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Gay General - The Illusion Of Choice Edition

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It's all about the illusion of choice and the complete control of the masses. The oligarchy meets secretly amongst themselves and decides which of them will volunteer to run for election. Some run as left wing, and some as right, pretending to be in opposition.

This is the Hegelian dialectic in action. It gets back to the illusion of choice.

Hegelian dialectic, usually presented in a threefold manner, was stated by Heinrich Moritz Chalybäus as comprising three dialectical stages of development: a thesis, giving rise to its reaction, an antithesis, which contradicts or negates the thesis, and the tension between the two being resolved by means of a synthesis.

For example when people are talking about 2 political parties, Republican or Democrat, what they’re actually referring to, without realizing it, is the thesis and the antithesis based off the Hegelian Dialectic. The only real debate that occurs is just the minor differences between those two parties. Nothing is said or done about the issues that neither left or right is discussing. This in particular will become more apparent as the election draws near.

Almost all major events in history employ the Hegelian Dialectic of: Problem – manufacture a crisis or take advantage of one already in place in order to get the desired Reaction of public outcry whereby the public demands a Solution which has been predetermined from the beginning. A classic example is 9/11.

The centrally controlled mass media gives 100% media coverage to the predetermined candidates and no coverage to anybody else. On election day electronic voting machines automatically change the winning votes to the predetermined candidates. Meanwhile, the populace feels their vote actually matters, even though it is the electoral college which actually casts the votes. The electoral college is a small group of establishment handlers who tow the party line every time and ignore the will of the people.

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What kind of undies do you prefer your bf to wear ?
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>>6631619
none so he becomes the antithesis to the undie wearing me and we can synthesize the fuck out of each other

am I doing it right, OP?
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>>6631619

none, lingerie is for girls
and underwear is a waste of money
why does anyone need underwear?
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why dont u dialect my dick and balls
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>>6631629
You were jeans without pants on?
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>>6631642
wear*
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>>6631619
Either jockstraps or boxer briefs.

A cheeky g string now then doesn't hurt for him to please me
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>>6631619
>your bf
i don't understand the question
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>>6631640
Good one.
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>tfw no bf to dialect his dick with my ass
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>>6631619
Would love loose boxers, preferably in muted greens, blues, and reds.
This is also the perfect set of pajamas for cuddles.
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DNC Convention Day 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fw7XiCJL4M
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>>6631810

horrible singing, but at least the mexiboy tried
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>>6631815
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Off to a good start so far.
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>>6631619
Loose boxers. Come off easy and look cute when we're snuggling in bed.
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>>6631785
Explain the mechanics of this. Does it require any special aperatus?
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>>6631824
>gay and has aids
>forgets to state that he's black as well
>fucks over blind audience
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>>6631602
>The electoral college is a small group of establishment handlers who tow the party line every time and ignore the will of the people.
How common are faithless electors?
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>>6631619
anything package and butt enhancing
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>>6631619
trunks to show off ass/package, boxers to cuddle
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How easy is it to find a gay guy who basically acts straight, wants his bf to act feminine and crossdress and be his housewife, and treats his bf like a girl and even uses female pronouns for him?

>>6631619
Loose boxers made with a soft fabric.

>>6631629
What's wrong with girls and lingerie?
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>>6632089
so a straight guy into transwomen?
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>>6631619
>wearing clothes

????

>>6631629
The only right answer
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>>6631629
>lingerie is for girls
It doesn't have to be.
>why does anyone need underwear
Warmth, protection, supports your balls and keeps them from sagging, allows the removal of other items of clothing without exposing the most delicate parts of the body
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>>6631619
My bf wears calvin klein boxer briefs and he likes when i wear panties or small boxer brief/hipsters desu
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>>6632133
What're 'hipsters'?
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>>6631619
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>>6632089
>How easy is it to find a gay guy who basically acts straight, wants his bf to act feminine and crossdress and be his housewife, and treats his bf like a girl and even uses female pronouns for him?
That's a tranny chaser. They probably won't consider themselves gay, or you a man. Just present yourself as a chick with a dick online. You'll have more luck in femgen or mtfgen, although if you don't intend to transition you might run into trouble.
If you want to find a man who considers himself gay and who considers you a man, but wants you to crossdress and wants to treat you like a girl, well, you're probably not going to find that. Especially the housewife bit which assumes he's rich enough to keep a housewife (and if he is, then you'd better be incredibly attractive and skilled at housework and cooking).
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>>6632076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyVPyKrx0Xo
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>>6632174
womens underwear that look like this
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>>6632226
You can get mens ones ;_;
>>6632174
Liek small boxer briefs
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>>6632226
>>6632240
So what stops your circulation from being cut off and your testicles dying?
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>>6632246
That isnt a problem? Its just kind of snug, its okay. They can be pretty nice and comfy
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>>6632261
You mean your testicles aren't two feet across? Wow. What a freak.
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>>6632097
Yes except without me being a woman and with him still being into me.

>>6632218
>although if you don't intend to transition you might run into trouble.
That's the problem.

>You'll have more luck in femgen or mtfgen,
Don't you need to be physically feminine for that?

>If you want to find a man who considers himself gay and who considers you a man,
I don't want either of those honestly.

>Especially the housewife bit which assumes he's rich enough to keep a housewife
He doesn't have to be. I'd just like him to have that kind of relationship with me that that would work between us if he was rich enough.

>>6632133
Where did you find your bf?
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>>6632225
Funny you mention it, because Greg Erwin (the waiter) is just my type
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>>6632284
You don't have to worry about that, because you're clearly a small penis'd retard.
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>>6632290
The politically correct term is micropeen. check your vocab.
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>>6632286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPKAwJKGSDc
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>>6632276
Online? Both twinkish but he just likes me being more 'cute'
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Tfw no bf?
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>>6631642
>tfw you get so high, you become jeans
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>>6632328
>white boys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXRviuL6vMY
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>>6632362
I corrected it in the next post, bully.
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>>6632309
>that img

Do you want to fuck that guy or do you want him to fuck you?

Relevant because that's basically me. Minus the model potential.
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>>6632380
>both
>verse masterrace
>no thanks
>I gotta husband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6b9JpBFjd4
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>>6632415
I just have extreme insecurities about my baldness that I compensate by being ripped.
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>>6631619
How much of a turn off would it be if I seem masc but wear panties?
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>>6632362
And I swear in that moment
we were denim
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>>6632437
Well, why not? Baldness isn't damaging to looks. Just rock it out any way you can.


