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Personal responsibility edition

▶ Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶ Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶ Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

>Personal Responsibility
>Personal Responsibility
>Personal Responsibility
>Bullets are the beauty of the blistering sky
>Bullets are the beauty and I don't know why


Previously on mtfg: >>6337943
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Post your trip harem
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>>6338955
SWG. monogamy mode engaged
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>>6338955
I wanna cuddle all the trips

not more than that though, they're all crazy af
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>thought I did really well that round
>she got twice the kills with half the deaths
p-ping tho

>>6338955
me
puru
that's all
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>>6338957
Star wars galaxies?
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good morning mtfg ~
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So since ffs failed and I don't want to live anymore. I plan on giving my money away but not sure who to give it to
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Well, other thread deleted.

It was a good edition too...
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>>6338964
Overwatch?
>>6338965
Straight White Guy.
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>>6338971
battlefront 2
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>>6338957
>>6338971
trip on SWG
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>>6338961
Crazy, that I am. Some days, I wonder how a total loon like me has achieved everything I have. Guess it does legitimately leave some hope for everyone's that's less fucked up than I am, though
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>>6338967
maybe you should save your money, spend it on your revisions you want and get SRS?
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>>6338967
Charity....
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>>6338966
What's good senpai
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>>6338972
*Kisses wrist*

I'M OUT, YOU CAN'T STOP ME!

Ciao everyone, I'll be back later.

(Sorry Puru. It's all for a joke)
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>>6338974
Idgi, lots of people like swg, why would it be samefagging? It's also pretty mean to misgender.
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>>6338975
You made a deal with a gypsy didn't you
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>>6338976
That will take many more years. I'm not waiting for that. This was a one-shot thing and I failed.

>>6338977
Fuck charity
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>>6338968
what tred?
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i want to be a girl t b h

>>6338967
me desu
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>>6338986
you haven't failed and you shouldn't kill yourself

>>6338989
girls enjoy ginger cakes, so I hear
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https://www.reddit.com/r/transpassing/comments/4mlgzy/be_honest_is_it_obvious_which_one_i_am/

Like how can you can not tell which one is trans?
Fucking hugboxers
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>>6338989
maybe stop detransing like a stupid idiot desu
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>>6338989
I'll put you in the hat

>>6338991
>didn't fail
Shannon pls
No hugbox
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>>6338983
>>6338983
>Idgi, lots of people like swg
Trip on SWG
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>>6338994
im actually smart

>>6338991
not as much as cis males

>>6338996
;) sent
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>>6338993
I didn't see it right away and I wouldn't noticed
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got finals in a few hours
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>6338984
I've done some pretty fucked up things but not of the deal with the devil kind. I'm appalled when I see /x/ toying with mind constructs, though. Been there, done that. And it wasn't pretty.
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>>6339000
for what? you're a fucking NEET
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>>6339000
No you don't
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>>6338993
>Is it obvious which one I am

Maybe Ive been on /lgbt/ too long but both of these just look like unfortunately ugly cis women to me kek
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>>6339001
take spread pus shots plz
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>>6338996
>>6338998
pls stop being shitlords for like one second

Angie, you look like any other woman our age.
fix what you're still upset about and learn how to apply makeup like every other woman has to.
http://imgur.com/gallery/ynkv8

slugu
if you want to be a girl and you're not dealing with the dysphoria then retransition and eat some frigging ginger cake because you're adorable.
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>>6339002
Kay lives a double life
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>>6339006
but shave first please
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>>6339008
Maybe you should try taking your own advice you fat shit
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>>6338955
flannel
me

>>6338964
I'm clueless and click on peoples heads from a safe distance tbdesu :B

>>6338979
are you wanna die
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>>6338999
Oh come on, the person on the right has big shoulders and a huge jaw

>>6339008
Not being a shitlord
Even with no makeup, they have soft features and I don't. Nice attempt though.
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>>6339012
learning how to makeup?
I'm trying to teach myself how to apply it better and contouring and the like
also I haven't detransitioned but I can't eat ginger cake because I need to lose weight
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>>6339002
>>6339004
Today cinches another degree but you people wouldn't believe it if I told you so whatever.
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>>6339017
You mean like tons of ugly cis women have?
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>>6339008
it's a possibitlity
I want to try therapy and so on

also t bh I hate those makeup comparison things. i always think girls look better without makeup

>>6339017
they're a lot softer than they were
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>>6339019
We don't believe you because you talk shit about everything and then get pissy when no one believes your fabricated tales.
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>>6339011
I was told not to shave or epilate it until all sutures were naturally gone, so that would have to wait.
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>>6339020
Yeah and ugly women are on the same level as trash
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>>6339019
Take a pic of ur diploma
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>>6339022
Slug, don't be a hugbox
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>>6339022
sluggu post recent pic
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>>6339019
The history one you don't even know the basics of or the physics one you're using a high school book for?
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>>6339025
On a scale from 1 to 10 how awful was it getting rid of your beenus
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>>6339030
Well I could have walked cap and gown but due to dysphoria I opted out so I am picking it up in a few weeks.

>>6339023
>because you talk shit about everything
true


>and then get pissy when no one believes your fabricated tales
most the shit I say actually goes down though so whatevs
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>>6339034
kek
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>>6339017
you do have soft features though, you legitimately look like any other 30 year old woman
how many times to I have to say that you make me dysphoric?
you're legitimately pretty especially when you smile.

if anything holds you back its your voice and that sounds like a normal nerd girl voice to me.
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>>6339041
gee wiz a book for non science majors can't be used at the college level?
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>>6339030
you're so tsundere to kayla its adorable
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>>6339032
>gets FFS for brow, jaw and nose
>b-but my features aren't any more feminine than they were
um ok if you say so angie
i didn't even say you looked good or anything

>>6339033
ok here
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>>6339045
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>>6339042
Check the timeline on Reddit.
I really don't
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>>6339047
did you fucking detransition? what the fuck you were looking so well
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>>6339038
1. Surprisingly clean and painless compared to what I thought it would be.
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>>6339008
Fantasy destroyer
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>>6339047
Why you do that to your pretty hair slug?
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>>6339045
MaddieXKayla is my OTP
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>>6339047
1. I didn't get my nose done
2. My jaw is still very square and masculine.

Also why did you cut your hair, faggot?
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>>6339047
Is your penis working again?
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>>6339017
The ones on left had a guy face too. At a glance I would have assumed they were two meh looking women
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>tfw no drug-fueld orgy w ur favourite trips

>>6339047
why detransition bro
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>>6339048
she could teach you how to do makeup and then you could both get your lesb on in your underwear

>>6339055
mine too
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>>6339047
looks like gay 16 year old male
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>>6339060
I didn't see her wife as manly when I first met them
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>>6339049
I don't go on reddit
I shouldn't even really be here but I'm doing some encoding for my sister and got bored so took 4chan out of the hosts file
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>tfw you play as hard as you possibly can and she still gets twice your score
PURU IS A GOD DAMNED KILLING MACHINE
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>>6339070
Your "girlfriend" looks like a man
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>>6339068
Check you fb then
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>>6339071
its kind of pathetic how many girls here get girlfriends who come from here long distance and pretend to be in any kind of meaningful relationship just because they cant get one in real life
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>>6339051
yeah
I barely look any different though? just lost some weight mainly
this is me like 5 months ago on HRT

>>6339054
>>6339057
my hair has been short for ages
it looks better on me
and angie even if its still masculine it's definitely less so

>>6339058
yese

>>6339063
Because if I can deal with being male then it's better in so many ways
transition is shit and i'll never be happy with trying to look female, same as most transwomen

>>6339065
true
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>>6339071
>>6339077
why the fuck are you so salty?
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>>6339078
What did you look like with long hair?
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>>6339078
I think you legitimately looked better with long hair someone posted a picture yesterday of you in an old tier list
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>>6339079
The salt us real senpai
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>>6339078
please be my bf
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Hello /mtfg/. How are you?

Do you believe in ayylmaos?
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>tfw lost over 1lbs water to night sweats last night.
>tfw I feel like I didn't sleep.
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>>6339078
how far did you get into your transition? how long on HRT? Did you get lazer, etc? Also how old are you? btw you are a cute
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>>6338967
Me!!!!!! I need FFS! :P pls
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>>6339078
you look female in this get back on it you idiot before you don't have a choice. (salty older transitioner from your future)
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>>6339089
None have visited but the truth is out there senpai
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Cyberpunk 2077 never
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>>6339095
Can we get more gothic robin and what does gothic robin do for fun
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>>6339077
I know, who the hell would get in a relationship started on /mtfg/
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>>6339091
I hate when that happens. Pretty often with my nightmares, unfortunately...
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>>6339078
>less masculine
It's still masculine and I get pegged as a guy all the time

>>6339089
Killing myself soon

>>6339095
You'll go in the hat
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>>6339077
You can't command love, you know. Distance doesn't mean a thing. If two are to end up living together, they will someday.
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>>6339083
like shit
>inb4 no that looks good
literally only from a forward angle breh

>>6339087
ok
please be in londomn?????

>>6339092
3 years HRT, some laser though i didn't really need it, and i'm 21

>>6339096
why would I not have a choice
my bone structure isn't going to get any more or less male
even if I go back on hormones it will only be to feel better, I don't care about "transitioning" any more.

