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I need help /lgbt/. My Christian parents found out that I'm

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I need help /lgbt/. My Christian parents found out that I'm into guys yesterday. They found out when my mom decided to go through my room, and my dad combed through my computer. My mom found my dildo, and my dad found all of my gay porn. They told me they want to take me to counseling, and say that being gay could kill me. A little after all that, my mom came in my room to find me crying, and told me that she loves me, and just doesn't want me to hurt myself. Meanwhile my dad just sat and watched me as I apologized and cried to my mom for being such a failure, and a waste of their time. Does /lgbt/ have any tips at all? Pic unrelated
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>>6585672
Take their advice and go to the counseling.
It's for the best :^)
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>>6585672
I've learned from my parents that if you adamantly deny something, even in the face of overwhelming evidence then all conflict can be avoided.

You have to confidently deny it though. Act like you don't even know what they are talking about or like it was a joke even though it obviously wasn't. But you have to be confident in your denial, not defensive or nervous or unsure or sarcastic.

Blatantly lie and act genuinely confused or like they're crazy when they say anything about you being gay.

This incident never happened. You are a straight boy and you love pussy. You have a crush on a girl in one of your classes. Why would you be gay? You have never done anything to indicate to them that you are gay. Even if you actually have, it never happened. You have no idea what they are talking about. They're just making stuff up and you don't understand why.

If you choose to acknowledge the incident act like it was an elaborately planned joke. No matter how ridiculous it gets, keep a straight face and say it matter of factly. You did this to fuck with them or see how they would react or because you thought it would be funny (and you have to embrace that it WAS funny, not that it was a mistake)
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>"renounce" your gay ways
>become good christian son
>suck dicks behind their backs
>leave them once you can
They don't actually love you.
They love a false image of their son, one that isn't real.
One that isn't you.
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>>6585672
You've got two options the way I see it. You can be straightforward, honest, and resilient about it if you really have the guts. This rarely works out but you get the satisfaction of telling them they're wrong. The other way is to pretend it was a weird phase and your over it until you can get yourself away from them. Accept that they don't accept you and remove them from your life till they understand, which might never happen.
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>>6585804
this desu
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>>6585672

This could go a lot of ways - even if they freaked out at first, they might come around, even if they are very traditional. Just try to work out what some of the worst-case scenarios might be, and plan for them just in case.

>>6585793

That's an option.

Or, if you can't bear the thought of closeting yourself until you move out, it might be best to be honest and direct, address the things they're worried about but be assertive.

It sounds like this might be risky though - if your parents are willing to look through your stuff when you're not around, they might be unwilling to respect your boundaries in other ways too. Your call.

Depending on how strict your parents are/what you're worried might happen, here's some things to look into:

- LGBT-friendly Christian organisations in your area who could provide information/help for your parents

- friends/relatives in the area who might help you out if things go sour with your parents

- laws in your area about whether parents can send their kids to a therapist without the kid's consent

If nothing else, do your damn best to get first refusal on any therapists they plan to send you to. "I'm willing to see a therapist, but I want to make sure the therapist is right for me" is a whole lot better than "send me to whoever your friend on the church council with the ex-gay daughter thinks is good with 'this kind of thing'".
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>>6585672
go to the counseling and act straight.
if you come out of the closet, islamists will rape you

allahu ackbar
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OP I am going to go ahead and assume you are "18" years old. Do you go to school? Public school? If so there should be counselors and people there who can help you with this problem.

You're in a bit of a sticky situation here. You could wind up kicked out if it goes the wrong way, who knows. Research shelters and resources for gay teens (making an assumption here, please correct me if I'm wrong), find sympathetic family or friends, as others have said. Tell people who will truly care about your situation, people IRL, who will want to help you out.

