How do I get rid of a fetish? I'm straight (women are pretty

I'll take "gay and in denial" for 200, Alex.

>>6772561
I mean, I've considered that, definitely. But like I said, I don't really any visual response to men as a whole. That's why I think it might be just a penis fetish, which isn't that unusual in otherwise straight men.

So have you considered being tranny chaser?

>>6772682
That would be rude to them.

>>6772707
As a tranny, I appreciate your unwillingness to objectify us. The world needs more people like you.

>>6772385
>I don't really any visual response to men
that's repression

are you sure you aren't a tranny?

>>6772802
Sexuality and gender are vastly different.

>>6772802
what >>6772812 said but also yes, i'm very comfortable in my gender

>>6772385
Any interest in twinks/fem guys or trans girls as a whole, rather than specific parts?

>>6772876
I'm not into the whole mega-masc area but also not into really femme guys. Kind of a middle ground of not thin as a rail but not over-muscled? More normal looking, nice face/build/posture. When I do notice men as pretty that's generally the type it ends up being.

But also like I said in the OP, it's easier for me to look at women. It's pleasant and I feel more at ease. That's why I keep coming back to low libido/fetish.

>>6772908
So then, what about non-op trans girls?

>>6772933
Not really interested in being a chaser, anon.

>>6772956
It wouldn't make you a chaser just for being interested in dating trans girls.. it'd make you a chaser if you objectify them (hurr hurr) and fetishize them for their penises but, yeah... preferring trans girls doesn't immediately make you a chaser. I mean, if you're not into it your not into it but don't hold yourself back if you think it'll make you a chaser.

Im same as op. Like women and really dont like men. However i dont get aroused by thinking of me fucking a woman. I usually just selfinsert as the woman in my fantasies.

I have this ongoing fantasy where a woman, a trap/femboy/transgirl and a masc man fool around. I am always either the woman or the transgirl.

Im pretty positive im not gay. I have considered if im trans but i feel comfortable with myself in my daily life, mostly. Plus even if i did transition this would be socially unacceptable where i live and i would never pass in a million years. I dont feel dysphoria so not worth it.

In addition i had this crush on a girl since highschool (22 now). Up to this day she is ALWAYS the girl in the fantasy i mentioned earlier. She was so cool and kinda tomboyish. Never talked to her because she was pretty mean to almost everyone not in her direct social circle. She was also never very popular with other boys my age. I realize now i always wanted to be her, not really be with her.

I also realized that i had fantasies where i self insert as the girl since i was VERY young. Didnt even realize it at the time, but looking back its so obvious. I actually almost never fapped to straight porn. At first it was just lesbian porn or erotic stories from a female pov. Almost everything i ever fapped to i know realize i found hot because i inserted myself in the position of the girl.

Is this what they call AGP? How do i get off this ride? Is there a way to fix me w.o having to transition so i can enjoy sex more?

When i was 18 and just moved to study an older friend took me to a brothel. I went with one of the girls. I couldnt get hard at first and she just ended up jacking me off. Pretty pathetic desu but it was my first time and back then i just chalked it up to nervousness and feeling terrible about actually paying a poor girl for sex. Now im thinking i just cant enjoy straight sex or something.

>>6773129
Call it agp if you want but agp = trans.

You don't have dysphoria, so that would, medically speaking, not qualify you for transitioning. But I think, somewhere down the line that you DO have dysphoria, you just didn't understand how it was manifesting, and that obsessing over it just makes it worse.

You want to be a girl, that seems pretty obvious. No trans person ever would prefer transitioning over just magically being a cis girl, it's a pain in the fucking ass to go through, but you don't have any other options than either transitioning or ignoring your problem.

See a therapist, someone who has worked with trans clients before, and work through your issues with them. You clearly have a lot to unpack.

Your story is practically the same as any other generic late-transitioning lesbian trans woman. It's not what you want to hear, and it sounds completely fucked, but thems the breaks. You have my sympathy.

>>6773129
>Is there a way to fix me w.o having to transition so i can enjoy sex more?
Sadly, no. The needs that give you these desires are hardwired into the structure of your brain. They are what tell you which role to play during reproduction. You can either fight it, or embrace it. Trying to ignore it is a type of fighting it. Know this, if you decide to fight it, you will have to fight it for the rest of your life.

>>6772385
You seem really repressed homosexual from what I can read here OP.

>>6772812
Yes, but if you imagine yourself in the sexual role of a woman, that can certainly be a clue towards repressed gender identity

t. tranny

>gets hard thinking about men
>claims, "I'm straight."

