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back when tv was comfy edition

▶Trans Info Dump: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit?usp=sharing
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▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

old: >>6813909
bonus: anon has a point: >>6815400
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nim is the new grace
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What's with all these early threads?
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e a r l y
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>>6815424
grace is dead
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>>6815425
really its a good idea to make them a little early so there aren't multiple newthreads
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Honest question: Why don't we rename this these generals the Tranny Circlejerk thread or Tranny Social thread?

It's purely for talking about day to day shit that's completely mundane and rarely about trans stuff. The MTF general label is misleading, especially the contents of the OP post.

It gives the impression that you'll get advice here but normally you just get bitchiness and it's a massive circlejerk of the same popular trannies.

Pic very related
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>get up
>try to look not like a guy
>look a lot like a guy

Why live?
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>>6815434
hugg anon
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such a rush
to do nothing at all
such a fuss
to do nothing at all
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>>6815435
Aren't you
Going in the navy soon?
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>>6815435
>ywn hold hands with pally

:(
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Morning anons.
>>6815434
What do you want to talk about anon?
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>>6815434
Nice repost nobody cares

>>6815435
H-hi Pally
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Hi everyone.
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>>6815438
Not for 6 months. I joined but boot camp is still a long way away.
>>6815443
Try not to get banned...
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>>6815444
Long time no see

Sup
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>>6815448
Damn
I just can't wait to see that cute buzz cut
Of yours
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>>6815440
I feel like I should repress and stay a cute boy...
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>>6815443

Some people care actually, but thanks for the input.

>>6815441

Nothing. I just want a genuine answer. These places are a shithole and should not be called a general.

>>6815436

Hug hug

>>6815452

Jesus fuck
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>>6815438
lol rip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZwuTI-V8SI
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>>6815452
I still think you're a cute girl...
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>more than 6 months
>I still didn't get my hairs back
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>>6815452
>I feel like I should repress and stay a cute boy...
same tho
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>wear girly as fuck outfit
>have hair did
>some makeup
>still gendered male

When will this ride derail?
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>>6815457
I think it's funny. Everyone I went to school bragged about going into the army and looked down on me for keeping out of it.
Now, they come back mentally scarred and suicidal, and I'm supposed to act like they are somehow victims.

It's a confusing world.
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>tfw you hate ftms and cis women
>tfw you don't hate men and trannies
what's wrong with me?
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>>6815443
Cookie time!

>>6815438
Is it true the navy is gay af?

>>6815434
>Mtf general
>Is angered that the topics aren't specific and directed at particular stuff.
>G E N E R A L
>Tfw
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>>6815432
But then everyone will make them early in an attempt to be first and threads will just end up earlier and earlier.
>>6815435
>look like that pre-HRT
C'mon you're on the easiest mode here.
>>6815452
I see the hair makes a lot of difference. Still on easy mode genetics.
>>6815463
>girly as fuck outfits
Why do trannies do this? 99% of cis women just wear jeans, flats and a T-shirt
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>>6815470
>hate ftms
>dont hate trannies
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>>6815476
like mtfs
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>>6815452
>Posting pics with Australia filter.
Why?
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>>6815480
that's not an australian filter
THIS is an australia filter
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The nightmare ends on 9/9 anyways
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>>6815457
USA BTFO
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tfw didn't lose any weight this week

I shouldnt of had that cheat day
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Hello thread.
I didn't clean my room or listen to tool, but I did went out and researched some hospitals to see where I could get my blood tested.
And if it isn't the hardest thing to do...
At one place they basically said that if I didn't have a document requiring a health examination (from a school or a company where I would be working) I couldn't even take the examination, and I couldn't get a blood test even if I tried to say I'd pay without the insurance.

Another place just said I could get a normal health examination:
weight, height, blood pressure, urine sample, chest x rays, and a simple blood exam (cholesterol, liver, etc)
But that hormones weren't possible to test.
Also there was an option to get a breast cancer examination but I was denied it when I requested it "because it's only for women". Since when are men immune to breast cancer, Jesus.

And I biked like a total of 25 km just to find out all of this.
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>>6815480
>Australia filter
Top kek
>>6815470
>>6815476
I think I don't like cis women, haven't spoken to one for years. This is not good because obviously I'm supposed to be assimilating with them.
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Im going to bed.
You're all beautiful and I adore you all.
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>>6815472
What kind of cookies? :o

>>6815479
Prolly vag envy.
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>>6815450
Not much. Just got done shaving and I feel like a dolphin.
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So I'm biding my time until my second name change
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>>6815487
i'm sorry, ellie
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>>6815486
Hi Snicker <3
How are you? :3
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>>6815480
Heh
>>6815491
Thanks! Good night :3 sweet dreams anon
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FIRST
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>>6815480
When phone posting I'm too lazy generally to reorient my pictures because I have to open them and resave them.
>>6815487
That sucks. What country are you in?
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>>6815493
The feeling of being freshly shaven is why I wake up in the mornings. It's so GOOD
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>>6815497
starving myself
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>>6815503
Guess you're just growing your hair out until it all comes off
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>>6815487
>Also there was an option to get a breast cancer examination but I was denied it when I requested it "because it's only for women".
Do they know that you are on estrogen?
>>6815504
It's normal to hate women when you're in repression.
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>>6815489
Cis women are fine, just have to find the ones that aren't going to be threatened by you being trans or whatever.
Cis men gave treated me fine as a trans guy. Prob because I'm not a threat at all bc weak beta male.
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>>6815506
why? D:
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>>6815507
I always have grown my hair out. Took me two years too get this much hair.
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>>6815511
I wish a cis man/woman would beat me
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>>6815512
I have been consistently losing three pounds a week
but this week I didn't lose any
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>>6815515
It'll be gone in seconds :3
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>>6815518
please be careful :c
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>tfw close shave boosts your confidence
I can't wait to get my second paycheck so I can blow it on 3 weeks of electrolysis
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>>6815495
Don't worry doodles :B
Or snickers?
I'm pretty zen about it. Information is information. I know more than I did yesterday, and also I know the price range of the normal blood test at least.

I'm just really tired physically since my biking form isn't the best. Also a bit flabbergasted by the Japanese medical bureocracy.
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>>6815521
I'm not doing anything dangerous
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>>6815525
still :c
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>>6815517
Why thou?

>>6815519
How would that stop them from treating me like shit if they wanted to?
Also stop posting my age on here
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i hate my dynamic ip
i got a banned ip now so ill have to post from my pc
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>>6815524
most people say snickers I guess
but it doesn't matter
I recall one anon who would call me doodles

and that's a good attitude to have
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>>6815503
Japan.
It's not surprising when you think about it. Japanese do love themselves some bureocracy if documents. If I only had documents letting me cruise easily through HRT...
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>>6815492
I knew a guy who I think had vag envy.

In high school, he flushed powdered concrete down every normal sit-down toilet in the two plumbed school buildings over the course of a day.
They were all taken out of service for almost a week.

He would go on mini-rants about how women are the cause of the world's suffering and shit and about how he wanted to punch pregnant women and stuff. I let him hang around me briefly because I felt sorry for him.

I used to see him all the time, but after that stunt I literally never saw him again.

I'll have to ask around, because I never really heard what happened to him.
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>>6815526
dw dw
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>>6815518
Well you just didn't stick to your diet properly this week. Starvation will only make things worse, everyone always bounces back and ends up gaining weight.
>>6815532
Do you think Elliott Rodger was trans?
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>>6815527
Because I'm disgusting unpassable tranny
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>>6815508
No I didn't tell them I was trans. Also I'm not on estrogen yet, I was researching prices and I just wanted to make a standardized test cost to calculate my annual expenses on HRT, even if I don't have boobs now it doesn't hurt to check.
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>>6815529
PC is the best way to use 4chan though.
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>>6815533
people starving worries me :<
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>>6815529
I had that a couple weeks ago. Kinda sucked.
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I'm thinking of quitting hrt and going back to being masc
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>>6815473
>Why do trannies do this?
I think a lot of dresses flatter my figure and let me worry about my accessories instead of obsessively colour-matching my outfit.

But yeah, tight pants/jeans are great in their own way.
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>>6815534
>>6815539
fine
I just will starve myself today
and then go back to eating 1200 calories a day
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>>6815537
B-but i like laying in my bed and shitposting
also all my anime boy reaction pics
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>>6815544
okie, please be careful :<
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>>6815532
Probably in prison now

>>6815535
Are you on hrt? If you aren't wait until you can go on it. Then I'm sure you won't feel that way anymore, at least not all the time.
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>>6815492
Your favorite!
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>>6815473
>99% of cis women just wear jeans, flats and a T-shirt
Wearing a tank top or a sleeveless dress would probably be more flattering than a t-shirt, since I have broad(er) shoulders, but I do plan on the jeans+sneakers/flats look.

don't worry about angie, she's a hon.
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>>6815486
The idea of a cheat day is you get to cheat a little bit, not a whole lot. So, have an ice cream at a meal instead of pigging out for the day.

>>6815544
Just go back on the 1200/day. 3 lbs a week is a good sustainable rate.

>>6815532
I just flushed a cube of sodium metal coated in vaseline.
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>>6815549
Been on hrt and surgery
Still unpassable
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>>6815530
I did have my whole way back home to steam off, long ride on the bike to think about it and I decided being angry wasn't going to solve anything.

But my experiences today do raise a question I'll be asking later to my therapist/counselor. How does one even get tested for anything here?
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>>6815523
hey kay
how is your nice butt?
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>>6815545
doesn't holding the phone like that tire your arms out? it does for me
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>>6815549
Probably something no good, although I doubt it would be because of that.
Where I live, I presume he would have just been put through psychological testing and shit.

>>6815534
The magic of death is that we will never know.
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>>6815553
I was weak
I must temper myself
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>>6815536
The boob test is important, make sure they do it. Check your genes for future chances as well.
>>6815551
Yeah tank top is better.
>>6815553
>Not flushing francium
Do you even edge?
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>>6815489
>>6815500
>>6815503
:3

>>6815541
I've been considering this too. Do you think that getting on T will offset all the girly gains?
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>>6815558
thanks
Laser isn't permanent right? lmao
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>tfw will never pass without rhinoplasty at least.
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>>6815561
i lay on my side
super comfy
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>>6815566
most of them.
I'll have to do something about the tits tho
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>>6815532
thats an odd way to express your hatred of women
i'm likely to kill myself in front of the crowd at one of the local 'womens rallies' they do each year
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>>6815565
Well I'll make sure to try and find a clinic where they don't deny me access to the test. I think it was just a touch test, there were also mammographies but they were expensive.

>>6815566
:3
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>>6815557
well its still a butt
trying to make it transition to a full blown booty but I need to add weights to my squats and don't wanna risk building my upper body back in any way
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>>6815572
noooo don't do it, you are so qt
>>6815575
>tfw fat butt
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brb imma eat a bit
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>>6815572
143
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>>6815573
Really?
I don't want people to know why I'm killing myself.
I'll do it alone up north and probably not be found for at least a decade.
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>>6815566
>>6815572
Cool I'm detransing also
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>>6815531
I could see Japan being pretty hard to transition in. Do you pass/ how do people treat you?
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>>6815565
Also how do j check jeans?
I don't think a DNA test is possible considering I can't even get a hormones test.
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>>6815550
Yesssss <3 perfect. Needs some cream on them though if you know what I mean :^)
>>6815554
Post a pic?
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Misgendering is now a crime.
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fyi anyone claiming detransitioning is a liar
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>>6815592
what if you claim to never transition to begin with
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>>6815591
Why are hons being put in political positions?
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Mangos are best fruit.
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>mom comes into room
>puts books on desk
>i look at top one
>its an anti drug story
>tfw my mom thinks i'm on drugs
this comes after like a lecture yesterday about drugs not being cool

i'm not even on drugs
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>>6815588
Do it privately. I'm sure there's a way, Angelina Jolie did it.
>>6815574
>mammographies were too expensive
Land of the free, home of the brave.
>>6815601
I'm on drugs. It's the fate of every tranny.
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>>6815597
Because leftists are literally insane
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>>6815603
>its the fate of every tranny
oh... RIP .-.
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>>6815604
>tories
>leftists
top lol
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>>6815601
my dad thinks I am on drugs
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>>6815591
>transgender tory
>tfw thats my future
kill me now senpai
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>>6815584
Socially speaking it's kind of easy because no one will go out of their way to point you out. Once I saw an old man with heels walk into the convenience store I work in and nobody turned heads. If someone sneezes people are supposed to pretend it never happened. Etc.

