Does circumcision play a psychological role in creating the problem

>>6854119
Circumcision is a fucked up, backwards tribal practice where babies have a piece of their body clipped off like fucking puppy dogs' tails.

That being said, it has nothing to do with weird fetishes like AGP, sissification and so many others. That shit just happens.

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>>6854119
>tfw femboy
>tfw maimed near sensation less dick
Welp

Is that hato btw?

>>6854119
*creating a submissive

>>6854143
Not always. I was circumcised when I was 12 for medical reasons. I live in a country where no one is going through circumcision for no reason.

>>6854119
But OP, I'm uncut and AGP as fuck.

>>6854212
If there's a legitimate medical reason of course it makes sense to do it.

>>6854312
What reason? Most of the EU says its harmful and causes irreversible nerve damage

>>6854342
>What reason?
I can't possibly know what the other Anon's medical issues were when he was 12. Maybe his foreskin was two sizes too small.

>>6854390
>stretching practices don't real

>>6854342
It is harmful and does cause irreversible nerve damage, but if you got, say, cancer on the foreskin, you cut your losses and take it off.

Stretching exercises also don't work for everyone and there are many other shitty circumstances in which circumcision will be your best bet.

Most of the EU says it's harmful and causes irreversible nerve damage and that's why it should never be done to infants. Particularly not if you're going to cut it off and suck it out with your mouth like a jew: not only is it disgusting, but it increases the risk of DEATH by a huge lot.

Oh yeah and there's that, too, if you circumcise infants there's a risk of death.

I have this exact fucking thought holy shit
Can it really be a coincidence that my dysphoria started ramping up significantly around the time I realized that circumcision was a real thing and that I got really fucked over with it?

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>>6854917
>cut your losses

>>6854143

>That being said, it has nothing to do with weird fetishes like AGP, sissification and so many others. That shit just happens.

Nothing "just happens". Everything happens for a reason, and you can't know that circumcision doesn't factor into stuff like this.

It's basically unknown. There isn't data on it.

>>6854917

If stretching exercises don't work to treat phimosis there are other options way less radical than complete circumcision.

Preputioplasty is a thing (actually it's a whole class of operations because there are different preputioplasty techniques).

>>6856433

It might not be a coincidence.

Since girls are protected from genital mutilation (and even non-mutilating forms of genital cutting like pinpricks) in western culture, maybe you subconsciously felt envious of the relative safety women in the west have from this form of violence.

We can't know with absolute, 100% certainty that that's the case, but the epistemic possibility exists.

>>6854218

Well, simply because it isn't the cause of your AGP doesn't mean it's never the cause for anyone else's.

>>6856985
It's more to do with implied castration or the implication that male genitalia is inferior to female genitals.The castrated man is just a cheap emulation of a female, thus it would make sense that they would further that emulation in the most grotesque, in an attempt to appease the women that supposedly attempting to make them in their image.

>>6856985
Wouldn't be surprised. Circumcision wasn't even really a big thing in the US until after we were kikeified around WW2.

>>6857029

This is also a possibility.

You reminded me of how in some cultures that do even more severe forms of male genital mutilation like subincision, after the procedure, the men of the tribe fuck the boy's open wound as if it were a vagina.

>>6857054

Well, it did get more common around that time but in some areas it was still fairly common a little before then. But you're right in the sense that the majority of American males weren't cut until roughly around the WWII era.

Here are some estimates for the circumcision rates in the Northeast of the US during the early-to-mid 20th century and a little before.

http://www.noharmm.org/docswords.htm

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>>6854155
No, that's spotted flower manga (same creator).

Basically parallel universe madarame and his highschool sweetheart (that blonde girl he had a crush on, I always forget her name).

Anyways it's a very short but comfy manga, basically young married couple with their first kid on the way and they blush a lot due to pregnancy and stuff.

That also makes me sad as fuck because I will never have babies myself.

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>>6857195
Hato is there too, thought it was a sequel

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>>6857900
Well it's technically them but at same time not since they don't even have the same names, that's why the series is some kind of parallel world genshiken.

Also didn't the first spotted flower manga arrived while genshiken was still going strong (before all the hato trap stuff)?

bump for more discussion

>>6854119
No. There are a record number of trans people in Northern Europe and we don't circumcise kids here. The US and Canada are among the few countries who do. It's a cultural thing, exposing people to the idea that to be a certain way you have to have a different body, treating kids so differently based on their genitalia, so they grow up with a complex.

friendly remeinder you were kiked out of EVER getting decent SRS surgery!! thank your parents and the jews for that one!

>>6867111
>decent SRS surgery
no such thing, unless the stem cell stuff takes off soon

>>6854390
>foreskin was two sizes too smal
I know that feel ;;-; 8 inch cock and I had to break it to use it

>>6867055
Not so common in canada (all the canadian trans I know are intact), but almost universal among American trans women ( I only know of two trans women born in the continental US that are intact, one of them auto-circumcised cause she wanted to "normal" and the other is me)

>>6868477
>auto-circumcised
whats that?

