Why don't you own a gun /LGBT/? Armed gays don't

>>6376029
because my nanny state gave me the right to retreat :))))))

>>6376029
Not allowed where I live.

>>6376029
I live in a liberal hellhole with no right to bear arms.

I own 10 and will likely own a hundred more when I finally snap and live in a compound surrounded by provisions, ammunition, and 110 of my closest friends.

also sig braces are for poorfags who can't afford the tax stamp

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>>6376149
i just abhor the NFA

>>6376042
>Not allowed where I live.

Europe?

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Because i don't live in America. Nobody ever gets shot here.

>>6376168
Yes. And laws are still lax in comparison, most Neighbour countries don't even allow pepper spray or knives. I'm glad I'm allowed to at least carry those.

>>6376178
not even allowed body armor here shits retarded

Had a hardcore conservative government take them all off us in the 90s,

then the yanks gave him a medal,

Guns are illegal for concealed carry in this country, knives however are a grey area.

So I'm getting a Karambit and getting properly trained with it. Won't do shit against Jihadi Juraheet wielding an AK-47 but hey it's better than nothing.

>>6376149
>tax stamps
>in your desert compound surrounded by husbands
May as well live a little before getting drone'd.

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It was a gun free zone, no guns allowed. [unless you're the terrorist]

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>>6376377
nice bird

>>6376029
Go back to /brg/

Just kidding.

Get some self protection, /lgbt/

/k/ just wants to help

>>6376149
>not just buying an AR pistol and adding a telescoping stock to it

It's like you don't even love freedom. Fuck the law.

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>>6376436

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anyone interested in not being deaded by arabs should either look up pink pistols and or grow a thick skin and head over to /k/ and seriously consider not making yourselves victims

>>6376876
overthrow my government first

>>6376883
You could do it yourselves if you hadn't handed your guns over

>>6376029
Because I live in the UK

I live in Britcuckistan where most firearms are illegal and those that aren't are extremely hard to get.

On the plus side though, a lack of gun culture means that almost everyone can't tell the difference between an airsoft weapon and the real thing.
Aim an airsoft at someone here and they'll probably still shit themselves and run.

it cost A LOT of money in my country to own an handgun and you are required to have a strong reason( example: own a jewelry).
Same goes for long knives. Small knives can cost something like 30 € which is annoying but i am tihnking about purchasing one.

Pepper spray is too gay for me, but i could think about it even if it sounds like it has to be extremely limited in strenght in my country.

Funny story: when i was 17 i bought a cheap butterfly knife ( actually illegal in my country) in Romania for like 5€, smuggled it in and hid it in a box of old markers ( my mother is extremely paranoid about alcohol and weapons). Years later i had to cross daily a very infamous zone of the city to get to my gym so i decided to carry the knife. The box was no longer there and when i asked my mother she said that she gifted it to the church to make the kids of the church group play.
I like to think one 12 year old boy in my town had an extra christmas that year.

>>6377264
That has nothing to do with 'gun culture'. From the front airsoft guns look extremely similar to the real gun they are modelled on.

Or from any distance at all.

>>6376193
what... why? what is the rationale for that?

>>6376029
i'm a convicted felon. can't own one.

>>6377583
It makes it too hard for the cops to murder you

To all the fags in this thread saying
>I'm not allowed to own guns
You guys lead the charge in overturning shit laws. I'm not a faggot, but I support your rights to exist and do all the shit everyone else can. If gay marriage must exist in all locales, your right to self defense and constitutional enshrined stuff does too.

>>6376141
>the dream

>>6376637
I N N A W O O D S
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>>6377272
You're doing the Lord's work, anon

>>6376637
i call this move the MOLLE-wop.

it's like mollywop but with... you get it.

>>6377614

What were you convicted of?

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How many of y'all have a slick looking gun in hot pink? I tried to find a picture of a black and pink FN FNX but it seems nobody has done that.

>>6376029
Because I don't need one. I live in a civilized country where civilian ownership of firearms is extremely restricted so no nutters get them.

>>6379328
Sure helped the French.

>tfw live in a third world country where guns can only be owned by cops and army members basically

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>>6376029

damn right

http://www.pinkpistols.org/about-the-pink-pistols/

http://www.armslist.com/

>>6376174
Obviously you don't live in France, or Norway.

>>6376029
I do :)
>Does anyone know if bill gore will give you a CCW for being blgt?

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>>6379328
or the belgians >>6379328

>>6379382
rib in beas

>>6377672
yeah only they can have something that is purely defensive

>>6376174
>Nobody ever gets shot here.
Where do you live? I'm sure plenty of people get shot there.

>>6376377
florida is a shall issue state
>a gun free zone sign doens't trump ur right to carry, unless its a school

>>6379361
You can't prevent all disasters, this is an American delusion. At least we don't have shootings where I am from as a monthly feature on the local news. Neanderthal.

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>>6379237
I really like the purple compact Sig pistol
>its 4x as pretty irl

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>>6379237

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>>6379405
>tfw live in brazil

So you're from /k/? How many of you guys are gey?
I'd post there and all but I don't have much milsurp besides pic related.

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>>6379436

>>6376029
Not easily accessible here. Though I really want to get/build the strongest tazer I can just get my hands on.

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>>6379444
Not the guy you asked but
i post in k and lgbt all the time

>>6376029
I do own a gun, but it just so happens that the people who hate me have a population and economic advantage to arm themselves and their hordes of haters much more effectively than I can arm myself or those like me.

Hence laws which protect the rights of minorities.

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>>6379405
Nice Rhodesian FAL, authentic or repro?

>>6379421
>At least we don't have shootings where I am from as a monthly feature on the local news
Most places in the US don't either, it's like 50 countries glued together, each is different.

Violence of all kinds have declined in the US ever since the 90's and keeps declining ever more, yet there's more guns and gun owners in the US than ever, there's more "military" style weapons in the US than ever, there's more people carrying guns than ever.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d4/d6/21/d4d621ba13e2542b6b6400c12f287ef2.jpg
Familiarize yourself with some statistics, frogman.
Not an American by the way, I'm just not delusional enough to think relying on the state for your own safety is logical or reasonable.

>>6379429
Those grip panels are fly as fuck, would be cool to see something similar on a full sized, nickel plated gun, like maybe a 1911 or S&W 5906

>>6376150
This is why we need mental evaluations before letting people buy guns, so crazy traps (or a try hard hon) can't own guns.

>>6379456
>that pic

Gay. Lots of gay. Seems like the perfect place.
I often post in /gaygen/ as well. I think i'll visit /k/ soon ,perhaps with this trip.

>>6379468
You don't need to rely on the state for protection, but guns don't protect, they kill.

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>>6379444
>How many of you guys are gey?
There are a LOT of homos on /k/.
Lots of straight up homosexuals, but also a lot of trap lovers.

It annoys the shit out of the stormcucks, so that's wonderful.

>>6379463
So your relying on laws aimed to protect minorities to protect you because what guns are too expensive?
guns are cheap dude.
>you can get old handguns as cheap as $50, old revolvers work great.
>you can get used ruger 9mm's for like $200 those are great pistols for that price.
Take some personal responsibility for your safety.
The blacks had to arm themselves to get civil rights.
Why shouldn't the gays arm themselves?!

>>6379483
Read the link I posted, it proves you 100% wrong.

>roughly 30 000 killed by guns each year
>about 20 000 of those are suicides
>about 9 000 of those are gang violence
>somewhere around 1 000 000 cases of successful Defensive Gun Use each year, where people fend off rapists, muggers and murderers

Guns are great for the US, over 90% of the time they're used to defend lives and property, unquestionably a good thing.