My friends all say I'm pretty girly and I think I've passed a few times out of pure confusion over the complexion and shape of foreigners' faces, or so I guess. I don't think I pass when I look at the mirror.

One time I passed on full boy mode and I was completely confused as to how was that even possible.

However whenever bathrooms are involved I have to use the ones with the wheelchair symbol out of courtesy and I have no business getting into a thermal bath unless I want to go to the guys section or rent my own space for a short time.

I feel I get looks when girl mode outside, but I also get looks from being a foreigner so I never know.
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do you ever question your judgement /mtfg/
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>>6815589
I'm probably not even trans anyway pham so it'a all good

>>6815592
fyi kayla is a liar

>>6815583
cool

>>6815579
No. I'm not

>>6815581
143?
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>>6815591
fucking hons, always the hons with their horrid bullshit

>>6815596
in the clear I guess

>>6815597
>Why are hons being put in political positions?
because they always want everyone to know they're trans. Its why every news story about a tranny is always about a 35 and older hon.
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>>6815614
I hope you're not seriously considering joining the Conservative Party?
>>6815607
Yeah it's not good, I'm trying to get off the codeine, haven't taken any today so maybe I'll make it.
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>>6815584
Depends on where you live in Japan. This girl here makes bank off being trans

>>6815590
See >>6815218
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>>6815623
I already joined :^)
(Its kinda to throw a bone to my dad really, he's ultra-tory)
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>>6815564
You're learning. We all make mistakes.

>>6815565
lol Sodium was easy to get. The toilet geysers were fun, then the pipes burst.

>>6815583
eep! Those colors. gag.

>>6815588
Find a doc willing to go along with the tests you want. I just have to explain why to my doc.

>>6815601
lol My anti drug lecture came over a year after I got off heroin... I was just being very tired and groggy that week from working every weekend and going to school for a couple months straight.

>>6815588
Google "gene test breast cancer". Many docs can take the sample, and send it into a lab. Some states like NY make taking samples like that illegal by non medical personnel.
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>tfw you are trying to destroy any documentation of your existence
>tfw forging electoral exemption forms
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>>6815603
Both Angelina Jolie and the land of the free are things Japan doesn't have tho.

(I'm getting better at the captcha thing apparently.)
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>>6815630
Its all because I fall asleep sometimes during the day, like thats literally the only reason she thinks i'm on drugs
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>>6815601
>tfw at first mom called my hrt "cock killers"
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>>6815630
>Some states like NY
she's in japan...
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What is the most insane way to ruin your life?

I need to do something to prevent me from chickening out of suicide.
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>>6815641
Playing spoons
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>>6815591
Good. Harassment in the workplace shouldn't be tolerated.
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>>6815634
Who doesn't want a nap during the day?!
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>>6815511
If you were an alpha bro you be cooler
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>>6815641
I egged the receptionist at the headquarters of the Federal Police in my state.
They held me overnight, but deemed me unlikely to be trouble and let me go the next day after an apology.
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>>6815651
Ikr, but apparently its just drug addicts
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>>6815634
Have you been checked for orthostatic hypotension? Spiro can exacerbate it. On the flip side, I can fall asleep if I don't have enough to occupy my mind.

>>6815640
Countries can have those shitty rules too.

me >>6815630 >>6815553
To sleepy to notice my trip fell off...

>>6815651
Mid day naps are quite normal in some parts of the world.
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>>6815523
>Ywn motor boat Kayla
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>>6815660
Not on spiro or anything yet :3
Mainly its how warm my room is and i tend to try to sleep when i get upset/sad/dysphoric which seems to be fairly frequently now
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Watchin animes in public rn. :^]
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>>6815641
I tried to get myself hung for treason, but they wouldn't let me.

I basically stormed into parliament and declared war, for which my penalty should be death.
They laughed it off and let me go after an apology.

Although my declaration did get into the parliamentary record, which is a bit of an achievement.
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oki i got my daily 900 kcals
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>>6815553
Dwayne "the rock" Johnson eats like 5 pizzas for lunch on his cheat day
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>>6815661
id rather be titty fucked and on the upstroke kiss the head

>>6815641
>What is the most insane way to ruin your life?
transition
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>>6815671
lmao
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Beepbeep died in a fiery explosion. It's all over the news.. I am sorry everyone. Rip in piss
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>>6815672
900 is too few!!
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>>6815680
rip in pieces
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>>6815651
anyone between the age of 10 and 65.
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>>6815672
i've not eaten a meal in four days
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>>6815653
>>6815671
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Does HRT affect every cell in your body or just the ones where secondary sex characteristics are developed? Like, is a mtf transitioned spot on a leg any more feminine than a guys leg?
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>>6815680
I'll remember her fondly as the cutest gril in this gen
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>>6815671
i lol'd
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>>6815683
im tryingng to loose my flabbyness
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>>6815687
Hey fuck you I've wanted to nap several times and I'm in that age range
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>>6815695
Tfw I replied to your comment about my pic and didn't even get an answer

NICE
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>>6815630
sodium is easy to get, but potassium is way more satisfying

>>6815683
These are american girls starving themselves. They'll be fine.

>>6815687
>Tfw 20
I'm gonna nap after lunch, fuck you.

>>6815671
>I basically stormed into parliament and declared war
made my day, thank you anon
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>>6815677
oh come on kayla, transitioning definitely helped you a lot.
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If you had to brag about one thing about you, what would it be?

hint:
it can be a skill, your appearance, anything relating to you
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tfw you've felt exponentially worse since starting hrt
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>>6815687
i had a nap today
i nap alot
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>tfw can't sleep
it was worth a try
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>>6815699
Yes but unless you're tiny 900 is too few to be a functional healthy human. You have to aim for a maximum of 500 calorie deficit. More than that and it's just asking for headaches, low defenses, very little concentration and weakness
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>>6815707
I post in /mtfg/ and don't want to die.
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>>6815709
i went to bed at 7am and woke up at 8pm
is that a big nap?
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>>6815706
maybe, maybe not, if I can hold on to these two jobs then sure
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>>6815708
Transition is a meme
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>>6815707
Body. My body passes pretty much 100%
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>>6815704
I didn't see it sorry
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>>6815707
My legs are sculpted as fuck. It the only place I enjoy washing when I shower.
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>>6815720
>wants to detransition
>passes 100%
well that's enough mtfg for the day...
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>>6815700
>>6815705
>being cranky because no nap yet
you shouldn't browse 4chan when you're not even double digits!
>>6815709
i wish you a happy nap, grandma :3
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>>6815722
See this post >>6815627
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>>6815707
i-i can't think of anything desu
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>>6815707
my eyes, they are the only thing i like about myself
pic related
>>6815712
ok ill upp it to 1100 kcal
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>>6815726
body passes. Not face.
Just actually read before you post

>>6815717
Wish I knew this before :')
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>>6815707
I can disappoint anyone if you just give me enough time.
>>
is avocado toast trutrans
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>>6815735
At least your body passes
None of me passes
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>>6815694
Every cell. Read up on every cell has a sex. Hormones influence how a cell forms and acts when it is created.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/01/05/every-cell-has-sex/lgnbRyR1FvVqA9ccbKM5iI/story.html
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>>6815601
i am on drugs
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>>6815734
How much do you have to eat so there's no deficit or excess?
I think 1200 is good for most people.
Or you know, your could do what I did for a few months and eat about 3000 but burn about 1800
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>>6815734
These eyes...cry every night, for you. These arms...long to hold you, hold you again
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>>6815583
Lol i look just like the guy on the top left.

>>6815621
I seem to have typed the captcha :( i forgot what I was going to post.

My brain might not be working today.

>>6815599
Pineapple.
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>>6815737
this is important
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>>6815707
I think my lips are nice. I don't have any skills.
>>6815740
Hi Squeak!
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>>6815735
What'swrong with your? do you have a mustache?
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>>6815727
I'm 22, literally double digits. You're right though I'm getting sleepy.
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>>6815745
im supposed to eat 1500 kcal for there to be no deficit or excess
>>6815747
song lyrics?
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>>6815707
>tfw literally can't think of anything to brag about
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>>6815707
Also, I can play a song on certain plastic water bottles (The soft ones where if you press them they don't pop or crack)
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>>6815737
please i need to know
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>>6815680
Muh make believe daughter!

;_;

>>6815762
>Not bragging about your collection of sissy socks
Please hon.
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>>6815762
what about the fact youre cute as heck
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>>6815695
owo whats this??
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>>6815707
nothing
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>>6815431
Soon anon, soon.
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>>6815753
My brow bone comes out an inch from my forehead.
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>>6815766
But I don't own any sissy socks, whatever that is ;_;
>>6815767
Thanks other me but I'm not cute irl, maybe in some photos but even then not really
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>>6815777
>Browse mtfg
>Doesn't own sissy socks
Reeeee
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>>6815777
those trips
you can brag about that <3
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>>6815771
take me with you
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>>6815765
If it's true don't leave me a lone out her
Wondering if you're ever gonna to take me there
Tell me what you're feeling cause I need to know
Girl you've gotta let me know which way to go
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Wanted to share this again

pt 1
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Never posted here but...
Why is everyone here so fucking sad and depressed.... please explain.
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>>6815788
Imagine trying to transition and you fail
>>
>tfw a guy calls you a trap
Dead to me.
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>>6815788
we're trannies
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>>6815788
becuse we are socially inept trannies with major dysphoria
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>>6815758
Then I think 1100~1200 is fine, al long as you get enough protein and fat, and very few carbs.
In my case I couldn't find good foods with a high protein to calorie ratio so that's why I basically ate whatever and then just burnt it all on exercise.
There's a good guide about protein/fats/carbs ratios out there, but I don't remember the name. Basically you want to measure the amount of grams of protein you consume (depends on lifestyle) then have a certain percentage of your calories be covered by fats (about 20 to 35%) and the rest should be carbs.

This way you're losing weight but also being healthy, instead of just losing weight that could be from somewhere you wouldn't want to lose.

Not eating protein might mean losing muscle and maybe you want that for feminization, but it can also mean protein isn't there for other important things happening in your body, so it's definitely better to eat enough and then burn than to just not eat.
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>>6815792
Hi Lauren <3
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>>6815786

pt 2

wore this to a kink thing last night
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>>6815707
I'm interested in a lot of varied things I guess?

>>6815788
It's hard to be happy here when so many people are sad
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>>6815788
Because penis possession and lack of penis

Also, I'm happy AF, wut are you even talking 'bout
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>>6815786
>>6815796
v qt
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>>6815780
>2016
>doesn't even know about sissy socks

What is wrong me me senpai ;_;
>>6815782
Agreed, that will be my new thing to brag about, ty
>>6815788
Welcome to mental illness and self loathing general. What could possibly be wrong here lol
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>>6815786
Damn mobile phone
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>>6815795
hi carol
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>>6815788
I think i look like a guy, I have anxiety disorder, hypochondria, social anxiety, probably autism, and so on lol
I try to be happy anyway tho
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>>6815789
>>6815792
>>6815793
>>6815798
>>6815799

Consider having nice talks with nice people.
We don't judge and we are mostly happy and loving.
https://discord.gg/vCXt2
Its a trap/cute boy based discord. Come say hello :)
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>>6815796
So it was a kink thing? That wasn't what I read on fb :P
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>>6815801
I'm sorry, I thought everyone knew
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>>6815810
Kill yourself
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>>6815816
thats not nice
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>>6815796
do you still have a cute bf?
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>>6815786
Just let me fuck your ass already. Don't even care if it makes me gay.
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>>6815810
>trap
>cute boy
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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>>6815788
>born male
>want to be female
>don't want to be pitied
>don't want to be considered inferior
>don't want to be mocked
>don't want to be alone

>>6815810
I'll think about it...
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>>6815816
There is no way i'm going to kill myself, thanks for the suggestion tho friend :)
Stay happy
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>>6815810
>trap/cute boy based discord
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>>6815750
hi hi

>tfw falling asleep at the keyboard...

