Post current body edition
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▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
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▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
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Nini mtfg I love y'all please be nice
>>6568686
Goodnight bb <3
Sleep well <3
Have nice dreams <3
>>6568683
grace is the cutest
>>6568656
wow excuse you
chad has like the BIGGEST cock ever
besides, how would you even know??
he's MY boyfriend not yours it's not like chad would ever cheat on me
>>6568645
what are you TALKING about nerd?
shouldn't you
like
um
be playing chess or something?? geeks....
>>6568650
at least she can afford a decent hairdresser, Janice..... unlike... SOMEBODY
loser
The catfishing on soc is ridic
>>>/soc/24062938
nth for being a filthy, club dwelling, bass bin humping techno music listening normie
>>6568683
Night
>>6568690
thats my webm wtf
nth for death
>family reunion later today
>dad comes into room first thing in the morning while I'm unshaven
>"leave your facial hair alone today, you look great, you look like a MAN"
>"uh dad you realise I'm an adult and can make my own decisions right?"
>"you have a lovely body, don't... mess with it"
>"w-whatever dad"
>he leaves
>hear him arguing with my mum downstairs moments later begging her to let him punch me just once so I can see just how much he cares about protecting me, from the world and from myself
HAHHAHAA I NEED TO GTFO OF HERE
>>6568686
<3 night Red! I hope you get to see Kaylee again soon :)
>>6568698
was your webm
was
>>6568693
>chad has like the BIGGEST cock ever
You wish.
>besides, how would you even know??
>he's MY boyfriend not yours it's not like chad would ever cheat on me
I wouldn't be so sure about that, the man needs some water.
>>6568700
God, thats awful :/
Get out there soon <3
>>6568701
you can use it only if you think about me every time you post it
Damn. I was kinda hoping i'd feel something more than just zilcho libido after jumping on the whoremones.
>>6568711
how long has it been? it takes like two weeks to kill your libido, but then like a month after that it comes back, different though
>>6568707
are you pizza?
because I think of pizza when I post it
>>6568713
Mine only just came back now after four months
>>6568714
no im angel
i like pizza though
>>6568708
Put it in a microwave.
>>6568703
WOW says the literal superbowl princess over here
knowing how much varsity you slurp up you're one to talk about THIRST
>>6568717
b-but its a cat Chara ;~; its for cuddling, not death
>>6568700
I hope you can get out of there soon. That sounds disturbing.
Ugh, facial hair.
>>6568711
Give it a few months and you'll be wishing you had no libido
Hi /mtfg/
how are you
im feeling shitty idk
>>6568719
Someone's upset she can't keep a boy loyal to her holes ~
>>6568711
It'll come back in a few months. You'll want to be penetrated too.
>>6568700
"I hurt you because I love you "
>>6568730
Just keep holding on Smiles, it's gonna get better
Do us a favor and give us a big smile pls
>>6568734
yeah pretty much, normally it's "I control everything in your life because I love you" though
he's still trying to stop me from moving out and saying I can live at home for free and stuff
>>6568736
tfw ugly smile
>>6568732
by the way
your mom is sleeping with your bio teacher to get you passing grades :)
>>6568746
Absolutely adorable, keep that smile going, okay? No matter how tough it gets, keep it on your face because everything's gonna turn out okay.
>>6568746
you arent capable of being ugly
also I think next edition should be Dyspraxia Edition 'cause awareness of this shit needs to be raised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz6x9_E919M
>>6568753
No.
>>6568746
you look as if you almost pass pre hrt (assuming ur not)
>tfw flirting with native qts
>>6568763
>tfw first sexual experience was with a native american chick
>>6568765
>tfw had first sexual experience with a cis girl tonight
>tfw didn't like it at all
Yay I'm not a transbian after all!
>>6568717
Like your mom did to you when you were a baby?
>>6568777
if you have fantasies, then it could just be that girl
if you only fantasize about guys, then you probably aren't into girls at all
>>6568777
You passed the AGP test, you can now collect your trutrans™ points which you can cash in for dick, enjoy it.
>>6568777
Now you need to sleep with a trans girl, just to be absolutely sure.
hi i'm in spain
Sup familia I'm a druggie now
>>6568765
are you the fucking British hun who keeps crying about tranny problems while have kayla syndrome?
fuck off and get a fucking job kid
>>6568780
and you too holy fuck; you are one of the most wretched leeches i have ever herd of. can only exist off the hard work of others while providing nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oe_qPcTnz0
fuck, I'm getting relatable feels from these videos ;-;
>>6568788
I'm the one who's moving out of their parents' house in the next few weeks and currently set to pass a STEM degree, actually
>>6568785
hi I am in my pjs
>>6568786
Wut did you take?
>>6568794
Mushrooms.
This dog knows whats up
Any of you trannies play Mobage games?
>>6568796
Good shit senpai, having a fun time?
Bad news... A cousin's wife just died from a fast evolving case of early Alzheimer's. And siblings rivalry never dies, my sister won't talk to my parents because she's jealous since my mother came with me to Thailand...
Add to that that my weekend plans are dead because the pride I was supposed to go to is cancelled and I wouldn't mind a morale boost.
>>6568778
What does that mean.
>>6568788
also
>care about passing and sad about being unpassing- people get pissed off and tell me to stop whinging, stop caring so much, etc.
>try to not care about passing and just make the best of life- people get pissed off and call me a fetishist, not really trans, hon etc.
idgi
>>6568785
Do you like it so far?
>>6568785
i tried to add you on skype, but idk if it worked
>>6568801
I'm done now, finished coming down an hour ago.
I ate them on a whim. Someone offered and i was really bored and agitated so i had some. I was feeling the effects about 40 minutes later, just weightlessness and sort of ticklish all over when i was offered about the same amount over again. I think 1.5 grams total.
So the trip was a lot of laughing that then turned into crying. All very manic and loud. Some yelling as well. Then it subsided and i was coming down....and then the second serving came in i think because i got really bad all over again.
Had a couple hallucinations. Only when my eyes were closed. Totally gonna do it a fuck ton now. Wondering if I'll be ok to do it alone.
>>6568805
lol u are amazing
>>6568785
So have fun in Spain don't post in depression general.
>>6568814
Yeah, mushrooms are a weird and scattered experience, it sounds like you had a bit of a chaotic trip. Was it at least pleasant? Crying during trips can be pretty intense in a bad way, I know the last time I did acid I got super sad and just bawled my eyes out.
>>6568788
Aren't you a pill popping camwhore? Not that you are not right about those two, I am just trying to place you.
>>6568805
Shut the fuck up about your (real and imagined) disabilities you scat and vomit fetishist. You are about as trans as Kayla.
Also jeff got extremely drunk right as i came down and he got very drunkenly angry at me for not wanting to have sex with him.
I apparently am using him because we hang out and I'll drink if he offers me alcohol or I'll take drugs if he offers them but i wont fuck him. He gets upset when i don't give him all of my attention.
Right now he's in the other room telling people that i tease him so he'll give me things. Because the other day he was hugging on me and grabbing me and i was too polite (AND EXTREMELY WASTED) to tell him to get off.
Men disgust me.
>>6568788
>anyone similar to kayla
kayla is a spoiled shut-in who makes up fantastic lies
>>6568825
you should have sex with him though
at least give him a handy
>>6568821
Calm down irc hon
angie passed away
>>6568825
>I apparently am using him because we hang out and I'll drink if he offers me alcohol or I'll take drugs if he offers them but i wont fuck him.
It's this idea that some men have that because they willingly give you stuff you owe them some, usually sexual, favor.
It's stupid. Just tell him that you wont, and he can stop offering you free stuff if he's not okay with getting nothing in return.
>>6568825
>taking strong mind altering substances around potentially hostile friends
Please be careful Oddish, a seriously bad trip can be traumatising
>>6568831
anyone have angie noods? i need to cum to a hon real bad
Is this the right thread for a cis boy to ask some (non-lewd) questions?
