/mtfg/ Transgirl General

>>6213835
Why aren't you doing your best 'shannon'?

i want to hug my qt lil sheeniepoo

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>no hugboxing
>/mtfg/
Pick one.

>>6213835
>ohayo gozaimasu
I knew a pretty disgusting guy in HS who said that when he entered our classroom to visit. He was icky.

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>>6213835
>no actions
do you wanna fight ?
*gets ready*

Let's talk about clothes. What do you usually wear every day /mtfg/?

>>6213835
No link to previous thread. You just can't do anything right can you fattie?

>>6213845
no persecution complex
don't complain until it happens in the thread.

>>6213843
>bullying sheen
delet this

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>>6213810
Apologies for my horrible guy voice.
I've been informed that I sound autistic

For you though bb, I could practice and be a strong, suave gentleman.

>>6213824
this desu, I've always felt like the "trans is not a mental illness" camp are mostly 1. scared of the stigma against mental illness, 2. perpetrators of the stigma against mental illness ("we may be weird but we're not THAT weird" etc.) and 3. scared of people using it as an excuse to say that transition isn't valid or right even though it's the only widely proven treatment against dysphoria

>>6213851
stop it

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im >literally< max

>>6213850
... Jeans. Usually a shirt or t-shirt. Either my leather Jacket, or a hoodie two sizes too small for me that I can't throw away for some reason.


I'm not feeling too chipper tonight...

>>6213850
Boots or cons, skinny jeans and a cute jumper or hoodie.

>>6213850
Jeans, leggings, tank top, hat, cute shirts, flowy blouses

>>6213843
Shut the fuck up rawr.

>>6213862
then travel in time to stop 9/11

>>6213850
mens clothing

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>>6213850
Comfy clothes I would never wear outside of my apartment.

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post guy voices
http://vocaroo.com/

who else /sheen internet defense force/ here

Has anyone here heard of a herb called Pueraria Mirifica?

I'm not on HRT yet (and I'm trying to get on it soon), but circumstances aren't in my favour until around October.

Should I start taking a combination of saw palmetto, spearmint tea (proven to have some anti androgenic effects), as well as pueraria mirifica (estrogen) in the mean time?

Good morning everyone!
>cleaned liviing room last night
>cuddled with gem while watching frozen
>got a really good night's rest
>fuck work
I feel 150% comfy rn besides the fact that I have no headphones.

>>6213877
I'd rather not actually...

>>6213851
I literally just woke up but here you go
>>6212390

>>6213877
we did this yesterday
https://clyp.it/rwezgvh3

>>6213863
What's up?

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>>6213850
Sundress.
Or tank top with skirt.

>>6213882
it doesn't work

>>6213885
Post noose.

>>6213882
if it's gonna calm you down then do it, it has almost no effect. not even femboi general cares about that.
stress generates testosterone, so placebos are better than nothing.

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>>6213882
I take pueraria mirifica, I think it works but Ive seen enough online reviews saying it doesn't to be convinced I must be experiencing a placebo effect or just imagining it.

>>6213900
reminder that it does actually hurt your hrt because it blocks the estrogen receptors with weaker estrogen

>>6213882
It doesnt work alone, if you try both pueraria and saw, it may actually work.
Also stop eating meat, and eat more estrogen food like spearming and greentea or i dunno

>>6213888
I guess I'm pretty lonely is all... I don't want to bother my friends because they're busy on a date, the people I usually multiplayer with have been avoiding me for no reason, my family have been assholes to me today and I'm avoiding them and I'm too embarrassed of my own voice to talk to anyone here on skype, and too... unmotivated to work on improving it. I'm also anxious about transition, but antsy to get on with it. At a guess, this is what a depressive episode feels like on prozac. I've never really been able to talk about it before.

I'm going to bed.
Can I please have a (You) to cheer me up when I wake up?

Also
night girls

>>6213850
My work uniform

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>>6213877
clyp
.it/ugxnbceh

>>6213916
good night

>>6213859
Hey elanna, it's the gayfag that hogged your attention all day yesterday.

You called me a nerd after I fell asleep. I just wanted to say, take it back you bully ;-;

How're you today tho?

>>6213916
Here. I'm feeling pretty down myself right now. Might as well make someone happy.

>>6213916
good night sweet princess.

>>6213916
(You)

>>6213924
>Elanna's harem grows every day and knows no bounds.

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1 day estrogen, am I gonna make it familia

is kayla ok now?

>>6213916
nn

so again
should I be on 8mg progy perhaps?

my estrogen level at 4mg was 246 pmol/L, haven't been able to get it tested since bumping myself up to 6mg
when I bumped it up I felt really un-depressed and stuff for a few days though, idk if it was just a placebo but whatever

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>>6213850
Pic related.

>>6213933
>young
>evidence you go outside

yah probably

>>6213933
you can do it anon! hang in there!

>>6213877
Yeee
https://clyp.it/zrvgczzj
I never drop my voice. It sounds gayer than before I started voice training

>>6213933
Yes you fucking are. I love you, you little dork

>>6213933
Eh. probably. If you don't give up, and you put effort into it.

Then again, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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>>6213877
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1LiqR0a9Yn8

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>>6213933
>tfw will never have a normal chin instead of the square disgusting shit I have
I hate you

>>6213933
pluck eyebrows senpai

>>6213916
night

>>6213934
Kayler never was and never will be OK.

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>>6213850
Im trying to use long shirts with girls jeans, boots and a jacket.

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Sup huns and goblins ?

>>6213877
Basically it's Scary Terry from Rick and Morty, plus James Earl Jones

>>6213946
You know that Todd Howard lookalike?