>tfw can't take Francesco Yates afro childlike face seriously
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvC_0foemLY
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>>6632355
Just me again huh. Alright.
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>>6632472
Too busy watching movies while drunk lad.
>tfw no bf to lean on while we watch movies.
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>>6632443
Huge turn off.
I like the idea of dominating a masc and treating him like a bitch in bed, but having him wear panties is a dealbreaker.
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>>6632477
Sounds pretty good. Drinkers ain't thinkers though.
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>>6632472
You'll find him someday clowny
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HELP

my boyfriend wants me to top him, but i am like a complete bottom and have trouble staying hard with a condom on as well so im not sure ill even be able to maintain an erection let alone please him

i have 2 days before we meet up, is there anything I can do to improve my performance/psyche myself up for the task?
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>>6632487
Age and location?
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>>6632487
>cesaros
He's a handsome fella.
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>>6632455
I want these, these are cute
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>>6632488
I'm not an alky, i swear.
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I just found out my crush's ex has a humongous cock. Rope or bullet?
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>>6632511
Both, just to be safe.
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>>6632525
But then it won't look like suicide anymore?
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>tfw Pokemon Go doesn't work on my phone
Maybe that's a good thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvc73JCcTuI
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>>6632378
>tfw bully

>:3
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>>6632544
Hold old is your phone?
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>>6632555
It's not old just junky. Off brand shit that works well, is very cheap, but just not best. As soon as the screen pops up for loading it fails and goes back to the phone screen.
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>>6632493
Pretty sure I'm statistically more likely to die young. You have to be scientific about these things. It's all in the numbers.

>>6632509
Are you drinking alone though? That's a pretty big warning sign there, chum.

>>6632511
Just grow your own bigger through force of will.

>>6632544
Pokemon go is kinda crummy as a game though. It's more like a stepcounter than a game.
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>eating breakfast with bf and his friend
>im quite a quiet person
>he can be quite brash
>cant finish it all
>he looks at my plate
>starts loudly making suggestive jokes about me usually being okay with eating sausage
>in the middle of a diner
>mfw
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>>6632583
Clowny what are your top 9 games of all time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjiyjYCwNyY
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>>6632583
Maybe i do have a problem, but it hasn't effected my life so far, i just get drunk twice a week or something at night.
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>>6632593
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>>6632569
Ah okay
That sucks, but if the phone suit your needs
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>>6632603
I'm not paying $60+ a month for convenience.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1m3XncKyL0
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>>6632586
I wonder if girls get the same feels from their bfs.
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>>6632590
I dunno, like, Planescape: Torment, Grim Fandango, FF7, Undertale despite the backlash. Spent a lot of time on TF2 way back when. Diablo 2 too. Hard to say really.

>>6632593
Ayyyyy.

>>6632595
You could always try cutting down for your health anyway, even if it isn't much of a problem yet. It would make a rando faggot online happier at any rate.
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>>6632614
You work don't you?
Is the cost of living that expensive where you live?
The way I see it is we all depend on our phones so much nowadays that it justifies buying a nice phone.

Good song though +1
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will my bf know if i take viagra?
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>>6632619
Grim Fandango is pretty decent, though the control makes me want to kill myself and yeah i should probably start cutting down, its not ale so its not making me fat though.
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>rooming with fellow homo
>loud and crazy twink
>surprisingly doesn't like to party so he's home almost always
>insults me constantly but in a joking way
>hits on me half the time
>mad at me over something dumb as shit the other half
>either loudly fighting with or getting fucked by his boyfriend
>can't tell which is going on right now

Save me from this gay nightmare
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turn around bright eyes
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>>6632590
I too am a 90s gaymr gurl.
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>>6632636
Yeah, kinda the problem with being such an early 3D game.

It was mostly the atmosphere and characters that were the selling point though. I liked the poems.
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I saw my ex boyfriend for the first time in 8 months. One thing lead to another and I ended up blowing him.
I don't know how I feel about this.
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>>6632662
the music is pretty good as well.
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>>6632658
same gurl
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>>6632648
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwFS69nA-1w
>>6632658
You're a mean person I don't like you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On3etueeGIg
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>>6632645
your fault for letting it happen tho. what's some shit he says to you?
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>>6632496
viagra
turning bottoms into temporary verse bottoms since 1998
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>>6632697
yeah i just thought about that

do you think he'll be able to tell though? i dont want him to feel unattractive or anything
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>>6632583
>Pretty sure I'm statistically more likely to die young. You have to be scientific about these things. It's all in the numbers.
Just lower your standards, get on grindr, and then go out of your way to spend time with your mediocre trick. It's not hard and what any gay guy going through a forever alone crisis does
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>>6631602
It's easy, just stop being Gay
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>>6632669
Can't really remember the music to be honest.

>>6632705
I'd have to stop being crazy to begin with. Been working on that for long enough now that I've lost all hope.
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>>6632682
Feeling's mutual.

>>6632675
Fix ur eyebrows, sweetie.
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>>6632705
Easy way to get AIDS
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>>6632617
Maybe? Its just teasing, he does it all the time, sometimes its cute but he can be so embarrassing in public, he'll make jokes about sex stuff we've done or touch/comment on my ass around friends, most of which are straight. I think it probably sucks if your bf laughed with his friend about you sucking his dick regardless of gender
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>>6632721
Eww gross
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>>6632627
But if his phone does everything he needs then how does that justify buying a new phone just to play pokemans?
>>6632635
viagra doesn't actually guarantee a dick like diamonds every time, but the giveaway would be if you look kinda flushed since it dilates all your blood vessels. also if you do poppers on viagra you die.
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>>6632718
keep your jealousy in check mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07gHtr3oqs8
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>>6632675
I miss when you were banned and i could go 30 seconds without seeing you attenion seeking and posting pictures of yourself
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>>6632728
Exactly!! But he thinks he's hilarious
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>>6632645
>he's home almost always
>insults me constantly but in a joking way
>hits on me half the time
>mad at me over something dumb as shit the other half
christ until you mentioned boyfriend i assumed you two were basically boyfriends
>>6632717
duh, just go for someone sufficiently below you that they'll settle for the crazy, or just go for someone as crazy for you and strap in
>>6632720
condoms you retard
sometimes i think people on /lgbt/ think you can get aids from just looking at another man with lust in your eyes
american sex ed has a lot to answer for
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>>6632635
>turning an anti-feminist comic into a pro-feminist one
WHY
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>>6632739
You should stop sucking his wiener if he embarrasses you about it
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I ordered pink shoes online and plan to wear them in public.
Is this socially acceptable?
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>>6632686
He seemed perfectly sane when I first talked to him about rooming together. Unfortunately I'm not financially in a place where I can break my lease and get another place to live. Plus it could be worse, I guess. He's just really fucking annoying and we're not compatible at all.

>gives me shit for being a virgin
>gives me shit for not being sure if I like guys or anyone at all
>If I fuck something up he never misses an opportunity to give me shit about it and act like I'm an idiot
>constantly makes fun of the way I look/dress and the fact that I'm pretty introverted
>his idiot boyfriend usually chimes in
>yet he makes everything I do and say into some kind of innuendo
>frequently implies I want to fuck him
>gropes me from time to time and is just generally too touchy
>tried to coerce me into "experimenting" with him to figure out if I like guys or not
>does most of this shit in front of idiot boyfriend and they wind up fighting about it
>yet he and idiot boyfriend tried to convince me to have a three way with them when they were drunk