>>6568834
Yo, it's Jeff, oddish's old orommate. Ask me anything.
>>6568833
Sir who cares who I defend. Your attitude is very masculine
>>6568837
go for it these trannies post here for attention ur just helping them by giving it to them
Why do I keep seeing my face and chin as really long? This didn't happen a week ago, how can I stop?
>>6568836
Cum to sheen, Kayla, anna, Edgar or the rest of the hons
>>6568841
if you're not trans nor a chaser, what are you?
>>6568841
OK.
1. I pretty much have a fetish exclusively for mtfs. Like, I can go with girls and some boys are nice too, but nothing is more attractive to me than mtfs. Does that make me a chaser? Is that necessarily bad?
>>6568840
Be quiet Whingie.
>>6568843
no i need angie, even face pix would be sweet
>>6568848
Sir please stop scaring the girls here with your masculinity
>>6568819
I experienced a lot of emotions sort of simultaneously. I understand myself better after it. I think i thought i needed to kill myself because there was no reason to live. But I feel like tripping helped me realize i can live without a reason.
Idk its pretty pretentious to say shrooms changed your life or something. Definitely helped me understand my own feelings better though.
Overall, good trip. Good experience.
>>6568834
I was fortunate that my trip and his drunkenness were at separate times. I'll not trip with him again.
>>6568849
trip on alc
>>6568847
yes ur a chaser. the difference is if u act like a chaser normally does if that makes sense. like a chubby chaser with cis women, or if uve seen nip tuck, that one episode where gina or w/e gets preggos and the store clerk gets all weird over her preggo belly.
don't be weird, treat them as a regular bitch and u'll be good.
expect x20 more drama nd more problems tho
>>6568847
Idk
Most bi people I know have a preference for mtf's. Because dicks are better than pussys
>>6568849
Why not just hit up the archive? Or if you are that lazy just google pics of young Stephen King.
>>6568854
Heh, I live in Kansas. There aren't any actual mtfs around here.
>>6568854
>x20 more drama and more problems
>>6568857
oh god ty, was like looking at a pre hrt photo, feels like scratching that itch u couldnt scratch from b4
>>6568857
I don't get this reference?
I don't see any resemblance to Stephen King and her.
>>6568851
You won't be at this house ever again, let alone do drugs with us again. ilet you come over here out of pity, because you said things were gonig poorly with your parents, then yu come over and tell me to kill myself, when we had no discussions about sex or expectations at all. Why the fuck are you lying to /mtfg/
>>6568864
time stamp to show your not a mtfg shitter
>>6568866
just anon who despises trips.
I just don't get the whole Stephen King meme
>>6568871
>the x20 more drama and problems is true. look at this shit
Yeah, but can you blame them? They're going through tough shit.
Do we really need the irc shitting up this place?
>>6568867
oddish will confirm for me, I'm sure. here's a pic of us together. She has the webcam.
>>6568871
>>6568871
>>6568864
>>6568851
>>6568868
How new are you?
>>6568851
It's a cliche for a reason, psychedelics can be weirdly impactful and help you work through complex feelings. Other times they're just stupid giggly fun. Glad that you had a good first time.
(Not to be too much of a bad influence, but LSD is even better than shrooms imo, highly recommended)
>>6568839
I don't want to get involved in this drama, I'm just a simple druggie talking about drugs.
>>6568868
angie pls post pix i need more oc for this boner
>>6568875
you are prettier than her
>>6568863
Just cuz I am feeling a wee bit /cgl.
>>6568883
lol is that her?
>>6568877
I wouldn't say new unless you consider being in this toxic dump for a year is still new
>>6568878
Anyone that knows me knows I'm the complete opposite of hostile, I did everything and anything I could for Oddish out of kidnness.
>>6568881
Thanks, I like to think that I'm kinda cute.
>>6568883
most beta just need a make over and they're fine
going tranny is a bit too far
>>6568883
Ok I can kind of see it when she was pre-hrt
>>6568864
You are literally so drunk you dont understand what I'm saying.
And you're a sexist sociopath. I came over to hang out with a friend and forget my problems. But all you can do is try to guilt me into literally pity fucking you because you need me to validate your own over inflated opinion of yourself.
And if i don't you'll kill yourself. What i was telling you tonight Jeff is that, yea, maybe you want to kill yourself. I wanted to kill myself too. But it doesn't matter. Either we kill ourselves or we don't. And personally, I'm not going to kill myself because dead or alive I'm nothing. Dead or alive, Jeff, you are nothing. You have no reason. And thats okay. You can live without having a reason to live. Or not, idc. Just stop trying to get me drunk or high so you can fuck me.
You also threatened to kill a dog tonight. And then you threatened to smash my head in with a huge glass bottle. So no, i probably wont be hanging out with you again, will I?
>>6568887
oddish, you fucked up
>>6568885
That was her pre-hrt
She looks different now last pic I saw
>>6568854
>. the difference is if u act like a chaser normally does if that makes sense
So to recap, just don't be a fucking creep.
>>6568878
I heard some drugs allow you to see yourself without being clouded by dysphoria
is that true?
>>6568885
Yes that is Hongie in all of her pre-transition glory.
>>6568888
>most beta just need a make over and they're fine
Bull-fucking-shit. That's like half the posters here. You remove the losers from /a an /v and you really aren't left with much.
>>6568889
>>6568891
That was just me being a meanie. Angie looks better now. A lot better actually. But still just as annoyingly crazy.
Now she looks like Stephen King's younger sister.
>>6568896
yup. if you treat them like a regular human being you'll be fine. depending on the type of person they are, if u ever phuk, might want to talk about each others needs before hand. personally my bf barely touches my junk, rarely gives me head since i can't cum from that shit anyways. he only did do it because he "felt" like he needed to reciprocate.
if u want to play with some cock n balls then you gotta be slick and let her open to you about it or touch it on accident after a couple of times of intimacy.
>>6568901
>threatened to kill a dog tonight
is this fucking true
wtf boy
>>6568899
>Now she looks like Stephen King's younger sister.
daughter desu
actually angie looks more like Stephen King's daughter than Stephen King's daughter does
>>6568903
>if you think life means nothing you wouldn't care if I killed this dog
how the fuck is this a threat
>>6568898
Idk, not really consistently ime. Psychedelics make my reflection look super weird, last time I looked in a mirror on acid I looked horribly deformed. MDMA makes me look super bug eyed and fucked up, it's not flattering. When I look in the mirror on speed I actually feel pretty good about myself and pretty dysphoria free generally, until I get really tweaking and get that bug eyed, glazed over expression.
Drugs don't effectively remove dysphoria, the euphoria just sort of masks it.
>>6568907
>>6568908
Joff pls
Go and have this argument irl, you homo.
>>6568892
I find him physically unattractive.
But more importantly to me is his opinions on life and how vain and disgusting he is.
>>6568908
A quick correction
>jeff: humans aren't meaningless because we mean more than dogs
>jade: by what objective standard are you applying that though
>jeff: i can kill this dog. So I'm better than him. Therefor humans matter more than dogs.
>>6568906
yup. but desu there are probably trannies in kansas, ive spoken to quite a bit over the years from there, probably like 10-15. they just hide or still aren't presenting for whatever reason.
gl finding ur tranny bride
>>6568909
>Drugs don't effectively remove dysphoria, the euphoria just sort of masks it.
I should stockpile some drugs in the event I get dysphoric
>>6568899
>>6568907
I disagree judging by this photo I find in the archive
I reallyyyyyy want pretzel crust pizza right now.
>>6568913
HES CUTE
>>6568913
you realise making a hypothetical for sake of an argument is not the same thing as making a threat
>>6568916
Take it from someone who's been on and off drugs for 7 years, you really should find healthier coping methods.
>>6568909
O sacred mother of all things drugs...
I pray you will impart some of your degenerate narcotics wisdom unto this mere mortal, blessed art thou
So, you said about shrooms being used to sort of resolve deep-seated issues...In what way does that come about? Like, is it just something I'll need to think over while I'm high, or should I have someone there to talk things through with?
