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So I have a question

Ive fapped to myself as a woman forever, literally the first time I fapped.
This is a fetish or a metal disorder either way as a healthy good looking guy I want to stop secretly crossdressing. Ive started doing it alot and I even pass crossdressing and the road ahead looks bad.

>>6686266
the ride never ends my man

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>>6686275
Worst part you cant just post pictures of you crossdressing on the internet or show them to friends or talk about how you're fucked up

>>6686266
>I want to stop secretly crossdressing.
Easy solution, start openly crossdressing.

>>6686266
You need to transition immediately before you become a hon.

>>6686302
And loose all social status
>>6686307
Thats what I fear kind of wish I would have years ago now seems too late at 21

>>6686330
>implying social status is more important than feeling at home in your own body

>too late at 21
Not at all. Hormones ASAP (start DIY until you can get a prescription) and you'll be fine.

You can always try hormones for a short while (weeks to a couple months, before permanent effects) to see if you like them.

If you start and you're like "holy shit where has this been all my life" then you're probably trans. If not, no harm done.

Source: was like you in that I also fapped to myself as a girl forever. I started HRT in my mid-twenties and it went alright. Obviously I'm not as cute as if I'd have started at 14 but the sense of inner peace is utterly sublime.

>>6686423
Didn't you want kids though

>>6686654
>What is a sperm bank?
>Didn't you want to damn innocents to the horror of existence?
Maybe? I decided to reserve the possibility of having them. If there's the smallest chance you might want kids, go deposit sperm before starting HRT. Parents might be willing to help cuz muh grandchildren.

Bank before HRT because there's no telling how it might fuck up your sperm.

>>6686694
Why not just stick to crossdressing and not transition?

>>6686729
Because testosterone continues to poison and deform you even if you wear only the pinkest of panties?

>>6686654
why the fuck would you have kids?
particularly people who aren't prepared to support them for the rest of their life

>>6686423
>really want to do this but can't since live with conservative family
I feel the inner peace would come from knowing once and for all rather than the HRT itself

>>6689127
I don't know for me it was this feeling that the nightmare's over, my body won't get any more masculine.

>>6686423
the reality is it's extremely unlikely to be "holy shit where has this been all my life" but that doesn't really mean anything

>>6689348
It does happen though!

There is a name for this. Wish I could follow up on my desires but can't because of my family. When I am able to move out(can't because of health related reasons right now) I will be glad.

>tfw been on spiro for more than a year but hair is still thinning out

>>6689348
Have you actually heard of any AGP that permanently abandoned hormones after starting them?

>>6690303
>finasteride

>>6690314
well permanently is impossible to tell...what if someone quit for years but tomorrow they'll come back?

>>6684429
>Fantasize about being a submissive cute grill that only sleeps with guys but also enjoy being a dominant bisexual guy
>Completely comfortable in male body but sometimes desperately wishes to be a cute grill dressing in cute clothes and doing girl things
What does it mean.

i think i'm AGP lmao

>>6690775
>>Completely comfortable in male body but sometimes desperately wishes to be a cute grill dressing in cute clothes and doing girl things
which is it?

>>6690810
Not OP, but for me, if I was given the choice of being turned into a 100% biological female, I'd take it in a heartbeat. However, I'm content with living my life as a male and don't really experience any extreme dysphoria.

>>6690810
Well it is just like i am fine the way I am but would prefer being a biological female or at least that's what my feelings suggest without the frame of reference of being female I have no idea what the reality of it is, though if i was given the option to magically be female I would take it, but at the same time i have no problem living as i am as there is no real way of becoming a cute grill.

>>6690978
>>6690848
I don't want to suggest anything but I was basically
>if I was given the choice of being turned into a 100% biological female, I'd take it in a heartbeat. However, I'm content with living my life as a male and don't really experience any extreme dysphoria.
i actually do have thoughts extremely like this written down but i can't access them to see when. but now basically i want to shoot myself whenever i see my masculine head and body in the mirror

i'm just saying that
>I'd take it in a heartbeat.
is not a common thought among men, and
>sometimes desperately wishes to be a cute grill dressing in cute clothes and doing girl things
>Completely comfortable in male body
seem like mutually exclusive states

>>6691062
I guess it's like wanting something you can't have but not having it doesn't negatively effect you but you really want it, like wanting a mansion even though your current home is fine.

>tfw start considering whether I might actually be trans
>test myself
>Just chant "I'm a woman" for a minute
>Get a boner
nice

>>6691123
Safe again!

>>6690810
I kind of get him though. I can spend months being perfectly fine with being male then suddenly
>WAAAAH I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN ;__;

>>6690848
Same

>>6690810
To me, I'm completely neutral about being a guy. It's not bad.
It's like, I wouldn't say no to free vanilla ice cream, but I'd rather have chocolate. But the stores closed.
>>6690848
Desu. Doubly so if I can have things changed so everyone knows I'm still me, and won't think it's weird Im a girl now/think I was always s girl

>>6690645
I mean for a significant length of time. I see a lot of people who maybe stop hormones for like up to 6mo but then start again. With a few exceptions I've never heard of anyone who started hormones but then stopped for more than 2 years.

>>6691110
>>6690775
If it would make you happier why not go for it? It sounds like you've wanted to be a girl for some time.

>>6693666
Probably because it's more than a on/off switch and there's a lot involved with it.

>Very lonely 19 year old kid >Never fapped except for the first orgasm I had when I was 12, in a diaper and my mothers dress, reading a story online about a boy who was forced to wear diapers and wear girl clothes by his hot gril babysitter. > Decide to buy a pack of diapers at 21 years of age. >Picture beautiful women forcing me into diapers and fucking men in front of me. >Months later, diapers no longer give me erection, decide to buy panties and dresses to reach orgasm. > Discover the world of online sissy captions, mostly ones of hot chicks encouraging the sissies to wear their clothes and go out looking like a slut. > No longer aroused by these captions, move on to picturing myself being fucked in the ass while wearing women's clothes, again, with beautiful women watching my degradation. > After a year of fapping exclusively to sissy porn, start to realize thatit is seeping into my very being, I really feel like a sissy whore in my real life. > fuck

>>6696189
Lol

24 m dominant
Sc: lord_akra
Would like to see someone cd for me like to swap pics and show off

>>6696351
Lel, I've seen this before. You aren't a dom at all, or you've seriously deluded yourself into thinking you are. Most men who are into this shit are just as AGP as the people they wish to "dom". You're just trying to live your dream of being fucked in the ass like a girl like all of the other trannies here.

@6696351
Fuck off fag

>>6696437
>@
Just no. This is not twitter, you might have forgot

>>6696533
That post doesn't deserve a single (You)

did we ever agree on the best video game to roleplay as a girl that isn't second life?

>>6696072
Well I guess you just have to decide if it is worth the time then. For me, it definitely was, and I was a lot like you pre-transition. Not unhappy with being happy being a guy per se, but wanting to be a girl. No regrets so far and I'm year HRT

>>6697987
life is strange?

