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MtFG: Girls und Panzer edition

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What is your tank team?

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PANZER VOR!
Previous thread: >>6292195
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>>6293026
>Tank: M26 pershing
>Crew
>Commander: /k/ordelia
>Driver: Neens
>Radio Op: me
>Loader: Red
>Gunner: Lappanna

Yall r fukt
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>>6293048
>>6293054
Yeah but earlier Shermans were garbage and we'd all be screwed.
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o-oh, ok. um continued from last thread...

>>6292983
>>6292991
>>6293000

;___; o-okie. t-thank you, i feel better now

>>6292993

um i mean i know what causes flare ups so i try to avoid those foods, but i don't think i have CFS. one of my good friends has it and like i'm not that bad.
it's just that i have a family history of lupus and immune issues and idk. that's partly why i kind of thought i might have klinefelter's when i was looking everything up the other day. i meet like 80% of the requirements or signs. i'm just generally fucked up fampai.
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POST PENIS
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>>6293019
If that's the same artist I gotta say they got a really interesting process. Or at least had in the one vid I saw, started with photobashing and ended by painting over 95% of everything.

>>6293034
>Why didn't Samuel
He's a turbobeta with less balls than the girls around here.
>I'm also unsure how to feel about what happened with Arya.
I hate her for it because I totally woulda stuck with a Man the husbando. Will probs result in some interesting stuffs tho so that's nice, better drive the plot forward.
>the alliance between crown and the sparrow is interesting
Huhuhu I'm pretty hype to see how much of that is just Margaery being the talented politician she is. She essentially played out the kings mom and her own parents but attached herself to the church, good shit this is why I love watching these shows.

>>6293045
>I'll get you next time!
Reee this is why I hate chasers.
>Ideal team
I could be your air support fighter pilot but I'm too tall to fit into a cockpit I think. fml
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>>6293042
I hope to become the first great female jazz musician. Just gotta git gud at my chosen instrument.
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>>6293060
>He's a turbobeta with less balls than the girls around here.
I guess but jesus if his wife starts talking about it he should join in
>I hate her for it because I totally woulda stuck with a Man the husbando. Will probs result in some interesting stuffs tho so that's nice, better drive the plot forward.
I just feel like it's kind of a waste of time. Neat we got to watch Arya be beaten for a bunch of episodes in order for NOTHING but her possible death to come of it
>Huhuhu I'm pretty hype to see how much of that is just Margaery being the talented politician she is. She essentially played out the kings mom and her own parents but attached herself to the church, good shit this is why I love watching these shows.
Yeah that's gonna be fun, we all know she hasn't actually converted, she just came up with a way to win.
>air support fighter pilot
Now this is my jam
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>tfw no 50mm shell in my butte
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>>6293069
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=GOODS-00038042
Go get it!
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>>6293069
>50 mm
Uh... No. The largest dilator in my kit scares me and it's not even that big. Plus, butt? Not a place to stick things in...
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>thread full of German tank fetish weaboos
damn didn't know I was in AGP general :^)
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>>6293057

I mean, It's the Firefly or the Cromwell.

If it's the Cromwell I'd include Red as a front gunner.

Or I guess I might include the Tiger 2...

In which case nothing changes.

>>6293056
>pershing
>not a medium
WEAK!

YOU ARE A SLOW TANK
(good taste)

>>6293060
>I could be your air support fighter pilot
I'll make a team for you.

Puru's team

Commander: Edie
Driver:Lallalily
Gunner:Elanna
Radio:Puru
Loader1:Maddie
Loader2:Cyba
Vehicle KV-2
This good?
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Who /virgin/ here?
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>>6293078
I'm AGP as fuck and I regret nothing
>>6293079
>Or I guess I might include the Tiger 2...
That's what I went for yo
>>6293081
Hi yes hello i am virgin here
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who else /leotard/ here :#?
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>>6293075
>88mm
L-lewd

>>6293077
The largest dilator is the best though ;~;
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>>6293087
>That's what I went for yo
And yet you posted a Tiger 1
Shame on you.
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>>6293088
i don't wear women's clothing because i don't want to be a fetishist
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>>6293081
Who /unvirgin/ here?
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>>6293096
Also me
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Gonna ask this here because you guys are the biggest group of girls on 4chan I can think of.

>I get upset whenever I see a woman doing anything.
>I mean literally anything. Even as mundane as using a computer or driving a car.
>It's not anger that's directed at them, either. It's this weird brand of anger pointed at myself.
>But it doesn't dissipate until I find a flaw with how they are doing what they are doing or with their character.

>Whats wrong with me?
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>>6293111
You havent started HRT yet
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>>6293111
Hi.
Welcome to the thread.
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>>6293111
You might be jealous, anon.
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>>6293111
>tfw jealous of girls being girls
feels bad
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>>6293111
Is it truly anger or is it envy?
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>>6293069
Why does everything have to be about sex with you
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>>6292980
/mtfg/ often goes by to fast for me. hard to keep up. Especially if I'm having a bad CFS day.

>>6293026
I'm totally femme. I'd be the saloon girl.

>>6293039
Being a target sucks. My weird youth makes me one.

>>6293058
CFS is in a class of syndroms/diseases that all have very similar symptoms. I'd never had said I had it when 25, but now that I look back, I see all the signs of it starting as early as 14. They weren't very strong then, and didn't show up often, but often enough.

>>6293088
I like them, but to tall for most makers. They stay tucked so I like them. Also they can help with tucking too.

>>6293096
moi...

>>6293111
Git thee to a gender therapist...
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>>6293056
Why am I loader?
>>6293079
I'll gun so hard :3
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>>6293124
>Why am I loader?
Because you're good at handling loads.
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>>6293111
Define upset a bit more, you could be anything from extreme misogynist or a tranny, it's a fine line.

The last part about the flaw thing seems weird to me.
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>>6293124
>I'll gun so hard :3
>jobs of the front gunner: Spotting tanks towards the front, removing infantry threats, mechanical repair and substitute for KO'd crewmates.

A jack of all trades that's surprisingly important.
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>>6293119
Why does it not for you?
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>>6293079
I don't think tanks are my jam, sorry. I'll just be your trusty me109 in the sky even if I have to sit with my knees in my mouth (or one of those sexy me262's unf)

>>6293068
>I guess but jesus if his wife starts talking about it he should join in
It was torment to watch but that's how he is, a bumbling beta oaf who's less man than his waifu ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>I just feel like it's kind of a waste of time. Neat we got to watch Arya be beaten for a bunch of episodes in order for NOTHING but her possible death to come of it
But she's a sneaky assassin now and supposedly good at fighting blind 'n shit. We'll see, maybe she learned more than what was shown.

>>6293077
>Plus, butt? Not a place to stick things in..
mfw no face
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>>6293126
I can take any load :3
I like big payloads!
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Hmm... If I loose my legal gender change case it will be over. If I don't pass in judge's eyes (or one of his medical experts) it will be fucking over.

Permanently Male. Till I die. I wont be able to change my name either.

This stuff is scary and really stressful /mtfg/ - how to deal with it?
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who wants a hug?
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>>6293124
Because kaylee is the logical choice for gunner desu
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>>6293139
move out of shitty Poland
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>>6293134
Come on Elanna, you havn't posted a crew yet!

>>6293117
Or you Charlotte!

>>6293135
>I don't think tanks are my jam, sorry. I'll just be your trusty me109 in the sky
I can except it.
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>>6293119
She's at that age...
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>>6293144
How? I don't have passport yet because I don't want to have any history there.

How it's easier to change legal gender being in a foreign country?
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>>6293139
You're in the EU, iirc? You can always appeal to to the European Human Rights Court. Long and expensive, but they have a track record of overturning national courts' refusal to change trans people's idea. So, it'd be a lot better if the judged gave your request the greenlight but if he doesn't, it's not quite over.
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Never posted on here, I guess I'm not even really asking for advice or anything. Not even really sure where to post this, I kinda just wanted to get some shit on my chest.
>meet cute girl
>claim to be straight
>girl says all the right things
>she's fucking perfect
>I get her number and call her the next day
>we go out again and everything is amazing
>never felt this good being with someone
>girl feels the same way
>girl turns out to be guy
>not even on hormones, just that effeminate, small, skinny etc. etc.
>not even pissed at this point, seriously like this guy
>I didn't think I was gay but holy shit he's perfect
>he hates being a guy
>ends up having some serious issues, guy is clearly going through shit
>i tell him it's okay to be a dude, especially since I like him either way
>this manages to calm him down, and for the first time he seems to be happy or at least doesn't care he's a dude
>we have sex and everything is going well
>we go out a few times, this time he's wearing guys clothes
>he's clearly uncomfortable
>I tell him it's cool if he wants to change
>he does
>it only makes him more uncomfortable
>no idea what the fuck to do
>few months have passed now
>guy is still confused
>he ends up asking me what I prefer
>i try to answer in a more general way, "what ever you do, it doesn't matter, I like spending time with you"
>he gets upset
>i tell him I like him more as a guy
>seems even more confused
>seriously in love with him at this point
>close friend says I should get out because he's crazy, but I seriously care for him
>he's also been through a lot of shitty shit in his past that I want to be something good for him
>when he's not freaking out he's literally perfect
>it's been a few weeks now and he's stayed in boy mode all the time and hasn't seemed confused or upset
>actually seems happy
>kinda worried that I'm fucking him over and he'll hate me later on down the track for saying I prefer him as a guy
Sorry about the rant. Or /blog/ post.
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>>6293147
I-I dunno who to choose ;~;
I don't know shit about tanks
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what do butts taste like?
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>>6293147
Because I don't actually care about guns or tanks
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>>6293132
I can do that!
I might get overwhelmed and cry tho
>>6293143
I want Kaylee to fuck me in a tank
>>6293139
I'm sorry, that sounds so scary
I hope you pass!
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>>6293116
>>6293117
>>6293118
I don't know.
I can't put emotions into words.

