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uhhh let's all be happy now edition

▶ Informed consent providers:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶ Trans Info Dump:http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶ Beginner makeup resources:http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶ Size charts:http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training:http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶ HRT info:https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC:https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶ Zeemaps:https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
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1st for tfw no pookie gf
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janitorsan, please delete the diaper edition, not this one.

thanks
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>Tfw dead inside because never had life
only ever online

>TFW NEET at 24

>TFW will be hon forever

fml
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>>6184956
you forgot the previous thread link >>6184073
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>>6184956
psilocybin?
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I miss happy.
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>>6184945
hey it me
>>6184932
ya u do
>>6184929
ree
>>6184930
you'd be hecka cute if you smiled.
hecka
>>6184935
I ree'd pretty heavily earlier.
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>tfw you're so horny for my owner but I have to wait a couple days to be with him
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first for there's no such thing as asian passing privilege.
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>>6184966
w-what?
>Best guess for this image: 17β estradiol
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>>6184956
Wow way to jack sheens thunder you biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch
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we're gonna use that diapers edition eventually whether you guys like it or not

diapers rule flannels drool
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I feel sad for sheen!
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Much better
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>>6184975
she deleted her thread

>>6184977
NO ONE WANTS TO USE THE DIAPER THREAD
AND THIS ISN'T A FLANNEL EDITION IT'S JUST MY NAME
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>>6184966
huh. so it is.
very astute of you to notice
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>>6184974
yeah no i was def wrong; just feel like ive used the same wikipedia-lifted chemical diagram for something
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>>6184963
>iktf desu
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How do I become a popular trip?

I'm pretty old so I don't know if I could do it. I also don't like posting pictures.
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>>6184982
no no other-poster was right, it's estradiol

for some reason i thought estradiol looked more insane
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>>6184985
>>6184963
threadly reminder that if you make things people like you can be a hon and everyone will like you.
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>tfw you can't pick which game to play while trying to wait to hear what you did

My choices are:
Doom
Enter the gungeon
Stellaris

And maybe
Total war l: warhammer
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>>6184988
start dating another trip or a chaser
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>>6184989
ok
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>>6184988
you have to be pretty like me
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>>6184963
Hey I can relate. You're 2 years ahead of me age-wise but other than that we got the same stuff, I'll be a hon by the time I could somehow start living my life. FML indeed
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>>6184989
psilocybin is nice though
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>>6184993
no more of this
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>>6184988
pictures
are
the
key
:D
also if ur cute pics p ls
>>6184992
ahh idk then
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>>6184993
i did that and didn't get popular, it definitely needs to be combined with a lot of trip or namefag posting, possibly pictures
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>>6184995
what if Iron Maiden's Eddie was trans?
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>>6184988
be pretty

>>6184992
doom or bust
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I think y'all use "hon" too much.
When I think "hon", I think this picture, honestly, anyone who transitions before 26 is probably not a hon.
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>>6184970
>tfw no owner
>>6184992
I don't have any of these but I really want to play Gungeon, just kinda broke rn
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>>6185000
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>>6185004
This is basically what I look like on a daily basis
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>>6184993
Don't really want to do either of those. I date former trip, but I don't really care to mention who.
>>6184995
I'm pretty, but not posting pics.
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>>6184998
i agree a lot. v necessary human right.

i'm really biased towards negative thinking tho so even it isn't working for me atm. really want cannabidiol or some serenic and return to normal life and consumables from there
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>>6185000
what if I post pics of pretty girls and insist they are me? would that work?
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>>6185009
>I date former trip
who is it
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>>6185007
that aint u
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>>6184988
The formula is to say hello, ask a question, respond to everyone who responds to you, always add a picture, avatar fagging is best, but always rotate who you avatar is, once you get establish, form groups, and use them to talk about everyone
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>>6185004
>When I think "hon", I think this picture
That could be anyone past 18 without godtier genes or FFS though ;;
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>>6185008
i may be totally wrong but it sounds like you might be in a sad mood maddie
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my shoulder is so fucking degenerate and shit looking holy moly
>>6185011
unfortunatley no.
i tried that.
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hey /mtfg/, quick survey time:

