>you were born almost in time when transgender people are

>>6830856
should have taken hormones earlier, they stunt your growth

>>6830856
you have only you'reself to blame. why didn't you just self med when you were young?

ah yes, because self medding pre-puberty was so well publicised as an option and would be so affordable on pockey money wages, and certainly wouldn't result in me getting btfo by my christfag conservative family

>>6830929
this tbqh fäm

idk kill yourself i guess? i mean that's what i would of done if i didn't get on htr before puberty

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>>6830856
Oh look it's this thread again.
>sucks to suck senpai

Cut your legs off and you'll be real tiny

People born before about 1997 really do have just cause to be upset at the situation of trans acceptance.

I graduated High School in 2013. During my studies, I was briefly harrassed for not believing that transpeople should be thrown into mental hospitals. A friend who was gay was bullied to the point where he dropped out.
I recently revisited the school to help with University pathway stuff (although the students were cancer when I went, I was doing it as a favour to a teacher). Across the four classes I visited, there were two transgirls and a transguy. How did I know? It was actually pointed out to me (two of them passed otherwise). Everyone seemed proud of their three little snowflakes. I very quickly stuck to the work at hand, avoiding the subject at all costs.

Just imagine that though. Only three years saw a complete change in peoples attitudes. From something to internalise and cause self-conflict, to something that people would be proud enough to stand out about.

Still. There is little use being bitter about it. It won't fix anything.
I'm going to tie up the loose ends, and probably hero at the turn of the decade.
We've lost the game, but at least we can say that we came close and put up a good fight.

>>6831281
>before: a small handful of closeted trannies
>now: special snowflake transfer sees everywhere
Not sure it's an improvement. Let's see in a few years when the fad dies down and the transtrenders detransition (to enjoy their impotence and man-boobs)

>>6831281
You think that's bad? I was born in late 1990. Graduated high school in 2008. FML.

If you googled trans shit when I was a teenager in the 2000s, only the weird hon AGP websites like Susan's and Laura's Playground would pop up. Another source of trans exposure back then was the "Is it a man?" segments on shows like Jerry Springer. The trans communities on Reddit and 4chan didn't exist back then. I mean, 4chan existed to raid pools in Habbo, but there was no /lgbt/.

So back into the closet I went. I finally ended up starting HRT at 25, and I'm 26 now. I got super fucking lucky with my transition in many ways, and after my FFS in November I am confident I will pass, but I'm still upset that I wasted so many of my good years in misery. I can't even imagine how upset those who can't pass anymore because puberty hit them too hard must be.

I can't help but laugh when I see fucking 16 year olds on Reddit throwing a fit about how hard it is, "My parents are having trouble with my pronouns and it's so upsetting!". Hah, when I was 16 you'd be sent to fucking conversion therapy, and that's if you even knew to transition in the first place, because you'd probably be kept in the closet due to the reason I described at the beginning of this post.

I'm not even fucking old. I still have a huge chunk, nearly half, of my 20s left, but I feel ancient compared to my trans sisters who are only 4-5 years younger than me because of how quickly this shit has changed.

>>6830929
People born in the late 90s seem to be so fucking confused and ignorant about how much trans acceptance and access to transition information has changed in such a small period of time.

>>6831992
Preach sister. Born 4 years later than you, (ironically i started 4 years earlier than you too... coindence?) and it wasnt much better for me.

Didnt even have internet back then to google for this stuff and when i did Susans scared me into trying to forget about the whole thing.

>>6831992

Born one year earlier, started the same time. No surgeries yet, sending comfy feels for the cute gods to bless us both.

>>6831992
another 1990fag here
i can't even believe how exponentially better my life would have been if i were born 5 years later. 10? well fuck i might have had a shot at being happy. now i just want to die
i don't belong here anymore but there's nowhere else to go

>>6831992
Also a 1990fag. Can confirm googling trans stuff in 2007-2008 resulted in websites that were 90% pink and 10% purple. It took a lot of digging to find anything useful. My first realization transsexual people actually existed is when I encountered linetrap porn on /b/.