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>>6376029
/pol here

we stand by you degenerates...get yourselves armed and all hail based milo

>>6379468
>Those grip panels are fly as fuck, would be cool to see something similar on a full sized, nickel plated gun, like maybe a 1911 or S&W 5906
the colorized the slide very well also, it doesnt really come through on the pic but its an amazing looking pistol.
>if i could get a ccw (Fuck bill gore) i'd get that pistol immediately.
Purple is gangster as fuck

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>>6379493
This.
Refer to this image.

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>>6379487
>that pic

Damn, dude. I should definitely pay a visit there.
Too bad I don't have much milsurp, although this Rhodesian urban reproduction is quite nice.

>>6379501
I read it, it assumes guns were needed to prevent these occurences. Say that they were not, then you only have a list of 10.000 people that are killed with gunfire of which 9k were gangs.

It's pretty clear why this is not a good source for argument.

>>6379501
>>6379532
I think this guy was a bit off
when they did the statistic in 2011 it was
33k gun deahts /year
of that 2/3 were suicide so its 12k gun homicides/year
of that 2/3 were "justifiable homicide" such as self defense
that leaves us with about 4,000 gun murders in the USA each year.

>>6379463
>economic advantage to arm themselves and their hordes of haters much more effectively than I can arm myself or those like me.
Or they just get proactive.
Its not hard to arm a lot of people, you can order 20 mosin nagants in a crate for like $1000

>>6379532
>I read it, it assumes guns were needed to prevent these occurences
Sure works though.

>then you only have a list of 10.000 people that are killed with gunfire of which 9k were gangs
Which is really not a lot at all in a nation of 300 000 000 people, more people drink or eat themselves to death.

Gangbangers are gonna gangbang, on average, a person getting shot in the US by someone else has an arrest record somewhere around 11, as does the guy who shot him, he can't own a gun legally and didn't buy it at a store or pass a background check.
Do you think making the illegal things they do even more illegal is going to make them not do it?

>>6379551
>of that 2/3 were "justifiable homicide" such as self defense
Justifiable Homicide isn't actually all that common, 99% of the time presenting a firearm against a mugger or burglar will make them flee or surrender (because getting shot really sucks).

>>6379506

Thank you.

>>6379565
Mosin Nagants aren't actually quite as cheap anymore, you're looking at near $200 for a 91/30 these days.

On the flip side, a WASR-10/63 or a M&P-15 Sport is affordable and good.

>>6379574
1 person shot is one too many we as a species can do better.

I'm not against gun ownership by the way, but there has to be a middle ground between "musket" and "gattling gun" that's reasonable and doesn't allow freaks to unleash hell on a night club or a school.

The real porblem facing the Americans is a social one.

>>6379493
>So your relying on laws aimed to protect minorities to protect you because what guns are too expensive?
No. I am one single person and a member of a tiny minority. If extremists ganged up into an angry lynch mob they would outnumber me and all of those like be 100 to 1 and they would all be equally if not more armed than I am with more resources and more grassroots support.

This is why the concept of human rights was invented.

>Take some personal responsibility for your safety.
I literally just said I am armed.

>The blacks had to arm themselves to get civil rights.
No they had to arm themselves to protect against those who ignored their civil rights. Those who ignored those civil rights were tried in court and imprisoned in places not dominated by white supremacy that actually respected the rule of law.

>Why shouldn't the gays arm themselves?!
I never said they shouldn't. I merely disagree with you that weaponry is a substitute for government protection from angry armed mobs of people that outnumber those like me and civil rights advocacy to defend our rights and fight for our equality legally.

People like you are the types of guys who think they can rambo a horde of armed and professionally trained people determined to kill them with nary but a modified ar-15 and maybe a few old m67s they picked up from their buddy at a local surplus store.

I'm American, LGBT, and armed... but I'm not a fucking moron with delusions of grandeur from Call of Duty.

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>>6379468
just a dsa sa58 21"

>>6379469
im pretty sure ill pass since i have some security shit for my job

>>6379493
this dont let yourself be a victim

>>6379506
good work

>>6379606
one person bashed is too many then fagget

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I was thinking of getting this.
/k/ seems to think Ruger is a decent brand.

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>>6379606
>1 person shot is one too many we as a species can do better
That's a hell of a naive and optimistic way to look at things, Omar sure as fuck didn't think your way.

>>6379608
>m67
Where do you live where you can purchase live grenades at a surplus store?
Or AR-15 rifles at a surplus store, unless they're selling new ones

I don't think anyone says you'll be able to fend off anything with a gun, the case is that a gun makes it much harder for someone to kill you.

>>6379631
>>6379578
You're welcome, I love good value purchases, lots of old 'obsolete' things can be had for little money because it isn't the newest hottest thing.

If you're looking for a cheap rifle, again, the WASR-10/63 is good (if it's a new one, make sure it has the scope mount on the left side of the receiver, the old ones were garbage, and you can tell an old one from the lack of the mount).
If you're an AR person, Smith & Wesson's M&P-15 is good, as is Ruger's AR-556

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>>6379655
Pretty good, what are your experiences with guns?

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>>6379631
>this dont let yourself be a victim
i've been at the mercy of others, never again. Anyone who has ever been bullied should realize this, if you don't want someone else to impose their fucked up will on you then you need to get serious about self defense.

>>6379655
i'v shot these, its the $200 ruger i was refering to. Ruger is indeed an excellent brand that sells very cheap pistols.

>>6379709
forgot to mention pic is my ruger MKII, its a .22 but amazingly accurate
I cannot overstate how much i like this pistol. it was like $300 used

>>6379692
I have no experience. I need something to practice with.
>>6379709
whats the $200 ruger? i don't see that on the site

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post your EDC

/lgbt/ is the new /r9k/
/lgbt/ is the new /pol/
/lgbt/ is the new /k/

>>6379780
the biscum have arrived, brother

>>6379758
i think its called Ruger SR9
>i mean its $200 if u get it on the used market because i know someone trying to sell me his for $200
I encourage everyone to buy used guns
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr9/models.html

Glock 9mm are good options
Cz 75 also great

>>6379826
Oh. I didn't know what you meant.

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>>6379758
>>6379758
>I have no experience. I need something to practice with.
Ruger MKII or MKIII $300-450 Excellent 22 pistol to learn to shoot on. 22's are small but deadly.
Ruger 10/22 excellent 22 rifle to learn to shoot on $350

SKS very reliable rifle for every purpose, learning, hunting, defense, defeating america, target shooting $350 ($175 in canada)

I would also suggest you look into revolvers.
they can be even cheaper than pistol and never jam.
Any S&W or Colt or Ruger revolver is going to function perfectly aftet that its just an issue of personal preference as to what caliber (truth is they all work so bigger is just bigger not better) size of the barrel and what not

This is a S&W 686 its a very popular model, i shoot a very similar S&W 620, it shoots .38 special or .357 magun both rounds have plenty of UMPH

this is kind of a large gun to carry around tho you might want to pick a smaller one :P

>>6379838
yea you dont really need to buy new guns, they are way more expensive and since guns last like 100 years if ur good to them getting a used one is fine

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>>6379758
Any revolver or pistol in .22LR is good for practice.

Or you could use a .38 Special revolver too, that's really easy to shoot.
Remember earpro and safety rules.

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>>6376174
Estonia?
>tfw you'll never live in 95% white country

Canadian gays also don't get bashed.

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>>6379885
>22's are small but deadly
They're not that amazing out of a handgun barrel, I wouldn't rely on that for defense if I could get something bigger, I personally wouldn't go with anything smaller than .380ACP or .38 Special for self-defense.

>>6379894
There isn't anything bad with buying new guns, sometimes an old gun won't offer you something you want.

But yeah, old and used guns can be of tremendous value.