>>6293128
Like there was a girl I worked with at uni who was both smart and could be considered conventionally attractive.
I tried to seem nice, but I literally hated her with every piece of my existence.
I had to be better than her at something, but naturally I wasn't. I couldn't handle it.

I got really petty at times, and for chunks of the term I would avoid class and ignore group emails and such just to avoid any contact with her.
It made me upset when I realised that her being physically sick actually gave me relief. I try not to think about it.

>>6293113
>>6293115
>>6293121
Really though?
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>>6293156
Well polish trans sources says that if you loose it's over and EU can't to shit in this case. But I hope they are wrong. Good damn it I want female name. I can even fucking rent an apartment now.
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>>6293167
this desu, we dont want to kill people, we want to sex them
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My parents have been watching this one American soap opera, and one of the main characters is transgender. After hearing the things my parents say about her, I'm not so sure if I'll come out to them anymore...
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>>6293135
>It was torment to watch but that's how he is, a bumbling beta oaf who's less man than his waifu ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oh well. Not looking forward to his death anyway.
>But she's a sneaky assassin now and supposedly good at fighting blind 'n shit. We'll see, maybe she learned more than what was shown.
True, and all of her fighting training was from the girl that now wants to kill her, so Arya knows what to expect.
>>6293172
Does this only happen with females? And not just everyone that's better than you in general?
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>>6293172
>I tried to seem nice, but I literally hated her with every piece of my existence.
>I had to be better than her at something, but naturally I wasn't. I couldn't handle it.
this is, like, stereotypical envy
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>>6293174
EU probably can't do shit but since you live in EU you should be able to move to another EU country, at least if you have some money saved up
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>>6293167
this, I'm kinda sick of all the tank and gun shit tbhon-est
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>>6293177
What do they say?
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>>6293182
But I would still be stuck with male ID and male name.
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>>6293081
me
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>>6293177
I mean...alien concepts are always funny to people who can't relate. It might be different when it's their own child. You know them better though.
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>>6293189
You could apply for their respective trans care thingy and get them changed
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I'm into this new foundation but idk what I think about the lip gloss. Thoughts?
Also
>I'm a fat hon
>ffs when
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>>6293169
>I might get overwhelmed and cry tho
It'll be like that movie fury then.

>>6293111
I used to be somewhat the same way and still am I guess, just less intense. Just mad jelly and somewhat bitter but I try to use it as a fuel for self improvement.

>>6293150
>How it's easier to change legal gender being in a foreign country?
Because there are a lot more progressive countries out there. Probs some of them would treat you better even if you aren't a citizen and would provide you with correct ID card or whatever?

>>6293180
>so Arya knows what to expect.
Reincorporate fencing tricks by his late Bravosian swordmaster, maybe they work against her better than against the Hound lol. Or maybe it's spy vs spy scheming to get each other killed.

>>6293177
All hope is not lost, peoples attitudes can change quite drastically when it's someone they know and love. Hope things work out for you either way.

>>6293081
Damn right I am.
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>>6293081
define /virgin/
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>>6293163
You can learn. They're surprisingly diverse
>>6293167
BUT THEY'RE PRETTY!!!

(besides, there's the sentinel tank, and it suits you perfectly. It has a schlong!
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>>6293193
morning, kit :3
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>>6293205
SIRONA
do you play COH2?
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>>6293180
>Does this only happen with females?
Pretty much.
I have no problems being inferior to men.

I'm typically inferior to most men and women, but I only ever get upset when being inferior to women.
I'm probably a turbomisogynist or something.

>>6293181
>>6293202
What does that mean then?
Can I grow out of it? I can't go through life hating 40% of the population.
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>>6293205
the problem is that I don't care enough. They're just tanks to me.
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>>6293201
I want to hug you. I can see you work so hard on yourself.
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>>6293212
You're a girl, welcome to the club.
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>>6293193
Hey kit!>>6293048
What's your tank team?

>>6293210
>COH2?
I do not, but I might consider it.

>>6293213
>They're just tanks to me.
Pic related.
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>>6293058
hey! sorry I didn't respond last thread, got caught up in some stuff.
hanging out with someone sounds good! It'll help take your mind off things maybe <3

and I'm doing ok, at least a lot better than saturday. I'm starting to realize I get very upset at night and I'm wondering what might be causing it or if I'm just a crazy emotional wreck (or both)
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>>6293201
complimentfishing.jpg

You look fine.
I see what you mean about the colour of the lip stuff though.
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>>6293183
Yeah, like, idk is talking about guns just an American passtime? I'm not sure why guns come up so much in a trans thread :/

>>6293205
Military history is cool. Military hardware is less cool unless it flies ;~;
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>>6293186
>"look how butch she is! "
>" look how big her shoulders are! "
>"look how big her hands are! "
>" wow I feel sorry for her husband when he finds out that she's a man"

They say stuff like that throughout every episode..
>>6293196
>>6293202
Thanks, well, I guess we'll have to see. They will find out eventually but I probably won't formally come out to them. It will probably just happen.
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>>6293202
I cry very easily
How are you puru?
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>>6293224
>unless it flies ;~;
Which plane?
I wanna know.
(if it's not the beaufighter I'm going to judge you)
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>>6293139
nikky
you gotta marry me then you can live here

it's easier to change that stuff in my country

[spoiler]also you could reward me with cuddles and stuff[/spoiler]
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>>6293212
>Can I grow out of it?
I wish.

>>6293220
that was pretty cute

>>6293224
h-hi

>>6293225
>They say stuff like that throughout every episode..
tha... that's awful...
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>>6293220
>I do not, but I might consider it.
If your PC can handle it come join the fun~
>>6293225
Have you talked to them about it?
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>>6293201
Yeah, the fuchsia gloss clashes with both your hair and top. A matte burgundy lipstick would work better.
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is it ok if i don't always feel 100% female btw <__<
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>>6293233
>that was pretty cute
Tonks are cute!

Look at the frog eyes on the KV-2!

It's like a big puppy!

>>6293235
>come join the fun~
But I'm playing World of Tanks!

I need to get my Cromwell!
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>>6293237
P-pls respond
>>6293201
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>>6293237
considering males can't really feel female, yes i think its ok
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>>6293237
yes
because you are at least a bit attack helicopter
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>>6293237
I think so. I woke up today and had a weird moment.
>I feel like a girl
>But I am not one
>I am transitioning
>But I don't feel like it
>>6293239
You can get many Cromwells in COH2!
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>>6293222
>>6293236
That's what I thought ;~; I need to take it back and get another nude
>>6293215
Thanks, I think?
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>>6293237
I don't think anyone purely feels one gender all the time. Most people are just less aware of those feelings than we are...
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>>6293212
>Can I grow out of it?
Transitioning is helping me but you gotta figure out what's the best way to help yourself.

>>6293228
My neck hurts so much from fixing my posture I haven't had time to feel sorry for myself so pretty good :D You doing good?

>>6293237
No you lose your trans license and have to take T injections now. But seriously at my best days I feel like maybe 3% female physically
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>>6293246
>You can get many Cromwells in COH2!
Nuuuuuuu!

I neeed it!

Come join me instead! I play on the North American servers!

>>6293246
>>I feel like a girl
>>But I am not one
>>I am transitioning
>>But I don't feel like it

>tfw you're not really transitioning yet.

I must be patient... so patient...
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>>6293224
no idea, I used to assume it was autism from experience in other communities, but who knows.
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>>6293231
I'm really not into Roleplaying or other dreamy thinking. Why do you leading me on anon? We'll never be together ;_;
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>>6293237
no you are AGP fetishist confirmed.
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>>6293258
Bong here.
It's not just an American thing. Get any group of autists together and the conversation will inevitably turn to guns and planes, given enough time.

[spoiler]I always thought it was dumb af[/spoiler]
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>>6293256
I just feel like shit.
I hate my face.
But I'm happy to be playing civ5
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>>6293201

i really like the shade, but i don't think it goes with your current hair color as much tbdesu c:

>>6293243
>>6293245
>>6293246
>>6293255

i just like don't always feel like ... a trans woman? i guess? idk
i talked to faye and my other friends irl about this a few times now where like i don't feel like i look like a woman at all. i think because of makeup and how i style myself i look beautiful to select people, but it's just manmade beauty. i look androgynous af and i feel like i'm a prime example of a person who doesn't pass, but looks pretty. which i'm totally okay with and i identified as genderqueer for the first like....3 years of my transition. because i don't really feel like just a woman and i don't see myself that way at all. but i feel like i'm not supposed to feel that way ;___; i was just reminded of it because i saw the /androgynous general/ and i was like 'wow dat me'

>>6293256
>>6293262

;____________________;
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>>6293230
Depends on the era, every major conflict has its own plane that was a cut above. Assuming ww2:
The spitfire and mustang were both pretty crazy, the fact that the mustang could reach transonic speeds (and usually crashed as a result) was pretty mind boggling for the time. Then there was the bf-109, its propeller was so big and had so much torque that jamming the throttle on the ground could flip them right over. Idk, there's more planes from the era that I like, but those are the fighters that have some romance around them. I at least sort of understand the romance around planes, pilots had balls of steel, and they're basically the modern equivalent of knights in the air. Tanks or guns don't make any sense to me though.