Is this some kind of forced meme?

>>6830907
Not OP, but I didn't even know transsexuality was a real thing until I was 17 and went to therapy. I walked in, and by the second appointment, she opened up the DSM and asked me a few questions. When the questions were over she just handed me the book, opened to the pages on Gender Dysphoria, and told me to read a little bit. Rest of the session was spent having the idea of it explained to me. I'd always wanted to be a girl, but I just didn't know there was a way or a reason for my feelings until that afternoon.

>>6830856
>you were born into a time where trans people are accepted
>in one of the most LGBT friendly cities
>to the only anti-lgbt conservative in probably the whole county
god hates me

>>6831992

1990/2008 in the house, fucking preach! FtM so I'm kinda lucky as far as hope for passing goes, being set back isn't as big a deal, but I didn't even know people like me fucking existed, just MtF fetishist hons and linetrap (god bless linetrap tho. Even though she's MtF and a then-exhibitionist now-pornstar, she still awakened something in me and it was great to see someone young and normal looking doing something like that).

It's fucking unreal how fast this shit has turned around. I went to a pretty progressive school, homophobia was explicitly not tolerated. But it absolutely had to be hammered in that it wouldn't be tolerated for kids to avoid doing it, and the social climate was still such that the freaking 10 or so queers in my grade didn't manage to come out until our final year or later.
Gay people were never talked about, just hushedly and uncomfortably referred to with a covert limp wrist signal like they were the most scary, scandalous thing in the world ("My dad has a friend who's, yknow, -wristflick-").

And it was a fucking secular, arts-leaning school. It's unbelievable how fast things have changed. Even the year we were graduating, we looked at the kids who were younger than us and could see a decent crop of queermos happily prancing about without any fear at like 15 years old, which in my day was "way too young to possibly know, they shouldn't act on it or they'll regret it."

Shout out to my elders who no doubt had it even worse. I know at my school, there was at least one gay suicide in one of the above years.
(And just look how gay-focused these memories are, that's all anyone knew about, trans. did. not. exist).

>>6831992
>>6835388
>tfw born in early 1991/graduated in '09
>tfw lived my entire life in the bible belt
>tfw had to repress for years because I had to be manly
>tfw never experienced love or dating because I like men
>tfw less than ten years after graduating there is a MTF student going to my old school that is accepted by practically everyone

This is the part where I'm supposed to have some kind of quip, but... I don't. I have nothing more to add other than how jealous I am.

Here's to suicide before 30, I guess.

>>6835388
I'm the anon you replied to.

First of all, your description of the atmosphere of the late 00's for LGBT people was spot on. In regards to trans stuff, that last sentence is the crux of the problem. Teens today can look up to people like Jazz Jennings as role models of the life they can live, and unless they have super shitty parents, can easily begin transition young. I post on Reddit and there's always a constant stream of 13/14 year olds. It kills me.

Now the younger ones who were born, say, post 1995 like to label people like me as "AGP" because I didn't start transition until my mid 20's. They absolutely seem to be clueless on how quickly things changed. They do not seem to understand that, like you said, when we were teens, trans did not exist. Like, at all. You knew you had these feelings. You knew you should have been born a boy, born a girl, whatever. You would watch as your body went through puberty in absolute fucking horror. Getting on Lupron at fucking 14 was not a thing back then. By the time trans visibility started to skyrocket I assumed it was already too late for me, so I repressed further. Finally broke in my mid 20s.

And yet, despite how fucked it was for us, we have it fucking easy compared to people born earlier than us. Because at least those of us with a combination of huge luck with genetics and strong financial resources can still turn out completely fine. Those born in the 80's, 70's, etc. were fucked from the start.