As long as I stay in my room and keep the door shut it's semi-bearable. What's worse is I think I might be starting to like this guy I know. He wants to hang out, but I'm worried that if I bring him back to where I live my roommate will either hit on him or weird him out.
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>>6632746
Queers are born with AIDS, you just need to stop being Gay
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>>6632751
When are you starting HRT?
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>>6632751
No that is worse than being a faggot
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>>6632746
How many guys do you think would be into someone who literally hasn't gone outside in years and is too afraid to talk to people? I mean, they'd have to be pretty crazy too. And crazy people probably shouldn't get together.
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>>6632771
Go to the gym, I thought fags were into that stuff
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>>6632748
the original comic wasn't anti feminist, it was just one of the surreal gunshow comics
people realised its exploitability re:annoying groups who won't ever shut the fuck up (like tumblr feminists and the alt-right) and thus it picked up from there
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>>6632732
Why would I be jealous of things I already have?
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>>6632765
Never. I'm not even fem, I just like the color pink.
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>>6632776

lmao

>>6632748

>thinking that laughing at altrighers makes a comic feminist
reevaluate ur life
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>>6632775
What is wrong with the alt right
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>>6632721
Have you considered... iunno... talking to him about it? Along the lines of
>BF, I'm sick of you embarrassing me in front of my friends all the time. Your constant sex jokes and groping make me feel incredibly uncomfortable. I don't care if you think this is me being oversensitive or having no sense of humour about it, because I am telling you right now that you are making me feel like shit, and you're my boyfriend and you're not supposed to make me feel like shit. I'm not interested in hearing you try to rationalise this behaviour, I'm just telling you that you need to stop doing it.
That should sort it out.
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>>6632776
You have nothing and it's pretty obvious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ee_caX5R90
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>>6632786

mediocre bait
take it to pol, it doesnt belong here
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>>6632774
I mean, I did just say I haven't been outside in years. Going to the gym doesn't seem likely.
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>>6632789
>Nothing
Now now, that's no way to talk about your husband.
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>>6632734
Oh no someone posted a joke photo of themselves
MODS
fuck off, kid

>>6632730
Nah I thought he was complaining about how he wanted a nicer phone
And I was agreeing that it'd probably be justified
I do not recommend buying a new phone just to play pokemon go though haha

>>6632804
10/10
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>>6632801
Oh ok I thought when you said you were crazy you meant the "I do loads of drugs and get irrationally angry and if my boyfriend upsets me I'll cut my arms with a razor and bleed on him" crazy, not the "I have literally not left my house in years" crazy. What have you been doing to be less crazy, and are there any ways you can improve your de-crazy-fying?
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>>6632843
I have no idea. It's been years though. I think if I was going to do anything by myself I probably would've done it already. It's an issue.
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>>6632746
Sweet gentle Jesus no. If I do wind up being into guys, I don't think her be he type I want a relationship with. He's kind of hard for me to be around because he's loud and has zero boundaries and he's also really conceited. It's kind of annoying to hear him re-tell the same stories about how strangers approach him and call him gorgeous/stunning/etc., say he should model or act, how he "turned" so many straight guys because he's so good-looking, that sort of thing. The way he talks about himself, you would think that the world falls at his feet every time he walks out the door. I'm not sure how muh of it is true, but listening to him talk about himself all the time gets old after a bit.

This weekend we were at a party and this guy gave me his number. My roommate was livid (even though his idiot boyfriend was there). He told me the guy was only hitting on me because he was sorry for me, that I couldn't get a fuck in a brothel and that I wasn't even the main character in my own story. He was so mad I wound up having to Uber home.
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Alright gaygen here's the skinny. I'm a go-go dancer now and one of the places I dance at is allowing me to bring a 30 minute mix for my set.

If any of you guys listen to house music, dance music or even darkwave(I prefer this) post some links of songs you really enjoy so I can put this playlist together.

Obviously I can put it together myself, but I thought it would be fun to do it here.
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>Go pokemon hunting with straight crush and friends
>Blaze it before we go, one friend tries to get me to smoke more after I say no, crush steps up and says to let me be because I'm not as used to it and I haven't eaten yet
>He's evolving pokemon, I say they should invent a skip button, he whispers "Finally something we can agree on"
>After eating, me and him go on his car to crash at friend's house, he puts on this song on the radio about running away or whatever and tells me to listen closely to it
>Drives really fast and asks me if I'm scared
>Arrive at friend's house, it's like fucking 40
ºC so we all just take off our shirts and chill/blaze it some more
>I start falling asleep, I hear him talking about sleeping there too but he remembered he had brought his car and because of that couldn't stay
>Don't talk to him again since, two days passed

I'm acting like a woman, please make it stop, I always wanted to be chill, but I just can't, I'm so distressed

Like shit straight people have no clue how easy it is to interpret signals. I get hit on by women a lot and it's so damn obvious how frustrated and how they start trying harder and falling out of subtlety if you reject it
>"Oh hey anon don't come in yet I dont have pants on"
>"It's ok I'm gonna take a piss"
>"Don't worry you can come in, it's not that bad, it's like I'm on the beach
and you can be damn sure I gave no shits and went to take my piss, and she STILL had to go out of her way to show me her underwear after she was dressed "SEE, IT'S NOT THAT BAD"

BUT WITH GUYS? GUYS WHO AREN'T OUT AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY LIKE DICK? FUCKING FRUSTRATION
>"Dude, your eyes look soo red"
Okay so I know you've been looking at my eyes nigger what do I make of that? I don't want to jump to conclusions, but shit

And worse of all is that I have nowhere to vent aside from a Ugandan Glass Flute Making Imageboard
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>>6632935
do an interpretive dance of heart and soul by joy division
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>>6632935
>go go dancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4DV2b8s5v4
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>>6632960
Lol I'll do a ribboning act

>>6632966
Yeah and one of the bars I'm becoming a regular on bear night.
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>>6632932
this guy sounds insufferable.
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>>6632976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkiUUyIvZOo
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>>6632935

TRST by Trustwas literally made for this. Listen to this album. The album Joyland by is dancier and I perform drag to it. It's perfect for clubs, and it's a but darker
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>>6632997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KYSIDJ7Nz4
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>>6632997
I kind of made the same expression out of confusion but the promoter just likes me said he wanted to book me.
Also keep the music coming. The first link is way better than the second one

>>6633000
I'll check it out bc dub dubs and a trip don't lie. Dark is what I prefer
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>>6633016
>not liking deutsch musik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjyVRCm7QnU
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>>6633016
If you want to be a traditional go go dancer then dance to traditional go go music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4
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>>6633024
Just not that pop punk stuff. It's gogo dancing. I'm not skanking The Night Away lol

>>6633000
This is good
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>>6633016

Some of my favorite tracks by TRST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXQmzzq8Nb4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bhEqZlbHeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1trj1quCNGw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muURnXfGYGA
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>>6633039
Yeah it kind of has to be because of the clientele.
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>>6632997
This is garbage music. Karneval has to be one of the worst cultural events any country ever has.
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>>6633069
>caring how other people have fun
>being a party pooper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMUDVMiITOU
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>>6633085
this is objectively
I'm talking as a German
Karneval as an event just produces heaps of garbage
It wastes tons and tons of paper each year for gallons of confetti to be thrown around
Each year it ends up that multiple fist fights ruin the fun for everyone because people get so black out drunk that they get crazy aggressive
the police, firefighters and paramedic have their hands incredibly full with drunken peasants petty shit and innumerous people taking the booze to far

It's a shitfest, has nothing to do with wanting to have a good time, only something to do with wanting to get fucked up