>>6293233
How r u this morning Charlotte?
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>>6293250
>Thanks, I think?
You thought that was sarcasm or something?
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>>6293261
A flight to here from plumbingland is 800€ and the visa is 4.200€.
If you let me work to make the money, I can pay that.
I can't promise it will be quick though.
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>>6293263
My 1 college course of psychology leads me to suspect it's the unconscious inferiority of the beta autist in physical strength, leading them to fetishize weapons as a way to rise above the alpha chads
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>>6293265
>but it's just manmade beauty
http://imgur.com/gallery/ynkv8
Don't be silly Edie
>i look androgynous af and i feel like i'm a prime example of a person who doesn't pass, but looks pretty.
That's the dysphoria speaking, you really do pass.
>i identified as genderqueer for the first like....3 years of my transition. because i don't really feel like just a woman and i don't see myself that way at all. but i feel like i'm not supposed to feel that way ;___; i was just reminded of it because i saw the /androgynous general/ and i was like 'wow dat me'
Be what you wanna be and what you feel like. Whatever makes you the happiest. You don't have to feel like a woman, especially if you don't.
The entire concept of "feeling" a gender is a bit convoluted and silly, don't you think? I mean, somehow we know we are what we are but I sure don't always wake up and say I SURE FEEL FEMALE TODAY. I just am one and I know that and that's okay.
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>>6293273
I'm pretty good. I actually had a nice talk with my mom, where she apologized for the first time in my memory.

How about you?
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>>6293263
>Get any group of autists together and the conversation will inevitably turn to guns and planes,

I just think they're pretty. Having been checked for autism, aspergers, and more mental health issues than I can list, I'm gonna call you on it.

I can sperg out on cooking just as much as I can on military hardware, or any other hobby I take a passing interest in. I'm fairly sure it's a nerd thing, and the nerd community has a higher proportion of autistic tendencies.

But then, we're going into the logical fallacy of "correlation does not imply causality."

>>6293273
>but those are the fighters that have some romance around them. I at least sort of understand the romance around planes, pilots had balls of steel, and they're basically the modern equivalent of knights in the air.

So you like the planes because they took balls and could do tricks?

I'll have to track down the story of the tank crew who discovered that they were in a training tank (read:no armour, the gun was next to useless and it moved 3 times as fast) halfway through the war, and then refused to use anything else because it had seen them through 8 or 9 scouting missions that would otherwise have cost them their lives. They all survived the war in that tank too.
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>tfw this does not count as a hit because overwatch has a good netcode

>>6293264
>I just feel like shit.
>I hate my face.
Escapism into vidya works I guess, I feel the same way all the time.
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>>6293281
>http://imgur.com/gallery/ynkv8
most look better without the make up, and the ones that do look better still look bad...
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>>6293206
hi !!!!

>>6293220

umm sry i was away, i'll try and think of a team rq
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>>6293265
Well, you look and feel like a woman to me, so I have no problems with you calling yourself a transwoman if that's how you feel, and I think you know how harsh I can be about that. However, if you feel it doesn't describe you, it's ok. You don't have to conform to a narrative that isn't your life, or to words you feel constraining. Gender is how people see you, but your identity and the way you feel about it are yours, and yours only. And I know you're ready to be yourself, no matter how intimidating it may be.
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>>6293288
>Escapism into vidya works I guess
>I feel the same way all the time.
then it doesn't fucking work
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>>6293294
>i'll try and think of a team
Goooood. GOOOOOD.
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>>6293273
>Tanks or guns don't make any sense to me though.
People like different things. I don't know why I like what I like, I just kinda do. In a thread where people talk about anything and everything when you have people with common interests it's bound to come up. It doesn't have to make sense, and some of what other people like doesn't to me even. Idk, I don't feel like it's a big deal, nothing is stopping anyone from talking about other stuff too.
>>6293292
Even if they still look bad there's at least an improvement with makeup and all that. If it's something okay for cis women why can't it be okay for edie? A lot of beauty is work and she should know this by now.
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>>6293219
>>6293256
I'll try and speak to the counselor we have at the uni, but the fact that you have to ring them scares me a little.
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>>6293297
But I don't worry about it when I'm playing. It works as escapism.
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>>6293280
that does sound pretty first year, since you're touching the most superficial aspects.
you have to consider that there are elements like
>a bast amount of knowledge that can make you feel superior in a measurable way
>a direct appeal to detail oriented observation
>an excuse for social interaction based on specific stuff
>no biological complex data that you have to ponder about
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>>6293287
No, I like planes because they're easier to separate from the pain and bloodshed of war and therefore easier to attach some amount of romance to. Instead of being down on the ground, among the explosions, blood and death, they're several thousand feet above and locked in one on one combat. Then there's the fact that they fly, and at one point I wanted to be a pilot.

That tank crew, while impressive, is very hard to separate from the fact that they probably looked hundreds of men right in the eye before mowing them down.

>>6293284
Nice, sounds like a productive morning ^^
I'm gud, just about to fire off another job application, checking on the status of my order of drugsss
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>>6293279
Or maybe you could fly to me for a vacation so we could have a some life together to start with.

Do you have any photos of yourself? What's your name/nickname?
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>>6293305
There's nothing to be afraid of, anon.
>>6293308
Yea videogame escapism used to help me get by a lot
Now I barely play them but I kinda want to later desu
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>>6293300
I don't have anything against make up, it's just that most of them look like atractive females without it.

>>6293311
but there's an aspect of craftmaship in shooting people with a rifle.
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>>6293311
O__O

That... is a fair point.

I'll drop the topic.
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>>6293281
>http://imgur.com/gallery/ynkv8
>Don't be silly Edie
>tfw standards of beauty come from the porn industry

>... maybe porn isn't super-healthy for society...
I was going to say that, but then I remembered that the closest thing to legitimate sex-ed that we have in America is porn.
Thanks, retarded parents that don't want to "ruin" their children.

>>6293294
How's you?
>application
that reminds me, I should probably send another one off myself
>drugggzz
how expensive is something like LSD or MDMA?
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ummm who wants to join my tank squad....


asking for a friend....
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>>6293305
just hope their bell rang.
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>>6293319
Ill join!!!
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>>6293305
>the fact that you have to ring them scares me a little
I got a massive phobia/mental block when it comes to calling people. I don't know why.

>>6293313
>Now I barely play them
After I'm bored of overwatch I'm probably going to take a break from them again. I got really bad habit of overdoing the escapism.
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>watching animu
>police superintendent of my age
>special detective ten years younger than me
>assistan a year younger
>son of a CEO dealing with business in hs
i just wanted escapism, not feeling like I wasted my life...
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>>6293319
me! me!
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>>6293319
t-tell your friend that someone said Charlotte would like to join...
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>>6293319
Well, if we're allowing inter tank crews...

I wouldn't mind....
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>>6293281

idk, mAYBE. i just like... i see a woman a lot of the time because of hormones redistributing my fat, but i don't feel like one most of the time.
the only reason i even started identifying as a trans woman is because it felt more accurate than being a man, and i do feel better on HRT, but if i'm being honest i feel more like an androgyne. but that's so tumblr snowflake that i don't ever say that and that's why i never used to talk about being pansexual either ;____; CAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE A SNOWFLAKE DESU

>>6293296

idk i just don't want ppl to make fun of me and stuff for feeling the way that i do. i don't feel like a femboy or w/e or a man but i don't feel like a woman either. i'm just like....this thing in the middle that just wants to be pretty. idc about how i'm gendered really or how people perceive my gender. but society basically says that wanting to look the way i do and how i act and talk and everything is female so that's what box i was told to go into and then i just went with it desu
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>>6293326
I have a strong aversion to phones, but it's a result of compounded trauma from occupational burnout. It's still bad, but I don't jump and break into cold sweat whenever I hear a phone ringing anymore.
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>>6293327
>friend is my age
>over 2 years hrt
>a nurse
>i'm almost 5 months hrt
>left college 3 times
>work at a grocery store
>>6293333
Edie, don't call it snowflake. Just call it you and own it. Anyone with an issue with it can eat shit tbqh.
What do you feel the happiest as? What suits you the best? If you're androgyne then be that. Your gender doesn't matter to the people around you, what matters is that you're still edie.
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>>6293324
>>6293329
>>6293330
>>6293332


OK !!! my team is;

Red
Dana
Charlotte
Sirona
Kit

THANK YOU GIRLS !