Stop being a faggot and fuck a man.

>>6773129
>>6772385
i'm kinda the same. it's weird. i'm sort of attracted to men, in that i'll masturbate to them, but i'm always a woman when that happens. i don't crush on men though and kind of find them a bit gross and weird. i crush on girls a lot and they give me that butterflies-in-the-stomach feeling, but it's almost nonsexual in a way. the idea of kissing or cuddling with girls is really appealing and pleasing but the idea isn't that arousing i guess? it's really weird.

>>6773129
Me

>>6775032
>i crush on girls a lot and they give me that butterflies-in-the-stomach feeling, but it's almost nonsexual in a way. the idea of kissing or cuddling with girls is really appealing and pleasing but the idea isn't that arousing i guess? it's really weird.

THISSSS FUCKKK

OP here. Was thinking about it more and like, I've had emotional crushes on women before, but I can't think of a time when that strongly crossed into physical crushing and fantasies. There were times when someone suggested something like "I'm going to introduce you to a friend" or "you two should go to the dance as friends" or "I'm dancing with the person I had a crush on" that I might get aroused but like, it wasn't really the person I was aroused by. It was the thought of "maybe I could Be Dating Someone" or "Be In A Relationship". There was a time I was at a friend's dorm and two of my friends were dating and the woman made a comment like "yeah you just want to come over so you can make out with me, not study" and I remember feeling something like "wait what. is that something I'm supposed to want to do".

I think I've always had this mental image of a relationship that had emotional closeness and familiarity but no real physical aspect. Like I'd almost be happier if I could skip that part and just be super super close friends.

>>6774748
Shut up you tranny.

t. anothertranny

>>6775839
Shut up you tranny.

t. anothertranny

>>6775977
Wow rude?!

t. 2nd tranny

>>6775839
>>6775977

If you trannys don't settle down someone is getting their dick sucked and it won't be me

>>6773129
I'm a female and I feel the exact same way but with all the genders reversed. I never knew other people felt like this. I like the personality and social interaction of men so much more than women. I always was friends with groups of guys rather than girls growing up. I had crushes on boys but when I think about it I really wanted to be them, not be with them. I'm not dysphoric though and I would never want to transition. I am very feminine looking in the face and skinny, not the most femme body, but very girly and I like that but I really can't stand having a penis inside of me or giving blowjobs or anything. It turns me off and I feel defiled afterward. It's not that I don't like penises but I just fantasize about being the one with the cock.

>>6776244
Forgot to add, I hate getting fingered or oral. All my sex dreams I have a penis with my normal body. I have had lesbian experiences because it's more acceptable for girls and enjoyed it but when they start treating me like the girlfriend I back off. Sometimes I wish I could be a femboy or trap desu. I'm in a relationship with a man right now. We've been together for 3 years, friends for 7, live together. I have sex with him whenever he wants but honestly I just want it to be over. I love him and he is my best friend but the sexual stuff I'm not into which I feel bad about.

>>6776361
So you feel like the type of sex that would satisfy you the most is the type that would never be possible for you to have unless you could magically turn into the opposite gender? And everything else is at most lesser than that?

Because this is what i feel and its a really shitty feeling.

>>6776527
Try getting fucked by a guy. You might not like guys yet, but give it a try anyway. Even if you were a girl I would imagine you would want to be fucked right?

I feel bad for natal females in that respect though, closest thing to an easy solution is a strap-on but I don't really see how that would be very enjoyable, idk

>>6772385


Accept it and enjoy yourself or stop watching porn.

>>6776615
See, the idea lf getting fucked by a guy by being a guy myself doesnt appeal to me at all.

Now that i think of it, maybe Its just that my body image issues are more severe than i thought. Any fantasy with me involved in my current body just kinda disgusts me. I used to be kinda fat, then lost weight and became borderline anorexic (was 65kg at 190 cm at some point, i know this is around 130 pounds at 6'3" for americans). I found myself to be too skinny so i started lifting heavily and eating a lot. This went great and i found lifting really fun, but a combination of bad OHP form, intensive and prolonged writing and playing vidya at my desk with a shitty posture meant i got tendonitis (golfers elbow) and had to stop doing pretty much everything i loved. I still have tendonitis right now, 3 years later. Stopping lifiting meant i got pretty fat again. So i cant even work out until i fix that.

Maybe if i fix my body and try to get into a relationship again i'll be fine? Sounds a lot better than trying to transition.

>>6776527
Yeah you described it exactly anon.