I'm speaking as a German, Octoberfest is miles better. Karneval is shit.
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>>6632804
Sick burn. Gave me a good chuckle too.
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I want to fight with senpai.
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>>6633133

Square up, ho.
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>>6633058
There's only two albums right?
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>>6633135
No face punching
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>>6633153
TRST and Joyland are full albums, with some floaters on youtube like Slug and the Dazzle
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>guy putting out romance vibes
>lives on the other side of the world
Living is pain
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>>6633180
Just immigrate. Problem solved.
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>>6633185
If only...
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>>6633171
I'll check em all out.
Do you listen to any aggressive music like Phosgore?
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>>6633168

I'm gonna punch your asshole with my cock

>>6633180

Buy him plane tickets duh
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>>6633203
He said he was going to take a trip in a year or two to the States to visit a bunch of friends and mentioned something about making a special trip to the midwest for me~

I, on the other hand, am currently unemployed and unable to afford rent let alone plane tickets. Maybe once I finally have a job in my degree field I"ll be able to afford it.
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>>6632890
>I think if I was going to do anything by myself I probably would've done it already.
So... that's a no to therapy and meds? If you can't think of what you've been doing to be less crazy, then probably you weren't actually trying
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>>6633201
No I'm fairly typically gay when it comes to music. My favorite band is of Montreal
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>>6633214

Here's hopin bruh

>>6632935

Dance to E*MO*TION
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>>6633242
not bad taste
https://youtu.be/eeLLjJFNKSI
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>>6633242
Aw fag why lol well thanks for the TRST lol
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>>6633201
french pop remixes are usually p good dance music
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>>6633232
Yeah, it kind of supports my 'I'm a worthless piece of crap' theory.
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>>6633257
I skipped my emo phase in high school do I'm listening to lots of midwest, twinkly, and 90s emo and my favorite movie is Mean Girls.

I'm a goddamned mess!
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>>6633255
Yeah I guess. I've never been in a relationship before though and I can just feel my brain thinking of ways to screw it up :V
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>>6633281
>I skipped my emo phase in high school
Don't remind me.
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>RedDread asks for recommendations from specific genres of music
>People post inappropriate music because they like it and then try to shill for it
Jesus Christ
Try these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok8g9b27i6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQdxyhUNNbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULC2C3VjO-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlP8oC8sGIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVkU9LwxRPQ
there's a remix of this out there that'd probably fit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2UZ7BGRkE4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqqrcuBUMSY
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>>6632355
Can confirm
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>>6633312
ps if you do the dance from 90s by nature you'll get loads of tips
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>>6632935
Dance to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxRe4JzTHk

Give yourself a Nomi Malone vibe with an 80s aerobics twist.
Gotta have a gimmick, Dusty Daddy. I'll let you push me down some stairs when you git gud enough.
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>>6633343
Snap. Let's complain pointlessly.
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>>6633358
this is my go-to dance track
https://youtu.be/QI4O8byPw7g
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>>6633265
>I can't get a boyfriend because I'm too crazy.
>I've been trying not to be crazy but it's not working
>The way I've been trying not to be crazy is by doing nothing
Right listen here faggot
If you have health insurance from your parents or whatever and your parents are still awake, tell them you want to go to see a doctor ASAP. If they're asleep, write down on a piece of paper right now (NOW. You're reading this, so write it down) in big letters that you're going to ask them tomorrow.
Failing that, go Google how to go to a doctor without healthcare in your state. Right now. I don't know where you live so I can't do it for you.
TOMORROW MORNING - Set an alarm on your phone, and another one on your laptop if needs be - you are going to make an appointment with your local doctor, and then you can talk to your doctor about how nuts you are and he can get you moving.
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>>6632544
>tfw pokemon go dosent work because intel processors not supported
m-maybe it will work next time
>>6633362
on another note, do you like order food or something if you dont go out ?
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>>6633371
I never said I've been doing anything. I said it's been years and I haven't done anything. Get yourself some reading comprehension.

>>6633374
Live with parents.
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>>6633398
>I never said I've been doing anything. I said it's been years and I haven't done anything. Get yourself some reading comprehension.
So instead of doing anything in the post, you decided to pick up on that?
Go ask your parents right now if you're on their health insurance, and tell them you want to speak to a doctor. Do it now. No, don't fucking reply to me, get up and go ask them now.
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>>6633408
You're being way too obvious. You'll never make me upset like that. Improve your method.
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>>6631602
>bf found the extreme sissy porn
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>>6633433
Yours? Implying what?
He's gonna go full sissy or give you a hatchet wound?
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>>6633433
>bf found the gay cuckold porn blogs I follow
>asks if I want him to cuck me
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>>6633433
>mfw he finds your gfur porn
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>>6633470
You've been posting bara furry for a million years now. How would that be a surprise.
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>>6633416
You idiot, I'm not trying to upset you. I'm trying to make you go find out your health insurance status so you can work out how to get a mental health consultation.
You're not addressing anything because it seems like a sisyphean task, but if you just do one step at a time it's a lot easier. Are you on your parents' health insurance? Yes or no? If you don't know, go find out now and explain you want to see a doctor.
If you respond without doing this, tell me why you haven't done it.
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>>6633456
>tfw your boyfriend found your castration porn and broke up with you because he thought you were going to castrate him in the night
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>>6633487
Didn't read lmao.
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>>6633495
Well, were you?
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>>6633433
>tfw no bf to find my porn
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>>6633470

P sure jupp knew you were furscum already
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>>6633312
Omg thank you anon, you're the best

This is one of my favorite songs to dance to
https://youtu.be/M1g2Ch6X59Y
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What is it called when a guy isn't feminine or androgynous but he isn't what you'd see in mascgen either? Not-fat straight guy look?
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>>6633498
Good God, no, I'd never do something like that to someone against their will!
I knew he went through some of my porn because he surprised me in the shower a couple of months ago by getting down on his knees and asking me to piss all over him (he later said he guessed there were kinks I was keeping quiet about) but... yeah. There's a lot of text stories I have about muscular guys being forcibly castrated/nullified and then their huge muscles wasting away because they've lost their manhood, jocks being taught a lesson etc. etc. and he's quite a bit more muscular than me.
I had been hoping to see if he was into ball torture, which is as far as I'd take it. I wouldn't castrate anyone unless they really wanted me to.
>tfw no wannabe eunuch jock bf
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>>6633720
Normal?
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>>6633746
yeah, but normal and they still take care of themselves and aren't lazy slobs and no long hair or a buzz cuts

I'm a fan of that
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>>6633742
This exists and people get freaked out by MY fetish...
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>>6633762
yes the term for that is "most gay men". maybe the more idealized/extreme version would be considered a Castro Clone but then you end up veering into masc territory again
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also castro clones arent really even considered a thing anymore, that's og gay scene shit from like 70s-90s but i digress
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>>6633768
castratable.tumblr.com
enjoy
i stumbled across the fetish and thought it gross and within a year it became ~70% of what I jerk it to
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Hey. I don't really know what to say, but here goes. I don't even think I'm gay, i mean i have an attraction to guys, but i still find girls attractive. I think I'm just so incredibly lonely that i will accept anyone that will comfort me and "love" me. I've had zero relationships with either sex, plenty of dates but, they never seem to lead to anything. Anyone ever felt like this? Any advise would be welcome!
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>>6633867
sounds like you're bisexual. you hit the jackpot. go wild buddy
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>>6633856
Oh god no thank you