>>6815796
Cool costume. How was the party?
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>>6815810
>stranger wants to lure people into tgeir discord.
>Cute Boys/Traps
>BOY
>Tfw
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>>6815820
Reminder, i said based.
Everyone is welcome, there are even girls D:
>>6815821
Thats fine, If you don't like talking publicly you can message me :)
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>>6815810
wait
but this discord server is for cute boys, not cute girls...

I don't feel like I belong there.
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>>6815810
>trap
>cute boy
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>>6815832
Everyone is welcome :D
please don't let the whole boy thing scare you away, i just note it becasue thats what the server is called!
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>>6815831
I mean, I'm already in the server... it's more effort to leave at this point.
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>>6815810
I have been untethered and my rage knows no bounds
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>>6815838
Well if you are in you should say hello :D
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hey, s'up, u wacky tacky trannies

>6815717
don't let your memes just be dreams! make america great again

>>6815737
>>6815749
>>6815765
avocado is awesome in general but it's also rlly high in potassium, like more so than bananas

>>6815786
omg, I pop back in the thread for the first time since my b-day and you're here
how've u been?
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>>6815840
Aww, do you maybe want a hug?
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>>6815843
Twf I don't like avocado. It taste wierd to me
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>>6815737
Tfw unironically eaten avocado toast almost every day for the year now
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Me and three other trans girls are planning to take our lives tomorrow.
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>>6815847
That would be nice
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>>6815847
I always want a hug but the way you said it was condescending enough to make me not want a hug from you >:T

I'm not that anon tho :P
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>>6815854
Can you webcam it
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>>6815857
Its going to be a long hug tho, lots of hand holding and passion.
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>>6815862
We can tiny chat it while we jump in front of the subway train
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>>6815859
I mean it tho! i even said maybe.
>>
>tfw the guy across the hall just moved in
>apparently nobody's lived there for a week now and I didn't know
>it's just been people seeing the apartment and touching it up
>now the fucker is making a ton of noise

is he ever going to shut his fucking door?
>>
>>6815863
>hold hands
N-no we shouldn't
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>>6815852
well yeah it kinda tastes like buttery grass and can have kinda a dry/astringent quality even tho it's so fatty but it goes rlly well with other stuff, even just a little salt makes it way better than raw
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>>6815867
can i come
where at
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>>6815867
Why are you going to an hero?
>>6815871
We only do things you like :D
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>>6815843
Avocado comes from the Spanish aguacate, which comes from the Mayan Ahuacatl, which is something like testicle.

How does it feel to eat based testicle fruit all the time?

Great now I want guacamole.
>>
LIVE TRANNY GROUP SUICIDE
Tomorrow at 3pm, 15th and Market, Philadelphia.
If not in the area we will have a live show for it.
>>
>>6815800
>>6815819

<3

>>6815803

??

>>6815811
>>6815828

It was a kink event at a bar i was invited to for a birthday thing. But we had dinner at a place first, and went to a hotel in between to do shrooms.
The party itself was mostly me sitting in between my super-crush girlfriend-but-not-really-girlfriend and my actual girlfriend and talking to them and being in love with everything and everyone and wanting to be everything so i could love them and have them love themselves.
That's the highest thing i've ever typed.

>>6815818

Yes.

>>6815843

Omg, eri!!!
I'm good. : >
A lot has happened.
I moved, and dated some people, and my studio's game released and also i'm doing porn now and also i'm in a poly relationship?
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>>6815874
Philadelphia

>>6815876
Me and a few other trannies that I know don't pass and we don't want to live because of that
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>>6815879
i'll be there senpai
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>>6815880
It no work on mobile
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>>6815886
>killing self because they can't pass as a gender THEY WERE NOT BORN AS.

That is kind of pathetic you know.
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>>6815891
You see! Condescending ass
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>>6815891
Get out.
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>>6815891
if you come here as an outsider, either stay an outsider or leave.
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>>6815886
I hope it's quick and painless <3 Whatever you do, good luck.
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>>6815891
Ok
Your point?
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If I delude myself into following a serious gay-is-a-sin religion hard enough, is it possible I could completely repress my dysphoria so much that it never returns?
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should I cam on CB????
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>>6815887
See ya then

>>6815903
Thank you
>>
mtfg im goig to play old school runescape, in the mode with no banks and no trading. what should i name my character? what should it look like?
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>>6815907
It's not gay to like boys if you're a girl.
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>>6815907
I don't think that works, given all the pretty good examples out there.

But lately I've been wondering. Can one zen out their way out of dysphoria? Basically accepting reality and the fact that the body I live in is just a vessel for my ego, which isn't even my true self. Supposedly in Buddhism you have to let things go. Can I let things go hard enough that I reach an illuminated state where dysphoria doesn't mean anything anymore?
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>>6815907
Idk I've also been thinking about this. You never hear of pastors or rabbis transitioning
>>
>>6815880
You're doing actually porn not the amateur web modeling?
>>
Any other girls in the philly area wanna watch?
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>>6815917
Whoa
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>>6815729
I can't go to it on mobile

also i need to leave facebook
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>>6815918
http://www.advocate.com/politics/religion/2015/07/06/meet-first-trans-pastor-officially-ordained-evangelical-lutheran-church
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>>6815853
>>6815878
Forgot to tag (you)
>>
>>6815927
Why can't you access it on mobile
>>
>>6815928
so Judaism is the way to go?
>>
>>6815854
more details?
>>
>>6815918
>>6815928
I've also herd of transgender Rabis. Both MtF and FtM.
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>>6815934
I don't know. Clicking on it doesn't direct me to the post.

>>6815937
>tfw trans Jew
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>>6815913
mtfg PLEASE RESPONd
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>>6815941
It should
Just hold the link and open in a new tab
>>
>>6815879
>15th and Market, Philadelphia.
i could be there..
>>
>>6815937
The correct answer is Mormon
>>
>>6815948
Well if you watch to watch us jump in front of the train, be my guest
>>
>>6815948
How about NO

And >trannies attention seeking literally until they die
lol
>>
>>6815925
I know but apparently getting over /letting go of your ego-ID is very hard, Buddha level hard.
>>
>>6815940
That's probably only reform Jews, not orthodox
>>
>>6815944
They all look the same with different hair and color
>>
>>6815953
>seeking attention
It isn't attention seeking when you don't pass and living gets more and more painful each day
>>
>>6815946
Doesn't work either.
>>
>>6815960
Yes it does
You must be really inept with technology
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>>6815958
>live show for suicide

That's attention seeking
>>
so...uh
does this seem like a good product?
I just want to wax my face alittle

https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Wax-Kit-Underarms-Remover/dp/B0101212YE/ref=sr_1_18_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1472487074&sr=8-18&keywords=facial+wax
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>>6815957
ok what about a name though
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>>6815964
I posted that because I know people like chara and others into that sort of thing
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>>6815962
I click on the links and it doesn't take me anywhere. Sorry.
>>
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllloooooooooooooo!
>>
>>6815928
>FtM
>His name is Ashen

Oh dear. I must of got my hopes up too high when I thought the Aiden / Skyler meme was well known outside of /lgbt/.
>>
>>6815965
seems like it could be good. i just use veet waxing strips that you warm up with between your hands on my upper lip and underarms every couple of weeks and it works ok though everyones different
>>
>>6815972
Heyyy

Also beep pls message me on skype
>>
>>6815970
My god
What device do you have?
>>
>>6815878
well it does kinda look like that
I love ancient south american culture desu

once my partner and I made a fusion of guacamole and baba ghanoush that turned out rlly great

>>6815880
it's great that ur doing well!
like you moved to a new house or town or what?
sorry stuff didn't work out with that guy you were with last I heard and whoever else in-between but congrats on being with some new people!
which game released? that grid-battle thing one? congrats! I hope it's being received well!
at least you're getting paid now since u were kinda posting porn already lol
why the "?", unsure about how poly stuff works for u or is it just still new?

>>6815891
how about the gender they present as?
like if you just want and try to present as a big manly moon-boy but everyone treats you more as little earth-girl?
I mean you can pretend you wouldn't be bothered because you're so tough and don't care about anyone else but that's bs

>>6815907
well everyone who's known to have tried that failed spectacularly
people keep thinking it'll be different for them and they'll find the obvious secret way to do it "correctly" that everyone else just misses or isn't dedicated enough for but as far as I'm aware it never ever works out
>>
>>6815966
Swanky
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Sup nerds.
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>>6815975
I dunno
I want something more legit
I don't trust that cheap stuff
>>
In other news a Philadelphia train was stopped today by a pile of 10,000 transgender women attempting to commit mass suicide. Residents on the scene said, "It smelled terrible and none of them passed. We walked over from a couple blocks down out of curiosity and wish we didn't."
>>
>>6815982
Hey look what I'm doing >>6815879
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>>6815977
I used a toast
>>
>>6815987
It's just going to be me and 3 others
>>
>>6815982
Hi.
>>
>>6815992
+1
>>
>>6815917
>Can one zen out their way out of dysphoria?
I think it depends on whether reaching a state of enlightenment requires one to have all of their physiological needs met. I've commonly heard that MtFs are starved of their emotions pre-hrt.

>>6815987
I better keep my phone charged for when my mom calls me, making sure I'm ok...
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>>6815988
How are you going to do it?

>>6815993
Hi.
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>>6815992
i dont believe you. dont do it though.
>>
>>6815995
Like a train could kill u
>>
>>6815979
I don't know what baba ghanoush is but I really want some guacamole.
>south American culture
Mexico is not South America tho. It's on the northern hemisphere, I don't know why people from other countries say it's south america.

Anyway people with different nationalities get different geography classes, nothing new.

And I just found out that the testicle thing in Mayan is an euphemism. Like saying balls instead of testicles, while the word "balls" itself doesn't inherently mean testicles, but round things.
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>>6815927
>Tfw cal is obsessed about looking for my FB page.

Yikes!
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>>6815982
do you like this frog man chara
>>
>>6816003
i mean idk
i should try again
>>
>>6816001
Jump in front of a subway train

>>6816002
Well we'll be posting the live video
>>
>>6816008
hi kiwi
>>
>>6815997
If you're really really good at it, maybe you can let go of your emotional needs.

I don't think I'm capable though, I like my ego too much, and I use my beliefs as a tool, somehow I doubt I'd be letting those go too.
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>>6816007
I don't really like frogs.

>>6816010
Could be fun! ^^
>>
>>6816012
hi can you killme
pls ty
>>
>>6816014
what about this birdo
>>
>>6816014
It's going to be fun
>>
>>6816007
>>6816018
This style of animation always gave me some sort of movement induced nausea.
>>
>>6816007
its in perfect sync with the music im listening to good frog
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>>6816018
It's the bird form of the murder hamster.

>>6816021
Yay :3.
>>
I took my E 15 minutes earlier than usual, will I die?
>>
>>6816017
why would you want me to do that
>>
>>6816027
Maybe
>>
>>6816006
I only friend requested you once because I saw you were friends with Lizz. Accept it hoe.

>>6815977
A Galaxy note. Idk what ver.
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>>6816026
do you like skellies
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oh my god
the newest Jontron is slaying me
>>
>>6816026
There's nothing to live for
>>
>>6816031
Not a note, S3. I'm retarded.
>>
>>6816035
I also want a DnD occultist dark scene rave.
>>
>>6816034
Yo.. Did you make all these?
>>
>>6816027
No, you'll just end up a deformed man beast and not be qt.
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>>6816034
Skeletons are cute!