>>6339105
Well I didn't say that you don't necessarily, I just said it looks more feminine than it did
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>>6339108
It was feminie, I really wouldn't pegged as a guy.
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>>6339108
You look amazing :0
>>6339098
How do you know know have visited?
>>6339105
Why?? :(
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>get in the gigantic tank thing
>wreck shit up
>she still got 3x the kills
HOW??????????????
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>>6339108
Passes until the Adam Apple and 5 o'clock shadow maybe tanning will help
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>>6339108
your getting me mad because you look like a god damn cis girl in this pic and your giving it up. Yes I'm projecting but I speak the truth. Can't you see you are just delusional?
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>>6339100
>Can we get more gothic robin
I wanna but I'm about to go to London for a gig, not going to risk looking like more of a queer than I do w/o effort in that scary place
soon! I need to do it more
oh but idk if you've seen this yet? vid . me / 0W2O

>What does gothic robin do for fun
fuck around posting hinty teasing posts on Facebook like pic related because fuck knows if I'm actually still in the closet to anyone at this point

>manage to have avoided mum noticing my tits having grown more so far
>eating breakfast this morn
>sister comes in
>"ha your tits are bigger than mine, mum, look! he's so obvs a tranny!"
>have to keep total "wtf" pokerface
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>>6339110
Because I'm a hon
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>>6339110
There would be more evidence unless you believe in the men in black
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>>6339115
gj,im glad you are finally doing it. but don't ask suicidal people for their money if you've been in their place. what r u even doing? -_-
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>>6339078
i fully agree with you. living as the sex you were born as is easier and if you feel like this will grant you more happiness than you were as a transgirl, go for it!
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>>6339116
Can I ask who you are, anon?
>>6339117
True. But I used to believe in the "ancient aliens" thing a lot
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>>6339115
Can't watch your video because I'm on my phone and data ran out for videos.
Your mother probably knows
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>>6339078
>>6339108
damn shame, would have killed for your hair

u done goofed
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>>6339113
>you pass flawlessly hon! ur just delusional xoxoxox
i'm aware of how I look, thanks. I can pass or look ok from certain angles etc. but I have some male features and I don't like how I look presenting feminine.

>>6339119
thank

>>6339126
get ur own hair nerd I don't want it
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>>6339122
The king of the hons
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>>6339122
We don't often credit our ancestors enough for being smart and clever
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>>6339128
your loss I guess. So you are totally off estrogen and blockers now?
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>>6339103
No memories of dreams.
I think I'm going to go back to sleep. I don't feel like I slept. Last night my legs twitched like crazy as I was going to sleep. I may need to up my dose.
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>>6339108
I worry that I too will transition and then de transition one day... Being trans is terrible and expensive. Also there is the whole threat of landing up homeless and excommunicated from your family which I worry about
>>6339130
I doubt it anon, post a pic
>>6339131
True but isn't it weird how for tens of thousands of years we were primitive hunter gatherers, and then all of a sudden we started building the huge sumerian temples and pyramids?

I get that agriculture had a large effect, but still
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>>6339133
Last night nightmare's would make for a decent sci-fi novella, but I never can get to write them down.
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>>6339135
http://m.imgur.com/a/qDnSr

I make potc look like a super model
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>>6339135
>I worry that I too will transition and then de transition one day... Being trans is terrible and expensive. Also there is the whole threat of landing up homeless and excommunicated from your family which I worry about
coward
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>>6339138
Wew, really kay-kay?
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>>6339128
so your issue is your brow and trachea?
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>>6339137
>angie of all fucking people making a whirlwind transition
this brussles my sprouts
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>>6339119
this is the biggest load of crap. you didn't have dysphoria from transitioning. you transitioned to to get rid of it. you god damn delusional trannies, you dun goofed hard. now you really get to be a hon because no one "lives" as in they actually feel alive and then dies peacefully if they don't transition. Your just going to have a mid life identity crisis when your 50 exactly like everyone over in susans that would will it away. Or waste your entire life caring about others expectations and then on your deathbed feel a despair that I can't even imagine. I'm sorry for you.
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>>6339135
Technological advancement and human curiosity senpai
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>>6339143
Why mad?
My timeline sucks brah
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>>6339140
Yeah really. If me of all people could bite the bullet (literally) and transition then fucking anyone can. Jesus of all the fucking whining about passing going on here is ludicrous. No one was as manly as I was before starting transition so I mean you all will fucking succeed at it if you stop the bitching.
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>>6339128
I'm really jealous of your brow desu. Are you happier now?
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>>6339135
Humanity has always changed through catastrophic socio-cultural and technological advances, not as a slow, continuous process. Humanity today would be incomprehensible to someone from the XIXth century. That's just a few generations and no predecessor aliens were involved.
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>>6339078
I want to cut my hair now!

Also, is anyone going to watch the like stream with Edie and Blair white and others? I want to, but it feels like it's going to be very "I'm trans and I hate trans people and women and minorities and I'm going to laugh at them"

Idk
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>>6339137
Angie?? You are literally cis woman tier.

Trust me I don't hugbox, but you really are looking pretty nowadays. I understand being suicidal but don't kill yourself because you really look great as well as look better than a lot prettier than lots of cis girls I know irl.
>>6339138
Being trans is really shit though, and expensive. That's just a fact unfortunately and I hate it.
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>see picture of robin in last thread
>she actually has potential

There's hope for us all.
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>>6339148
>you all will fucking succeed at it if you stop the bitching
Take your own advice kaykay. And for real so many of us were so much more manly than you
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>>6339151
Is there gonna be a stream with Edie and Blair white? When and where?
>>6339150
When you put it that way, yeah it makes sense
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>tfw talking to guy in my uni class for 2 days
>think he might be interested in me
>turns out he's just trying to sell me drugs

o-oh
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>>6339148
Uhm no one that's ever been on this board has ever held a candle to my masculinity

Are you full time? Post pictures in girls room mirror
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>>6339148
Really as in you threw multiple tantrums about not passing the past few days. I would think you would be understanding of other people's fears of transitioning.
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>>6339147
Mine was painful to look at when I started it. It gets better.
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>>6339147
>My timeline sucks brah
mines worse
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>>6339151
no thanks, I'd rather avoid a bunch of egotistical bitches who look down on others
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>>6339152
Also, sorry for bad grammar and spelling . I had 2 hours sleep last night and worked today
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>>6339151
I was going to troll the board but blaire does that enough with just posting her videos

>>6339152
>cis tier
>pretty
Did even see the last pic?

Mfw
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>>6339159
I think it's tomorrow? You'll have to ask her, it's a bunch of trannies talking issues doh
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>>6339164
use your newest photos at least
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>>6339151
>I want to cut my hair now!

iktf I've wanted to get a short pixie cut in forever

>tfw i will never look like this
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>>6339163
Mine didn't :)

>>6339164
Idk
Yiu should see all the people that hugboxed me on the Reddit thread
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>>6339173
i tossed all my dresses though and no makeup or I would make a better full body one
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>>6339151
>Gothic Edie
I want more of this
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>>6339179
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>tfw you realize kayla actually did make quite the transition and isn't even near done yet
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>write out a bunch of replies then accidentally press back and lose it
fUCKE

>>6339132
Yeah I came off like 4 months ago, then took 2 months of hot flash hell for my T to come back

>>6339135
I think maybe there are better ways and full transition should be kinda the last resort

>>6339137
angie did you ever try to get treatment for your self image issues

>>6339141
Yeah, my hairline is slightly high too, and slight nose ridge.

>>6339144
>transitioning and repression (into eventual transition) are the only two ways
ok m8

>>6339149
Why would you be jealous of it? it's male af
I was doing much better for the first few months but my dysphoria has come back thanks to testosterone, as expected. So not doing great atm but tryin to work through it.

>>6339151
>stream with Edie and Blair white and others
no offence to them but that sounds like a bad time lmao
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>>6339151
>"I'm trans and I hate trans people and women and minorities and I'm going to laugh at them"

That's exactly what it's going to be. I've never paid attention to insufferable activists (basically all of them no matter their opinion) and I'm not going to start now.
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>>6339177
Having to detransition in my 20s sucked hard, but I didn't have much of a choice. And when I started this new transition, I had no idea how much it would change my looks and life for the better. Starting at 35, I went in with really low expectations, to be honest.
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>>6339164
>monster

how can people like that stuff?
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>>6339164
You were a good looking guy
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>>6339171
Okay thank you, I will ask :O
>>6339169
Angie you pass, I promise you
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best friend from high school is transitioning now and im afraid he's going to make a prettier girl than me :(
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>>6339164
>didn't have a masculine jaw, didn't have a masculine nose, barely has a brow, round baby face, not freakishly tall, still has hair, doesn't have linebacker shoulders or prominent ribcage.
> bitches about herself everyday, takes it out on everyone and expects respect.
> OH KAYLA YOUR OUR INSPIRATION! YOUR SO BRAVE AND KIND!
> is that what you wanted?
> this bitch has more problems then gender dysphoria, for real.
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>>6339184
>implying I have self-image issues
>mfw

>>6339187
I wanted to start in my teens but I repressed so hard due to my step-father

>>6339191
>you pass
>mfw
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>>6339189
I dunno, I got paid to run their bike for a while but I wasn't on the race circuit, I was out in the desert doing free riding shots and big air tricks
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>>6339184
>Why would you be jealous of it?
Because it's better than mine. It's a big brow but It doesn't look especially male. Just outlier cis. Idk. Another reason I'm jealous is the lack of lines.