>>6213945
qt <3

>>6213933
yeah, probably. really depends on how you behave or you could easily ruin your decent genes.
get your eye brows plucked by a pro, don't make the mistake of trusting your own criteria.

>>6213934
pls respond someone

>>6213956
whos the dude?

>>6213954
Is that you K-chin?

>>6213934
I don't know, show boobs and feel sad if you want to check.

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>>6213904
You have no idea what chromosones I have, pay for my genetic testing, Im confident Id come up XXY.

>>6213906
Reminder that you don't know how biochemistry works.

>>6213920
<3

>>6213973
i don't want to upset everyone again

>>6213954
much better than the boderline fetish black wear you showed yesterday ifthat's you. you looked like a cam girl.

What are you sluts doing here?????

>>6212390

Only 23 more posts to reach 700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>6212390
>>6212390
>>6212390

We can do it!!!!!!!

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>>6213877
https://clyp.it/mnxon4or
Rate gayness?

>>6213924
Awe, sorry, I entirely mean nerd in a good way though!! I'm pretty much a nerd so I treat it like a compliment

I'm doing pretty good, how are you?

>>6213956
I really dislike your taste on hair...

Can I be a hon and a goblin? I think it fits besides the height issues.

>>6213977
I just want to see how your character develops from ero filler to something interesting or worse.

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>>6213859
o-oh my gosh
youre the best <3 :3

>horrible guy voice.
I havent used mine in years, I can make like, deep sounds accidently, but I cant talk consistently in my old guy voice anymore. I am not sure if thats psychological. I get scolded when I drop accidently (not like that happens regularly anymore, but it was a thing for quite a while)
I probably still have old recordings on my PC somewhere though

I dont think your voice sounds bad at all, kinda young though, a little more like a teenager in mid/late puberty than an adult. do I know your girlvoice? I think I cant remember :0

>>6213975
>You have no idea what chromosones I have, pay for my genetic testing, Im confident Id come up XXY.
then you arent trans in the first place and have no place in this discussion.

>>6213937
unneccesary, and certainly not healthy probably.

>>6213989
lilys hair is the absolute worst

>>6213986
pretty gay/10

someone please tell me how kayla is doing

>>6213989
whats ero filler

>>6213956
you look like a dude
not even a dyke with short hair
you legitimately look like a dude

Send help I'm useless

>>6213998
You should check /b. He usually posts there.

>>6213998
when a character is added because the editors think that a manga needs more panty shots to get attention.

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>>6213975
moap<3 hi bb ilu 5 ever ^~^ hru

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>>6213956
Glad i'm not the only man with boobs here.

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>>6213993
I was a natal male who took hormones and underwent procedures in order to live as a woman, if XXY means that Im not trans because of this, then what am I? If Im not a mentally ill male then I am no longer tru-trans?

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I need to quit my job and get a sugar daddy.

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>>6213993
How do you actually train a voice to behave that way? Voice training seems very intimidating honestly.

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>>6213948
>>6213948
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1cEBHMzQhSc

i didn't know what to say coz i instantly got turned off by my dumb voice

is there any hope for me, voice training is hard

>>6214001
tell that to the other peeps pls :(
>>6213989
sure you can be both if you want
Idk i like my hair
>>6213967
i wish people would see what you see :(

>>6214005
do you make those drawings, Korra? Have you considered getting a bit more professional with that? drawfags can get some decent cash as a side job, a few live off that but it's pretty rare.

>>6213986
This vacation I'm on is starting to grind my gears. No privacy at all, and I can't realize any of my hobbies. I also added a trip from here today, so I made a new acquaintance. Way to go, me.

What'd you do today?

>>6213993
I was told 246 is really low though...

>>6214017
Do you have 'mild autism'?

>>6214007
Oh CWC you poor, poor soul.

>>6214008
I think you go under the freak category.

>>6214014
Hi grace.

>>6213960
I know that beautiful girl, yeah.

>>6214029
Hello, how are youu

>>6214026
oh

sorry

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>>6214030
Yeah Todd is pretty handsome.

>>6214037
Answer the question

those guys voices are hot

>>6214033
I've been better. A little blue right now.
I vented here but I'm not feeling much better,
>>6213912

>>6213961
<3

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>>6213954
Cute outfit

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>>6214045
isn't he like really short?

>>6214027
>Oh CWC you poor, poor soul.
I always feel worse for those "trolls" that documented every day of cwc's life. that's some serious stuff.

>>6214048
I don't, I'm just tired and having a shitty week & hate my voice

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>>6214017
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0vBI157BNc5
>>6214014
the dream

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>>6214027
Theres just no winning then, Ill never just be a normal girl. Brb an heroing.

what do people here think about chin clefts?
they good or nah?

>>6214059
manlets are cute imh[on]o

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>>6214045
I want Todd to tell me more sweet little lies
>>6214050
Don't be lonely friend, I'm home now

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>>6214008
if youre intersex. you have a biological claim on being female, we dont. you need to have normal chromosomes to be diagnosed as trans.
dont worry tho, nearly every transgirl thinks she is intersex at some point, very few actually are. so you probably can keep the trutrans badge

>>6214015
I-I dont know, I just trained for like a year

>>6214022
compared to what? ovulating women? I dont think more is necessary. the way I understood it 246 was the result for 4mg and youre now on 6, right?

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>>6214067
In my experience its a common trait for giraffekin like myself. Pretty not femme.