1. Age you started on HRT

2. Years + months on HRT

3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time

4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
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>>6185015
She looks like Clark Kent, I'd say she had great genes for a male.
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>>6184988
be a qt
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>>6184965

>clients, fuckbuddies, dying of AIDS
woah anon, i'm sorry about all that.... sex work is definitely hard, and it confuses things :/
i have a reaaaaaaaaaallllllllyyyyyy awful time with dissociation though because of all the abuse i went through.
when something happens that hurts me it's like something clicks and i just...stop being me. and me goes really far away. it sucks.

>>6184988

why would you want that?
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tfw you love your girlfriend sooooo much

: )
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>>6185004
more like "i need "hon" because". but yeah it's more for the bitter cases who demand heavy emotional maintenance and humouring--and uh esp when they demand sex
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>>6185018
what's wrong with your shoulder isla
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>>6185015
Forgot to put "past 18 without HRT"
>>6185020
Probably. Could probably pass also with enough HRT and FFS
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>>6185002
I'm trans-eddie
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>>6185019
1) 19
2) 15 months
3) 7 months
4) 9 months I guess?
But I'm not mtf though.
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>first night in a month I don't have any weed
>cry in bed, wake up and cry again
eh, it seems to suck to be sober at night.
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>>6184992
you should play the eating rat poison game
the way you play it is by eating as much rat poison as possible
if you die, you win!
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>>6185018
youre so depressing omg
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Anyone interested in a suicide pact? the only thing that scares me about killing myself is dying alone. So if someone would die with me or even be there while I kill myself that'd help a lot.

My plan involves lots of various types of drugs and anti-nausea medication.

I'm from Ohio btw, anyone down? You can get a free trip out of it at least. Like get fucked up and watch some pathetic retard kill themselves. Sounds cool eh?
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>>6185012
Not saying.
>>6185014
I see. I'll give it a shot.
>>6185000
Not posting pics. I'm cute too. Everyone is missing out.
>>6185022
Because I have no friends.
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>>6185028
We could call people with anorexia trans-eddies.
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>>6185034
at least post your butt that's the least you can do
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
24
>2. Years + months on HRT
1 year
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
never
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
never
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>>6185019
17
9 months
-1 month
day 0
according to public gendering
i think it was like
pity gendering
>>6185023
tfw idktf
>>6185025
https://unsee.cc
/nuragedo/
>>6185032
no like look at this
its funny
>>6185034
If you don't post pics ur a liar.
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>>6185015
it could but
>tumblr tier haircut
>terrible outfit choice for broad shoulders
really aren't doing that hon any good either
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>>6185019
18
6 months
n/a
n/a
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>>6185034
is it birdy
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>>6185038
id rather see your tits or pussy
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>>6185019

1. i didn't start being consistent on HRT till i was 23.
2. 14 months
3. i've been full time for 5 years.
4. i started passing all the time after i trained my voice...which i didn't do for the first 2-3 years lol

>>6185034

well...why not make some friends irl?
you could make friends here too, but idk, that seems less fulfilling. like i love the people here but it's not a substitution.
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
blockers at 16, estrogen at 18
>2. Years + months on HRT
1 month of estrogen so far
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
uhhh
negative 2 years?
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
idk I haven't been gendered male since I transitioned
I guess I pass as an ugly girl
or at the very least everyone knows what I'm going for and is too polite about it to say anything
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
21
>2. Years + months on HRT
11
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
i dont because no genes/makeup/clothes/voice/ffs
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
i dont because no genes/makeup/clothes/voice/ffs
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>>6185033
get out of ohio
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>>6185043
i have a dick
sry
also i dont wanna post :v
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>>6185019
1. 18
2. 1 year, 2 months
3. N/A
4. N/A
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>>6185033
where in Ohio?
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>>6185049
can you post a pic sometime of you in your full puppy jammies
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>>6185046
11 months into HRT that is, not 11 years
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>>6185049
faggot
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>>6185035
I used to be a spooky skeleton but now I'm fat
I just look like that because I have very hollow cheeks
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>>6185038
ouch. hope that gets better
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>>6185053
come on, we all know you're 32 y/o.
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>>6185051
powell