How to buy girly clothes without looking weird
How to buy a dildo without looking weird

>>6697987

Well, I liked playing as a girl in RuneScape, MGS: PW, and Skyrim.

>>6700147

Do both online.

>>6698278
How old were you when you started?
How well do you pass?

>>6700065
Too character based, i don't get how anyone can selfinsert into max personally
Anything where the main character has a predefined personality and looks is probably gonna feel alienating for some players (if you attempt to selfinsert) since you'll always find someone that's very far away from said character that can't really put themselves in their shoes


>>6700147
>2016
>buying anything but food offline

>>6700329
17. I pass pretty much 100%, both with just my voice and in person. Only got clocked once and that was over the phone and near the beginning of starting to live as a female full time. I plan to go stealth once I head to uni in like 2 weeks.

If you're questioning whether you would pass, I really can't blame you, but I will say that I did the same prior to transitioning. I have one of those german faces so I was kind of worried about my jawline, but with the right hairstyle, plucked eyebrows, and a tracheal shave everything looks fine. I also had really thick black hair on my body but laser took care of that.

Also, if you're questioning whether you're too old, you should know that there are a lot of people who transitioned under like maybe 24 and could go stealth with enough effort. A lot of those unpassing trannies you see are like that because they just don't care enough to take care of themselves and think things through properly. So, if you are going to transition, make sure to do your research and do it right.

>>6700718
>Exactly 24
Well fuck, and you did it at 17 you lucky shit

>>6700724
You could still have a chance. There's this one MtF that posts on reddit who transitioned at 30 and she passes 100%. Did you always feel like you were never physically up to male standards?

>>6700718
but you were 17, which makes your advice irrelevant 99% of the time

of course if you're a young shit you'll be fucking fine

>>6700766
I never felt strong, but never felt like I needed to become a woman like right now omg stop the presses. I always wanna compliment girls on their appearance not to hit on them, but because I wish i could wear those or do my nails and make-up like that, you know?

I guess it's because I've been wearing panties tonight so maybe it's more the fantasy, but I'd love to be more of a girl sometimes.

>>6700783
I mean physically, were you perceived as scrawny or short or had a big ass?

>>6700974
No

>>6700981
Oh well then you might be a bit fucked then. Still, exercise and hrt can do a lot, and there's always partial transition if you can't go all the way.

>>6700718
>all these people claiming to pass
>never post proof
For some reason I don't believe you

>>6690978
>>6690848
>>6690810


i totally feel this. I got a few months without having that fantasy, having a heterosexual sex life, and then boom, I wish i was on the other side.
its too late to do anything but im not too too masculine but its hard to change those things I want to, body hair, etc

>>6700147
dude if you just go to a sex shop i feel like its weird but its their job
they dont judge the see this shit all the time

but i have roomates who would be like "whats this big box from "Bad Dragon??"

>>6701516
>too late
You don't know that (well unless you're 40 and got kids or something)

>>6701538
just order some dildo off amazon, you don't need crazy shit to fill your butthole

>>6701516
>body hair
what is laser hair removal and electrolysis
what is finasteride and duasteride

>>6701538
I went to a sex shop and there was this older trans lady working there. She was really nice though and helped me choose the right dildo and lube.

Currently calling myself a gay man. I've considered transitioning for a long time, but have kept it under wraps completely except for a few times anonymously online and to my psychiatrist when I was 20.

I'm not sure if I'm a fetishist or if i have real dysphoria. Most of the time in the past it's been non-sexual, but sometimes it was sexual. Recently it's been more sexual. In the past i just dressed up and looked at myself in the mirror.

I dont know if i could pass if i did transition. I'm a good looking man with a strong jawline and i don't know if i could deal with not being pretty anymore.

Should someone like me entertain the idea of transitioning? Or just stick to crossdressing by myself every once in a while?

>>6702442
In a fairly similar boat, but the thing is, these thoughts will never go away. You know damn well that it is not a phase, and even after my best attempt to mute these thoughts, to banish the desires, they never left. I think it's the fear and the people that disagree that's putting doubt in us, and I think it will be really sad if you gave into the pressure.

Try, at the very least. Look things up, see what is reversible and what isn't and just try. When you do and finally make up your mind, even if down the road you waver, you will have concrete feelings and knowledge why the path you chose is the right one for you.

>>6702965
I'm 24. I'm scared I'm too old or too masc looking. I'm scared taking hormones will fuck up my depression even more and ill kill myself.

>>6703252
Have you talked to someone about this? Like an actual professional, because they can tell you much more than my arm-chair ponderings ever will.

Still, talk to me about it if you'd like. What do you think is causing the depression?

>>6703342
Like i said i talked to one psychiatrist about trans/gender identity crisis 4 years ago, but he wasnt much help at all. I have talked to a lot of different doctors and psychologists and psychiatrists about depression throughout pretty much all of high school and my adult life. It's getting better recently Ive found meds that work fairly well, but i know hormones can be a wild ride so do i really want to mess with that right now?

>>6703342
>>6703408
I think the gender stuff might be a partial cause of it. It's all so circular now. At first i was depressed because of my attraction to men and gender problems. My depression made me fail at a lot of things and now it seems like my depression is just coming from the part of me where i feel like a total failure.

>>6703428
It might be that you need to resolve your self-worth problems on your own, and others cannot help. Or it might be that you're more mature now, and others can reach out to you more easily.

Still, I don't think transitioning will actually address your problems, since they sound as something related to your self, not necessarily your appearance. It might help a bit, but I think the root of the problem will persist.

Perhaps wait for a more 'stable' stage in your life, but my advice for you is to definitely cultivate some confidence in your self and belief in your decisions. I wish it were as easy as to just say it, and I know this has been the struggle for me as well, but I think that's the answer.

Sorry if this isn't very helpful, it certainly doesnt sound so now that I've read over it, but problems rarely have easy solutions.

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How am i doing /AGP/? I'm a transvestite but kinda new to it.

>>6703252
at least then it will all be over ;^)

>>6704870
Are you the same degen who got outed by their steam wishlist? :'D

>>6704870
you could land an airplane on those shoulders hun!

>>6705772
source?

Wait so there's such a thing as tranny enough to be slutty as hell and cute but not so far to be a mutilated mentally challenged hon with dysphoria?

>>6706139
Welcome to Accelerated Graphics Port.

>>6706234
Cool, when do I get the port?
Right now I have a male end.

>>6703537
Thanks for your kind advice. I'm working really hard at getting everything else on track too.

Do you also suffer from lack of motivation in other aspects of your life once you give into your agp, /agpgen/?

>>6703537
I mean, it could be that the reason he lacks self worth is the gender stuff. No clear answer.

>Can't Man because AGP so doing anything sex-related as a man is out of the question
>Can't Woman because AGP and I'm probably not trans if just thinking about being a woman turns me on half of the time
free me

>>6706943
I relate to this, but you might actually have dysphoria.

Fuck this circlejerking of same shit over and over

>>6707048
Are you new to French bande dessinée letter chains? Tis what generals are for.

