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>ultra right wing, traditionalist, reactionary european nationalist

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>ultra right wing, traditionalist, reactionary european nationalist

>[spoiler]have a trap/trans fetish and correspond/flirt with a mildly notable trans youtuber[/spoiler]

JUST END MY LIFE.

I came here from /pol/- convince me why I should accept sexual/gender deviance
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>>6716329
coz that's what you are
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>>6716348
I'm of the opinion that urges (on the collective level) need to be suppressed for a society to maintain order. This applies to me.

I actually would be fine with gays as long as they did it behind closed doors and it was a social taboo.
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>>6716363
Already doing that. I'm also aware that 96% of transexuals will never pass.

I also think if you can't pass, you shouldn't transition.
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>>6716382
I would never consider marrying a trap. I would like to pass on my genetics.
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>>6716329
Depends on the tranny, a small proportion are in fact TrueTrans, I.e. psychologically intersex. These trannies are women for all intents and purposes, with the caveat of not being able to produce white babies and being perhaps uglier than most cis women. For sexing purpose, an SRS pussy is indistinguishable from a cis one.
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>>6716391
What about your genetics make them worthy to be passed on?

hint: race cannot be the singular factor.
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I love when evil people like you have rightly deserved miserable lives
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same anon
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>>6716329
> Conservative asshat secretly loves dick

What else is new?
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You yourself are probably a repressed tranny, which manifests as your so-called "fetish"
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>>6716329
Ernst Röhm was gay. You could be all that silly far right stuff and just make room in your belief system for gay people like you. Do LGBT people really have to be your enemy?
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If it's cute, fuck it.

There is no gay.
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First, you should accept it because it will make you, personally, happier. If you chat up or fuck a transgendered person, that's part of who you are. It's certainly not ALL you are, and it doesn't erase any other part of you, but it is still a part you should acknowledge. Feeling guilt or shame about who you wanna fuck is gonna drive you absolutely insane after a while.
Second, you should accept it because people (who are able to give consent) fucking each other has never hurt anyone. People banging others of the same sex or gender won't hurt you, or society. Gays and Transgendered people are gonna continue to exist and bang others until the end of time, so the only way for their "perversions" to hurt society is if society is intolerant and throws a childish tantrum over not being able to control people who aren't hurting anyone. If you want shit to be safe and stable, then cease to give a fuck about this particular issue and encourage others to do the same.
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>>6716399
I'm six feet tall, attractive, and I have a high IQ

I'm also nordic (kinda don't want us to go extinct.

>>6716408
>Evil

LOL. I used to be a leftist, don't make that mistake.

>>6716420
Heh

>>6716475
I doubt it. I'm a pretty honest guy.

>>6716486
They aren't my primary enemy (or even my enemy at all) We have much bigger issues to face.
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>>6716329
it feels good and life is too short and brutal not to get at least some enjoyment from it
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>>6716393
I'm aware. Some of this MUST be socialization. There is no way Chris Chan is really a woman.

>>6716420
I should also mention that it's not dick girls I'm attracted to. I'm disgusted by traps with large genitalia (and it's not penis envy)

And it's not all traps, especially the vapid ones, I think (especially in the case of this individual) I'm attracted to "her" rather masculine mindset.


>>6716408
I should also mention my life is pretty cool besides this.

>>6716578
I think guilt is somewhat necessary in society to keep people in line.

I'm not saying that lgbtism causes civilization to collapse, but sexual depravity and decadence correlate with decline.

And promiscuity is harmful to society.
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>>6716621
I would happen to disagree. One should exercise self restraint.
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>>6716329
>ultra right wing, traditionalist, reactionary european nationalist

You really just hitch yourself to any bandwagon that gives you attention don't you?
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>>6716631
Guilt, especially mass guilt, or more likely to cause people to act out than keep them in line. Feeling like a bad person rarely makes people act like good people. More often than not they just think "Well I'm already a piece of shit, I got nothing left to lose!"
And you're automatically assuming that lgbtism is a form a sexual depravity. It's not. Fucking a horse is sexual depravity. Fucking a child is sexual depravity. Two adults fucking in the privacy of their own homes has never been, and will never be, any different between straight people and gay people. The only difference is body parts, and that's entirely irrelevant to anyone not in that room. From a detached, clinical perspective, matching genitals has no correlation to any kind of societal decline.
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>>6716647
There are far better ways to attentionwhore.