>>6868477
>tfw you're a circumcised canadian trans girl
it really fucked me up, and ended up all misshapen because I think the "surgeon" botched it. At least I've made my mom feel somewhat bad for doing it, I really hope it doesn't affect my chances of good srs

>>6868493
>At least I've made my mom feel somewhat bad for doing it
Woah, that's messed up, You can't really blame them who knows maybe if it didnt happpen you wouldnt feel normal like the rest.

>>6868499
I think it's a bit more messed up to literally scar your kid for life for no reason.

>who knows maybe if it didnt happpen you wouldnt feel normal like the rest
what do you mean by that? every single guy I've been with has been intact, and it sure didn't make me feel normal having a gross mutilated tumor I was embarrassed and disgusted by.
I think OP's theory does have some credence to it, as when I was a kid I figured no girl would ever want to go near my mutilated penis, and that I wasn't man enough. It'd be a lie to say that being mutilated didn't lend to how disgusted and ashamed of my body I've been throughout my life.

>>6868487
When someone retracts their own foreskin from a young age (before it has even been supposed to have been retracted, which is usually around 8-10) and keeps it that way long enough that it no longer returns to its natural state. Its pretty fucked up shit.

>>6868539
you sound spiteful as fuck and it was ignorance its not like she has your four-skin in a lock box.

>>6868539
>mutilated tumor
Holy fuck like 90% of pornstars are cut relax

its ok

>>6868557
>it's ok to mutilate kids because porn stars are also mutilated

>>6868557
as I said in my first post, my circumcision was botched, don't try to tell me how I should feel about it.

>>6868552
It doesn't take very good judgement to realize that mutilating your kid at birth isn't the right thing to do. She even kept the receipt, 16 years later for laughs. I think I have the right to feel spiteful for something that messed me up.

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>>6868576
It's being a teenager is hard for everyone, one day you will maybe grow up and realize that their bigger stuff that needs your attention, But i gotta say I'm not for cutting I think it needs to stop to really much a reason to it.

>>6868571
Just trying to make you feel better you psycho

>>6868586
wow, kys "m8"

>>6868586
I'm no longer a teenager, and I'm sure you'd feel differently about this if your genitals were disfigured beyond use. But I guess only teenagers have sex, right?

>>6868592
It's not something you can do anything about spouting shit to make other feel like shit is just fucking retarded.

>>6868589
somehow i'm the psycho for thinking child abuse is abuse, and abuse is not cool? what kind of world do you live in?

>>6868595
english? if anyone is spouting shit here it's you.

>>6868601
still crying

>>6868600
>child abuse
>Circumcised
That really spits in the faces of anyone that really was abused as a kid.

>>6868633
you mean by having their genitals mutilated against their will?

There is evidence showing that circumcision doesn't reduce sensitivity.

Yes I'm circumcised.

>>6868904
Thank you Dr. Goldstein for your contribution to the thread.

>>6868910
I'm an atheist (American).

I view uncut dicks and foreign and un-American.

I've studied this issue, I can list several sources from the CDC, WHO, UN, etc. that show the medical benefits and HIV reduction from circumcision.

>>6868547
Not that fucked up. That's just keeping it peeled back. Very reversible and nothing is lost.
>>6868576
If she keeps the receipt for laughs then that's kind of a fucked up way to mock you for it.

>>6868916
I view circumcision as a beneficial procedure, but it should absolutely be up for the adult owner of their genitals to decide if it needs trimming, whether they're male or female makes no difference. There are benefits to labiaplasty and hoodectomies too but we don't do that shit at birth. It's a plastic surgery at the end of the day. Labiaplasties and hoodectomies can increase vaginal sensitivity and sexual pleasure and make it easier to clean, but it should not be forced on infant girls.

Infant foreskins sold as commodities
https://archive.today/T1qRz

Why FGM and MGM are comparable
http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2014/02/female-genital-mutilation-and-male-circumcision-time-to-confront-the-double-standard/

The exaggeration of the benefits of circumcision in regards to HIV/AIDS transmission
http://jme.bmj.com/content/36/12/798.abstract

There is no case for the widespread implementation of circumcision as a preventative measure to stop transmission of AIDS/HIV
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1753-6405.2011.00761.x/full

Circumcision does not prevent HIV infection
http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcision.org/info/HIVStatement.html

Circumcision does not prevent HIV infection #2
http://blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk/2012/05/when-bad-science-kills-or-how-to-spread-aids/

Circumcision decreases penile sensitivity
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23374102?dopt=Abstract

Circumcision decreases sexual pleasure
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17155977

Circumcision decreases efficiency of nerve response in the glans of the penis
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17378847

Circumcision has negligible benefit
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9091693

Circumcision results in significant loss of erogenous tissue
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8800902

Neonatal circumcision linked to pain and trauma
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9057731

Circumcision linked to psychological trauma
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/goldman1/

Circumcision linked to pain, trauma, and psychosexual sequelae
http://www.cirp.org/library/psych/boyle6/

Circumcision does not prevent STDs
http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282%2813%2902094-3/fulltext

Circumcision associated with frequent orgasm difficulties in men and a range of frequent sexual difficulties in women
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/5/1367

Female circumcision found to lower risk of HIV
http://mondofown blog spot dot fr/2012/06/female-circumcision-health-benefits.html

>>6868633
I was abused as a kid, sexually, and I think circumcision is child abuse.