>>6707048
Wouldn't call it a circlejerk - more like a circlefight - but yeah not much is being discussed now.

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>>6704870
>cheap unfitting wig
>clothing emphasizes the male figure
gee i dunno you probably pass well hun

>>6702442
>psychiatrist
Jesus, does everyone on 4chan but me see a psychiatrist?

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Is something like this reasonable?
The idea being that you can cut out some foam in some shapes and compress it down to fake a pear shape?
I've been curious about it for a few years now but I'm nervous that this instruction set of images I have. I called around looking for the foam, that alone would come out to ~$150.
If anyone is interested or needs more info from the other images, I can post more from the set or I can just dump it if anyone wants it. I can't really find any info on it

>tfw your TOP TIER AGP MEME goes unappreciated
this is truly the darkest timeline

>>6704870
wandering transbian here
gave me a soft boner tbqh

>>6709323
>not enslaved by the pharmaceutical Jew
This is a very good thing Anon

>>6709539
someone unironically believes this

>>6709539
Oh don't get me wrong I should be on medication for sure. I have zero desire to fuck and masturbation doesn't give me an orgasm, plus the general "life has no meaning, nothing will improve" shit going on too.
I'm just flabbergasted that every ficking person on 4chan sees a therapist.

>>6709368
ritalin

>>6709720
I don't think everyone does
People who don't generally don't say they don't, just like you generally don't have to clarify you're straight except you're even less likely to have to say you don't see a shrink

>>6709760
Right of course. And being anonymous means there's no stigma about saying you're seeing a therapist.

>>6709350

That sounds like you would overheat.

>>6709350
yikes
uhhh
not really my thing at all

>>6709967
psychiatrist =/= therapist

>>6684429

Holy shit, he really is gay. I was expecting him to have a gruffer voice and act more holier-than-thou in a heterosexual male academic kind of way. I honestly feel like I can take him less seriously now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHx-Llvvk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXlczn2sMbM

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>>6711402
Do not deny Him.

>>6712040
I'm AGP scum, Blanchard!

>>6712040
I'm AGP scum, Blancard!

'effin saved

>>6712040
I'm TruTrans but can you kill me too please?

>>6712040
>tfw you want to share this with asktransgender but know it will get deleted instantly

>>6712488
leave it to a retarded trutranny to think the rules don't apply to him

>>6712556
kek

>>6712040
>mfw it's "soon" and i am not peacefully gone yet
So he truly was a hack fraud after all

>>6714005
If you want something done, you have to do it yourself.

IMO autogynophilia is just a way to eliminate the self by becoming a woman - as woman are very much empty vessels, i.e., they lack a self. It's suicide without physical death.

Also porn is another contributing factor.

>>6712556
Thankfully if you fear a ban reddit allows you to quickly create throwaway accounts

>>6714181
What about AAP? Empty women want to gain self and it somehow turns them on?
What about partial AGP, you want to kill yourself, but not your dick?

>>6714275
>What about AAP? Empty women want to gain self and it somehow turns them on?
Yeah that makes sense.
>What about partial AGP, you want to kill yourself, but not your dick?
Even many full on trannys don't get genital reconstruction surgery.

>>6684429
saging cause i hate this shit gen however you retards should fix the OP message

"αὐτό" doesnt exist in Greek for many decades now, its "αυτό" without the fucking tone on the υ
else we're talking about ancient greek and not greek

t. triggered greekfag

>>6716081
We are talking about ancient greek whenever we're talking about medicine or science. Deal with it.

>>6716081
It's ancient Greek you useless gyronigger
You still have not yet paid denbts

>>6706950
I mean, how can I tell?
>Fantasized about boys turning into girls since before puberty but never about myself
>Remember thinking of myself as a boy
>Went full AGP at 12, only ever getting turned on by AGP fantasies and/or crossdressing
>Become mildly depressed for no discernable reason; stay like that ever since
>At 20ish start actually wanting to be a woman; realize this might not be "just a fetish" I have as a straight man
>Strongly dislike body but I'm very ugly so maybe that's just that
Not sure if this really qualifies.

>>6718341
get on hormones retard

>>6718355
Don't you think the whole "turned on by the very idea of being a woman like half of the time" thing is a red flag?

>>6718375
No

>>6718375
Being sexually aroused by what you wish was your body, and the acts you could partake in, is unhealthy? Who thinks sexual arousal is unhealthy? Christians? Muslims? Jews? Buddhists? Any sane individuals who are not pedophiles, or all they all just insane pedophiles?

>>6718379
It's one thing to be sexually aroused at the thought of being a woman in a sex-related situation and quite another to be aroused at the thought of being a feminine woman in a sex-unrelated situation. The first one is normal. The second is really strange. I can only picture myself as a woman without getting turned on if I think of myself as an unfeminine one. Granted, I find those fantasies very pleasant, but the whole thing is very suspect. Just chanting "I'm a woman" for a minute is enough to turn me on, if only a bit.

>>6718401
luckily enough for you, hormones would leave you as an unfeminine woman ;^)

>>6714181
What, and men aren't?

>>6719256
Just ignore the genuine honest-to-god women haters. No point reasoning with them.

>>6720343
Yeah, that's good advice, I just wonder why they bother to post on a thread involving mostly transwomen?

Any other AGPs who discovered this quite late?

I started having fantasies about being a woman only in my early 20s. Seems like a lot of people here had these feelings since they were teenagers. I've always been submissive, but thinking about being a woman in a sexual and even non-sexual situations is pretty recent.

>>6720548
I thought most transwomen just go to /mtfg/ instead? I'm under the impression that this thread is 90% deep cover repressors and 10% transsexuals struggling with this aspect of themselves/helping others overcome it.

>>6720837
Well, even you put it as 100% transwomen, you just say the vast majority are repressing it.

>>6720782
Yes. Then again, I didn't have any sexual fantasies or urges so that's a more likely explanation.

Sometimes, i fap about having a vagina. One of my fantasy is to just transform in a woman in a magical way. I brought feminine bit for male underwears an i want to crossdress and makeup. Is it AGP ?

Do something like this exist about women fantasying being a man ?

>>6721731
>Is AGP arousal to the thought of being a woman?
Gee I don't know, is OP a faggot?
Mysteries that shall never be solved my friend.

This thread caught my eye, especially those asking about games. Thought I'd throw this out there for those interested. It's a text based erotic game where you (the male protagonist) are transformed into a female by the power of mad science. You can also skip that bit and start out as a pure female if that's your preference.

https://www.patreon.com/splendidostrich

The developer releases new updates monthly and gives the previous month's updates out for free. You can also find it on various torrent sites.

It focuses a bit heavy on the erotic aspect for my taste, but I'm sure there's plenty of people it'll interest. Hopefully that's just because it's relatively early in development.

>>6722029
>people make 4k making nudie games
gone to the store to grab some rope, brb

You should see the ones who make 10k+ a month drawing furry porn.