I'm not even THAT radical desu.

And chalking up my whole worldview to attentionwhoring is pretty insulting/intellectually disingenuous.
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>>6716408
>Evil
Do you know what website you're using right now?
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Blaire White has a boyfriend, buckaroo.
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>>6716644
I imagine you exercise restraint in other aspects of your life, correct? In your professional life, in your relationships with friends and family, the way you manage finances, etc.? You can exercise that same level of discipline in the context of a relationship, sexual or otherwise, with a transgendered person. If you don't want to be promiscuous, you don't have to be. If you don't want to indulge in anything too "kinky," nobody is forcing you to. Nobody can run your life but you, and if discipline is how you live your life fully, then don't compromise that. But self-restraint and dating/sleeping with a transgendered person are NOT mutually exclusive. Just do so on your own terms and define the rules and boundaries for yourself, and you can proudly say that you managed to maintain your integrity amidst getting your kicks.
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>>6716665
Guilt keeps me in line desu.

All these fat sjw hambeasts are the way they are because we can't tell them to loose weight.

I used to be quite chubby as a child and that guilt keeps me in shape today.

Just a question- I'm sorry if it seems a bit underhanded or jewish-

Is it depraved to let your sister give you a blowjob?

Is consensual homosexual incest at an adult age degenerate?

I think some things are inherently decadent.
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>>6716329
I'm a far right nationalist too, but I did become much happier after I accepted my own bisexuality. I realized I was playing to some sort of hyper-masculine facade even though I was really not cut out for it, and embracing my own character away from the ideologies I follow helped me come to terms with it.

If you can't think of arguments to convince yourself that sexual/gender deviance is inherently bad (yeah, slutting it up is unhealthy, but straight people do that too), then I'd recommend giving it up. Just months ago, I was intensely homophobic and transphobic, and I wouldn't have met my current trans girlfriend if I hadn't opened up in that way.
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>>6716689
No, not Blair White. The person in question only has a few thousand subs. Not a ton, but "her" channel is experiencing exponential growth.

And by the way, I just don't find myself attracted to "her". "She" just seems so.. plastic..
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>>6716718
Just have white kids, m8
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>>6716729
I would have loved to have white kids, I personally wouldn't ever racemix, but right now I've had to come to terms that the current girl I love can't do that.
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>>6716737
So adopt white kids. Or hire a surrogate for your white babies in the future. If you actually love her, then you need to get over yourself and go to her.
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>>6716720
Link? I want to want more right wing trans women. It makes me feel less isolated among the left wing majority.
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>>6716703
Guilt didn't make you lose weight. You're desire to be a badass did. Your motivation was your own.

As for the incest thing, it's "decadent" in the sense that feeling sexual desire for someone you were raised with is usually a sign of mental illness, because there are complex but well understood psychological failsafes we develop growing up to prevent inbreeding, so if those failsafes are failing, then usually something is wrong. It doesn't make them "bad," just in need of therapy.

A transgendered person is just a person like any other, who had the rotten luck of having a body that didn't match their ideas of who they were as individuals. They're not bad. They're not even mentally ill. And you're not bad or mentally ill for your attraction to them. Again, sex between consenting adults never hurts. It's the constructs and stories we build up around it that fucks with people. If you didn't have any preconceived notions of what sex or attraction should or shouldn't be, then you'd be nailing some cute trans-girl right about now instead of posting on 4chan, and neither you nor your community would be any worse for it.
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>>6716774
"She's" not right wing at all- apolitical. I've told "her" about some of my views, albeit in a very mild and diluted way.

Anyway- I'm curious about the political leanings of this board. Can you give me a summation?
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>>6716791
All over the map but the general consensus is SJW suck and hijack our existence for thei agenda.

I'm a libertarian trap.
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>>6716802
This, I'm a libertarian trans woman.
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>>6716804
>>6716802
These. I'm also a libertarian transgirl but I'm more left leaning.
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>>6716791
Bisexual male libertarian.