I really hope things get better for you, Whatever happens.
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>>6339176
Whoa who's the qt
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>>6339193
she*?
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>>6339193
So jenn did you see my hilariously bad timeline? >>6339137
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>>6339184
At what point should one consider transitioning, assuming it's a last resort?

Also, aren't you afraid of transitioning as a 60 year old man and being an actual hon?
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>>6339176
triggered
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>>6339190
for you
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>>6339180
Who is it than
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>>6339196
Well, I always was one of the girls growing up, so I passed without trying as a teen, more so because of voice and body language than looks, even though i didn't look much like a boy anyway. So, I never even had to really come out then. My family never knew I was taking makeshift HRT, though.
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>>6339184
>>transitioning and repression (into eventual transition) are the only two ways

no no no, your other options are not really ever living and feeling an unimaginable despair right before you die, don't leave that out.
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>>6339193
literally everyone here is prettier than me and always will be so I'm going to block 4chan on my hosts file again
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>>6339202

>calling someome who doesnt even live fulltime "she"

>>6339204
youre really cute stfu angie
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>>6339186
Basically the reason to listen to activists is to either get their talking points against you, or get their talking points that defend you so that you'll be better equipped when these arguments happen in real life. Most people don't come up with their own ideas, so being able to shut down "muh chromosomes" or something quickly is a good skill to have in your back pocket.
>>6339184
I mean streams like this are unmoderated debates, and moderated debates are hard to watch
>>6339179
That's Blair white... And edies going to be blonde soon... She should do cheerleader Edie :3
>>6339176
She's literally perf
>>6339166
Edie is pretty pro trans, one of her dreams is to run a program that helps early transitioners with essential passing stuff like laser that often isn't covered
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>>6339212
That's blaire white

>>6339213
Lucky
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>>6339210
I'm not messing with you. You were actually handsome
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>>6339205
You don't want to keep it as a last ditch measure, really. I was thoroughly discouraged by my early transition failure and in no state to restart before, I guess, but still waiting until 35 wasn't the brightest thing I ever did.
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>>6339217
>Edie is pretty pro trans, one of her dreams is to run a program that helps early transitioners with essential passing stuff like laser that often isn't covered
its good that she has you here to be her cheerleader
now she has free time fuck guys by not spending as much time here
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>>6339218
the most special of snowflakes. worse than hons IMO
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>>6339216
I expect male pronouns from now on then, I literally corrected my new doc and said I was a man in front of a dozen people yesterday
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>be me applying to jobs
>girl mode
>get a callback from an interview
>voice accidentally slips
>"uh is this anon?"

Fuck I want to die. I hope they bought it
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>>6339195
>this bitch has more problems then gender dysphoria, for real.
i think we all do f a m

>>6339196
not even saying you look good or bad or whatever, but it's really really obvious to everyone that you have some issues

>>6339198
thank u

>>6339205
When you have tried other ways to deal with it, such as therapy if you have concurrent mental issues or if it's possible that your dysphoria is a result of trauma, stuff like that. I don't mean repress for 50 years and see if it works lol.

I'm not afraid of that either, because if I'm unable to deal with the dysphoria another way then i'll soon go back on hormones. Repression def isn't a good option.

>>6339214
if you say so senpai
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>>6339216
its not like your in public and outing them.
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>>6339226
yeah but you're a shitposter
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>>6339222
Aww you poor thing, that's not how relationships work sweetie
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>>6339226
you're definitely a she. and why do you do that? let 'em believe what they want to believe. i thought you /wanted/ to be a girl, no?
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>>6339234
how would you know?
you're a living doormat
you let anyone walk over you
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>>6339219
Oh when I was in my daily sponsor clothes I literally was hounded by women talking to me or asking me out, it was weird. I even had random guys walk up to me and say I was good looking or ask me if I was pro. I seriously could have had the world on a string if I didn't decide to be a degenerate tranny but once i'm over this slump I should be okay as an unattractive bitch.
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>>6339226
B-but you have boobs
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>>6339233
my faye collection is getting larger
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>>6339229
I have so much trouble sounding male on the phone. Always kind of have, but since the beginning of my medical leave, assuming my official identity when insurance companies call is kind of important and I'm always stressed up when the phone rings. I really need to get my ID change request in court asap.
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>>6339014
Nah. I was just fooling about.

She's all yours.

I'm back everyone.
What type or recipe do people want?
Sweet? Savory? Spicy?
Healthy? Fattening? Cheap?
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Good morning my fellow shitposters. What's going on? Did I miss any awesome stuff?
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>>6339243
I assume you already have the dress one?
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someone in australia sell me hormones please

reeeeeee
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oh timelines hey?
sure, why not?
http://i.imgur.com/OqwDifH.jpg

judge away. It's not like you could make me feel any worse at the moment.
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>>6339247
id let faye top me desu
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>>6339242
so do fat guys, let Faye say what she likes, its her transition
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>>6339221
Better 35 than 60 though
>>6339230
This makes sense actually, and I respect your opinion.

Maybe convincing myself to transition without really thinking it though tbqh
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>>6339249
you look cute tbhfam

what age did you start at?
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soup
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>>6339249
u pass
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>>6339250
what about maddie
you two would make a cute couple
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>>6339216
But did you even see that last pic?

>>6339225
She's either trolling or just trying to be edgy.
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>>6339247
yep, are there any more im missing?
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>>6339245
cheap and healthy
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>>6339246
Awesome stuff? Depends. Did you miss me?
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>>6339254
How was uni?
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>>6339254
Soup! :)
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>>6339253
24. I got reasonably lucky but still feel like a giant half the time.
>>6339255
ty. I still get gendered male at times (not counting "mate" cause aussie)
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>>6339251
B-but she owns and wears dresses, purses and heels
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>>6339260
just this one when she had short hair and still looked like a girl
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>>6339246
There's a deep old shit in my ass.
Smell it. Smells nice.
Finger in. Lick it. Tastes nice.
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>>6339235
I let people think what they want unless I have to open my mouth, I've never voic trained and I don't want people like hating or wanting to hurt me or whatever for being trans AND not trying
>>6339247
>>6339242
>>6339233
;-;
>>6339250
>tfw not single or you'd drive down to la for this
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>>6339256
fake jokes around but maddie is pure self obsessed poison 24/7
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>>6339264
Yay! What up C! Did you get any sunshine today?
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>>6339254
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>>6339279
All five minutes of it and now there's a thunderstorm.
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>>6339251
>so do fat guys
don't misgender sheen
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>>6339276
I wouldn't mind Faye topping me as well

>>6339277
She got the dollface virus
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>>6339281
IT'S JUST SOUP
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I wonder how long its gonna take for my managers to ask why i have to pee so often
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>>6339271
so do drag queens, like it doesn't prove anything. we all have our issues over our identity and validity and if it helps her deal with her transition and get through life then it doesn't harm anyone
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>>6339289
Weird but I never had that issue with spiro
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>>6339287
>She got the dollface virus
no shit, and to think I once considered maddie as my homie
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>>6339271
embrace the femboy
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>>6339277
I think Maddie is a pretty cool gal, seh gets mad cocks and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>6339271
Hersey
>>6339273
Pl..ease this is embarrassing
>>6339287
See above
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>>6339294
you aint gangsta give us back our word
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>>6339295
its hard to embrace femboys when you both have D cups
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>>6339151
>>6339176
>tfw I'm trying to grow my hair long, but sometimes I get the urge to try a pixie cut or something
I wish there were a way try out different hair lengths / cuts without the problem that if you don't like it short then it'll take years to get long again.
Oh well. My face is probably too masc to pull off a pixie anyway.
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>>6339294
she still is tho
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>>6339290
So much this... In my "trying to present as a guy" fifteen years, I always kept my hair long and almost every item of clothing I wore that wasn't government issued or underwear still came from the women's section...
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>>6339285
Well 5 minutes is better than no minutes! :p

Bus seriously, did you rest up, are you feeling better?
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>>6339290
She goes further than actual drags queens and cross dressers
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>>6339307
Had some sleep, yeah. Being back on E and every drug I need to function helps too. Still had nightmares but I think I'll never be rid of those anyway...
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>>6339261
Well, this isn't one you'll find online...

>3 pinches curry powder
>3 pinches Cayenne pepper
>1 pinch ground pepper
>1 pinch Sea Salt
>4 chicken breasts
>1 head Iceberg lettuce/Salad leaf of choice
>2 sprigs parsley (not needed, but nice)
>Olive oil (for pan)
>Feta cheese or salad dressing
>Sun-dried tomatoes
Total cost $15~
Makes 4 meals

Wash and take apart your Lettuce, and place it on a chopping board for later

Mix your pepper, cayenne, salt and curry powder in a bowl.

Chop your chicken into cubes and dip them in olive oil, and chop your tomatoes into slices(1mm thick).