>>6568923
You just want more drugs for yourself, you can't fool me!
>>6568908
but boy, dogs are better people than people desu
tell me you u wouldn't pick a pupper over oddish
>>6568923
What other methods are available?
>>6568916
You can never really have enough.
>hating puppers
w-why would you hate a puppers? 3;
>>6568915
I feel like the only ways to find them are pretty sleazy. /lgbt/ and craigslist, mainly. It doesn't feel right.
when u spend 12 hours playing vidya wit the boy u have a date with and think about sleeping but then u see drama in the thread and feel woke af
>>6568934
Yup, so much drama here today 3:
>>6568926
No, I legitimately don't want people to cope this way, it's undeniably pretty terrible for you.
>>6568928
Exercise
Get sunlight
Having an active social life
Having steady and rewarding employment
Idk, fill your life with things that make the dysphoria bearable when it rears its head. Don't mask it with drugs.
>>6568925
It's unpredictable, there's not really any way to bring it about. It's sort of why psys aren't considered that useful in psychiatry, even if they can be amazingly beneficial, it's not consistently reproducible. If the trip ends up there, your thoughts will go there.
>>6568934
>commenting on other people's drama
let's not forget you are forever tied to that cancer called faye
>>6568932
BUY ME PIZZA? :D
>>6568937
I tried exercise but I gave up and became depressed, I'm too anxious to have a good social life and I'm trying to get part-time employment atm
>>6568937
>Exercise
>Get sunlight
>Having an active social life
>Having steady and rewarding employment
So when are you going to start doing those?
>>6568936
>>6568938
>>6568939
all tru statements
i'm just glad it's not about me for once and i can be one of the ppl just commenting about it being nosey, it's a nice change of pace u know
>>6568943
I exercise and have more of a social life than I've had in years. The rest is still a work in progress.
>>6568942
It should be added that if you don't have work, you can't really afford drugs anyways, so it's sort of a moot point to consider self medicating.
>>6568945
hey. post butt or else.
>>6568935
I don't understand the not-Angie meme either but ok
>>6568951
How'd you get drugs if you weren't employed?
>>6568951
>mtfg
>social life
Pick one
>>6568937
Fate works in mysterious ways, doesn't it?
>>6568958
School wasn't my only source of debt. Thank fuck I never got into coke.
>>6568959
Strange but true, when I'm not shitposting I sometimes go outside and see people. I was at a show like 3 hours ago.
>>6568962
I'm sure you were :^)
>>6568962
>debt
Shit, I should be more careful when considering things like drugs
>>6568921
Literally held the dog in his hand after making the movement to crush its head with his feet. Later he made another hypothetical about killing me with a huge glass bottle he had, and he moved the bottle in his hand as if to hit me with it.
Language implies desire, motion proves intent.
>>6568920
He's got gross dead teeth, he's white. He doesnt like to work out. He is physically everything that is unattractive to me.
23:06 honeysuckle angie passed away last night
23:06 Fluppy Wat
23:06 Trynity Confirm or GTFO
23:07 honeysuckle sorry its just a meme
23:07 sbi angie is immortal
23:08 VictoriaZ welp there goes $25k of ffs down the drain
23:08 *** Hannah quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:08 Trynity ???
23:08 sbi ffs can't fix crazy, it was wasted money from the start even if it did help her looks
23:09 Trynity tru
23:10 *** loosethernetcord quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:13 *** MissFox joined #mtfg
23:13 +++ raawr has given voice to MissFox
23:14 *** poisonousfeline joined #mtfg
23:14 +++ raawr has given voice to poisonousfeline
23:16 eloelodie like, people blaming spiegel aren't getting it, she was going in to fix her brains, which everyone was telling her for a year before she had it
23:20 sbi well i guess i have to ban you for bullying in the irc
23:21 VictoriaZ it was zukowski
23:21 VictoriaZ I was gonna go with Z til I saw angie :X
23:22 eloelodie oh right
23:23 eloelodie also lol
23:23 eloelodie okay let's make a guess
23:23 eloelodie is our anon angie or just someone trying to make drama without being angie
23:23 *** loosethernetcord joined #mtfg
23:23 +++ raawr has given voice to loosethernetcord
23:23 sbi Does it matter? If angie wanted to be a person instead of a high concept troll she wouldn't have dropped trip years ago.
23:24 VictoriaZ >>6567582
23:24 sbi at this point she's a style of trolling as much as she is a singular person
23:24 VictoriaZ angie's alive
23:25 sbi Of course. Her suicide date isn't until next month and she has admitted she just wants attention and to worry her mother
23:26 honeysuckle well someone in here is/was posting this stuff the other day they were listing specific nicks talking about angie in here
23:37 eloelodie I don't think I've looked at /adv/ more than once desu
23:37 Ling i met my current bf off of /adv/ ^^
>>6568962
So I bought the epilator yesterday. Got super drunk and woke up with both legs done, one arm and half my pubic hair :/
You know what the best part is about this argument I'm having with jeff? That he couldn't have with me in person so he decided to drag my name through the muck on 4chan? His computer doesnt have a wifi connector so i was letting him use mine. And now I'm not.
If he wants to be petty and talk about how much he gave to me or sacrificed for me with nothing in return, well, so be it.
>>6568965
:^)
Christian Martin from dirtybird records, probably the best techno show I've ever been to. Spent all night by the bass bins killing my ears and looking high af.
>>6568967
Yes, you should. They're dangerous when you use them that way.
>>6568961
Yup.
>>6568972
Lol damn, success at least.
>>6568969
Well that would lose some points i suppose.
>>6568974
In an odd way, thanks for arguing with him here - I really needed to see it. Some of the things you said to him were kinda. A huge red flag for me about the toxic details of my life. I really needed to see that, you and him arguing, to bring it to my attention. So thank you.
>>6568974
just suck his dick so he shuts up
>>6568940
I'd love to.
>>6568969
you're exaggerating, I was clearly making a hypoethetical for both arguments. This was after you threw frozen packages of vegetables weighing 10 lbs at me repeatedly through the night.
>>6568969
I'm working on my teeth, something I've had trouble with since childhood. Everyone has flaws. I don't like to work out because I don't like buff guys.
Also oddish took her wireless adapter away from my computer thinking I coudlnt' argue this further. Such a shallow way to get people to gain her side. Luckliy I could just do a direct lan connect.
how come the crazies always need to make a big deal about their drama? if it's irl they are screaming where lots of people are, apparently if its online they have to do it on an open forum. why can't people just stick to using quiet voices and pming
>>6568975
>techno
>best
If it isn't made by an instrument, it isn't music. Nice try though derpanna
>>6568980
Yay pizza :3
>>6568983
Get back to your retirement home, Grandpa.
Salut les filles, ça va?
What'd I miss?
>>6568983
so ppl singing isn't music? acapella isn't a form of music?
>>6568983
>instruments
>music
If it's not made by hitting unprocessed rocks and sticks together it's LITERALLY not music.
>>6568984
Pizza is the best. Do you have skype/are you cute?
>>6568989
Only if the produce a natural sound
>>6568983
>not appreciating masterful DJing slowly building and releasing tension over multiple hours
>not dancing to and getting lost in the groovy machine music for hours
>not feeling and building off the energy of everyone around you
U just don't get it
>>6568998
>techno
>groovy
Quit Trolling derpanna
>>6568998
>not feeling and building off the energy of everyone around you
I find it hard to do this by dancing. I prefer to sit at the sidelines and feed off the energy in the room and chat with people.
I love watching people dance though.
And I love dancing in my room.
I'm not planning on going full-time for another 1.5 years, so if I stay on HRT long enough will I be outted or called a girl? Will my boy mode fail?
>>6569007
yes
>>6569007
Depends on your generics
Most here look like men so your outlook doesn't look good
>>6569000
Groovy, driving, rolling, deep, dark, big room, minimal, take your pick. You're rustling my jimmies, how can you not see that the techno is king?