IDK which tank to pick tho .__.;;;
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>>6293333
You're Edie. No one can take that away from you. And little boxes don't matter as much as they seem. You're smart enough to think and live outside of them.

http://youtu.be/XUwUp-D_VV0
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>>6293315
Where's the craftsmanship? It's a tool explicitly designed for killing. You aim the barrel, pull the trigger, and someone with a family dies. Often they never saw it coming, and never had a chance.

>>6293318
Drugs are honestly pretty cheap. MDMA is like 30 dollars a gram, LSD is like 5 dollars a hit on blotter.
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>>6293157
Why do you need to be gay? She looked female to you. ;) Sounds like you are really bisexual.

She needs to see a gender therapist and start transition. Sounds like she will be much happier that way.

I kinda had similar happen to me when young. A lesbian gal I was working with asked me out, only to find out I was a crossdressing boy. We became friends, and she helped me a lot. Sadly she was heavy into drugs, and with her my habits spiraled out of control.

>>6293237
Yes!!! I have some andro and masculine in me. By and large I'm mostly feminine. All of us are somewhere on the gender spectrum. Most are not at the ends. In fact there are very few who are.

>>6293265
Many girls feel fake after they put the makeup on.

I've sometimes wondered if you, and a couple other trips, did like me and went overboard and went after anything that affirmed one's femininity. I became a total slut for 8 months. Then I became a courtesan as that was a type of affirmation of my femininity. My clients treated me like a lady. Yeah, sex work can be more than just a means for making ends meet. Or maybe the ends are not bills and money. Anyways, something to think about.

>>6293333
I too am wondering if I really am androgynous, but wanting a pussy instead of a dick. Gender isn't straight forward male/female. It's muddled with many aspects that all can be somewhere between fully masculine and fully feminine, and they don't have to agree.
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>>6293312
>Do you have any photos of yourself?
Good god no.
That was the hidden catch.
My face breaks cameras :P
That's not a joke either. I've genuinely had a cheap 35-70mm lens break while taking my photo when on school camp as a kid.

>maybe you could fly to me for a vacation so we could have a some life together
That sounds like a wonderful idea.
It probably won't be happening soon though, because I still need to save lots of money.
Maybe once I finish my degree and go into proper full time employment!
I'm half way through now.
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>>6293341
Panzer IV H?

It's pretty good...
but take a look around and see if there's any you like.
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>>6293339

i feel androgyne and/or genderqueer ;_; but if that's the case then am i allowed to be here?
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>>6293347
>tfw this argument makes you want to restart sports fencing
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>>6293313
>There's nothing to be afraid of, anon.
except this: >>6293326

If I needed to make a phonecall to get a free $5000, I would probably flip a coin as to whether I'd do it or not.
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>>6293336
I actually dont mind answering phonecalls as I can usually just say "mhm?" and let them do the talking. I hate calling because it's putting me on the spot and I have to introduce myself and explain why I'm calling and stuff, extremely uncomfortable and will go to ridiculous lengths to avoid having to call places. Like with the military I got convicted for being a deserter because I didn't call there to explain my absence (I had school documents to prove im in the middle of studies to excuse me) or sort my things out until my service had started. Well it's a bit more of a long story than that and it wasn't all about me not calling there but a lot of the trouble could have been avoided with a few phonecalls.
>tfw still haven't sorted out the military service and have just postponed it for the last 4 years
Suffering.

>>6293353
There are no rules who can and can not post here dw about it.
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>>6293353
it's the progesterone talking.
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i thought girls und panzer was a bretty fun animu
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>>6293353
>genderqueer
better than chasers
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>>6293353
You kidding? Of course you're allowed here. Why let us decide what gender you are?
>>6293347
There's a lot more that goes into it than that.
>>6293358
Could you have a friend or family member call for you?
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>>6293352
that looks good desu.

most of the war will be spent pillaging local towns with pharmacies for HRT and fuel, while long cold nights will be spent cuddling together for warmth.
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>>6293353
Obviously. You're part of the furniture, here, as we say in France. ;)
/mtfg/ wouldn't be quite /mtfg/ without you. You're Dollface/Edie and you belong here, no matter what label you feel most comfortable with at a given time.
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>>6293362
Hiya!

Who'd your crew be?
>>6293026
>MTFG! POST YOUR TANK CREW AND TANK. GIRLS UND PANZER RULES:
>The only vehicles allowed to participate are the following :
>Vehicles whose design was completed before August 15, 1945
>Vehicles that had begun prototype trials by the aforementioned date
>Vehicles whose construction was planned using only materials available before the aforementioned date
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>>6293347
>5 dollar lsd

You're doing nbomes.
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>>6293368
>most of the war will be spent pillaging local towns with pharmacies for HRT and fuel, while long cold nights will be spent cuddling together for warmth.
:D

LIVING THE DREAM
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>>6293341
yay!

>>6293347
>LSD is like 5 dollars a hit on blotter
hoooly shit that's way cheaper than I thought
what are the normal doses for MDMA?

>>6293353
>but if that's the case then am i allowed to be here?
Why wouldn't you be allowed here?
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>>6293372
i dont know anything about tanks so idk lols (v^_^)v
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>>6293368
>most of the war will be spent pillaging local towns with pharmacies for HRT and fuel, while long cold nights will be spent cuddling together for warmth.


Is it too late to sign up for this crew?
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>>6293341
GIANT AMERICAN COCK

the T-30 would be good
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>>6293353
i'm a cis guy (well probably not lol) and i'm allowed here
why would you not be?
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>>6293341
>>6293368

>implying red won't rape all the other girls night 1
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>>6293377
>Is it too late to sign up for this crew?
If we roll T-30 then yes
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>>6293366
I'm even less likely to get them to make the call.

I've found an email address, I'll try that.
If they ring me, I should be okay.
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>>6293353
yes!!!
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>>6293376
>>6293377
Ufufu, you have your first crewmate already!

Pick 5 and then ask them what tank they want?
That's what Kit did!

>>6293368
>most of the war
And now I want to create a thread on /tg/ to see if we can't develop a setting that's a cross between MtFG, GuP and Advance wars Days of Ruin...
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>>6293379
I think T-30 looks good actually. I trust Dana's choice of transport since she has a nice baiku
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>>6293382
>Implying we wouldn't enjoy it.
It's not rape if it's consensual.
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>>6293366
Idk, I guess enlighten me then. Where's the artistry in guns?

>>6293373
Maybe. I suspect they're weak tabs, but I havn't bought from this guy before. Guess I'll find out when they get here, nbomes are pretty easy to tell apart from acid from everything I've heard

>>6293375
That's cheaper than average for LSD, so anon may be correct that I've bought RCs. Normally I've paid more like 8-10 dollars/hit
100mg-120mg is a pretty standard dose for MDMA, so a gram can give you 8-10 doses. Assuming you're a lightweight, that's $3 per dose of MDMA.

>>6293357
Fencing seems pretty neat, hard af though ;~;
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>tfw your dad comes back after 3 days at the lakehouse and talks at me about "contributing for the family"
I am so fucking done with him and this obnoxious shitty family. Everything went to shit when he remarried.
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>>6293349

i mean i'm a super feminine person so all of this stuff kind of just came naturally to me, but i don't feel 100% like a woman or whatever. i just feel like something different and like not one way or the other. and that's maybe why a part of me never cared about being misgendered or about being perceived as a woman and why it was so easy for me to just dive into presenting this way? idk

>>6293359
>>6293365
>>6293366
>>6293371
>>6293375
>>6293381
>>6293394

o-ok... idk ;___; cause idk. like when i was first joining the fb trans groups i'm in it was literally like 'TRANS WOMEN ONLY' and like in mtfg it seemed very trans women or occasional men who liked us and that was it and idk. I WAS JUST WONDERING IDK ;____;

>>6293361

i think the prog makes me more honest and emotional but i've felt like this for a rly long time and that's why i presented and identified as genderqueer for so long. it's not like it changes anything, i'm not like femboy mode and being like CALL ME THEY/THEM W/E like idgaf about any of that and being gendered as a woman is ok but idk i just thought i would ask and talk about it and yknow idk... ya.
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>>6293402
Are drugs really this cheap? Tfw no drugs.

>>6293407
Famfams with their expectations and demands how you need to live your life is the worst. Have a hug qt platy
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>>6293402
>Idk, I guess enlighten me then. Where's the artistry in guns?
>One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through the enemy's own rifle scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.
>During a volunteer mission days before the end of his first deployment, he crawled over 1,500 yards of field to shoot a high-ranking NVA officer.[19] He was not informed of the details of the mission until he accepted it.[15] This effort took four days and three nights, without sleep, of constant inch-by-inch crawling.[19] Hathcock said he was almost stepped on as he lay camouflaged with grass and vegetation in a meadow shortly after sunset.[2] At one point he was nearly bitten by a bamboo viper, but had the presence of mind to avoid moving and giving up his position.[19] As the officer exited his encampment, Hathcock fired a single shot that struck the officer in the chest, killing him.
It may not be art you like, but there is a certain art to war. Why people enjoy it so much is something I don't have an answer to. I'd like to learn more about that desu.
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>>6293353
yes
but only if you be my *f
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>>6293357
>>tfw this argument makes you want to restart sports fencing
>Fencing seems pretty neat, hard af though ;~;
>>6293402
I did fencing in middle school. It demands much more strenght and violence than you would think. You're literally trying to hit stuff out of other people's hands as hard as you can before stabbing them as hard as you can.
Doesn't hurt too much tho
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>>6293414
this is the most autistic thing I've read in months
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>>6293414
I was the anon that brought it up and it was a joke about justifying murder because you defend it as artistic and personal.
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Oh cool people are over, time to pray nobody notices my boobs, especially when they hug me.
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>>6293402
It kind of becomes second nature with practice, the hardest at first is really remembering the 8 parry positions. It also forces you to be aware of your posture, steps, etc which is neat.