Mix the chicken with your spices, and throw them and your tomatoes into a pre-heated pan, at medium heat.

While the chicken and tomato is frying (remember to flip it often) slice the salad leaves into strips (2mm thick) and toss them in a bowl with the corriander. Add the cheese or salad dressing.

once the chicken is brown on the outside (Make sure it's cooked through) Add it to the bowl, and toss the salad (don't be afraid to get your hands dirty)

Leave it for a short bit to cool then enjoy. This is best with ceasar or olive dressing.
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>>6339288
Are you like the legendary rare Pokemon Sophie?

>>6339307
Hola señor Faye, do you have a link to your girlfriend's hangout event? I like want to ask some sassy questions to the panelistas.
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>>6339268
I got stared at so much. I am not going out again today and skip class tomorrow.
I hate being a hon

>>6339269
<3

>>6339281
that picture :D
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>>6339252
Well thinking it through is always good even if transition is your first choice of remedy

>>6339308
>>6339271
people can identify how they like
pronouns are so unimportant lmao why does it matter so much
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>>6339297
If you were single, I'd hit it

>>6339320
Kill me sassssss
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>>6339321
I think they were staring at the cute girl listening to nazi songs on her headphones
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>>6339321
You get stared at because you're like 2cute4skewl.

>>6339313
Wow, what sort of nightmares ?
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>>6339328
What did you do to imaginary soup guy? :(

The best I can offer is that I tickle you to death :^)
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>>6339333
Well, this one made me the butt of Cassandra's curse and it had a nuclear apocalypse and worlds colliding... Better than the last movie I watched, to be honest. Lot more stressful when you feel you're living it, though.
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>>6339324
I don't get it why come so far but deny who you're becoming Faye can say she not but her actions show otherwise
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>>6339324
nah sluggy, pronouns are important in reinforcing personal validation and having control over your identity, like saying 'my pronouns are..' is pointless, people gender you however they see. that's why passing is important.

personal identity is unimportant to others. 'i identify as..' is literally pointless. people treat you however you look, act and sound. its why Faye saying 'i'm a man', even if its a coping mechanism, riles up nonpassers. desu its funny
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>>6339320
I dunno mayhaps

If I was a Pokemon I'd be a Salamence though
Or an aerodactyl
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>>6339335
Noo

>>6339339
Jelly
2cute
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>>6339321
Maybe they were staring because you are cute?
>>6339324
Yeah true, I'll try think it through then rushing it.

Sometimes when I plan transitioning, I say to myself "wtf am I doing"
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>>6339151
Do people honestly consider Blair White attractive? Her lips remind me of how Akira Toryiama draws black people.
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>>6339338
I love your classical greek references in your nightmares, I guess the cassandra thing is worse than whatever destruction falls because it renders you useless :(.

When I was a child, I'd use to have apocalyptic nightmares all the time, but those were church related!
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>>6339299
>tfw don't have this problem
At least this way, people who hug me can get closer to my heart, r-right?
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>>6339332
I wish.

>>6339333
I wish, they just look at me cause I look weird. I hope that its just me being underweight/anxious and stuff and nnot actually looking like a man, but Idk, if I assume the worst I cant get hurt

>>6339348
>Maybe they were staring because you are cute?
na, unlikely ._.
that doesnt happen here a lot here in general
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>>6339297
f-faye can you do me a favor and replicate this gif?
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http://i.imgur.com/LIT0R1o.jpg

i kinda want to get a short haircut and start going to the gym ngl. seeing the endo tomorrow and my shit surgery still won't update my details so I'm Mr Samantha Jamiebelle. dunno how to present. kinda feel i should bust out the drag king makeup
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>>6339349
>black people
I think you meant minstrel
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How many cocks would an ugly trans girl (purely hypothetically, one who looks like me) need to suck and fuck to make $1000 quickly
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>>6339362
about tree fitty
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>>6339362
just go be on gloryhole secrets
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>>6339360
please dont turn into larry 2
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>>6339362
you and kayla porn video
sell it to the highest bidder
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>>6339367
lily is an inspiration to me tho
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>>6339373
That be such an awkward video
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>>6339375
gross
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>>6339342
>nah sluggy, pronouns are important in reinforcing personal validation and having control over your identity, like saying 'my pronouns are..' is pointless, people gender you however they see. that's why passing is important.

You could argue that allowing yourself to be so invested in things like pronouns is actually setting yourself up for invalidation and insecurity, and putting the control of your identity outside your own mind.

>>6339348
Don't know if you ever looked at it but i must once again recommend reading this site
https://thirdwaytrans.com/about/
may b helpful
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>>6339362
going rate is $40-80, so lets call it $50. so 20 cocks
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>>6339362
Just one, but do it on camera and sell it or something
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>>6339362
Just trick someone into letting you tie them down then rob them desu. No one's going to confess they were trying to sleep with a transgirl also don't get killed. Seriously though I always see $50 a bj.


Tfw you wake up and your childhood friend tries to add you on normiebook I am not ready for this
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>>6339375
wait did lily detransition???
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>>6339382
>>6339384
I could totally suck 20 dicks
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>>6339377
but hey at least they would get a few grand each
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>>6339362
>actually sucking cock
You can certainly do better than that
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>>6339388
No, she's gone butch as planned and it suits her.
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>>6339345

>Mayhaps
Ooooh, do you like ASOIAF? Are you watching the TV show?

Salamance is best dragon! So you're like semi legendary then?

>>6339347
Tickles yus, death no!

>>6339356
>Expect the worst self defense
I'm exactly that way :/ it still hurts though.
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>>6339389
In a row
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>>6339388
no he was a faker
you don't know him
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>>6339393
photos?
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>>6339389
Tfw zero dicks sucked and no one's willing to help me out with that
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>>6339388
No, but these days her presentation is so masculine that she might as well have
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>>6339380
it does do that but it also puts the direction of your transition in your own hands and means you have to improve to push for your goals. if all you need is your own mind, there's no need to physically transition at all.

>>6339379
i had a whole inspo folder of 'butch girls kissing' i'd save anytime she's post from like 2013 i swear

>>6339397
enimem.jpeg

nah desu but thats the meme
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>>6339339
o.o cutee
>>6339359
A..fter finals?
>>6339349
It's her makeup, but she looks like an average white chick, and that's attractive to people
>>6339320
>replying to yourself
>>6339308
I..spent so much time asking if I could, I never stop to ask if I should
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>>6339362
You're not ugly! >:(

You should suck cocks for free and demand tips, so you know, monetizing sex doesn't get you arrested.
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>>6339394
I adore ASOIAF
I'm not watching the TV show cause I fell behind now I'm just gonna wait for it to be over and binge it, I like the books a lot better so far :c

Also yes Salamence is love
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>>6339397
From the archive.
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>>6339356
Prove that you're a hon, then.
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>>6339405
Ultimately what or who is holding you from it and why is it so
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>>6339405
I'm an idiot :(
>Not replying anyways
I love your microaggressions! <3
please tell me! Don't be mean
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>>6339273
My only hope is a pixie cut. I really hope my face gets fem enough.
>>
>hair finally long enough to headbang again
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>>6339362
you can make way more than $80 sucking dick lol. or else men wouldn't even try to be nice.
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>>6339403
> if all you need is your own mind, there's no need to physically transition at all.
sounds good to me :^)
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>>6339382
Lmao jennifer are you serious, 40 to 80 bucks for a fucking bj, by maddie none the less?
30 dollars should be her most ambitious asking price for a blowjob, and thats just for any blowjob in general, it aint worth that fucking much. Id give her 20 if she sucked good otherwise a 10.
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>>6339424
get back on hrt so you're not feeling so down all the time
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>>6339418
my man
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>>6339427
someone who enjoys sucking dick should pay dick havers for the privilege desu
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>>6339407
Tfw uggo
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>>6339407
>You should suck cocks for free and demand tips, so you know, monetizing sex doesn't get you arrested.
producing porn is legal though
so she and kayla could produce porn and sell it for thousands of dollars and split the money
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>>6339407
Hey Sass! You asked about my bday but I had already gone to sleep. It was rather uneventful but still nice that my friends remembered 'n stuff. Today I got a bunch of stuff in mail and it was awesome, thank you so much CFH!
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>>6339430
Not yet. There's no rush really, only need to if it becomes unbearable.
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>>6339432
Yeah this too, at best money for blowjobs should be seen as of like a tip. Like if youre broke and tell a guy hell prob give you some sympathy cash after a bj and thats like a tip and not a set price.
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>>6339408
Awwwwwww! I need someone to discuss the show with :(.

Did you read the sort of newish Arianne chapter from WOW?