>>6569001
Honestly I sometimes do that too if I'm too tired to dance, chilling on the sidelines is good too. Good vibes.
>>6569009
I don't wanna get outted before then tho
>>6569011
I'm young so idk
>>6569015
I'm no where near as manly as edgar
>>6569013
You wont be outed for just being on hrt, unless your boobs grow too big.
Just put some effort into dressing like a boy and you'll be fine.
>>6569020
I hope you're right, I really don't wanna come out at school
>>6569012
>she is still awake
what are you doing bby ;~;
>>6569022
>I'm a cis guy
Not if you're hanging around here you aren't.
You should do it anyway. No one likes sucking on hair.
>>6569025
Hi mummy <3
>>6569028
I'm a man and so are you
>>6569015
You're not supposed to listen to it, you're supposed to feel it.
>>6569016
A good disco is hard to beat. Emphasis on good, clubbing can be pretty terrible.
>>6569025
I'm still all hyped up from beer and techno ;-;
>>6569032
There's nothing to feel about techno.
It's bad music and you have bad taste
>>6569030
hai bby
>>6569032
>ywn go clubbing with elanna
why live ;~~;
>>6569036
Fuck of with your everyone is a girl meme, sir
>>6569037
>tfw
Elanna seems fun
>>6569037
*cuddles* :3
Its the weeeekeeeeend :D
How are you today?
>>6569039
There are no boys on the internet.
>>6569033
Such a Debbie Downer, you need some PLUR
>>6569036
I was under the impression that clubs were generally better overseas than here in the middle of bumfuck nowhere.
>>6569037
;-;
I didn't want these feels.
>>6569043
Sir please stop your stupid Memes.
It's as cancerous as the anime autism posting
>>6569046
Fuck off with your plur and get some taste my man
>>6569042
>Why?
I dont care about clubs, just wanna hang out with her royal cuteness
I do like techno tho
>>6569041
<3
not very good. will probably shower, do my work and go back to bed.
>>6568993
Charapsyka
no
>>6569051
Ah, yeah if you aren't feeling well sleep is a good idea <3
Hopefully you feel better later/tomorrow <3
>>6569051
>derpanna
>cute
Well I guess if you like fembois
>>6569052
I'll add you anyways though I won't have much tiem to talk due to oddish taking her wireless adapter from me.
also I'm going to fuck oddish's high school crush just to spite her I think.
>>6569051
>I do like techno tho
I thought you would be more into martial industrial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivP1qYG_tLw
>>6569054
Whingie stop hitting on derpanna.
>>6569050
So mean
I'm sorry that you don't appreciate dance music, you really are missing out on some pretty good release.
>>6569051
German techno best techno
>>6569058
>hitting on a femboi
>>6569036
>>Dublin clubs
>Not west cork raves
smdh
>>6569059
>techno
>good
Have you ever thought about being a comedian
>>6569060
Still hitting on your better.
>>6569055
Yay ^^
>>6569059
Elanna would you rave to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTW6fZz-1E
>>6569064
>fembois
>better
Confused.jpg
>>6569056
I like that as well.
currently I am mostly into sappy lovesongs though
>>6569063
You laugh, but have you ever just danced from sunset to sunrise? There's no experience like it.
>>6569067
Probably not, I need to be pretty fucked up to get anything out of donk music.
>>6569071
what would you rave to? post a song?
>25 years old
>stocky
>hairy
>always wanted to transition but never had the means
>now that I have the means it's too late
>>6569071
Only dancing that matters to me is ballroom dancing
>>6569076
this is my weakness
are those at home IPL or laser things worth it? I have pale skin and almost black hair
or do I just suck it up and drop $400 on 6 sessions of laser?
will need to finish it off with electrolysis either way but that's expensive so I think lasering it down first is the way to go
>>6569083
oh yeah, talking about face hair here but anything else I can get rid of would be cool too
>>6569073
its only too late if you dont take action now
everyone who has started at 25 in this thread has passed
everyone who has waited until 30+ has had problems
>>6569083
Just get laser.
Pale skin and dark hair is the best combination for it.
>>6569085
>everyone who has started at 25 in this thread has passed
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
COMEDY GOLD
I think the fact that I can't exercise or play sport is a big factor in how depressed I am desu
I have a lot of pent-up stress I have no way of releasing.
>>6568819
>>6568851
>>6568878
I really fucking need to get my hands on some psychedelics
>>6568898
not every time but I do think on weed it's true for me sometimes, I look really different in the mirror
I'm pretty sensitive to weed though, two tokes can put me out of commission for the night
>>6568909
oh yeah, first time I tried ABV I looked in the mirror and I didn't even look human. nobody did. big pink misshapen asymmetrical mostly-hairless apes. it was like I was an alien seeing the human species for the first time.
>>6569085
threadly reminder that I'm 21 and look like a mid-30s creepy hon uncle
genetics are more important than age
>>6569085
I doubt it, mate. I'm fucking bursting with testosterone (except where my personality is concerned).
>>6569072
Hard to narrow it down to one song. I like techno when it's played in clubs mostly, I've yet to hear it at a festival. I like house, I like breakbeat, I sometimes like eurotrance. For going all night at outdoor shows though, psytrance is my favourite.
https://youtu.be/2fGKG61chbY
https://youtu.be/KkZM6Cbi-L8
>>6569076
Are you sure you're not a girl?
>>6569092
lose weight
losing 3.5 stone did far more for me than HRT has so far lol
>>6569093
these songs do sound like what one would be listening to while tripping out :P
>>6569086
so for 400 should I get an at home laser thing or 6 actual sessions on my face?
>>6569092
seriously lose weight
go Auschwitz mode
then start hrt and go back to eating whatever
>>6569090
>Get laser. IPL is garbage.
If done right, its the exact same result. applying IPL correctly is just harder
>>6569104
get sessions. home things tend to have lower maxstrength and might not be strong enough. too risky.
>>6568683
Red... I don't know what else to say
>>6569095
But the only people who like ballroom dancing are girls and old people, and apparently you're neither .-.
>>6569102
Yup!! Definitely benefits from a bit of acid. I'm getting pretty hype, 3 night festival next weekend, gonna get my fill of psytrance. Haven't been since 2014
https://youtu.be/r1i6zROVAOI
>>6569104
100% get sessions.
>>6569085
I started at 22 and don't pass
>>6569106
Mummy, how do I put on nail varnish properly :?
>>6569113
It's called having taste
Something you know nothing about
>>6569120
I am not very good at that either, havent done it in quite a while cause too poor to buy nail polish. youre probably better off googling ;~;
sowwy
>>6569113
>ywn rave with Elanna
>>6569122
Thank you anyway mummy <3 c:
One day I will be able to put on nail polish without making a mess :P
>>6569117
You seem to pass in most of your pictures.
>>6569126
>I'm 6'7 irl
>>6569121
But grandpa, ballrooms haven't been cool since the other side of ww2
>>6569124
;_;
I'll take drugs for two, you'll be there in spirit.
>>6569130
>you'll be there in spirit.
aww that's sweet, party hard in my name
>>6569129
I don't believe that
>>6569130
Sir you need to drop your shitty music and anime and get a mature taste
>>6569134
But then I'd just be old and grumpy like you, that doesn't sound fun.
>>6569131
<3 I hope I don't need my stomach pumped
>>6569133
I'm 6'7 and I used to be a professional body builder
>>6569138
<3
taking all those drugs will make you ascended tho
>>6569139
post full body pic of you standing next to a measuring tape you liar
>make grindr acct bc why not
>immediately get 4 chats as soon as my pic gets approved
uhh what. I thought gay guys hated trannies. :s
I wanna start doing some some corset training, any advice on what to get or where to buy?
>>6568978
Stay safe anon
>>6569150
seriously though
suck his dick
>tfw going to change my legal name to Rrobynne once I move out
kek my dad is gonna be so proud of me
>>6569155
why two r
Ohh thank you rain! I allways did wanna look like a circus clown....