>>6716802
>>6716804
>>6716814
Damn, didn't suspect there would be so many fellow freedom lovers here, lol.
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>>6716828
Yeah, I like shooting guns and hate paying taxes (especially since my state has one of the highest tax rates in the nation and yet somehow still has massive debt, crumbling infrastructure, underpaid firefighters despite being a high fire risk state, and in my personal experience shit funding for education and mismanagement of the limited funds allocated to education). People are fucking nuts.
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>>6716802
>>6716804
>>6716814
>>6716828
Smh @ all these libertarian libertines
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>>6716828
Lol really? We just want people to get off our fucking backs and let us pursue our life, liberty, and happiness. I find a lot of trans people are libertarian in some way. Left or right, the common thread is anti authoritarianism.

I've got a tranny Gadsden flag.
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>>6716860
Where did you buy a tranny Gadsden? I've seen rainbow ones, but not trans ones.
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>>6716853
I live in Arizona, which is a bit of a mixed bag. Loose gun laws, alright (well, tolerable at least) taxes, and low union presence. But the tradeoff is that our education is fucking awful, and everyone here is borderline retarded because of it. We keep switching back and forth with Nevada for being 50th out of 50 in terms of education. Plus we're a border state, so everyone gets HUGELY up in arms about it, one way or the other.

>>6716860
You sound awesome lol. Most of the people I know in the lgbt community aren't just left-wing, but SUPER left wing, so when they find out I'm anything other than a hardcore socialist, I get ostracized. It's bad enough that I get shit for being bi because a lot of gays assume I still have "one foot in the closet." Although I do find trans people to be more accepting, especially the one trans girl I dated. She was cool as fuck.
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>>6716885
I personally support responsible labor unions (i.e. the ones that only prevent abuse of workers, not the shit ones that keep lazy fucks on the job) and come a long line of union workers, but yeah, otherwise you and I seem pretty damn similar.
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>>6716720

Are you saying you're unattracted to Blaire or the girl you mentioned in the OP?
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>>6716897
Blaire white. Something about her...
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>>6716703
>Is it depraved to let your sister give you a blowjob?

>Is consensual homosexual incest at an adult age degenerate?

Lmao such spooks
Why are you so much against individual freedom? Do you think we should collectivize the means of production too?
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>>6716893
Actually we're pretty similar when in comes to unions, too. They're not bad in theory, but nowadays they're crooked and promote laziness more than safe work practices. I worked in the film industry for 3 years, and can personally attest that film unions are, in fact, the devil. You can't unplug a fucking spotlight unless you contact a union representative first.
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>>6716866
I made it myself. I painted it and detailed it. You may have just given me a good product to sell.

>>6716885
Yeah I can see that. I personally think social conservativism is absolutely bunk, so I find myself slightly left of center.
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>>6716904

I agree. I think her skin is too shiny or something.
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>>6716917
Yeah, same. A bunch of my family are schoolteachers and I can say from talking to them and from personal experience that teachers' unions are generally great and do what unions are supposed to do, but that janitors' and bus drivers' unions keep lazy shitstains on the job and make it harder for teachers. I worked in a cannery as a teen and young adult, and I have to say, it was pretty damn similar.
>>6716920
I would buy a screenprinting tranny Gadsden.
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>>6716912
The power of the state and societal standards/rules are completely different things.

One can be EXTREMELY culturally conservative and still be anti-statist

See Stefan Molyneux.
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>>6716948
It's such an oxymoron though. Social conservativism is cancer because it is anti-liberty. What's the point in being anti-statist if you still want to control what people do who think differently than you.

It's morality policing and many of them even want state-enforced social conservativism.
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>>6716948
Stefan Molyneux is a fucking moron, though.
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>>6716962
2:06
https://youtu.be/9hwTauitjDI

I don't want to live in a society wherein the ultimate goal is "personal liberty"

Societal norms and social pressure are that glue that holds (or held) society together.

>>6716984
He's a bit obtuse at times, and often a bit whacky, but one simply cannot deny his intelligence.
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>>6716962
Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions.
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>>6717000
Yeah, I agree. I don't think he's an idiot (English is not my first language, I thought moron was like somebody who acted like an asshole and did stupid shit, not necessarily a stupid person?). Still, I think he is a moron with the definition I gave above, if that makes sense.
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>>6716688
A website that got invaded by people like you five years ago and is only slowly reovering
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>>6717013
He fits under that definition

https://youtu.be/8CM_--di7L8
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>>6717019
>quoting an autist who couldn't even go to the train without getting lost, whose wife had to be a full time minder, and whose best argument for faith is equivocation
k
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>>6717030
>4chan has always been a bastion of tolerance and respect.