>Attracted to cute chicks and passing traps
>Jerk off exclusively to trap porn (both 2D and 3D)
>Crossdressed and jerked off in the past
>Have occasionally entertained the idea of going on HRT to become more feminine and dress full time
>Recently tried sucking a dick and didn't even feel a tingle in my pants during the whole thing, and didn't get him off either

I dunno

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>Know some digital painting
>Realize I can preview how would I look like on full make up

Well, I guess this kills the fantasy of transitioning. VR is the last hope.

>>6722090
...i need to figure out how to get into that

>>6722144
I feel you, but in this subject the lines are so blurred and you can't trust anyone, so you have to try to reason rationaly even if it is about emotions.

Being trutrans, agp or even being trans at all, it's all memes and ultimately meaningless words. What you really need to decide is if you're okay being you (and will continue to be so) or if you'd like to take the very real risks to be somewhat more feminine. For some people this is worth it, for others not and it depends on so many factors the decision is really personal.

Now people can help you determine the conditions of your choice (like tell you if you're fucked already and will never pass or tell you right away you probably should do it if you already have crippling dysphoria) but ultimately the choice and associated consequences are up to you.

>>6722409
Sucking his dick was just boring too. Wasn't turned on or grossed out or anything really. Maybe if I was actually dressed up I would've been more into it, but the whole experience has just turned me off to trying again. Maybe I should just fuck traps instead of trying to be one.

>>6722459
Maybe you just don't like sucking dicks is all.
You really shouldn't try to deduce your gender identity from liking to suck dicks or not, it's completely unrelated.

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>>6684429
>pretty women

They just run all over you. Take your fucking money, your love, and your life. And then she leaves. I don't why I keep doing this to myself. Here's a song. Bet you didn't know Kevin Costner could sing.

[spoiler] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK9Vl5ovj7o [/spoiler]

>>6722519
I raise with one Bruce Willis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDXkd2NyCCE

>>6722519
>having /tv/ discussions on /agpg/
>having /agpg/ discussions on /r9k/
>having /r9k/ discussions on /tv/
The fuck is 4chan coming to these days?

>>6722488
>gender identity

Nah, I'm a dude. I identify with dudes. I bond with dudes. I just get really turned on by the situation of one guy getting really girly and getting fucked by another dude. I just don't know what side of the equation I want to be on.

>>6722544
Coming to? Where have you been. This place was fucked the day moot left it. And let's be real, it wasn't even that good then.

But at least you have fucked up idiots like me to hang out with right?

>>6722557
>Where have you been
4*2chan desu
but now than that place's ruined too it's either i hang out here or on the deadlands of lainchan

>>6722566
Then get used to it. Shit's fucked up here and if I had to make a guess, it's gonna get worse. So sit back, have a cold one, smoke a cigarette, and watch the world burn.

>>6722549
It's funny, I thought i just wanted to fuck traps but that didn't do it for me and i'm seriously considering crossing to the other side now.

>>6722577
Well at least i'm safe in the knowledge that i had fine times with unbearable faggots like old/b/ and gentle/r9k/ back in the day.

Let's let the fall happen, the chans will rise again in spirit somewhere else. The spirit of Usenet will never die.

>>6722578
Yeah. I'm a smaller guy with a history of crossdressing, so I thought I should gravitate towards the trap side, but now I'm just not sure.

>>6722614
I'd say "are you me", but if i did i'd have to for everyone in this damn thread.

The uncertainty of it all is really getting to my nerves, if i'm a fucking tranny i'd rather know it, do the full thing and still look like shit than this hell of not knowing what the fuck to do.
Goddamn sometimes i wish i was more impulsive.

>>6722593
>Let's let the fall happen

I wish we had a choice. I really fucking do. But I agree, it will rise again. But I think that's gonna happen underground my friend. And most people here will never even know about it.

>>6722631
Yeah, I'm not impulsive at all either, and sucking that dick was completely crazy and out of character for me. But it ended up making me think this whole thing wasn't for me. But it could've been anything that turned me off from it I guess.

>>6721746
No need to be rude to newfriends.

>>6723066
Not reading the OP is grounds for getting scolded.
What ever happended to lurking moar?

>>6723078
There's nothing worth learning from the majority of fuckwits here. Can you blame someone for not taking the time to lurk?

>>6723115
...yes?

>>6723141
Haha fair enough.

why can't i just get assisted suicide for wishing i was a girl


it never gets better

>>6725536
I've been thinking that a lot lately. That it would be easier if I just died.
But then I remember how inconvenient it would be for my parents. They'd have to burry me, cancel my education and apartment, and live knowing their son killed himself.
So I'll just have to hope someone robs me at gunpoint or something

>>6725552
when my grandfather died people were sad for several months and my grandmother was sad for about a year and a half

it doesn't take that long to get over grief


I'm not at the point where I'm ready to actively kill myself yet but I have a plan and the means to carry it out.

I don't want to be alive but I don't want to die either.
I wish I could just be normal and not have these feelings.

>>6725582
>I don't want to be alive but I don't want to die either.
>I wish I could just be normal and not have these feelings
Yeah

>>6725773
But, there's a big difference between an 85 year old man dying of age, and a 20 year old killing himself for seemingly no reason.

>>6725552
>>6725582
What's keeping you from transitioning?

>>6725806
That it doesn't make me a girl.
That I'm 6'3"
That a guy taking hormones cant "compete" with an actual girl.
That even if I did, and somehow got a boyfriend who was okay with me only being a girl in my head, I can't get pregnant.

I wish I could wake up tomorrow in a girl's body and start life over.

does it make sense being autoandrophilia when I don't find myself attracted to men?

>>6725536

Same.

>>6725552

I used to think that way. Let them suffer is my view now. I wouldn't kill myself if it weren't for them in the first place, they would just be paying the consequences for their actions.

>>6725582

Suicide is a bit different than a natural death in the effects it has on family.

>>6725826

>That a guy taking hormones cant "compete" with an actual girl.
>That even if I did, and somehow got a boyfriend who was okay with me only being a girl in my head, I can't get pregnant.

These facts hurt, senpai.

>>6725968

Dx: Patrick Bateman Disorder.

>>6726002
My parents haven't done anything. They aren't to blame that I can't be happy
>>6725968
What does that even mean? You're a girl who gets turned on at "acting like a guy", but you're a lesbian?

>>6726127

So your parents were the supportive type, it never came up that they were homophobic or transphobic, or you just didn't feel like you wanted to be a girl while you were growing up?

>>6725806
Mostly fear of telling someone, and that (most likely) I wouldn't pass as female.

I'm horrified at ever revealing to anyone, whether it be family or a therapist, that I wish I was a girl.

And I don't think I would pass. I'm 6'0-6'1. Have a large brow, big nose, size 13 mens feet, receding hairline. I am only 19 I guess but I'm a fat fuck so it would probably take me a year or so to lose enough weight to start HRT (and that's if I started right now).

So basically even if I did any of that I probably wouldn't pass as female. What's the point?