>>6214067
as in, for guys? it's okay, I don't have the fetish but it's a pretty manly thing so I get it.
for a tranny? it can be saved but it's hard. the most marked one I've seen was in a HS girl who literally had a little butt in her chin.

>>6214067
HON TIER

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>>6214014
why bad day? D:

>>6214019
no I just like them alot =) but I if like to doodle in my free time. I used to draw alot as a little girl but Iist my muse bc childhood trauma and haven't bothered to try to relight it

>>6214075
yeah

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>>6214075
If you have no biological claim on being female, doesn't that mean /pol is right and we're all degenerate faggots destined for the fire?

>>6214086
Don't ever refer to your younger self as a little girl again. You make my skin crawl. Fuck.

>>6214059
I think that's just /v spreading lies after being cucked by him and buying FO4 in droves.

>>6214061
Do you think those trolls are responsible for Chris becoming a tranny?

>>6214066
It's okay Moap. Being a freak is not the end of the world. Just look at this general.

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>tfw people gender me female
I just wanna live my cuntboy AAP dream ;-;

>>6214014
I mean.. I basically have that as my job in a way. Only instead of lewd he demands social media strategies and marketing proposals.

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>tfw manly
>tfw huge chin
>tfw huge nose
>tfw caveman brow
>tfw right eye is messed up and deformed

>>6214074
Hmph... Thanks. I'm just... not in a happy place. I have an appointment with a psyche on the 23rd (2 days earlier than before I re-scheuled... woo. yay.) and even then I'm going to be waiting a while for a specialist, and I'm 90% positive that my mum is going to try and sabotage it... if I even have a chance of getting on HRT, and there's no guarantee I'll be able to afford it. And after that, there's voice training which I won't be able to pull off for ages and might never get down... I'm stressing out. And I can't stop.

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>>6214005
Korra I cant take all this talk of mental illness, it makes me think Im just a degenerate faggot lying to myself who should an hero.

>>6214102
Nobody would gender that picture you posted as female, but if you pass irl then good for you hon.

>>6214098
korra is a self-additted agp black man vicariously living through a cartoon character what do you expect

>>6214106
Welcome to the club. Here's your free rope.

At least I don't have to wear sunglasses because of my brow. Stay positive lol

yo anyone ever have days where they think they should just be a dumb faggoty girly boy instead of a girl because they'll never pass as a cis-girl??

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>tfw another night spent getting no rest
i wish this was for lewd reasons or something
morning girls @___@

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>>6214089
I dont think 8mg should ever be selfmedded without someone monitoring your liver, but its your life I guess... Iam fairly certain the ~350-400 youre probably at now arent too low though.

>>6214096
what part of not stigmatizing mental illness do you not understand

>>6214102
I detransitioned Lily :^)

>>6214112
>good for you
No it's not
I wanna get gendered male yo ;-;

>>6214099
>Do you think those trolls are responsible for Chris becoming a tranny?
I was still a bit into it and it came as shock to the cwcwiki, so I seriously doubt it. If anything they helped him repress more.
I remember when they coordianted a date (with a pretty cute member of the wiki), recorded it, met the dad and attacked them wearing a pickle costume like three hours into the date.
No one can be so into some poor cowlol's life to get that far without real issues.

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I wore makeup in boy mode today. Also got called miss at panda express.

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>>6214109
well ur not ur a super qt girl and someone I love very much. I would cry for days if u died ;~; pls bb

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>>6213993
<3
I think I've posted my girlvoice before but here it is
https://clyp.it/uhrjlrmw

I havn't really used my guyvoice in years either and it takes considerable effort to do a guy voice. Also, trying to make myself sound like a straight guy apparently makes me sound autistic.
My voice never really fully dropped though, so I have the faggy teenager thing going on.

>>6213997
welp

>>6214021
Oh, where are you on vacation?

I didn't do a whole lot today really. Shitposted, looked for work, put off working out. Being neet sucks ;_;

>>6214119
Me too >>6213956 :^)

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>>6214115
Sunglasses are for normies, I would never wear any even though summer fucks up my eyes.

>>6214106
>>tfw right eye is messed up and deformed
that's not a particularly male trait...

>>6214116
>dumb faggoty girly boy
What makes you think that kind of life is any better compared to an existence as a tranny?

>>6214120
So can I keep calling you larry then?

>>6214116
yes, just like depression disphoria isn't a constant state or you'd get used to it and turn it into background noise.

>>6214121
Are you talking about the emu ranch? It seems 2/3's of lolcows there are trannies.

>>6214102
how do you feel that kayla is presenting as a dyke in jeans and flannel?

>>6214126

If you wear makeup is it really a boy mode?

>>6214133
because at least i pass as a pathetic beta cuckboy with gay hair and a dumb face

>>6214136
Nah my name is xander
>>6214141
Idk she isn't even parttime so literally just lumberjack hipster

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>>6214119
If being transgendered is a mental illness then the proper treatment IS NOT gender transition. The correct treatment would be drug you until you stop feeling dysphoria. Therefor, transpeople who transition are still mentally ill and should be treated as confused men. There is no stigma against mental illness here, only the fact that if our desire to be female is but a mental disorder then we SHOULD NOT be indulged on it, and transgender identity DOES NOT EXIST and is just as made up as other tumblr identities.

>>6214118
I know the feeling. I've got a ton of work stress and theres these new lights right outside my apartment keeping me up all night. It sucks.

>>6214141
its a fun look stop judging girls for shit

>>6214102
what are you going to do when your government mandates all women to wear burqa?

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>>6214132
It's still disgusting, my fucked up man eyes and chin is all I can look at when I see my own face and I look past everything else for some reason.