>>6293395
>ywn grow bioidenticals in the ruins of the capitalist world
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>>6293412

Drugs are pretty cheap if you aren't trying to be in an altered state 24/7. I only go on two psychedelic trips a year, max, which costs me less than fifty bucks annually, and I smoke weed every night but spend about 60 or 70 bucks a month max.
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>>6293402
>Assuming you're a lightweight
literally and figuratively, yes
fun drugs are cheaper than casual drugs, I guess.

>>6293407
>talks at me about "contributing for the family"
hey, my dad did the same thing a few weeks ago. It wasn't fun.

>>6293410
It's fine. You should really call a psychiatrist if you can afford it, because this is definitely the depression.
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>>6293414
>Why people enjoy it so much is something I don't have an answer to
Personally I enjoy it for the technological advancements. I mean, without ww1 and ww2 arms race aviation probably wouldn't be anywhere near where it is now. It's neat to see mankind develop so rapidly even if the motivations are not something I can get behind.

>>6293429
I'd want to do just trip and see how its like.

>>6293425
Being tall sorta helps me with this as I have to lean over to hug shorter people and that avoids the chest-to-chest contact.
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>>6293425
>hugging people who you dont want knowing you have boobs
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>>6293410
post poogina.
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>>6293437
I FORGOT THEY'RE GETTING BIG
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>>6293414
I still see murder in the name of king and country. Skillful murder, but murder nonetheless. Moreover, sniping is probably the worst case example of striking someone down without them ever seeing it coming, or without ever having a chance.

>>6293417
Yeah, I know it requires peak physical fitness and really fast reflexes, just never tried though because I've never been that fit ;~;

>>6293430
Drugs in general are pretty cheap, especially if you get them off the internet. When you take out the middleman (the street level dealer) drugs are actually not that expensive, and even then the chemist is still making a massive profit.

>>6293426
It does sound neat. How does one get into it though?
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>>6293440
>GETTING BIG
Is it the progestrone, please tell me it's the progestrone? Mail literally can not come fast enough
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>>6293437
>hug friend at uni
>he has hidden boobs
>i've noticed
>he's noticed that i've noticed
most awkward feeling desu
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also mb this is a stupid question to ask but has anyone here tried purifica mirifica?? or is it just a meme??

i dont want to be an ironing board .__.;;

>>6293437
>>6293440
>>6293425
>>6293445


;____;
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>>6293412
thanks for the sentiment, I really just want to grab all my things and go drive far away and never come back though
>>6293430
it gets more and more suffocating every time it happens, one day I'm gonna fucking snap
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>>6293444
A lot of sports centers have fencing clubs; some of them more official than others. It's basically showing up and registering. They'll probably have the kit to borrow for newbies (although my second club's fencing master was all but demanding we eventually buy our own stuff if we intended to be remotely serious, which makes sense but can get a bit pricey)
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>>6293402
>Where's the artistry in guns?
I agree... Give me a camera and paintbrush...

>>6293425
>>6293440
LOL
last week I had a long time friend hug me, and she looked down at my chest after... Kinda funny.

Before recently I never hugged. For many years I had hard spots under each nipple, and people sometimes noticed. Hard to explain away.
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>>6293415

y-you're friend?

>>6293425

GL LMAO!! <3

>>6293430

the thing is tho i just wanna be like a really beautiful person, but i don't want to be cis or strive for that really? i almost just want to transcend gender. where it doesn't matter what i am. very ruby rose where it's like i am kind of both male and female but regardless ppl would want to slam i guess lmao. and part of what gets to me sometimes is like trying to fit into a box that i never wanted to really fit into, so
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>>6293448
You're not drinking enough cum, that's probably why they are so small.
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>>6293448
>i dont want to be an ironing board .__.;;
Hey I feel ya, I got dented ribs so I got -½ a breast on one side.

>>6293451
>I really just want to grab all my things and go drive far away and never come back though
>tfw want to do this
>no car
>cant drive
>there's sea to every direction except russia
KILL ME
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>>6293448
PM is a complete meme, at most it will give you the same effects as being on low-dose spiro.

(I wish phytos weren't a meme, because my favorite fruit is god tier for phytos)
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>>6293444
>I know it requires peak physical fitness and really fast reflexes
sort of, just as much as any sport I'd say. the biggest issue is that you have to be much more violent than in some team sport since your sole objective is hitting the other person in ways that would really hurt someone else.
I was fast enough and could respond, but I didn't have it in me to put that much strenght into hitting stuff, I'm too submisive for that...
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>>6293457
>GL LMAO!! <3
BAGGY SHIRT AND BAD POSTURE TIME, CANT SEE A THING
>>6293453
>last week I had a long time friend hug me, and she looked down at my chest after... Kinda funny.
God I hope that is not about to happen
>>6293445
>Is it the progestrone, please tell me it's the progestrone? Mail literally can not come fast enough
Progesterone could be fucking my tits up because I'm taking it so early so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t348e24vDyA
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>>6293460
:(
I wish there was someway I could help you
like legit if you were in the US or Canada I'd come pick you up and we could ride off into the unknown together
The worlds still quite a large place though :/
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>>6293464
oh ;_;
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>>6293473
sorry kittu
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>>6293457
>y-you're friend?
that's close enough!
i accept you now :3
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>>6293458
also im like 99.9999999% sure you are making fun of me
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I survived! probably didnt get kicked out either
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Why is Pizza so good girls? I just made a Digornio's pizza with my mom, and oh it was so good.
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>>6293483
why were you at risk of being kicked out?
of your home or college?
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>>6293466
Oh, well then in that case maybe it wouldn't be the kind of sport that I could get good at. I find it really hard to hit people or do anything like that. ;~;

Guess my sport of choice will remain skiing.

>>6293452
Yeah, I know it's different but my ex just got into kendo and had to buy his own equipment. The cost is pretty prohibitive.

>>6293485
Sodium

>>6293483
Grats sophie, what did you survive?
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>>6293351
Well anon, let me now if you be ready. But I'm actively looking for a bf so you know...
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>>6293489
>I find it really hard to hit people or do anything like that. ;~;
most 1 vs 1 sports are like that, it sucks...
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>>6293457
iktf on gender. At this point I just know I don't fit in with either males or females, just that I'm generally much closer to females. Sadly my life isn't giving me the experiences I need to figure things out properly. Why do I have to be such an agoraphobe? ;___;

>>6293467
>God I hope that is not about to happen
It's a way to come out...

>>6293485
Pizza is the food of the gods.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9COa7nuQGPE

OMG I want to move like her!!~ Any one from here got dance lessons? Dose that even work?
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>>6293497
that's just a thick lasagna
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>>6293499
pffftt she dances like a hon.
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>>6293505
Post something else then anon.
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>>6293499
I want to see kickboxers with those shoes

>>6293505
>imagining a 50 y/o man in a wig and his wife's dress dancing like that
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>>6293440
protip: dont hug anybody ever

>>6293443
excuse u im not fat anymore

>>6293447
lmaooooo
thats awkward
u should come up behind them and whisper "i know what u are" in their ear and just smile at them when they turn around
will scare the shit out of them probably tbdesu

>>6293448
lol no its fake
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>>6293478
>>6293448

do NOT take herbal estrogens when on actual E. your development is limited by your receptors, if you have too much shitty E in your body the good E is less effective.
also, herbal E effects is 99% meme anyway

>>6293489
class v_v
Idk if the type exists outside of germany, its essentially a collection of sessions that arent connected directly but count as one class. everyone can attend but you need to be at least halfway through your masters to get points for it. its pretty highlevel, usually like 2-6 profs are present, a few phd havers, a few PHD candidates and about half are peasants like me (e.g. pretty close to masters students)
its pretty intense

>>6293488
out of the above class. theyre connected to all the others I have this term. if I fail one, I fail the whole term, and I cant afford that, so mightve lead to me dropping out.
even if they kicked me out they wouldve let me back in if I asked though, its just a very unfun conversation to have.
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>>6293510
>"i know what u are" in their ear and just smile at them when they turn around
>will scare the shit out of them probably tbdesu
and hold a cross and garlic
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>>6293499
You can practice on your own. I did that a lot before I ever practiced with others.

>>6293502
It's a pizza cake...
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>>6293470
>like legit if you were in the US or Canada I'd come pick you up and we could ride off into the unknown together
That'd be like a dream come true ;; I just want to live and experience things...

>>6293467
>Progesterone could be fucking my tits up because I'm taking it so early so
Mine are smaller than yours probs so it's not like these are growing with E... just fuck me up doc!
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>>6293444
>and even then the chemist is still making a massive profit
... potential career paths?

