Why are all those fuckservative think tanks so hellbent on destroying

Do you have evidence to prove him wrong?

>>6785257
:^)

>>6785227
>durr but there's not enough of evidence for this
That's how science works you fucktard.

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>>6785227
pic related seems a lot like you

>>6785227
MFW psychiatrists and shit try to politicize by taking absolutist stances.

He's right that it isn't entirely innate- nothing is. Literally all aspects of a human being are cultural to some degree of another. The fact that he has just "discovered" this makes him look like an idiot more than it does anything else. Saying that there is no evidence is to support something simply means that we haven't proven the cause. Of course there are biological aspects as well.

Even if there isn't psychological justification it is my liberty to do with my body as I please and if they dont like it they can leave america

>>6786586
>uwaggghhhh I'm just so baffled they're clearly mentally ill
They think this is the end of the discussion. Like if this stuff is mental illness (read, considered an aberration by the dominant socio-cultural political faction) that still does not change the fact that transition is the most effective known treatment and is highly safe

>>6785342
I hope you're posting this satirically, because the idea that trannies never shave and wear next to nothing aside from fishnets and prostitute nails is a total meme and doesn't reflect reality except in very fringe cases

>>6785227
So you're saying it's all just nature, and none of it nurture? Not one bit? Hmm.

>>6786591
this
people need to realize that being mentally isn't being recognized as some demonic abomination that needs to be culled so there haha, it's just saying you've got a condition that needs treatment

>>6786630
The mental illness argument is a scapegoat for the actual "degeneracy" argument. Fucking Conservatards. They think if you just ignore something then it doesn't exist. Like homosexuality.

>Millions of People have experienced this daily around the world and have done for millenia
>NOPE NU-UH DOESN'T EXIST THEY'RE MAKING IT UP
>But it's literally happening right now regardless of classification
>IT'S PSYCHOLOGICAL, COMPLETELY JUST A MENTAL ILLNESS


They said it about gays too for years, it's like a big 5 stages of grief process that takes generations of bigots years to go through. People aren't going to stop being transgender so it's not going away, they just need to move to the acceptance stage ASAP so we can start exploring space. God knows what stupid objections they'll have to that. Trans people don't even affect their daily lives and they troll themselves by reading about it constantly, God knows what actual real change would do to them.

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>>6785342
pic related seems a lot like you

>>6786789
>it's like a big 5 stages of grief process that takes generations of bigots years to go through
spot on
it's really embarrassing when they try to hide behind "science" and "reason" though

>>6786789
>so we can start exploring space. God knows what stupid objections they'll have to that

'We gotta look to whats happening down before we start looking up there!'

>>6786891
*down here

>>6786789
really they just need to get over the idea that "mental illness" is some universally accepted trump card [pne] like "degeneracy"

>>6785257
Yes, a tremendous amount. Where do i sign up?

>>6793217
>muh medical degree
let me guess, did you get it from Dr. Will Street Katz from the medical-industrial complex?

>>6785227

>Wanting conservatives to lie and not be truthful
>Wanting conservatives to pander to the LGBT community and those having an identity crisis when there is no evidence proving it's in their genetics.

Maybe it's time for you and others to face the truth and that is being LGBT is a choice you made over over a period of time.

Of course it didn't happen over night but over a period of time you chose to embrace those thoughts (Am I a girl? Do I like guys? etc.) ...you chose to search online for LGBT websites/porn/issues or for LGBT people to talk to and become friends with. You chose to meet up with LGBT people, hook up with them, have sex with them, etc. You allowed yourself to become swallowed up by their community and started to identify with it and look down upon those who aren't in their community...and now look at you...you became a freak like them.


The truth is all of you can be changed back to your normal state of being straight. Many have overcome their strange lusts of the flesh and have done so.

>>6793217
>there are no LGBT people with medical degrees, ever!!!1

>>6786789

Millions of people around the world have experienced strange lusts & horniness and some have gone about acting them out (having sex with animals, having sex with children, having anal sex, having oral sex, male on male sex, woman on woman sex, etc.) but don't try to act like 2 men & 2 women loving each other in a sexual relationship is something that has existed since the beginning of time. History has very little proof of such a thing occurring. They only have proof of our ancestors being horny and fucking everything... before their countries end up being destroyed.