I'm just saying standards for what people throw fits about with regards to fetishes are weird. I don't tend to judge but it's just something interesting I've found as someone who is into diapers (but not adult baby bullshit)
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>>6633876
Yeah I guess I am bi. I don't want some chick though, my dream is being held by a guy I can trust. There's just a sense of security there for me, like I'm safe in his arms. I just... I don't know, I want to be wanted I guess. Right now there a cute guy sleeping across the room and I'm finding it hard to not cuddle uo next to him.
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>>6633959
>[TRIGGERED]

But also correct
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>>6633876
>open up in gaygen about my castration/nullification fetish
>am rewarded with a picture of a young stud having his man-meat roasted
score I guess
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How do i fix my self esteem issues so I can start dating again?
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>>6634179
find someone even uglier than you
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>>6634189
I would rather not. If they are uglier than me then they must have something wrong with them.
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>>6634226
Find someone even mentally uglier than you
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>>6634232
I would rather make my self more desirable than settle for a 400lb psychopath.
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>>6634245
go read a fucking self-help book i don't fucking know i don't know anything about you how can i begin to even help you "fix" your shit

fucking dumbass if you want to improve your self-esteem get off this fucking website and surround yourself with some friends for starters
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that was harsh and i apologize for snapping at you but yeah thats all there is to it
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>>6634293
I have a group of close friends. That does not keep me from viewing myself as undateable.
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>>6634335
Exercise helps a bit.
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I hate whoever is doing this.
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Tinder with location spoofing not working for anyone else anymore?
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>>6634376
Im losing weight. It is slow going at the moment due to an accident. I have lost 17 pounds so far but that is over 3 months.
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>>6634382
Have you no sense of humor
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>>6631602
I was the anon that posted about going on a date with this guy and then him being "too busy with work" for 2 weeks to go on a second date at all.

I just found out when we were texting that he actually had a couple of days off last week and this week but he said he had "probably gonna hang with my bestie".

So it's dead Jim, isn't it? In the beginning of a relationship you're supposed to be excited to see the other person right? Not just seeing them when you have nothing else to do right? I'm not crazy for thinking that right?
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>>6634430
Presumably good going. Keeping up a regular exercise schedule should help lift your mood and make you feel worthwhile. Just gotta stick it out.

>>6634464
Seems like it. Sorry.
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>>6634464
stop texting him. if he hits u up for a date then go for it. If not then he's not interested.
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>>6634464
The "beginning of a relationship" isn't necessarily (or even usually) right after the first date. Dating is for deciding whether you like someone, a relationship starts when you realize you do
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>>6634612
fuck this
right now me and this guy are both very into each other. it will probably lead to a relationship. but right now we're stuck going on these BS dates because idk, society says we shouldn't get together that quickly I guess.

This guy can only ever do "brunch" and honestly fuck that word.

He's also super SJW. On our third date I happened to say "Can I kiss you?" before we had our first kiss and he liked it a lot and started talking about consent. My fetishes are all about humiliation and forced shit. Like I want to play a game of Super Smash Bros where the loser gives the winner a BJ. Also pantsing/stripping him and stuff like that. I hope he'll be into that and not think its rape. IDK how these SJW liberal brains work, but he's super cute and super sweet. Extremely good intentioned and smart too.

But for now its just brunches and forced dates. Soon, though, I will be sticking my dick in his (presumably/hopefully) hairy ass.

sorry. went on a tangent
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>>6634657
>smart
okay then
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>>6634657
>He's also super SJW. On our third date I happened to say "Can I kiss you?" before we had our first kiss and he liked it a lot and started talking about consent
Dropped.
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Trying to understand some UK (London) drug slang. What does "looking for 40" mean. Is it just a misspelling of 420, or something else?
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>Every time I wash my ass with soap in the shower its super dry during the day and is extremely uncomfortable
>Every time I don't wash it with soap it feels normal throughout the day albeit not as clean
I fucking hate this. Not to mention with both I have swamp ass. I give up trying to be a bottom.
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>getting horny in tight pants
>feel the warm hard cock pressed against my body

is there a better feeling?
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>>6634935
Most likely. Unless he's looking for 40 men.
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how do i top my bf if im a complete bottom and dont find it arousing at all
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>>6635235
You don't.
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>>6635245

but i really want to make him happy...
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>>6635253
Then kill yourself so he can find a real man who's willing to top him.
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Would any of you date a failed tranny who detransitioned?
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>>6635273
As long as you still have a working dick and would top me, no judgement senpai
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>>6635298

I'm curious because lots of trannies I've met have detransitioned. Some go back to women, others were straight before but like cock still so try it with men as a guy for the first time. What made me ask is because another person I know recently detransitioned after passing woes of a couple years.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!

do i do it?
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>>6635390
sure, why not. then you can brag about having eiffel towered someone.
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>>6635392

Why are you so salty towards trannies?
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>>6635422

What about the ones that were gay men before they transitioned?
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>>6635431
do you look cute in an ss uniform?
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>>6635446
but nazis did fascism with style

you must have shit taste
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>>6635466
I'm no /fa/ggot
but if you can't appreciate a well-designed uniform, you're just a manchild who has never developed any good taste
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>turn out to be gay
>turn out to like manly traits attractive with guys
>find out the entire gay community actively tries to avoid and reduce their manly traits
>they're all fem as fuck with a doing stuck between their legs
>I'm an outcast among outcasts for liking manly traits with men
HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIITTTTT IT ISN'T FAIIIR END ME NOW
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>>6635501
Well there are masculine guys, however it seems that they take either trait to the extreme. I think if you avoided the sort of open cliques you'd find regular guys... But then you're cutting yourself out of it even more and making it that bit more difficult to find someone.

Yeah, it kinda sucks.
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>>6635541
I have found nothing but fem fags (of my age) over the years and the rare few who doesn't appear fem almost always has that peculiar fag voice I can't stand

>I'm an abomination for liking men and not """""""""""""""men"""""""""""""""
Just kill me now
>>
Help a complete social retard out.

Does it mean something when a strange cute guy looks you into the eyes and gives you that kind of warm smile that makes you smile too?
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>>6635557
exactly this, why do they all need to have that faggy voice? i'm instantly done once I hear that
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>>6635557
If you transition those straight men will date and fuck you.
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sluts
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so... what stuff can you actually do in a MMM threesome that you cant do normally?

i can only think of spitroasting and getting head from 2 guys at once
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>>6635581
Could do, depends on the situation and what not though.

>>6635557
Hmm, I always figures the voice would be exclusive to the femmy types, I can't imagine a masculine guy with a "haaaayyyy" voice. Weird.