>>6379931
Seems someone would disagree on you with that: >>6371069

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>>6379968

>>6379931
they will when we import our brand new 250000 peaceful muslims and they start having religious emergencies

>>6379968
when the FBI did its big important study they basically said all calibers do the shame shit and trauma surgeons cant tell what calibers are ever used (i.e. they all wound so similar) I think .22's will be plenty especially since a 22 revolver can have like 12 shots
.380 acp does seem like a good caliber to me, i'd like to get a derringer loaded with 2 of those.
>I honestly believe that is enough for anything really
one of those bond arms one, but the only one legal for cali is ugly if i remember right

>>6379682
>Where do you live where you can purchase live grenades at a surplus store?
It doesn't matter where you live if you have enough connections, which is why I said "your buddy at the surplus store" instead of at the surplus store.

>Or AR-15 rifles at a surplus store, unless they're selling new ones
When did I even mention AR-15s... or gun control? I'm not anti-gun in the least. I'm anti-call of duty rambo idiot with no sense of what it means to be a tiny minority in a country where everyone who disagrees with your existence is just as armed and dangerous as you are.

>I don't think anyone says you'll be able to fend off anything with a gun, the case is that a gun makes it much harder for someone to kill you.
My argument was that it's stupid to substitute guns and threats of violence for civil rights advocacy when you're a hated minority outnumbered 100 to 1 by people with more economic resources, weapons, and reinforcements than you'll ever have as a collective with others like you.

I wanna die why would I stop then lmao

why are some gun calibers referred to by their inch caliber and others by their metric caliber?

>>6376029
I do tho?

>>6380054
Some calibers were originally popular in Europe. Some in America. Some, like the 5.56, is a NATO round. In America the .223 round, which is practically the same size as the 5.56, is only differentiated by its lower pressures and velocities. The .223 is used domestically in hunting and self-defense long arms in the U.S. while the 5.56 is used in modern service rifles like the M16, M4, G36, or others you'd see in the current war on terror.

>>6380054
Because some were named by the old system and some by the new system. People can use whichever they feel like when they develop a cartridge.

.40 S&W is a reduced power 10mm Auto for example so its not just an old/new calibre thing either.

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>>6380008
>they basically said all calibers do the shame shit
All SERVICE calibers, you know, what police and military commonly carries, with defensive hollowpoint loadings, all 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP and .357Sig pistols, they all penetrate as deep and about as wide.

.22LR penetrates very shallowly out of a pistol barrel, and can easily be stopped by ribs or a blocking arm (stopping against the bone), it's not that people can't be killed with a .22LR pistol, it's that they're less capable than others, they can not penetrate to the FBI recommended depth.

>>6380034
>it's stupid to substitute guns and threats of violence for civil rights advocacy when you're a hated minority outnumbered 100 to 1 by people with more economic resources, weapons, and reinforcements than you'll ever have as a collective with others like you
I don't think anyone would argue otherwise.

>It doesn't matter where you live if you have enough connections
Don't get yourself v&, the ATF is known for shooting people's dogs.

>>6380054
Metric is typically from Europe and other places, caliber is often from North America, caliber is a hundredth of an inch, so .50 caliber is half an inch in diameter (this would equate to 12.7mm).

So .380ACP is often known as 9mm Kurtz or Corto (short) in some European countries, .32ACP is sometimes known as 7.65mm Browning (usually more so back in the day though).

That stuff has all largely floated together these days, but usually, the American definitions and etymology seems to be what people go by, for instance, nobody ever calls .45ACP by it's metric measurement, 11.43x23mm, because it's big damn mouthful of syllables.

When designing a new caliber, people seem to go more for a recognizable name, to differentiate them, 7.62x35mm doesn't quite sound so catchy, so it got the name .300BLK (Blackout), which is faster to type up and say, and also highlights how it's based off of the .223 Remington (5.56x45mm)

>>6380158
You should mention though, most guns in the US now are made to handle 5.56 pressures so people can use whichever ammunition they want.

Not all though, important to check.

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>>6380141
What kind?

>>>6380158
You see 5.56x45mm just as often as regular .223 in the US, either as commercial loadings or as M855 military surplus (which isn't that amazing, but it's cheap).

>>6380165
See if you can get it expunged?
Otherwise, cap & ball revolvers aren't controlled as firearms and can be owned by convicts and other prohibited persons (though they will be regarded as firearms if used in the commission of a crime).

When loaded, something like a Ruger Old Army would be like any other six shot single-action revolver, just slower to reload.
With a good modern blackpowder substitute, and a good choice of .44 caliber hollowpoint bullets, it'd be roughly between a .44 Special and .44 Magnum in terms of power I'd say.
A bit big to carry concealed though.

>>6380181
If a gun is .223 Only, the manufacturer will typically state that.

>>6380176
>I don't think anyone would argue otherwise.
But yet people in this thread have. They cast gun ownership as a panacea against government protection of one's inalienable rights in a country chock full of anti-LGBT sentiment and angry mobs of Christian and right-wing extremists currently stockpiling munitions and perfecting their slipknots.

>Don't get yourself v&, the ATF is known for shooting people's dogs.
>REMEMBER WACO AND RUBY RIIIIIIDGE
Ok dude. I'm well aware that LEOs can be corrupt and shitty. Do you know who else can be corrupt and shitty? Violent bigots who want to kill me and hang me from a tree. And they don't even answer to a system of government which I have rights within, vote in and can have them thrown in jail by.

>>6380181
Fair point.

>>6376426
Questions
1. How many vapes were there
2. Where the fuck did somebody get a Barrett .50
3. Not a question but I hope everyone made fun of the loli fag

>>6376426
>tacticool
>the .jpg

>>6380232
Ah shit, you're right, Illinois regards them as firearms.

>>6380249
That's genuinely really fucked up, why haven't someone taken the state to court on that?
They can't deny someone their rights based on who they are as a person

>>6380248
>Where the fuck did somebody get a Barrett .50
Presumably they bought it, Mr. Barrett is a very cool person.

>>6380273
Gender dysphoria is still considered a mental illness in the DSM-V to allow trans people to receive medical care, even though they have an endocrine issue and not a mental one.

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>>6380054
its just who made the cartridge known or designed it

>>6380248
i saw three
money and being frugal
rude

>>6380273
hallwayguy is a nice duder no memes one of the best people ive met off /k/

>>6380311
>>6380286
That's so disgusting.
Wonder if tumblr could be tricked into fighting for this?

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Those of you who go out to bars, night clubs, or concerts alot need to invest in a stripper gun. You can keep it in your handbag or purse type device. Be careful out there

This is coming from a straight man worried about american (or european) gay bois. Whether or not you guys blame muslims for what happened, I guarantee that the more of them we let in, the more this will happen. Not even trying to be one of those people, that is just the truth. The least we can do is prepare for it

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>>6380342
>Seecamp pistol
I almost never see those things, also don't they shoot a special snowflake caliber?

I think a better choice for most people would be something like a Ruger LCP

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the Walther CCP is the perfect size for a first gun.

>>6380467
too small and mean for a first time shooter.

>>6380342
that and vote trump to keep tge motherfuckers in sandland.
i dont want to live in israel.

>>6376141
I LOVE YOU

>>6380467
Any kind of gun that fits into the palm of your hand is fine. Then just learn how to mag dump into a shitskin

>>6380467
that seems like it would be too small to get comfortable with.

>>6380553
>/lgbt/ being size queen about the size of guns
Kek

If we are talking about self defense here as long as it can be comfortably concealed and it shoots bullets ur good m8

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>>6380553
Well, if you're mindful of recoil, one of the Beretta Cheetah pistols in .380ACP would be pretty easy shoot, compact, and have decent power.

The 84 has a 13+1 capacity.
They're a bit pricey though.

>>6380565
i've been wanting to do shooting just for fun

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>>6376029

I'm told us guys with little girly arms and hands should get 22s. Something about control and recoil. I assume its true, I dont see why anyone would fib about it.