>>6214147
Larry it is then

>>6214140
No, the CwC wiki. Since they documented every month of his life with dayly marks, collected extra info on the parents and familly and had transcriptions for absolutely everything ever recorded; I'd assume they are the specialists.

>>6214148
>take drugs to stop feeling like a woman
>stop taking drugs and feel like a woman again

so your solution to not taking drugs to become and feel like a woman is to take drugs 24/7 to NOT feel like a woman

>>6214155
Thanks
>>6214150
Laugh at them

>>6214155
Larrylily.

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>>6213972
No idea who that is

>>6213979
Im not, i havent posted in months.

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>>6214164
where'd you get that jacket

>>6214164
heeeey i remember you.

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>>6214157
>CwC wiki
I always found kiwifarms more fun. And yes there are some really messed-up people following the life of Sonichu creator. That crowd is almost as bad as CWC.

>>6214164
>Im not, i havent posted in months.
I confused you with someone else.
I'm not a fun of the schoolboy look, I do love the jacket even if it's a bit durararaesque.

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>>6214158
My solution would be to stop trying to claim that being transgendered is a mental condition, that transpeople who advocate this position are self hating and need to accept themselves, and that anyone should be allowed to take whatever drugs they want to do whatever they like to their own bodies without having to worry about the stigmas of others creeping into their personal lives.

But, on the hypothetical that being trans is a mental disorder, we should try to cure the mental disorder and not allow mentally ill men to destroy their bodies.

>>6214116
yes
then I remember dysphoria doesn't work like that and I can't pass as a 'girly' anything

>>6214142
they are mens clothes and shoes so yeah

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>sleep for 12+ hours
>still tired

tfw no comfy sleeps with gf
idu why i am always sleepy at all times .__.

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>sister just made a joke about me not being able to have kids
I like being a living fucking joke to the rest of the world
>>6214086
Yeah. Work hasn't been going the greatest.
>>6214105
what job
>>6214107
Don't worry, you're going to make it, I promise. I know it seems impossible now but you'll get through it. <3
>>6214116
I'm fucking disgusting as a guy so my only options are make it as a girl or kill myself

>>6214185
not enough dick desu. youre suffwrinf the effects of withdrawal

>>6214116
I'm coming to that realization

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>>6214130
no I mean I am off E

>>6214129
>ywn make elanna read whole books to you while youre curled up in her lap
why live ;_;

your voice is great, but you probably know that anyway. I wish mine was that good.

>>6214148
>The correct treatment would be drug you until you stop feeling dysphoria.
correct. this doesnt exist though. as a result, steps are undertaken to make life as livable as possible.

>Therefor, transpeople who transition are still mentally ill
yes

>should be treated as confused men
>then we SHOULD NOT be indulged on it
who says that.

>transgender identity DOES NOT EXIST

true, its called transsexuals.
>and is just as made up as other tumblr identities.
nope, its probably based on faulty neurological development/wiring, so its the result of something physical. its a mental illness, but it does exist.

>>6214185
maybe you have leukemia

>>6214192
Ffs prep ?

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>>6214176
Looks like me.

>>6214014
>I need to quit my job and get a sugar daddy.
same

except for the sugar daddy part
and the job part

>>6214185
You're a beta slave, four hours of that sleep is actually you being programmed for sex by a handler. Its the ultimate fate of every passable tranny.

>>6214129
Currently, I'm in the North Sea. But with my family. Not with a qt bf material man ;-;

And you're a NEET? Would have never thought. Do you have a completed education though?

I think I failed to ask what field you work in. What do you?

>>6214185
sounds like you slept too much

if I sleep more than 8 hrs I feel grogy all day

6 hours is perfect desu

>tfw no gf to sleep with

>>6214188
vp of media and marketing with a tech firm you've never heard of

>>6214199
then what the heck are you talking about

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>>6214197
no, I am just out.

>>6214188
Yeah... maybe. I need cuddles right now... I can feel my eyes tearing up.

>>6214188
>a joke about me not being able to have kids
Steal hers. Don't give them back.

That... gives me an idea.

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>>6214188
I'm sure you're not that bad as a guy.

At the very least HRT makes your face more feminine so if you don't make it as a girl you can always just bind and be a cute twink faggot until you turn 25-28 and then commit

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F L A N N E L
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>>6214206
whaddya mean chipmunk

>>6214182
there are countries out there that are pretty much
>you want to transition? yeah, sure, sign a couple forms so we update the database and do it.
but service providers don't want to touch your drugs. I think Phien said before that the mental disorder angle is good if only for letting in girls who couldn't afford it.

>>6214212
why is your mom buying your clothes?

Most of you should kys
Death to the hons

>>6214213
I'm about to log on in a few mins :D

>>6214184
>women can't wear men clothing
>women don't look better than men in fitting men clothing

>>6214182
How is someone whose brain and body aren't compatible at least some kind of ill/disabled.

Medication and surgery aren't inherently bad and in many cases are used to solve health and mental issues.

Illnesses and disabilities are a thing, people are not always looked down for having them. Same would be with transgenderism.

>>6214208
Why ?
>>6214220
tfw want to be a hon
;-;

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>>6214192
No theres a drug that makes you stop feeling dysphoria, its been posted in here and on polgbt a lot lately. You should look into it.

Any psychiatrist will tell you that indulging on the fantasies of a mentally ill patient is a very bad thing.

Transsexuality doesnt really exist then, its just men mutilating themselves. Coming up with terms to label it is meaningless when in an ideal world we would cure them all and wed all be happy as man.