>>6293440
Does everyone get huge nips like this?
I wanna get huge nips like this

>>6293451
I understand ;~;

>>6293457
Then just be beautiful. You identified masculine at some point, and it's going to stick with you forever. It won't go away, and you can't make it go away. It's a part of you. Hang onto it if you want. I don't have a problem with queer theory in and of itself, I just have a problem with people that try to create boxes to ship themselves in, instead of just doing what they want.

>>6293467
I forgot how great meet the medic was.
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>>6293506
https://youtu.be/q_RPZcSZWJo?t=29s
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>>6293520
so firstly im pretty sure you're trying to troll rawr and not me (that picture is of her like 4? years ago)
and secondly rawr is super cute now so u can just shut up overall

>>6293515
lol
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>>6293525
>unironically raiding
It doesn't stop being 18 and over just because it's summer
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>>6293522
THIS IS MY JAM
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>>6293525
>raiding
lmfao what is this 2006

ur shitposting is really bretty awful too tho so
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>>6293467

LMAO STOP FAYEPOSTING

>>6293476

o-okie, ty friend ^__^

>>6293497

tfw special snowflake ;_;

>>6293521

o-okie. i will!!!
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>>6293525
She is like top tier girl here. Top 3 IMHO
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>>6293525
>raiding mtfg by shitposting
literally like raiding /b/ with porn kek
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good morning angels
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>>6293530
she no longer has a gt so yeah, she's pretty much in the top unmanliness here.
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>>6293535
Hi kyle
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>>6293535
Top of the mornin, gents
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>>6293535
post your feet
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>go to turn on my a/c conditioner
>see a bug fly around really fast and hit the wall, scream loud af and almost have a heart attack
>it's a ladybug
>again

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
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>>6293535
good morning angles.
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What was kayla's results on that psycho tests we did yesterday?
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>>6293525
So you are just another Loser...
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>>6293545
I love you
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>>6293540
post poogina
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>>6293521
>... potential career paths?
Fuuuck that. Being an illicit chemist sounds like an awful job

>>6293513
Well you're done ^^ Congrats!

>>6293545
I don't know if she did it, but she's been diagnosed as histrionic by mtfg before.
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>>6293548
>>
>internet crashes because someone did something to the router

IS EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY TECH ILLITERATE?

I'll be back when it's fixed.
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>>6293554
This is true. You get a lot more shit from the cops when you're selling the drugs, not to mention making them. Plus the crime risk...
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>>6293550
K
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>>6293224
>is talking about guns just an American passtime?
Honestly, it absolutely is. Guns as a hobby, guns for hunting, guns for self defense, guns because its our right, guns to compensate for a small dick; there are lots of reasons people here get into them but they definitely have a massive fanbase, there are probably at least as many gun fans as there are football or basketball fans. Plenty of people here really despise them or just don't care much about them though, as well; there's a variety.
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>>6293529
snowflake or not, I'm still me.

>>6293542
Vacuum it up. When it takes off because the vacuum wand is to close, it will get sucked in. That's what I do with them in my farm house.

>>6293557
I only taught them how to reboot it with the power switch. They don't have the configuration password.

>tfw I just had some pizza toast for lunch.
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>>6293491
I know it isn't in my best interests to, but I hope you find someone before I'm ready.

You deserve someone nice.
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>>6293563
that's still reasonable quality butt
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>>6293586
I was assuming it was just some pic from facebook
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So for my cosplay I have to show cleavage like pic related, but my bobs are far apart bc barrel chest. What can I do to get then all squished together like that? I have a push up bra but it doesn't help much @_@;;
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>>6293593
u gon be flat chested visible tranny i tell you hwut
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>>6293529
>tfw special snowflake ;_;
Wait.
If you are now snowflake, can I bully you for snowflake related stuff?

>mfw xhe hasn't got a gender
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>>6293592
No it was my butt
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>>6293595
>flat chested

b-but im a B cup :<
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>mfw the transwomen in the lgbt society at uni discovered that i was a chaser
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>>6293604
shuuuuugggg

that aint gon cut it
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>>6293607
This is what you get for being a fetishit
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>>6293457
im glad you brought this up because i dont know what i am either
and i used to feel pressured to identify as mtf here
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>>6293607
dang i wish there had been cute trans girls to chase at my school
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>long talk with yume and gem
>yume tells me I have PTSD eyes in all of my images
>mfw I never realized the thousand yard stare in all of my selfies


>>6293604
pecs do not count as breasts
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>>6293619
This thread is for women only you fucking memegender faggot
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How do i stop having a gross body that has my belly bulge out?
>>
anyone willing to share housing with a mtf. preferably not too far and still on or near the east coast.
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>>6293607
>interacting with university LGBT society members, ever
Why would you do that?
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>>6293625
i think little belly bulges are pretty cute actually but i might be the minority
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>>6293600
looks okay then
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>>6293631
Its not cute on me, I just look deformed
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>>6293629
also mtf, if you're near pittsburgh, that would be great
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Post music to listen to while crying and touching your chest wishing it was more developed

My go to
https://youtu.be/Q9D2pKS1yX8
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>>6293619
why did you feel pressured to identify as a mtf in the thread for mtf people? i'm sure the gaygen doesn't expect you to be gay to frequent it either.
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>>6293639
>tfw undeveloped chest
https://soundcloud.com/djkurara/purgatory-grief-girl

>>6293642
what do you call a gay chaser?
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>>6293625
better abs, better posture?

>>6293630
it's a place to interact with other trannies that isn't as toxic as 4chan
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>>6293642
all this time i thought i was mtf but edie brought up some interesting points and i feel exactly like what she described
i dont feel 100% female at all times
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>>6293638
can you tell me about yourself a little?
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>>6293637
no offense but i doubt that

if you want to get rid of it you should start eating your macros and lifting
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>>6293623
tfw you'll never be this qt
>>
Daily reminder that "non-binary" genders aren't real and that if you don't feel like a girl you shouldn't take hormones.
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>>6293648
>what do you call a gay chaser?
another gay man?

>>6293650
but cis people don't feel 100% their gender all the time either.
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>>6293651
do you have a skype or something?
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>>6293613
What, being overloaded with attention from girls of varying attractiveness?
It's nice if not for the company itself.

>>6293630
They closed half of the building and merged the computer suite with the lgbt club room (because I was realistically the only person to ever use the computer suite).
If you get thrown into a small room with a bunch of other people you are eventually gonna have to talk.
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>>6293572

b-but i like ladybugs

>>6293597

w-well i guess so ;_; IDC ABOUT GENDER STUFF IS ALL IDK

>>6293619

i get u. idk gender is complicated i guess and maybe it's better if we just be whatever we wanna be and let the world perceive us however they want?

>>6293624
>>6293642

stop being meanies ;__;

>>6293639

i just watch scenes of shows to help me cry. like rn because i'm literally sobbing because i needed to cry and looked up scenes of shows lmao
>>
so if I made a bomber crew instead of a tank crew, who's unlikable enough to put in the belly turret?
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>>6293657
daily reminder that feeling like a girl isn't a thing cis woman actually think about or could describe.
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>>6293625
post belly bulge pls
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>>6293665
That doesn't have anything to do with being actually trans. Go back to tumblr
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>>6293662
>it's better if we just be whatever we wanna be and let the world perceive us however they want?
yes! thank you for saying this i needed it ;__;
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>>6293639
>>
My mum supports me but she's mystified as to why I'm happy to have SRS despite being straight. Should I tell her about the AGP? Has anyone here ever publicly stated that they are only attracted to women but prefer sex with men?
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>>6293658
>but cis people don't feel 100% their gender all the time either.
That's news to me
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>>6293639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJFmpLvofrM
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>>6293667
describe that "feeling like a girl" sensation in a serious way then.
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>>6293670
wat am I reading
>>
Reasons you shouldn't transition:
>you don't feel like a woman 100% of the time
>you want to have sex with women
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>>6293665
tell that to my mom tia
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>>6293679
do you know where i can get some t to detrans?
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>>6293658

>but cis people don't feel 100% their gender all the time either.
yes they do lmao

>>6293668

<33 ofc

>>6293679

who cares wat u think
>>
>>6293670
you mean despite being a lesbian, right? or you're a gay man wanting srs? if so, your mom has some mad tolerance levels
also agp is a meme.

>>6293674
you can't even define feeling like a gender, if you asked anyone how they felt their gender they wouldn't know how to describe it. we are the ones who spend too much time thinking about it because something is wrong with us.
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>>6293678
fetishist fanfic
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what if.... there was an /mtfg/ pool party? lets discuss
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>>6293682
My clients do since they pay me to diagnose whether they are actually gender dysphoric or not.
>>
>>6293658
sooooooooooo I think you understand why someone looking for a roommate on mtfg would want to know whether they're a chaser or not then, correct?

>>6293687
>what if
I don't think many people would be wearing swimsuits

>>6293679
but
what if you're interested in having sex with both?
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>>6293687
just like the pool party i'm invited to tomorrow, i probably wouldn't go
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>>6293687
skirtkinis

everywhere
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>>6293687
There would be a bunch of gt's hanging out of poorly fitting bikini's
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>>6293666
>satan trips
N-no satan, stop ;_;
>>6293655
>no offense but i doubt that
Its truee, especially when I add my chest into view
>>6293649
>better abs, better posture?
I need to diet a lot to get abs right?
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>>6293679
>not feeling like a manly freak 24/7 while hoping someday hrt will do something
>>
>>6293687
i'm scared of water and can't swim
i'd just help with the snacks
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>>6293687
Discuss which trips you would kiss there :3
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>>6293661
>lgbt computer club
Okay that actually sounds kind of fun.