>>6380624
Sure, its like a little pop gun. Only thing is that it doesnt have much stopping power unless you aim for headshots like the chink that shot up virginia tech

>>6380624
22s are children's toys

get a .410 if you want a soft gun
I have a thing for shotguns desu

>>6380624
the Walther CCP was made for people without oodles of upper body strength. It has some hoodoo built in that reduces recoil, and makes the slide much easier to operate.

>>6380624
Most of that is people assumptions based on gender perceptions or body perceptions there are 13 year old girls who shoot competition with full size 45 caliber pistols.

It is generally true that a smaller caliber weapon will be easier to control but it really all comes down to practice and range time. Get enough of both and you will git gud with anything.

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>>6380624
Again, Beretta 84 would be good if you're recoil sensitive, with something like Lehigh XTP ammunition loaded, it should perform very well, and recoil should be soft too.

Browning Black Label if you have small hands.

>>6380664
It's just gas-delayed blowback, that goes back as early as the end of WW2 at the least. Though Steyr were the first to make a good pistol using it (shame how that went).

The CCP is probably pretty good though,

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Any of you own any scary black rifles?

>>6380322
Tumblr isn't any more lock-step than here. There are blogs about everything on there up to and including nazis and firearms. It's getting a bit tired that, in 2016, "tumblr" is still the go-to insult for undesirables. It shows me just how much 4chan culture has stagnated with the influx of edgy alt-right teenagers around 2008 who looked at this as their super sekrit anonymoose club.

>>6379388
>finger on the trigger
I hope that fag dies from aids desu

>>6377210
I wasn't even born when we did

>>6379469
>mental evaluations
What about all the people that already have guns?
Are you saying someone shouldn't be able to buy a gun to protect you, and your family/friends, because they can't pass a 'mental evaluation'

What even is that?

>>6376426
this picture represents everything that is wrong in the western world and wannabe edgy internet culture since 2008.

>>6379469
>we need more gun laws
>even though most mass shootings happen in 'gun free zones'
Would you rather someone insane enough to stop a shooter killing everyone in the room with you, or someone sane enough to run?

You don't have a gun, do you?
Ill show you how to shoot one..

>>6379483
>they kill
that's how they protect..

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>>6380970
beretta 84 is dank just make sure to get double stack 380 so its not shit

>>6380988
a lot actually

>>6381132
you too

>>6381079
Reddit transfers are common now too,and they'll literally have guides on how to act like a 4chan poster. They post the most stereotypical shit posts. It's silly, but it's true.

They're just kids trying to fit in.

>>6380008
Bigger the bullet, bigger the hole, the faster they will bleed out..

>>6380249
says who?
https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Faq.aspx

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>>6381079
>There are blogs about everything on there up to and including nazis and firearms
I know, I get a lot of my firearms and porn needs there, but there's a very certain segment on there that are exactly what /pol/ complains about left and right when disagreed with, and there's honestly a bigger culture of bitter hatred on tumblr than there is on 4chan, it's hard to explain, I seldom feel the same camraderie on tumblr as I do on 4chan, even with mutuals there, I feel this air of fakeness, it's a different place in many ways.
Also the staff are the worst ever, people who think 4chan have bad mods are lucky they aren't on tumblr, jesus they are so bad.

>It shows me just how much 4chan culture has stagnated with the influx of edgy alt-right teenagers around 2008 who looked at this as their super sekrit anonymoose club
I do get pretty tired of the salt-right.

>>6381198
84 is the double-stack one (the 81 is the double-stack one in .32ACP, holds 12+1).

Nice PTR, or is it a CETME?

>>6381221
By that logic .50GI would outperform .223 when .50GI in actuality is a retarded round.

>>6381221
That's not how ballistics work anon.
Permanent wound cavity is all that matters.

>>6380596
Come to NOLA, I'll take ya shooting..

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>>6381296
just a unironically shitty ptr

>>6380988
No my rifle has a woodstock like an ustanding citizen

>>6380657
>taurus judge

>>6381341
whirty dore is that you?

>>6381296
>By that logic
I'm comparing .22 to large calipers desu..

>>6380664
>>6380740
>>6380970
>>6380645
>>6380657

Thank you for the advice.

I have a 12g Mossberg pump in my truck. A 20g Benelli semiauto and a .22 marlin by my front door, and a .22 Winchester in the bedroom?

I'm seriously considering getting a pair of Walther ccp for the ol lady and I for everyday carry.. Whatcha guys think?

>>6381418
I didn't mean to put a ? after the first sentence..

Its way past beer:30 here in burgerland

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>>6381341
>PTR
>shitty
They're pretty good quality from what I hear, at a reasonable price too.

>>6381342
How about now?

>>6381418
>Walther ccp
Eeeehhhhhh

Ultimately it comes down to your preference, If your wife is willing to learn to shoot properly, go for it otherwise I would prioritize simplicity of MoA. I feel like I should be getting paid for shilling glock this hard, but they make one in the size you want, and you just point it and pull the trigger.

Not necessarily a great gun for an enthusiast (I actually don't even own one) but for self defense they're basically the cat's pajama's.

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>>6381381
yeah ur a fagit

>>6381433
fite me irl

Im going to buy one now, I live in CA I thought it was pretty liberal here but you really cant be too careful nowadays

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>>6381418
>replying to self
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/browse/semiautomatic-pistols/_/N-1114851/Ns-MIN_SALE_PRICE?WTz_stype=GNU

I take that back, I might check out something much cheaper..

>>6381455
nice dubs m8

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Here's a starter (budget)buy guide for you cherry bois

>>6376029
Well if you include my whole family I think we have a pretty large collection actually, but in Canada they're required to be kept in a locked gun safe so it's not like we're walking around with the things.
Can't remember what exactly we have. Mostly shotguns and rifles like the SKS I think. I believe we only have one pistol, a glock 3rd generation I think?
While many people where I live do own guns I don't think anyone really relies them on them for protection like what the general attitude about guns is in the US, it's mostly just for hunting and recreational shooting.

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>>6381543
Nice.

I found the best way to get a price on a gun in the USA is to goto http://www.gunbroker.com/ and search for the lowest price under buy it now..

>>6381561
Its good to hear you have them.
If ever the us has a national happening, you will be prepared to defend your house.

>>6381585
I'm in Canada, not the US. That's what I mean though, like the general attitude here is that guns are not for personal protection. I have very rarely met any gun owners here that have that mindset, but it seems to be very common down in the US.

>>6381609
I know, You're in Canada.. I'm talking about an nationwide 'happening' spilling over into the far north, eh..

>>6381575
Listen please faggotsan, if you want to buy a hand granade, just buy a hand granade. At least those will work when you need them to.

Buy one of the following brands:
S&W
Beretta
Glock

There is a reason these are popular old as shit brands. It's because they are dependable and they work.

Do not buy online at first and do not go for the cheapest nigger trash gun you can.

Go to a shop with at least $450 to spend on a pistol. Do not be afraid to look at used.

Pick them up, dry fire them, get a feel for them and make your purchase.

Do NOT pick up a revolver for your first. Reloading under pressure is hard enough as is without having to worry about chambering rounds.

Learn all the parts, how it functions, its quirks. How to clean and care for it.

Fire it at least once a month and at least 3 mags worth each session. Practice.

Take a course on gun safety and get your CC permit.

>>6376029
because I'll just kill myself with it

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>>6381543
I see a fair bunch of questionable things there, but it's a passable pointer, the shotgun section is the best.

I have never seen a reliable 100rd magazine in .22LR, not what I'd use for HD.

>>6381710
>Hi-Point
>hand grenade
Nigger, you can feed a Hi-Point whatever crazy horse +P+ tier load you want, they're a brick of steel and zamak, the amount of abuse they can take is unreal for an economy weapon, there's a reason they're the No. 1 poorfag gun, because they're basically the only pistol you can find below $200 which is at all good.