Ill be in the corner with my brains splayed across the floor in the meantime, be sure to bury me in a nice dress. I have a feeling Im not the only person here who would rather die than be a man, so Im sure I wont be the only one.

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>>6214213
if you say same
and then say except for everything i just said
what are you talking about
>>6214211
Oh no, I was that bad as a guy. Absolutely disgusting. A complete and utter beta faggot. Not that I'm much better now but transitioning has been a slight improvement.
>>6214220
on it
>>6214209
Shh, it's okay to cry and let it out. I'd give you a tight hug if I could.
>>6214205
Oh nice, that must be a comfy job.

>>6214212
>wearing mens clothing
>still passes

>>6214229
I work 15 hours a day desu

on top of next to no pay because we're between investor capital rn with a dozen projects launching
no food in the house at all

I'm thinking retail might be better at this rate

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>>6214220
I want to die!

oh and I got my levels today from my doctor

T is at fucking 5
E is at 211

uh.... is it weird to have rape fantasies? i keep daydreaming about being fucked by a guy unwillingly.

>>6214188
>>sister just made a joke about me not being able to have kids
>I like being a living fucking joke to the rest of the world
hatefull joke or just sibling rivalry for fun?
Because if she doesn't see it as an issue and puts it on the same level as having glasses then that's pretty cool.

>>6214205
>vp of media and marketing with a tech firm you've never heard of
any tips for the job market?

>>6214224
You already are one, Larry

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>>6214229
Was it the way you acted or looked in boymode?

Becoming trans or whatever the fuck convinced me to lose weight, start dressing better and feel better even as a boy/boymode

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>>6214229
I... I want a lot of things right now... I think I'll go lie on the floor for a while.

>tfw you've been visibly upset for an hour, made small talk with everyone, and not been asked what's wrong

>>6214233
Both Eminem and Eliot pass flawlessly.

>>6214241
I wish
How do i get people to gender me male ? :(

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>>6214243
What's wrong!

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>>6214116
Like every day tbqhon. It's killing me

>>6214220
Wanna help me out with that?

>>6214238
It's a pretty common sexual fantasy for girls apparently.

>>6214239
list yourself as trans

not kidding

diversity hires lmfao

also
>nobody cares about buzzwords in an interview
>tell people about things you've helped actually DO
>problems you've fixed
>plans you've developed

>>6214243
floor is comfy

>>6214224
Congratulations you already are

>>6214212
[heavy breathing]

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So many feels happening right now D:

>>6214228
>trusting new drugs before they have been tested
for all we know the test subjects could be just repressing, if they chose to undergo treatment in the first place they probably looking for more excuses to repress. there's no proper way to create a test group, so most of their results are meaningless.

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>>6214204
Awe, how long are you at the north sea?

Also, yeah, I'm temporarily living the neet life until I can find work. I'm between school and actually finding work and the job market is pretty bad here in Alberta. Unemployed is probably a more accurate term because it implies that it's a bit more temporary.

I've completed a degree in chemistry and I'm searching for lab work at the moment, but I'm also applying for unrelated work in the hopes that a STEM degree will be enough to get my foot in the door.

>>6214192
>tfw
I would love to read books to someone but I haven't anyone in my life to do that for ;~;

Also, my voice is inconsistent. That's my voice at its best but it can either drop down into andro pitch range or have a strange nasally strained quality to it. I'd like to train it to be a bit better.

>>6214245
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahhahahahaha

>>6214247
Implying

>>6214253
See >>6214247

>pleasantly buzzed off one hard cider

God I missed you HRT

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>>6214218
Thats where it starts but ultimately it would lead to denying people transition at all because indulging in a mental disorder is medically unsound. If transsexuality is just another mental disorder we should attempt to drug the person until they can live a normal life as the man they are. Especially in places with government run healthcare. And to be fair, if we are just mentally ill men, drugging us so that we stop feeling dysphoria is the correct solution.

>>6214223
I would consider it a deformity, not a condition. I dont know why everyone keeps saying I advocate looking down on transsexuals if its a mental disorder, I have never said anything even close to that. My point is that if transsexuality is a mental disorder the correct treatment is to cure the mental disorder, not indulge it.

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>>6214229
I didn't say except for quitting

>>6214237
Lmao your levels are way off no wonder you look like garbage.

>>6214243
>>6214229
By which I mean my family are assholes who can't read emotions unless they're literally being screamed at them

>>6214248
Thanks anon... That's actually kinda funny. Made me smile a little.

>>6214252
Floor is not comfy, but floor does not judge. Floor deserves hugs.

>>6214261
less jokes more helping pls

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is anyone here adopted? (and trans)

I just had a pretty messed up dream about that :/

also I'm awake now and I remembered to take my estrogen so I'm de-detransitioning
Hi everyone!!!!!!!

>>6214268
>way off
Actually those numbers are fine

>>6214237
That explains your torpedo tits

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>>6214258
Regardless of these issues with current medication, pursuing a drug that combats the mental illness would be a much better treatment than extensive expensive surgeries that don't treat the mental illness.

I've got some pretty GOAT penis stank right now if any of you girls are interested?

>>6214273
Hi.
Adopted. Trans. And really friggin sad right now. What's the dream?

>>6214262
Hons get gendered female all the time

>>6214272
Not joking, marshal

>>6214252
>>tell people about things you've helped actually DO
>>problems you've fixed
>>plans you've developed
like from previous job experiences? does it count if it were unpayed jobs that you're not listing in your resume? do you just bring that up or work it into some presentation from the get go? Where did you go looking for the job?
I'm not really that much of an autist, but I still want details in case I can get something I haven't realized.