we can do it in the woods behind my house. low key as fuck.
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>>6185057
Might as well be
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>>6185038
your shoulders are fun
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>>6185036
No butt to post.
>>6185038
I guess I'm a liar then.
>>6185042
I'll go ahead and say I wont address any guesses about who I'm dating.
>>6185044
I'm a shut-in
>>6185019
17
7y9m
3m
5m
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>>6185010
>i'm really biased towards negative thinking tho so even it isn't working for me atm
mind mindset and setting, if you're biased towards negative thinking you'll just get negativity from it, be more careful ~

>>6185019
>27
>8.5 months on E
>lol
>yesterday in two separate passing glances

>>6185050
>4. N/A

more like "every day"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWlnBWVQLE
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>>6185055
post pic
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>>6185057
don't be mean to puru!

I don't want to have to slap a bitch
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What's your favorite friend simulator outside of 4chan?

>Red Letter Media
>Best Friends Play
>whatever digibro does
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>>6185063
ha so it is birdy
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>>6185031
I wanted to kill myself a long time ago, now I figure it's best that I stay alive, as I'm honestly working on becoming a figure for good again.
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>>6185062
>fine
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>>6185064
I was only counting consistent passing
I didn't even realize you were in here, somehow
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
17
>2. Years + months on HRT
15 y
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
i dress in a way that isn't very gendered so idk
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
sparsely by a few months. where i wasn't called he by strangers ever anymore like a year or so? really long time ago for me to remember v well tho tho
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
19
>2. Years + months on HRT
5 years 9 months
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
2 months
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
8 months sometimes, 1 year consistently
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>>6185071
fuck off faggot
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>>6184991
I write cyber punk fiction, or I used to. I used to write first person erotica too. Now I just lay on the floor, smoke pot, drink booze, and basically force myself to not shoot dope, buy more drugs online, hack into bank accounts and facebook accounts like I did when i was 13 (stakes higher, security tighter a decade out), etc.

Now I have a dream of making my own anime, but I can't draw and I'm very disorganized. I don't know where to find help. I'm a professional with very little to show for it because I don't want any of my old writing attached to my new personality, especially online if I ever decide to not kill myself and go to war with the pharma companies in the US as a journalist (encryption is something I've always kept close).


Idk wtf to do anymore.
If anyone is a draw fag I might be able to pay you. I get a ton of people always trying to solicit me on reddit with their bullshit "art" but I need some fucking weebs that can draw kawaii desuni animoo~<3 rave girls... not some desperate clowns seeking money whores of leddit.
Seriously if anyone knows anyone that can draw legit anime even as just a character reference sheet I can market to others to help me organize a legit show production lemme know.

>TFW being age 24 and actually having some merit of worth with my writing

>mfw I'm not TOTALLY WORTHLESS but only MOSTLY totally worthless </3
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>>6185070
videos of cute cis girls eating interesting foods
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>>6185067
I'm stealth to half the people who know me and not out to the other half so I doubly can't

they're not THAT bad I guess
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>>6185064
>>27
>>8.5 months on E
>>lol
>>yesterday in two separate passing glances
wait, what
You can do that?
I'm 26 and I have already skipped all the steps to acceptance, is it possible to pass when your bones are already solidified?
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>>6185052
here
just 4 u anony
>>6185054
yeah ik
sry
>>6185056
yeah i have really fucked shoulders
>>6185062
>Fine
UHHUH
YEAH LOL
>>6185063
reeeeaaa
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>tfw have a bf and crushing hard on an ex
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>>6185070
RLM are my best friends desu
Sleepycast is also pretty good
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>>6185077
how about you fight me in real life bucko
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>>6185079
>cute
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>>6185074
you consistently pass all the time, even in the frumpiest boy clothes

everyone at my workplace sees you as girl
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>>6185068
I-I was just joking

>>6185060
I really have no way of knowing, I assumed a 32 year old in 4chan would be a depressing image we could laugh at without being hurt.
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>>6185019
1. 24
2. 7 years
3. i'm not entirely sure i do that
4. ~8 months
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>>6185085
awwwee :(
sorry ;;
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>>6185088
kill yourself you pube bearded piece of shit teenager
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>>6185063

oh i think i know who you are. why did you decide to start tripping now? you've been anon for awhile, right?