I dunno man, so how long have you bee looking now, you mention years. No luck at all? What kinda of places or things do you use to search for guys?
>>
Post you favourite and least favourite accents

Favs
>French
>Scottish

Least fav
>Australian
>American (With the exception of some east coast and northern accents)
>Liverpudlian
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>>6635608
Someone can be lucky pierre
you can make a suck chain
you can place to people on top of each other and fuck one hole, exit, fuck the other, exit, fuck the other
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>>6633475
>>6633527
Read more carefully next time faggots he said "YOUR gfur porn" not "my gfur porn". How retarded can you two be?
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>>6635642

>lucky pierre

?
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>>6635613
My ex was hairy and bearded and very masc looking but he still acted quite camp. And even though he had a think Scottish accent he managed to have a slight femmy twang.
It doesn't really bother me though. If I find a dude attractive and we get on really well I don't care if they're a little bit camp or not.
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>>6635390
What does the cute Canadian look like?
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>>6635677

twunkish kinda
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>>6635661
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lucky%20pierre
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>>6635594
I'd rather and probably will become prison straight
>>6635613
>I can't imagine a masculine guy with a "haaaayyyy" voice.
There's the extreme fag voice like that and the more common, less sassy one which most fags have. A laid back raspy 'straight voice' is rare as shit.
I go with tinder and grindr because there's no other alternative in my area
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>>6635641
Favourite is probably Italian, though only a rather specific one, I'm not sure what region all I know is this one guy I sometimes chat to has the sexiest accent ever it drives through me.

Also like Scottish too, I find that nice to hear, quite harsh in general but again some doing great. I particularly like Bigclive's accent, he's a youtuber.

>>6635663
Yeah, I think everyone is a little camp after some time being gay. Not sure why that is, I've noticed lately that I'm getting more and more camp and my accent is slowly starting to lean over to faggot.

Shit, maybe it really is a brain disorder.
>>
milo yiannopoulos.....
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>>6635733
Did his career die? It was fueled mostly by inane Twitter drama after all.
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>>6635663
I-is your ex this guy?
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>>6635761
Paul McNulty

https://www.instagram.com/djpjm1/?hl=en
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>>6635769
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ElIBWY3DAc
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>>6635746
He's more popular than ever after he was banned from Twitter, and recently made an appearance on CNN.
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10/10 body, but terrible tattoos = 5/10
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>>6635807
All tattoos are terrible, desu
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>>6635820
ain't that the truth, look at this terrible shit on this guy's body
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>>6635825
>Believe in faith
What did he mean by this?
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>>6635828
Well, if he worked more on his intelligence more than his body he wouldn't have gotten that tattoo. My guess is he's an idiot.
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>>6635501
>turn out to be gay
>turn out to like manly traits attractive with guys
>find out the entire gay community is made up of wimpy self loathing betas that feel entitled to everything
>they're all stupid as fuck and constantly bitch and complain about how everyone else has to be masc for them or it isn't fair
>I'm an outcast among outcasts for liking men that don't act like teenage girls
HOLY FUCKING SHIIIIITTTTT IT ISN'T FAIIIR END ME NOW
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what foods will make my cum taste the least awful? does it really make a difference?
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>>6635859
Yeah I'm a gay person who likes traits which define the sexuality and is disappointed that the gay world has barely any of that to offer, so sue me.
>I'm a beta
It's fine if you think so, whatever. I hope you're not projecting though.
>everyone else has to be masc
I don't mind fem and their existence as you think I do (?), but being attracted to a minority amongst minorities sucks. I don't want less fem guys per se, I want more of the other kind.
>men that don't act like teenage girls
Accurate, I don't get your point.

You have a greater selection of partners available to you and you're smug about it, I get it.
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>>6634657
It doesn't sound like you two are a very good match beyond physical attraction
Perhaps as you go on some more dates he'll realise you're ill suited for each other and thus avoid entering into a relationship
>>6635501
>>6635859
Jesus fucking Christ, Mary, get a grip. Tonnes of the fags on here constantly complain about this, it's not an unusual thing. Most gay guys are into straight acting masc4masc guys and definitely do not try and "avoid and reduce their manly traits". Clearly, you're only hanging out with femmy twinks, which is where your problem comes from, but even those femmy twinks are usually looking for a masculine man.
>>6635585
You know how British people have a funny accent? Well, they're not putting it on. They just talk like that.
It's the same for femmy gay voice. They don't "need" to have that voice but saying that implies they put it on.
>>6635724
You're only attracted to masculine men, so instead of sleeping with feminine men you're going to have sex with women. Great logic, Jan.
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>>6635914
>Yeah I'm a gay person who likes traits which define the sexuality and is disappointed that the gay world has barely any of that to offer, so sue me.
I don't have a problem with that. It's just that you obnoxiously act like the only one, assuming that everyone else is the opposite and you're special for being gay among gays. Have you even really experience the gay scene outside of what 4chan tells you? There are more guys like you bitching about the gay community being too fem than there are actual fems. You fuckers need to shut the fuck up already, because there are plenty of people that meet your criteria and you're just whining instead of going after them because it's easier.

Also yes, you are a beta. You're the gay equivalent of "nice guys" and fedora tippers.

>but being attracted to a minority amongst minorities sucks
But they're not a minority amongst minorities. There are so many genres of gay that fit into a masculine criteria, while only one or two of those is fem. Gym bunnies, gym rats, bulls, daddies, bears, etc. There is even a whole app specifically for manly men. The only part of the gay community that is dominated by twinks or obsessed with them might be on shitty sites like 4chan, but even here there are a lot of masculine men.

>Accurate, I don't get your point.
You're the man acting like an entitled teenage girl.

>You have a greater selection of partners available to you and you're smug about it, I get it
I only date masculine guys, yet I manage.
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>>6635951
i know, but it puts me off nonetheless. still think it's strange that it's so much more common in gay men then in straight ones tho
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>>6635956
This. People keep writing articles about the hyper masculinity of the gay world, and how damaging it is (the rise in gay men with body image issues because we're told the only attractive gay man is a muscular masculine one).
You can't move for posts on here about how some guy is "an actually masculine man" and unlike all the other fags in the world "not defined by sexuality". They're all straight acting, "normal", masculine men who can't stand swishy fems and want a "man. not a man behaving like a woman, but a man".
Jesus Christ, it's like they all completely lack self awareness when they think they're the minority in the gay community, as if gay porn regularly features femmy fags and not beefy masculine guys, as if "gay for pay" isn't a thing, as if... well, I guess they're either only hanging out with fems (which is weird if they hate them so much) or they only notice the fems are gay and probably manage to put off actual masculine gay guys by being so obviously messed up in relation to masculinity. I bet half of them aren't even as masculine as they think they are.
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>>6635914
>I don't want less fem guys per se, I want more of the other kind.

Masc guys don't whine on 4chan about such petty first world shit
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>>6635914
I get where you're coming from. Even if gay dudes look average almost everyone I have met so far have a really exaggerated demeanor, limp wrist, a dramatic personality, loves drag or women (bar night with my girlfriends, have no male friends (or only other gay male friends like themselves).

To me feminine and masculine is more attitude and behavior. And its an instant turn off for me when someone acts that way.
People here and other places will complain to you if you say "just act normal" because they interpret it to mean "be ashamed that you're gay". To me it just means act like your sexuality is not the forefront of your personality.