>>6569138
>old
I'm 22
>grumpy
Because I don't have a immature taste
>>6568778
I did nothing of the sort how dare you
>>6569157
Ahh, man. I liked you with that quirky short Emma Watson-esque pixie cut.
>tfw you wake up and realise you spent £200 in a day
>>6569163
Oh come now, I'm older than you, I shouldn't have to tell you to lighten up. You literally have your whole life ahead of you to be a grump about young whippersnappers and their techno music, what's the rush?
>>6569169
on what?
>>6569173
food and alcohol
>>6569171
Sorry I'm not immature like you.
It must suck to be you sir
>>6569156
because I'm a total freak so I might as well push the envelope and be self-aware about it in an ironic and postmodern sense
>>6569166
It really wasnt short i just had it in a ponytail
>>6569179
You're probably trolling but, any person that cares about others taste in music, dancing, and uses the phrase "immature taste" is not mature.
>>6569165
confirming this, my woman is a great mother
>>6569185
Maybe I want to better derpanna
>>6569178
ouch
>>6569179
Wow, you're exceptionally grumpy today. Why you gotta be that way.
>>6569193
>I know my tastes are childish
>>6569187
>ywn help birdy in her early stages of transition
>ywn go dress shopping with birdy
>ywn go on a girls night out with birdy
>ywn comfort birdy because she broke up with her boyfriend
>>6569196
Caring about taste is for teenagers, narcissists, and the insecure.
>>6569202
It isn't insecure at all.
Adults are suppose to do adult things.
hello!
>>6569191
fun night though
>>6569205
Hi Nim <3
>>6569205
Oh hey <3
>>6569212
Hi Faye <3
>tfw you want to go depression nap but you cant cause he takes your blankets away
>>6569214
What do you need blankets for senpai, is it not still fucking hot there?
>>6569216
its like 18°
thats too cold for only sleeping in panties
>>6569201
>tfw birdy is gonna take me dress shopping
>>6569219
Oh, that's actually pretty low, I thought you had 30+ a few weeks ago, does it go down that fast?
>>6569218
That's where you're wrong.
Look at how certain things are geared towards children, for example:
Video games, types of food, clothes, music, ect
>>6569213
*yaaaayyyynnnnn
*stretccccccch
Hi you
>>6569220
omg
make him wear a dress!
>>6569222
it went from 30 to sub20 within like 2 days. we only had like 3 hot days so far (which is very good, cause we dont have an AC and live under the roof. its warmer in here than its outside). So I only passed out like 4 times so far this summer, and its already half over. I hope it stays that way.
>>6569225
>reads posts
Looks like oddishes boy wanted sexy stuff for giving her drugs, and they yelled at each other about it?
Personally I went to ghost busters and wasn't ready for my heels to be making like a ton of noise on the pavement as I was walking and was kinda self conscious about it the whole night >.>
>>6569223
I think you're really over thinking this. Life was not meant to be taken this seriously, just enjoy it instead of getting hung up on whether something is wrong or right.
>>6569225
I'm super tired, I haven't slept ;-;
>>6569232
>This is creepy
you're creepy
>>6569229
I'm ok girlfriend is asleep next to me and I'm waiting for her to wake up so in playing games on my phone and mtfging
How are you?
>>6569232
Really? I was absolutely crying from laughing so hard, and like people were losing there shit all around me to the point it was a little annoying.
>>6569236
I'm doing good <3
>>6569234
>I'm super tired, I haven't slept ;-;
G O TO B E D
Ill even tuck you in and cuddle you and stuff
;~;
pic related
>>6569237
>I was absolutely crying from laughing so hard
you have a very bad sense of humor
you probably like judd apatow comedies
>>6569238
>who clearly isn't trans
Sure...
>>6569237
I didn't find it funny and found all the main characters to be very annoying especially Leslie Jones who I couldn't tell if that was a woman or a man.
>>6569238
the fuck you say about chef boyardee?
>>6569238
>just want to fetishize him
Or that you have good taste
>>6569238
>clearly isn't trans
like all chasers, he is repressed
>>6569241
That pic has some really messed up anatomy.
;)
>>6569259
so you are saying if you are trutrans you will find ghostbusters funny?
>>6569238
An adult realistically could not dress like a child, because an adult is larger than a child.
An adult can eat lunchables or chef boyardee if they damn well please, most don't because they taste like garbage.
I'm just saying, do you want to live the life you want, or the life someone else wants? Having a quarter life crisis as a wake-up call sucks, but the mindset you're touting really sets you up for one.
>>6569241
But I don't wanna
>>6569251
No!
>>6569259
I don't care what gender they where, it's just that the acting was very stiff with an uninteresting story. Plus they destroyed the original gb theme with their own horrible rendition and also had a dmx track in there. Seriously!? DMX!?
The whole movie played out like one wry bad SNL skit
>>6569263
Noooooo... just,on average, women and critics are the only ones who really liked it.
>>6569266
>But I don't wanna
>she doesnt wanna cuddle
okay ;~;
What does "hon" mean?
>>6569270
No no, I want to cuddle, I don't want to bedtime ;-;
>>6569272
horny old nonpasser
>>6569272
Women who look like men or non-passing trannies
memes
>>6569259
>men gave it a 3 on average in IMDb, and women gave it an 8
That just reeks of bullshit
>>6569266
it wasn't a suggestion! go to bed or i'll take away your shitposting privileges!
>>6569267
Putting party up in here on a comedy movie is supposed to be groan inducing
And I don't mind the new ghostbusters theme except the missy Eliot parts, and they cut her part from the movie, it's not any crazier then having pic related do your theme and literally say the movie title 100 times during it
>>6569279
Have you forgotten who you are talking to? A middle-aged man trying to pass as a progressive tranny.
The movie is so bad it's about to bomb it's opening weekend.
>>6569273
sorry, am not having a good day (for no particular reason, its so silly, nothing even happened)
I am going to contain my autism now though
>>6568746
Ftmg here please be my gf
>>6569286
*cuddles and hugs*
<3
>>6569279
Here I googled the current score for you
It's now 4.1 and 7.8
>>6569286
*cuddles* <3
>>6569285
>doubting faye
Why, I actually take time to research and present truth to show different sides of things rather then be an edge lord anon ^_^
>>6569290
I don't doubt they're the numbers on the website, I just think they've been brigaded to fuck. Look at its like/dislike ratio on youtube.
>tfw cant go to a movie without getting one of these and drenching it with butter and salt
anyone know this feel
>>6569289
<3
>>6569292
no ;~;
its okay tho, d/w bby <3
when are you going to move?
>>6569293
pic related <3
>>6569296
I know the trailer was bad, I thought it was bad, I thought the missy Eliot drop ruined the themesong, I hated everyone in it's previous movies
And then it was the best comedy of the summer, and top 3 action movies with all these horrible Unfun bombs all summer
>>6569292
you should thought about that before you stayed up all night!
>>6569297
And then eating it all up during commercials?
yes
>>6569301
that's what the free refill's for
>>6569298
I leave on the 27th, but I'm going to a music festival the weekend before, basically have until Thursday to say all my goodbyes and stuff. I'm so excited but nervous right now.
>>6569300
It's not unusual that I can't sleep after parties ;-;
>>6569302
We don't have free refills here for the same reason asian countries ban nordics from buffets and free bars
>>6569305
>I'm so excited but nervous right now.
same
>>6568825
Hey, you really don't need to keep being friends with him if he's gonna treat you like that.
Idk how long you've passed or what your story is, but this is setting off so, so many red flags for me (afab). Men are NOT patient, and you really, truly don't know who you can trust.
Always, always have a female friend around that you can depend on if you're going to get wasted.
This goes for all of you ladies who don't know firsthand what this is like. You have to be very, very careful
Dudes can be great, you can have amazing close platonic friendships with them. It can happen. But you still have to take every precaution, because some of them are shit and sometimes you can't tell the difference.
Not even that they're shit and hurt you on purpose, but... Sometimes they just don't think, y'know? And the result is the same.
