Anyone else here two or more years into HRT but still presenting

>>6590239
Yeah.
I just don't go outside, and keep away from people.

Just $8k to go until I can get rid of my facial hair.

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>>6590270
I spent like $500 with no insurance or anything covering mine, you should look around more.

>>6590239
mhm
over 2 years HRT and still presenting male

doubt i'll ever present female, too much stress and passing 100% is a myth anyway, i just try to ignore it

>>6590361
Not 2 years in yet but this is my plan too, just be a fem guy in public and a girl at home

>>6590364
not even a girl at home, i just stopped caring...it's kinda sad tbhon :(

>>6590239
- the daily "delusional" self-hypnosis: "i'm a tomboy. a really musculine looking tomboy. so convincing and ugly that people misgender me as boy."
- close my eyes when on trains to avoid eye contact with peeps around. pretend napping and hope people will not bother or pay attention to you.
- use self checkout registers whenever possible to avoid the "have a good day sir" line.
- keep away from pregnant women, babies, cute girls, pretty women, heterosexual couples when possible.

>>6590239
i dont know this feel, i went full time after 5 months :^)

>>6590367

I just do my hair and practice makeup on my own for nobody to ever see which is pretty sad too in its own way really (sad as in pathetic)

>>6590239

>assigned gender

Please leave mentally ill Tumblr user

>>6590429

assigned at birth is what i think that means

>>6590432

Still

Saying gender is >assigned implies that you think gender isn't biology which is what people who believe in made up special snowflake genders think

Why not just say "when I was still presenting as man"

>>6590239
I usually just try and cover my boobs and leave my facial hair at 5 o clock. I avoid mirrors.
I'm agoraphobic so I dont go outside but to get my medication, which I drive about an hour away to get just so people who know me dont see me.
Then once Im in public im a huge nervous wreck.
I've had like 5 people mistake me for a girl in the past two years.
I just look like a pretty boy I guess.
I put on this fake machismo cocky attitude most of the time.
I hate it and it makes me feel dead inside but its what I have to do to be normal.
I honestly dont think im ever going to pass and Ill just be a pretty boy.
Im kinda cute I guess but it doesnt mean anything.
Everyone is always commenting on my male characteristics and I fucking hate it.
I'm a girl. I'm not a boy.
I guess to cope I try not to think about it because if I do I start crying and I cant stop and ill cry for hours.

>>6590442
I think in this case its appropriate to easily cover both ftm and mtf in less words.

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>>6590367
same tbqHONFAMIILY
couldn't give two fucks about what i am

>>6590472
>I usually just try and cover my boobs and leave my facial hair at 5 o clock. I avoid mirrors.
>Then once Im in public im a huge nervous wreck.
>I just look like a pretty boy I guess.
>I put on this fake machismo cocky attitude most of the time.
>I hate it and it makes me feel dead inside but its what I have to do to be normal.
>I honestly dont think im ever going to pass and Ill just be a pretty boy.
>Everyone is always commenting on my male characteristics and I fucking hate it.
>I guess to cope I try not to think about it because if I do I start crying and I cant stop and ill cry for hours.
whoa are you me. we should have bishonen yaoi pity sex

>>6590395
fuck iktf

>>6590239

who are you people

i'm almost two months in and when i dress like a guy everyone thinks i'm butch or FTM

>>6590759
when i dress like a guy everyone says nothing

>>6590361
do the changes happen gradually or did you notice a period where the majority of fem changes occurred?

>>6590239
im thinking about grudally stopping presenting male, a lot of people think im a girl when they first meet me

>>6590759
Nobody gives a fuck if girls dress like guys. Youd have to be a 3 or morbidly obese for anyone to give you shit.

>>6590814
>changes
Lol there aren't any.
Its just subtle over years.

>>6590239
>assigned
Cringe

>>6590395
This post speaks truths, and I can say that having only just started my transition.

>>6590442
>Still
>Saying gender is >assigned implies that you think gender isn't biology which is what people who believe in made up special snowflake genders think
Damn, you are just like the people you criticise. OP didn't write "assigned gender" in order to promote a certain agenda.
>Why not just say "when I was still presenting as man"
Because "assigned gender" includes mtfs and ftms at once, to name one reason, that comes to my mind.
Don't become like the people you hate, anon. We don't need another lanuage-police.

>>6591930
>and I can say that having only just started my transition.
Maybe that is why ...... Seriously people need to realize you are basically still male biologically and outwardly until like 8+ months in.