>>6793405
>but don't try to act like 2 men & 2 women loving each other in a sexual relationship is something that has existed since the beginning of time.
Uh, I'm sure it has. It even happens in non-human animals.
>History has very little proof of such a thing occurring.
Historically, the records have always been swapped around, changed to suit the whims of kings and tyrants, and burned to "save people" from knowledge or simply cast away some perceived sins.
>before their countries end up being destroyed
Just imagine how much ancient knowledge we've lost due to natural disasters, and then imagine how much more we've lost from wilful idiots warring and burning books and documents that they didn't like, or that offended them.

>>6793253
please tell me that you are going to keep your filthy breeder mouth shut from now because no one cares

i'm trying to streamline my opinion on this as much as possible

I don't care where you pee or what you wear or what you put into your body, but I don't have to like your personality, don't have to agree with your opinions on things, and WILL absolutely remind you of your balls, by kicking them square into your body if I catch you being creepy in the women's restroom because it's a bathroom. There shouldn't even be eye contact.

>>6793451
>It even happens in non-human animals.

Actually the only animals studied that it happens in are those in Zoos or unnatural habitats made for them by humans, which are much like the concrete jungles most of us live in.

>Historically, records have been swapped, changed, and historians can lie.

This is the problem with History in general. We all could be being told lies and not even know it. There is a lot of information that isn't even posted on the internet these days.


>disasters have caused us to lose ancient knowledge

I agree. It's sad what we don't know. Perhaps these disasters aren't so natural and they're done by God on purpose due to his people not worshipping him. I guess we'll never know til' we die.
For me...my gayness started exactly as I described >>6793321

It started out as a small voice in my head after being bullied in elementary/middle school, "Maybe you're gay, all these people don't want to be your friend because you're feminine and weird." Perhaps that was Satan trying to convince me I was gay due to being weaker than other guys and not caring about sports and other things "normal boys" were into.

Those thoughts end up causing one to think they are something they may not be. We must guard our minds.

>>6793217
>He thinks retrograde contradictory "study" of a politically biased doctor who recently moved far away from the medical establishment has the same merit as politically neutral peer review
>Le appeal to authority: the post
Are you clinically retarded or just trolling? My Harriet Tubman's bill is on the latter, that you are now probably laughing your round porky head off in the damp moldy premises of your mother's basement at the "gotcha" moment you thought your deteriorating neurotic mind had.

>>6793542

>Actually the only animals studied that it happens in are those in Zoos or unnatural habitats made for them by humans, which are much like the concrete jungles most of us live in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOZyN88RBU

Kek. And in captivity, instead of having orgies like the natural-born degenerates they are, bonobos become violent towards each other like other apes. Where's your argument?

>Fox "News"

Sensationalism with a far-right spin isn't news. Why you would care what these kinds of networks thinks is beyond me.

>But they're spreading lies and propaganda

Sure, but there's nothing we can do about it. It's a free press. If people are frankly ignorant enough to gobble up all the shit regurgitated by televangelists and conservative talk shows, then they're probably the last people you should be looking to for a sense of validation.

Sorry OP, but the human condition is pretty shitty and it's never going to improve. It's time to stop caring about other people and what they think.

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>>6793621
guess what happens if instead of bonobos we put men or basically anybody else in cages?
>in captivity, instead of having governments like the natural-born civilized sapient beings they are, humans become violent towards each other like other apes.
where is YOUR argument now?

not who you've replied to btw

>>6793576
>appeal to authority of the medical establishment
>politically neutral
>implying the process of getting grants and publishing to influential journals while jockeying for tenure doesn't involve politics
Try publishing something that goes against the prevailing social orthodoxy, then enjoy getting black-balled and watching the grant money dry up. Science!

>>6785257
Of course they don't. It's easier to write Fox News in green text.

>>6793639

The point is that guy (or maybe "guy") thinks homosexuality is the result of captivity. And to some degree, there is the prison gay phenomenon. That doesn't mean homosexuality comes exclusively from forcing ourselves into boxes, as the bonobos show. There's still a very big difference between the freedom a person without a criminal record enjoys over the limited actions a convict can take as well. To call the former a captive of an unnatural system is a stretch in comparison.