>>6214273
aayyy

that dream sounds messed, and my parents neglected me enough I might as well have been adopted rofl

>>6214278
ur gross. lol

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>>6214273
Detransition, the stuff of nightmares.

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>>6214281
I've never been gendered female.

>>6214289
You don't leave the house

>>6214287
i would literally kms if I detransitioned. Prolly within a week.

>>6214289
I got gendered female once when I was 17 by some old guy that dropped his glasses

>>6214283
Err.. I got pulled out of school by my boss directly. I didn't go looking for it. When you're skilled people notice I guess.

I would list that stuff anyway as volunteer or intern experience, having a complete record is better than bringing up stuff out of nowhere.

>>6214292
this, trutrans4lyfe

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>>6214224
I waited too long

>>6214228
>No theres a drug that makes you stop feeling dysphoria,
there is not. the one youre referring to is a meme and has never been used on a transperson in clinical trial. its beyond silly to bring it up unironically.

>Any psychiatrist will tell you that indulging on the fantasies of a mentally ill patient is a very bad thing.
its a bad thing until it its not.
removing half your lung is a bad idea for a healthy individual. it can be lifesaving if you have cancer or something though. in medicine, the end justifies the means. the wellbeing of the patient is imperative, the highest level of wellbeing is currently achievable through transition. in most other mental illnesses other approaches yield better results.

>its just men mutilating themselves
yes, that IS transsexuality in essence.

>Coming up with terms to label it is meaningless
and still youd die for one? thats interesting.

>>6214258
the one (ONE) subject cited in the study had a bunch of other disorders, and was a fetishistic crossdresser, not actually trans

>>6214259
stop being so far away from my life ;~;

>>6214292
lol you would look and sound exactly as you do now

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>>6214239
Probably sibling rivalry but still like there's shit she shouldn't go for. I wouldn't go for her being fat or her history of self harm or something, she shouldn't make hurtful jokes about me being trans either. She just told me it's because I did make a joke about something that does hurt her so I guess I have another thing to add to the list. Still, it's not the first time she's done it so it's not like this changes much.
>>6214243
It's amazing how family can ignore the most obvious signs you're upset so casually. My dad does all the time because he's not good at handling emotions.
Don't lay in the floor, at least treat yourself to your bed, you deserve that much.
>>6214242
Both.
My appearance was utter shite because I didn't give a shit because I was trying to repress dysphoria and make being trans go away. The way I acted was basically either how I am now or me trying to overcompensate or something to repress.
Transition has motivated me to do a lot of stuff to get my shit together and it's helped me a ton. I care about my appearance now, how I dress, how I look, I want to put time and effort into things, and how I act has gotten so much better because I'm free to just be me now.
>>6214265
oh
>>6214287
I'd rather fucking die.

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>>6214190
>>6214195
>>6214201

these are all real possibilities desu

>>6214205

it doesn't matter how much i sleep, i'm alwaaays tired. i think i need more estrogen or to lower my spiro. but i'm already only on 100mg a day sooo

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>>6214273
Flannel!!!!! you named your whismur after me!!!!

you have to give it the everstone!!!!!!!

promise me you'll never let it become an Exploud!!!!! pleeeeeeeeeeese!!!!!!!

>MFW flannel doesn't want to give me the everstone

>>6214264
It would be a better treatment, but it doesn't exist at the moment, HRT and shit is the only thing close to a treatment so people can at least attempt to have a normal life.

Which is also why it should be considered as abnormal, illness, deformity, whatever you want to call it, so eventually there can be a better treatment.

>>6214277
Not really. Pursuing a drug for a problem without a clear cause and that you could never actually test* is just a cash grab for farmaceuticals. We can't even get a 100% secure flu vaccine any year, antidepressants work in almost random patterns and other mental problems are treated with even less success.
*(since you'd need to round up at least a few hundred confirmed open transexuals who want to stop being something they had to fight to accept, and then giving a third of them just placebo; and then see the results for the next 10+ years somehow identifying actual changes and not just shutting up about their issues)

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>>6214224
>>6214296
whoops
I waited too long to get a new script and ran out. I have a script now but I am too depressed to hand it in, I also dont know if I can afford the 50-70 bucks or something.

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>>6214291
I've never been gendered female when I left my apartment though.

>>6214299
My bed is stupid. The floor is nice and hard. And it's been kind to me. I might go under my bed though. It's cosy and small in there and I can be safe for a bit before the darkness sets in and the monsters come out.


Sorry, I'm... I thought I was over this. Apparently not.

>>6214298
false actually. if you knew me pre hrt there's rdy significant changed that have happened.

but besides that the idea of living as a man is unbearable for me even if my outside doesn't match the inside right now

>>6214306
And you never will

>>6214259
Just until Saturday. Then it finally goes back home. To all of my shit. And my privacy.

But c'mon, if it's only temporary you can hardly call it being a NEET. You have education and training completed. Stop the self-depreciation goddamnit D:

With a degree in STEM, that''s also like, P R O S P E C T S galore. But what's that field you have your foot in the door of?

>>6214306
I bet you don't get gendered at all because people don't do that shit in civilised countries. You need to actually be out and about everyday to judge how you're gendered.