No. it's a place for rebellious outcasts, regardless of ideology

Also


>right wingers
>evil
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lmao, god i love it when white people act like their oppressed.
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>>6717041
>lmao, god i love it when kulaks act like their oppressed.

>lmao, god i love it when the tsar acts like he's oppressed.

>lmao, god i love it when the tutsis acts like their oppressed.

>lmao, god i love it when the French nobility acts like their oppressed.

FIFY
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>>6717040
>implying you're rebellious or an outcast because you throw a few slurs on a turkmeni horseback glassblowing billboard
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>>6717057
>implying the tsar or the nobs were oppressed
kys
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>>6717106
>implying 4chan hasn't always had an anti-authoritarian streak.
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>>6717116
Did her "privilege" save her?
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go fuck a woman and have a kid then fuck traps the rest of your life if you're that much of a stickler for traditionalism


but the fact you're on this website to begin with suggests to me your genes and bloodline were never worth preserving
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>>6717012

I can have strong convictions without imposing my sense of morality on others. Other people are sentient, autonomous creatures that should be able to interact with the world as they see fit if not harming others.

>>6717000
>Societal norms and social pressure are that glue that holds (or held) society together.

I don't agree with this at all. Norms and social pressures are just another form of subjective superior moral authority trying to control others. You seem like a holohoaxer. Who sets these norms and standards and how do we know they are just, moral, and the correct position?

Keep goosestepping blindly only to bend the knee and lick the boot.
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>>6717195
I should add, I mention the holohoax thing because /pol/acks often complain societal standards and norms make it impossible to learn the truth about the holocaust.

Just a clear example of societal standards and norms not always being correct.

Isn't that essentially SJW-tier? Where you shame and stigmatize people into behaving or filtering their beliefs? How are social conservatives any different from SJWs? Stop imposing your subjective sense of right on other people that are not violating any laws or directly harming others.
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>>6717188
Many people here are fucked up in some way or another, but the majority of people here are, in general, of above average intelligence.

>>6717195
If your convictions were strong enough, you would judge others and impose your standards upon them

God. Do you know how often I've heard the argument "it's okay because it doesn't hurt anyone?"

Do you actually believe that drivel?

Only violence is immoral?

You're a caricature.

https://youtu.be/AG1w0eY37ag

1:20

To whom do you think I'm kowtowing?

God? The church? I am an atheist (regrettably)

Society? The media and zeitgeist is zooming leftwards.

I'm not a sycophant. There are no boots left to lick..
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>>6717210
Sometimes societal standards are wrong and one should rebel.

That doesn't mean you MUST be anti-authority all the time.

>subjective morality
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>>6717210
>>6717195
I apologize if I'm coming off as extremely antagonistic. It's just that I used to have those same old opinions and I'm bored of listening to them.

I'm tired of all this tactical nihilism and hyper-individualism. It simply won't work on a mass level.

Sure. It's rational, but do we actually practice what we preach? Do we actually believe what we say in our hearts?
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>>6717263
There's a difference between what convictions people hold, such as what actions actually surpass a threshold of societal damage that requires active suppression. We tend to think that sexual orientation does not deserve such scrutiny, or at least not some manifestations (monogamous and consensual relationships with adoption, for example).

Really your sense of what are reasonable societal demands is totally arbitrary, and so is the amount of action you would like to take, whether it be in the form government enforcement or just social ostracization.
Having good genes does not obligate one to have children, and having bad ones does not obligate sterility, even if that could have objectively positive effects in the long run.
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>>6717274
I'm not anti authority at all times. I'm anti authority if its coming from someones personal opinion. I obey the authority from the rule of law as I have entered a social contract with society to do so and agree with the majority of the rules.

Social conservatives would love to embed their own subjective sense of right and wrong deep into the civil law which effectively destroys personal freedom.

>>6717263
The argument isn't, "all things are okay if they don't hurt someone" it's more like, it's not your fucking business.

>If your convictions were strong enough, you would judge others and impose your standards upon them

Uh no, I put my convictions at the center of MY life. It's not my job or right to try and police what others feel and think based on my internal sense of right, wrong, and correct.
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>>6717263
>>6717274
>>6717291

This is literally 100% what social justice warriors feel and do, but only from the leftist angle instead of right.

Social conservatives are the SJW of the right.

