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Comfy edition

Summer is over. What do you do for autumn comfy? Me, I read books.

dead thingy >>6702641

Don't forget to sage until we're at bump limit on page 9-10.

Ancient map: https://www.zeemaps.com/edit/U0Hw9yNtqrJd-qzTdbUFMw

Some info: http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/tags/

Phalloplasty info: http://ftmphalloplasty.tumblr.com/post/127662387608/phalloplasty-blogs

Skype group: add duckduckfrog
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>>6724530
>What do you do for autumn comfy?
try to grow a beard.
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>>6724597
...Aren't you still pre-T?
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>>6724929
yep, waiting for a call telling me when my first shot is though.
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>>6724530
>What do you do for autumn comfy?
I make tea, drink hot chocolate, wear heavy sweaters, lay in bed, and enjoy the rain. It rains here pretty exclusively in spring and autumn, so it's pretty atmospheric.
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>>6724530
>autumn comfy
I can wear layers again to hide my gross body.
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>>6724530
For comfy:
Running in the rain
Fishing stuff
Squirrel hunting
Smell leaves, mushrooms and stuff
Fireplace and blankie
I swear I'm not a dog
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Can I hang out around ftmg even though I'm nonbinary? I used to like this thread when I identified as male. It's comfy.
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>>6725354

>nonbinary

I know where you can hang.
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>>6725354
"comfyness stops"
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>>6725354
as long as you share similar concerns and discussion topics, i don't see why not
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>>6725354
just dont complain if other anons bitch about you
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>>6725354
Just curious what gender you live as?
Most nonbinary people I've actually seen just do regular a FtM transition anyway, you'd think there would be tendency towards androgyny but it's all hairy bald dudes with vaginas
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>>6725531

I currently don't have the ability to transition so I'm living as female. I'm not really sure what I wanna do once I finish college and everything though. My gender expression sways so often that it would probably be practical to live as a woman, but I hate that. Yet I don't really wanna live as a guy either. I wanna go on T eventually so I should probably live as a man. If it were up to me I'd live as neither but that's not how life works.

>>6725505

I'm used to people complaining about nonbinary people, especially on this site,
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>>6725531
i think everyday functional androgyny would be pretty hard to maintain unless you got lucky with genetics

people are generally gonna read you as one sex or another, i assume if you're using testosterone in the same way a regular trans guy would, presenting male just takes some of the difficulty out of regular life
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>>6725383
Aren't you a cis chaser? If so I don't know why you're even here, since you claim to be straight.

>>6725354
I don't have any problem with it as long as you don't go "muh gender nihilism, muh transition is useless, muh plant/plant/plantself pronouns".

Actually because I don't feel comfortable with male pronouns before I start HRT, I tell those who ask to use singular they. Maybe I'll keep that up after starting T, maybe not. We'll see.
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>>6725156
This. This is all i need.
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>>6725568

What do you mean "chaser"?
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>>6725576
I mean you want to stick your dick in a ftm, or at least that's the rumor.
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>>6725603
oh don't worry, he wouldn't dare fuck an ftm, swg's only interested in women who dress like men and look androgynous

ain't that right mate?
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>>6725603
>>6725614

On a scale of correct to incorrect

No
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>>6725614
I'm pretty sure he'd give it to anybody.
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>>6725633

I'ma make a man outta you
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>>6725614
Can't fault someone for liking butch women, they're pretty fucking great desu.

Problem comes when you start treating trans men like butch women.

>>6725625
Well, you're a "chaser" in some regard, and you didn't deny you're cis, so my question stands. You here for the shitposting?
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>>6725747

I'm only here for the shitposting. I don't give a shit about fucking you dudes, I have a gf who I'm very much attached to. And no, she has no penis or frankenfanny.
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>>6725751
A butch gf?

If so, I'm jelly.
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>>6725947

She has a tomboy streak for sure.
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>>6725947
Are you straight or bi? If bi you could probably land a pre-transition ftm and carry them over from butch mode to passing. You're going through the same stuff yourself so you'll have a lot in common.
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>new babby tripfag bullying gen regular and friend SWG
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>>6726260
He's not my friend, buddy
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>>6725747

Oh also, to answer your other insinuation, no, I don't see transsexuals as anything other than the gender they identify (of which there are 2), unless they are closeted or deliberately non-passing. The FtMs here are, to me, for all intents and purposes, men. I flirt with people here or whatever because it's funny and jokes, so before you get Tumblr on me, I'm not interested in sticking the tip in your plum pudding.

As a side note: that's why I think pansexuality is bollocks, because it implies trannies are distinct from the gender they present as. https://youtu.be/EActHOQq0bI?t=1m20s
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>>6725354

there's a lot of people who aren't transguys here, no difference if you are... but you're anonymous anyway so why bother saying it?

am i the only one who finds it odd when people out of context announce what they are? everyone's just gonna assume you're a transguy when you post anyway, and unless it's relevant to the conversation i can't imagine why it matters... or why you need permission, if everyone said "nah transguys only" that'd stop you when there's nothing anyone can actually do? i don't get that shit...

>>6726260

acquaintance...
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>>6725354
theres a skype group for enbies, i could add you to it if you wanted
its pretty dead right now though
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>>6725354
> I'm nonbinary?
Curious how do people come to this conclusion? Is it because they don't like certain gender roles? I ask because I've also seen nonbinary people who aren't trans either so, it would seem so.
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I told my mum via text that I'm trans and that I'm going to be starting hormones in a few weeks time and she was fine with it but my step dad just put it on facebook.

>mfw
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why is this the only general on this board that isn't fucking retarded and awful

i'm not even ftm
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>>6726771
What are you?
Gaygens ok.
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>>6726771
This is the only general with men
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>>6726775
i'm bi/failure-at-life male

gaygen is too catty for me
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>>6726789
Are u cute
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>>6726771
because all the pretentious/transtrender/tumblrs ftms stay on tumblr while the more laid back ftms go here.
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>>6726801
not really

plus i need to lose weight
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>>6726694
body dysmorphia
fed up with gender politics and gender roles
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>>6726815
how do you know
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>>6726840
>body dysmorphia
how so
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>>6726841
using my eyes and the divine light of reason

though i think this one black kid in school said that i was cute in a non-gay manner 7-9 years ago and i looked just as shit then as i do now if not more so
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>>6726072
I'm bi, but I don't think I could date a pre-T ftm. I feel happy when I see pictures and hear other people talk about their transitions, however I don't want to be intimately close to that period in someone else's life. I am acquainted/friends with almost a full score of other ftms - commiseration with a platonic distance is sometimes even more than enough.

Also, swg just touched upon it and I've seen other people mention the phenomenon ITT, but there's often ~something~ about pre-T ftms that feels different from butch girls. And sure, the primary suspect is just a mental shift in the perceiver. Then again I got "clocked" as ftm by both close friends and people who didn't know me that well before I was even out to myself. And lesbians don't like me but bi girls do.

>>6726743
I would kill them both and live as an outlaw, but that's just my advice.
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>>6726881
>And lesbians don't like me
Didn't*
(They obviously wouldn't now.)
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Where are the hot guys at?
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>>6726904
In the previous thread.
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>>6726847
not wanting to appear male or female
disgust at secondary sex characteristics
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>>6726694
Know how classic transsexuals have this strong sense of actually being the opposite sex on some level, some people have this about being inbetween or neither

God knows where exactly it comes from, some sort of impostor syndrome or what
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>>6726881
>I would kill them both and live as an outlaw
I don't need this kind of publicity, I just want to live the quiet stealth life.
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>>6726959
It doesn't really meet the diagnostic criteria since BDD is more than just not liking how you look like a lot

Although I have no clue what the internet means by body dysmorphia, maybe it's like casual definition fetish versus medical definition of fetish thing
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>>6726987
its just the same as it is for binary trans people, except instead of wishing you had secondary sex characteristics of the opposite gender, you wish you had a body that was more in between, not distinguishable as either sex
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>>6726997
are you implying that binary trans people have bdd or did you quote a wrong post
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>>6727017
probably a lot of them
i think im just confusing dysphoria and dysmorphia
which i guess are actually different
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>>6726694

Gender has nothing to do with gender roles. I just feel like I shouldn't be seen as male or female. It's hard to explain dysphoria.
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>>6724557
Good luck m8
Summer's officially over for me ..
But with that means going back to campus and the promise you of meeting lots of qts
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>>6726260
Am I bullying him? I didn't mean to. Just shitposting myself, trying to get stories straight.