>>6185085

they're an ex for a reason desu
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>>6185084
>just 4 u anony
isla i cant handle it it's too cute
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>>6185077
leave and die chaser
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>>6185045
ps do I count as an early transitioner like >>6136531 was on about?

I can't wait to start relentlessly mocking everyone >:D
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>>6185094
fat in that pic
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>>6185095
wait do you think i'm birdy
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>>6185019
>1. Age you started on HRT
n/a :(
>2. Years + months on HRT
0
>3. Years + months into HRT you started presenting female full time
n/a
>4. Years + months into HRT you started passing (if applicable)
n/a
>>
>>6185019
21
2 years 8 months
1 year
i don't pass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD_L4FLFj2Y
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>>6185064
>mind mindset and setting
yeah i try to by staying at home within the familiar, it always used to work. now doesn't :/ i actually used to pour the negative feelings out on paper and they'd be out of me, privately, and i would be healthier for months after. i really don't know what's happened.
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>>6185096
Haven't really been here in quite a while.
I just want to have casual online friends.
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>>6185105
yeah we were on a freeway and i had the window open to take a picture, my hair wasfucked :p
>>6185098
well i am wearing them and they are comfy and im all sleepy like
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>>6185099
go pretend to have ovaries hon
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>>6185019
First time 16y7m, 3y4m, -1y5, -2y7
Second time 48, 2.1, ?, ?

>>6185022
I did high end. I was made an offer I couldn't refuse. So I negotiated, and ended up with my first client. He even helped me get on hormones. Before I got that gig I was going out and fucking older men and women just for the company. I had my drug problems in that period too. I was majorly fucked up from abuse.
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>>6185091
>would be a depressing image we could laugh at without being hurt
Well I'll be probs like 32 by the time I can afford FFS or anything like that so I'll have to hon it up 'til then. We can all laugh at that
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>>6185078
Animu is just not something that makes money, check the payrates of professionals in Japan. Even directors make less than the top 50k youtubers.

I rejected my dreams of animu and decided to work on novels. I had a good time with the first 30 pages of something but I'm not paying the price of not making a clear structure and synopsis before starting. I also tried some fantasy stuff since I had an interesting setting but it's just not my thing.

I used to know a namefag from /co/ who got an incredibly good penciler in the UK aiming for 2000AD, his trick was practically living in 4chan+ or whatever it was called and constantly helping artists to come up with plots around their designs.

But motivation is a really hard thing to get. Probably the most important thing.
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everything I have ever done and everything I ever will do is wrong
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>>6185119
hey there's someone else who went fulltime pre mones!

wait, second time? huh?
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>>6185114

....wait..........
you're a girl, right?

>>6185119

do you still do sex work, or have you moved on from it now? i'm sorry that you went through abuse as well :/
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>>6185079
>cat jazz
wut?

>>6185086
Love them but they don't produce enough to fill the hole in my life. Let's players are the best for that.
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>>6185123
basically me desu
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>>6185113
try being in the outdoors, like along a forested bike path, especially during the day with the sun shining... life in a box isn't great for mental health and psilocybin will exacerbate the pros and cons of your environment and your mindset

maybe bring a notebook and a pen when you go for the walk ~

>>6185083
it's not about the bones, or something... i don't really understand what happened or why
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>>6185110
iktf
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>>6185116
low effort cookie-cutter insult bro