When I see these dumbfucks making comments on here like, "if you haven't transitioned before 16 you're not really trans" and stuff like that, I want to punch them through the screen. They still act like they've had it so hard, when all they had to do was DIY with the information they found on 4chan and Reddit or go to an informed consent clinic. Transition was handed to them on a silver platter.

>>6834666
I would've transitioned sooner if /lgbt/ had been created sooner LOL

>>6835474
we need to sue moot for ruining our lives by failing to create this board earlier

>>6831992
Are you me?

Another reporting in I suppose. 1990/2008 and about to be 26. I've given up trying to pass, only after 10 months of transition.

I just.

I had no idea this was an option. I didn't even know HRT existed.

I'm holding out hope that in my 30s I'll look alright. But I don't expect to get to enjoy being beautiful anytime in my 20s. That's alright, I've always admired older women more.

>>6835524
lol this

>>6835639
i was almost you but i'm 2009
we started hormones around the same time. when did you give up?

>tfw
this thread is causing a lot of relatable feels

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>born 1994
>tfw this living death could have been avoided if you'd been born five years later

>used to wish I'd been born my desired sex
>now just wish I'd been born late enough that not being born my desired sex wouldn't matter as much
Even my pipe dreams are settling

1993/2012 unlucky if i was born a few years later i wouldve been fine havent even started to transition yet scared ill look like a man or just kms from embarrassment ehhh cest la vie

daily reminder that age is a meme
you can pass at any age as long as you're fem looking

>>6831106
Hej

>>6836385
Can confirm. I'm 25 with 1 month HRT and I've been out for a year. I'm not pretty but I pass. I know this because I live in Southeast Texas and nobody has tried to accost or murder me.

I got lucky and managed to start hrt right when I turned 18 (5 months ago)
Got kicked out for it though, kek. Not a problem, my moms fucking insane(schizophrenia) anyways so I was looking for places already. I have to thank her for being poor, and probably smoking while pregnant because I'm short and underdeveloped as fuck. Now I'm pretty andro and have a boyfriend and plans for the future, so I guess I have it a lot better. I was pretty useless for a while after dropping out of high school though.
I thank 4chan for teaching me what the fuck HRT actually was. [spoiler]I personally think you're all doing good just by existing and spreading word about these things here. This site generally attracts depressed teenagers and young adults with various problems. Sort of altruistic in a way. It also isn't hugboxy and gross like tumblr and Reddit, teaches people not to be delusional about their appearance.[/spoiler]

>>6836385
I'm the 1990/2008 person everyone replied to.

Yes, I know. And I got super lucky considering I started at 25. 6 feet tall, but 31 underbust, wide hips, smallish hands and feet, small head. My transition is going great and I'll be getting FFS soon.

But, it still bothers me when I see 13/14 year olds posting on Reddit about starting high school as a girl. It fucking kills me. I had to keep that shit bottled up through no fault of my own, while they get to be who they are in fucking high school, college, the works. I lost so much time and it's so upsetting. And like I said, this alone kills me, but just think: there's people my age that were wrecked by puberty and are completely fucked. I feel SO SO sorry for those people. I can't even imagine.

>>6836479
Yeah, be thankful that /lgbt/ and Reddit existed at all when you were/are a teen. Those of us in this thread who aren't even that much older than you (mid 20's) only had Susan's, Laura's Playground, and all the other weird hon websites when we were teens. Nothing will put a trans teen back into the closet faster than fucking Susan's.

>>6836613
lmao ^^^^^

>>6836613
I'm almost 24 and reddit existed and there were trans discussions on there when I was in hs.

>>6836640
really? im 23 and when i was in hs i swear i never saw any of it to be fair didnt know how to search through all of reddit or even use reddit at all at that time

>>6836640
was retarded when it came to computer related things back then

>>6836640
Does anyone know the exact date the common boards like asktransgender and transtimelines came online? The first time I found them I was in college, and I assumed I was too far gone at that point (was I wrong...) so I repressed some more until I finally began transition. If those boards existed in middle school when I first started trying to find this shit my life would have been so different.