>>6726072
Bi, probably? This whole trans thing makes it confusing. Also like that other anon said, dealing with my own transition is more than enough to keep my hands full. Hell, I'm having trouble with my current relationship.

>>6726398
Heh. You think I'm in danger of getting all triggered on you? Don't worry about it fampai.

Pansexuality also acknowledges all the special snowflake genders (at worst) and the inbetweeners (at best).

You don't think being between the two is a legitimate way to be?
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>>6724530
Guys are ftms actually more likely to go bald?
This is one factor that would make me seriously consider low-dosing T to try and avoid it.
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>tfw birth name is far too uncomfortably feminine
>tfw surprisingly attached to it

There are just no good names that start with N, period. I'm fucked.
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>>6728198
Norman is a great name that also sounds like normal and I think that's beautiful
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>>6728219
Norman sounds like a tall, lanky, skinny dweeb that has to always have his inhaler handy. My stocky, chubby, manlet ass is none of those things.
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>>6728219
Nathan, Ned, Neil, Nelson, Nicalos, Noah
All of these ^ names sound fine

[spoiler]is your name natalie? :^)[/spoiler]
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>>6728230
Nathan
Ned
Nicolas
Norton (make sure to change your last name to Antivirus)
Nero
Neptunius
Numa Pompilius
Nice-kun
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>>6728271
Guilty as charged.

>>6728275
I can't help but imagine Nero as anything other than a bootleg Neo.

Thanks for the help, guys. I wish names weren't so damn difficult.
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>>6728290
>>6728271
>>6728275
Try Nathan, yeah. It's the masculine version of your birth name, and the most common.

While we're at it, what's a good name that starts with "E" for a skinny awkward fag?
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>>6728311
Elijah.
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>>6728311
Evanescence
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>>6728316
How can you see into my eyes like open doors?
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>>6728316
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>>6728316

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLp4nb6atDE
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>>6728316

well shit... haven't thought about in forever, never cared for them though... the music itself, or the vocalist... i typically don't care for most chick's singing voices, but there's some i love... like mia zapata, but unfortunately the gits don't have a lot music cuz of what happened to her
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>>6728311
Ethan
Edward
Eric
Evan
Eli
Elliot
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>>6728579
You don't even care about the memes?
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>>6728634

i feel like "care" is a really strong word for any meme... at best they're vaguely amusing for a brief period of time
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>>6728683
>not wasting copious amounts of time on the latest and greatest memes

Next you're going to tell me you go outside.
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>>6728697

i do yeah... as much as possible, one of my hobbies is getting high and/or drunk by a river and doing shit like wandering around...
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>>6728311
ebin
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>>6728290

nero just makes me think of my 2nd favourite roman emperor (caligula is my favourite... he was amazing)

>>6725295

do you eat the squirrels you hunt? i've only ever known 2 people who eat squirrels, it never occured to me that people would eat them so i found it pretty mindblowing when i was 22 and met someone who did... people don't eat shit like that in brooklyn so it never even occurred to me that it was a thing
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>>6728634

Memes are all encompasing benevolence
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>>6728745

Any particular reasons why Nero and Caligula are your favourite? Particular when there are more based emperors like Augustus, Caesar, Aurelius and Constantine to choose from
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>>6728752

i appreciate nero's stance on christianity, and i like that caligula was crazy and excessive and inefficient as an emperor (technically nero was largely inefficient too)

i wouldn't say i liked them as leaders cuz nah, but as people i find them both intriguing... and caligula in particular cuz he was crazier, i typically find people like that more interesting than people who did great things, and i find it interesting when people who are terrible at it are in positions of leadership
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>>6728768

+ it's sorta like how i really loved kim jong il...
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>>6728745
Squirrels are delicious. I usually make a stew like coq au vin, with treerats instead of rooster. Highly recommend it.
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>>6728811

what do they taste like? are they comparable to anything more widely eaten?

i'm vegan actually, so i'll never taste it... i'm just curious, i'm pretty partial to foods cooked with wine though...
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>>6728829

It's a rich flavour. I can't compare it to anything vegan since... that's impossible. But it's a rich sort of flavour, depending on how you cook it.
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>>6728829
Red meat similar to grouse but not as dry. Rich and gamey. The flavour depends a lot on what the bastard eats though. If they eat a lot of hazel nuts the flavor is creamy and a bit like coffee, so I like to hunt in hazel woods.
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>>6728861

How about you eat some of dese hazeled nuts
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>>6728870
>>6725400
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>>6728880
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>>6728854

i know what meat tastes like... my family eats it, and i was raised eating it... i chose to be vegetarian cuz i can't enjoy eating meat (not cuz of animal rights or some belief that people shouldn't eat meat though), and i'm vegan (well except honey, but it's easier to just use the term particularly if someone else is feeding me) now cuz when i got sick i ended up with a bunch of food allergies and eggs and dairy fuck me up to a point where it isn't even worth dealing with a bad reaction to have either even in small amounts occasionally... so i could compare it to something i remember, just not anything i would eat...
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>>6728940
Have you tried venison? Gamey meat can't really be compared to anything storebough unfortunately. Sorry about the food allergies. I have IBS, so diet is always an issue for me. I guess I can relate in that manner.
What do you usually eat?
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>>6728861

grouse? i figured it'd be kinda gamey and similar to red meat, just cuz that's what they look like they'd taste like... makes sense that the flavour changes like that though (probably also why they're not eaten at all in nyc cuz they just live off of garbage and things people throw them there) i never really thought about it... that sounds cool though, how long have you been hunting?

i wouldn't personally hunt cuz it's a waste when you don't eat meat... which is how i feel about fishing, but i go on fishing trips fairly often just to get drunk by lakes and rivers and whatnot... never been on a hunting trip though
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>>6728961
Been hunting for a few years. I like the idea of providing for myself, and I don't like the meat industry. Also it teaches me a lot about what I eat. It would be great to be completely self-sufficient some day.
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>>6728958

i have actually... my dad thought it would be a funny joke to feed everyone it as a surprise when i was a kid, he told my mother it was beef and had her make a stew, and then after dinner he announced what we actually ate... wasn't a fan honestly, but the way it tastes was pretty memorable considering...

i have stuff wrong with my intestines too which limits me a bit further sometimes, but i'm pretty used to it at this point and my s/o is a great cook so i don't really have a chance to feel like i'm missing anything... i typically eat a lot of fruit, vegetables, legumes, nuts and seeds, and some grains... i get fucked up reactions to wheat so i can't have bread, which sucked the most to give up honestly, but i've gotten pretty used to that too...

but stuff like pic related (stole the pic from my s/o) that's eggplant with chickpeas, tomatoes, lentils, quinoa etc in between the layers and on top that's toasted oats with idk i think it had black pepper and basil in it... no idea what else... well other than the purple and sweet basil but that's obvious considering they're on top too... it's a pretty typical dinner example though... he always actually plates my food and garnishes it and whatnot
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>>6729013

that's cool... and actually part of why i garden, it's nice being able to just walk outside and grab your own food + there's that weird part of you that feels more fulfilled somehow... i like wandering around and looking for wild food too, get to try shit you wouldn't otherwise... like we had a bunch of daylily buds a little while back, and wineberries, and wild mushrooms etc ... if i ate meat i'd probably be into hunting for the same reason

+ yeah the meat industry is pretty fucked up, not even just to the animals but the workers too, i had seen something a while back about people wearing diapers to work at meat packing places cuz they can't leave their spot for hours on end... and then like the conditions of the food and whatnot (though that's also not why i don't eat meat... as bad as it is...) i find it weird how people focus so hard on the animals and completely ignore the fact that there's humans being treated really poorly by the industry too...
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>>6729026

+ i don't eat meat cuz i don't like touching it (won't cook it either, can't touch it to cook it... especially not raw... i've cooked it once in my life for a cat, and that was like a nightmare, but it was his first day in the house as a kitten and he was scared so i was trying to win him over... it worked), i used to have to cut it into tiny pieces to dissect it and finding any fat or veins made it all inedible... i have a hard time chewing it too, like... i'd obsessively think about how it's flesh is similar to my own since it's an animal, and that'd just be an all consuming repeated thought and about half the time i'd end up spitting it out like "nah can't do this," but i tried to force myself for a while cuz i knew my reasons were mostly weird and ocd related... but it's something i couldn't get past so not eating it at all works out better
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>one of my biggest fears is going to a psych war or a hospital and having them forcibly strip me while I scream at them
>google to see if officers can strip you without consent
>they can
>watch videos of people being sexually violated
I'm angry
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>>6729015
>>6729026
Your s/o sounds like a keeper. S/he obviously cares about you.
Would be nice to have a live in chef. That food looks delicious.