They can both go fuck off.
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>>6716647
If OP wanted attention he would simply declare hirself a skilletsexual foxkin trans attack helicopter
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>>6717302
>>6717307
Everything all of you say makes perfect sense. I completely understand from a rational point of view.

An intelligent brain is a breeding ground for nihilism, atheism, hedonism, moral subjectivism, materialism, hyper-individualism and an aversion to identity and the transcendent.

I think you're all too smart for your own good.

This ideal world you envision would be one of chaos and destruction. Most people wouldn't posess the ability to control themselves in a world devoid of standards and morality.

I agree with you, but if the masses agreed with you as well, society would collapse.
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>>6716329
If alternative sexual/gender orientations were mental illnesses, they would likely have some degree of negative effect on the individual psychologically, yet the only part of being lgbt that has a negative psychological effect is homo/transphobic harassment.
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>tfw no polgbt posters itt
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>>6716371
>lawful evil
Get out
Neutral good and chaotic neutral are objectively the best.
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>>6716791
I prefer National Socialism, but not the degenerate skinhead kind.
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>>6716329
Just be like all the other conservatives and repress your urges
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>>6716371
I'd be perfectly fine with this if people didn't actively try to dig into my personal life and then beat the shit out of me for it. It just doesn't work in practical application.
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friendly reminder that all right wingers deserve to be gassed
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op is a fag
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>>6717475
no one leaves their house because they rather watch netflix

relationships have been supplanted by hook up apps

neighbors barely acknowledge each other

communities have no sense of identity or responsiblity to one another

most people dont have the self respect to not eat themselves to an early death

society is already collapsing and neoliberalism + conservationism are to blame
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Help me... Young male.. Looking for some sort of support... Please text 931...449...0491
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>>6716420
Not OP but also /pol/ack.

Not into "traps" but I thought the other day "If any of the girls I think are 10/10 qts had a penis would I still go for it?" and I realized I would but the reality is that I've never seen a "trap" that I thought was as cute as actual girls.

So in theory I'm right wing and don't mind penis if everything else is the same. Just not how it works in reality. Dude voices and manly jawlines kill my boner.
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>>6716329
Well...
Pol-kun, you're...ok, yeah, I got nothing, Aryan boy, yo done goofed, and I seriously can't help ya, but I guess you can just keep it monogamous and on the down low, and it shouldn't be too bad, I mean, if a tree falls, and no one's around to hear it, did it ever happen?
If you stuck your dick in a trap, and no one but the two of you ever knew, did it ever really happen.
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>>6716329
Oh no, some edgy 16 year old Trump supporter's life is turned up side down by their sick fetish in women... with dicks! Whatever will he do!?

Your life us so hard, go back to /s4s/
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>>6716329

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

you genes are sullied. you should sterlize yourself and not jeapordize the survival of the white race with your faggot genes

we don't need more faggots in the gene pool
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>>6727441
>implying you wouldn't cuddle her and play with her boy clit

Wew lad.
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>>6716329
>ultra right wing
>has a trap/trans fetish
Surprise!
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>>6728825

Almost as common as alt-rights with yellow fever.
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>>6716329
While contemplating suicide would you mind helping us sort through leaks. perhaps you shouldn't accept it if the pain from that would be greater than the pain of repression. As biscum who has a fanatical hatred of men for me it's a breeze.
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>>6728850
>mfw im all of the above
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>>6716329
You have it good m8. I am a nationalist, traditionalist middle easterner (can't even give specific country so I don't ruin its reputation) and I am going to start popping pills next week.
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>>6729231

Don't worry about being a stereotype, anon. Those Asian ladyboys you're in to are as well.
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>>6716584
>I'm six feet tall, attractive, and I have a high IQ
Prove it and post a pic mr confident.
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>>6716329
>tfw no /pol/ bf to invade my boipussy like it was Poland

Why live?
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Just embrace your faggotry OP.

I did and I'm much happier for it
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>>6729262

>TFW no janissary catamite to liberate from the Mohammedans in a new Crusade.
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>>6716329

Perhaps it´s time to reconsider your political stance?
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>>6716780
>Again, sex between consenting adults never hurts.

LOL yeah which is why nobody ever feels bad after a hookup or a botched relationship. Let’s get real: consent is just a frame of the conscious part of the brain at the moment, not a magic wand that makes any given decision the optimal one for health, happiness or success. The brain is a bundle of contradictory desires, and virgin 4channers like OP are particularly inexperienced at disentangling them from one another.