>>6836653
So many kids nowadays are idiots when it comes to computers, so in the same place you guys were. Youtube was pretty big in the mid to late 2000s and there was a lot of trans content on there too. It's not as simple as if you'd been born a few years later you'd have gotten everything handed to you.

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>>6831992
>tfw 1990fag who is also AGP and NEET
feels pretty bad

>>6836656
I encountered 420chan/cd/ in 2009 (it might have been up a little bit earlier than that). Not sure about reddit stuff.

>>6831281
>tfw born in 1997 and will never transition and kill myself

^_^

>>6831281
I was born in 1997 and experienced trans-positive tumblr growing up and was still in denial for years and also scared of my christfag parents so just fuck my whole life up senpai

>>6831992
This is my experience exactly
Add the religious bigotry and bam
I really wonder how people learned about hormones and transitioning before the internet

>>6835474
>>6835524
I used to trip on /fa/ and I talked about wanting to be a girl, someone there directed me to /cd/ which was basically a life saver even though I couldn't get on hrt until 4 years later because
>LIFE
that was 2009

>>6836656
/cd/ had them in 2008/2009
Can't speak for Reddit but /cd/ has been around and was a tranny board as early as 2007-2008 iirc

>>6831992
>"born in late 1990"
>"I'm 26 now"
That's not possible, anon. You were born in the early 1990s if you are 26 now.

>>6837307
I think anon meant late in the year 1990

>>6837276
You got lucky and wound up with a shrink who wanted to help you, not lock you in an asylum and lose the key.

Too bad those don't exist anymore.

>>6837307
There's still three months left in 2016, mate.

>>6837307
I was born at the end of August 1990, I just turned 26. The majority of the students in my graduating class were born in early 1990/late 1989, and I was one of the youngest in my class. I always described my birthday as late 1990 for this reason.

This is an off-topic discussion on semantics though and is pointless.

>>6830856
You're acting like every single family or social group suddenly did a 180 and 100% supports trannies now.
You realize that trannies still do, and will continue to, face numerous obstacles towards starting early and passing. Not to mention the fact that many are too masculine to even pass early.
Case in point, I'm 20, live with my family, and still forced to take hormones in secret because they still treat my transgenderism as a "phase" or "stupid idea".

>>6837380
Because I searched for a shrink who dealt specifically with transgender issues and was supportive

>born in 1997
>trans acceptance is now a thing
>doesn't matter because I'm from a third world country and nothing has changed

You guys don't even know how much I wanna kill myself right now. Just appreciate the fact that you CAN transition

>>6838314
that is unfortunate

>>6834899
What did you go to therapy for? I was 22 and only found out from the net.

>>6837299
oh cool so I could have first learned when I was 17 and already fucked even if i started instantly....

>>6838075
who cares if you have to do it in secret? that's what we have to do except 5 years later in development

>>6838314
Where are you from?

>no internet until late high school
i literally would have been fine had i never had internet, because dysphoria only became a problem when transitioning actually became a real thing in my mind

>>6838314
What country anon?

>>6838566

Hahaha I was born in the early 80s and I can agree. Although I experienced dysphoria and AGP, shit was easier to repress or ignore when transgenderism wasn't talked about, and gender non conformity was social suicide. Even high speed internet wasn't enough, its the modern trans movement that finally did me in. Going from being an alt-right trans hater who laughs at hons and reads gendertrender for the lolz, to being trans myself and pondering transition is a very odd path.

>>6838566
>>6838741

One of the early 90s fags and I kinda agree. Before I knew about transitioning, it was just like "man, I really wish I'd been born the opposite sex. But obviously there's nothing I can do about that, might as well wish to have been born in the year 3000, so oh well, okay.jpg."
The reality that this is something I could actually do, but something that would take so much risk, has really unsettled me.