>>6816037
I like food, you could try that.
>>
>>6816041
No
>>
>>6816035
Also, poor Richard
>>
>>6816027
Needing to take you mones at the exact same time every day is a meme.
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>>6816010
Are you trips or anons? What newspaper do we look in?
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>>6816041
no i didnt, they're from a game called cuphead

i hope to be able to do that kind of stuff someday though ^^
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>>6816045
I don't care about food
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>>6816057
Why not. ;-;
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>>6816052
Just watch action 6
It should be on there
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>>6816051
Yeah, +/- an hour is fine.
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>>6816061
is there more leniance towards taking them more often than less often?
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>>6816045
im gonna be a skeleton soon!

im gonna be at 150 lbs soon!
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>tfw someone is rubbing my tummy rn
^_^
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>>6816058
Food has no entertainment value
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>>6816057
Does anyone else want Proxy Paige to shit a banana out of her asshole in your asshole?
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>>6816065
What do you mean by that?
Splitting them?
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>>6816004
baba ghanoush is a mashed eggplant dish so kinda similar to guacamole texture-wise and we topped it with pepitas, actually I have a pic
>I don't know why people from other countries say it's south america
obviously anything south of MURRICA is "south" america :^)
srsly tho I like native american stuff in general, have you read about aztec feasts?

>>6816027
>tfw ur terrible about taking ur meds on time or consistently
rip muh tits
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>>6816068
But why?
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>>6816068
>posting while having your tummy rubbed

You should focus more on the rubbing than on the chans
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>>6816055
30s cartoon characters are just way too cute
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>>6815917
Only if you believe it enough
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>>6816076
>>6816077
>tfw it's me
:'(
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I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow where I'll have to beg her to do blood tests for me lmao
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>watching hxh with bf over skype
>feels good man
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>>6816075
No, I haven't heard about them, but I feel like I should have.

Also that looks slightly disturbing but I want to see how it tastes.
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>>6816060
What's your statement? What are you trying to prove?
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>>6816049
what the heck
C.S. Lewis was Christian
like...wicked Christian
why are his books occult?
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>>6816067
Yay! Good luck!

>>6816070
Food is my favorite thing!
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>>6816065
depends on the drug and how it's effects change from high to low body concentration. E & P hormones, likely not much issues. You build up a bit of a base dose that will carry you through a couple hour +/- of ideal. Spiro, not so good to take it at odd intervals, it has a short half life, and sharp fall off in effects.

While not a hormone, I'm on a drug that has a 4 hour life in the body. I have to take it every 4 hours when I need it's effects.
>>
I just want to be a boys little spoon and kiss him and stuff :-( :-(
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We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children, Because the beauty of the White Aryan women must not perish from the earth.
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>>6816090
No statement at all
Not proving anything
I just want the take my life and screw up anyone who watches it
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>>6816094
Don't forget that they also are very obviously in the occultism section in the library.
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>>6816097
Food...
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>>6816106
asians are super cute tho
we should all kneel before our new chinese overlords
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>>6816105
If you like ftms I'll let you
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>>6816106
uh oh
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>>6815621
>I'm probably not even trans anyway pham so it'a all good
Really?

What got you started on this path, then?
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>>6816083
Focus on the rubbing I said! >:T
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>>6816106
What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe. Every thought and every idea, every doctrine and all knowledge, must serve this purpose. And everything must be examined from this point of view and used or rejected according to its utility.
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>>6816109
also like...that sermon seems way too tailored to her.

and why Cthulhu? why not satan? since this is the Christian god we are talking about
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>>6816106
Dana! Hi :3
How are you?
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>tfw chosen name means pure. Whomever helped me choose it had a wicked sense of humor. I was seriously not pure back then.

OK, time for a nap. I have a therapists appointment for this evening.
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>>6816106
I used to say that as a joke but now I actually believe we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
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By the end of this year I'm going to kill at least two of you
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Is Lee lemon a good name for detransing?
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>>6816119
jfc
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>>6816112
Sorry
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>>6816116
crippling dysphoria lmao

idk I think I just realised so late, there's probably something wrong with me.
I'm probably glorifying an identity most removed from the one I had and hated before.
>>
>>6816119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNDaOFQ6g2I
did you see this?
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>>6816089
oh they're crazy with movements of eating and stuff being symbolic of warrior traditions and at the end elders reprimand the host to not be to prideful and remind them that they will die one day

the baba-ghaumole fusion-dish turned out pretty good, eggplant takes on a nice smokiness when roasted and pairs well with fat like oil so it goes with the fatty avocado and the fresh chopped onion and tomato and pepper provided a nice juicy crunch and we spice-roasted the pepitas as a toasty crispy spicy topping
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>>6816119
same tbqf
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>>6816125
mine means love
...and something else
but I think that would help narrow it down so I won't say
>>
>tfw no bf to cook for
>tfw no bf to whisper "good girl" into your ear while slipping his hand into your shorts
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>>6816079
This. I would basically have to remove myself from the equation by force of faith. It would be my greatest feat of faith, but it would then mean that I'm holding on to beliefs, which are produced by the ego, so it's basically a loop where the ego just pops out again and dysphoria would begin anew
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>>6816106
Dana pls.

>>6816110
Cock...
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>>6816133
no. its literally Hitler

>>6816141
no, I avoid allied propaganda
I do like the general idea tho.

>>6816147
you know it bby <3 :3
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>>6816151
>//////<
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>>6816153
You know just what to say!
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>>6816151
I'd love to do that to a girl desu.
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>>6816154
>no. its literally Hitler
Wait, lol, so it's really a sentence from mein kampf, nice.
It just gave a really crazy vibe.
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>>6816143
Damn that sounds tasty
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>>6816163
h-hi
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>>6816154
American Nazi films are as historically accurate as Inglorious Basterds desu
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>>6816106
>tfw filthy mixed breed
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>>6815907
I tried to repress yesterday and lasted about 45 minutes.
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>>6816156
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>>6816154
Its not really propaganda, it makes fun of everyone. :P
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>>6816173
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>>6816172
did you buy more pills?
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>>6816163
My friend says there are only two things you need to be concerned about when pleasing boys.
1. Their stomach
2. Their cock
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>>6816121
Techno witches needed something more hipster than just plain old satan.

Did you happen to think Jon's scenes were so good quality that you couldn't tell them apart from the actual movie?
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>tfw swimsuit tan lines
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>tfw in the last 24 hours you've slept 14 hours
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>>6816173
>>6816178
AGPs
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>>6816184
Mama? I'm hungry
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>>6816184
that's a shadow
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>>6816184
mommy
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>>6816184
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>>6816183
yeah!
the first bit where the people were huddles in a circle it looked like he was there.

I laughed pretty hard at alot of the jokes too, which is the main reason I watch him, so that's good.
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>>6816188
AGP.
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>>6816198
pfft
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>>6816188
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>>6816198
AGP
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>>6816179
I fished them out of the bin
>>6816184
I was looking at my body an the mirror today and god my skin is awful
>scars from accidents
>stretch marks from yo-yoing weight
>dark patches from past rashes
What do I do? Like how am I gonna wear a tube top looking like this?
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>>6816193
>>6816190
>tfw two daughters to feed now
>>6816194
...are tan lines cute?
I have one on my butt too
>>6816188
Same
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>you fell for the 'not transitioning' meme
>you left it too late
>you will never actually pass
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>>6816202
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>>6816205
Tan lines are pretty great.
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pomegranate is the best fruit and people that disagree are just lazy
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>>6816139
You do know that people realize it late, right? Just because most have it figured out by the end of high school doesn't mean that all do. Being a statistical outlier doesn't invalidate you or your feelings.
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>>6816206
IN THE END IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER
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>>6816204
good
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O...oh

O///o
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>>6816210
It is great but sometimes you don't have 10 minutes to spend preparing a fruit.
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>>6816206
Holy shit that kid looked so beta she's actually lucky she was trans.
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>>6816215
*suck*
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>>6816215
Stop this right now, you are 42 years old
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>>6816210
Kiwi is the best fruit, pomegranate eaters are the lazy ones that need more then 20 calories and a bite of fruit for their effort
>>
i lov mommy faye
>>
I love the spike in emotion when I first take estrogen in the morning
it wakes me up and makes me feel better :3

>>6816224
MANGOS
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>>6816211
How old were you when you realized you were trans?
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>>6816216
c'mon, it takes a while, but it's a 2-3 min job, not a 10 min one
>>6816224
Are you seriously saying you can peel a pomegranate faster than you can cut 3 kiwis in half? Pomegranate just tastes best. Also it doesn't have enzymes that hurt the mouth
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>>6816164
Volume 1, Chapter 8

>>6816170
exactly.

>>6816177
I am too autistic to watch anything that makes fun of history too much. Historikerkrankheit, I hope
>>
Imma go to sleep now.
Good night everyone! :3
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>>6816224
avocado best fruit
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>>6816224
thats pretty true, kiwis are nice :3
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>>6816235
tfw pheinchen isnt ur sister anymore
>>
>Hon in support group's Facebook page (a support group I don't go to anymore) says she's going to self-medicate because she's tired of waiting, knows her insurance isn't going to cover anything anyway, and doesn't think her doctor will prescribe her anything
>Every single one of those fuckers is trying to talk her down despite her swearing she'll be careful and has guides and is going to do blood tests
>Half of them are nb and treat the support group like a fucking club, none of them even trying to get on hrt
>The other half are even older than her (55+ instead of 40+)
>See shit like "You know better than to buy drugs off the street" and "that's a really bad idea".
>I tell her to just "be real careful like you said you would be. Blood tests, blood tests. Don't forget a complete blood count and a metabolic count on top of the hormone tests. Ignoring those is how you fry your liver."
>Get out of shower and check phone
>Three+ replies in group
>Check it
>The entire discussion is gone and replaced with the moderator saying she "removed some posts before things got out of hand".
>Can't help but laugh
>I send her a friend request out of spite.
Fuck the police.
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>>6816239
good pup
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>>6816211
There's also the whole "never going to pass, never going to be happy, never going to be valid so why keep trying" thing.

>>6816228
I did when I just turned 25. And didn't start til just before 26
I'm a real winner
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>>6816241
w-why am I not D:
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>tfw my bf keeps telling everyone im 16 to annoy me
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>>6816237
I've always seen it as a vegetable but of course you're right it's a fruit.
>>6816245
I realized when I was 23. Tried to deny it until 24. I'm still too ashamed to tell anyone IRL I'm trans. Only my parents know.
>>6816249
He's having paedo fantasies.
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>>6816251
>He's having paedo fantasies.
You'd think he'd go younger then
>>
Why do detransitioners quit HRT though and not just stop presenting as female in public? Theres got to be some kind of a middle ground between full transition and full repression
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>>6816251
16 is not paedo y'know
>>
Because for every perfectly passing transwoman posted, there are like fifty turbohons.
It takes a combination of effort, genetics and timing to transition right.

I'll say that maybe it makes sense to transition if you are under twenty (although you need to be under sixteen to be guaranteed success), but anything older than that and the chances of success are pretty fucking low.
It should really only be a last-ditch recovery effort at that point.

I say that as someone who has successfully repressed for two decades.
I know that if I was to transition, that I would almost guaranteed become a turbohon.
Posting shit like this is a cruel trick to those who aren't as strong. Because there aren't many people out there who will see your post and think "huh, maybe i need to be a girl afterall". The people who will transition will most certainly already know what they need to do it. All this post serves to do is torture those who can't, and annoy those who don't need to.
>>
>>6816242
Sounds like she is 10 times more self aware than the others
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>>6816255
Autism
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>>6816210
agree 100%
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>>6816259
>repressed for 2 decades
why are you torturing yourself by coming on to a mtf thread?
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>>6816226
I get a little spike for the first two days after I inject. It is so tempting to OD.
>>6816236
Night
>>6816216
Just buy a bottle of POM
>>6816219
She passes better than that pic. Cis-tier.
>>6816242
Nbs and transtrenders need to be expelled from support groups. Being "trans" isn't an identity, it's a condition jfc
>>6816249
Start calling him daddy
>>6816255
Valq is doing that rn
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>>6816168
Ayy :3

>>6816182
For me its my clit tho lol
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>>6816242
>none of them even trying to get on hrt
I guess I needed something to make me feel better about myself.