>>6293625
I have the same problem, I'm pretty skinny but my normal hip posture is bad so I end up looking like I have a three months pregnant woman's belly at times. Probably like >>6293649 said, work on posture and maybe build some abdominal muscle if you want to change it.
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>>6293682
>>but cis people don't feel 100% their gender all the time either.
>yes they do lmao
most people can't even describe how it would be being the opposite gender, they jump to things they would do or miss doing. i've met a lot of people who you could consider to have a very low level of dysphoria, and a lot of transpeople aren't sure about transitioning 100% of the time every single day. it's not black and white just because there's a threshold between two elements.
>>
>>6293687
I'd sit by the pool on a chair using a towel as a blanket because I'm insecure about my body
At least it's warm out so it would be comfy
>>6293700
Bad hip posture? I wonder if mine is...
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>>6293689
>sooooooooooo I think you understand why someone looking for a roommate on mtfg would want to know whether they're a chaser or not then, correct?
absolutely, I don't understand the part of wanting a roommate from here but that's your life.
>>
>>6293625
i suggest weight loss
>>
>>6293694
visible abs yeah, but I don't think that's what that anon meant, you can train your abs without dieting
>>
Does Anyone Want To Be My Friend
>>
>>6293660
hold on
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>>6293694
>I need to diet a lot to get abs right?
what? no. you need cardio to lose weight and some training regime. I'm no /fit/ and I've read you can't really excercise a single part of your body, but I'm sure there is a way to get better abs without making you gross.
>>
>>6293708
only if you show your butthole
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>>6293623
*hugs* ptsd sucks. i'm gonna end up out on disability because of it. It's complex-ptsd and resisting treatment. Even if I get treated it may be a decade or more before then. To much trauma when I was young. My endocrine system is even fucked up from it.

>>6293639
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jzVJjk32E

>>6293650
Many women don't either.
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>>6293708
Sure I Would Like To
>>
does anyone need a bf at all i might be able to help
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>>6293660
actually can you post yours? id like to stay anon and people know me here.
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>>6293719
Fucking Kek Thanks Anyway
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>>6293718
what if I want one with all the body parts intact? how much would you charge then? include the delivery and fake documentation.
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>>6293712
>>6293707
i just want to have a girly tummy
my entire torso is so masculine its disgusting
i never wanna take my shirt off
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>>6293718
I'd break you, little man
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>>6293687
actually
gaff lines

>>6293705
I don't necessarily want a roommate from here, I just want someone to help bring the rent down a little. A normie roommate that I can trust would be fine as well, but I'm paranoid af and don't trust anyone.

>>6293721
isoteran
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>>6293718
You would probably leave me anyway.
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>>6293721
trips on birdy
>>
>>6293728
It can't be that bad. Just let HRT work a while and do cardio. 50 jumping jacks right now!
>>
>>6293732
>relaxing her stomach
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>>6293734
Does hrt really help with that?
>>
>>6293687
A lot of us would probably act like I did yesterday at a BBQ / pool party with friends: claim to have forgotten a bathing suit as an excuse not to change into something that would show the things about our anatomy that we are uncomfortable with, awkward autistic conversations, feeling bad about self for not being like the more feminine people at the party, leaving early because feeling uncomfortable.
>>
>>6293728
Yeah if you want a flat tummy you gotta lose fat. Cardio and dieting can do that, as long as you stick to it.
>>
>>6293736
manly belly fat? yeah. but women can be fat too
>>
>>6293729
hey im pretty resilient
>>
>>6293736
Hrt changes fat distribution. While a good portion of it is left up to genetics, it really is startling what a few months on hormones and cardio can do for you.
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>>6293739
So how to I lose fat without fucking up my body developing?
>>6293742
well
yea
i just
need to get rid of this manly belly before i can be a fat woman
but once im not fat i'd never go back
>>
>>6293736
It helps with your attitude. This alone will do assuming you are not over 35.
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Anyone have some suggestions about what to do for

>>6293593
>>6293593

idk what to do :/
>>
>>6293746
>without fucking up my body developing?
just don't do weight lifting if you think we have some more growing up to do, outside of that there is nothing to fuck with training.
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>>6293746
aerobics
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>>6293687
fun desu ne
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>>6293728
I'm not eve sure what a "masculine belly" even is in this case, so I'm having a hard time understanding what it is you think that is wrong with it.
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>>6293728
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but if you want to get less chub it's about eating less kcal than you spend I think.
>>
>>6293748
why don't you ask /cgl/? there's an entire board dedicated to cosplay.

>>6293753
closer to a beer belly than handles.
>>
>>6293746
Literally just eat less and exercise more. There is no special trick to it. Like all things related to being trans it takes hard work. if you're not willing to put effort in to it then don't expect results.
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>>6293744
>>6293747
>>6293749
I guess I'll go for a run tonight.. I'm almost 5 months hrt so i guess im just worried about starving myself too much or something
>>6293753
this belly
>>6293750
ill look into that
>>6293754
this is not beauty
>>
>>6293748
push up bra + silicone inserts (?) is the only thing that I can come up with. I dont know if that will make for a qt result, cleavage showing is usually something that needs a) a certain size and b) at least tanner 4 to look good.
>>
>>6293756
i figured asking here would be better since we have similar wide chest issues but I'll try there thanks
>>
>>6293759
shave your arms girl
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>>6293759
>this is not beauty
Aside from armhair it looks fine from whatever little I can see from that angle.
>>
>>6293759
you could lose some weight, but that looks like bad abs. when your abdominal muscles are too weak the organs push their way outside like that. i bet your belly drastically changes after a meal or in the morning.
>>
>>6293761
ty <3
>>
>>6293770
>>6293764
i need to shave more, yeah
i just
haven't yet
i dont know
ive slacked off on the shaving my body bit for a while, probably because of the ingrown hairs on my legs im waiting on going away
>>6293772
>i bet your belly drastically changes after a meal or in the morning.
This is after a meal, actually.
>>
>>6293762
it might be more helpful if you lie and say you want to crossplay and have gino, otherwise you'll get trolled to dead.
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>>6293689
>>6293690
>>6293691
>>6293704
>>6293738
We're all girls here, nothing to be insecure about! have fun!!!

>>6293699
probably none unless they initiate with me... I'm pretty beta and I have anxiety up the ass
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Be my gf
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>>6293774
>This is after a meal, actually.
yeah, you have really bad abs like most people. you'll look skinny if you starve yourself but it won't last. ab training.
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>>6293776
>We're all girls here, nothing to be insecure about! have fun!!!
>nothing to be insecure about!
>>
>>6293777
only if you use that gun to shoot me
>>
>>6293776
>I have anxiety up the ass
me too! whenever i see a hot guy my ass gets all anxious!
>>
>>6293776
>nothing to be insecure about!
o-ok. if you say so.
that might actually be kinda fun though
>>
finally grew out my short boy haircut!! even tho my hair is so thick and uneven i love ittt. i really want to dye it like dark blonde for the summer but its so healthy and soft idk if i should ruin it with strong bleach :/ help me decide girls
>>
>>6293781
I want alive gf
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>>6293777
k.

I am look like pic
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>>6293764
I don't disagree but in fairness Grace has way less arm hair than my sister does. (Cis female privilege is going weeks without shaving your arms or legs and not worrying that that somehow invalidates your gender identity.)
>>
>>6293779
i dont think im gonna starve myself, i need energy to work, but i think i have some weight i could get rid of..
>ab training.
okay, ill look into it
>>
>>6293787
then it doesn't sound like you have anything worthwhile to offer me
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I'm sad now
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>>6293746
>ywn be anything but a fat man
>>
>>6293785
thick hair is best hair, mine looks like crap if it's too dry and I end up tearing some appart whenever I comb it.

>>6293787
well now, you're getting too picky here.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px9VWsSZYP0
>>
>>6293785
That's really pretty, I'd leave it that way if it were mine, haha; the thick and uneven looks good in my opinion.
>>
>>6293785
don't bleach it we u do. speaking from experience it is so not worth and it ruins your hair
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>>6293776
mtfg pool party WHEN
>>
>>6293686
>>6293678
>fetishist
since HRT don't have much of a sex drive, I still want to be female
>>6293683
I know AGP is a meme I was using it ironically. I'm not a gay man.Gay porn, kissing men, even holding hands with men, nope. But dick...
>>
i will gladly take a gf dead or alive Tbh
>>
>>6293807
I was complaining that you said gay when you meant you liked girls, as it stands only men are gay even if the word used to work with both genders.
>>
>>6293792
Same
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>TFW Sass announces herself to the thread

Hey girls! What's going on today?
>>
>>6293807
also, why wouldn't you want srs? you hate your penis and you want it out, that should be the point. it will also avoid girls seeing you as a failed male instead of a woman.
>>
>>6293802
If you can't keep your hair healthy then you suck at hair. my current hair has been dyed at least a dozen times and bleached about the same and it's healthy as fuck.

how2hair
>don't wash for as long as you possible can
>shampoo down to your ears and no farther
>condition everything else
>don't shampoo every time
>after bleaching leave your conditioner in your hair for 30 minutes
>use vegan dyes like manic panic if you have a hard time keeping your hair healthy as these won't leave a scratch on your hair
>>
>>6293804
Gosh, I hope soon ;~;
It's like, forty degrees here for some reason and not being in the water is the worst.
>>
>>6293820
im gonna bleach my hair in a couple of months desu
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD-MXuF1JFs
>>
>>6293816
Hi Sass. How are you doing?
>>
>>6293825
whats ur natural color dana?
>>
>>6293825
i'm gonna bleach my throat right now desu
>>
>>6293828
black
>>
>>6293831
ooo
>>
>>6293804
You just want to ogle my back fat.