So in that respect, I can sort of sympathise with today's trans teenagers who get all dramatic about not being able to do something that was never even an option for me at their age, because they're actually aware that they're being denied an opportunity. I think puberty would have been even harder to accept if I'd known there was a way to prevent it.
Like bleeding out when you're surrounded by people who could help you, but won't.

>>6838566
>dysphoria only became a problem when transitioning actually became a real thing in my mind
This.

I was happier when transitioning was imaginary, like becoming a cosmonaut.

Born in the 80s, parents like to kill tranny children

>>6830856
Isn't 6 foot tall not very tall in a lot of the world?

When I visited the US even girls were taller than me and i'm 6 foot.

>>6841498
I'm 5'8'' and I feel monstrously tall next to some of my cis female friends.

>>6841498
it depends whos foot you measure with

>>6841527
Maybe it depends on the part of the country.

>>6841531
This is why you need to change to the superior measurement system.

>>6841540
metric is shit

yurop is shit

fuck off

>>6841750
99% OF THE WORLD FAMALAM.

>>6841762
yeah and 99% of the world hasn't been to the moon

>>6841765
I'm sure 99% of the world HAS been in your mum lmfao

>>6835443
>And yet, despite how fucked it was for us, we have it fucking easy compared to people born earlier than us. Because at least those of us with a combination of huge luck with genetics and strong financial resources can still turn out completely fine. Those born in the 80's, 70's, etc. were fucked from the start.
As a MtF born in 1984, I honestly appreciate you saying that. Couldn't even begin to approach the concept until my mid 20s, couldn't truly undo my internal mindfuck until my late 20s. I'm just glad I'm not quite as fucked as some (5ft8in, light skin and dark hair, round-ish face), and I'll do the best I can with what I have to work with. If nothing else, high velocity metal aspirin is always on the table if need be.
It's nice to get the mention. Thanks.

>>6835443
>I post on reddit

>>6834990
are you me?
>born in seattle, lived in suburban puget sound metro area my whole life
>parents still managed to pound it into my subconscious that gays and trannies are gross and men cannot become women, because it goes against god, and it's gross

>>6842261
Everybody knows all you 4cucks post on reddit, and facebook, and dankbook, and dankchan. You're the exact kind of trash that can't go 10 seconds without 10 different tabs of each of those all day long. It's why reddit and facebook and all those other chans and books are full of passive-aggressive childish Christianity just like it is here.

>>6835941
I think I truly gave up hope in the last month or two. Was in doubt from the start. Nothing can save me from my manface and 6'3" lighthouse height. I don't even have wide shoulders and I've got a little hips but it doesn't matter. The height and the face will do me in within 5 minutes, despite all of the carefully controlled body language and voice.

It's honestly easier to just cover everything up and not worry about it. At least I somehow pass 10% of the time like that.

>>6845643
>don't have wide shoulders and narrow hips
>already passing >0%
>ffs
>learn a tall sport

>>6831811
Provided they didn't destroy their balls, the only real souvenirs of their adventure should be manboobs and decreased balding.

>>6838566
Haha yeah

Finding out your fantasy IS real, but will be denied to you because your parents don't believe in it

fuck

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>>6838542
>>6838627
I'd rather not say for personal reasons but lemme put it this way : I've never met, seen or even heard of a transgender person in my entire country. I have to do an extensive google search just to find even one, and they're a ftm.
>>6838330
Yeah

Yeah, its so...irritating to say the least!
Like, I graduated high school four years ago and its so weird to be giving the "back in my days" speech, but honestly, there really weren't any resources ten years ago. The only websites available then were shit like Susans and Lauras (shudder!); it wasn't impossible to transition then, but it definitely seemed more dismal and out of reach than it is now.

I mean, I'm happy for trans kids nowadays, but damn does it suck knowing that I missed out on avoiding hon status, by like, five measly fucking years!