>>6569290
>women give mobie high score
>men give it shit score
why is this?
>>6569313
Because most people voted to make a point.
>been a while since last measured bobs
>measure this morning just to see if any progress has been made
>already a C cup
h e l p im only 6 months in is this too fast?
>>6569317
double check your underbust measurement
>>6569319
>followed by women liking it and voting after they watched
you mean femnazis brigaded it after?
>>6568788
??????
>>6568716
Do you know how that pizza was made, like what cheese does it use? I realy need to have one just like it and i live in Australia where only shit pizza is sold in shops, so i will have to make it myself
>clubbing last night
>even tho I'm fat guys keep trying to dance with me but they're all uggo
>some guys have bottle service and invite us to their table
>get free drinks and then ditch them to dance again
Being a girl is pretty dope
>>6568887
You look like a fuckboy
4/10 would not bang
How does one get the courage to kill themselves?
>>6569305
you gotta take care of yourself ):
>>6569319
>followed by women liking it and voting after they watched
I actually meant it both ways, a lot of women also gave it 10/10 to make a statement as much as men gave it a 1/10.
The 4.x it got is probably around how much it would have gotten anyway, as a comedy.
But the rating is absolutely pointless for this movie as it is, given how controversial it is.
>>6569327
guys are attracted to fat girls too
WHAT MOVIE SHOULD I GO SEE AS AN EXCUSE TO BUY A TUB OF POPCORN
>>6569319
>voting one
hey thats pretty good
>>6569336
Why not just buy the popcorn?
>>6569334
So how much did it make? Ratings are subjective, hard cash isn't.
>>6569339
BECAUSE IT DOESNT TASTE THE SAME OKAY
NO ONE UNDERSTANDS THIS BUT ME
Please respond >>6569330
>>6569343
nim shut up. You're making me hungry and I am thinking of getting a pizza.
>>6569331
My body doesn't deserve care, piece of shit doesnt even have the right chromosomes.
>>6569327
>ywn be a grown woman like Maddie
>straight guys will never buy you drinks
>>6569323
oh right I just remembered muff believes innocent little sam
sad
>>6569351
DON'T TELL NIM TO SHUT UP D:<
>>6568898
I don't have any experience with harder stuff, but I'd recommend getting stoned. When I'm really high, I can almost like, dissociate on command I guess? Like I can pretend that my body feels the way I wanted to. I dunno how to explain it really. But it helps a lot with my dysphoria unless I accidentally brush up against something or if I'm having sex without something to contain my tiddies (sorry, ftmg shitposter here again to fuck up your day).
Anyway tl;dr smoke weed erreday
>>6569342
A quick google search showed 45 million so far, I can't be bothered to check this number further though.
>>6569352
I don't want to anymore
Living is painful
>>6569353
It's not your body's fault your brain is all messed up.
>>6569354
U just have to believe in urself
>>6569335
Eye mean I am a bimbo so I guess it makes sense
>>6569353
our bodies suck like in the womb nigga couldn't you figure out I wasn't supposed to have a penis?
>>6569353
but you matter
>>6569367
>tfw old enough to have wanted this
Logan's run culling when
>>6569360
That's pretty low. And after all that advertising.
Guess this is yet another Sony flop.
>>6569362
take life by the reigns and find purpose!
don't let depression win!
>>6569364
Yeah it is don't be a victim blamer
>>6569368
Technically, if we hadn't gotten fucked up in the womb we'd all just be perfectly normal males.
>>6569372
But every once in a while I like to absolutely wreck my body. It feels like payback.
>>6569356
??????
>>6569381
It has won a long time ago. I'll never be a girl no matter how hard I try
>>6569385
my mom was 40 when i was conceived and my dad was cancer-ridden so i was fugged from the start
it's also why i'm so cancerous ;^)
is it fun stirring a pot to create drama
I don't come here often enough anymore and I forget
inclined to say yes but only selectively, and probably only if your life is boring enough
Had a bittersweet dream.
I got to live with Kaylee and love her every day but I was so fucked up from being sexually abused and harassed that I had seizure episodes from some guy flashing me his dick
>>6569394
23:06 honeysuckle angie passed away last night
23:06 Fluppy Wat
23:06 Trynity Confirm or GTFO
23:07 honeysuckle sorry its just a meme
23:07 sbi angie is immortal
23:08 VictoriaZ welp there goes $25k of ffs down the drain
23:08 *** Hannah quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:08 Trynity ???
23:08 sbi ffs can't fix crazy, it was wasted money from the start even if it did help her looks
23:09 Trynity tru
23:10 *** loosethernetcord quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:13 *** MissFox joined #mtfg
23:13 +++ raawr has given voice to MissFox
23:14 *** poisonousfeline joined #mtfg
23:14 +++ raawr has given voice to poisonousfeline
23:16 eloelodie like, people blaming spiegel aren't getting it, she was going in to fix her brains, which everyone was telling her for a year before she had it
23:20 sbi well i guess i have to ban you for bullying in the irc
23:21 VictoriaZ it was zukowski
23:21 VictoriaZ I was gonna go with Z til I saw angie :X
23:22 eloelodie oh right
23:23 eloelodie also lol
23:23 eloelodie okay let's make a guess
23:23 eloelodie is our anon angie or just someone trying to make drama without being angie
23:23 *** loosethernetcord joined #mtfg
23:23 +++ raawr has given voice to loosethernetcord
23:23 sbi Does it matter? If angie wanted to be a person instead of a high concept troll she wouldn't have dropped trip years ago.
23:24 VictoriaZ >>6567582
23:24 sbi at this point she's a style of trolling as much as she is a singular person
23:24 VictoriaZ angie's alive
23:25 sbi Of course. Her suicide date isn't until next month and she has admitted she just wants attention and to worry her mother
23:26 honeysuckle well someone in here is/was posting this stuff the other day they were listing specific nicks talking about angie in here
23:37 eloelodie I don't think I've looked at /adv/ more than once desu
Spicy drama for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzcEG_JoVuo
Aaaaaaalcohol!
It hides my horrible disphoria and how afraid I am of socialising because I'm a disgusting piece of shit!
>>6569387
you dont know that!
>>6569399
I didn't know leri goes in the irc
>>6569385
Oh, I heard that our brains form female but the body fucks up and doesn't produce enough estrogen and thus makes us boys.
Sad to know that no matter what was gonna happen, I'd be a guy ;~;
>>6569007
You won't necessarily be outed unless you're trying. Lots of butch women get called sir all the time. Hell, I'm a teeny tiny Ayyden and I get called sir sometimes, I'm sure you can butch it up enough to stay boymode. If you need tips or tricks come to ftmg, we're all salty and people will give you shit but we can probably help.
>>6569402
I do
I stared hrt at 16, had ffs, srs, good voice and still don't pass
I keep dreaming of my ex :( also I have the house to myself next weekend party at my house
>>6569410
Isn't your sex determined upon conception? I had the impression that sperm carries either an X or a Y chromosome.
Could be entirely wrong, but if that's the case there wasn't ever any odds to be born a cis girl.
Unless you count a different sperm winning, I don't know.
>>6569401
You aren't disgusting :/
>>6569423
would've rather rolled wood elf tbqh
A kid just asked if I was a boy or a girl in work just now
>>6569420
what should i bring? chips, beer, other?
>>6569423
sucks desu but it's something we gotta deal with, better than being a downy at least
>>6569427
fucking female sperm
lazy things were fast enough
>>6569437
So what did you tell him?
>>6569437
Did you rip a new one into that shitlord?
>>6569129
If you pass you pass. Tall girls are hot as fuck anyways
>>6569437
Did you call it a shitlord and told it to fuck off?
>>6569416
you just gotta learn to be happy with yourself
>>6569423
>>6569390
it's weird
both my brother and I need glasses but neither of my parents ever needed glasses, unless they were lying and just tried to hide their crappy vision their whole lives.