Their carbines are genuinely great value for the money and there's now 20rd magazines available for them which work.

>>6381751
Get a shotgun with only beanbag shells, not fitting to kill yourself with, but hits like a bat in full swing.

>>6381825
>Get a shotgun with only beanbag shells, not fitting to kill yourself with, but hits like a bat in full swing.
I'd imagine a beanbag shot straight into the roof of your mouth might be enough to kill you

>>6381835
Or turn you into a vegetable or just make you paralyzed
There's people who have taken five buckshot shells to the head to kill themselves (must have been agonizing way to go, and agonizing to clean up after), god knows what happens, I sure as fuck wouldn't want to tempt that fate if I wanted to end it.

>>6381221
velocity has much more to do with the lethality of a round than the size.
>and before you start some rounds do more damage at slower speeds (like rifle rounds)

>>6381455
If ur in san diego go to SoCal guns or Direct action solution
>both are good shops, DAS had a really beautiful purple sig.

>>6381751
This is actually a very valid reason not to own a gun.
Please don't kill yourself /lgbt/ its so selfish, people are so sad when a loved one kills himself dont do that to everyone

>>6381751
Yeah I like the idea of owning a gun and learning to shoot but I also don't really think I should get one since I'd probably end up with it in my mouth.

>>6380249
Tranny here, got a foid with no problem. I'm only on hormones tho. (My card has my boypic on it, lol, which makes doing gun stuff awkward.)

>>6376876
>>6376637
This is really embarrassing. I'm cringing so hard right now. Why didn't they put you down?

>>6383684
Because most people on /k/ don't give a fuck.

>>6382390

Good thing I have no loved ones!

>tfw not even pepperspray is allowed in Belgium
help

>>6384441
I love you and want you to be happy

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>>6384441
W-well, I like you.
No homo though, I swear!

>>6384616
Yeah, I know that feel, self-defense is really fucking difficult where I live too, can't carry a gun, can't carry a knife, can't carry pepper spray, can't carry a tazer or stungun, I can get charged with preparation for assault if they find something and think I'm keeping it as a weapon in event of a break-in.

Sweden truly is the cuck peninsula of Europe and I have to get out of here.

>desecrating your gun with pink
Fucking disgusting.
I live in the gang violence stricken Ireland, gunz are only allowed for show pretty much. I'd kill fpr the gun in the OP and it makes me so fucking mad they shat it up with pink.

>>6384914
Aww, poor swedebro D:

>>6384914
you should walk around with a 6ft bow staff
>TFW tactical tree's are also illegal

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Post more /k/ bois

>>6385274
this is hot AF
>is he wearing a cup?

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>>6384950
Chill, potatonigger, people can do whatever they want with their property.

>>6385274
Not bad, what make of AK?

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>mfw Glock 17/19 is objectively the best American made 9mm on the market
>mfw they're all ugly as fuck

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>>6376029
But I do own guns

>>6387378
Ooo, is that that weird bullpup version of an AR-15?

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>>6387393
It's a norinco t97.

Chambered in 5.56x45, I bought it because I'm in Canada and the AR-15 is considered restricted, but this is not.

It's super light and well balanced, I've fired it one handed for shits 'n giggles

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>>6387308
>American made
Only partially.

If you don't like the aesthetics/feel of it, consider these
>Smith & Wesson M&P
>Ruger American Pistol
>Steyr M9A1
>Springfield XDM
>FN FNS

They're all plastic, striker fired, 9mm pistols, featuring trigger safeties and 17rd magazines, like the Glock

>>6387436
Oh yeah, I was thinking of the KH 2002.

Wrong Battlefield gun.

>tfw you're in favor of outlawing firearms but think they look cool af

>>6387436
I hear there's a few quirks with the Norinco, like the trigger, and how the gun doesn't like LAR-15 magazines (limiting your capacity).

How's you feel it hold up?

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>>6387477
Try one out, might change your attitude.

>>6387488
Not an amerlidad, tho ofc there are ranges and all that. I don't think how liking them would change my opinion on civil ownership of firearms. Maybe I'd be a huge fan but that doesn't justify getting thousands of people killed a year in gun related violence.

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Shame Ruger don't make these anymore.

Very well balanced, as the bolt doesn't hold all the weight it needs for blowback in itself, rather, there's a sliding weight under the barrel which the bolt tows as it recoils, giving it the mass it needs for safe blowback operation.

>>6387555
If it makes you feel any better, most Americans who get shot are criminals, getting shot by other criminals, doing criminal things.
I think a different approach to the War On Drugs would be a much better way to look at reducing gun violence in the US.

>>6387584
seems like a pos.
>i mean its a fucking 40... if it were a 9mm or something decent

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>>6387555
Better than getting millions of people killed like banning civilian gun ownership did in Germany, Prussia, Turkey, and India. Also, gun violence is a terrible indicator due to defensive gun use, police gun use, and suicides are added variables. If you really want to get to the nitty gritty then you have to compare it to violent crimes or homicide.

>>6387477
I know that feel. I'm for restricting them into oblivion, but fuck if I don't admire the hell out of the engineering that goes into them.

'Specially stuff like the AN-94

>>6387593
They made it in 9mm as well, quality is pretty good, as Ruger is.

Honestly, while .40 isn't much of a difference to matter in a pistol with regular loads, from a carbine barrel, they wouldn't be too shoddy.

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>>6387584
the mag price was ridiculous because pistol mags are proprietary and gay

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>>6387478
Actually mine works great with LAR-15 mags. The trigger is a little funny, but that's expected with a bulpup. Overall I love it.

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>>6381543
I have a mossberg 500 AND a remington 870
my weedman got a mosin nagant but I have yet to go shoot it wif him, i really want to :3

>>6379532

>assume guns weren't necessary in instances where they were used for protection and suddenly these stats are meaningless

Why would you do that? There's no compelling argument you've given to warrant that speculation. And before you start, please don't trouble yourself with an anecdote or a 'thought experiment.'

>>6376029
Guns are illegal in my country

>forever bashed

>>6376029
>Armed gays don't get bashed.
Uh sure they do.

Do you expect people to walk around everywhere with a loaded weapon on constant alert for potential threats?

If somebody decided to murder you they're probably going to do it when you're not suspecting it.

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>tfw NYC
I just want my CCW

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>>6390466
They're just regular Ruger pistol mags, one of the selling points was that if you already had a Ruger pistol with magazines, you didn't really need to buy new magazines. They did however stop making it due to poor sales.

Gonna be honest though, would love to see something similar done using Glock magazines (like, shipping with a 17rd or 20rd mag standard, for a lower profile, and 10rd mags for ban states).

Then maybe make it locked breech and have the bolt impact a buffer in the rear of the receiver, like on a B&T, if it can be done cheap enough, just so that the recoil is nothing.

Pistol Caliber Carbines are seriously underrated weapons, even disregarding semi-auto variants of subguns.

>>6391836
Ah, so you can get a wedged pair of 10 rounders to behave in it?

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>>6391996
>Do you expect people to walk around everywhere with a loaded weapon on constant alert for potential threats?
What do you think conceal carry is?
Not that you need to be darting your eyes left and right all the time like you're Doomguy, but the idea is that if you have a gun on you and the will and skill to use it, it's a lot easier to get out of some situations unharmed. Nobody has ever said it's foolproof for anything.

Gaybashers look for easy targets, they don't want to get shot, they're just looking for an easy outlet for their irrational hatred and frustration, 99% of the time, flashing a gun at this kind of hick will make them freeze up, then do a 360 and moonwalk away (at which point you should probably notify law enforcement that there's aggressive people prowling around in the area, looking for trouble).

And yeah, it won't be as easy if someone has scoped you out and has made plans, but realistically, how often does that happen to anyone? We're basically looking at serial killer tier here. Bashers, as well as muggers and rapists, are pretty much opportunists, and you being able to fight back will radically even out the odds and make them reconsider you as a target.