I remember when I caught my first bagon in emerald, I made such a fuss my parents though someone had died.
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>my favorite dota team is looking really strong
>my least favorite dota teams all lost and two of them fell out of losers bracket at last place
Today is a great day.
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>been in europe the past month and a half
>get gendered correctly 90% of the time i go out with makeup and proper clothes
>was even gendered correctly a few times with hair tied up and no makeup
>people on the internet tell me im still a far way away from passing

what am i supposed to feel
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>>6339398
Try not being cancer, or passing, or just find a nice gay guy on tindr
>>6339415
>calling me a man
>accusing me of micro aggressions
I'm sorry for raping you with my presence
>>6339422
Tru I've seen guys drop hundreds on way less
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>>6339440
wizard confirmed
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>>6339444
is your favorite team mvp and your least favorite team secret?

are you me?
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>>6339427
maybe you should show us how its done?
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>>6339450
There's passing and there's stealth, most people are talking about being stealth
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who /only ever unintentionally dated trans people/ here
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>>6339436
To make money in pronz you sort of have to have the marketing and stuff all set up or sell it to a distributor, because once anon has his hands on it, you know it'll be uploaded to one of those free sites :(

>>6339437
I'm sort of reading in vetween the lines you had a fun day, though. Next year we throw a tranny birthday bash with pizza and pizzacake, right?

>>6339434
Stop it, don't devalue yourself.
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>>6339452
Can a wizard be a John
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>>6339454
Yes precisely
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>>6339456
If guys actually paid 80 dollars for a blowjob id suck dick on the side and make a ton of money because that is ridiculously much just to make a guy nut, I know I wouldnt pay for that shit.

I mean my pay is decent but id still need to work like 3-4 hours at least to make 80 bucks.
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>>6339464
i went to ti5 and stood outside the arena with QO and Febby and NutZ while we waited for our rides to get there.

they are all really nice and cute and stuff.
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should i go to the gym to do exercise mtfg?

pros
>i will do exercise

cons
>im lazy
>i will not enjoy it cause im lazy
>its cold outside
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>>6339466
I mean
the only way you would get $80 would be if you were attractive enough to them
so you would have to transition
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oh fuck her prayer worked you guys D:
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>>6339451
I don't know how to respond. :(
I think you're really cool and pretty, and I'm sorry if I made you feel bad. I thought I was playing along with the joke, but I guess my jokes are not that good. I'm sorry, I didn't mean anything bad by it.
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>>6339470
Yes, go!
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>>6339470
go home and eat icecream and donuts
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>>6339470
Workout inside instead
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>>6339471
Yeah but I like my job right now where I dont suck dick and can boss people around.
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>>6339388
nah

what makes you think that lmao
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>>6339472
>being a cunt on facebook
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I'll never have a chance to transition until it's far too late, and I just can't keep living anymore. Which poison taste like almonds? I wanna be dead but I'm still too much of a pussy to violently kill myself, so I'll just try to quietly go into that long goodnight.
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>>6339472
oh dear you are now so distraught that you will never love another man again, infact you renounce your femininity and only date other women
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>>6339480
I don't even know what this women is on about tbqh
I was just asking for evidence of rape culture
>>6339483
wat xD
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>>6339478
then become a domme as a side job
look do I have to think of everything?
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>>6339482
Cyanide tastes like almonds. You can taste it when you eat the pips of apples.

Don't suicide please.
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>>6339458
And then there's deep stealth. I'll stay in between because actually making my social life a blank state would be very hard on me, and a death sentence if I succeeded, with no one between me and suicide.
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>>6339485
>wat xD
the curse, it worked and made you distraught enough to turn into a butch lesb
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>>6339483
sounds good to me, girl love best love
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>>6339485
>posting on facebook ever
it is not 2012 anymore
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>>6339476
>Tfw when you have ice cream but no donuts

T-T
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Okay i got my 100mg prometrium (progesterone) capsules. I've never had capsule meds before but you just swallow them whole with water right like pills? Should I take these at some specific time of day? After a meal? The administration tips online seem to vary a lot based on what you're treating and I couldn't find a tranny dosage guide.

>>6339460
>I'm sort of reading in vetween the lines you had a fun day
It was nice most of the day, then a bit of crying in the evening yet I was still smiling when I went to bed. Coulda been much worse ^^
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>>6339486
I didnt ask for advice, what are you, an aspiring pimp?
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>>6339488
yes and if you were to eat 100g of apple pips you would probably die
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>>6339477
it is inside ._.

>>6339475
but lazy... ok

>>6339476
i dont want this for me.
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i will achieve stealth by moving to another country because everyone thinks british women are masculine as hell anyway

this will work
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>>6339495
shut up bitch
*slap*
now take your hormones
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> tfw your fellow student tells you that
your breasts become rather noticable
feels good
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>>6339497
>i dont want this for me.
well then exercise but eat donutes and icecreams at home
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>>6339492
what else to do when studying tho ?
>>6339490
zozzle
probably
>>6339450
iktf
>internet tells me I pass as male
>nobody irl believes me I'm male
feels bad man
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>>6339466
guys pay like hundreds/thousands for cheap whores. so Like 80+ blowjob, 300+ sex. This is low tier red light you dont want to look at the in real light hookers too. time to get sucky cucky cartman.
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>>6339494
Progesterone makes most people sleepy so taking it before going to bed isn't a bad idea. Just treat them like pills, yeah. The soft caps form is just so they can also be used for vaginal administration. 100-200 mg is what's usually done for HRT.
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>>6339500
W
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>>6339451
Why are you even replying to me just to harass me? Filter me. Delete all the photos of me you've saved. Get a new hobby.
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Whose seen president Obamas new trans faith leader for the White House?
>>6339474
I was still meme'n >.> I'm always meme'n
>>6339489
Deep stealth isn't another level of passing, it just means absolutely no one knows, rather then just your partner and maybe a close friend or two
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>>6339443
I haven't yet, I haven't been doing much reading at all recently

But yes that hunt for the elusive bagon was horrible, even worse when I ko'd my first one I found
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>>6339507
Alright thanks for confirming ^^
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>>6339512
You keep changing your trip desu, yesterday you were beep
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>>6339472
I dont get it, was she raped forreal or just crying about it on social media.
>>6339500
Anon why do you got such a hardon for me and sissy fetishes.
>>6339506
Well considering how much money guys waste on camwhores it wouldnt surprise me, aint me though to pay for it or perform it so shut your whore mouth anon.
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>>6339512
Be the bigger person here, doesn't seem like she will, just ignore her.
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>>6339506
Catman will be out here tricking
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>>6339513
I am deep stealth I guess. True stealth is going to your own funeral and banging your former best friend.
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>>6339519
she wasn't raped as far as I know
it was just some random gril bitching at me for asking for evidence of rape culture
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>>6339513
Yeah, but plenty of people mistake that for daily stealth and think it's a necessary goal. Which isn't always healthy.
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>>6339492
Omg long time no see :3


Funny that you post here when I haven't been here in a while.
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>>6339517
Like you don't know my trips?? Leave me alone
>>6339520
Ya
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>>6339519
>Anon why do you got such a hardon for me and sissy fetishes.
I SAID SHUT UP BITCH AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING HORMONES
*slaps again even harder*
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>>6339521
kek his lips are puckered and ready for entry.
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>>6339522
Don't tempt me, I'm crazy enough to try that and get away with it.
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>>6339524
back to your MRA roots huh
you're slowly but surely becoming a man again
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>>6339501
i work with a young cis woman who is skinny as fuck, an inch shorter than me and i have bigger boobs and butt thanks to my chunky more masculine bone structure. she hates me for it, basically says 'how is that fair when you're a man' and desu her tears are delicious. being more traditionally feminine in proportion as a 'man' to the point it upsets cis women is just great. i live for this.

>>6339522
does serving people i was at school with from the age of 3 food at work as they talk about school people, and the general rumor is that i went crazy and killed myself, and they thank me and i ask what desserts they want and no-one knows its me, in my own home town i was born and grew up in count as true stealth?
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>>6339529
W
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>>6339533
>back to your MRA roots huh
what ?
how is trying to understand something MRA ?
>you're slowly but surely becoming a man again
how so mel ?
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>>6339534
Is that a rhetorical question?
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>>6339469
They're so adorable and hakuna matata
I just want to give all of them a hug
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>>6339513
How would your partner not find out? Unless you don't have sex?
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>>6339534
thats like 99% and lol I congratulate you on your accomplishment though. but you have to bang your former best friend it's in the clause.
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>>6339524
Evidence of rape culture: we have multiple school football teams across the nation in different states that all are having problems for covering up player rapes

When something happens the same way unprompted multiple times across thousands of miles to unrelated people, we can say this is a cultural phenomenon.


Different places also have different rape cultures, you Can find plublic gang bang rapes all across India for example, but you wouldn't see that happening in the US, because it's not engrained in our men here like it is there
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>>6339539
does it count as true stealth
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e1gxLvbX3Ow

I never came so hard
2017 is going to be good for vidya
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>>6339541
SRS is pretty good these days...
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>>6339535
for wombo?
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>>6339531
you're so french its fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK8uPFwL4Xk
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>>6339541
If you have srs? I know girls that don't tell people if it's a one night stand or not going to be serious
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>>6339545
Ya
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>>6339544
any statistics or peer reviewed papers on that ?
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>>6339547
>using old formula which was used to death
>appealing to nostalgia of a niche audience
>still looks like shit

whatever makes u happy anon
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>>6339527
>it's only ok when I talk to you or your girlfriend, I'm a victim when you talk to me
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>>6339543
my former best friend raped me when i was 12 after i told him i wasn't a boy, and i drifted around largely friendless for 6 years afterwards. i never told anyone, but he was pulled from school due to his behavioral issues and his family moved away. i knew someone at uni who came from the place he moved to. apparently he's now apparently in prison for rape and domestic abuse so w/e i'm good for not doing that desu :/
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>>6339524
Oh lol, why do you use kikebook anyways, its a fucking FBI database as well as a library of you up for buys by advertisers. I hope you got a vague account of yourself at best.
>>6339529
I only let cute girls slap me around and feminize me anon.
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>>6339555
You could always look it up for yourself
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>>6339557
>looks like shit
This is basically what banjo-threeie was suppose to be. BK and BT were amazing
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>>6339564
>I only let cute girls slap me around and feminize me anon.
*SLAP*
SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO BITCH
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>>6339496
Wow, eating 100g of pips might give you intestinal blockage.