I wouldn't put it past then for trying some shit like that. they lie about a lot of stuff.
my brother might be angry closet gay too
we're also both shorter than our relatives
and our dad
he's same height as my mom and I'm slightly taller
I just have to wonder wtf my mom did to create this coincidence
and the best part is, when I tried explaining to her that transness is caused by a hormone imbalance in the womb she lost her shit and said THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY WOMB I'M A GREAT MOTHER
like c'mon mom you were smoking weren't you just admit it
>>6569427
Modern science has at minimum 20, possibly 25 to 30 genes that negotiate what the target sex is. The thing is even outside influences cna change the target sex, and it can change during gestation. This is how we get gays/lesbians, bisexuals, MtFs, FtMs, and non-binaries. There was a pretty good article in Nature on sex determination.
>>6569454
That's something hons or delusional people say
>>6569454
>you just gotta learn to be happy with yourself
>just gotta learn
>just
._.
>>6569460
You'll be happier soon mummy <3
>>6569456
i think it was irresponsible for my mom to have have had a kid at 40 but whatever
it kind of makes me mad that she knew there was a chance that i would come out retarded and yet she still tried to have me
>>6569458
Even cis people have to come to grips with who they are versus who they wish to be.
>>6569460
JUST
>>6569466
Let them live in delusion.
I'm a realist and refuse to live in delusion
>>6569464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EpreukySEQ
>>6569460
>>6569474
b-but Sirona, she is my mummy ;~;
>>6569457
>Because women have only X chromosomes, all of their eggs have only X chromosomes. Men on the other hand have an X and a Y. So, each of their sperm carries one of the 2 sex chromosomes, which sex chromosome is in the sperm that fertilizes the egg dictates the baby's sex.
I don't doubt that there can be influences that get in the way, but the biological sex is determined right away accord to the prevalent science.
I guess I'll look up the article though.
>>6569470
this.
how many cells do I have in my body? 30 trillion? arent all of them XY? I have a hard time deluding myself into thinking I am a real grill with this tebeha
>>6569478
more like
>religious nutjiobs
i told her i think that you should abort a child if you know it'll come out significantly disabled because they'll never contribute to society
her response was that disabled people contributed to society by teaching us empathy
>>6569485
Mummy, you are a real girl <3
*hugs lots*
>>6569485
we need a final solution for this XY menace
>>6569485
You don't have to delude yourself, just accept that you have a birth defect/mental illness, whatever you wanna call it, and learn to live with that.
>>6569492
I'll just be over here, studying genetics and trying to figure this out...
>>6569484
in most cases yes, the chromosomes are in line with the sex. but biology being biology there are tons of exceptions and middle grounds. XY females exist as an example. the sex is really determined by which sex hormone is more dominant during pregnancy.
>>6569489
that's really disgusting of her to say
there are disabled people who do contribute, there are just more obstacles for them to do so
>>6569492
no.
cismen are literally the best.
>>6569497
yeah, but knowing that I am a mutilated mentally ill man causes dysphoria and makes me extremely sad.
>XY females exist as an example. the sex is really determined by which sex hormone is more dominant during pregnancy.
dont you need AIS to be XY ''female''
my boymode sucks. i cant really hide my bobs anymore ;;
whoops wrong reference
>>6569505
>XY females exist as an example. the sex is really determined by which sex hormone is more dominant during pregnancy.
dont you need AIS to be XY ''female''
>>6569505
>knowing that I am a mutilated mentally ill man
Working on it...
Something something retroviral modifaction something something...
>>6569505
nono just the chromosomes :)
>>6569485
Chimerism is way more common then being intersex and no one actually runs tests for it, part of your body could be XX
>>6569505
>that sentence about mutilation and stuff
oh .___. I'm kinda depressed now
>>6569510
>>6569505
>>6569501
GOD DAMN IT
I am not even high, whats going on
>>6569515
thanks <3
that cheered me up a bit
I laugh at my gf who thinks I pass and that only her opinion should matter
>>6569504
it depends how severe the disability is
my mom is a speech pathologist and i used to go with her to the group homes she did therapy at when i was sick as a kid
these people can't function outside of these homes and you can tell they're sad because they have this instinctual want for autonomy and freedom but can never have it
>>6569519
You know in theory you could modify a virus to infect a persons cells with the correct chromasomes...
And if you did that with an artificially grown womb...
Just saying.
>>6569510
>AIS
automatic identification system? idk i wasn't saying we are XY females (well we kind of are if you think about male and female more in hormonal context) but only that they exist.
>>6569519
I wanna cuddle you ;~;
>>6569526
but it wouldn't change anything if it would be done post pregnancy because the sex organs are already developed?
>>6569525
Hiya nimmy
>>6569536
So you end up as a futa instead of a girl.
>>6569538
Hi Chara <3
>>6569536
Stem grow a womb, infest with modvirus, wait for it to clear, implant.
There's other kinks to work out, but that's the gist.
>>6569538
hi chara :)
our house got destroyed
>>6569527
to have XY chromosomes and come out as female youd need AIS, which is androgen insensivity syndrom. basically meaning you re genetically male, and have gonads and stuff, but they dont descend. you still have T, but it has no effect on your body. afaik indistinguishable from real girls until puberty (cause nobody checks for chromosomes for no reason), often causes problems after though
>>6569530
pic related
>>6569545
<3
:D
sorry for my weird autistic tendencies ;~;
>>6569526
yeah, it probably wont happen before I am dead though, cause nobody actually cares about trannies. And even if it did, with my history and mental state I should probably not be allowed children anyway. also I need ovaries way more than I need a womb
>>6569554
Boop a doop a doop IDGAF IF I HAVE TO BREAK THE FUCKING GENEVA CONVENTION TO DO IT I WILL FUCKING MAKE US ALL CIS.
>>6569543
oh, that's what you meant. sorry the artifical womb really confused me for some reason. that would be awesome.
>>6569545
didn't know the acronym. the only difference at puberty is that they don't start with puberty on their own. they are considered girls and it's just one of many examples that biology and sex consists on a spectrum and that simply saying XX=female and XY=male isn't sufficiently representing reality.
>>6569559
You do understand that you will be completely eradicating a genre of porn? Think of the consequences.
>>6569560
>that simply saying XX=female and XY=male isn't sufficiently representing reality.
it is tho, everything else is intersex or trans.
isis has taken over the west and has rounded up all people they see as degenerate
you're up next on the chop block, in full view of the masses
last words?
>>6569575
CETERUM CENSEO CARTHAGINEM ESSE DELENDAM!!!
>>6569570
But so many of you work in porn to begin with!
>>6569575
Lol dunecoons
>>6569508
You still look like a man
>>6569578
I SHALL BE IMMORTAL IN HISTORY. YOU THINK THAT I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PORN?
>>6569582
Calm down with the autism
>>6569583
Calm down yourself. I was only having a laugh.
>>6569575
"The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest."
>>6569582
No I mean where are you gonna find tranny geneticists when so many are camwhoring? They would be working on eliminating their only source of income, wouldn't they?
Daily reminder that 90% of you are hons
>>6569587
they'd chop you about halfway through that desu
>>6569575
Spero nos familiares mansuros
>>6569478
>http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943
Yeah, that's the article.
>>6569484
You wish. Sorry, nature isn't so simple. I have both XX and XY cell lines. What is my sex, gender, and orientation?
>>6569485
Actually a little over half of the cells in your body have no sex. They are bacteria. Furthermore, you can't get rid of them, or you will die. They are required for you to extract energy from food. You are really a colony creature.
>>6569501
>sex is really determined by which sex hormone is more dominant during pregnancy.
Pretty much...
>>6569515
That's my fate. I have both XX and XY cell lines. I found out about it because I have 2 blood types.
>>6569575
yawn
>>6569588
Probably because there's a good industry for genetics, as well as the fact that most of us are making that money for surgery, and finally the fact that that industry will still exist while people earn up for the new form of surgery.
>>6569591
Fine, I would say what's in that dril tweet I posted. Like, all of it, not just the part in quotations.