I've settled for the fact that there might be such a gay person out there and I'm happy to live alone, I don't need sex or intimate relationships that bad as it frees up time to do other stuff.
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>>6635956
I see you're not denying the fact that a clear majority of gays are flaming fem faggots, which was my main complaint.
Great, then we're on the same page.
>>6635951
If I have to live with an annoying fem person then I might as well go all the way instead of going with a weird mix between a man and a woman with a dong,
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>>6635971
There's a whole documentary about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R21Fd8-Apf0
One theory is that gay men might subconsciously mirror women's voices as the gay voice features a lot of patterns associated with women (wide tonality range i.e. will jump up and down the octaves rather than being monotone, more annunciation, assibilation and affricitation).
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>>6636015
>tfw well educated posh boy from London but living up north
>tfw my superior oratory skills sound like gay voice to the free folk
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>>6635993
>complains about flaming faggots
>acts like an oversensitive flaming faggot

Shut the fuck up and go choke of a dick, queen.
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>>6635992
>Even if gay dudes look average almost everyone I have met so far have a really exaggerated demeanor, limp wrist, a dramatic personality, loves drag or women (bar night with my girlfriends, have no male friends (or only other gay male friends like themselves).
You either live in some bizarre twink world or you're clearly not noticing most gay guys. Protip: you tend to only notice the screaming faggots as gay because of bad toupee syndrome (the masc ones just appear straight).
Also what's wrong with predominately having gay friends? Straight people predominately have straight friends and nobody says they're defining themselves by their sexuality. I imagine the people in pic related probably mostly have gay men as friends because they're a gay rugby team (formed in part because they wanted to play rugby on a team that didn't have homophobes) - does that make them unmasculine?
>People here and other places will complain to you if you say "just act normal" because they interpret it to mean "be ashamed that you're gay".
Where? Where is this happening? You seem to think we're in Mean Girls if you think everyone is saying you need to act like a flaming faggot. What people are probably saying is you shouldn't go around trying to make flaming faggots act masculine and straight, because they're generally happy the way they are and don't have hangups over masculinty. That also applies to most masculine gay guys. Then there's people like you who clearly have fixated on masculinity.
>To me it just means act like your sexuality is not the forefront of your personality.
You're literally making your sexuality the forefront of your personality at the moment by going "I'm not like those OTHER gays. I'm such a martyr because I'm SOOOOOOO masculine that I guess I'll just have to die alone as no gay men exist that meet my stringent standards uguu~"
Good God, get a grip, man.
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>>6636023
Don't bring up class in gaygen. The Americans will inevitably get confused.
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>>6635993
>If I have to live with an annoying fem person then I might as well go all the way instead of going with a weird mix between a man and a woman with a dong,
So, you're throwing a tantrum, basically.
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>>6636015
this is going on my watchlist. thanks based anon
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>>6636042
>You either live in some bizarre twink world or you're clearly not noticing most gay guys. Protip: you tend to only notice the screaming faggots as gay because of bad toupee syndrome (the masc ones just appear straight).
Reread what I wrote. Average guys and even masc guys do this. I meet them on grindr for dates, I go for the ones that looks like average straight guys mostly, or the masculine ones. But they all have the same attitude.
>Also what's wrong with predominately having gay friends?
It fuels the aforementioned attitudes. Again its mostly about mimesis and behaviorisms, not about if someone looks more feminine or masculine in the face.
>Straight people predominately have straight friends and nobody says they're defining themselves by their sexuality.
Because to me that is a false syllogism. Straight people aren't friends because they are also straight. They are friends because they like to play music, collect vinyl, run, row kayaks, write, make movies, ride horses, and on and on. Gay people are friends with other gay people because they are gay. You even see it here and every other place
"want to meet more gay guys, get gay friends." Get a friend because they are gay. Is it wrong? No. But it makes it all about sexuality as it is the most important aspect of your life and personality.
>does that make them unmasculine?
No. But it doesn't make them masculine either. They could be sewing dresses for all I care, its not about their generally interests. Its about mannerisms, slang and what they "worship" (i.e.. gay men worshipping drag because its such a height of comedy).
>Where? Where is this happening?
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6474065/#6487815
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6565242/#6565293
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/6564970/#6565037
To name a few. Mention that you just wish people acted like people and you get "internalized homophobia" thrown at you.
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>>6636028
That's a nice, hot opinion and non-argument.
By the way, you don't need to get upset just because you proved yourself wrong.
>queen
lel, look who's trying to stir up drama
>>6636050
>throwing a tantrum
Call it whatever, if I have to pick a poison roastie partners have lots of benefits over fem fags.
>>6635992
This
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>>6636083
>>6636042
>What people are probably saying is you shouldn't go around trying to make flaming faggots act masculine and straight
I don't do that. I stay away from any in real life organization of LGBT, because each and every time it's highly disappointing. I also don't think that there is any "acting straight" or "acting gay", it's the idea that you have to behave a certain way to highlight what has become known as "acting gay". I don't have any other word than normal for it.
As one guy says in >>6636015 "I love my gay voice, I just have to say Hello and everyone knows I'm gay, I don't have to come out to anyone". And its sentiments like these that leaves me baffled.
Why would anyone want anyone else to know that they are gay from the moment they open their mouths. There are so many other things I can think of that I would introduce myself as, I don't see why its anyones business that I'm gay.
Straight people don't introduce themselves when they meet someone new by hoping people pick up that their gay.
>You're literally making your sexuality the forefront of your personality
No. I'm making my interests and pursuits my forefront of my personality, none of which are defined by wanting to fuck and get fucked by men.
>I'm not like those OTHER gays
I'm not like those other gays. I don't feel the need to talk about guys or swoon or be fierce or parade about. Gay is a lifestyle as the quote >>6635992 says. And I don't live that lifestyle at all.
>I'm such a martyr
I'm not a martyr but I can easily live alone when gay men are fed a view that they have to be this way and people have to be able to always see and hear that you are gay or else you're a special snowflake gay and have internalized homophobia.
>I'm SOOOOOOO masculine
I'm just average, both opposites are pretty balanced in my personality.
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>>6636083
All gay guys have "a really exaggerated demeanor, limp wrist, a dramatic personality, loves drag or women"? That's just not true and I don't know where you are where this could be true.
It's possible you're deliberately looking for this in gay men you meet and so creating a false bias where any slight character trait means you read them as homos, whereas you do not read the same trait negatively in straight guys. That's also a series of traits and not an "attitude".
People have gay friends because it is something they have in common. It's not the same, talking about gay sex with my straight friends in the way that my straight friends talk about straight sex with each other. But I'm not only friends with gay people because they're gay, I'm friends with them because they're gay and also because we'd be friends anyway.
Gay friends are useful because that's a way to meet other gay people who could potentially be into you.
>But it makes it all about sexuality as it is the most important aspect of your life and personality.
It's not making it the most important aspect of your life or personality. However you are gay. Therefore it is both AN aspect of your life and personality. Yes, even you. That's inescapable. You being gay means you're attracted to men and presumably will end up dating men and maybe even marrying a man and raising a family with him. That does have an impact on your life, especially once you're going out with a man. Already you're different just on the basis that you're gay, and your straight friends will know that since you're gay, you won't be as interested in, say, going to a strip joint or discussing what women you find attractive.
>Its about mannerisms, slang and what they "worship" (i.e.. gay men worshipping drag because its such a height of comedy).
Not all gay men like drag... a lot of gay men hate drag (just look on this board for example). And a lot of my straight friends love drag and watch RuPaul's Drag Race.
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>>6636112
>Straight people don't introduce themselves when they meet someone new
Because it's the default.
Straight men are obsessed about not appearing gay
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it must suck to be ugly. Hot fag with deep voice and no ridiculous gender role related complex here. (Just a massive narcissist who will tragically never be able to have sex with himself)

just be patient. You'll get a bf eventually, no you'll never get to fuck tons of people like your straight friends do but hey they are degenerates anyway.