>>6339515
It sort of sounds like you're sad that you haven't been able to read? I bet you're like all busy and stuff. I won't bother you with my inane chat :3

I actually master balled that bagon. Hahahahaha. I could never capture rayquaza afterwards :(
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>>6339558
I don't even want you to explain. Just filter me like you said you would or admit you're desperate for my attention
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>>6339571
W
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>>6339410
why? either youll hugbox the fuck out of me, or the anons will bully me.
heres a secret: I put on a pretty strong front against harassment on here, but I am actually REALLY fragile.
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>>6339513
>TFW I got meme'd by Faye

Also, thanks Obama!
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>>6339564
>Oh lol, why do you use kikebook anyways
to stay in touch with my old teachers since most of them have pretty good advice on basejumping,traveling etc.
other than that to shitpost
>>6339565
well or I can just ask for sources while I don't have time to look for it myself
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>>6339555
Do you want news paper clips? Can't you google to see the actual news? To prove something is cultural, you just need multiple events happening exactly the same way to completely different people across large distances, this happens bi monthly in the US and when it's investigated it shows long term habitual rape and sexual abuse unturned.

Statistics and peer reviewed work is only for quantifying exactly how bad something is, or trying to find what in our culture causes men to try to hide rape when in positions of power, and what causes these athletes to rape. (Again this is US rape culture, you won't see this type of hung in Japan or something because the culture is different)
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>>6339574
He likes attention
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>>6339579
People are always better off not posting pics of themselves here, there's nothing to be gained.
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>>6339579
Just to satisfy my curiosity. Remember, bravado becomes real once you start believing your own bullshit.
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>>6339579
B-but don't you like pain or is it the physical kind you enjoy
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>>6339579
I believe in you <3
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>>6339534
Haven't heard anyone talk about me yet, but I'm currently in my home village, and none of the people who once knew me very well that I've crossed paths with has recognized me so far. Not even neighbors. So I think I'm safe.
Also, my passport isn't very old, but my stint through airport checkpoints has shown me neither facial recognition algorithms nor humans think it could possibly be mine. Had to lengthily explain and out myself at every check, actually...
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>>6339584
How about during your free time research it
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>>6339589
Really?
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>>6339555
Take this you Falco hater!
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
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t f w /crushing on a straight girl/

Anyone want to suicide pact with me?
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>>6339594
terrified of that, so glad i got a new passport. my old one, i looked like Christopher Lee as Dracula
>>
I really should get my id updated..its embarrassing af having to show people boy me when theyre so giddy and excited a girls talking to them. I mean it's also pretty funny aometimes. But mostly awkward
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>>6339604
Eventually.
>>6339606
I'm crushing on my straight guy best friend, so I'm in.
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>>6339605
Did someone say Falco?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFWSyowtar4
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>>6339526
i just came back yesterday
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>>6339579
>I put on a pretty strong front against harassment on here, but I am actually REALLY fragile.
If a tree falls in the forest without anyone around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Image Phiench, image.
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>>6339526
hope youre doing well <3
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>>6339614
Want to meet up bebe?

I am board as fuck atm and have time to spare. Still live in desert or in Commiefornia?

Still have my number or skype?
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>>6339615
chaser cucks are relentlessly desperate.
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>>6339612
http://youtu.be/wldO_9-nKhM
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>>6339607
Can't get a new one until my ID change request is approved by a judge, and SRS is a prerequisite for that, so I couldn't do it before. Thankfully, if my calculations are right, I should be getting about €7000 before the end of the month, late wages and insurance payouts, so I'll be able to afford the lawyer I need for that.
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>>6339626
Well, as far as chasers go, he's not bad...

He needs a shave, and some fashion sense, but you could fall for worse...
Also he's a pretty nice guy from what I've seen.
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>>6339611
Are you sure they don't know? Maybe it's just because you were uglier before hrt?
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>>6339626
but cartman is one of my girls
she just needs a little bit of laser and a vegan diet before starting HRT
>>
Attention all chasers!!!
Tell us about your relationship with your mom
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>>6339630
Who's nice?
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>>6339612
That was a rethorical question. I have a bit of method acting training in my baggage.
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/mtfg/ you should all contribute to my patreon for... i dont know just give me money so i dont have to work please
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>>6339574
That's not how logic works outside of a playground

Also, if you respond to this you're gay
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>>6339636
Cartman.

He just needs to put a bit more effort into his appearance, and he'd be dateable.
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>>6339642
>cartman..nice
hahaha
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>>6339640
>Also, if you respond to this you're gay
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>>6339588
yeah I am pretty sure thats true unless you look like edie or fufu

>>6339589
I dont understand this.

>>6339590
I do, but theres a limit to how much I can take mentally before I meltdown, and that would impact my bfs life negatively, so its not an option sadly.

>>6339592
thank you anon <3

>>6339615
Ive thought about getting back to a more aggressive style desu, Ive been very docile lately, but the newer trips seem to be more decent than the last few waves, so I dont really have a reason to bitch. I enjoy power trips online though, even if I cant even look people in the face irl.

>>6339632
>and a vegan diet before starting HRT
>vegan
WHY
do you want him to suicide

>>6339642
he already is datable.
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>>6339640
>Also, if you respond to this you're gay
I am desu
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>>6339639
Show feet
Youre so pretty
What's your kik
اَللّٰهُ أَكْبَر
Are you working tonight baby
(Faye tiped 1 token)
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>>6339642
agreed
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>>6339640
I said edie looked nice and ur bullying me for it. That's some insecurity
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>>6339639
Wonder if I could use that kind of site to turn my creative ventures into something that's padding my wallet instead of a bottomless money sinkhole. I've been told I should. I'm just too at odds with the idea of commerce.
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>>6339644
Well, what's he done wrong?
Are you just being mean for the sake of it?

>>6339646
mmmmmmm....

Only if I get to put him in a suit and go to a fancy dinner.

>>6339652
HEAR THAT CARTMAN?

WE WANT PICS OF YOU IN A SUIT!
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>>6339605
literally what ?
>>6339585
well if we use that logic rape is inherently natural rather than cultural isn't it ?
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>>6339649
Faye please im in a Wendys I cant just crack up by myself in a public place like this
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hi mtfg~
how are you doing today? i just woke up a bit ago.
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>>6339588
I usually get positive attention and thats all that matters in life
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>>6339646
Keep putting up a strong front to the point of believing that you are strong.
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>>6339656
>wait you're serious, let me laugh louder

HAHAHA
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>>6339646
>WHY
>do you want him to suicide
no I want her stick thin with malnourishment so she can get the most out of hrt
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>>6339656
i'd rather have him lose some more pounds tbqh.
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>>6339662
We're bullying Cartman into giving us pictures of him tidied up and in a suit.

>>6339666

Well, I like him anyway

>>6339669
Oh I can bully him into doing that afterwards.
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>>6339662
Much better, thankfully.
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>>6339671
>Oh I can bully him into doing that afterwards.
and then the hrt
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>>6339613
I know, right? He's like awesomeness personified . Can you imagine Lilly not only doesn't like falco, she literally HATES Falco! And she's Austrian!

I literally can't even to this day.

http://youtu.be/_w4Xulsjo5I
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>>6339675
Then pimping him
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>>6339675
...Welllll...

Maybe.

I dunno.

I wouldn't mind him dressed all fancy, with muscles underneath. So bully him into a suit, bully him into fitness and then I'd leave it at that.
Cartman is the threads husbando edition when?.
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>>6339677
I leterally only own two CDs and one if them is Falco The Hit Singles.

>>6339671
After dinner he has to lose some extra pounds tho.
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>>6339684
well after you bully him into fitness bully him into getting a super slim upper body and a thicc lower body
and then the HRT
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>>6339677
>she literally HATES Falco

thats cause shes a good girl.

>>6339665
NEVER going to happen, sorry anon.

>>6339668
but why VEGAN
thats torture
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>>6339687
I can think of some actions that help with that.
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>>6339688
I refuse!
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>>6339688
that's silly i don't hate you
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>>6339689
Anon...

No.
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>>6339698
why not :(
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>>6339690
Fair enough about the pics, but you should believe in your own strength more either way.
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>>6339694
>>6339695
But why
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>>6339689
W
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>>6339690
How can you not like Falco :o

>>6339693
How is that going to work? I thought Cartman had a small penis.
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>>6339688
There's no reason to hate you from my perspective
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>>6339647
>>6339645

Fags <3


>>6339653
Listen CreepCreep she is pretty like your post said, and tons of guys tell her that in front of me (also creepy)
I just don't want any more texts from people asking what the hell your doing talking to her
>>6339657
The point isn't to prove rape happens, it's to show the opposite, that it's not just boys being boys, that's the idea it's arguing against

Today in India 5 men were sentenced to 20 years prison for raping a woman on a public street with 4 children (who are yet to be charged, but also took turns raping her)

This doesn't happen in the US or most other places, but repeatedly happens in India, so it can be easily pointed out as a cultural thing, this is their rape culture. It's a culture based around how and when it's permissible to rape a woman.