>>6726137
>So your parents were the supportive type,
No. More like the "distant types".
>it never came up that they were homophobic
They don't like overly flamboyant gays (the kind whose whole life revolves around liking dick), or that gays can be married in churches now. Other than that, I don't think they care. They said my sister could date girls if she wanted, but not Muslims.
>or transphobic,
That has never come up even a single time. I dont think they know about transsexualism
>or you just didn't feel like you wanted to be a girl while you were growing up?
I've only known, consciously, for a few months. But i didn't have any crushes or fantasies at all growing up, so I think it's more that I never thought it was possible to have sexual thoughts? I'm in awe when I hear people here say they had fantasies or masturbated when they were teens/tweens
I just never thought about sex.

>>6726179

What country do you live in?

>>6726186
Damn, that's basically the same as me completely, except it was only my dad who would make fun of flamers because of the lowbrow comedians he would listen to

I am always amazed when I hear people watching porn and jerking off at 10 or something. I never masturbated until I was 16 and basically forced myself to (although I guess that is teens now that I write it...)

>>6726179
It's a lot easier to say shit to a therapist..
Obviously you can say it in writing. Can you write down everything that's bothering you, everything you hate about the world or yourself? And send that to a therapist?

>>6726226
>I never masturbated until I was 16 and basically forced myself to (although I guess that is teens now that I write it
I discovered it when I was thirteen, started doing it weekly from when I was 15/16. My only reason was I thought it would minimize wet dreams.
When I hear that some guys masturbate(d) daily, I feel like a freak, a failure. I don't even enjoy it.
Masturbation feels like work, with no "reward" at the end.

>>6726186
>More like the "distant types"
I know the feeling.
I've been crying for the past 2 hours over the question, "mommy will love me if I'm a good girl, right?"

>I'm in awe when I hear people here say they had fantasies or masturbated when they were teens/tweens
I just never thought about sex.
I just kinda masturbated compulsively, because I would always feel better in the morning. Looking back, I think it just got the testosterone out of my system. I rarely enjoyed it.

>>6726248
see above

>>6726216
US

>>6726226
I could but I don't know how that would work. I don't live near any therapists that have experience with trans people according to the few websites I've checked, and I don't know how a random therapist would handle it.

>>6726273
Can I ask how often you did it/do it?
I remember thinking that maybe I was "bad" at masterbating, and that's why j didn't feel anything. So I wanted to do it daily.
I quit before I even began.

>>6726372
If there really aren't real life ones you can go to, you can try one of the online therapy services. I used one for a bit and even though i actually now think in person is better, online can help

>>6726127
Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.
I like having a on strapon and imagine it as own my dick. fantasize about doing my bi gf as a man. +also enjoy crossdressing.
It really have made me question my own sexualidentity. I feel like I should like men. But I don't. Tried to have sex with a man and I hated it so much. idk if this belong in this thread. I just feel so weird about it.

>>6726377
at least once a night when my t levels were higher.
it really didn't feel "good" until I started HRT desu. Now I can finally masturbate for fun.

>>6722222
or you're just terrible at painting

>>6722222
you're actually cute as fuck! You look like my cis friend, and she's not like sexy, but she's adorable

>Feel completely fine for a while
>Think that maybe I figured shit out and I don't REALLY want to be a woman I mean I don't even despise my body and-
>Get relentlessly assaulted by The Feels out of nowhere for a week straight

Hi, new here. I'm a cis gay guy and for the last roughly two years I've been getting increasingly attracted to the thought of having a vagina. Like, at this point I have to think about it to get off. I won't share how it started because it's a little weird but I've found myself reaching the point now where I think I really want a vag but I can't tell if it's just me being ridiculously horny? And being referred to as a girl is also pretty fucking hot too so... I guess that means I'm agp, though the thought of having breasts or any other feminine feature isn't a gigantic turn on, it's mainly the pussy. Anyone else feel the same way?

>>6730674
Welcome to dysphoria ;^)

>>6739340
this wasn't supposed to happen this was supposed to be a fetish wake me up inside

>>6739368
You can't wake up, anon

>>6739375
SAVE ME

Does anyone know where I can get a nice wig to make me look like a girl?

>>6684429
Does anyone else here get a deep, intense feeling of longing at your worst? I feel like this is a major thing that has defined my sexuality ever since around third grade when I first discovered I had a sexuality. Whenever I see a truly beautiful girl I get an intense, profound feeling of jealousy and longing to be like her, to have her body, etc. Many times I start to adapt her mannerisms as well. Is this the AGP equivalent of love at first sight?

>>6739620

Try wigs.com (they have a sale right now) or hairsisters.com I tried to buy a wig a while ago, but then I looked at the sizes they were in, and realized my head was too big for any of them. I cried that night.

>>6740768
Somewhat. I imagine I'm the girl in my porn, but I don't do it to real life girls.

>>6740768
idk

I'm not really very attracted to girls but when I see girls my age or girls that would be considered my peers, I get extremely jealous and depressed because I'm a guy and they're a girl and I'll never get to be a girl and do the things they get to do because they're girls.

Is it like that?

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I posted this on another forum.

>Hey. First time poster. Long time lurker. So I'm nowhere near trap status nor have I decided to "transition" or anything. To be quite honest I don't want to "transition". I'm happy to be a man and I completely enjoy it to the fullest. Thats weird you might think. What am I even doing here then?

>Well, I am aware that I do wish I had a more feminine body. I'd like to CD. it looks fun and trapping looks fun as well. But I have no identity issues. If that makes any sense. What I'm trying to say is that I don't mind being a guy.

>I don't want to identify as a woman for the rest of my life or take hormones. Is that normal? I'm pretty sure this is just a "kink". But I don't know what I'm feeling right now and have been for all my life. It comes and goes but I just wanted to know the input from you wonderful people. I guess my goal would be to trap and dress very femininly and take a part of this community but it would just stay as something very personal. I'd enjoy to be with you here sharing pics and what not. Since its mostly a kink I've had. It gets me off that idea you know? I'm not trying to go around identifying as a woman, which isn't wrong btw. I'm not trying to say it is. Its just not for me.

>There is another issue too. But it's not very relevant since I haven't acted upon these desires yet. So for now what do you think? And no I haven't shaved my man hair because of a few reasons. Mostly having a girlfriend who enjoys it. But that's okay for now since I haven't tried to cd or trap yet.


TLDR After reading this thread. I might just be AGP. Fuck.

>>6740768
>>6741849
That just sounds like dysphoria, desu.

>>6743971
I know.

I don't know what the mix is but I think I'm part trans and part agp.

I definitely have dysphoria.

>>6743738
uhh what's "man hair"

>>6718406
brutal

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Good news anons! I thought I was never going to be able to enjoy to vanilla sex, but for the first time maybe ever I was actually able to get off to the idea of sex with either gender without any AGP related elements involved. I guess all that stuff people say about AGP turning into normal female sexual desires with transition really was true after all.

I feel like I'm going to finally be able to move on with my life now and just be a bisexual girl instead of a girl with tons of AGP baggage. Any other AGP success stories people have?

>>6744754
if that's you i'll kms right now

>>6744822
Lol no I'm German and blonde. Funny you say that though, that gif used to trigger my AGP hard a few years back. I think it's the girliness of it combined with an easy situation to self insert into (in front of computer) for people raised as guys.