The reason homosexual relationships tend to be bad for society, OP, is that they tend to be unstable and incapable of becoming a social building block like a traditional family. Heterosexual hookups are the same way, however ALPHA they may make you. You’re looking to hit and quit a trans girl, but that’s just as degenerate as doing so with a cis girl. Probably worse, actually, since trans girls are already much more alienated and unstable.

On the flip side, finding a trans girl and entering into a stable, mutually complementary relationship with her is no more a betrayal of your nationalist principles than doing so with a cis girl; indeed it is less so as, per the above, you are stabilising a member of society in much greater need of it for the duration of the relationship.

Unless you think transgenderism itself is inherently degenerate and you don’t want to encourage it, in which case I’ll be happy to redpill you on that issue.
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>>6716329

Stop going to /pol/ you dumb frogposter. Your life will improve overnight. Get out of that bullshit echo chamber.
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>>6729895

You know in all honesty there ARE better places even for Alt Right information or discussion. Most of the people on /pol/ seem to have latched onto ethno-nationalism in response to being awkward, socially ostracised robots, which is … the wrong reason. All the irreligiousness or pre-Christian fetishism you see among 4chan nationalists is just one indicator of how sharply it diverges from contemporary Western nationalism as a whole, in a way that typifies the behaviour and beliefs of unhealthy, poorly-integrated social rejects, rather than Defenders of the Western Family™.
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>>6716584
>I'm six feet tall, attractive, and I have a high IQ

Oh really, welp center-right passable MtF here, wanna chat me up and embrace degeneracy?
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>>6729983

Different guy but I fit that profile too — and I have no hangups about this shit. Let’s make America great again — together.
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>>6716329
The nail that sticks out the most is hammered down. Your diversity threatens their mono-myth, so they instill this to crush you or make you one of their zeolotic blades most willing to do the worst for their world view. What you are is a threat to their cohesion and single mindedness of their hive.

Stop drinking their koolaid and start looking at things with fresh, clear eyes. Why are you a problem. What does being LGBT do to cause disaster. What causes you to act out, or others? Frustration with yourself? Despair at who you are? Not being the same? Not being able to follow the story you were told to follow all your life? Marry the opposite gender? Performing the tasks and having the personality expected of that gender feeling unnatural and unobtainable? Fear? Fear that others might be dragged with you, or you dragged with them?

Look, there is nothing to fear but fear itself. You're afraid. They're afraid? And, they'll kill and maim and harm anything for it. It is fear that grips you and them. And, it blinds all. Do not act on fear child. Act on logic and reason. There is nothing logical when you act on fear. You just act on fight or flight for your own self-preservation. The fear in the hearts of all humans is what will kill you. Not suicide.

stay alive...
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>>6730054
>Let’s make America great again — together.
Man you're a faggot, and not the good kind of faggot. I'd whoop your ass irl if you fucked with me boi.
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>>6730111

You would do no such thing you overcompensating mathc4mathc headcase. Sorry that trannies can be nationalists now while gays still can’t be considered masculine even if they lift, but that’s your problem, not mine.
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>>6730054
Sure, post kik fgt
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>>6730125
You'll never know the true feeling man on man intimacy you closet case, you're mentally in the closet.
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>>6730153

Gee what a loss. You’ve really pwned me bro.
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>>6730159
Go suck a feminine penis you mental gymnast. Nothing is more sad and pathetic than creeps like you.

Congratulations you idiot, you manage to get brain washed by a fucking anime image board for Christs sakes. You're a weak person.

I ain't even trippin'
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>ultra right wing
>nationalist
>frogposter
Your trap fetish is the least of your concerns.
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>>6730190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNzQ3gYR9rQ

I have a trap fetish too you know.
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>>6729636
>Unless you think transgenderism itself is inherently degenerate and you don’t want to encourage it, in which case I’ll be happy to redpill you on that issue.

redpill me on transgenderism sempai I want to hear this
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>>6730896

Okay, so we traditionalists reject the Tumblr heresy that gender is a social construct, and we recognise that it actually has objective rooting in biology, so the notion that people can choose whichever gender they like and we’re obliged to respect their pronouns is garbage. All well and good.