Yeah gardening and gathering is awesome. I have shitloads of raspberries in the garden and woods with blueberries above my house. Some redcurrants too, and a sad tiny cherry tree. I try to gather stuff when I go hunting too, but mushrooms scare me. I managed to poison myself twice on mushrooms because I'm a moron. Other stuff is fine though, and chantarelles.

>people wearing diapers to work
That's insane, but it makes sense when factories only see their workers as part of the machinery. Pushing their boundaries saves pennies, so they will do it unless laws regulate worker's rights. I've heard a similar story about a local slaughterhouse where all the workers were immigrants. The boss forced them to work 48 hour shifts non-stop for shit pay or else they got fired/deported. One guy fell asleep and got his hand mangled in some machine. It got in the news so the workers got compensated, but most situations like that just get covered up.

The fact that they work with processing living creatures makes it that much worse. When I hunt at least I can make sure everything is done properly both in terms of treating the animal right and how the meat is processed. No antibiotics and drugs and stuff is also great. We really have no idea what that stuff will do to people in the long run.
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>>6729108
Do you have pictures of kitter?
You sound really eccentric. Awesome. Considering how you feel about the industry it's not a bad thing that you dislike meat.

>>6729118
Don't trigger yourself dude. Avoid watching that stuff. It only leads to aggro.
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Is any ftm not transitioning? I'm pretty lucky and look andro and get mistake for 'mister' rather than 'misses' in public but I still feel grossed out by my body and do everything I can to hide my chest. But I'm too pussy to do hormones. My breasts are the main source of my dysphoria if I can get rid of those I would be happier.
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>>6729182
How old are you?
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>>6729219

I'm 23
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>>6729226
Twinks don't stay twinks forever. How do you see yourself aging?
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>>6729226
You the latino? Genes say you stay twink forever. You can probably get away with not getting on T as long as you don't get curvyfat.
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>>6729127

he's another transguy, i didn't know that when we first started dating though (i'm bi so i didn't care and he's attractive regardless so that's whatever for me)... i've known him more than half my life, we were best friends and considered each other siblings before we got together... we're technically engaged, but we have been forever and just haven't actually gone through with it, mostly cuz we figure that it doesn't really make any difference we've been together for about 12 years and were friends for longer and we've been through a lot of shit together and all that... so definitely planning on keeping him

it is great yeah... i really fucking appreciate it... i was actually telling him yesterday when he was making a bunch of different kinds of experimental vegan sushi for dinner (it all turned out great btw) that i was lucky getting to eat all the things he cooks... i cook for him and i'll cook for the birds, but i don't typically cook for myself... like i make him breakfast every morning so like he had almond pancakes with a strawberry basil topping and orange honey syrup... and i just decided to eat and was just like "eh grapes work," but he's the same with that cuz when he's feeding himself he'll just eat whatever is easier

we had wineberries all over here, where i used to live there were a bunch of blueberries... we have wild grapes and i have some wine grape vines (they're still young though) in the yard... basil (purple and sweet), cilantro, peppers, peppermint and sweet mint, radishes, scallions (scallions are great cuz you can replant them when you use them and they'll grow back and you can just repeat that for a bit) squash (which is great cuz you can eat the flowers + the squash itself) and idk some other stuff kale and swiss chard and whatnot

i was worried about being poisoned so it took us forever to actually try any wild mushrooms, i was worried that first time, but he was gonna eat it so i figured "why not?"

how sick did you get?
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>>6729341

i think it's funny that people only give a shit about those workers if it's immediate news, otherwise it's whatever... though i suppose part of it is probably a tendency to assume that it's more isolated and not just something that happens throughout

i actually respect that about hunting + like you said with all the shit that's in food if you can do it then you're better off

>>6729147

i don't think i do... i'll have to look, he's my niece's cat now, i don't have him... we just have 3 birds (pic related is gypsy, she's the tamest, but we have 2 budgies too) and a fish...

i got him when i was in my first apartment then a bunch of shit happened he ended up living at my mother's bunch more shit happened and then my s/o and i ended up there... when we left we only took our birds cuz my niece loves him and he had been more of a house cat rather than mine so it seemed more fair to him + he has my bro's cat to chill with and likes the dogs

i'm not really a cat person anyway... i thought i was more of one cuz i grew up with one, but when it comes to the actual care and shit i'm just not good with it... he's happier there anyway there's all these strays where i'm at now and he likes laying around eating grass

i've had people tell me i'm eccentric and whatnot, but idk... i guess it must be true since i hear it often, but everything in my life is ordinary to me including myself so... suppose it's different
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The world according to Milo Stewart, who self-identifies as: A transman, nonbinary, asexual, otherkin, a feminist, and a communist:

- Biological sex is a non-factual, sexist social construct.
- Pride is bad because displaying sexuality might trigger asexuals.
- You can be trans without ever having any dysphoria.
- You can be a transman even if you aren't physically or mentally a male and don't want to be either of those things.
- "He" can be used as a feminine pronoun and "she" can be a masculine person.
- If you don't belong to a certain minority group, you are always discriminatory against it.

Why haven't you killed kit yet?
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>>6729235
idk I never thought about it honestly? Also I'm pretty low on income and doubt I will ever see a doctor to even discuss the possiblity.'

>>6729306
Good guess yeah I am latino. 5'3" and 126lbs.
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>>6729421

>Milo Stewart

This is where that shit goes.
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I know how so many of you are opposed to PIV sex, however... would you be opposed to us guys giving you kisses on your cute little wet boipussies?

Just super curious, I hope that the lot of you respond to this so I can get a good estimate for the IRL.
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>>6729306

which latino?
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>>6729182

i was sorta where you were at a while back... i've always seen top surgery as necessity though since that's the worst for me, like it's not an option it's something that has to be done... with hormones though i wavered back and forth with the idea and mostly just considered a lower dose and not lifelong treatment (the idea of being bald and dickless and 5' tall is just... nope i think i'd feel worse about myself and that it'd intensify dysphoria for me) mostly due to my voice being second worst for me... it's not really high or anything but that doesn't matter

now though i've got all these health issues so i'm not sure hrt is even an option considering the potential side effects in conjunction with having some pretty shit wrong with me that predisposes me to even more health issues to begin with and it's sorta... life might've made that decision for me you know?

ultimately it's about what you can best live with... there isn't one way to handle the shit that's wrong with you or a one size fits all treatment... if you can be comfortable and happy that's what matters... just don't entirely write off something that might help you without careful consideration cuz ultimately hrt + surgery is what typically works the best for transpeople
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>>6729421

a lot of people think stupid shit i don't agree with and i haven't killed any of them... why would i start with someone who isn't even in my vicinity?
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>>6729182

I have heard of people who get surgery but not hormones. It's okay.
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>>6729421
I don't get mad about youtubers and tumblrkin but I can muster a big old sigh, hope that helps

>>6729446
Your phrasing has me dry, but let's say we had chemistry and through communication I was certain you weren't gonna spring a finger on me then yeah give me head.
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>>6729446

i'm fine with anything that feels good... i don't let things like shit that's wrong with me or my feelings get in the way of sex, cuz that'd be pretty pointless as far as i'm concerned...
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>>6728198
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>>6728861
>>6728811
Damn, that sound comfy as fuck. Is autumn prime game season?