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>>6391900
Nagants are nice, because they can be had for cheap (used to be even cheaper, you could find them for less than $90 sold out of barrels in the 80's), but take into consideration that they were made in the Soviet Union (for the most of it), under basically forced labor, and were after WW2 refurbished and put into storage (because they've got this hot new SKS and AK now, see), not always in the most graceful way.

First thing to consider, they were caked in Cosmoline, a rust preventing preservative, this allows the gun to be stored indefinitely without worrying about corrosion or other wear from the elements, but it also means that sometimes when you get a 91/30, it'll never have had it's cosmoline cleaned out, and you need to do this for best results, or the action will most likely be stiff to work.

Another thing is that some springs were replaced during refurbishment, a problem I see a lot is the cocking spring being a few coils too long, which is a greatly contributing factor to the action being difficult to work (many people will say you haven't cleaned your cosmoline out properly, but the spring is often the culprit in a sticky bolt on a clean gun), either take the spring out and clip it down one or two coils on your own, if you feel the confidence to do this, or order a replacement online.

Quality wise, they're basically Carcano tier, nothing amazing, but nothing bad either, they're rough, but they're also cheap and hard to break, and with a little bit of polish they'll be alright, even if it wouldn't be quite as nice as a Mauser or Enfield.

Also toke responsibly, don't hit the pipe too hard when shooting.

>>6391996
>Do you expect people to walk around everywhere with a loaded weapon on constant alert for potential threats?
Do you wear a seat belt constantly on alert for potential bomb threats? No. It's just a safety precaution and you have a leisurely drive to where you're going.
Guns aren't there to cause trouble for the average law-abiding citizen, they're just a precaution in case trouble does find them.

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So, if you were to make a vanity or art piece kind of gun, with a pride theme, how would you do it? Doesn't have to be practical, just something flashy.

I figure, something really basic like a bright nickel 1911, perhaps in .38 Super (because it's an underrated old round, at least for target shooting), with laminate wrap-around, finger-grooved wood grips in rainbow colors, very plain, yet it'd stand out just enough, I'd keep the slide and frame mostly plain, to give it a clean look.

>>6380248
2. Local shop was selling a BMG .50, which was tempting except I was about to by a motorcycle and the gun was $2800. The rounds were $4.50 a piece. I have a motorcycle now and ride the shit out of it, but I do wish I had the funds for that firearm.

>>6384950
This is American, you can get a firearm in any color or design.

I am strongly considering filing out the paperwork to apply for a CCW with my county.

But I do.

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>>6395324
what kind homeo

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http://kdvr.com/2016/06/14/gun-sales-surge-after-orlando-shooting/

>Pink Pistols more than doubled their membership
Huh.

>>6395324
A .50BMG is probably loads of fun, but a Barrett M82 isn't the most ideal for casual long range shooting, it has an MOA of like 3 or 4, it's intended as an anti-materiel rifle after all. Also it's very expensive.

I think the bolt-action and single-shot ones would most likely have a bit better results for longer distances, while being (potentially) a lot cheaper.
You could build one using an AR-15 lower receiver as a base, but I'd make sure to use a steel lower, just to be on the safe side.

>>6395361
Can't hurt, worst case, you carry a gun on you and it never gets used for anything.
Do you already have a gun?

>>6395361
do it :) you wont regret it

>>6376637
>>6376876
I'm not /k/. Can someone give me the back story on the cosplayer comando? Is it just for shits & giggles? "Imma guy in a cosplay dress shootin a gun XD" Or is it just an oddball tranny? Also is this supposed to be the namefag that posted these?

>>6376029
>scrawny manlet
>would probably have the gun immediately wrestled from me in a confrontation
>end up getting shot and killed by my own weapon

Without it, I at least have the hope of only receiving a severe beating.

>>6395537
When you have to shoot, shoot. No wonder you're a faggot

>>6395409
I would go gay for you desu senpai

You have cute feet, and have a great taste in bikes and guns.

>>6376178
I'm calling bullshit, why would you ban pepper spray and how could you ban knives?

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>>6395537
>end up getting shot and killed by my own weapon
That's actually extremely rare.

Presenting a gun will often change a person's mindset from "I can take this guy" to "Oh god he can kill me, let's not!", because you don't need to be big and strong to use a gun, hence why it's an equalizer, it doesn't matter if you're a petite bottom twink, a frail old grandma, or a big fat guy who's out of breath jogging down the driveway, the gun you have is a lot more dangerous to someone looking to get at you than your own body.

Even a little .38 snub can kill a man, so it doesn't have to be big and imposing to have it's intended effect, gunshots are very dangerous, most people will try to avoid getting shot at if they at all can, even if they really hate you or really wanted your money/boypussy.

>>6395656
Can confirm, in Sweden, pepper spray is a restricted weapon and you can't carry it as a civilian, and you're not allowed to carry a knife in public.

In many EU countries, basically anything which can enable you defending yourself is illegal to carry on your person, or sometimes even own.

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The house floor is currently (right now. C-span) trying desperately to take away our ability to defend ourselves.

Have some OC as to why this cannot be allowed to happen.

It's actually sorta refreshing seeing all the fellow legbutts who have guns for protection. It just always seems like the community is always presented as anti gun or to pansy to have them.

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>>6395492
yeah its me im just a homeo not a degenerate tranee

>>6395574
id go gae for me too

>>6395847
because most queers are degenerate libtards

>>6376876
Ayy, never expected to see you here. Was a little bummed to not see you at Midwest nuggetfest, hope I get the chance to 'mire your outfits and guns at some point.

>>6395714
They cant stop you from carrying a legnth of bamboo or a 6ft bow staff
>how the fuck can they make a tactical tree illegal

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>>6398059
Hickory one of the strongest woods in the world it's what Louisville sluggers are made from. You can get it in cane and walking stick form.

>>6398067
Walking sticks, the gentlemen's crudgle

I wonder why nobody there just shot omar.

No fucking way there wasn't a single person there besides omar with a gun.

>>6398090
Gunfree zone.
Until Omar came in I guess.

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>>6398090
It was a gun-free zone. Gays are usually law-abiding people.

There was a guard, I believe, a muslim, and 'he made way for 40+ people to escape'.

>>6398090
the gunman got into a gunfight with the police early into the attack, he shot the cop in the vest and the bullet must have shattered or ricocheted into the cops face

>>6398112
or smart enough to do research of hillary
>lgbt rights champion my ass

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>>6398112
>washington post

>>6398117
It was pretty fucking disgustingly shallow and cynical to see her roll out LGBT merch from her campaign after that Supreme Court Ruling, fucking hell, Hilldog, we all know you're not a friend of gays, stop pretending.

>>6398127

Ad hominem

>>6398117

Except they're doing this only after Trump fear-mongering.

Like the little sheep they are, ready for slaughter

>>6398133
so much this
>she's had activists posting on /lgbt/ for months and they never have shit to say when you point out that she isnt an ally of lgbt in the past.
>hurr durr but dont vote for trump or ur dumb

>>6376029
Because I don't want to fund the gun industry, I want tougher gun laws.

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>>6398138
>pointing out that the poll made by a regressive left company is biased is ad hominem

>>6397379
i want to pound ur bp so fucking bad hngggg
>tfw mods deleted my thread in /k/ saying so

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>>6398167
That's not very American of you.

>>6398167
You could just move to Mexico, I hear they have very strict gun laws and don't have any murder or anything.

Bonus: No white people and no one speaks English

>>6398167

Yes, because consolidating guns in the hands of criminals, law-enforcement, and the military is a perfectly logical reaction to 100 homosexuals being shot by a Muslim and quite possibly by the cops themselves during the final shootout.