The issue is that numerous studies have shown various regions in the brains of both MtFs and FtMs — or at least the non-transtender, non-fetishist ones — to be neurologically intersex. That does not mean they have a psychological ailment causing them to think they are the opposite sex: it means the PHYSICAL structure and arrangement of the neurons in the brain more closely resemble those of their identified, rather than their birth-assigned, sex. We’re talking shit like the relative distribution of white and grey matter, the thickness of myelin sheaths along the neurons — actual objective science. You can find lots of links in the sources at the bottom here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_transsexuality.

>Okay, so they have a physical brain disorder that makes them think they’re the opposite sex. Doesn’t mean they actually are.

No no, it’s not just the part of the brain that determines gender identity that’s more like the brain of the identified sex. It’s MOST of the brain that’s like the identified sex (or halfway between). Preliminary findings even seem to indicate that this has bearing for trans people being better or worse at math, multitasking, spatial versus linear reasoning, et cetera.

Continued below.
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>>6730058
>Look, there is nothing to fear but fear itself.
>Do not act on fear child.
>zeolotic

dude i agree with you but please tone it down, you're not the fucking Oracle from the Matrix
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>>6732580
Just because it has a basis in biology doesn't mean it can't be a social construct, just like race.

Genetic differences which can be arbitrarily assigned into groups based on proximity - fine

Claiming that said differences are actually clearly distinct, statistically significant AND worthwhile to exchange cultural information about - that is the 'social construct'

>No no, it’s not just the part of the brain that determines gender identity that’s more like the brain of the identified sex.

And which part of the brain is that? Is there a 'gender identity' lobe in the brain? lmao
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Continued from >>6732580.

So now we’re in a position where we have to parse our definitions for sex very carefully. Obviously, the only uncontentious definition of an intersex person’s sex is, well, intersex. A lot of the crowd that hates trans people would just have us write them all off as freaks and abominations, which is to say, the issue makes them too uncomfortable to address it in earnest. But Man is by his nature a sexually dimorphic creature and even most of the intersex feel an urge to conform to one gender role or the other. It’s not absolute and many understandably keep some of their old pre-transition hobbies or decline the option of cutting up their junk, but by and large MtFs are happier, healthier, more productive people who contribute more to society living and presenting as women, and vice versa for FtMs.

Yeah, they can’t naturally produce children; neither can people who are sterile, but you aren’t going to stop them from dating and getting married, are you? Hire a fucking surrogate if you must; if you’re such an Übermensch then you should certainly be able to afford it.

If you’ve ever listened to an MtF pine for children of her own body, you’ll see that trans people are actually proof positive that many aspects of traditional gender roles are not only NOT just social constructs, but are so intrinsic that they survive even in people who spend fifteen or twenty years trying to force themselves into the role of their birth-assigned sex, usually to no avail. Unless you’re religious (in which case more at >>6705726), it’s baffling to me how anyone could call himself a nationalist and lament the fraying of the social fabric by feminism, yet obtusely refuse to recognise that individuals with male and female brains can only be properly socialised in accordance with the prevailing sex of those brains regardless of external bodily formation.
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>>6732672
>Claiming that said differences are actually clearly distinct, statistically significant AND worthwhile to exchange cultural information about - that is the 'social construct'

Perhaps, but it’s one that we traditionalists credit, which is all that matters for OP’s purposes.

>And which part of the brain is that? Is there a 'gender identity' lobe in the brain? lmao

Apparently there's one region that's believed to be primarily responsible for that, but I don't remember what it's called or in which paper I read about it.
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>>6732692
>If you’ve ever listened to an MtF pine for children of her own body
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>>6716329
hello golden one
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>>6716631
Chris-chan's "coming out" is more due to "her" naïvety, something that is common with autism.

Not saying she can't identify as a woman, just saying there are other factors at play which just screams causation.
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>>6730139

Oh shit, sorry doll, I was having so much fun yesterday rattling >>6730111’s cage that I completely missed this. I’ve never used Kik before, but hopefully I’m doing this right. User name is Sey— no wait, shit, that’s taken already. Let’s try it without the underscore … also taken. This one’s taken, that one’s taken … taken, taken, taken … tell you what, how about … ‘Lourdusamy’, there we go. That’s my user name. Hit me up BEYOTCH.