You should work out, study, advance yourself. Improve all your stats so that you will become more appealing when someone you really like does come along.

Or you could continue having your weird complexes because it makes it very easy for me to get laid.
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>>6636129
>what is autofellatio
>what is selffucking
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>Passive Aggressiveness: The General
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>>6636132
>autofellatio
Im not flexible enough

>selffucking
not the same.

Also continuing on my first post, yes the ratio of annoying faggots and regular guys is very off. It can be very frustrating. But all you need is 1 guy in this world. And once you find that 1 it doesnt matter that the rest of your options were annoying queens.
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Any bifags here who knows if I can use my faggotry to an advantage to get girls? How?
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>>6636119
>That's just not true and I don't know where you are where this could be true
It's my anecdotal experience, sure. But I have yet to encounter someone that does not do it.
The other night I was out taking a beer with my friend after work, at one point a really drunken girl came up to us and started talking. Then her gay friend came up to us. I had seen him on grindr before and he was one of the more masculine looking dudes there.
He was behaving in the classical gay way. Arms raised to shoulder level with limp wrists, grabbing her boobs, talking about how boring it was to hang around us and that he and his girlfriend should find somewhere to party.
A day later I saw him on grindr again, he's one of the people that has linked his instagram so I checked it out. Filled to the brim with pictures of him and his guurls partying. #justoneofthegirls
I keep seeing gay men on grindr, and then seeing them in real life and they are acting as the stereotype camp gay. I'm not looking for these things I've just never seen the opposite.
>It's not making it the most important aspect of your life or personality. However you are gay. Therefore it is both AN aspect of your life and personality. Yes, even you. That's inescapable. You being gay means you're attracted to men and presumably will end up dating menThat does have an impact on your life, especially once you're going out with a man. Already you're different just on the basis that you're gay, and your straight friends will know that since you're gay, you won't be as interested in, say, going to a strip joint or discussing what women you find attractive.
I'm starting to think I'm more homoerotic rather than homosexual. Maybe it is just about sex but if that sex has to be with fairies it's not really all that interesting and I can easily go without it.
>ot all gay men like drag... a lot of gay men hate drag
its mostly a costume separating gay men from drag queens ime
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>>6636083
>To name a few. Mention that you just wish people acted like people and you get "internalized homophobia" thrown at you.
Faggy gays are just acting like people. They're not putting on their personality, that's literally just how they are. People kick up a fuss in some of those examples because there are literally gay men who think flamboyant gay men need to censor and change their personality. That's not the same as saying you're not attracted to flaming queens or you don't enjoy spending time with flaming queens.
>>6636112
>it's the idea that you have to behave a certain way to highlight what has become known as "acting gay"
You seem to think that gay men en masse think that in order to be gay, you NEED to be flamboyant. Most gay men do not think that and most gay men fetishise masculine gay guys.
>Why would anyone want anyone else to know that they are gay from the moment they open their mouths.
Typically the logic is that if people know you're gay, if they're also gay and attracted to you then you've increased your chances of finding a bf. Also as he says, he's avoiding having to come out doing that, so it's convenient... and he's literally not introducing himself as gay, he's just so gay people can tell, so it's not really about him deliberately making that his first impression (it's a documentary about gay voice and he's literally being asked about positives and negatives to gay voice). If you're friends with someone, you're going to have to eventually mention that you're gay, as that is, like it or not, a big aspect of your life. You find people of the same gender attractive, therefore that changes your life because it means you'll have sex with and get into relationships with men rather than women. That's a big thing, and therefore your friends will eventually need to be told.
Straight people don't need any special cues or a coming out for people to think they're straight, as most people are straight and therefore it's the default assumption.
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>>6636145
Where on earth do you live that literally all gay guys you meet are queens?
Sex doesn't have to "be with fairies", there are shit tonnes of non-fairy gay men, you are either living in some bizarre queeny enclave or you're just deep into a huge confirmation bias.
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>>6636143
some girls like it, some girls don't. a lot of them think you'll cheat on them with guys or something like that.
the ones that do like it are usually batshit tho
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>>6636156
Scandinavia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjtFYoOPOc8
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>desperately looking for a house to avoid homelessness
>see an ad
>26 year old gay guy letting out the other bedroom in his place
>really nice place, nice bedroom, seems legit, cheap ish, close to work
>also slightly worried about sharing a house with a gay guy who's quite a bit older

What do gaygen? It might be the best offer i get, but it could go very wrong.
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>>6636190
Is he specifically asking for other gay people (or men) to room with him? If yes, avoid. If he's just advertising a room, then he's probably ok. Beggars can't be choosers.
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>>6636156
Not him but sweden, the feminist paradise.
I've been to the states and a WAY larger share of gays there are not fem fags who looks, acts and talks like they had their balls chopped off.

I'm >>6635501 and you keep saying it can't be that bad as I make it out to be, that there does exist masc guys and we're entitled or whatever fancy identitarian label you have to give. I'm guessing you're from usa. You have no saying of how bad it is here. I have because I've experienced both. You don't know.
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>>6636141
>Im not flexible enough
you sound fat or just have a tiny dick
either way, work on that brah

>>6636143
im not bi but im sure u can
i believe n u
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>>6636199
I'm a britbong, actually. Ok fair do's, maybe Sweden is some weird country where all the gay guys are queens, but my mate Klas is Swedish and unclockable (to the point where even gay people do not think he is gay unless he specifically mentions it, and he has been denied entry to gay bars because they thought he was straight). That would imply there is at least one of masculine Swede gay out there. The fact that there are two Scandinavians in this thread complaining about this too suggests there may be more.
Is it either or, with you? Like what if there was a gay guy who was 100% masculine in every single way you could think of, except he liked drag shows and watching RuPaul's Drag Race? Would that put you off a guy?
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>>6636143
N.B. this applies to white bread straight women, and not open minded straight women or any bi women.
Benefits to faggotry:
Women don't see you as a threat, so will relax around you.
You can bond with women easier by liking/pretending to like the stuff they like and listening to their conversations about hair/makeup/fashion/hot guys.
Downsides to faggotry:
Women will generally have placed you in their faggot box and so will see you as a desexualised gay best friend and unable to take you seriously as a potential sexual partner.
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>>6636224
>pretending to like the stuff they like
the betas who do stuff like that deserve any shit they get
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New thread

>>6636250
>>6636250
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>>6636215
>Is it either or, with you?
No, I actively try to lower my standard but when it finally comes to it the fem traits really turns me off. Most often it's the way they talk and the body language which does it.
Mind you there does exist masc swede gays, obviously, but they're way fewer than fem ones, WAY fewer than I found there to be in the states.
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>>6635059
Soap dries you out. Use lotion.
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