You could deny or go back in the closet like others have said, but IMO a great thing to do would be to stand your ground and turn your parents around. Again, as others have said, address all of their fears. Point out that the new gospel of Jesus overrides the old laws of the pharisees, they probably aren't even good enough Christians to know about that. Explain that no homosexual will go to hell so long as they truly have Jesus in their heart and believe in his sacrifice. No human is perfect (aside from Jesus but he is essentially God in the flesh), and all by default are sinners, your parents included. Explain to them that "going to heaven" and "being a faggot" are not mutually exclusive. You could even lie and say you wish to just be celibate. This would utterly negate their claims of "you'll catch the AIDS and die!" I'm not religious myself but I grew up in a rather Christian household so I have a good handle on the religion. If after explaining this, and the fact that nothing can remove homosexuality, explain that if they deny that you could go to heaven they are denying Jesus' gospel and denying Jesus' sacrifice. Paint them as bad Christians who themselves are going to hell. Use biblical quotes to support yourself, such as "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" (John 8:7) and "Judge not lest ye be judged/Judge not or you too will be judged." (Matthew 7:1)

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>>6586138
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Basically I am saying to attack this from a viewpoint they will be most likely to understand - Christianity. Use their own beliefs against them. Show them they are bad Christians by not accepting you for who you are. Explain that they are bad Christians by -judging- you when it is not their place to do so, but God's alone.
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Say you're "confused".
Worked for me.
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Forget everything your parents ever told you. Once you're an adult, you need to figure out your own path in life, not blindly pursue whatever expectations your parents might have pushed for.

If I were you, I'd focus on making myself more independent with the ultimate goal of moving out. Work minimum wage jobs if you have to. Then it won't matter what your family thinks.

>counseling

Pretty sure any licensed therapist will take your side and call your parents out on their bullshit. Homosexuality is not regarded as a mental illness, and gay people go to therapists all the time looking to come to terms with their sexuality.
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>>6585672
>>6585672
>Does /lgbt/ have any tips at all?
play their game but be proactive:
>Find pro-/lgbt/ christian groups in your area.
>contact them & get a list of counselors from them
>suggest a counselor for you/them to go to
This will show you are being a responsible adult to them. Your whole family might benefit from all this.

The best way for this to turn out is for you parents to accept you. Maybe it will have to go the way of you cutting them out of your life, but if you can avoid that, it would be better. If you can find a place where your family accepts you and you them, you will have a great resource throughout life: they will have your back when most others will not. That is something worth fighting for imo.
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bump for OP's sake because most people are too retarded to use the catalog, even this many years after its implementation.
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Tell them "No" firmly, but kindly.

Don't scream or shout. Just listen to their reasons as to why they think you're disordered, no matter how awkward it becomes. At the end, just say: "I would prefer not to."

And then just go to your room, and pretend nothing happened next day.
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>>6586138
>>6586144
Romans 1:26-27 talks about how homosexuality is unnatural and people are punished by god for it. Its the verse my dad would always bring up when I argued that Leviticus's laws were invalidated by new testament.

And they will say that they aren't judging you. And that they only want what is the best for you in the eyes of god. The bible says to raise your children to follow the bible and its rules, and they will use that as the reasoning.

Trying to convince them is all well and good once you are no longer dependent on them, but right now you are in a vulnerable position. They control your life even if you are 18 because they control your access to resources you need to live.

For now you need to focus on a way of avoiding dangerous conflict with them and try to become independent. Lie, pretend, do whatever you need to to keep safe until you can move out and be independent.
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>>6587505
Man, if they saw this board, they would pick out the words "lie" and say....

The homosakshuals, th-they be promoting deceiving your parents n sheeit
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>>6587505
>>6588247
Yeah OP here's what you really do.

Tell them if they don't accept it you'll cry "child abuse" and "pedo rape" to the authorities.
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>>6585672
Play along, wait until you're financially secure, then break free and suck all the dicks in the world
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>>6588537
This is an option too, make sure to text pictures to your parents each time. I know someone who did that, went and sucked a black dick and sent it to his racist homophobic parents that gave him a bunch of shit for being a fag.
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First of all embrace Satan for having such faggot parents, next, just do what you can to help them live in their world of illusions where you are their pristine, heterosexual son, who honors god and wants only to marry and raise good christian babies.