Mtfg meetup 20 years from now
>>6569575
at least i don't have to do it myself, so thanks i guess.
>>6569603
more accurate
>>6569603
nah, at least the one from the left is from /fit/.
>>6569599
>What is my sex, gender, and orientation?
Male, loser, fuckup?
>>6569603
Nahhh, I'll be killing myself at 40.
>>6569599
>Sorry, nature isn't so simple. I have both XX and XY cell lines. What is my sex, gender, and orientation?
It's not, but people categorize the things which are a majority, standard males and females.
I don't understand what you mean by cell lines, but whatever it is it's an exception that happened due to an error.
>You wish.
Why?
>>6569615
Pretty silly to plan for so far away, you're barely half way there.
>>6569620
Depends how technology progresses.
i used to daydream that there was a machine that sound magically turn you into a woman
in elementary school you got to switch genders for a day and see if you wanted to be the opposite gender
>>6569615
same m8
Good morning Mtfg~!
>>6569630
early signs that in retrospect are pretty damn obvious... then "oh fuck I'm trans" at 21 years old :/
anybody else read that book about a kid that kissed his elbow and thought he was turning into a girl?
I tried to kiss my elbow a lot in elementary school :(
>>6569644
Morning faggot.
:)
>>6569630
>tfw wanted to be a robot when I grew up
>>6569658
How are you?
>>6569630
Same
>>6569667
Kinda sleepy, and hungering for pizza ;-;
Have we lost any of /mtfg/ through suicide, out of curiosity?
I've been looking into religion and shit recently, just wondering if any of you know which of the major religions are accepting of trans people?
I mean there was a case on the news of a white Brit who transitioned and converted to Islam, but you could clearly see all the other people were uncomfortable and didn't want to talk to or be near a tran.
>>6569675
Pizza is good, I have a Papa Murphys pizza in the fridge for later rn myself. I am just super lazy feeling though today I've been so busy like every day this week >< That's weird for me cause I'm used to being a shutin
>>6569682
Islam is the only religion with it in any sort of scripture
Buddhism is probably the most accepting, but it's going to say that being trans is taking you away from being your true self which isn't reliant on your gender
>>6569683
papa murphy's is so great, i love the massive stuffed pizzas you can get there and if im feeling really fat the smores dessert ones too.
>>6569603
No, most of /mtfg/ transitioned way to early for that.
>>6569613
Actually, intersexual, female, bisexual.
>>6569619
>I don't understand what you mean by cell lines
It means I was formed from two eggs that were fertilized and joined very early on in gestation. I am my own twin. I'm mostly homogeneous in that the cells are fairly well mixed. Some chimeras are less well mixed and you can see where cell lines change by patchiness on their skin. For me it was most evident before I turned gray. I had varying mixtures of hair pigments producing the full range of normal human hair colors from both red and brown pigments.
>>6569701
I mainly go in for the 5$ favs just because it's better than a frozen pizza for about the same price
Also lucky enough that my new house is like 3 minutes away from one just 2 blocks, the village area does usually get crowded so I need to remember not to run there at 5pm on a friday like yesterday
God I'm happy I moved, almost everything is better here
>>6569700
only accepting in that you go 100%
>>6569680
Not that im aware.
>>6569682
Maybe some cult.
I think hindu is accepting?
>>6569683
My boyfriend gave me his credit card to buy some, but i don't want to answer the door ;-; so im not buying it. fml
>>6569703
It can happen from blood transfusions or during pregnancy as well, but some cases are absorbed siblings yes
i wish i could go on an adventure like odysseus and fight giants and meet goddesses and shit
>>6569703
Wait. Is a mix of red and black hair really tied to that?
>>6569709
Its just answering the door, it's not like you are even having to go outside! You need to not shut yourself in that's no good!
>>6569709
>but i don't want to answer the door ;-; so im not buying it. fml
What, it's like a 30s interaction, you faggot.
what controversial laws would you pass if you were given complete control of the united states
I'm kind of glad that transwoman who was taking pictures in the dressing room was diagnosed with ego-dystonic sexual orientation (changing sexual orientation based on sexuality because you can't handle that you're bi/gay)
It proves that only pure transbians can be guaranteed to be trutrains
>>6569720
Ban all religions, including veganism. Make postnatal abortion legal. Free guns for everyone.
>>6569714
>>6569717
I really hate it ;-;
i cant do it
>>6569725
>postnatal
wtf?
>>6569709
there was one girl waaaay back at the very start of these threads but the archives don't go back that far.
tl;dr she got bullied for being vaguely passing by hons and shit happens
>>6569720
deport muslims and jews
round up all the blacks and give them their own state.. probably Georgia
return to only land-owners being allowed to vote
ban handguns and lift most rifle restrictions.
>>6569720
every citizen must be provided with living-wage mincome partially clawed back by income, 100mbit up/down internet with no data cap, and a 32gb flash drive for meme storage
>>6569712
Not in everyone, aging causes black hair to turn red and then they turns grey.
>>6569720
If your kid gains access to your gun and kills someone, you're charged with negligent manslaughter
Let any illegal immigrant apply for citizenship, give them 5 years to maintain steady work history and no criminal background, give them citizenship, make them pay into social security to save it.
>>6569726
You got this, why are you stressing so much about it? Just nervous?
>>6569730
Oh, and I forget. Mandatory rabbit eating for everyone on Fridays.
>>6569738
YES I HATE IT
>>6569682
http://www.transchristians.org/
Christianity is accepting
You will deal with some bigot Christian who don't know what they're talking about; but that's circumvented by finding a pro-lgbt denomination
>>6569737
why should illegal immigrants be given citizenship?
>>6569723
nah, everyone knows transbians only transition because they want to fuck lesbians.
>>6569739
>I'm not a fag
Says someone who can't answer the door.
>>6569736
I always had red hair , though...
>>6569720
force catholizism, outlaw porn, outlaw all other religions, reintroduce capital punishment, reduce college costs, take control of hollywood, declare all extremists terrorists, invade saudi arabia, throw turkey out of the nato, introduce mandatory conscription for males.
>>6569720
Deport blacks to africa
>>6569749
I don't. I'm not into sex. However, lesbians want to have sex with me. I hadn't planned that would be an issue...
>>6569745
Yeah well the Orthodox don't want you.
>>6569756
but I like porn :c
>>6569760
i was just kidding/memeing.
>>6569757
naa see, you gotta keep them in the US in their own isolated experimental state to show the people how pathetically primitive they truly are if left to their own devices.
>>6569756
>outlaw porn
do you want to start off with a huge suicidal wave throughout the nation?
>>6569750
Alright so only a little bit of a fag.
>>6569734
>anyone living in an apartment can't vote
but why
>>6569774
>>6569774
>Not doing so is a terrible idea for trans girls.
would exclude the mentally ill, as which untreated transgirls would count until theyve completed their transition.
would not be mandatory for females, but theyd have to pay high taxes if they are still childless by 35.
>>6569769
>>6569763
prostitution would be legal, just get a hooker.
( ・ิω・ิ)
>>6569710
around 1-350 of fraternal twins have >10% crossover with the cell line of their sibling. Most people have some (<5%) of their mom's cell line in them.
>>6569712
Lots of red pigment makes black hair, but it is different from lots of brown pigment that also makes black hair.
>>6569729
It's one of the possibilities. Rare, yes, impossible, no.
>>6569729
The model in the pic may have vitiligo. I'm not sure. The pic shows the patchiness that can happen to chimeras. The other human chimera I met is also homogeneous. She recognized me because of my hair. My grandparents all had different hair colors.
>>6569761
So? There are plenty of other more sensible denominations anyhow
>>6569788
>prostitution would be legal, just get a hooker.
then you would have to force hookers to be indiscriminatory (this is a word, right?) or the neckbeards would still kill themselves.
>>6569804
>indiscriminatory
I dont think thats how it works , hookers are usually happy as long as theyre paid
>or the neckbeards would still kill themselves.
natural selection
>>6569813
>natural selection
kek