>>6293827
Hey! Everything is awesome, except I swear to Jesus that I can feel my brow bone growing.

How about you Aka, how are you today?
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>>6293838
i just want to have fun with nice girls .__.;
>>
>tfw mirror. ;_;
Who am I?
>>
>>6293830
Why would you do that? Do you have a sore throat?
>>
>tfw winter
>tfw i'm allowed to cover as much of my body as I can
>tfw hiding my brow with a thick wool hat
i feel i can leave the house a bit now
>>
>>6293842
i think it's gonna look nice for the er guys, they are hotties
>>
>>6293840
Awesum I'm nice! I don't vidya tho. Except for pokemon.

>>6293841
http://youtu.be/sb3tHsCLWsI
>>
>>6293838
Sweaty and tired. But I had a delicious maple avocado nuts smoothie, and have clean clothes again, so who's to complain?

Happy to see Edie working through stuff, and it's still hours until I have to go toil away at work.
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i miss faye ;///3///;
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>>6293844
TBQH girlfriend, I don't think guys care that much for throats, be they bleached or not. You should trust your beauty
>>
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cgl is so slow .-.
>>
>>6293853
okay, I'm gonna drink bleach for my own sake from now on! thanks sass!
>>
>>6293851
Me too
>>
>>6293851
same
>>
>>6293853
No one likes colored neck rings i guess?
>>
>>6293851
i do too, i need new pics to fantasize about her
>>
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>>6293851
>tfw you dont have a faye of your own
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>>6293851
Your gf will wake up soon. Then you can be insufferably cute together all you like.

I gather spending time with your ex helped you out some?
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>>6293851
edie <3 hiiii ~ do you have any advice for

>>6293593

i figured if anyone would know or could point me on the right direction it would be you ^_^ I have to get this figured out by Wednesday!
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>>6293861
>tfw you release a new meme pic to the world and people save it
>>
Tfw gf says you're like pico from boku no pico
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>>6293864
I need more sad anime pics
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>>6293857
>>6293858
>>6293860

let's summon her!!!!

>>6293861

you want a faye too? understandable, she's p great i will admit

>>6293862

I WANNA CUDDLE HER RN RN!!!!! ;___; RN RN!!!!!!!!!
also i decided not to hang out wit him desu

>>6293863

genuine question, do you have any boob to push up? i know you're not long on hrt now so that's why i ask
>>
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>>6293867
i got a bunch
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>>6293863
Afternoon Korra (no, I don't know an answer. My boobs are so far apart that any standard bra crushes them together and lifts them to my clavicle).

>>6293865
Hiya Red.
>>
>>6293865
pico worst boku no pico tbdesu.
like being harpo marx
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gn thread

please be safe girls
>>
>>6293868
>you want a faye too? understandable, she's p great i will admit
Well ive never met her so i cant say for sure~
But i meant i want my own figurative faye
Someone that id feel this way over and reciprocates
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>>6293867
I already used all I had saved in the tfw no uterus thread a few days ago.

>>6293869
your memes are stale, tbdesu
>>
>>6293871
tfw your gf claims that she's your gf and that she loves you but she really doesn't desu senpai
>>
>>6293873
gn kit!
>>
>>6293878
yeah, but which boku no pico are you?
>>
>>6293878
>>6293871

oops didn't mean to reply to anyone
>>
>>6293877
:(
>>
>>6293878
>tfw you say "i love you" and get nothing in return
>>
>>6293851
:3 http://youtu.be/izGwDsrQ1eQ

If you're worried about getting enough calcium in your diet, you should do as our native american ancestors and start eating corn tortillas (3/4 calcium content as milk, and it's whole grain and a complex carb), but only corn tortillas, and you need sunlight or else, the calcium won't bond to bones.

>>6293849
That sounds good! So you do excercise and stuff?

What's goin on with Edie, what is she processing?
>>
>>6293869
S a v e d
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>>6293883
memes are like baking, it's always better when you do your own and it feels like an acomplishment.
>>
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>>6293888
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>>6293868
ya I'm a b cup. but they're spaced so far apart =(

>>6293870
heya kaka! what's up?
>>
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>>6293878
Men make better companions. Get yourself a good man.
>>
>>6293884
she says she loves me but I can hear how hollow it is, just like the rest of her
>>
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>>6293888
I don't know where to find manga relevant to my reaction image interests.
>>
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>>6293856
Noooooooooo! Your gut bacteria will die and then you're going to have horrible farts.

Also bleach will.probably get neutralized with your stomach acid and make you vomit.

>>6293859
LMAO! Kelly knows where it's at!

>>6293865
>TFW you don't look like coco
>>
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>>6293895
manga is the biggest market for depressing stuff.
>>
>>6293885
Your dose
(You)
>>6293863
And your (you)
>>6293865
How could I forget (you)

Mmkay, the children have been fed <3

So, weird shit... People were like, acting attracted and being nice about my pic last night
>>
>>6293873
>ywn crawl into to bed with kit
Y liv
>>
>>6293897
>>6293895
what are some good mangas to read
>>
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>mtfg.jpg
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>>6293902
all of them, different anon
depends desu, any fav genre?
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>>6293902
for depressing feels you have stuff like
oyasumi punpun
homuculus
i wanna be the hero

i'm currently loving otoyomegatari, which is sort of a slice of life about the middle east in the early 20th century.
>>
>>6293898
Yummy! <3

You should like avoid being a sexy slut in your pics if you don't want to be ogled ;)
>>
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>>6293876

you could totes have that, grace. ur the toast of mtfg!!!!

>>6293885

lmao at careless whisper. also o-oh, ok, maybe ye

>>6293892

okie, get a sticky bra then! there are tons on amazon and there are vids on how to create cleavage with them all over youtube.
>>
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>>6293902
I don't really read manga but if I did I'd probs try that punpun one.
>>
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>>6293903
>>mtfg.jpg
>>
>>6293910
It was just my faaace!
>>
If I stave myself every monday though friday and eat on the weekends would it help my shoulders shrink?
>>
>>6293919
It would get rid of fat and muscle, but idk if you can shrink bone
>>
>>6293912
it wouldn't be the best idea. punpun is like having someone punching you in the gut over and over again, and when you cry and ask him to stop he just keeps going harder than before.
inio asano is a true genius.

you would like DeadDeadDemonsDedededestruction. it's about neet girls in a post invasion world where nothing happened. same author.
>>
>>6293911
>you could totes have that, grace. ur the toast of mtfg!!!!
The toast?
But idk
I havent met the right person and im not good enough for them yet anyway
>>
>>6293919
Yes, and your boobs will also be tiny
>>
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>>6293919
Don't stave yourself.
>>
>>6293911
kk ty! i'm gonna go look up some now! thanks <3333333
>>
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>>6293914
>>>mtfg.jpg
>>
>>6293813
Oh right. I get confused too. Yeah I meant even though I'm a lesbian.
>>6293819
Exactly, I'm more than happy to go all the way with surgery it's just that I feel bad that my mum is confused. Also for the record I can't honestly say that I hate my penis It doesn't like horrify me I just wish I was born with a vagina instead. What horrifies me is my fucking jaw.
>>
>>6293931
>cis girl toys
>>
>>6293926
You're the toast, you just need to find your egg.
>>
>>6293929
I would rather look like that, actually. atm I'm pretty much that but with shoulders 1/7th of the way
>>
>>6293934
just explain to her that it's not about having or not having sex, it's just how you want your body to be.
>>
>>6293935
You don't have a vibrator or dildo Dana?
>>
>>6293937
>I would rather look like a stick
why not be a thicc goddess
>>
>>6293820
>tfw hair only grows about 2 inches
>tfw need a weave
>tfw it's so short I'll need to straighten it before the weave
>tfw I can't do any of this before I actually start looking female
>tfw need to wait to fail boymode before I can get a hairstyle that will allow me to fail boymode
>tfe
>>
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>>6293925
No I think it'd be a perfect fit for me.

>>6293926
You are a cute, young & popular girl with decent future prospects, you'll find the perfect person for you sooner or later.
>>
>>6293943
>>6293943
>>6293943
>>
>>6293942
>>6293942
because unless I become a round object my shoulders will still get me clocked.
>>
>>6293919
Pls tell me of this actually works I don't wanna be a hon anymore. This plus ffs might save me.
>>
>>6293940
Good idea.
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