>>6185119
was that back when you just had to take massive amounts of estrogen because AAs didn't exist yet?
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>>6185110
you can still work on things and even present
I do and part timer now
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>>6185116
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>>6185085
I had a weird ex day myself, one ex messaged me and said she was acting poorly because she was jealous of this girl I had been seeing, and another like has been messaging me constantly out of nowhere after telling me she always pictured us having children together
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>>6185125
Yeah?
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my tummy hurts
[screee]
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>haven't seen parents in years
>they think I'm currently working on an oil field in texas as the manly men they knew
>in reality I'm a full-time girl sucking cock in SF while scraping every bit of money to get SRS
ayyy
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>>6185131
but is really possible to pass so late? my only career choice right now is teaching HS, which pays more than enough for me to work those 4 hours a week and smoke weed the rest of the day like a complete looser. It's an automatic legal change of gender here just by asking for it, so I could move to another city and be stealth. But I really don't wanna be a walking joke when I could just be a closeted one...
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>>6185119
I'm so sad that I did escort work, I felt so used, but at least none of the men hurt me...

I'm a dumb useless whore and I'm not sure why I'm even graduating...

Haha, late night bad thoughts, right? I miss kaylee so badly.
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>>6185142
You probably caught a nasty case of pregnant while you were disentangling yourself from all those dicks
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>>6185138

you're not the girl who used to date elanna, right?
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>>6185147
no, i'm still anon
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>>6185146
what
the heck
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>>6185149

L M A O
HI
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>>6185113
Listen to Neil Gaiman reading his short story How To Talk To Girls At Parties, in the begining he explains his creative process for that short story and it really makes writing feel easier and more natural
http://neilgaiman.com/Cool_Stuff/Short_Stories/How_To_Talk_To_Girls_At_Parties
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>>6185150
Iunno I just tried to think of the meanest thing I could say in that situation
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>>6185147
Refer to >>6185063
>I'll go ahead and say I wont address any guesses about who I'm dating.

Either way I'm sure we haven't really talked in the past other than maybe one or two short exchanges.
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>>6185078
still here?
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>>6185137
it's the magic of having Eddy around, you've scaled 13 places in the social chain.

>>6185145
Once you have a steady job your life will stabilize a lot.
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>tfw finally reaching the end of the thread and realizing you'll have to wait minutes and minutes before you have something else to talk about

>>6185159
are you a drawfag? I might want to steal you from her if that's the case.
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>>6185156
that was rude...
;-;
i don't get tangled in lots of dicks.
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>>6185151
Hi! It's nice that someone remembers me without knowing me by other names on skype/irc/steam.
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>>6185164
but you DO get pregnant.
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>>6185144
i really don't know anon... i've been gendered female like... four times ever, it's just that recently i lucked out on having two of those events happening in the same day

it's hard to find an accurate middle ground between hugboxing friends and anon people who call you a faggot under their breath on the street
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>>6185145
>>6185143
hey, you don't have to feel bad about your job, it's ok, we do what we have to sometimes, and it's not like you are doing something that hurts people and destroys their health like drug dealing.
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I love her so much....
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>>6185124
Stuffed into conversion therapy at 20. Fucked me up worse than I already was. Bad thing is the relationships I had going before that, i was healing from my past. Genuine love does wonders.

>>6185125
No, it ended with the conversion therapy. I feel like my life ended then, and I'm only finally getting it restarted. In less than a year I likely would have ended the clientness of the one remaining client I had then. We likely would have remained close friends after that. I'd married my gf, and it would have been bad for him to be seen to be going out with a married "woman". Yes, they all knew about each other and even met.

>>6185133
Yeah, I did. I don't remember my dose, but it zapped my T. Spiro was just starting to be used in that same period.