>>6816266
How often do you inject?
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>>6816267
Do you have a stomach?
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>>6816266
>start calling him daddy
ewww no thanks
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>>6816266
>Just buy a bottle of POM
I don't know what that is, I am guessing it's pomegranate juice? I prefer the actual fruit, I like the texture.
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>>6816265
I don't repress.
That's not an original post.
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>>6816269
Every Sunday at noon
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>>6816264
Seriously. Just ate one and I almost can't handle how tasty it was
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>>6816270
I love food too. Girls that cook are nice.
>>
>>6816271
You don't want daddy's cummies?
>>
That's a cool thing to wake up to.

This is my mobile trip and I don't tell people to get raped by packs of gorillas.

Just for future reference.
>>
>>6816242
That kind of shitty gatekeeping worship is why I've always stayed the fuck out of trans spaces, except this board which is paradoxically one of the very few sensible trans groups ever. Given how they fucked my hopes of a successful early transition, I genuinely hate gatekeepers.
I'm fine with rl LGBT groups, though. Plenty of cis lesbians who are my kind of cool and I like having a well-filled directory for when I'm out of plans to go out... And I guess going to the couple youth groups I'm welcome at isn't bad either. I certainly don't feel I belong there but youngsters like hearing something else than the same old canned LGBT speeches, so in a way, I feel I'm fighting the good fight when talking about how to navigate around the propaganda.
>>
Also started just a little after I turned 25.
I told my Mom at 17 and she wanted me to see a therapist. After sitting on the concept being out in the open for the month it took to get in I wussed out. I decided to bury myself deep in religion instead.

I started to question this shit with puberty. 12ish or so. Then you find out about this shit when you're an early teenager and it sticks.

I was a lot more sure this time than I was then. ...I'd like to think I'm better for the trial. But of course I don't feel that way all the time.
>>
>>6816287
It wasn't even a good troll tho, why would you care to prove it's not you.
>>
>>6816288
It's probably good for the younglings to see an older tranny.
>>6816287
Just use the same trip. It isn't hard
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>>6816258
It is in the land of the free.
>>6816255
There is no middle ground, if you only half detransition you will just feel like some in between weirdo
>>6816259
I wish I was strong enough to repress as you are. I'm gonna be a hon because I'm weak.
>>6816242
Reminds me of this CBS News report on "black market illegal street hormones"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMkwzSJ88ak
>>6816288
Hi CFH. My mum keeps badgering me to join a trans group, says I could do with the support. I'm not sure because of all the stories I've heard.
>>
>>6816228
About when I was 14, and learned that there was a word for all those feels.

>>6816245
Most of those are 'just' insanely common anxiety-seed resulting from dysphoria and cross-pollinating with social stigma and body image issues common among all women.

Yes, it's awful to not be perfect, and it feels horrible when someone attacks something you already feel ashamed of. But pushing yourself further from who you want to be isn't going to improve your life unless your life is really at risk.

Take more time to think about this.
>>
>>6816296
You wouldn't be welcome at a young support group
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>>6816293
Cause I'm super autistic girl 9000 obviously.

>>6816295
Eventually I'll get around to that but I don't really care as long as there's some way to identify me, it's a hassle to get all those Japanese characters and shit on here just so I can advertise the patting of chara more than otherwise.
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>>6816296
>It is in the land of the free.
pedophile is a pretty strict definition. it's illegal, sure, but 16 is ephebophilia
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>>6816228
2 days before my 24th birthday. I always knew I was broken, but never confronted why. I always knew I was LGBT avoidant like the fucking plague too. Took another half year to get on HRT.
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>gender therapy appointment in less than 48 hours
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>>6816235
I'm not too fond of History. It's intrinsically a political and ideological tool. Even the recent strands claiming to strive for facts and objectivity are, in a roundabout fashion. Still, I'm glad for the paleography knowledge I got from studying. Makes reading XVIIth century family papers much less of a headache...
>>
>>6816296
but if you were dysphoric enough to start HRT in the first place how can you suddenly just be fine with stopping it
>>
>tfw no qt mtf gf to buy things for
>>
>>6816308
Yay!
>>
>>6816296
Join a support group long enough to befriend some people who are sane the same way you are. This could take a month or so...
Then break off ties and just hang out with them outside of group. That's what I did. You go to support groups when you need support.

>>6816288
Keep fighting the good fight, CFH! A lot of the older trans people who popped in once were more inspirational than the ones who show up every weekend. A lot more inspirational. They're the ones who are back to living their lives the way they want to. I don't want to hear a bunch of activists try to tell me horror stories, I want personal journey stories and promises of a normal-ish life.
>>
>>6816311
I'm miserable and lonely, I just wanna flirt with someone.
>>
Was anyone really only certain about being trans after trying HRT for a while or is that just a meme?
>>
>>6816296
>"that was the goal;to pass as a girl"

...it sounds so bad when I hear someone actually say it
like I am not really a girl I just want to wear this disguise
I mean I get we aren't "real" girls or whatever, but the phrase never clicked like that for me whenever I read it.
>>
>>6816308
Get. HYPED.
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>>6816222
Y.ou're right

I've finally accepted the fake ages everyone gives me

There's nothing left
>>
>>6816311
This place is 95% transbians cal.
>>
>>6816317
That isn't too rare.
>>
>>6816321
how old are you really?
>>
>>6816322
I'd go straight for an ftm though

They're so hot and little
>>
>>6816299
>the cut off point is 24
What is this bullshit? I get thrown in with 50 year olds just because I'm not a teenager
>>6816298
Am I tru-trans if I just realized last year? I thought it was just an intense curiosity all those years.
>>6816305
Tell that to the pitchfork-wielding public.
>>6816306
Pretty much the same as me, I realized just before I turned 24.
>>6816310
Idk, as I said I didn't even last an hour yesterday.
>>6816315
Ok I'll think about this
>>6816318
B-but we are real girls!!
>>6816321
R.I.P Faye
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>>6816321
I don't see any bullets in there faye
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>>6816296
Well, you could give one a shot. One session should be enough to whether it's utter crap like almost all of those groups are. Just make sure to think of what practical local info could be worth something to you and milk them for it during that one session. Addresses, phone numbers of T friendly medics, lawyers and businesses can always come handy.
>>
>>6816322
RIP

>>6816326
I guess. Most mtfs would tower over me; no problem with that though.
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>>6816321
so you bought a gun, great!

owning a gun will make anyone happier
>>
>>6816308
It's happening!
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>>6816222
Stop these memes. Everyone thinks I am 22 but I am actually 32
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>>6816327
RIP
>>6816328
>implying
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>>6816321
>revolver
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>>6816338
No! Bad Faye!
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>>6816332
How tall are you?
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>>6816340
I was a hipster when I was still alive, I had thick glasses and everything
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>>6816338
Shoot yourself in the face please
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>>6816329
There's one 60 miles from me that has a cut off point of 25. I checked out their pics, no hons. I may go to that. However are they gonna kick me out next year and if so do these places ever check ID? I can pass for 18 easily.
>>6816338
>playing with a loaded gun
Faye c'mon.
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>>6816251
Rip
I'm out to family friends and a bunch of people
Gonna fulfill the crazy tranny changed his mind meme

>>6816298
I will. I have my endo appointment in a month. I'll decide by then and keep taking my sugar pills in the meantime.

This isn't all from that one incident. I was feeling like this before. This just made it worse. Validated all those horrible things I feel and think about myself.
>>
>>6816345
I'm 5'4 maybe 5'5
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>>6816327
>Am I tru-trans
No, but only because tru-trans is an identity born out of the intense gatekeeping practices of the trans-care shrinks of the generation before you (which are still practiced extensively in parts of Europe, and the bureaucratic mechanism of which is why the NHS seems to be trying to kill trans people instead of helping them transition). Tru-trans isn't real - it just means you told the story your doctors wanted to hear.

>>6816324
Hi quid. Do you mind answering a few questions for me?
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>>6816337
are you?
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>>6816350
It's actually for my brother, he stole the car, broke in, wants to take out my dads old stuff, got a dui, tried to rape my step brothers girlfriends friend

Basically if he try's to physically fight me I'm going to kill him in self defense, it's in my purse
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>>6816350
Those age limits exist to keep creepy black men such as yourself out. They will take one look at your shit skin and kick you out.
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>>6815707
Literally nothing.
My life is a cruel joke.

2017 was a deadline for my suicide that I gave myself almost ten years ago.
I'll be glad once I've reached it.
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>>6816350
Not once you're in. My best friend still goes to the LGBT youth group she went to when she was a student. She's 27 now...
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>>6816295
>It's probably good for the younglings to see an older tranny.
It's good to see an older tranny that's actually educated, not just some dumb hon.

>>6816288
>youngsters like hearing something else than the same old canned LGBT speeches
I hate the idea that being trans is a form of self-expression, because I think it encourages people to just kinda put it off until too late. I think that being trans is in fact a physiological condition, but that kind of thinking is heavily discouraged by mainstream LGBT communities.
I wish that people like you an squeak made up the bulk of trans communities, because it would make transitioning feel so much more normal.

>>6816296
>I'm not sure because of all the stories I've heard.
I joined an oSTEM group in the hopes that I'll meet someone else that I can actually talk to. Better than nothing, right?

>>6816340
>tfw dana knows her guns
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>>6816357
oh god
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>>6816346
Faye a CUTE
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Just finished up seeing a psychologist, told him about the dysphoria, he is going to refer me do endo, I am pretty close now right?

also any tips for dealing with parent trying to push "wait, it could go away" ideas. I did shoot them down pretty hard telling them the chances it's going to go that way are near zero at this point.
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>tfw nearly had the courage to order HRT but backed out again

REEEEEEEEEEE someone please encourage me to do it
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>>6816352
Heyyy you're just barely taller than me, I'm 5'4 maybe 5'3

>>6816355
Sure, what questions? I might be a little slow to reply though.
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>>6816374
xD
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>>6816373
whats holing you back?
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>faye isn't your mommy
Why live
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>>6816378
Hmm?
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>>6816373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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>>6816363
Sweeeeet.
>>6816364
What's an oSTEM group? Like science STEM? What has that got to do with trannies lol?
>>6816373
Buk buk buk BUKAAAA
>>6816357
So you don't get along with your brother? I thought you did, I heard you talking about your brother before.
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>>6816371
tell them that you won't go infertile for at least 6 months, so it'll give you time to decide whether or not you think the spike of estrogen is enjoyable or not.

>HRT is not an antidepressant, but it does feel pretty good if you're trans.
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>>6816386
it's like science STEM for LGBT.
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>>6816381
>Faye

Sass & CFH are the only good moms here. They actually qualify since they're older.
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>tfw you will never transition young
w h a t
i s
t h e
f u c k i n g
p o i n t ?
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>>6816373
The thing that got me to call an endo was getting kinda high on pain meds.

>>6816394
I hope I get to make a pic like this after I finish transitioning.
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>>6816394
Being happier than you would be with no transition, that's the point
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>>6816373
Someday you can be cute
Like me
: 4
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>>6816394
it's funny
i'm the only person whos opinion matters to me on the subject, and i'm also the only person who won't hugbox myself
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>>6816388
>tell them that you won't go infertile for at least 6 months
why though? to speed it up? I don't give a shit about going infertile, my genes are complete trash, I am fully committed at this point, If I wanted kids I'll just get the material from my chad tier brother who got all the good genes.
>>6816394
>that face
I've seen better here
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I want die
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>>6816380
Fear and anxiety
>>6816383
I want to just do it
>>6816386
I am a chicken though :(
>>6816401
I have nothing to get high on
>>6816406
I wish
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>>6816277
they're best just a little bit overripe imo

>>6816317
I think it's more that some people realise it isn't really for them once they start actually doing stuff, but lack of that could confirm stuff for some others

>>6816373
dooooooooo it

>>6816391
mommies don't have to be older, it's about the attitude/behaviour
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>>6816394
the point is so you don't kill yourself, because your feelings mean less than the feelings of those around you
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>>6816364
Well, Syndie and I started dealing with practical aspects of transitioning decades ago. At this point, it's safe to say we know more than most activists and specialists in the field. I mean, I had enough command over the subject to get shrinks to let me dictate them the exact paperwork I needed. While being a psychiatric inpatient. Most late transitioners never looked into it before they started transitioning and only know the bullshit they get from gatekeepers and support groups...
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>>6816416
Sass is still best mom
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Okay guys I'm going to do it, I'll order my HRT now. I'm so nervous but here goes
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>>6816391
Sass would be a terrible mother lol what are you talking about
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>>6816424
proud of you
remember to get blood tests
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>>6816356
Yes
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>>6816373
Just do it. The worst that can happen is that you'll have wasted money if it's seized by customs or you decide not to take it.
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>>6816430
hi
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>>6816430
I didn't know that
like I said you look like my sister and she is 21
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>>6816424
What are you ordering exactly?
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how to get a handsome or qt bf mtfg? i wanna kiss a boy :<
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>>6816425
Sass is nice.