>>6776615
>natal females
Yeah I am pretty lost. A strap on sounds okay. I've considered just becoming celibate and having male friends.

>>6776209
N-no! I would die from the dysphoria! Anything but that!

>>6772385
>>6775032
>>6775094

To guys in thread who feel butterflies in stomach around girls they are crushing on:

Is this feeling accompanied by pre-cum if not a boner?

What happens if you let yourself visually enjoy a girls body? Or communicating intimately? Any of that?

And if not, then what do you identify as?

t. bi guy who identifies as such because he is sexually turned on by both sexes.

>>6781920
No, not sexual at all. More like feeling emotional and wanting to be around her. Feeling bad when she's not there. Worrying about what she thinks of me. Feeling bad when she jokingly texts me I'm terrible even though I know it's just a joke. Thinking about her every day.

Not really being able to get it up during sex unless I think of a hard cock. Feels bad, man.

>>6782060
Damn that's a real shame. Many ways for relationships to be difficult. But if it helps, some of the most rewarding, most cherished, and most intimate adult relationships haven't had a sexual element to them.

>>6782060
yep youre a tranny, take estrogen and youll like start liking men full on

>>6781920
>Is this feeling accompanied by pre-cum if not a boner?
Once or twice I went to half-mast when I tried asking someone out, but just talking? Not really. If I'm just talking to someone I'm crushing on, I'm happy to be around them and talking to them but there isn't a physical desire aspect to it.

>What happens if you let yourself visually enjoy a girls body?
Nothing really. It's visually pleasing, but no real physical response worth speaking of. A twinge or twitch but not the full-blown "shit's blowing UP down thre" feeling of actual arousal.

>Or communicating intimately?
HA HA HA you assume I've ever been emotionally intimate with a crush.
>kill me

>And if not, then what do you identify as?
I WISH I FUCKING KNEW. Nah, these days I'm just going descriptive - whatever my sexuality is, I don't think I'm interested in doing anything physical with women. Friends, sure, close friends, yeah, visual admirer, ok. I think for me, that's the last stop though.

>>6782264
Look on /s/ and describe which, if any, body parts turn you on when looking at them

>>6782453
>which, if any, body parts turn you on
None of them.

I can't tell you how many hours I've spent trawling through /s/ trying to find something that turned me on. If I could get aroused by stuff on /s/ I wouldn't have made this thread in the first place, I'd just be over on /s/ masturbating.

>>6782475
Oh, then you're homosexual.

You may be heteroromantic or whatever, but sexuality-wise you're just homosexual and you will only enjoy sex with someone who has a hard cock. This will not change.

Have you tried having sex with traps?

>>6782103
Tranny here two years on whoremoans, when does this kick in?

>>6782496
>Oh, then you're homosexual.
I mean, I can't say that I think you're wrong, I just... I guess I've got a lot of deep issues with that. Intellectually I see what you're saying I just have a hard time accepting it.

Thanks, though.

>Have you tried having sex with traps?
Like I said earlier, not interested in being a chaser.

>>6782475
What if female parts turn me on, but imagining myself fucking them less so? Imagining myself getting fucked by a guy while being a guy myself turns me off. But the same fantasy where i am a woman is kinda hot.

Actually any fantasy involving myself in my current body turns me off.

Am i a full blown tranny or could body image issues also be the culprit?

>>6782596
not that guy but look up crossdreaming communities

If the thought arouses you, just try it irl. If you don't act upon what bothers you, it will lay eggs and you will end up even more confused and full of weirder feelings.

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>>6772812
>Sexuality and gender are vastly different.

>Being this ignorant of evolution

>>6772385
Sounds like your sexuality is starting to shift. In a few years you'll probably like guys a lot more. Don't sweat the label, anon. Just go after whoever makes the dick in your heart go doki doki.

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>>6782547
If you're not interested in being a chaser, you either have the option of being in a relationship with a man or not having any romantic relationships at all. Are you more comfortable with that?

I'd rather have a relationship with a trap or a woman. I do get turned on by pictures of thick asses. So I'm actually bi, which pleases me because I like women romantically.

>>6772385
you're pretty similar to me
(i'm gay)

>>6785203
>you either have the option of being in a relationship with a man or not having any romantic relationships at all. Are you more comfortable with that?
i guess i'll have to live with that choice, then.

>>6781920
yeah kind of. at least in person. and the idea of kissing or touching or sex with her is arousing, but sex just isn't very arousing

i don't really know honestly

i don't identify as anything