Then be the hot edgy fallen Christian gay dude from the south who fucks you hard with an emotionless expression.

But seriously fuck your weakling parents and their sanctimonious religion. Embrace evil.
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>>6585672
they're absolutely right. stop giving in to your childish degenerate fantasies. you don't want to disappoint them anymore.
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>>6585672
>My mom found my dildo, and my dad found all of my gay porn.
Well you sound like a degenerate so counselling wouldn't hurt
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Let them help you. Being a gay is a garbage life. If you don't die of AIDS or gay bashing you will wish you had when you're 40 and staring down an empty life and an empty, pointless future since you wasted your youth stuffing cocks in your butt for cheap short lived hedonistic pleasure rather than building a family that would've brought you a lifetime of real love and joy. Your parents are older and wiser than you and want what will bring you the best most fulfilling life in the future. Don't disappoint them or your future self.
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>>6588928
>Being a gay is a garbage life.
NAh
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>>6585672
it sounds like you could probably use the counseling
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>>6588928
um

triggered
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You have to keep in mind that you are not a degenerate monster. Their help is very likely to get you into pointless attempts to change your sexual orientation which will only cause you to enter meaningless relationships and forced marriages alongside years and years of frustration and self hatred. This is the worst possible outcome and if you stick with your parents advice, the most likely outcome.
I suggest visiting the Secular Outpost to learn how to utterly debunk Christianity.
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>>6585793
This is one of the most destructive ways to lead your life.
Do you happen to have autism?
(Really not trying to meme; this mannerism is common in people with ASD)
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>>6585672

You sound underage. Unless you're 18 or older you shouldn't even own a dildo or be looking at disgusting porn and even than it's a perverse act against your own flesh! Did something happen to you in your younger years?

Only prayer will help you now.

Being LGBT is an abomination. There's no way around it. All LGBT people are perverts. All elder LGBT people are horrible perverted people. They aren't role models or anyone you should look up to.
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>>6596772

Also every time you watch gay porn..you must realize the sad life the gay porn star lives.

1. Most porn stars were molested and abused when they were younger.

2. Most porn stars have hiv/stds.

3. Most porn stars die before they're 40.

4. Most porn stars are drug users.

Stop watching that perverted crap before you end up like the trash they are. When you're on the right path in life porn should totally disgust you. Playing with a dildo should totally disgust you. They are both corrupt acts only perverts participate in..
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>>6596788
>Most porn stars die before they're 40
I want to be a pornstar
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>Does /lgbt/ have any tips at all?

Uninstall christianity from your life and possibly from your family.
Go and be yourself, stay away from the destructive degenerate side of LGBT community.
Demand respect and help from your family even if they don't share your life "choice".Give them a bit of time.
find a boyfriend.
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>>6585672
Christian parents.
>you're fucked
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get rid of Christianity
get rid of homosexuality
get rid of your human life form
embrace the gender neutral toaster u are
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>>6596768
No, I don't have autism or apergers lol.

And I know how toxic and destructive it is, I grew up around it. I can't stand it, and I'm always open and upfront about everything almost to a fault because denying and keeping secrets really gets under my skin

But its a really effective short term way to deal with a problem when there is no other solution. I'm saying that op should do it just until they get out from their parent's control. It can keep you safe from everything at the cost of your sanity and emotional connection to people. But at least then you're safe and not at some shitty gay conversion camp.

Resistance to parents is futile so either you can lash out against them and just make life harder for yourself, or you can give up your will and pretend to be what they want and then when you move out you can cut contact and live your life.

I'm assuming its only a few years max, so do what you feel is best op. If you know your parents aren't going to do anything that endangers you physically or mentally then maybe its best to fight them and not submit your identity.
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>>6585672
Go to counseling and ask for family therapy. It will help.
Unless you are in a cuckservative area, where even the people who are supoosed to help you are assholes.
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>>6585672
Demand the good ex-gay therapy not the shitty religious therapy. The good stuff can work and then you can avoid a shitty homo life.
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>>658580
Agreed
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>>6585672
obviously you should, for being too retarded to hide your gay porn
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