>>6816430
You're a QT.
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>>6816407
>and i'm also the only person who won't hugbox myself

the sad part is that someone can convince themselves of anything if the force themselves into the right frame of reference.

>>6816409
no, it's to get them to shut up while you start HRT. You'll start looking noticeably happier within a month if it's right for you, and at that point, they'll stop caring because they know it's for the best.

>>6816415
then get drunk.

>>6816422
>While being a psychiatric inpatient.
this is kinda what I mean though. It's a shame that there are so few people for kids to look up to when they're just starting to transition - I believe the whole tumblrsexual meme wouldn't have started if there was a greater number of established, knowledgeable transwomen.
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>>6816422
Are you two an item now?
>>6816446
That's Cyba.
>>6816455
Do you ever think of anything apart from men?
>>6816457
How's your chasing going?
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>>6816455
join their pro-bending team
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>>6816445
Hi!
>>6816446
Thanks sd. Hrt makes you age slower because you don't have menopause
>>6816457
Gracias
>>6816455
Blood bend
>>6816464
Indeed
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>>6816466
i laughed irl
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>>6816464
I know it's cyba
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>>6816459
>no, it's to get them to shut up while you start HRT
so since I have the referral to endo I should be able to start soon? What will they try to talk to me about?
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>>6816467
menopause shouldn't be an issue at 20-30
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>>6816467
how's your day going
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>>6816464
It's complicated. I wish we were, though.
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>There are people here who call themselves women but don't actually live as one

What the FUCK
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>>6816474
Correct
>>6816475
Good! How is yours?
>>6816477
Fear
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>>6816472
who, your parents, or the endo?

>>6816477
I'm not sure what I am desu, but I'm not a man or a woman at the moment. It doesn't feel right to call myself either.
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>>6816469
>wants to be korra
>doesnt want to eat pussy
But what would the audiencr think
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>>6815551
You think everyone is a hon erynn
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>>6816480
I thought you meant endo would be trying to talk to me, I get it now. I just wanted to know what kind of wait time I am going to have now that I have reached endo
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>>6815467
I know this feel.
My uncle killed himself after being in the army.
People get literally furious when I said that he died for little more than American interests.
I think it's almost stupid that people will defend the same institution that killed him.
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>>6816482
pussy is gross desu. I could kiss and cuddle with a girl but definitely not go down on her
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>>6816464
Terribly. But im still hoping a qt will show interest.
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>>6816386
We do, but he's a liar, and like I'm very white knight and family, so:

Leaving me the night I got in for the guy who molested me's house

Leaving before the funeral to get drunk and fuck his ex gf in Chicago.

Getting into a fist fight about if he can rape a girl or not

Stealing my car from the airport and not picking me up, lying to everyone about it.

Planning legal action behind my back to mess with me

Telling everyone he did everything in the funeral prep
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>>6816477
>>6816485
>This broadcast was brought to you by the Tru-Trans™ channel
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Just curious as to what mtfg thinks, will I ever go full-time?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11109109
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109109
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109109
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>>6816491
reminds me of some clip from an old tv show I saw once
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>>6816477
>there are people who call themselves american but don't actually shoot children from a motorised scooter while eating mcdonalds
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>>6816486
I'm not erynn

>>6816489
I was offering tips for how to deal with the parent push.

What endo? It should just be a new-patient appt. with blood tests and then you get your script during your follow-up.
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>>6816502
almost added "no you'll never pass well enough" but Tbh even if I never pass I still need to go full-time or I'm killing myself
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>>6816493
I mean i dont enjoy sexual acts either but i enjoy making my partner happy.
My point was just that korra is a lesbo
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>>6816502
I don't think I have ever seen you so it's hard to tell
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>>6816496
Ok well try not to kill each other.
>>6816504
Kek.
>>6816495
Oh well keep going. Maybe you'll have more success after HRT?
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>>6816502
there should be a "Yes, you're an undercover chaser" option
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>>6816479
im okay

im just a little sick
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>>6816509
Korra is confirmed by the writers as bi though? im bi too but heavily lean in favor of guys
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>>6816504
that's probably the best analogue
but maybe reworded

i live in australia, and i don't call myself a scot even though i was born in scotland to scottish parents
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>>6816516
>childrens television character has a sexuality at all
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>>6816520
But you are a Scot.
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>tfw voice rating threads suddenly become dead when you post your voice
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>>6816524
she had a bf and a gf in the show so it's relevant kinda :v
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>>6816516
>>6816524
I agree this entire concept is silly
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>>6816507
I need to at least have a good voice beforehand. And I need to come out to my father :P

>>6816511
Not even that picture of me anons always spam when I pwn dem? Here's the only selfie I have on my new phone

>>6816514
lmao did you click the link
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>>6816507
You can't significantly improve your passing without going full-time, though.
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>>6816525
not really
i have very little do do with scottish people
i've not been since i was like five

i can understand the accent though
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>>6816498
Yeah, no.

>>6816513
Idk. I'd just look the same but with a mustache.
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>>6816535
Why is your neck so thick
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>>6816535
i like quid
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>>6816535
Sry for hair, had just woken up

>>6816538
T causes a looot more facial changes than E does. Your face will masculinize
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>>6816210
>>6816224
black berries and blue berries are the best you all are dumb.
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>>6816505
I am seeing a endocrinologist since I go to a hospital, I was told the guy deals with with stuff pretty often.
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>>6816535
Lmao wtf you're like the copy that guy but with width instead of height
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>>6816541
Cause it's my worst feature. I'm just gonna only go out in the fall and winter with a turtleneck and scarf, I guess. At least I'm getting a tracheal shave in 2017. Hate this fucking neck.

>>6816543
<3
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>>6816545
they're berries, not fruits
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>>6816551
LOL that's a good one actually
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>>6816535
Quid a CUTE <3
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>>6816558
good pup
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>>6816555
This obviously isn't qid.
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>>6816558
Literally did you even see the picture though

I'm gonna pass but I'm gonna be one ugly girl
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>>6816544
I know, but still don't think I'd automatically become some hot guy. I'll probably still be ugly.
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>>6816338
is that a percussion cap or .22? lmao
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>>6816536
I've found that going full-time set a fire under me to really work myself into the ground with voice and body language.
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>>6816566
I did see it.
Quid a CUTE
>>
>got visibly upset at lunch today during school
>had to go home
Fuck, now my brother is going to overhear from my band kid friends that I looked like I was on the verge of crying today.
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>>6816559
thats not pup senpai
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I find FtM's detestable.
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>sister mentions she's gonna take our dog to play with a coworker's dog
>coworker's dog is a cute little puppy
>"that sounds like fun, can I come?"
>"I dunno, I think it's a girl thing"

Ouch.
>>
>>6816537
It's funny how different rules always apply to minorities. Like many people will consider me a Jamaican instead of British even though I wasn't even born there and quite frankly have nothing in common with the place.
>>6816567
T will square out your face and roughen your expression don't worry it's a strong drug unlike E.
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>>6816543
Me too. She's my sort of trip.
>>
>>6816583
</3
>>
>>6816581
why the fuck would anyone willingly play on hard mode
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>>6816561
See the thing is, as long as you're not just making up bullshit, I'm not gonna make you look dumb. If you actually have valid points I'll laugh along, it's not like I don't know how thick my neck is and since I think about it all the time you saying something isn't really going to make a difference.

>>6816567
Nah, you'll be ok.

>>6816569
Ofc I'm practicing

>>6816574
but that's wrong though
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>>6816535
>lmao did you click the link
i did
there's a "No, you're an undercover chaser"
but no "Yes, there's an undercover chaser"
>>
>>6816590
I usually use accents as my go-to.
If you talk like a bobsled, you are a bobsled.
>>
>>6816591
What happened to you on discord lol
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>>6816569
I didn't have much more to do about passing when I restarted transitioning, to be honest. It helped me improve a few things to make it completely reliable, though. Good thing too because I had to go stealth at a clinic less than a year after going full-time...
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>>6816590
>tfw FtMs have it easier than MtFs
Why the fuck do chicks always get it easier? Even dudes in chick bodies have an easier time.
>>
>>6816603
Ohhhh

Good point.

I mean I can't really imagine somebody wanting to go through all that dysphoria just to get their dick wet but I'll make a new one I guess
>>
>>6816591
how are you akaka
>>
>>6816534
so no parents should ever be shown in kids shows?
becuse that whould imply they are str8
>>
>>6816535
Why do you always look so dazed?
>>6816552
I would have thought hormones would have melted the muscles on it.
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>>6816582
Yeah I hate my lips. They're too fucking big.
>inb4 internalized racism

>>6816581
Lol why tho?

>>6816590
Yeah I hope so.
>>
>>6816616
hi hanna :3
>>
>>6816620

>>6816598
>>6816608
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>>6816618
It's either that or sad. Not even drugs, just a practiced numbness.

And some of the muscles, but need more time. I only just got back on hormones and all that
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>>6816596

Who needs to watch cute puppers play, I was gonna go get a manicure anyway... ;_;
>>
fix'd

http://www.strawpoll.me/11109321/

http://www.strawpoll.me/11109321/

http://www.strawpoll.me/11109321/
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>>6816598
You mean trans girls? Idk, cause were fucking stupid. Go away ftm.
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>tfw strong jawline
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>>6816608
God hates men.
>>6816605
>bobsled
Kek my dad still does, he sounds like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeVy5Sp6xyw
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Hey everyone! Amazed I'm still awake, but here I am. What are the haps?

>>6816583
Aww. I think everyone should be able to play with cute puppies!

>>6816639
Quite strong, indeed
>>
>>6816626
Its not my fault T is stronger. MTFs still have more representation in media (even though they do get killed more often, mostly because transwomen outnumber transmen) and MTF SRS is better than ours.
I do respect transwomen a lot because they go through a lot more disrespect and have to work harder to pass.
>>
>>6816623
hey nim ~
>>
>>6816648
Why don't you stay in your general?
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>>6816648
No, there being more is why there's more representation in media. Trans women face a lot more hatred than trans men and the average trans woman is a lot more likely to be murdered than a trans guy.
>>
>>6816649
i hope you're happier today ^^
>>
>>6816663
yeaaa i am <3
spent all day watching hxh with my bf
>>
>>6816660
Murdered for being trans, definitely. Murdered for other reasons? Well, happens to guys more than women, so...
>>
>>6816670
No shit, but why are you explaining the self-evident?
>>
>>6816670
Society certainly allows FAAB individuals to experiment with identity moreso than MAAB people. This will probably be blamed on men, but women (even those who proclaim to be for gender equality) are to blame almost as much.


It's one of the big gaps missing in feminism with makes me reject the concept overall.
>>
>>6816670
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0KGJS0IhSoE

It's almost like trans men pass and look normal with 0 effort and they get male privilege for it so it's a non story

Plenty of non transitioning ftms early in school get discriminated against, and it actually has tons of news coverage, trans women just get the talk show stuff, and the hate pieces on top of it
>>
>>6816672
But overall, they get murdered a lot more =P maybe less for reasons unrelated to being trans, but a lot more altogether
>>
>>6816642
I don't hate nigs even though my dad did leave me lol.

>>6816655
I like talking to mtfs and the ftm gen is slow.