>>6793688
>that guy (or maybe "guy") thinks homosexuality is the result of captivity
yeah, that's total BS
besides one should always distinguish homosexuality as "two same-sex people (or other animals) having feelings for each other" homosexuality from "one person sexually assaulting another which often happens in captured rodents that are stressed out or due to overcrowding" homosexuality

>>6793717
let me also clarify my post even more: one is sexual attraction, the other is abuse and rape (e.g. le prison gay) and they are not the same

>>6793724
prison "rape" is usually not rape

I wouldn't throw out the stressed out, overcrowded thing considering that gay people are found more in urban/developed areas, there is a side to this that hasn't been looked into

>>6793729
overcrowding may be an influential factor as seen in rodents, see calhoun's 60s mice experiment which gave birth to the term "behavioral sink"

this is what happened after they placed way too many rodents under the same "roof"
>Many [female rats] were unable to carry pregnancy to full term or to survive delivery of their litters if they did. An even greater number, after successfully giving birth, fell short in their maternal functions
>Among the males the behavior disturbances ranged from sexual deviation to cannibalism and from frenetic overactivity to a pathological withdrawal from which individuals would emerge to eat, drink and move about only when other members of the community were asleep
>In the experiments in which the behavioral sink developed, infant mortality ran as high as 96 percent among the most disoriented groups in the population
does this mean stressful environments create homosexuals? hardly, since homosexual sexual orientation is most likely a product of the "sexually dimorphic nucleus" located in the hypothalamus but it does increase the incidence of homosexual acts of rape in otherwise "normal" mice

>>6793667
Let's see
>thinks underage girls who get pregnant from rape should be forced to bear children and denied access to abortion or emergency contraception
>thinks "the gay agenda" is what causes priests to commit child sexual abuse
>claims that sex changes are harmful since trans people are more likely to commit suicide than the general population, even after transitioning (which is equivalent to saying that we should ban fire trucks since houses visited by fire trucks are more likely to be destroyed than houses that never catch on fire in the first place)

>>6785339
>science has nothing to do with evidence :^)
stop being a moron

>>6793217
>What every member of the LGBT spectrum has IS a mental illness.
That's not what medical professionals say. Maybe you should try to learn biology and medical science at something deeper than a 7th grade level before you try to argue about it.

>>6793321
Wow anon, I'm really impressed by that long list of credible sources you found to support your argument

>>6793660
If the medical establishment simply went and said "noo we reject this because it disagrees with our agenda", you'd have a point. But that is quite simply not what happened. His "study" was found to have massive logical holes in it, and he made zero attempt to fix them.

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>>6793660
>he's not biased, uh uh, no siree, he's just a bold brave maverick challenging all those senile pencil-pushing dinosaurs you call the medical establishment

>>6785227
i-is that chevy chase?

>>6793542
>Satan

You're retarded. There's no such thing as God or Satan, they literally do not exist. You can cry fedora all you want, it's not gonna make them real, sorry.

I was trying hard to follow your logic but if you believe in something completely fictional then I'll never be able to follow it, much less take it seriously. It's not that history is 'all lies', it's just full of facts you don't like.

>>6794080
>[incoherent spergout]
Literally wut?

Again
>academia, including medical research, is highly politicized

>>6794249
>Evil doesn't exist nothing to see here goym
I'm honored to be in the presence of someone so intelligent, freethinking, and enlightened.

>>6793321

So what evangelist church do you go to?

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>>6794477
He's obviously fed up with your bullshit and you being so quick to move the goalposts. First you would almost swear on your mother's life that McHughes is "real science" and accused other posters of being "clueless trannies with no medical degree" then you were shown that he was bought by the Conservative think tanks compromising his integrity as a scientist and now you're backpedaling, calling the entire medical establishment biased by itself.
Fuck off with your tired old baits. Seriously, dude, get a life.

Also stop deleting your posts to hide what a shifty retard you are, retard.

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>>6793405
>Don't try to act like 2 men & 2 women loving each other in a sexual relationship is something that has existed since the beginning of time. History has very little proof of such a thing occurring.

>>6785227
K

>all these ass blasted trannies
To this day I have not met a well adjusted non crazy tranny
It's a mental illness

Also the only reason the gay community and homosexual identity exists today is because of psychology lumping behavior and classifying
Ive always found it funny that a group of people who did not have an identity before psychology managed to seperate themselves from psychology

>>6793628
>Fox News
>Far right
Are you memeing right now?
Do you know what far right means?
The far right does not exist in any MSM network

>>6794911
lol he's probably the author of the study himself
at this point i'd even believe his post is just elaborate satire with a goal to make people realize what bullshit this "study" is

>>6785227
Wait do people on this board still complain conservatives?
God that's so 2000s
Get with the times and stop acting like normies
Nobody fucking cares about this shit anymore and Republican nominee has already convinced his voters that it fucking doesn't matter because it doesn't
Youre getting your panties in a bunch over minor shit which is exactly what they want