You hunt things other than squirrels? I like myself a good venison steak, not that I ever kill anything. My country bumpkin relatives hook me up.
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Did any of you store eggs before hormones? How long can you be on T before that becomes impossible? and finally, does anyone know what the process of removing the eggs from you is? I'm assuming it's not surgery but I don't really know.
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>>6730065
storing eggs involves taking high does of female hormones to induce ovulation. then a procedure is done to retrieve the eggs. i think it involves a needle and it's under local anesthesia.

testosterone doesn't harm your eggs and if you think you can handle the dysphoria, you can go off of T and conceive or get your eggs retrieved so another person can surrogate.
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>>6729147
Where do you live?
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>>6730162
UK

>>6730145
So I can get them retrieved at any point? Also, I thought that T made you completely infertile? But you can still conceive?
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>>6730181
T doesn't make you infertile. There's a small chance, but most trans men who try to conceive are able to do so after they go off of testosterone and ovulation resumes.
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>>6730181
>I thought that T made you completely infertile?

not completely

there's been more than a handful of accidental pregnancies for people on t

so use an iud or diaphragm or whatever if you really into piv
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>>6729446
Not into guys so obviously nope, but with a girl, if I liked her a lot and trusted her then I'd be fine with that
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Why can't I just have a beard. I just want a fucking beard. A real beard, not that glue on shit. And muscles. Why do I have to be 5'5. kms please
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>>6730317
Manlets at the gym are always the most jacked and coolest looking.
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>>6730181
No

>>6730162
Not UK

>>6729993
Autumn is good. The babies have grown up and left home, and the grown ups fatten themselves up on nuts, mushrooms and berries. I find that the meat taste best a few weeks after nut harvests have started because it gives them time to get an extra layer of fat on. It's the fat that gives flavor so it makes a lot of difference.

I've hunted rabbit, wood pidgeon, crow, duck, grouse, mink, martin, snake, fox (normal hunting, not british insane version), crocodile, tropical bats and lizard.

Venison is great. I don't hunt big game because I don't like firearms, and don't want to invest in a big boy hunting bow, but I get venison through contacts like you do. Small game works fine though. I don't really eat a lot of meat.

>>6729341
First time it was really bad. I was on a hunting trip alone and was dead sick for 2 days with vomiting and bloody diarea. Didn't leave camp and had to save water so got really dehydrated. Scared me a lot but after the two days I got better and could get more water.
Second time was stomach problems and no blood, but I got some auditive hallucination, hearing voices plus light flashes so it was probably amanita muscaria from what I gather.

>>6729374
People tend to care more when it gets attention. The reason the meat industry can get away with so much is because they work hard on PR to tone down the processing part. Very few people do research on what happens between happy cow.jpg and cellofane wrapped meat, and think slaughter is just about cutting up the animals. Companies don't even have to label their product with ingredients like meat slurry or pink slime, so consumers are kept in the dark.
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>>6729421
I don't have time to care about how the attention-whores of this generation act up.

Honestly I used to care a lot about what people thought of trans people in general and was embarassed about the social ramificaiton of one of these non-dysphoric, didn't even try to transition, "transman but also nonbinary," transgenders spreading misinformation and people mistaking me for one of them but I realized that most people don't care what transtrenders do/say. Most people really don't care about or notice anything that isn't directly related to them, including knowing anything what transgender people are and are not.

>>6730065
Before I started t my endo asked if I wanted to sell my eggs for money, I said no, I kind of wished I said yes. I really could need the money also I like thinking that there's someone out there who is made out of me (as weird as it sounds). Mostly because I'm a redhead and it makes me sad there's not many of us, it would be awesome if the kid had my hair. I'm never having kids or adopting though so it's too late for now.
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>>6730364
>redhead
LONDON
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>>6730317
How long on T? It takes a while for hair growth.
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>>6730435
>>6724951
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>>6730448
Pre T? Hang with fatties and catch pcos for beard gains.

As for muscles, someone once told me that if you pick heavy things up and put them back down many many times.... muscles happen.
Try that.
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Anyone else suffer from health anxiety when it comes to transitioning? I always hear T will screw with your health and I'm freaked out about surgery.

>try to talk to trans people
>they aren't hypochondriacs and just tell you there's nothing to worry about
>try to talk to hypochondriacs
>be a wuss and avoid said forum without checking in on what people said
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>>6730521
http://www.ftmguide.org/myths.html
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>>6730521
http://www.ftmguide.org/tandhealth.html
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>>6730534

I read that site years ago and it didn't help me much.
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>>6730490
I think I can't just catch pcos but I think I might have it anyways desu, I have a small patch of dark chin hairs.
im too lazy to work out right now but i'll totally do it tomorrow.
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>>6730543
I can't really help you because it scares me too, but I've come to the point where I'm more worried about the damage I'll do to myself if I don't transition. Not going through with it is not really a choice anymore.
Try to see the positive aspects along with the negative ones. Is it worth it to you?
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>>6730521
T will affect your health but not by much if you're healthy. A lot of the scary side effects from t they say is shit like heart attack, strokes, is because your blood gets a little thicker on t, and honestly it doesn't really even matter that much. If you bother to do basic things like exercise and eat vegetables you will still be healthier than the vast majority of the population, fiftey percent of which are naturally "on" testosterone. The other shit is having increased risk of breast and ovarian cancer, which is scary, but you're probably going to get them both removed eventually anyway so by the time you're old enough to get that cancer there'll barely be much cancer risk.
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>>6730585
>and honestly it doesn't really even matter that much
Except it's on top of everything, not as a result of everything. Cis men have a higher risk of cardiovascular disease and we get that risk on top of any risk we get from lifestyle. Also, females are hit harder by lifestyle choices like smoking and drinking, so if you do that on top of switching your system from estrogen to T, you stand at higher risk of fucking your body up than both cis men and women living the same lifestyle.
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>>6730350

that sounds like it was fucking scary as hell... can't imagine being in that situation, especially alone ... that'd probably put me off of mushrooms completely for a bit... like the time i took zoloft by accident and couldn't bring myself to take pills for about a year (long story) ... couldn't say "no" to oxys though and up so that ended that... up until that point i only had access to benzos so it was easier to say "no" ... with opiates though i can't even turn them down

the other time doesn't sound entirely bad... idk sometimes pcp could get me like that with the hearing shit and whatnot, and i did that for like 6-8 months or some shit every day... had some weird highs with that and a lot of throwing up highs too... the light flashes i probably wouldn't notice, get those anyway... but yeah i'd probably experience that and just think that was alright

dumbest nature related shit that ever happened was when my s/o and i felt like making a fire and there was mountain laurel wood in it... the next day we both felt sick and my s/o looked some shit up and we found out that mountain laurel was highly toxic and could easily kill you when inhaled... folk remedy for the poisoning for inhaling the smoke is whiskey... which is actually what we were drinking by the fire... we had decided to binge drink that night too and drank half of one of those giant plastic jugs of cheap whiskey... thought that was kinda funny

i guess maybe i've just had that info thrust at me a lot cuz i've never sought it out and yet i've heard it... hard to give a shit about the meat industry when you don't eat meat you know? unless i guess you're one of those vegans or vegetarians who swore it off cuz of that... idk, i'm high...
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>>6725568
Swg is alright with most people here. Most people in here can take jokes, too.

Even though most people in here probably also believe nonbinary to be bs also, but well.
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>>6730605
So don't smoke or be an alcoholic. I don't know what your problem is. If you're constantly stressing yourself out this much about how t will affect your health it's going to hurt you worse than t ever will just fyi. Stress will literally increase your risk of just about everything.
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>>6730639
> So don't smoke or be an alcoholic.

your advice made me laugh...
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>>6729446
Too dysphoric. You wouldn't even ever see it.
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>>6730639
Not OP and I'm not stressing. It's just important to know the facts and be aware of the risks. I know a lot of transguys have a tendency to do all the macho stuff to show the world they're real men, and that lifestyle can do some real damage. The info needs to be put out there, famalai.
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>men without cocks
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>>6730661
I'm a sickly little guy and T hasn't negatively affected my health in any way, shape or form. I smoke and should probably get a healthier diet. Just as healthy/sickly overall as all the cis people around me.
Don't worry yourself sick, it'll be alright.
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>>6730672
I prefer to keep chickens. Less noise.
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>>6730673
Lifestyle diseases tend to catch up later in life, not in your 20s
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>>6730673

oh i'm not the guy who was talking about being worried... i'm smoking as i write this, and i drink nearly every day so i just found it funny...