>>6214300
I mean my spiro was at 300 for a long time but overtime made me tired, dropped to 200 for a couple years then same thing, now I'm only on 100 so you might have to get it dropped more shrug

my levels are fine constantly tho so its not that

>>6214304
rip

>>6214280
>>6214284
>in dream
>find out I'm adopted
>me and my parents go to meet birth parents
>I'm in girlmode
>"hi I'm your uhh... Son"
>bewildered looks
>my parents ended up getting screamed at for "making me like this" and "brainwashing me"
>complicated legal shit happens
>taken away from parents
>birth parents make me detransition
idek why I didn't realise I'm 18 and can't just get ordered into a different family by courts but jesus I did not enjoy that dream lol

>>6214287
exactly

>>6214301
okay!! :D
where do I find an everstone?

>>6214273
I dreamed pot worked as an AA...

>>6214309
You are living as a man

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>>6214317
Just give me a week or so and Ill be the Ladykiller of the general.

>>6214281
Nice
>>6214282
wat
>>6214304
want me to send you some ?
didn't take any spare ones with me to vaterland :(

>>6214320
This....

Well. I'm not going to be confronting my birthmother anytime soon... or maybe I should do it sooner?

And now I'm feeling even worse. Thanks for telling me anyway. I'm just being a moodyboots because I'm insane and my brain wants me to die.

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>>6214310
I know

>>6214316
I bet they think I look male though.
Don't even remember the last time I was called him or he but i'm almost certain most people think I look male, wish we got gendered here ;_;

>>6214328
I can guarantee I've been lewd with the most people out of anyone in this thread.. except edie

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>>6214296
Id die rather than go back to life as a man, correct. Id rather die than take medication that changed my personality to the point where I no longer wanted to be female.

Regardless of the current state of dysphoria treating medication, the science of them should be pursued because if we are just mentally ill men, being not mentally ill men is a far higher level of wellbeing than being a freak.

I think you're completely wrong Phien, I think you've been listening too much to /pol/ and I believe that advocating transsexuality as a mental illness is self hate.

If you are just a mentally ill man, as you have argued in these last few posts- why don't you just detransition? This being a woman thing is a lie thats unattainable, you're living a lie. Come back to reality and stop taking hormones.

>>6214287
Don't worry hon, I'm working hard to make sure the hons are stripped of their hrt

>>6214293
you just need to poke people in the eyes when you meet them and you'll 100% pass!!

>>6214296
>he one (ONE) subject cited in the study
how is that even a stufy? and then people say that social sciences are a joke...

>>its just men mutilating themselves
>yes, that IS transsexuality in essence.
well, no, also women mutilating themselves. don't be mean to minorities amon minorities, phien.

>>6214327
lol this

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>>6214289
Some 6yo called me 'a woman' in the bus once, though the more I think of it she might have meant someone else. Hon's life for me

>>6214299
I'm glad I'm not alone in that coming to terms with being trans helped me out a bunch. even without HRT

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I'm not on HRT but I'm considering buying a training bra

I'd just like to be wearing one

>>6214323
thatd be amazing

also imagine all the cute stoner boys slowly turning into femboys and maybe girls

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>>6214292
I would kill myself if faced with detransition, Id rather die than be a man again. There is no greater hell imaginable.

>>6214299
Same, if they ever start treating transexuality as a mental disorder and treat it with dysphoria ridding medications as opposed to transition, again I would kill myself.

>>6214320
Id rather die than be a man again.

>tfw feeling like shit but you get some wonderful news.

It's gonna be OK I think

>>6214337
I'm comfortable living a lie, and you seem to be too.

>>6214357
Don't worry moap, I'll make sure you're stripped of you hrt

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>>6214350
I've only been called she by hugboxers.

>>6214299
>She just told me it's because I did make a joke about something that does hurt her so I guess I have another thing to add to the list. Still, it's not the first time she's done it so it's not like this changes much.
you can talk about it, you're lucky. a lot of girls here are pretty much hated by their families.

>>6214300
Sleep tight, fuckers!

oversleeping gets you more sleepy, and unregular sleeping schedules do too.

>>6214304
why don't just drink pregnant mare piss? It will make you apreciate the simple life.

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>>6214363
Yeah basically

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>>6214296
How 2 move 2 germany?
;~;

>>6214311
Nice, well at least it will be over soon. Is there not a bunch of cool stuff to see in the meantime though? ;~;

Also, fair enough, but I'm usually pretty down on myself, it's just sort of in my nature. I'll rephrase though: I have a degree and graduated into a terrible crashing job market and am currently unemployed ;~;

There's certainly prospects with a STEM degree but it's a matter of the issue that so many people are vying for those same prospects. Other than lab work or research work, there's stuff like government work, policy analysts and the like. Just general stuff that requires an aptitude for maths and sciences that isn't necessarily a science job.

>>6214268
what? I thought the goal was no T and all E

>>6214369
your levels are fine, that anon who is probably larry is just being a dickhead

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>>6214302
HRT and gender transition distance you from a normal life, it is a deestructive treatment that exposes people to ridicule, trauma, hatred, and danger. If you are a medical professional who believes dysphoria is a mental illness and not a physical deformity, and you still prescribe hormones, you're a mad scientist who deserves to lose his license.

In leiu of an effective drug, verbal therapy would still be far more effective at dissuading the illness than HRT would. Again, if transsexuality is a mental illness than pushing transition on these men is cruel and wrong. Being a tranny is far worse than being a mentally ill man.

>>6214303
This is just an excuse so that your theory never gets put to the test, its not a mental illness and this is why medical proffesionals dont try to undergo these tests.

You should detransition if this is how you feel, by the way.