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do you guys think I could pass?

>>6745001
Given you didn't post face, no, I don't think you would.

>>6745001
You need to post a standing up normally pic with good lighting otherwise we cant really tell

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>>6745130
fuck you, I have a cute face. Let's see yours you cunt. Why is everyone on this board so mean to each other when we know each other better than anyone?

>>6745180
>fuck you
>you cunt
>Why is everyone on this board so mean to each other?
Brilliant. You can't make this up.
I have no need to post a picture of my face since I don't need to know if I might look like a girl.
You claim to have a "pretty face", but you keep posting images of your body instead. Something tells me you're not confident.

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>>6745207
>6745207
here have some more pictures of my cute little ass. Cunt.

>>6745303
You keep calling me cunt and at the same time say that *I'm* the mean one.
Don't you see how funny that is?

>>6745551

Don't make fun of the retarded.

>>6743738

>After reading this thread. I might just be AGP. Fuck.

What's wrong with that? It sounds like you don't see yourself as trans or are hoping to be confirmed as trans. Instead, you just see it as a fetish. So where do you see the problem with being AGP?

>>6745180
>Why is everyone on this board so mean to each other when we know each other better than anyone?

It's funny how even on the ass end of the internet, among the outcasts of the most outcast group in society, people still find time to be mean to each other. Shitposting, shitposting never changes.

You need to post a picture of your hip to shoulder ratio though (preferrably with as few or form fitting clothes as possible) in order for me to tell you anything relevant.

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Do you think crossdressing and engaging in self bondage is agp behaviour? Or could be some trans signs there since self bondage is not exactly a traditionally masculine hobby? Or is that not enough data?

>>6746788
Not really enough data. What probably matters more is why are you doing it? What are you thinking about while you do it?

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>>6745551
I spoke to you how I wanted to speak to you based on how you did to me. I know I was asking for your guys' advice, and I know that I can't just expect everyone to tell me what I want to hear but,, you're the one who started things off on a cunty note. If you would have been a little nicer I would have acted accordingly.

>>6746709
This is what I was trying to say, and it's not the first time on this board that I've felt compelled to say it either.

I would love to try wearing female clothing (like Japanese school uniforms), but sadly I'm a hairy man with wide shoulders. I don't really see the point in cute clothes if you aren't cute yourself.

Women are really lucky when it comes to gender-specific clothing. Even if you don't like dressing feminine, you can always just wear stuff meant for men and no one will bat an eye.

>>6747335
Yeah, I wish society would stop seeing masculine as above feminine, that way it wouldn't be as "degrading" for men to wear feminine clothing. It's why women can be more flexible. Masculinity is so fragile yet so stubborn at the same time.

>>6747211
I suppose I'll try a final time: What determines whether you pass or not is not what your legs look like from a flattering angle.
It is your face.
When you don't post your face, I will assume you don't pass. You've only confirmed my suspicion by being so butthurt.

>tfw haven't had any (sexual) fantasies for weeks
Fucking fantastic. I don't want to sleep with anyone, I don't enjoy masturbation and now I can't even be comforted by my nice daydreams.
Fuck this. Fuck that.

>>6747211
flat ass, broad shoulders. no hon, you aren't passing

>>6753447
better get on some test to fix up that sex drive ;^)

How common is the female equivalent of AGP? I used to think I was that way but I'm actually trans.

>>6744754
>I guess all that stuff people say about AGP turning into normal female sexual desires with transition really was true after all.
That only helps is transition is an option.

>>6756757
I see the smiley but I'm still not sure if you're meme'ing or not.
Would that work? And if so, how do I into test?

>>6722549
This is what turns me on. Be a complete submissive girl in bed.

>>6757426
Me too, though in my situation a more feminine body would add to how hot that situation would be. It's hard, because sexually I want to look more like a girl but in a non-sexual context I'd like a more masculine appearance. The mid-way point of having a pussy and being able to be fucked from the front and being called a girl in bed while still being a guy in all other walks of life is super appealing to me and as a result I'm seriously considering SRS, maybe

>>6756762
We don't actually know because the dumbass who came up with AGP didn't think it exists. I've met a few on 4chan and they claim they know a bunch of others but that's not exactly concrete data.

>>6757461
SRS without hrt? Or am I misunderstanding?

>>6725968
Being aroused by the idea of yourself as a man isn't the same as being attracted to men in general. There's no contradiction. It's common to experience both, but not necessary.

>>6744754
I need more posts like this to give me courage..

>>6758083
Indeed. I know some people have done it in the past, but it's not the kind of thing that doctors usually perform.

>masturbating to "normal" hetero fantasies trying not to think about AGP stuff
>start thinking about innocent AGP stuff like how nice it would be to wear a dress, how pretty I'd like to look etc.
>fantasies slowly start getting dirtier the longer I go on
>edge for like an hour
>by the end I'm basically fantasizing about being a woman who's tied up and gangbanged
>cum
>"Holy shit that was disgusting! Why would I fantasize about something like that. Well I'm never gonna do that again."
>do it again a day or two later

Why does this keep happening? I'm honestly disgusted by my thoughts.

>>6762686
You don't choose the eyjipi life, the eyjipi life chooses you.

>>6762686
you might as well just roll with it and let yourself jerk off to what you want. there's literally L I T E R A L L Y nothing wrong with jerking off to whatever.
i feel like it's more stressful and harmful to get mad at yourself for this kind of stuff than just do what you want

>>6762854
Actually, there is. You're training yourself to cum to certain images and fantasies. When you have sex it's not going to be like that and it will be disappointing.

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>>6763024
>when you have sex

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>>6684429
What can you do if you really want to transition, but are not attracted to men at all?
There were like 2 men I was attracted to in my entire life...
Maybe transitioning will actually ruin my life?
I'm only in it for the domination, but manly faces and bodies don't do it for me at all...

>>6763118
1. are you going to get a gf if you don't transition?
2. if you get a gf are you going to be happy being with her as you are now and as you age? when she expects you to be the man and dominate her, when you're fucking her and really you want to trade places, when she's blowing you and you move one of her hands to your balls and then further without realizing it until you notice you really just want her to start holding you down and fingering your butthole?

>>6763118
become agp transbian

and when u get called
agp because you're a
transbian go: "LOL".

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I thought I'd gotten over this part of me, I honestly thought it was over until last week. Before that I had been free from all of this for months and I had strictly been getting off to straight fantasies / porn. Last week, I was so tired at work thay I had 2 energy drinks. The boost from the caffeine suddenly opened up to a lot of things that apparently had slept in my subconscious / had been repressed. Suddenly I found myself looking at gay cams for cock, I was literally drooling. I found myself craving for it and I found myself looking at lingerie, dresses, wigs and makeup.i was willing to let guys do whatever they wanted to me so I could feel as if I was a submissive female. As soon as I got home I found my old stash of clothing, wigs and sex toys. I had phonesex, I dressed and I got on cam despite being a manly, overweight hon. I found that a lot of fetishists were still willing to fuck me and it made me feel happy / warm. My body was shaking, my mind was racing and I was drunk on sissy vids / captions. I came without ever touching myself and then I broke down crying and shaking. Fuck these feelings and fuck this mindstate. I felt as if I was over it. I felt as if my curse through 12 years was over and all it took to bring it back was a powerful caffeine boost.