>>6399600
>someone has a different opinion than me
>they should move to a different country

>>6399633

He was giving a suggestion, anon. You could also try Brazil, very strong gun control laws there.

>>6399633
His argument wasn't "well if you don't like it, leave", it was merely pointing at Mexico, showing that their strict gun control has done absolutely NOTHING to help them.

>>6395537
Highly unlikely unless you fumble the gun onto the ground and then try to run away screaming or something. Draw point and shoot.

Remember, reaction buys you more time than you think.

>>6383684
Because we don't actually hate gay people. We just want to be left alone.

>>6398167
Buy used. :^)

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>>6397648
probably going to this years

>>6398112
im voting trump thnx

>>6398141
queers are fickle

>>6398167
ur a fag

>>6398248
just post in /brg/ or /arg/

>>6401138
>tfw i'll never cuddle with you
>tfw you'll never teach me about weapons and shit
>tfw all of this even tho i might be your type according to an old post of yours (thx desustorage)
why even live

>>6401170
Can you imagine a range-date? Guy tries to adjust your stance, as he subtly tries to feel you up a little

>>6401305
fuggg
d-dont do this anon

>>6399633
>if Trump gets elected I'll move to [insert country, most likely Canada]

That seems pretty common among Trump haters. Yet no one complains about that.

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>>6398167
Then make your own gun.

>did he make a gun out of a shovel

Yes.

We dont need no islam nation
we dont need no thought control
no dark sharia in the classroom
false teacher leave them kids alone

HEY SATAN
LEAVE THEM KIDS ALONE

ALL IN ALL YOUR JUST
another brick in the wall


We dont no islam nation
we dont need no thought control
No muslim teachings in the classroom
False teachers leave those kids alone
Hey Satan!
Leave them kids alone!

ALL IN ALL THEY''RE JUST ANOTHER
ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL
We dont need no muslim headscarves
We dont need no sharia laws
No crucifying of the Christians
No breaking of Gods holy Laws
Hey Satan!!!
leave them saints alone!

ALL IN ALL THEY'RE JUST ANOTHER
ANOTHER BRICK INTHE WALL


WE DONT NEED NO ROMAN PONTIF
WE DONT NEED NO MAN OF SIN
NO ANTICHRISTIAN ROMAN IDOLS
WE STAND IN JESUS AND STAND TO WIN

HEY SATAN !,
LEAVE THEM SAINTS ALONE,

ALL IN ALL YOUR JUST ANOTHER
ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL

We dont need no corporate empire
Trading souls for papal gain
NO BLOODY CUP OF THE HARLOT CITY
STOP BLASPHEMING JESUS NAME
HEY SATAN
LEAVE THEM NAMES ALONE

ALL IN ALL YOUR JUST A
ANOTHER BRICK IN THE WALL


We dont need no stoning women
We don't need no islamic goal
No subjigation of our nation
Muslim leave our laws alone

Hey Satan
Leave our laws alone

All in all your just a
another brick in the wall

We dont need no antisemites
We dont need your book at all
No throwing homos off a rooftop
We need jesus we stand tall

Hey satan
Ya lies
do not fool at all!!

All in all they're the reason
For us building
THE WALL

>>6401426
cringe

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>>6401364
>Lena Dunham declares that if Trump wins, she will leave the country
>Trump replies that now he HAS to win
Don't always love him but damn if he can't banter.

It's interesting to see some LGBT people on tumblr arming themselves now.
Most of those aren't from the SJW/librul crowd though.

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>>6401426
God some people are cringy.

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>>6376029
But I do senpai.

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>>6376029
cant afford one

>>6404874
How much money do you have?

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>>6404874
Pic related can be had for less than $100 new, sometimes as low as $70 used, really simple single-shot turkey guns, available in all the regular sizes, 12-Gauge, the smaller 20-Gauge, and the tiny .410 Bore (though it's a little pricier).

None of them are usually very great, but they're impossible to break, so you don't really have to worry about what you shoot in them.
They're a bit lighter weight than a full sized pump, so recoil will be stronger, but a shot is a shot.

>AR-15
>WASR-10
>M1 Garand
>M1 Carbine
>10/22
>Benelli M4
>870
>G19
>VP9
>Colt SAA (.45)

This state is terrible and has a 10 gun limit so that's all I can legally own.

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>>6404874
Hi-Point C-9 can be had for around $140-150 new. It's probably the ugliest gun ever made but it is reliable.

>>6404895
barely enough to pay rent because its ridiculous near portland

my girlfriend has an sks and a revolver at her parents house, she needs to get those back because we only have a couple replicas here and I really want to see em

>>6404934
oh wow

thats not bad

I could save up for that

>>6404955
neat

ty

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http://kdvr.com/2016/06/14/gun-sales-surge-after-orlando-shooting/

>The Pink Pistols is a national gun club for gays and lesbians. It saw its membership soar from about 1,500 members on Saturday to 3,500 on Monday.

>Dozens of new chapters are springing up, including one Smith is creating in Colorado Springs. He said it’s something he feels compelled to do, even though he’s heterosexual.

>“I look at it as a disenfranchised minority that needs someone who’s willing to say I’m a resource who’s here and willing to help,” he said.

Feels good man.

>>6404975
I'd like to join but there's no active chapter in my state anymore.

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>>6404957
If you can save up more, a Stevens 320 or Mossberg Maverick 88 can be had for less than $200, a huge step up from a single-shot.

http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/mossberg-maverick-88-12-gauge-all-purpose-pump-action-shotgun?bvstate=pg:3/ct:q

http://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/savage-stevens-320-12-gauge-pump-action-shotgun

>>6404979
That might change with recent trends, if there was one before, then there's been interest, maybe even look at getting together with some friends and starting your own?

>>6404937
>Colt SAA
marry me pls

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>>6405091
Those aren't too hard to get really.
Hell, if all you want is a single-action, Ruger makes the New Vaquero line, available in .357 Mag for cheaper shooting, modern make single-actions all typically have transfer-bar mechanisms, so that they're safe to load all chambers on.

Much cheaper than paying money for Colt's branding.

>>6376029

Because statistically, I'm more likely to use it on myself or, unintentionally, someone I love.

>>6405363

>statistically

Statistics mean absolutely nothing when it comes to YOU, anon. Do YOU feel mentally prepared to use it on yourself, and do you think you are not responsible enough to learn proper gun handling and safety?

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>>6405363
Not true, that study has been debunked repeatedly.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d4/d6/21/d4d621ba13e2542b6b6400c12f287ef2.jpg

By far, guns are used more for self-defense than they are for suicide, or figure in accidents.

If you don't want a gun, fine, but don't think you're "safer" because you don't, it's about as much safer as not having a pool, you're a lot less likely to drown in your backyard without a pool, but how likely were you to drown in it anyway?

>>6401305
i've done a range date :) shit was so cash

>>6398138
Bullshit, Ive been "Anyone but hillary" since summer of 2015
>its not my fault my only other option is trump

>>6405440
Did you put your cartridge in his chamber?

>>6405400
Not the anon you're replying to; I would like to own a gun but I am still kind of hesitant because there are times in my past where if I had had access to one I think it is likely I would have killed myself. I don't really think there is anything I can do about it besides continue to try to improve my mood and outlook on life but I'm still worried that if I get to that low point again I would do something dumb.

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>>6405456
Lets just say he got a big "muzzle flash" from the big ol magnum round

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>>6405457
>there are times in my past where if I had had access to one I think it is likely I would have killed myself
Fair enough.

You know something that's fun and works as a gateway into getting a gun later on? An airgun, like a basic break-barrel rifle in .177 caliber you could pick up at WalMart, just plink at old cans in your yard (just remember to wash your hands after a shooting session, because, you know, lead).

Optionally you could also look at an old fashioned Daisy Red Ryder gun, if you like A Christmas Story, you can shoot more than once with those.