>>6816660
Yeah, that's what I was saying. A lot of people don't even know FTMs exist; like the only really notable trans guy is still Chaz Bono and that pregnant dude from a few years back. So, at least MTFs have that; your issues are broadcasted more. And transwomen do face more violence partly because there are more, if FTMs outnumbered MTFs, then we would be the ones being killed at high rates. And also a lot of transwomen are sex workers and that's an incredibly risky job.
>>
>>6816669
oh cool

what's hxh :o
>>
>>6816683
Obviously what you said is true, but why are you explaining something that incredibly obvious?
>>
>>6816615
Killing time, chatting with trannies, looking forward to tonight~

How about you nim?
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>>6816346
Fuck, you look like me in this picture. That makes me angry since I hate myself so I hate you.
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>>6816694
hunterxhunter
one of my japanese animes
only thru skype tho, i hate this distance
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is this a cute pic
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>>6816693
No, that's the opposite of what you're saying.

If there were equal numbers of trans women and trans men, trans women would be killed at noticeably higher rates. I am more likely to be murdered than if I were an FtM, though I may be less likely to be killed than an average ftm because of my unique situation
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>>6816693
Ftms just aren't fare at fucking all

We get Bruce Jennar
You get this fucking hot ass dude that's so low key no one pays attention to him
>>
>>6816691
>It's almost like trans men pass
I've seen a few with babyfaces and really wide hips that made them unpassing.
>>
you girls are gay lol.
>>
>>6816691
They have an easier time passing, but fitting in male hierarchies is still problematic for someone who didn't spend their whole youth learning how to do that.
>>
>>6816717
YOU'RE GAY
>>
>>6816717
Ur gayest
>>
>tfw feel guilty about being trans
>realise that my family is just as fucked up as me, if not more

Okay I no longer feel guilty. I'm just going to be as degenerate as i want from now on
>>
>have a panic attack
>the one person i talk to who knows how to help me is mad at me
Fuck
>>
>>6816691
Hi Faye <3
How are you??
>>
>>6816715
I know one like that. He looks fucking weird even after several years on T.
>>
>>6816718
>fitting in male hierarchies is still problematic for someone who didn't spend their whole youth learning how to do that
I'd say it's almost as hard, if not harder, than learning how to get dressed in the morning and do hair and makeup as a girl.
>>
>>6816709
No. Face covered and that top makes your shoulders look large
>>
>>6816723
;_;

i try not to get mad at people for this reason
also cuddles are more fun than anger
>>
>>6816703
livin laaarrrggggeee

by that i mean still sick from a stomach virus

>>6816706
oh okay

i don't watch much anime!

it's nice that you can still talk to your bf on skype though :)
>>
>>6816718
Male heirarchy is simple, the stronger you are, the more respect you get, add 5 points for height, add 10 points for sports
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>bunch of people calling me straight-edge
>>
>>6816717
Hell yeah I am : D
>>
>>6816718
>tfw you never got them as a guy
rip me
>>
>>6816736
Just smoke some weed then.
>>
>>6816730
Yeah, and it's hard to not be mad at her too because I don't wanna make things worse.
>>
>>6816735
That's bullshit, I was huge as fuck in school and was still a beta. It's actually mostly about charisma. There were a few pint-sized guys who basically ran the show.
>>
>>6816717
i'm not [spoiler] even a sexual person [/spoiler]
>>
>>6816725
I actually clocked more trans guys at my uni's activities fair yesterday based on this alone than trans girls.

>>6816709
not bad
>>
>>6816718
>tfw you were always the leader of the autistic outcasts in high school

I both understood and didn't understand the hieararchy
>>
>>6816711
Most of the transwomen killed are blacks anyways so who really cares :>

>>6816714
He's ok I guess
>>
>>6816709
super cute
>>
>>6816724
Panicky
>>6816727
wayyy harder, if a ftm was ever told to be a man I'd be surprised, but I'm totally told what I'm doing wrong constantly, even things like "we're at a theme park you need to put your hair up", it's a constant nit pick of how I am as a woman by women who have way different ideas on what that means
>>
>>6816741
you know what worries me most
that someone will think i'm mad at them when really i'm not
>>
>>6816748
So edgy. not what I meant by special sitch anyway
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>>6815591
>>6815597
>>6815622
Why are you calling her a hon? The article said she transitioned over a decade ago, so more than 10 years of transition. If you think she's 35 Kayla that means she transitioned younger than you. This is your future. If you think she transitioned in her mid 30s then you better hope you look that good in your late 40s mister sister.

>>6815604
Tory are conservative right wing.
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>>6816742
Okay but you were a little bitch on top of being strong so <3
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>>6816740
How to smoke weed without getting caught?
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>>6816693
no offense but FTMs are basically indistinguishable in looks from butch lesbians and there certainly isnt an epidemic of butch lesbians being murdered
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>>6816718
P R O B L E M A T I C
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>>6816728
thx for constructive criticism

>>6816745
>>6816750
thx for hugbox
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>>6816755
He's too le edgy to recognize that cops will shoot black men for fucking nothing and thinks that as long as he didn't do anything wrong he won't get shot

RIP Cal
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>>6816013
>>6815997

Buddhism encourages you to abandon your earthly ties. religious people are typically expected to let go of their sexual needs, for example. Buddhist monks and nuns are normally supposed to be celibate and many sever family ties to live alone or in communes. Earthly needs are distraction when you are trying to reach enlightenment.
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>>6816758
>Tory are conservative right wing.
Commonwealth conservative is considered left wing in umerika
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>>6816751
Ever told how to be a man*
In person by a man*
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>>6816751
: (
*huuuuuuuuugs*
You'll be okay Faye <3
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>>6816751
>if a ftm was ever told to be a man I'd be surprised
cis males are often told to be a man.

>>6816766
it wasn't a compliment.

>>6816768
iiiinteresting.
>>
>>6816711
You unique situation is that you don't pass and you're not out so you might as well just be a dude with gyno.
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>>6816758
Lmao that makes her even more of a hon, she transitioned at 25 and looks like that
>>
so i guess the takeaway from all of this is just that women are terrible regardless of their genitals
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>>6816755
No, because I actually follow cops directions and I'm not a dindu. :^)

>>6816758
That's a hon, stop.

>>6816763
...in tv shows
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>>6816764
Really want me to trigger you?
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>>6816777
People guess that I'm trans all the time.
>>
>>6816766
well I thought you looked cute
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>>6816766
>constructive criticism
boaters are usually reserved for people with really narrow shoulders. Yours are narrow for an MtF, but not narrow for a cis girl. That said, you could wear that top without looking disgusting, but other things would probably look prettier.

happy?
>>
>>6816786
Why do you think you won't then?
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>>6816789
ty u 2
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>>6816751
oh i think i get it now
so male privilege is just not having to deal with women as much as you do if you are a woman
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>>6816792
Eh, I'd want to be shot desu.

>>6816785
What about this?
>>
>>6816786
To most people trans just means man in a dress.
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>>6816748
>Most of the transwomen killed are blacks anyways so who really cares
Cal!
Also this >>6816755 You're like putting on a deer suit in a hunting zone.
>>6816783
Dude there was a guy who was laying on the ground with his hands in the air and he still got shot.
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>>6816776
Sorry I meant exactly how, like I'm told to walk more femininely by one persons and not to cross my legs so
Much by another, constantly told I should put my hair up or down by the occasion, and how I should work with it, told I need to shave, told I need to talk both more and less with my hands, told my voice is too deep and too high and I should work on the other thing.

Told that I need makeup like them, which either means I need more Less or none

Ots really frustrating
>>
>>6816795
I mean, why would I say that again and start a bunch of drama :P

>>6816797
dat edge
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>>6816766
>>6816794
Don't try to hijack my comment to hugbox you spastic. Those are wide shoulders for anyone and the top doesn't help.
>>
>>6816779
>>6816783
You think Kayla and the other hons are going to do any better? Toppest of keks.
>>
>>6816776
>iiiinteresting
It is. It fascinates me more when I meet trans people who are Buddhists, since transgenderism seems to be an extreme focus on the conflict between personal identity and external perception where as Buddhism itself seems to be an attempt to shift the way of thinking away from that and achieve peace through detachment.
>>
>>6816805
Gun heels are sooo AGP...
>>
>>6816797
Male privilege is, not having to worry about what you're doing, which includes what you're wearing or how you look unless you have a girlfriend
>>
>>6816822
I didn't know you were AGP
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>>6816794
They don't look that narrow, probably around 18" from side to side.
>>
>>6815591
http://zoerobinson.com/about/
stereotypes.com
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>>6816824
so at the end of the day it's all women's fault?
>>
>>6816828
Do you really think I'd wear shoes like that? Not even for teh lulz...
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>>6816755
>have a higher chance to be killed by cops now lol
>really believing this
maybe if they stopped pulling guns on them and committing crimes they would not die?
>>
>>6816824
>men don't have to worry about getting laid enough or having a big enough penis or looking like a "fag" or having a high-paying job
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>>6816815
that just sounds like they're narcissistic to the point where they think you won't be a woman if you aren't them.

>>6816818
I'm giving you objective, constructive criticism. Take it or leave it.

>>6816821
I could see that. I've heard of people having similarly peaceful experiences in escapist methods.

>>6816829
I would've said 16" or 17", since they're actually close to mine
average for a male is 18" btw.
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>>6816839
why should an officer be allowed to execute someone just because they reached for the officer's gun or their own gun? an officer should be able to disarm someone without using their weapon or any type of physical violence.
>>
>>6816834
Well that includes not having to worry about expressing your opinion or a man doing weird sexual shit to you in public

It's everyone's fault
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>>6816812
Obviously there are some cases of racial profiling from cops. I wouldn't say its racism, just cops who know that black people commit over 50% of all violent crime in the US and are always prepared for shit to go down. Not saying it was right for that cop to shoot that man taking care of the autistic guy. I barely go outside anyways.

>>6816822
Perfect for you then. :>
>>
>>6816824
except you get totally shit on by alphas if you don't have sex on a regular basis, which means you need to care about how you look.
>>
>>6816824
i'll agree desu
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>>6816812
Wow a single isolated case.
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>>6816844
men's problems clearly aren't as bad, that's why they never complain about them publicly all the time like women do
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>>6816839
Lmao that's cute

just from memory

Amadou Diallo
Trayvon Martin
Rodney King
Tamir Rice (realistic fake gun, but the cops drove up right next to him which is massively unsafe and shot him literally as they were driving towards him)

Loads more but idrc
>>
>>6816846
Holy shit please tell me this is satire or something? You can't be this retarded.
>>
>>6816846
>an officer should be able to disarm someone without using their weapon or any type of physical violence.
you have never been the US have you? good luck disarming a gangbanger who the media keeps telling them all cops want them dead.
>>
>>6816834
all forms of sexism are everyone's fault
there is no 'matriarchy'
there is no 'patriarchy'
big cultural systems don't establish themselves without the support of a majority of the population, and they would struggle to be sustained if half wanted them gone
>>
>>6816861
>Rodney King
that was actually caused by the adrenalin rush of a high-speed car chase.
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>>6816861
few isolated highly publicized cases, go look up the gang violence in chicago alone, police violence is negligible in numbers yet the media hypes it to the point where you have more violence.

also
>Trayvon Martin
not a cop incident senpai
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>>6816850
>some cases
>>6816858
>single isolated case
>>6816859
>being to forced to hide your problems is proof they are not that serious
>>6816865
>It was just adrenalin
>"Adrenalin" made it excusable
>>
>>6816861
>4 examples
>three of which were based on misunderstandings
>realize how dumb this looks so you claim there's way more you just don't care
i concede, you are correct, clearly black men are more likely to be shot by racist white police
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>>6816865
And?

He was unarmed.

>>6816871
And a lot more that weren't publicized. True dat on trayvon, my bad.
>>
>>6816875
>>6816880
he RAN
>>
>>6816845
Well yah, don't you know you never go to a woman beautician/stylist because she'll just try to make you look like her, you always go to the gay guy
>>6816852
>>6816844
That's like high school stuff, no one will care if you do your job, look depressed, and dress like a slob irl

If you're a woman they'll comment on your clothes, tell you to smile, and think you're incompetent because you aren't pretty

Men can also just shave their head, wear 10$ khaki pants, and a 5$ shirt every day like a cartoon character, and be really respectable
>>
acab desu
>>
>>6816876
Literally just look up the lists of people.