>>6214366
>terrible crashing job market

This is what happens for being born in Alberta.

oh and also
>phone rings really early in the morning
>"h-hello?" (pls no judge I can't answer with a name because there are still people I'm not out to)
>"oh sorry did I wake you up?"
>"no no it's fine"
>"well I'm just calling about the time for next week"
>"oh maybe you should call my mum on her mobile"
>"who is this?"
>"it's [my name]"
>"oh I thought this was [mother's name] - you both sound the same!"
this was a good feeling the first time it happened, but I am NOT comfortable with phone calls, and getting into potentially several minutes of conversation where I have no idea who the other person is or what they want and they expect me to know all this shit, is not fun for me

>>6214323
lmao

>>6214355
>also imagine all the cute stoner boys slowly turning into femboys and maybe girls
oh god the femboys
this post is making me feel things

>>6214357
well yeah that's kind of the direction the dream started taking

>>6214332
>I'm insane and my brain wants me to die
yyeeeeah I remember that feeling :/

>And now I'm feeling even worse
;_;

>>6214355
But it made weed extremely expensive and somehow it came in pills that you could put in line and smoke.
I felt sort of bad for my stoner friends without disphoria during the dream.

>>6214350
I used to be called a girl all the time around age 12 even with an unibrow.
If only I had transitioned then.

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>>6214376
>your levels are fine
what would perfect levels be?

>>6214377
>HRT and gender transition distance you from a normal life
yeah no

do I have to start posting my pre-transition diary again? If that was a normal life then god am I fucking glad to have distanced myself from it

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>>6214300
Edie! I got my SPIRO!!! I'm so happy I'm freaking out! I got it at the supermarket! Hahahaha..pic related

>>6214320
Ummm I forgot where you get it. I thought a profs assistant gave it to you, but I might be wrong. :( press b in the meantime pleeeeeese!

>>6214381
What? There's nothing wrong with answering the phone with hello, it's like the most normal thing in the world.

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>>6214378
Born a tranny in Alberta and graduated during an oil crash

RIP

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>>6214381
I'm so crazy that I'm keeping track of it though...

It's the only way I'll be able to tell the psyche what it feels like before everything goes numb.

>>6214377
>This is just an excuse so that your theory never gets put to the test, its not a mental illness and this is why medical proffesionals dont try to undergo these tests.
It's how drug test works, it's not an excuse. I'm happy as a woman and I wouldn't like to take drugs that make me "normal" or something like that. I'm saying that you simply can't make a drug for something you don't know the cause and couldn't test in any form.
I'm not sure what part of my post made you think I considered it just an illness to cure, I do think it's a brain issue more than anything else but jumping from there to wanting it "fixed" is a long distance. There is no cure for synesthesia and I've never heard of anyone wanting to change that part of their brain, it still comes from there.

>>6214320
idk if its the same in the remake but you find it in a rock in the cave in dewford, on the way to meet steven

>>6214394
aren't you like a hot shot chemist? get a job in that

>>6214377
waht?

Umm yeah, there's a blackout in this country right now :(

>>6214377
Lots of people manage to live a normal life while going through HRT. It's certainly better than spending your whole life with anxiety and depression.

Sure it doesn't work for everyone, but this goes for most treatments.

And again it sure as hell isn't a perfect solution but it's the best one there is right now.

>>6214391
>got my SPIRO
Congrats =)

>>6214394
Could be worse you could live in Edson.

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>>6214360
Detransition or kill yourself then, you mentally ill freak.

>>6214361
Ill make sure your family is stripped of their will to live after hours of grueling torture.

>>6214381
At this rate we're all biting the bullet eventually.

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>>6214335
really? I dont even remember you senpai

>>6214331
>want me to send you some ?
>didn't take any spare ones with me to vaterland :(

thanks for the offer, but Ill probably go to the pharmacy sometime this or next week.

>>6214337
youre jumping to conclusions based on your own assumption that being mentally ill is devalues us. its doesnt devalue us. its a simple truth.

>Id die rather than go back to life as a man, correct. Id rather die than take medication that changed my personality to the point where I no longer wanted to be female.

same, a new treatment killing the feminity in us now would be murder because you cant just change the core identity of a person. newer treatment would have to be applied to pretransitioners, ideally it should be fixed in the womb or shortly after birth. it should under NO circumstances be tried out on post transitioners.

>why don't you just detransition?
too much effort. I should kill myself instead. being a tranny isnt my only mental illness anyway, so nothing of worth would be lost.

>I think you're completely wrong Phien

that is your right. essentially, youre afraid of being labelled as not-a-woman thats pretty natural, I was at that stage myself a while ago. Reality is though that we re way closer to sterilized men than natal women. the problem is that general transphobia makes people think
that is a bad thing on a social level. its not though. how we live our lives is nobodies business at least until people are easily curable before transitioning.


>>6214346
iirc it was american or british, they do this shit regularly.
>tfw Curtis published a study with NO SUBJECTS

>>6214364
no ;-;

>>6214366
I-Idk ;~;
Id need a friend tho, specifically (you)

>>6214391
resize your fr*aking pics!

>>6214377
>exposes people to ridicule, trauma, hatred, and danger
oh and this is bullshit too

before I transitioned I got pushed around and called 'faggot' and shit sooo fucking much, especially in high school
since transition no one cares because now it's normal for me to be acting / talking like a girl
so yeah, you're retarded

>>6214415
Ok mei führer

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>>6214382
>If only I had transitioned then.
Yeah at this point my life feels like it's just an endless purgatory filled with regret

>>6214411
Thanks! :)

>>6214415
Stupid electricity died in my country so I can't answer via skype. Just phone

>>6214412
I was born in Edson and then moved to Niton Junction when I was 2 and then to Kelowna in BC when I was 6 and I still live here whats up senpai

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>>6214415
was the study on how hard it is to do a proper study