It's not some abstract idea of the left either, part of my training in the army was rape and assault training, and the basis of that was that these men do not know or think it's wrong when they are doing it, I've seen probably about 50 interviews where they openly admit to rape and say "but I didn't Rape her" during this training.

Stoping the military rape culture was a published and listed objective of almost every base commander I've ever had as well.
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>>6339699
It's a great idea
>>
>>6339688
careful you could become the next sheen with this attitude
>>
>>6339699
Because he's got the bone structure to pull off the Bond look.

>>6339706
Have you heard of the Kama Sutra?
>>
>>6339707
There's every reason from mine to hate me. I know me best so you should trust me
>>
>>6339703
Because youre a nice cutie that has given me no reason to dislike
Youve just had a hard life but youre still someone worth liking
>>
>>6339702
but thats the opposite of my personality, and the opposite of what I want :<

>>6339706
>How can you not like Falco :o
stop memeing me
>>
>>6339714
>trusting transwomen on themselves
no
>>
>>6339698
>Not making artman your bottom bitch

Smh
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>>6339656
>wanting to see Cartman in a suit
>not a fancy dress
Wow, get a load a this pleb.
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>>6339728
>artman
>cartman confirmed next hitler

alright!
>>
Maki has a bf now. He said he's never going to be with another transgender again.
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>>6339728
But I can do both?
I'm a switch!

>>6339731
The dress is for bird-brain

I wanna turn Cartman into Bond.
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>>6339713
Y-yes but I never tried.

>>6339725
I am not memeing.
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>>6339714
Hey I hate myself too but that doesn't mean others should. They're not the ones that have to suffer from all the shitty decisions I've made in the past regarding myself so it's understandable they don't hate my guts the same way I do.
>>
>>6339712
I like Sheen though. She's nice
>>6339721
Am I really worth liking though. And I'm really not cute
>>6339727
Why though
>>
post estradiol baselines, bitches
>>
>>6339738
He was using trannies as a stepping stone to homosexuality in the first place.
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>>6339743
what If I hate myself because of the the things Ive done in the past and the things I feel, and the things I am too weak to do. What i I am a manyls disgusting waste of space?
>>
>>6339743
Well I'm an awful person.
>>6339745
>tfw endo won't give you your numbers
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>>6339752
>what If I hate myself because of the the things Ive done in the past and the things I feel, and the things I am too weak to do
Then you are literally me.
>>
>>6339739
So you want a Ken doll. It be more fun to make him my bitch senpai
>>
>>6339747
he is repressed tranny as fuck
I give him 3 years max
>>
>>6339630
>He needs a shave
>Going babyface mode
Im not metrosexual sirona, and facial hair is always a work in progress, I aint shaving that shit off, I'm dedicating to making it work even if it only pays off when I'm 40, commitment is gold.
>>6339642
As far as clothes go I took the pic on the fly, like it wasnt even a clean shirt I mean cmon, this is /mtfg/ not /cgl/ do you really expect me to dress up for yall? (I kid I kid)
>>6339656
>WE WANT PICS OF YOU IN A SUIT!
Aight here you go then, only got my work uniform because I aint paying for a suit that shit is ripoff.
https://unsee.cc
/sibamupe/
>>
>>6339710
Ur a cuck lol
>>
>>6339769
>pug nosed, baby faced autist with weak facial hair and no frontal balding/receding who posts anime girls

i give you 6 months and 3 laser sessions before you're one of us, and 9 months til you're one of the best of us
>>
>>6339769
Now post butt
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>>6339739
>not wanting to give Cartman a makeover and make her look pretty while she tries to pretend she doesn't enjoy every second of it
>not wanting to drag her out of the closet
>>
>>6339772
Women can't be cucks sorry, it does leave the door open for you, but I'm glad your exgf was nice enough to just leave you before she satiated her cock lust in college.
>>
>>6339785
>W

This
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>>6339787
shots fired
>>
>>6339769
Ok, I admit, the beard will work in time, but you do look really good in a suit <3

Eat a little healthier and you'd look really good.

>>6339785
>not wanting to keep your plans a secret.
Honestly.
>>
>>6339778
you can read it on his face
thats why the sunglasses
we would be able to tell by seeing his eyes
I bet he thinks he is to manly to make it
>>
>>6339787
Fight Fight Fight
>>
>>6339738
who gives a fuck about some dumb manlet lol
>>
>>6339796
It's not like he had a choice
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>>6339778
>Anime girls
This still isn't your thing btw, and please anon, Im getting my shit together, still got plenty of fat to shred, gonna look like an olympian god I tell you.
>>6339796
Ive shredded 36 kilos in a half year period, my BMI says I got about 10 more to go, im getting there, luckily im tall enough not to blob, I weep for short fat guys.

And yeah I love that suit, good enough to bodyguard the president in.
>>
>start playing dota for the day
>game one
>american np gets killed by a rotation, mass pings, then tells everyone to fuck off for not helping
>feed the game away, feeds cour, we lose
>game two
>I disconnect before game starts, lose starting gold
>When i finally get in my game (supporting) my carry lets a juggernaut kill me multiple times
>he has a level and gold advantage because of my late start
>my pa runs away as he runs up on me, even tho i cant outrun him
>never fights
>peruvians gg at 20 minutes and feed
Do i dare play another
>>
>>6339811
we know which god in particular
>>
>>6339787
Our breakup was mostly mutual and it's not like I don't have cocklust either. Your jabs at me are laughable.
>>
>>6339811
Try goddess instead
>>
>>6339769
>>6339769
this man is a %100 tool kek, women here have no sense of self worth.
>>
>>6339769
protip: a beard that looks like it was made from pubic hair isn't an acceptable substitute for a jawline.
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>>6339824
We will rebuild and redesigned him as a woman senpai
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>>6339820
I'm worried about your revisionist view of history, it may be a good way to cope, but I think it's also why you believe it was ok to talk to us

I hope you find yourself a nice gay boy who tells his friends "he's straight now" with a little smirk
>>
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>>6339832
>>6339824

chasers are just repressed trannies trying to live vicariously through a trans girlfriend anyways
>>
>>6339815
You can if you wanna, sounds like a rough streak though. I'm considering playing one too, though I also wanna play with bexe later
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>>6339843
>>
>>6339836
You're sad lol. What else should I expect to from some one like you though? I forgive you.
>>
Oh my God I missed a picture of cartman? End my life desu
>>
>>6339851
He's a huge beta in a suit wearing sunglasses
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>>6339847
Than you for forgiving me for what you did, it means so much to me
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>>6339851
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>>6339851
he lives up to his name.
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pls stop fighting .__.
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I have a feeling that I am annoying people simply by existing. Why does nobody like me?
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>>6339867
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>
>>6339867
>W

You win you win
>>
>>6339867
I would be ok with him if he didn't misgender/fetishize.
>>
>>6339871
Oh?

I don't really know you, but you seem nice enough...
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>>6339671
>We're bullying Cartman into giving us pictures of him tidied up and in a suit.
Im the type of guy who admires himself in the mirror so I really dont mind sharing. I just held off on pics before because who the fuck wants to see a fatass anyways.
>>6339737
In this day and age, imagine all the amazing banners and propaganda posters we could make if that were to happen.
>>6339798
The shades are there to protect my identity, shades turn you into another man.
>>6339819
Kek, oh anon, so predictable yet not.
>>6339843
Gotta chase to be a chaser.

Anyways im gonna fuck off now for a while now to give you all some girl time.
>>
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MADDIEEEEE

>>6336949

>>6336949

>>6336949
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>>6339869
what is that girl doing
thats not how you put on lipstick
she is silly
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Can someone pls tell me who this, and are there any more pictures?
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>>6339690
1. You're just angry that Mozart>Beethoven
2. I literally can't even with falco h8rs

>>6339687
>MFW I'm Falco best friends with F
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>>6339900
why are you such a bitch
>>
>>6339871
People often keep to themselves, so even if you're not annoying they might not care much for you
You don't seem annoying to me for what little it's worth
>>
>>6339902
I can tease her about being cute, because we fell asleep on a couch together
>>
>>6339900
I never had muscles I guess.
>>
>>6339899
I'm saving Dog goalie. made me kek.
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bored
what do ?
also
>tfw finally on easy to take mones
neat.jpg
>>
>>6339879
>>6339901
>>6339904
Thank you, its just.. for example:
I am alway the one who writes people and checks how they are doing via whatsapp, kik, skype, steam whatever.
Nobody ever messages me and I feel like nobody is really interested in talking to me. Then I stop messaging them bc I am worried that I annoy them.