i'm not healthy either, nothing related to drugs or alcohol... but yeah...
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>>6730672

that is a better name for the general... female to male sounds dumb as shit to me...
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>I have a small patch of dark chin hairs
Jelly
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>>6730700
do it
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>>6730702
I have PCOS and I have to shave pretty much everyday or I'll grow a neckbeard. Pre everything.
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>>6730711

i don't make these and i never will...
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>>6730722
Jelly has left the stratosphere
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>>6730722
dubs checked. post neckberd pls.
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>>6730613
>(long story)
Post it, brooklynbro
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>>6730811

tell me what i was talking about, and i'll decide whether or not i'm up for it... i already forgot what i wrote and reading something i said already just isn't gonna happen right now
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>>6730805
But I already shaved today. ;-;
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>>6730844
It's the story about Zoloft.
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>>6728198
I have this problem too. Can't think of many masculine/neutral names besides Oliver or Olivier to substitute it.
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>>6730852
post it when it grows back?
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>>6730672
Can we have an "Men with Pussies" edition with some skinny dweeby looking guy surrounded by cats?
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>>6730521
Im a huge hypochondriac, but ive been on T for alnost a year and it has been worth it. Just make sure you get regular bloodtests and take care of yourself. I love you
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>>6730880
Step one. Catch cats.
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https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/ytl/RNFNdwSbjuf-MxY6h_BytGSdSqkINV2M69JDEWiKDbY=?hl=en_GB&authuser=0
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>>6730866

my s/o and i had been smoking dusted weed for... shit... it happened late fall, and my bday was the 2nd time we smoked it i remember cuz the first day had been great and that was a shit birthday mostly... so idk late summer to late fall pretty much all day every day... and we had just finished the last of it and didn't feel like being sober when it wore off, so when we were coming down my s/o suggested we take some xanax, but he grabbed zoloft, and just the pills... the bottles were next to each other in a medicine cabinet in the house (it was a weird terrible living situation) and i remember saying to him that it didn't look like xanax and i knew cuz i'd taken it plenty before that, but he was sure and i was really high figured maybe i was being stupid... so he took it and i took less than he gave me cuz i was unsure of what it was, but i figured there was a chance it was decent anyway...

and well... it was zoloft... and that shit really fucked me up, worst thing i've ever put in my body and i've never been that fucked up from anything before... not even that birthday i mentioned just before with the dusted weed bad high... and that was like clockwork orange style meltdown over a song, bad deja vu, blacking out for a bit etc

the zoloft though... i couldn't sleep, i couldn't eat, i felt numb, and felt like my insides were shaking, it made me feel removed from everything and detached in this way that not even pcp had ever done (but i also used it with weed... though completely unknown amounts honestly and all day every day there were points where i'd smoke it, throw up from it and then smoke it again)... and it was just this really terrifying, empty feeling and up until that point i'd never felt suicidal... but i did while it was in my system, it was all i could think about just to make that feeling stop
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>>6730990

+ so i found out what i took, it was zoloft... and i looked up the negative effects and i had pretty much all of them... found out the half life, and spent 3 days burning myself on a space heater and shit to keep from killing myself cuz i couldn't think straight otherwise

i only hurt myself in ways i wouldn't leave a mark, it's just that i accidentally hurt myself that first day and i found out that the pain made that fucked up feeling go away temporarily... 3 days of just that numbness just wasn't something i could do, so... that was really all i could do to keep myself from losing my shit

and i just didn't even say a word to my s/o i was hiding from him to do it and when he was at school and shit... cuz he wouldn't have handled that well especially cuz he gave it to me...

this chick i knew was great though, she helped me through it constantly checking in on me and shit...

but yeah... after that i couldn't bring myself to take pills for about a year... but then there were free oxys and that was over, once i took those i was just over the pill thing and started taking benzos again occasionally too...
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>>6730661
I don't smoke or drink. Cigarettes taste like shit and I have no strong feelings for or against alcohol, I just don't see the point spending my money on it and I don't like the feeling of being drunk much. I really don't get how it's so impossible for some people to not drink etc.
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>>6730585

I honestly don't want to remove my ovaries. I want to avoid unnecessary surgery and tbqh my ovaries only bother me as long as I menstruate.
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>>6730722

I have PCOS too and it's annoying. I like the body hair but everyone else is all "Girls shouldn't have body hair!" and constantly whine about it.

>>6730672

I don't want one. They're annoying and inconvenient.
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>>6731120
Are you the nonbinary snowflake?
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>>6731132

No.
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>>6731120

>They're annoying and inconvenient

Hell no they aren't
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>>6731158
Are you a nonbinary nonsnowflake?
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>>6731091

you don't get doing something you enjoy as frequently as possible? i enjoy drugs and alcohol... and smoking, it's not really about the taste though cigarettes remind me of black coffee in a way and i drink that every day...
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>>6729015
have a recipe for that thing?
or do i just put all the ingredients on the eggplant and roast it
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>>6731299

no idea, but you could make something similar i'm sure... he cooked the eggplant, filling, and the oat topping separately... then put it together after... idk everything he did or how or all of the things in it... i was fucking around with my guitar while he was cooking, i did see him do that though... usually he just makes things and i don't know what i'm eating 'til it's in front of me though so i'm not very helpful
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>>6731498

+ it definitely had everything i mentioned in the other post though + broccoli was in there forgot about that... but idk what seasonings and such he used or if i remembered everything in there
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is anyone on transdermal T patches?
I need brand name, dosage, if you can.
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Anyone had any luck with minoxidil for a receding hairline? I'm thinking about buying some and it'd be helpful if anyone here was also using it.
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>>6730990
I remember you talking about that Zoloft experience from before. Sounds like a fucking nightmare. I remember I theorized that it may have been serotonin syndrome. Awful, dangerous stuff.
As for Zoloft I'm not gonna say it never helps anyone but almost 6 years later I'm still dealing with physical side effects I got from taking it. Not worth it for me.
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>>6731771

i actually remember that conversation... i'll never know for sure, but you might be right... it was one of the worst things i've ever experienced

what kinda shit did it leave you with?
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>>6731670
>transdermal patches
>literally the worst delivery method available (besides tablets)
Don't do it. They don't stay on and give you inadequate and uneven dosage, get on your clothes and surroundings, can greatly screw over any females or children in your vicinity, not to mention skin irritation and reactions.

-2/10
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>>6731716
I'm using it for beard gains, but not regularly enough to get results. I recommend the fast dry foam. Oh, and T-Gel shampoo on the hairline helps
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Reverse traps make me so fucking hard.
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>>6732620
cis people with dicks make me so fucking hard
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>>6732653
L O N D O N
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>>6732660
wisconsin :^)
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>>6732708
Do you look like a cute boy tho?
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cis gay guy here. i don't see myself as a woman but, i do often wish i had a cunt instead of a cock and i can get legitimately jealous of gay ftms. my messed up testosterone is probably to blame for all of this but, whatever.

so my question is for those of you with cis gay friends, how many have confided in you that they wish they had a vagina?
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>>6732765
I don't know. I'm not one to judge my own looks.
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>>6732909
You belong as the front man for an 80's new wave band
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>>6732957
I honestly can't tell if that's an insult or not.
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>>6732909
hello where are the tits :DDD
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>>6732816
>so my question is for those of you with cis gay friends, how many have confided in you that they wish they had a vagina?

When I was a teenager a gay friend asked if he could have my vagina and we made a pact to swap if science ever got there.
If I have to mention, we were very drunk.
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>>6733007
konnichiwa what is a ebin tits desu
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Did anyone here rename themselves Larry, Scott or Frank ?
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>>6732994
I love new wave music (esp Depeche Mode, Talking Heads, and XTC) and would totally fanboy over you.
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>>6733086
Scott is my second choice, actually.
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>>6733166

Cool whats your first ?