Wtf do misunderstandings have to do with this? Obviously they're a lot more likely to misunderstand what a black dude is doing, that's kinda my point. They aren't intentionally racist.
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We should kill of the blacks i think!
^^
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Who was it that recently said they are non binary here? I really don't want to be a tranny. I don't want to be so uncomfortable to think about and be around for others and it's because I'm not comfortable forcing a new gender unto myself. I'm so confused.
>>
>>6816880
the numbers are negligible, why do I never hear about gang violence in the news to the same extent as cops shooting someone who charged at them or something? Is this the whole one death is a tragedy but tens of thousands is just a statistic thing?
>>
>>6816881
OH THE HORRORS

HE RAN

you realize what happened after they caught him, right? Right?

>>6816888
Bad chara. *swats*
>>
>>6816888
Blacks are worse than rats, and breed twice as fast
>>
>>6816858
BTW this meme is done wrong, "may the earth rest lightly upon them" is used against your enemies, not in honour because the full thing is "may the earth rest lightly upon them so the dogs may more easily dig them up"
>>6816882
>Comedy called "The 40 Year Old Virgin" made
>"Lol no one cares about getting laid past high school!"
>Women filtering by income in online dating
>"Lol no one cares about salary past high school!
>>
>>6816889
what's your tumblr?
>>
>>6816893
>negligible

Why don't you go look that up yourself and see how negligible it is.
>>
>>6816880
Rodney King wasn't justified I agree. And Trayvon would have just grown up a thug giving back absolutely nothing to society but Zimmerman is definitely a prick.
The most recent cases though, are just natural selection in action.
>>
>>6816900
So do Catholics, your point?
>>
>>6816902
cops are enemies desu
>>
>>6816885
similar misunderstandings have happened with white people, you just don't hear about it because it doesn't trigger your white guilt

the only study that's been done on this suggests that under circumstances where lethal force might be used, black people are less likely to be shot by the police (the guy who did the study is black btw so he can't be racist).

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/11/no-racial-bias-police-shootings-study-harvard-prof/
>>
>>6816889
Nooo don't detransition! You are too pretty!
>>
>>6816902
Okay you're talking about climbing social ladders and competition, you don't have to do that shit, that's on you, I'm talking about literally not being able to walk down a street
>>
>>6816907
But Catholics are infinitely better than kaffers
>>
>>6816889
Forcing a non-binary identification onto yourself is probably going to be more uncomfortable than blending in as a binary trans person.
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>>6816903
you suck dude
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>>6816882
>as a girl
what, you can't wear sweat pants or yoga pants and a tank top or t-shirt every day?

>as a guy
my uncle was legitimately worried for my mental health because I was still a virgin and decided that I didn't want a girlfriend at 19.
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I'm reading a brochure on transgenderism my non-gender-therapist printed out for me and it's making me SO emotional I just can't ;m;
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>>6816889
im all binary
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Okay gotta go friendpals!
Don't go kill yourself now okay ^=^.
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>mom throws me out and trashes all my things
>has the audacity to send me messages like this after the fact

she is insane
>>
>>6816906
How

Tamir Rice might have been shot by competent officers but from a distance and not immediately when he didn't even have the gun out.

You remember what they found out about the cop that shot him too, right?

And if you're saying amadou Diallo was natural selection in action you obviously haven't even heard about the case

>>6816910
You just don't hear about it because it's chance happenings and isn't indicative of a systemic problem.

The issue with that study is it's talking about cases of extenuating circumstance and context, not cases where they just kill the guy for no real reason.
>>
>>6816889
Nonbinary is a meme. Don't be apart of that mess.
Nonbinary people still involve themselves in the trans community unfortunately and are considered trans so you'd still be a tranny anyways.
>>
>>6816924
Good girl *pats*
>>
>>6816889
reminder that gender is a meme and you need not participate
>>
>>6816918
How so? I wouldn't have to come out to anyone. Being trans is such a fucking joke. I'm never going to be a woman. I've accepted that and it wouldn't be healthy to delude myself otherwise.
>>
>>6816889
I'm basically nb for the time being. I think it's a decent way to ease yourself into the transitioning process
>boy >> femboy >> nb >> messy girl >> girl
>>
>>6816927
I wasn't even referring to that. I'm talking about the past few in the last couple of months. See: "most recent". The Diallo thing happened years ago.
>>
>>6816889
Faye, Rachel, those are the two I can think of. Chara is kinda I guess.
>>
>>6816905
>986 killed in 2015 by cops in the USA
>USA has a population of 321,368,864
NEGLIGIBLE
>>
>>6816916
As a woman you don't have to give a shit about your appearance. Your "just beee urself xD" tier advice works both ways.
>>6816932
Let's talk on skype you see down :(
It's ironic I was thinking this exact same way yesterday.
>>
>>6816926
this is why christianity is retarded
they are constantly taught the idea of love and how its the most important thing, but at the same time, intolerant hurtful ideals are constantly reinforced
they dont actually know how to love
>>
>>6816932
Depends what you're aiming for with non-binary. Most people I know who identify as NB are more visibly trans than other trans people.

I guess I should ask. What is non-binary to you?
>>
>>6816928
I wouldn't be involved in the community. I didn't say I want to be non binary essentially either I'm just trying to feel comfortable with my gender and it was easier to repress and I have that down. I just can't stand to tell someone i'm a girl when I sound like my dad
>>6816931
yr a meme
>>
>>6816926
Put on ur make up, dress up pretty, let me fuck you in the ass, then go back to your mother.
>>
>>6816944
i am a meme
im just a freak
>>
>>6816944
>I just can't stand to tell someone i'm a girl when I sound like my dad
iktf
>>
>>6816935
Which few, I've been pretty preoccupied and they weren't big news events or anything.

>>6816937
Now you're just being stubborn. No, that's not negligible.
>>
>>6816937
u fuckin racist!!!!!!!!!!
>>
And now I got to do stuff, sorry to all those who wanted to keep tryna argue on the Internet, I'll check for Cal's answer later
>>
>>6816934
that's what I was thinking. I like this idea.
>>6816936
thanks :)
>>6816941
idk exactly.
>>
>>6816917
Not according to klansmen...
>>
>>6816938
>you don't have to give a shit

Again to my point, no one will say shit to you as a man, everyone says shit to women

Even in the military, I could check everything on a dude can be checked with a ruler head to toe, there's one pair of shoes and one set of rules

Women it's like this social policing where everyone has an opinion about if their nail color is ok, if their hair color is ok, I'd the cut is ok, for their shoes are ok, if their hair ands match, and their uniform is basically "does it look right or the other women" there are no rules because of boob anarchy
>>
>>6816958
The thrill of trying to pass early is fun and all, but something that jarring is really bad for the psyche. Too much change all at once isn't healthy.

>>6816960
isn't that what the Kappa Kappa Kappa fraternities call themselves?
>>
>>6816962
My iPhone hates me
>>
>>6816962
so men make things simple for themselves, and women make things overly complicated for themselves?
>>
i dont even know how to feel about my mom now my emotions are all mixed up for real
>>
>>6816974
Just a prank bro
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109944
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109944
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109944
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109944
>>
>>6816962
That's actually completely untrue, male friends will openly laugh at you if you don't fit with them. Women will just do it behind your back so it's the same really. And you don't have to hang out with other women if you find them insufferable. My aunt doesn't.
>>6816974
I think it's one of those "I like you so long as I don't have to deal with you" kind of things. Explains how some parents can act like nothing happened after kicking you out.
>>
>>6816980
>http://www.strawpoll.me/11109944
r u
fucking
retarded?
>>
>>6816980
why the fucking hell would you do that
>>
>>6816980
>no 'no'
>>
>>6816987
fuck i thought i did that ill redo it
>>
>>6816962
As someone who dresses in tracksuit pants and a jumper 365 days a year, I can say this is bullshit... if you hang out exclusively with men (well, there is a cis girl who hangs with us too, but eh).
>>
>>6816858
I know you're just baiting people but it's fucking crazy to think about how that could have been swept under the rug if someone hadn't video-tapped it
the tech is just now getting to the point of widespread availability that allows people to catch this stuff before it just becomes "the world of a hero innocent superman cop who loves puppies versus the lies of a dirty monstrous criminal who must have done something to deserve it and probably has a parking ticket and six bombs or something"

even with video evidence there are people who will leap to the defense of cops and demonization of victims/suspects desperately looking for and imagining aloud that there must be SOMETHING that means the dirty subhuman deserved it and the cop was protecting sick babies
>>
>>6816981
My girlfriend doesn't either, but she also frets for literally months over office shoes because of the judgement.

>>6816973
Yes, traditionally, but those alive now didn't invent this stuff but still have to live by those rules, and they're weird and sexist
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>>6816980
why whould you do that unless your kid is expressing desires to be the other sex?
>>
ok redo
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109985
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109985
http://www.strawpoll.me/11109985
>>
>the police shootings are the police fault
>the police shootings are the blacks fault

Ever considered that it's a combo?

I blame American (not black or white specific) culture and guns.
>>
>>6816936
Chara is non binary?
>>
>>6816980
This is why people hate us.
>>
>>6816994
no one has to live by any rules, it's not like there's secret forces enforcing gender rules
maybe the problem is women are too weakwilled to be their own woman, but men don't have that problem? idk, that sounds sexist.
>>
>>6817001
this desu
everyone is shitting themselves in a shooting
"fug this nigger might shoot me *clapping*"
"fug this cracker might shoot me dawg
>>
>>6817001
da white man made da black man violent
>>
>>6816936
and me lol
xd
>>
>>6816990
If you never go out in public, work with women, or hang it with them you'll be fine

More examples:

Edie/dollface wore a blue skirt, heels, and a white linen top out, women in dingy comfort clothes would literally stare daggers through her, like most women that saw her, and it wasn't even inappropriate.

I wore 2 inch shorts with no bra to an amusement park, and because everyone was dressed like that, no one said anything, only got shouted at for going in the men's room
>>
I want a hug :(
>>
>>6816998
I would just kill the child if it was a boy, save him some trouble.
>>
>>6816910
>similar misunderstandings have happened with white people, you just don't hear about it because it doesn't trigger your white guilt
LOL you hear about it all the fucking time tho!
bitches can't help screeching about the big bad ebil guberment when they question /pol/tards in masks bringing guns to black protests let alone when they get shot incorrectly
>>
>>6817001
>live in australia
>"can i see your licence mate?"
>"pull it out of my jacket like a gun"
>"har har"
>makes me do a drug test because i seem like a fucking idiot

>meanwhile in america
>"license and registration"
>"reach for jacket"
>get mowed down with thirty rounds
>"he was coming right for us"
the sad thing is that the police deserve some sympathy because they get shot a heap too
>>
>>6817020
not unless you change your name
>>
>>6816959
>>6816959
>>6816959
>>6816959
new new new
>>
>>6816958
>I like this idea
hon culture heavily discourages it, actually. I think it's way safer than RLE, and you can kinda just stick with whatever you like.

>>6816962
I'm sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth, but I'm just trying to understand

so you mean that you would prefer the male cookie-cutter fashion over the female standard of applying a lot of effort?

btw, tying your hair back at the beach is just a way of keeping everything neat when it's windy or when your hair is wet

>>6816990
"Beta girl"

>>6817019
>Edie/dollface
edie is a narcissist that wore hooker makeup like it was normal.
>>
>>6817019
I disregard the opinion of others.
I have got upturned noses before, but I couldn't give a shit about what someone like that thinks.
>>
>>6817020
hug~
>>
>>6817011
so then made white guys shoot up abortion clinics and churches and schools?
oh let me guess it's all a jewish plot :^)
>>
>>6816955
it is, 3 people a day in a country as large as the US is nothing at all, it's a one in a hundred million chance a day.
>>
>>6817037
I'd prefer if we appreciated asthetic more and gave both options to both sexes, but it's really about the social policing of the women's standard, things like being fired for not wearing heels over flats for example propagates a bad message towards women
>>
>>6816845
Those shoulders don't look small, can put at least three heads there side by side so I would say 18" but if you're lean low weight male that's still a lot. Not small by any shot.
>>
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