H-help me agp ;-;

Pic is not me btw. I will never look that good.

>>6763318

Consider whether fighting your AGP is just running from yourself. If it always comes back, then HRT is worth considering.

>>6763667
Not that person. I mean, some people should definitely consider transitioning but if it is just a sex thing for someone maybe they shouldn't?

>>6763746
Sometimes people can misunderstand it as being just a sex thing.

>>6764497
>Go find somewhere else honestly. AGP is just a sexual fetish, you aren't part of LGBT.
::TRIGGERED::

> Be fairly masculine twunk, 24 but still have degree of baby face
>Fap to idea of being a schoolgirl and wearing a school uniform
>Really want to be a schoolgirl going to school and in a cute school uniform

>No other desire to be girl or do girl things

Halp?

>>6765869
Sounds like the dysphoria-free fetish form, no? you're lucky.

>>6765885
No dysphoria at all, in fetish mode, I really want to be a girl, but I'm completely male and love my male aesthetic outside of it.

I thought about doing HRT to be more girlish, then realised it was a fucking stupid idea. I guess I'll just buy some really good boob and vagina prosthetics for when I go fetish mode.

>>6765909

So you plan on having sex in fetish mode or just dressing up?

>>6765999
Do plan on having sex in fetish mode

>>6765999
Also, I must add, I have to be wearing or imagining myself wearing a school uniform, otherwise there is no AGP at all. I still fap about wearing my school uniform when I'm guymode (although I can fap to gay sex as normal), but the schoolgirl thing is much much more intense.

>>6766184
Seems like you still identify as a guy then

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>>6763318

>>6769242
Added to my reaction folder. We should make more AGP memes.

>tfw mtf
>tfw sexually attracted to masculine hons in over-the-top frilly dresses
fug

>>6769300
What's the issue? That doesn't invalidate who you are.

Posted this in another thread, figure i may as well post here. I Like women and really dont like men. However i dont get aroused by thinking of me fucking a woman. I usually just selfinsert as the woman in my fantasies.

I have this ongoing fantasy where a woman, a trap/femboy/transgirl and a masc man fool around. I am always either the woman or the transgirl.

Im pretty positive im not gay. I have considered if im trans but i feel comfortable with myself in my daily life, mostly. Plus even if i did transition this would be socially unacceptable where i live and i would never pass in a million years. I dont feel dysphoria so not worth it.

In addition i had this crush on a girl since highschool (22 now). Up to this day she is ALWAYS the girl in the fantasy i mentioned earlier. She was so cool and kinda tomboyish. Never talked to her because she was pretty mean to almost everyone not in her direct social circle. She was also never very popular with other boys my age. I realize now i always wanted to be her, not really be with her.

I also realized that i had fantasies where i self insert as the girl since i was VERY young. Didnt even realize it at the time, but looking back its so obvious. I actually almost never fapped to straight porn. At first it was just lesbian porn or erotic stories from a female pov. Almost everything i ever fapped to i know realize i found hot because i inserted myself in the position of the girl.

Is this what they call AGP? How do i get off this ride? Is there a way to fix me w.o having to transition so i can enjoy sex more?

When i was 18 and just moved to study an older friend took me to a brothel. I went with one of the girls. I couldnt get hard at first and she just ended up jacking me off. Pretty pathetic desu but it was my first time and back then i just chalked it up to nervousness and feeling terrible about actually paying a poor girl for sex. Now im thinking i just cant enjoy straight sex or something.

>>6773165
>Is this what they call AGP?
yes

>How do i get off this ride?
You never get off Mr. Blanchard's Wild Ride

>Is there a way to fix me
no

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If you could pass easily on a few months hormones, would you transition?

I often think I'm just AGP and not trans, but the longer I don't transition, the less chance I have. I'm 19 atm and I think I'm finally hitting puberty properly. If I don't get on hormones now then I guess I never will. But I also don't want to base my entire life around some AGP fetish, assuming it is one.

So anyway, what do?

>>6774354
>If you could pass easily on a few months hormones, would you transition?
I'm not even sure whether I'm genuinely trans but I'd do that for sure just to see if I feel better about myself and the AGP feels go away like so many transwomen said they did for them. At worst I'd detransition.

Won't happen though. I'm unpassable and 25. The pain is getting worse as time goes on.

>I often think I'm just AGP and not trans, but the longer I don't transition, the less chance I have. I'm 19 atm and I think I'm finally hitting puberty properly. If I don't get on hormones now then I guess I never will. But I also don't want to base my entire life around some AGP fetish, assuming it is one.

See this discussion.
>>6768489
>>6768712
>>6769802
>>6770117
>>6770297
>>6770305

You need to figure yourself out. One way to do this is to go over your life. If you share your story maybe we can help.

>>6773165
Check out the links I posted.

>>6764979
Maybe it should be expanded to "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, People with all-consuming sexual fetishes that define their sexuality and life in general"?

In all honesty that has some merit.

I dont consider myself trans but I'm defimetely AGP. Luckily I've got a very androgynous face and I'm more or less happy with my body but I really want a more feminine ass. I've made it as feminine as possible through exercises but it just isn't enough and that's killing me.

I'm considering hormones for dat fat redistribution but I'm actually scared of getting tits. Any thoughts? Is the ass possible without the tits?

>>6778181

You could try breastnexus.com they have a wide spread of tips. I want to people have had luck with fish oil mixed with vitamin e, but Ive never been able to gut it out and commit to a regiment.
*sigh*

>>6778181

Look into tamoxifen.


>>6778280

I thought they were dedicated to growing breasts?

So I'm a guy that wants a feminine body, but doesn't feel like transitioning. Is hrt for me? Will doctors even give me prescriptions if I'm not suicidal and just in it for the aesthetics?

>>6781038
if you want a feminine body, take hormones. you don't have to transition. some doctors might prescribe it but you can always self med

>>6781038
>>6781487
Hormones are serious fucking business with very real health repercussions. Don't be triggerhappy. This is not a decision to make lightly.

>>6781674
they really aren't

>>6781751
How so?

>>6781868
because its not thyroid hormones we are talking about

>>6763318
>Everybody talks about how strong their agp comes back and they want to go hrt
>Nobody talks about how when on hrt social pressures make them get off it

I just learned about this existing from /r9k/ (I don't post on this board)

does it mean I'm gay or what

>>6782545
No.

Read the whole thread.

>>6782685
To be honest this incarnation of the thread is kind of awful. Don't really know what happened. We used to have a lot of thoughtful discussion.