I'm cis fag I just like those names desu
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>>6733220
Spencer. I'm not totally set on it so Scott is still on the cards, I'll actually decide when the time comes to need it.
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>>6732909
Bi cis male here. Id fuck you pretty hard tbqh all memes aside tbqh...
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>>6733357
>Spencer

The mentally handicaped kid at my school growing up was named Spencer if that helps your decision.
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Allright. Who did this?
>>>/fit/38308506
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>>6733404

>26 Trans Guys Who Are Way Too Hot To Handle - BuzzFeed
>www.buzzfeed.com/.../26-trans-guys-who-will-make-you-thirsty
>Feb 3, 2016 - But he's just one of many trans guys to go wild for. Whatever flavor of T you're into, there's a trans guy who's ready to quench your thirst.
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>>6733394
I'll kick his ass and win his name. Easy.
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>Whatever flavor of T you're into, there's a trans guy who's ready to quench your thirst.
I feel bullied desu
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I know most ftms want to get fugged but I want a dominant ftm bf to beat me uo and spit on me and bruise me. I want to submit to his every whim
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>>6733445
Submit pic for further evaluation
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>>6733445
Please be girl
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>>6733444

Quench my thirst, senpai
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How do you guys know you're not just lesbians?
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>>6733751
I like dick.
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>>6730317
iktfb
Not 5'5 but still short (and skinny)
And still no beard. Literally only some neckbeard under the chin. Maybe I'll get some in 2-3 years... I hope, on T for 2 years already
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>>6733756
Jesus christ
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>>6733756
Post leg hairs
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>>6733717
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>>6732533
>tfw will get gel for application on forearms for free through healthcare
>would have to pay up for any other delivery method

I feel like it's taking longer. 5 years and my beard is still 3 month tier. Everything else changed alright, though. Maybe I'm just shit out of luck with hair genetics or something like that.
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>>6732909
You're attractive, even though you seriously look somewhat like Elliot Rodger. Just with a better face overall, especially lips and nose.
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>tfw no FtM bf to hold me down and have his way with me
Would you guys date a trans girl?
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>>6733444
I feel disgusted and misrepresented. But any buzzfeed-tier shit about ftms always disgusts me to no end.
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>>6733445
If you're okay with not being allowed to touch me and being tied up during sex to ensure that you won't, I'll gladly masturbate to beating the shit out of you and sticking various tools in your orifices.
Thing is, don't look like you enjoy it, biggest bonerkill.
And that's why I officially ID as asexual
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>>6733751
I hate pussy, on anyone.
There is nothing about being a woman that I find desireable or even agreeable in any way, shape or form.
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>>6733833
Yes, but I'm >>6733855 , so make of that what you will. I wouldn't want to see your dick either because jelly if you still have it.
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>>6733867
That sounds pretty great desu. I like the idea of that. And there's not much there to be jealous of anyway.
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>>6733902
Next problem is that I'm over in yrop, and probability says you aren't.
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>>6733931
Fuck. Well I tried at least. I hope you find your perfect gf anon
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>>6732549
Why aren't you using it as much as you should to get results?
But thanks for the advice, I'll look into T-Gel especially because it's cheaper, although I thought it was just for dandruff/scalp conditions and not hair regrowth? But if it works for both...
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>>6733785
:^)
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>>6732816
I'm actually surprised by the amount of times I've heard this. Always from more submissive/bottomy dudes, of course.
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>>6731176

Having random erections in public doesn't sound fun.
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>>6734128
It's really not that big of a deal even when it happens

The worst possible outcome is that people notice your boner and unless you're staring intently at a school play it's just a boner
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Did anyone here gain weight when they started T? I'm going to start lifting so I don't become a fatty anyway, but I don't like the idea of that becoming harder with natural T weight gain..
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>>6733833
Fuck yes bby
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>>6734223
I gained none unfortunately. Need to eat more.
I think test may make you want to eat more and hence gain weight but it didn't work for me
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>>6734225
What if I'm not a qt though?
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>>6734238
I doubt it. (^:
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>>6734058
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>>6734256
Pls
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Nonbinary anon here. Is living as a guy as gender role confining as it seems? I'm thinking of trying to pass as a guy but I really like wearing cute unisex stuff. I like pastel colors but I don't wanna get laughed at.
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>>6734287
How's the people in the photos?
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>>6734305
*Who
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>>6734287
i would make u my friend
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>>6734293
How well do you pass already? You're not going to get laughed at for wearing pastel if you look feminine.
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>>6734058
Anon, do you habitually wet your fingers and twirl your leg hair
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>>6734305
The older woman is my grandmother through marriage. She died back in 2012.
>>6734311
I'm a pretty great looking boy, huh.
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>>6734316
I don't need to wet my fingers to do that, but yea I do twirl my leg hair sometimes without thinking
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>>6734287
I find you cute. Cuter than my ex <3
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>>6734337
Thanks <3

Fuck I need a boyfriend.
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Even if I transition I'll never be a real male. I never grew up as a male so I don't think I'll ever truly know what it's like to be one. My female body will always be weaker than a male who matches me in fitness so what's the point. I don't think taking hormones would make me as strong as someone born male and I would probably be too short for the profession I want anyways. The only reason I haven't an hero yet is because I care about my parents too much but once they're dead I plan to.

Honestly I would be willing to trade bodies with any male no matter how ugly they are.
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For anyone who feels brave enough to answer, what's your birth name and your new name?
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>>6734328
It's interesting to me to see people's habits written on them.

>>6734346
You can self-flagellate or you can focus your energies on making the best of your situation.
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>>6734373
Elizabeth, Elijah.
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>>6734373
Kate, Lucas
I know they don't have anything to do with each other, but somehow ever since I pretended to be a boy as a kid I always used Lucas so it seemed like a natural choice. Friends were suggesting me other names as if it was some game but yeah it felt as if I was trying to customize a character instead of just having a name as if it was the one parents gave me
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>>6734344
I'd like to be your bf.
I miss the feeling
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>>6734399
Ok. I'll be your gf.
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>>6734395
>not custom naming yourself Twattycake The Great
Sorry you hate fun
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>>6726694
Not that anon, but maybe I can help explain? I describe myself privately as agender.

I'm dysphoric about my chest, height, and voice, but not other things. My dysphoria about my vagina is weird, in that I don't wish it was a penis (although that would be an infinite improvement) but I definitely wish it wasn't there. I wish it was smooth with nothing there.

Everything in me screams that being female is a mistake. But I don't reeeeally want to be male. I've always wanted to be androgynous, genderless. Ever since I was a kid.

But that's unrealistic, so I tell people I'm a trans dude. And I am planning on top surgery and mones, so if the shoe fits I guess.

Besides, I like the people in ftmg and I don't tend to like other enbies, especially the tumblr transtrender girls. I've found exactly three other tolerable/cool ones, although agender people tend to be on the more normal end of the spectrum. Or maybe that's just because I identify more with them, who knows.

Tl;dr dysphoria says I'm neither, self preservation and common sense mean I say I'm male and work towards that.
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>>6734223
Nah, lost some. It's easy to gain muscle on T though, you'll be fine as long as you don't overeat on a lot of crap food and you exercise.
>>6734346
T mitigates the strength thing, I mean, if you work out regularly at least. How old are you?
And sure, we'll still have always transitioned from female, but you can be male in appearance, and we could have great advancements in SRS in a few decades anyway.
There's a lot worth hanging around for.
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>>6726959
That's dysphoria, not dysmorphia.
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>>6734408
Wanna kik or skype?
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>>6734416
Well, you do fit the DSM-V criteria for gender dysphoria which makes you trans. And you seem pretty chill
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>>6728311
I'm going by Eli. I kinda special snowflaked a little bit and the whole thing is Elias, but if I just go by Eli then no one has to know, right?
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>>6734427
Sure. Kik is Trlizzy. I'll tell you my Skype there.
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>>6734346
Chris Mosier competes with cis men on the national level, there's hope
http://youtu.be/_gq8PO9XK2Y
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>>6734373
Samantha, Samuel
Always have and always will go by Sam.
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>>6734416
Honestly, I'm totally down with there being a third gender.
I just don't believe there's any more than that, especially not infinite amounts of different genders, or if there were they'd go under a third gender label anyway. Unfortunately a lot of non-binary people are the sort of SJW nut cases who do believe in infinite genders.
You're all right though.
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>>6734416

You sound like a lucky fuck considering achieving a penis is like the hardest thing for any transperson to accomplish, whereas everything else on the FtM side of things is easymode compared to MtF.

