Suppose I'm 19 M, and moderately above average masculinity

Also, worth saying, I'm fat-ish (30 BMI), but trying to lose it.

>>6875567
yes
the 'transition after 18 = hon forever' meme is just that, a meme

>>6877470
there is truth in every meme

>6'2"

Also take it from me. Muscle loss is mostly a meme. Yes you will lose muscle. No you will never have the muscle:fat:bone ratio women have. You will always look bulky and muscular compared to women (cause you are)

19 is a good age, your can still get nice hips just do itttttttt

>tfw no 6'2 broad shoulder gf
>tfw cant look upwards while we kiss
>tfw no gf to cuddle and smell after she goes to the gym

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>>6875567
>tfw 5'11'', 130 lbs and thinspo and still can't pass a femboi

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>>6877972
>thinspo
if you don't look andro you aren't thinspo yet
get good

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>>6877986
can i look like this (minus the facial hair) and still become a lil femboy

that's my only real issue

>>6877962
I am doing it (and yes, I got a bit of hips :D ), but I'm 8 months in with only moderate progress (not sure how much, because BDD; I've got a straight bf somehow, but I keep changing my mind between whether my ribcage is BIG or proportionally almost girly; this is tricky to figure out because of fat)

>>6877470
>>6877488
It all depends on your preexisting masculinity, hence me asking.

>>6877908
I'll always be and look bulky compared to cis women, and I might always look muscular compared to them, but I'm too physically inactive to retain much muscle.

>>6875586
Lose the weight and you'll be good. I thought i had zero progress at the year mark, because I was still fat. I was pleasantly surprised at how fem i actually looked once i dropped the weight.

>>6878727
That's what I hope will happen, but is this really the case every time? Is there some way I can figure out if I'll look reasonably fem/androgynous after I drop the weight?

Also, worth saying, my dream is basically to slide into an andro look (I wouldn't have anything against something more feminine, but my dysphoria is 100% satisfied by androgyny and bigger changes seem more disruptive) without changing my presentation that much, but I'm assuming that's basically impossible? Or?

>>6878000
Pretty sure FFS is the only solution. Do what I did and be born into a rich family.

>>6875567
>above average masculinity
>6'2
lol maybe in your dreams

>>6879654
Worth saying that women are two inches taller in my country than in America.

>>6879660
so what, like 5'7? you're 6'2 buddy lol

>>6879663
Right, but at the same time, I find androgyny to be enough for me, so that makes it easier.

>>6879654
Also I guess it's more correct to say that I *was*, rather than *am*, above average masculinity; e.g., at this point my hips are significantly bigger than my ribcage.