Or is it normal that you only message each other when you want something and I am doing it wrong bc I am too caring / lonely.
>>
>>6339936
Nah. I'm in the same boat. I stopped doing it and people started saying "wtf dude? why are you being antisocial all of a sudden? We had to make the call ourselves!"
>>
>>6339936
alessiafova skype nao! I'll show you who's annoying AF!
>>
Sleeping naked is tha best
>>
>TFW I masturbate and wanting to be a woman dissapears

AGP master race here! enjoy your hormones, faggots!!!
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>tfw talking to cute boy while playing Overwatch
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>>6339978
It's comfy to sleep but horrible to wake up to the sight of conetits and a flaccid gt. I still do it desu
>>
>>6339941
Uh, really? Can't rember that happening to me.
>>6339941
added you :)
>>6339979
>tfw I masturbate and want even more to be a woman.
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>>6339978
>tfw too cold to sleep nude rn
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>>6339998
Stop being a baby
>>
>>6339998
Iktf :/ it's nearly winter and my window is cracked right through, so the cold air comes in my room all night
>>
Is it worth killing myself if hormones turn me from bi to a disgusting transbian with no hope of getting a gf ever?
>>
>>6339998
>>6340003
>living in the southern hemisphere

Utter savages,
>>
>>6339995
So comfy. Iktf tho I didn't used to do it for that reason

>>6339998
;~;
I'd trade hot weather for cold though, wanna swap kit?
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>>6340010
Very worth it.
>>
>>6340010
one of us
one of us
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>>6340010
I didn't have any hope of getting gf but still got one. Dont sudoku and join the club
>>
>>6340010
one of us
one of us
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>>6340003
my room is freezing, ii just wrap myself in blanket cacoon and wait for summer again t b h

>>6340002
im not a baby ;_; i just like to be warm

>>6340019
nothing with with southern hemisphere anon

>>6340021
omgg just come here rn !!
>>
>>6340010
It's pretty hard to be so disgusting that you can't find *anyone*. I mean, if you were decent enough that you thought you could get a bf back when you were bi you should be decent enough to get a gf if you start to only like grills.
>>
>>6340010
Can hormones turn a straight girl gay?
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>>6340060
Hormones made me more bi but dicks are the best.
>>
>>6340060
No but I can ;)
>>
>>6340060
nope u just stopped repressing yourself.
>>
>>6340060
Sometimes, but I'd say the reverse is more common.

>>6340049
I totally would if I could afford it ;~;
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>>6340060
Just about anything is possible with hormones, I don't know why it would be the case but it seems to be that for the most part you're basically re-rolling your orientation by taking them.
>>
>>6339936
I don't really know...
With respect to the friends I made in high school it's the same way, we almost only talk when I start it, and then it never lasts long because I have nothing to say
I've only made a few friends after that, but it seems each has their own balance, though most aren't fully on me to do the contact which is nice
>>
>>6340081
people who say this were just conformists. your sexual preference is in stone like your gender.
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>>6340099
damn communists at it again
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>>6340060
You lust for dicks and you lust for cuddles. The former is better done by men whereas the latter is better done by girls so it can really swing either way. Just get a MtF gf without much tinker dysphoria and you can have both in one
>>
>>6340060
Yes
>>6340010
No
>>6339978
Yes, esp. with smooth legs
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desu I just want a master to come and make me his pet and I won't have to worry about my shitty life anymore
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>>6340099
>your sexual preference is in stone like your gender
lmoa

>>6340115
sleep tight puppre
>>
>>6340108
yes your born with a gender/orientation, your body however is what gets mismatched to your brain. for people who switched they were repressed bi, and even among bi there is a scale like mostly like masc, mostly like fem etc.
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>>6340070
>TFW Faye will never sissify you
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>>6340118
>you will never be a pet housewaifu
>>
>>6340099
Look, you can choose whether or not you want to believe it, but I can say without a shred of doubt that hormones affected my orientation, and moreover this happened without being aware that it was a possible effect. A very large number of trans women feel this way, it's not a coincidence.
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>>6340112
hihi all lol ^^
>>
>>6340088
>and then it never lasts long because I have nothing to say
Thats a curse! Oh my gosh, are you me?
>>
>>6340136
'lo again blu.
>>
>>6340134
yeah you were repressed. or bi. society says oh you have to like this and people do it and then once they switch society says oh you have to like this and they just do it.
>>
and dysphoria, nvm I look like a guy back to my cocoon. see you in three seasons after my deep slumber. :3
>>
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>listen to this high late at night
>end up bawling and it's better than therapy

are there any other albums like this
>>
I was a super stud before hrt and now I'm a sissy cockwhore
>>
>>6340170
nice
>>
>>6340112
>tfw I have yet to feel any hrt dick-lust, but I've had a lot of hrt cuddle-lust
Looks like I'm gonna be transbian 4 lyfe. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>
>>6340165
>are there any other albums like this
Mediocre ones? Yeah.
>>
>>6340170
and deep down you always were is what im getting at. people love to blame anything else out of insecurity/repression.
>>
>>6340177
kek
>>
>>6340151
Then why did I just plain have no attraction to guys before hormones and almost exclusively have attraction for guys after hormones? It wasn't exactly a small shift, the only real constant is that I didn't have much interest in sex with girls.

I didn't particularly care what society thought, just experimented and liked it. I guess you're implying that I was "gay" but unaware of it? Seems p hard to be unaware of something like that.
>>
>>6340178
Just because I got really drunk at gay clubs and woke up in guy's beds accidentally doesn't mean I always liked men
>>
>>6340170
I was a girl with no sex drive, now I'm a woman with still no sex drive.
>>
Whats its like to have a guy cum in your butt?
>>
>>6340184
I mean sucking one dick doesn't make you gay, I'd know I've done it dozens of times.
>>
>>6340139
Funny, I've never met anyone else like that
It is pretty much a curse, yeah.
>>6340112
You can also lust for boobs
Cuddles are amazing too, of course
>>
>>6340184
I wish you were into gt
>>
>>6340099
>>6340151
As someone who has never really felt much towards guys and still doesn't I can tell you that hormones have made me prone to lusting for cock. Not that I really care much about guys still but definitely more than before.

>>6340176
>>6340200
That's the way to go desu. Girls r the best.
>>
>>6340183
yeah you didn't have sex with girls because you were repressed and your identity crisis was in the way so now that you are more free to express yourself you feel safe enough to like guys. and that would make you straight the whole time. the fact that you consider it "gay" proves that you have internalized homophobia, thus repression -_- yes blame the mones lol. not that your gay but if mones worked that way they would of fed us this shit for a long time to "cure" us. you cant change sexual orientation if it shifts your either repressed or bi.
>>
>>6340201
W-why?
>>
>>6340198
Depends. Did you do it for money or pleasure?
>>
>>6340208
and I'm saying that therapy/self acceptance/you know all the other parts of social transitioning is freeing you to express yourself. do you think your artificially more straight now?
>>
>>6340192
It's amazing
>>
>>6340214
How exactly is it homophobic to point out how two male-identified (at the time) people having sex is gay? Gay is an adjective anon..
>>
>>6340222
Because I like you a whole lot and honestly the fact that you aren't transbian makes me sad.
>>
>>6340225
It was supposed to be a joke about being in denial, but that's a good point.
>>
>>6340235
O-oh gosh >.<;;;
>>
>>6340242
>>6340242
>>6340242
thing has been done
>>
>>6340234
if your trans then it wasn't gay. probably confusing for that gay boy. because again orientation doesn't change you just realized who you are and now are cosmetically changed.
>>
>>6340234
also explain why we weren't "cured" by mones then. they tried this shit before.
>>
>>6340240
I guess I'm less of a prude than I used to be. Could have sex for money. For the right price. A few zeros above what I'm worth that is.
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>>6340268
Thing is there was no confusion. I was unaware of any attraction to males. I'm very distinctly aware of it now. It's just too much of a change to be down to repression alone.

>>6340277
I also know that they tried this on gay males. I don't know anything about what actual effects that it had on orientation if any. Gay males also aren't trans though, so I know it caused severe depression.

These aren't the same circumstances. Trans people aren't gay, and moreover they're taking hormones voluntarily rather than having them forced on them.
>>
>>6340308
trans people can be straight or they can be gay or they can be bi etc. orientation is separate from gender. repression can make you unaware, how else do some trans "wake up" when they are like 30.
>>
>>6340334
I know this, but you're saying that orientation is a static and unchanging thing, as well as gender being a static and unchanging thing. They're a bit more fluid than that, although not everyone experiences it.
>>
>>6340359
yep they are static. prove to me otherwise. gender queer/bi is static even though they have individual ranges.
>>
>>6340359
keep blaming mones.
>>
>>6340386
I can't prove anything, nor can you t b h. This is entirely a feels argument.

>>6340394
Like, I don't "blame" mones I just feel that my orientation changed on them. If you feel that I was always into guys, then that doesn't bother me. I say hormones changed my orientation because that fits far better with my experience of my orientation. If I was actually repressed, it's inconsistent with what I experienced, but it's not like it changes anything.
>>
>>6340408
im going to stop because you are not getting it and im bored. its not feels because this is biology unlike gender. and yes there is a difference between changing orientation and repression.
>>
>>6340473
If it's biology then show me the numbers. You've just given me feels, in the same way that I've just given you feels.
>>
I wish I couldn't feel anything.
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