>>6405457
In the end you will have to make that call for yourself you know you best.

The major disagreement with that statistic was it was procured through bad research and is used to insinuate that people shouldn't be able to make that choice.

>>6405484
Just remember that if you're going to get a gun, you better get it before the election because if Hillary gets in your life may become significantly more difficult when it comes to exercising your second amendment rights.

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>>6405457
another option if you don't feel up to buying a weapon is learning a martial art it does wonders for self esteem and general badassery. Not quite as badass and a battle rifle but it ranks up there.

>>6405524
For the love of god, do you have to spur panic buying? I don't like a WASR being priced at $1000 dollars

>>6405554
How about all those people who bought $1500 ar-15s and 9 months later wanted to sell them and were told I'll give you $400 for it.

If I'm going to get a handgun I want to get one I will really like, and then all the ones I like are expensive, so I just keep putting it off.

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>>6405614
Yeah the really nice guns are pretty pricey but i look at it like this buy the cheaper gun as a placeholder till you can afford a nicer one. You can always sell it to a gun shop or pawnshop later for a bit of ammo money for your new fancy gun.

Other then that my only suggestion is a savings jar for change.

>>6405589
Making a shitty deal doesn't really entitle you to recuperate that money, sorry.
I guess just be smarter about it next time?

>>6405614
What do you figure is really nice? What kind of guns have you been looking at?

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>>6401305
ive done it its danke

>>6405657
Tbh I'm not too smart about guns! I get the most enjoyment shooting revolvers, so I would go for a middle form factor revolver with nice wood grips in something like rosewood...

Reloading spent brass seems like a fun hobby too.

I'm having some tranny surgery soon so I have as much money on standby as possible just in case lol, haven't picked out anything specific because I dunno what my budget is.

I'd do research, and also ask my uncle who takes me shooting. Any suggestions or favorites?

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>>6406160
In this day and age I suggest a semi-auto pistol, 9mm to be specific and a Glock variant to be even more specific. You can abuse the shit out of them and they keep running, plus 9mm is fairly cheap to shoot.
For rifles AK or AR both are great platforms AKs probably require a lot more research to not get a shit one but you will not be sorry if you get a good one.
You can get a BCM pre-built AR and not go wrong there, they are quality guns and great right out of the box.

Reloading is awesome, I recommend any shooter try it at least once, nothing like throwing on some Band of Brothers and loading 30-06 for the M1. For pistols you can get on sgammo or bulkammo and get Tula or Wolf cheap for all your 9mm needs and same for AK food.

>>6406235
Thanks sempai! I dunno if I will ever go deep enough to get a rifle, but maybe. I mostly like shooting my bows for big unwieldy shit, but maybe a rifle could be fun. My dad and brother have some type of assault rifle, I forgot the name, I need to try shooting with them some time, but they're surprisingly lazy about actually going shooting lol.

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>>6406160
>get the most enjoyment shooting revolvers, so I would go for a middle form factor revolver with nice wood grips in something like rosewood

You could probably find an old used Ruger Security Six in like the $400 range
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/564753831
Here's one in good condition starting at $465

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563989889
Here's a 4 inch stainless one, with some wear, otherwise good condition, only has a pair of rubber grips, but getting a rosewood one made (or if you find an existing one) down the line wouldn't be too hard or expensive.

Not necessarily saying you should bid on either of these two revolvers, but just showing an example that you can get a pretty decent .357 revolver used, for not an inordinate amount of money.
Fun thing with .357 Magnum revolvers is not only that .357 has some authority to it, but not so much power that it's hard to get used to (it's kind of the happy medium of revolver cartridges), but aside from just shooting soft loads of it, you can shoot cheaper and even lighter .38 Special cartridges, a wadcutter .38 load would have very little recoil in a full sized .357 revolver.

http://www.ruger.com/products/gp100/models.html

Otherwise you could look at a newly made Ruger, they're really hefty in their build so you can make some pretty hot loads for them and they'll take it.
The prices look a bit higher, but it does come with warranty, and rule of thumb with MSRP is that it's usually always listed as $100 higher than what you'd actually pay for it when buying it at a store (I don't really know why this is)

>Reloading spent brass seems like a fun hobby too
It absolutely can be, put on some nice music, maybe some radio show or podcast, while you trim and clean used brass, replace primers, etc, very relaxing, you can also experiment with custom loads, reloading can also be a very economic way of shooting.

There's various guides and videos on YouTube for things like these.

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>>6406258
>I dunno if I will ever go deep enough to get a rifle, but maybe
It's worth trying one out, maybe ask to try out your friends or family member's guns at a range trip to see if you can get a feel for how different guns are to shoot and handle.

You can get rifles in .357 Magnum chambering by the way, so in that way, you can buy and load ammo for just one caliber, you wouldn't have to buy a new one, if you already had a revolver.

Though to keep in mind, you can buy and make loadings which are meant to work better through a rifle than a handgun, like Hornady Leverevolution, terrible out of a handgun, but performs great out of a rifle.

At any rate, any common .357 FMJ round should perform great out of either a revolver or a rifle.

>>6406316
I hadn't considered used, that's a good idea. Is there any red flags to look out for when buying used?

>>6406353
That rifle looks nice and simple, I like it. Any idea what it is called?

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>>6406392
Marlin 1894C, magazine holds 9 rounds, so a fully loaded rifle would be 10 shots, not bad for .357 Magnum, especially given that the longer barrel gives them a little more oomph, while the recoil is very easy to handle.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/1894centerfire/1894c.asp
Marlin had been in kind of a rough patch for a long while, but a while ago, they finally replaced all their old shitty and worn out tooling (I'm not kidding when I say they'd alter their blueprints to make up for the increasingly sloppy tolerance and capability of their factory machinery, something they've thankfully stopped doing), so if it's a brand new Marlin, you can reasonably trust that the quality is ok (but don't be afraid to nag their customer service if something isn't acting/working as it should).

Basically, you push in cartridges in the loading gate on the receiver, then you move the lever forward and back to load a round.
Fire, work the lever, which cocks the hammer and throws out the empty casing as it opens, then picks up the next round from the magazine as it closes.

Lever-actions can be a bit rough on some people's knuckles, but you can get a leather piece to strap onto it so it isn't quite as rough (or wrap it in paracord). You can shoot them pretty fast with a little bit of practice (though make sure you've got the motion down, I've jabbed my finger on the trigger once while doing fast repeating, which can hurt a bit)

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>>6406374
Meet somewhere in public, like the parkinglot of a Denny's or McDonalds or whatever, talk online beforehand, ask to see pictures of the bore, etc.
You can also buy used in most gunshops, and some pawnshops have an FFL and will trade in firearms, look around in your city.

If the bore looks like a sewerpipe, avoid buying it (this is more of a risk with old military rifles than anything, but you never know). You check this by first making sure the rifle is unloaded, then use a light to inspect it (usually there's specialized borelights for this)

As long as the bore looks reasonably clear and not full of pitting or rust, it should be good.
Pic related, the first one is alright, the second one is a little questionable but its' probably just dirt, third bore is a horrorshow and you should avoid it.

>Is there any red flags to look out for when buying used?
I can't really think of anything dramatic, maybe decline to meet in person if he looks like the Unabomber or whatever, but you can deal with this stuff online without having to meet in person.

>>6405554
>panic buying

I am being honest. Clinton has already made statements about gun control. "No one needs an assault rifle" and other such bullshit.

Normally, this wouldn't matter, since she'd get BTFO by the Supreme Court. But Scalia is dead, and there will be more vacancies, which gives her license to stack the Supreme Court with judges that will reinterpret the Second Amendment.

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Oh shit, forgot something useful all you handgun shooters can use, first time shooters are bound to make basic errors like these, and you should correct them for best shooting results.