>>6734356

Yeah, as someone who’s kept abreast of that whole sordid saga since years before the tranny phase, I can vouch that Chris-chan has always been as crazy as a shithouse rat, and his experiences are irrelevant to the reality and the mental condition of most trans people, of which my friends group includes several.
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>>6722358
Good one m8, although it applies to me I'm skeptical about the proposition that the GOP is full of closet homos
>>6722412
Only because they've done nothing to arrest the decline.

>>6727171
Thanks for the advice
>>6727363
Not a Trump "supporter"

>>6728850
Hahaha. No. I'm not sexually attracted to girls with prepubescent bodies.

>>6729262
Turkey?

>>6729365
All of those qualities aren't that hard to find. I'm not a genius, I'm not a giant, and I'm not drop-dead gorgeous. I'm just above average.

And I'm not retarded. No pics 4u

>>6729385
:^)

>>6729456
No

>>6729895
I don't go on /pol/ that often.

There are better places to go.

>>6729983
I have reservations about hooking up with anyone who spends their time. I'm aware that makes me a hypocrite.

>>6732784
Fucking hell. Something about that guy..
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>>6730058
Calm down dude. This is mostly a personal struggle. No one is telling me to do shit.
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>>6716329
Also from /pol/, followed you from that thread

>convince me why I should accept sexual/gender deviance
You don't have to accept gays and trannies with open arms, just recognize that they aren't the major threats to western society. Muslims, dindus, and their self-hating authoritarian white enablers are the real cancer.

And on a personal level, you shouldn't torture yourself by living a lie. Be a man of your own creation. If you ever fall for a nice, loyal, mentally stable trans girl, and she loves you back, do yourself a favor and marry her.
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>>6740324
>Turkey?

kek

Seriously though. I came here a couple days ago from /pol/ too, thinking I was an outlier looking to get away from the vaginal Jew by picking up a cock loving trap.

I've seen 4-5 different pol guys posting these threads just in a couple days (not including mine). So why is it that these posts made on /pol/ get archived within a half hour?

The closet conservative answer doesn't really make sense on an anonymous board, and there's clearly a market for /pol/acks who are fed up with women. So what gives?
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>>6716329
>convince me why I should accept sexual/gender deviance

You shouldn't.

It's infinitely better, literally in every way, to NOT be LGBT. If you indulge this, it'll only give way to more dysfunction. Don't be a degenerate, get your life back on track and live on easy mode, it's definitely more in line with being a right wing nationalist.

Like, seriously, why the fuck would you even ask this here? It seems it should be obvious why you shouldn't jerk off to trannies and traps.
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>>6716371
I am of the opinion that your opinion on how others live their lives is worthless. Keep you social control fantasies to yourself they are worse than my fantasies about cock. At least my cock fantasies only affect me and someones willing dick.
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>>6740675
>I am of the opinion that your opinion on how others live their lives is worthless

"FUCK YOOUUUUU MOM AND DAD!!": the post

grow up you fucking loser
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>>6716371
>I'm of the opinion that urges (on the collective level) need to be suppressed for a society to maintain order

Ooh boy is your gender therapist going to be busy in a year or two
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>>6740739
>OH MY GOD YOU DON'T WANT TO LET ME FORCE MY VALUES ON YOU SO YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY MAD AT YOUR PARENTS
Not an argument, neck yourself.
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>>6732672
>>6732704
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/
i know it's an article but they link the studies so suck it.
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>>6740774
Your resentment isn't just towards your parents, but any authority figure as well I gather, well, that is as long said authority figure isn't using their power to prohibit people from criticizing your "freedumbs" to shove things up your ass and whatnot. Don't play the libertarian card here, I'm sure you don't actually value liberty outside of it's lack of imposing behavioral regulations.

Also, your "IT DOETH'NT AFFECT YOUUUU" sentiment is pitifully infantile. Yea, because no one is physically perturbed besides you and your partner in that exact instance, that definitely doesn't mean it leads to anything else. Slippery slope FALLACY amirite you gaiz? There's definitely nothing wrong with misusing your ability to create new life by swallowing the seed of other people and shooting yours in someone else's colon.

>DUDE CUM LMAO
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>>6740863
>There's definitely nothing wrong with misusing your ability to create new life by swallowing the seed of other people and shooting yours in someone else's colon.
well, it's good you finally come to reason.
also
>you
>an authority figure
>trying to armchair psychology so hard
top kek and i'm not even that anon.
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