Just like those cringy bastards posting a 1 week time lines on reddit. or 4 week progress pictures.

Just stop. haha.

Transition is puberty. It is a not a binary thing where once you get on HRT you instantly are a complete woman, who just gradually gets more fem.

When you first go on HRT a big part you get all the negative symptoms in the first weeks/month is your body still thinks it is male and is just suffering low T so it goes crazy trying to fix you by restoring the imbalance.

>>6590759

That's because you're probably a delusional hon tbqhfamilia.

>>6590239
>assigned
You mean your actual gender that you were born with?

>>6591690
>>6593454
>>6590432

Whatever you like I honestly don't care. I just used the most PC term because I didn't want it to detract from the topic.

>>6590239
It's "assigned sex" not "assigned gender" (gender is a spook)

Also I'm only about 8 months on HRT but I don't pass for shit, and probably won't for a long time still. I get stared at a lot in public and at first it was kinda draining on psyche but I think I am getting used to it by forcing myself to go out. It's kinda fun to treat it as a challenge, seeing how much I can handle getting weird looks and hearing people talk about me in passing

>>6593454
>>6591690
>>6590442
>>6590429
http://www.dsm5.org/documents/gender%20dysphoria%20fact%20sheet.pdf

>For a person to be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, there must be a marked difference between the individual’s expressed/experienced gender and the gender others would ASSIGN him or her

>>6590239
You guys are the disappointment of 4chan. It never used to dawn on anyone that you could go years on hormones and never pass.

Threads on other boards always used to get people that weren't on hormones or just got on them trying their best. The ones a year in looked amazing.

Then they made /lgbt/ and everyone started doing it. Now you have all these hons that don't pass and their screams drown out the few positive stories. Most of them will detrans if /lgbt/ is shut down or their life drifts away from the chans.

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>>6594214

>It never used to dawn on anyone that you could go years on hormones and never pass.

Fucking lol. Nobody older than like 14 will pass as *cis* without a shit-load of tells, unless they get surgeries. Given most of us on 4chan are university students/neets/poor that's difficult.

There's no point in presenting as female if everyone sees you as some mentally unstable basket case that let their fetish overwhelm their life.

>Threads on other boards always used to get people that weren't on hormones or just got on them trying their best. The ones a year in looked amazing.

Carefully angled and lit photos can give that impression. I imagine they look honnish in real life. When I was a fledgling tranny I went to a social get-together for trannies and they had an online facebook group. Browsing through the photos on there you'd think that everybody looked cis, but in real life it was like being at a drag show. No thanks senpai.

0 years, man always. I've given up. No way in hell I'll like how I look after hrt if I don't like myself before. Suicide sounds like a dream

>>6590239
I'm about a year and a half, I girlmode sometimes but not really due to being a neet and not having many friends. I wish I could do more but it's really hard on my old and feeling like such a monster, I don't want to cause anyone trouble, I just want to be myself :c

>>6594230
You're an idiot and your chart sucks. Don't be bitter just because you got shit genetics.

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>>6594391

>muh ad hominem

Stay mad hon

>>6594230
Stop blaming everything else because you're an utter failure.

>>6594402
Not a hon, but you probably are. And your kind is the worst. At least the old hons keep to themselves for the most part. The young hons are worse because they're neutoric as all hell, and are constantly posting these huge analyses about how X can pass, Y can't pass, blah blah blah. If you were passable you wouldn't be wasting your time with this nonsense.

>>6594402
>>6594230
Posting troll pics, memes, stupid graphs based on no data, couldn't possibly be more delusional. There's nothing female about you.

>>6594428
>>6594414
>>6594412

Haha, please. Feel free to post your bodies and lets compare.

>>6594459

With a time stamp, obviously.

>>6594643

What are your body measurements out of curiosity? i.e. any of the following:

- biacromial shoulder distance
- waist
- bust
- underbust
- hips
- shoe size

>>6594643
>>6594717

Also I'd appreciate if you gave me your social security number.
;)

>>6594726

Staying closeted for three or four years on HRT is pretty reasonable, but six? You must be really fucked up, I was just curious.

>>6594735
You're responding to the wrong person. I was just making fun of you.

>>6594735
Not the same anon, but after a while you just lose all hope, and even if you could pass you become too dead inside to try.

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>>6590239
Yeah I have been on hrt for over five years at this point and I still dress up as a dude. I pass as either gender though but it is easier to pass as a girl than anything else. I just like being androgynous at times so I dress like my old birth sex. I am getting srs soonish though so no more dick lol.