>>6185152
Neil is a hoot. I've talked to him a few times at science fiction conventions. We have some common friends.
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>>6185171
>it's not like you are doing something that hurts people and destroys their health like drug dealing.
or cam girls who take gifts from lonely men
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>>6185078
>tfw drawfag
>tfw /ic/ convinced me that animu is shit tier for making money with art
>now i wish i wouldn't have listened because fine/concept/illustration fields are ridiculously hard to get into
>as a result im not proficient at anything and just a shitty hobbyist
kekkandlel, maybe i'll practice animus kronprinz style by tracing over (anime)screencaps until i make 20k a month on patreon
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>>6185167
im pregnant
with food
>>6185172
i feel similarly.
im just not good enough for her though
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>>6185166
my mom and grandma are going on vacation for a few days near where you live if you see them make sure to say hi
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>>6185168
Yeah, I know. I'm not gonna post pics and ask if I could ever pass or that stuff. I just wanted to know a bit about your experience. Were you working before starting or did you search for a job after that? Do you go fulltime and don't care about people or do you go in malemode until it stops working? Do you see yourself failing malemode any time soon (if you use it)? Do you live in a very hugboxy city where people will stand you even if they hate you or you're potentially dealing with harassment and crap?
Anything else you might want to share I'd love to read it.
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i may pass out and seepy
sorry if i do
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>>6185177
get dat fanbase
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>>6185179
Will do. How will I know who they are though? I don't even know who you are.
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>>6185172
you just like her because she makes you pass better
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>>6185171
Yeah, but I should be productive instead of sucking dick for money...
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>>6185157

oh, well alright.
so! how are you, new trip? you probably need a new name that isn't populartrip t b h.

>>6185166

you were pretty nice, so. happy to hear you're still around.

>>6185174

wtf your life sounds insane. how old are you now?
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>>6185184
That is a lie.
I don't care about passing.
She makes me feel happy
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>>6185162
none of my exes are trans, this small microcosim has 0 influence on my real life.
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>>6185182
What's better for that than drawing popular culture characters in anime style with chromatic aberration up the wazoo? Probably nothing. At least sakimi can do anatomy and that shit is hard as fuck by comparison
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>>6185177
I too am a shitty hobbyist, but I've never really done animu style. Do you do digital stuff or traditional?
>>6185187
How does this name sound?
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>>6185187
I've been around almost since the beginning, but no one person knows all the shit I've been linked to. The transient life of an anon.
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>>6185152
neat ty. i'm a shitty reader and a writer and idk if that will ever change. i'm always p stream of consciousness and prone to making none of the sense i intend to. it's more that it helps me identify shit inside i can't normally access and planting words physically onto paper just feels grounding in some way. i rarely go back and read what i write--or well sometimes i do, but i still suck. i appreciate the link tho and will try to read it. thanks! :)
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>tfw work in 1 hour
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>>6185177
if you mildly pass you could get tons of horny teens dreaming of traps and futa, is a more distant way of camwhoring.
but seriously, there's nothing that makes traditional arts not aplicable to animu. I've seen guys in /ic/ fixing generic shit while staying in the inteded "style" and a lot of big name mangakas studied fine arts.
Just keep doing it. Make youtube videos, train your voice while making fans and make a patreon.
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>>6185189
except for edie
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>>6185180
i'm boymode 100% of the time, although my gf and several other friends inform me that my boymode is terrible and failing, and summer weather will only make it more impossible... both of my recent jobs, post starting HRT, were "i'm a guy and i can do this thing for you" and they hired me and that was that and nobody really seemed to talk about it

i live in toronto which is relatively hugboxy on average but has a surprising amount of anti-hugboxy people who call you "faggot" on the street, sometimes without even the manners of saying such a thing under their breath...

the best advice i can give is to take your estrogen sublingually instead of orally (if it's straight estradiol b-17), and min-max your fat intake day to day so you burn male fat and deposit female fat

>>6185197
hi kit
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>>6185191

familiar but good i guesss. what's the significance? i must know the tale

>>6185194

pls regale me with stories of old my transient transanon frienddd~*~*~
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>>6185196
download the audio version, that way you have him rambling about his creative process.
editing is more important than writing (as long as you have stuff to edit, of course)
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>>6185190
yea i also want to get back into it and learn anatomy
lacking the motivation
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>>6185200
bexebexebexebexebexebexebexebexebexe !!
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I love her!!!
When I see her, we're going to kiss so much!!!!
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>>6185191
>I've never really done animu style
Me neither desu, I think I've ended up with some sort of stylized tumbr meme style which I'm not too happy with
>Do you do digital stuff or traditional?
Digital mostly. I do sketch sometimes in traditional but digital is nice because you got infinite canvas for free, free paints, free brushes, no mess, doesn't require space or drying and you can share stuff easily. Also undo is pretty handy.