At least you've still got your height keeping you down (kek) like the rest of us.
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>>6729446
It takes a lot of trust, my girl can give me head but it was always really uncomfortable for me (I used to think I straight up didn't like it) and I've never liked piv sex.
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>>6730435
This. Natal males don't start growing real beards until they're 23-26, that's after like ten years.
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>>6734486
>23-26

Cis male here
Have had one since I was 17.
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>>6734491
You're an outlier. Also post beard.
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>>6734486
Some can some can't, gotta take a look at men in your family to get an idea when you're gonna get one
I know guys who had quite a beard at 18 already but my brothers for example, they never got full beard despite being in their late twenties.
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>>6734486
You're full of shit. Most guys are shaving regularly when they're 19 and 20, or growing moderate beards. I know several people who had a full beard in their mid teens too.
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>>6734419
22 years old, probably too late for me.
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>>6733751
Dysphoria. I like girls and guys, but my body doesn't belong to me.
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>>6733833
As long as you're as cute as me or cuter (pretty damn hard desu)
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>>6733751
Because I want to fuck girls with a dick.
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>>6734551
I posted a picture
>>6734287
You can judge.
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>>6734545
>22
>too late for ftm transition
Christ. You're only getting older.
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>>6734545
Not even. 22 is still a baby.
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>>6733827
shit I thought that people were calling me elliot rodger because I get a bit too angry over being perceived as a woman and said that I would show them that I am male that one time in that old thread lmao.
>>6733389
:^)


I found this pretty old photo, desu I'd still fuck me.
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Does this look like hair loss or just a normal crown?
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>>6734540
Ok? So it takes like 6 years, I'm just going off what I've seen. Still longer than 2 years though.
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>>6734313

I look like a middle school boy but I don't know how I look in bright colors. I want to go on low levels of hormones eventually.
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I'm so glad summer is ending. Summer is just annoying. Autumn is the best. Thanksgiving, cool weather, Halloween, the pretty sights... Summer is especially bad if you're pre-surgery. I don't even try to bind in the summer. Sports bras or out.

>tfw you like wearing plaid shirts because they're baggy and cover your chest
>your family says you look like an immigrant when you wear one

How can I be latino and pull off a plaid shirt?
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>>6734293
I think it depends more than anything on where you live, what kind of crowd you run with, and what you look like.
A measure of confidence is like social insulation. People respect you more if you assume they will.
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>>6734448
I mean, mine is just as impossible to achieve, and if there was a way to get a fully functional dick I'd jump at it. But I definitely do feel lucky in that regard. I kinda got shafted on all the other shit. I was given the perfect female body, and then a brain that just shat all over that gift.

>>6734428
That's why I still consider myself trans, I do have dysphoria and I am going to transition. I just wish there was a way to transition into a perfect androgyne, but being male will have to do.

>>6734447
Honestly, it took me a long time to come to the point where I can actually accept that I'm agender. I always thought that enbies were a meme, until I read some shit by an agender person. I think I was driven away more by the trenders than i believed that nonbinarism was impossible.

I still don't want to be associated with them, so I say I'm a trans dude. And being a dude wouldn't be terrible, I'd be a lot more comfortable with male sex characteristics than female ones.
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>>6734746
>I was given the perfect female body, and then a brain that just shat all over that gift.

You know, it's cool to be alive at the same time as memes and all that shit, but I have to say it bums me the fuck out knowing I'm going to miss out on the era where our brains are just hard drives and we can upload ourselves to whatever body we want and trade with each other. You know it's coming some day.
Maybe if we're really lucky, advanced aliens will catch us up. Or maybe we're all a simulation, and we'll discover the cheat codes.
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Man, /lit/ doesn't even talk about books. It's just philosophy stuff. That reminds me, see any good ftm characters lately?
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>>6734287
Oh, i thought you were a pre-t ftm when I saw this picture, you pass pretty well
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>>6734924
I think mtf gen can help you
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>>6734924
this is /ftmg/, not /mtfg/
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>>6734934
SHIT, I DID IT AGAIN. I'm so retarded, this is the second time I went into ftmg instead of mtfg. Sorry, lads. Gb.
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>>6734950
Fruedian slip?
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>>6734889
No, there are plenty of books with mtf characters though. Invisibility's a bitch sometimes.
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>>6735058

I know more ftm books than mtf ones. The mtf ones are autobiographical. Though I know more mtf children's picture books than ftm ones.
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>>6735125
There is childrens mtf books?
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>>6734373
Emma, named after my great grandmother. Thinking about renaming myself Edwin (my great grandfather's name), Eliot, or Emmett (strongly favoring that one).

I've always gone by my unisex middle name though.

>>6728314
>>6728624
Thanks bros, unsure about most of these but I'll try.

>>6734429
Eli works, yeah. Elias is weird, but you can rock it if you pass.
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>>6734429
Hi mom
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>>6735125
Turns out you're the one with the knowledge. Recommend/name drop some relevant books, familia.
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>>6735125
Really? All I could find in terms of ftm literature were autobiographies. Like the other anon said, drop some books on me. I feel really alone sometimes.
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>>6735130

1000 Dresses and that Jazz book come to mind. I have seen others as well. They are books for trans children.
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>>6735179
>Tranny books

Wew lad
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>>6735147
I was gonna go Elijah, but the one person who kept asking if I was still going by Elizabeth/female names was named Elijah so I'd feel kinda weird going "well actually, funny story, now our names are the same, surprise!" I figure I just won't tell anyone my full name unless they ask.

Actually, can anyone come up with some good S names that aren't Scott? I wanna keep my initials the same. They were the only thing I've ever really liked about my name.

>>6735150
Christ, I hope not. I have pregnancy nightmares.
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>>6735190
People have the same names all the time, but it's your decision.

What's your personality first?
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>>6735175

I've only read Parrotfish and I Am J. I know some others exist though (like Beautiful Music For Ugly Children). You can find them on Amazon or GoodReads
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>>6735204
>Beautiful Music For Ugly Children

Sounds like an interesting book even if it wasn't for us trannies.
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>>6735190
Samuel
Samson
Sean/Shawn/Shaun
Steve/Steven/Stephan
Simon
Shane
Stan/Stanly
Stewart/Stuart

Post ethnicity or pick family name for middle
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>work at pizza place
>have birth name on the schedule
>also they mispelled my last name
>everyone gendering me wrong

>eventually ask two managers to change it (I know they have the power to)
>the first one forgot or something, the second one was right on it
>go home, see name change on website, have last name correctly spelled, be happy

>go into work the next day
>still on the schedule as Emma
>wut?
>log into website
>name has reverted to its incorrect form

I hate the labor force and I hate HotSchedules.
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>>6735190
Guess you won't post personality. Then:
Seth
Stephen/Steven
Saul
Sergio
Shiloh
Solomon
Sawyer
Sanford
Seymour
Schuyler (had a friend change his name to this, went by Schuy for short)
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>>6735125
recs?
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Anyone know good germanic names on A

>>6735147
Emmett is probably your best choice considering how close it is to your birthname. It also sounds good and strong.
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While we're talking about names, is Jaymes too obvious? I want a double barrel name so ___ Jaymes, but I know a lot of trans guys pick something along the lines of Jay.
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>>6735319
>germanic names on A

...Really, anon? Hm, what's a good Germanic name that starts with A... Gee, I just can't think of one...
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>>6735347
>Jaymes

Don't be a snowflake, just make it James. That's a good name.
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>>6735347
Yes, it is. If I met you and you had that terrible name, I'd think it was really unfortunate and feel sorry for you. Just go by James.

>>6735319
That's exactly why I like it. It's close enough to still honor my grandmother, but it's a sturdy, masculine name.

Adolf (Hitler)
Adolphus
Albert
Aldric
Aldo
Alphonse
Alwin
Anso/Hans
Arnold
Admund
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>>6730521

Yes famalam. This is why I have avoided transition for so long. ;( I get scared something terrible will happen. I know its not logical but meh
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>>6735363
Oops kek. Didn't even notice that. Is it better if I say viking names or some shit?

>>6735408
>Aldric
Aaaaldrin
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaldrin!
Where is he?
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>>6734699

Normal crown
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I only browse these threads because I look like a FtM

Who else here isn't actually FtM?
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>>6735466

Fun fact:

Macho Man Randy Savage was actually an FtM who went into overdose of T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4lK41SX-Q
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>>6735440
He was within you the entire time.

(In bed.)
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>>6735475
the CREAM Ohyea
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>>6735288
Sorry mate, I don't check back too often. I'm like... A cross between an early 2000s emo kid and a sweaty neckbeard, except I look like an ayyden.