I knew another tranny who was 2+ years on hrt and did the same thing. It is more that we don't give a fuck about gender roles and not so much about being a snow flake.

I feel bad though because being able to pass 100% as a girl has helped me. It feels weird that it is harder to pass as my gender assigned at birth than the one I feel like I belong to though. It is like the flip side of where I was four years ago wondering if people could tell if I was trans while dressed like a girl. Now I worry if people will know I am trans if I am dressed like a dude. I don't think being trans is a problem though, but other people sure do.

TL:DR

Yes I still dress like a dude once in awhile for fun despite being on hrt for five years plus. It feels safer to dress like agirl though.

>>6596424
you sound like one messed up retard. are you a transbian?

>>6596442
No, I like men and other transwomen. I hate ciswomen.

>>6594459
y-you first

I've been on hrt for almost 10 years and just kind of stopped caring. I have $100,000 that I was gonna spend on ffs and SRS and boobjob and get my birth certificate changed and all that but then I was like who the fuck cares. Like no amount of surgery or anything will ever make a born male into a female. I don't know what the hell I was thinking ever believing in such naive idiocy, like what did I think was going to happen lol. Cutting a hole where your dick was isn't a vagina. Vaginas have like mucosa and muscles and a womb at the end and all that shit, it's more than just some never-healing flesh wound. I'll probably stay on hrt because I don't ever wanna lose my long hair and it's not like I can father a child anymore anyway so there's no reason to stop. Even the super passable prettiest trannies end up living these shit tier lives where they just do fetish porn and smoke meth because nobody will ever take them seriously as women. And I'm pretty passable or at least was back when I used to give a fuck. All this trans shit is so retarded really.

>>6599262
Are you at least satisfied with your life?

Do you regret starting HRT?

>>6596520

Wait...do you hate them because they are cis? Wtf?

>>6599036
>>biacromial shoulder distance
>38cm

i hate you for having shoulders less broad than mine and bitching about it lol. but if my shoulders weren't this broad i'd find something else to be dysphoric about. you don't sound like you have a dad bod desu

>>6599036
you're tiny, what the hell is wrong with you, the only problem is maybe a little fat but that's it,

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>Have dysphoria
>I'm gonna be a woman
>I'm getting all the surgeries
>I'll be a normal girl with a husband and kids
>I'm strong, nothing will go wrong
>Start HRT
>Be on mones for 2 years
>Reality sets in
>GOD I'M A FAG
>Come to the realization I can't force myself to like men to try and feel a little less mentally ill
>Still enjoy wearing mens clothes because brand whore of supreme, Bape, etc
>Hate makeup even though I'm good at it
>Realize I hate "almost" everything aesthetically about being male
>Realize I hate "almost" everything aesthetically about being female
>Mix that shit together and...
>Can pass, but stay as andro / boderline female looking as possible
>"How are you doing today miss?"
>"Ma'am do you need help finding anything?"
>"All set miss?"
>Respond with the deepest voice I can muster
>Can't find image to express how apologetic/awkward they get after
Being a pretty boy / walking confusion is the best. Being a boy is more fun anyway :) Mfw extremely satisfied with being a walking fuck up for the rest of my life

>>6599623
Trust me, I look like a dude. People still tend to gender me female even when I bind, but I'm convinced its 95% voice. Or they're just fucking with me on purpose.

>>6600055
what are you?

>>6600254
former mtf

>>6600055
t.twink taking hrt

>>6600219
well people gender me male even when I wear a bra, trust me that outcome is much worse

>>6600552
>>6600055
I'm basically the same except it only took me half a year of mones to come to this realization

Fuck being female
Fuck being male

I just wanna be a qt andro creature defying gender expectations and making everyone uncomfortable

>>6600055
>>6603708
me too

i was really torn about being trans but now im comfortable with the realization that i want to be neither male or female

>>6600055
>>6600552
>>6603708
>>6603728
MY PEOPLE

>>6592128
you speak the truth

>>6599427
bet he browses r9k too much and posts in their women hate threads, lol

>>6599427
>not hating ciswomen out of jealousy

>>6594230
Can't agree more. Guess HRT makes your brain delusional.

>started HRT at 19
>1 year on it
>don't pass so present male full time
>come out to people
>"wtf where is this coming from I had no idea"

That's genetics for ya

>>6609537
>mfw im presenting female full time and still get this
>mfw i have no face