>>6764056
> any kind of sexual/mental disorder
> go on HRT rn !!

go on HRT of /lgbt/ is like the install gentoo of /g/

>>6736508
100% I have always been submissive as fuck, very feminine during sex, don't really like being jerked off during sex. I really want a vagina but don't really care about breasts, they seem impractical... Got triggered the other day when someone called me sir, felt good when my sister called me a girl for being a wuss about something.

Basically feel like a woman socialised as man from birth, like I'd be a Tomboy if I were a girl

Fucking kill me

>>6783542
Archlinux master race.

>>6712556
try /r/traaaaaaaaaaaansssssssss

it's the meme subreddit of /r/asktranny, you can find it in their subsection.

>>6783542
I didn't say they should go on hrt you retard I meant they should think deeply, maybe seek therapy, and try to figure out if what they believe is just a fetish might be something more.

>AGP all my life
>24
>overweight (180)
>still living with family who wouldn't support transitioning
>I'll never be a real woman anyways nor will I pass at this stage

hahaha time for death~

>>6783542
Install estrogen

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>grow hair chin length
>tfw male features like fat nose and wide jaw stick out like a nigger in japan
>cut hair short
>tfw look like a lesbian

>>6786808
holy shit same, i look way more masculine with long hair than i do with shorter hair

long hair isn't for everyone

>>6786793
I was going to post "install vagina" but you beat me to it.

>>6786808
>>6786824
I think it's also you need to know how to style long hair or it will just look like messy boy hair.

>>6786491
>overweight
>180 pounds
Fucking manlet

>>6788281
Somehow, I don't think they really give a shit.

>>6788455
Anon, I have to call out manlets.

>>6788550
what if they're womanlet tho

>>6788768
>AGP
>I'll never be a real woman
He's not.

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someone photoshopped a wig on me and i cant stop looking at myself

>>6788877
maybe they're in denial tho

>tfw have sex fantasies again
Is nice. Sadly they're still all AGP, but it's nice to know I have a sex drive again.

>>6788983
I do get these weird feelings in my stomach when I have my fantasies. Each "scene" only lasts a few seconds, and my stomach feels like a bubble bursts. I'm not sure what to make of that

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>really want to transition
>terrified of the social stigma and potential long term effects of hormones
A clerk at a store reffered to me as a woman the other day and I've been trying to ignore it but oh god it felt nice.
help

>>6788993
>tfw you will never be his perfect little slut, being dicked in the vag every day, multiple times per day
>he will never choke you while fucking you doggy
I forgot how painful this is

>>6789129
Social stigma will probably always be there but really the health risks of hrt are exaggerated.

>>6712040
I'm AGP scum, Blanchard

>>6788281
Found the fatass

>>6788993

Uh, you can be gay and do that. It's what I do.

>>6789856
They're agp fantasies not gay ones though

>>6789935

You can't just crossdress? Also

>>6788913

Why has no one told me I'm pretty come on guys :(

>>6684429 >>6686266 >>6686292 >>6740768
>>6763118 >>6763318 >>6765909 >>6773165
Christ, legbutts, you all have massive fucking issues.

Having erotic fantasies is perfectly normal and healthy.... until you freaks start reading way too much into things, or act like you have some hideous disorder, or you act out your fantasies in inappropriate ways, or you harbor intense feelings of guilt because you're a retarded Puritan who's afraid of sex and the human body.

Let me "enlighten" you dweebs: there is no difference between erotic fantasies and fantasies from books, movies, games, etc. It's all the same shit, the only difference is that it's easier and more fun to masturbate than it is to pretend you're a detective like Sherlock Holmes, or wield a fake lightsaber like Luke Skywalker, or go out paintballing and pretend you're a pretty cool guy killing aleins like Halo.

Why would any dude not imagine themselves as a futa in fantasies? You get to be a hot chick AND you can still fuck women if you want. You don't have to be a manly man in fantasies, and imagining submissive fantasies doesn't make you less of a man in real life, so please, for the love of all that is holy, forget the Freudian crap and come to >>>/d/

>>6790054
okay thank you

>>6790054
>there is no difference
>the only difference is that
Before anyone gets their panties in a twist, I'd like to point out that the "difference" is in how you act out the fantasies. In your head, it should all be the same shit.

>>6788281
5'7"
Not that you want to be tall if you think you may be trans

>>6789994
Because you're not pretty

>>6790460

Damn, anon. That really hurt.

>>6790054
>m-my hermaphrodite fetish is t-totally n-normal you guys!
/d/ is such a strange place
>>6789856
What he said. He idea of having sex with my body isn't arousing at all.
Only the idea of having sex as a girl does.

>>6790054
I can't tell whether you're a troll or an actual idiot.

>>6789129
If stigma is the main issue and you're convinced that you would do better as a woman otherwise (i.e. it is not just a sex thing) then you should give this some serious thought. These thoughts rarely leave adults once they set in. Share your story. Maybe we can help.

>>6789129
>terrified of the social stigma and potential long term effects of hormones

Is going stealth an option? Basically all trans stigma will go away for you

>>6791665
that's not an option for 90% of even trannies...

>>6791606

How do you know that and I'm curious, are you trans?

>>6792321
>How do you know that?
I recall reading about how the desire to transition comes and goes in children, teenagers and even young adults, with the majority eventually deciding they're fine with their birth sex (or at least reporting that). On the other hand adults rarely if ever change their mind or stop experiencing dysphoria naturally.

>Are you trans?
Wish I knew!

>>6792673

I'm just wondering if it's the newfags or if you genuinely believe that the person you're talking to, who is posting an anime girl avatar in /LGBT/ and talking about being called cute, is over thirty.

But for the record, you shouldn't transition if you're over by, I would say 20, and not Adorably cute. Sorry but we all can recognize man hands and man shoulders, and those things will be developed by then. It's just a lie people tell themselves, but you can't really become a real life girl and so you should probably stop and just chalk that period of your life up to poor judgment.

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>>6792701
>you should probably just stop

>>6792734

Not sure how that would help anyone. And I'm someone with dusmorphia myself.

>>6791606

I thought conventional agp starts during puberty and is for life.

The idea of trans children desisting is now being questioned. Its because desistance studies didn't control for trans vs gender non comforming and not everyone was followed up on.

>>6789129

Social stigma is why I never even bothered crossdressing.

>>6791606

I thought conventional agp starts during puberty and is for life.

The idea of trans children desisting is now being questioned. Its because desistance studies didn't control for trans vs gender non comforming and not everyone was followed up on.

>>6789129

Social stigma is why I never even bothered crossdressing.

>>6793364
>I thought conventional agp starts during puberty and is for life.
My impression is that's how it goes for people who stay AGP over the long term. From conversing with quite a few people in this thread AGP is also heralded by pre-puberty genderbending fantasies starting from ages 4-8. However some people "grow out of it" before they reach adulthood, or at least report they do.

>The idea of trans children desisting is now being questioned. Its because desistance studies didn't control for trans vs gender non comforming and not everyone was followed up on.
I'm just following the currently available data. If you think it is questionable I'd genuinely love to hear why. I don't have a strong opinion on the desistance debate.

>>6789129
>already passing without hormones
>worried about stigma
kys scum

new thread when?