I could do Stephen, I was kinda thinking of Seth. I feel like S names don't really work with Elias though. Should I just give it up? Or should I go by Elijah?
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>>6733819

Gel taking longer is just a meme. You're unlucky in the beard category, is all.
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>>6735440
Ari
Amund
Axel/Aksel
Audun (same name as Edwin btw, smelly)
Alfred
Arvid
Anton
Arthur
Ask (Same name as Ash I think)
Aslak
Asgeir

>>6735408
>Hans
The way English speakers pronounce this is particularly awful. Haaawnz.
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>>6734373
My first and middle:

>then
Alicia Marie
>now
Thomas Elliott
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>>6735536

It's pronounced like hands minus the d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlxLXEa5dE
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>>6735614
I have been unfortunate then. I used to try out random names while traveling abroad because the stakes were so low. Did not land on Hans even though it is one of my favourites. It's a total grandpa name which suits my dad ass personality.
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>>6735536
Thanks, daddy
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>>6735614
Hate to tell you but that clip pronounced it as hawnz too
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>>6735536
Audun? Interesting.

You German, anon?

>>6735475
UNJUSTIFIABLY IN A POSITION THAT I'D RATHER NOT BE IN,
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>>6733819
>Maybe I'm just shit out of luck with hair genetics or something like that.
Afraid so. I've been on gel for 3 years less than you and my beard is already completely connected around the jaw and also up my face. You can try minoxidil though.
Curious how is your hairline after 5 years?
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>>6735635
You're welcome. I'm making fish burgers for dinner, how spicy should I make yours? Also you need to feed the cats.

>>6735645
No, even colder.
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>>6735677
>having a full beard
Christ, I'm jelly. Soon enough I'll be on mones but it doesn't feel soon enough.

>>6735680
Scandinavia, then?

>>6735533
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias#People_with_the_given_name_Elias
Couple of famous people with the same situation, shouldn't be too awkward. And Elias is a legit name rather than some variation you coined yourself -- you should be fine, do what you like.
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>>6735715
Norway, yeah, I didn't mean to be coy.
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>>6735347

The only adult Jaymes I know is Jaymes Young. If you were a child it would be alright, however spelling James as 'Jaymes' likely wasn't popular when you were born.

>>6735466

I'm nonbinary. There's no use in making a nonbinary gen. It's been tried and they either die or they're 98% people complaining. Plus ftmg is nice enough.
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>>6735736
That's where I got the name from. I'm 20.
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>>6735736
>nonbinary
oh so you're a trender
>>6735347
Jaymes is retarded, you're trying too hard to be unique. Just go with James.
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>>6735726
How is it? You said you've been abroad -- where, and what did you think of each place? I'm curious.

>>6735736
There's not enough, an especially rare breed.
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>>6735755
Be nice to it. Having a pet snowflake is fun. we can dress it up in chicken costumes :D
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>>6735726
You on T yet?
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>>6735765
>>6735755
There's literally an enby up in the thread that y'all said was fine. I assume the majority of 4chan enbies are like that. The snowflake/trenders stay in their 'safe spaces.'
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>>6735765
>>6735755
Not a snowflake. I just like the way it's spelt, but don't want to come across as a trender... Guess I'm going with something else then. :')
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>>6735814
You're not the same snowflake? There are two snowflakes?
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>>6735842
The /lgbt/ enby skype group has at least 12 in it. Like an anon said, it's pretty dead right now.

Whether all of them are in /ftmg/ is another matter.
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>>6735859
Oh ok.
>>6735832
You can stay if you want, chicken anon, just don't act like a faggot
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>>6735755

I realized I was nonbinary like six years ago.

>>6735536

I know of two ways to pronounce Hans. Hands or Ha-awns (like in Frozen).
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>>6735761
As a kid I went to a couple of the gross places rich Norwegian pensioners invade in Spain and Greece, by the grace of my grandma. That sucked because my grandma is awful.
I've been to London with family, where strangers were particularly accommodating to tourists. The food was good.
I was in NYC (because my friend's mother is a flight attendant) when we were too young to do anything fun. Lots of cool art though.
Did a very brief sweep through Italy which was cool but touristy, took a boat to Croatia (the safety instruction video was like watching Tim & Eric) and depending on the place Croatia was both the most offensively ugly and breathtakingly beautiful country I have seen.
Iceland is windy, pretty and well-dressed. Rode their weird horses. A guy misstepped and boiled his foot a little. Spotted performance artists in the streets of Reykjavik on two different occasions.
When I was 13 I spent a week in a small town in the very northmost tip of Portugal. EVERY SINGLE CAT stopped to stare. What the fuck.
I've been to Germany a bunch of times, most of them relating to school in different ways. Seen art, concentration camps, music, plus typical tourist stuff. Their cities are cleaner than ours. Other than that it feels similar to home, but with less of the nouveau riche energy.
I've been to a couple more places but I'm getting woozy - it's late over here.
Have you traveled any? You're American right? If I go to the US again I want to go on a road trip. I can't drive, though, and I'm saving for private surgery so no more travelling unless it's like a day trip to Sweden.

>>6735799
Why do you ask me in particular? This time I do mean to be coy.
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>>6733751
I don't want to fuck people.
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>>6735994
I'm asking because the Norwegian system is notoriously shit. I think around 80% gets rejected for hrt, or maybe that was before GID changed? How are things now?
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My favorite thing about being trans is having my mom say things like
>ya know what, i'm pretty masculine, maybe i'm trans
or
>if i was born at a later date I probably would have been trans
Bullshit. You read shitty romance books, cry about everything, and love to do crafts. Just because you watch football every once in a while doesn't mean you're male.
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>>6736047
My cis male buddy do all those things except watch football
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>>6735842
I'm not nonbinary. That guy(?) literally said "not that anon, but..." So yes, two enbies. Good job. You're the best at counting.
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>>6736072
Yes, I'm sure he's gay. And that's not the point of the story.
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>>6736026
Yep. Public is absolutely bullshit, but recovering. I go private (my diagnosis is "low testosterone" kek) and pay about $50 a month for T gel.
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>>6733751
I like cis men and transgirls sexually but just cis men emotionally.
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>>6736081
Being male has nothing to do with meme macho actions. Being a transman has nothing to do with pretending to be a stereotype Joe Beerbelly
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>>6736114
Again, not the point
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>>6735994
I'm American, yeah. I live in North Texas, near the state's giant cities of industry. Around it there's a sea of suburbs that takes four or five hours to drive through end to end. Unlike the Southeast (and also the Northeast I assume), everything's more spaced out. The roads here are wide with six lanes each way and two lane shoulders, the architecture is huge and spread out really far apart, industrial lots stretch for miles.

Everything in the East is way more condensed. It struck me I went to Mississippi and Tennessee to visit family. It's lusher and rainier there, with more historic places and a richer tradition. Here we bulldoze over everything and try setting up suburbs/tech development districts, there they focus more on culture and art.

I've also visited New Mexico and Calorado, which are similarly stretched out (there's huge amounts of farmland/nothing but fenced-off wilderness for miles) but also less humid, hot, and industrial. I like the scenery out there a bit better, there's an emphasis on liberalism, environmentalism, and conservation, which can be obnoxious but is ultimately a plus for me (it sure beats the Bible belt). You can actually enjoy some of the areas there without having heat stroke, unlike here. I'm thinking about moving once I get enough money saved up, after I finish uni and transition.

Finally I've been to Mexico, but I was really young so I don't remember anything except stinging my eyes in the seawater.
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>>6736083
Jelly. How to private, senpai? I'm starting the GID meme in september, but I'm not having high hopes about it.
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>>6736128
Go watch football Ayden. Grown ups are talking.
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>>6736150
n-no
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>>6736161
This is what happens when you stay up past your bedtime. Do you want some milk and cookies?
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>>6736185
only if it's chocolate milk
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>>6736185

Can I get in on that shit too
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>>6736207
Here you go.
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>>6736195
How else to mask the roofie flavor :)
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My future wife is a med student, does that mean I'm going to be living the easy mode of the easy mode?
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>>6736047

Your mom is certainly cis, but men can do all that too.
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>>6736248
I thought bodybuilder spouse was the easy/easy mode? Access to T and all?
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>>6736226

yum yum
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>>6736266
No because then they would either be male or an uggo steroided woman.

Besides, why would I want shitty body builder steroids when I can get good clean test straight from my wife?
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>>6736359
It's not easy to skim test through a hospital my man, even if your wife got a specialization giving her direct access.
Also not worth risking her career for it. Shame on you.

>uggo steroided woman
Bad taste detected
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New thread >>6736494
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>>6736499

>constant need for validation
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>>6736516
>what is voice dysphoria?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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