>>6185198
I haven't studied fine arts though. I haven't really studied much of anything, just a bit of this and a bit of that sorta aware of everything I should know but not really. Lackluster anatomy, lackluster color theory, lackluster thumbnailing, lackluster values. I'd honestly just need a ton of practice but I'm a depressed unproductive pleb.

Btw does patreon allow me to camwhore or do something similar? I dont really have the necessary face/body for camming but out of curiosity could someone cam and whore with arts at the same time through patreon?

>>6185203
I think I started Bridgman's anatomy like 3 years ago and I'm at like page 27 lel
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>>6185175
please explain how watching entertainment is bad for your health
>>6185199
she might eventually
>>6185185
we all have our starting steps unless we were lucky enough to be born into a rich family. There is nothing wrong with doing a job for money, and if it isn't for you, move on.
>>6185178
are you dating hips?
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>>6185183
my mom is short with blonde hair and my grandma is tall and overweight with brown hair. I will tell them to look for the girl trying to look like a boy.
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>>6185211
no.
i was dating chelsea but i broke up with her.
"are you dating hips"
where the heck did u get that idea?
im not interested in dating anyone atm honestly, but my sexual attraction doesn't go that uhh, dark i guess.
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>>6185207
kit! hello kit :3

how are things?
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>>6185210
>I haven't studied fine arts though.
I brought that up because the spirit of /ic/ is that correct techniques fit to every style, and you don't get more technical than fine arts.
I'm sorry, I used to be a /co/mrade and I have an impulse to defend /ic/ whenever they bash them. It's like our sempai board.

In patreon you put tiers tied to promises, and people pay monthly or for each product you make. For example if you reach $200 you'll do X video, if you reach $400 you'll buy better sound equipment. Usually tied to improving the quality of the thing they like. Some artists make it per ilustration, usually when they do huge overly complex projects, and they set the bar really low. Most youtubers make it monthly and turn it into a sallary, others make it per video so they don't feel as if they steal when they produce less but it's easy to suddenly churn out shit.
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>>6185210
If it helps at all, it doesn't look too bad. You can get a ton of training by visiting drawfag threads in /co/, just avoid red noses.
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i want to stop upsetting people
how can i do this?
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>>6185201
No significance, and I've never used it before. It is just a filler word/expression in Spanish.
>>6185210
I wish I had a more standard style. i just scribble in small moleskines and that is about it. I've not messed around with other media since I dropped out of art school.
Could never get the hang of digital.
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>>6185215
>trying
Don't be a shitlord anon. I am so convincing that sometimes new queer friends wonder how I identify.
Also spooky, because I still don't know who you are but you seem to know something about me.
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>>6185222
Why would you name yourself with something bone related?
Also, es lindo que haya otro hispano hablante. Shakira no fue la mejor adición a nuestro rooster.
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>>6185225
you make me happy isla
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>>6185225
A lot of people exist to be upset. Just worry about the ones who give a damn not to be.
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>>6185231
meant for >>6185228
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>>6185222
>>6185228

oh. well that's not very exciting.
i hope u enjoy being cool and popular now tho.

>>6185225

that depends on what exactly it is that you're doing that's upsetting people
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>tfw I have to maintain my fingernails for farm work.

>>6185187
51...
Being a very feminine acting precocious kid who was bullied and ostracized by the kids at school sent me down some odd paths. Because I spent a bunch of my play time painting and doing photography, I was doing them at a professional level by the time I was 13-14. I grand slammed a photo contest at 15 by taking all three areas I entered, and I took best in show. They limited contestants to three areas every year, and when you won three areas, you couldn't enter again.

The firefly and raven are pics I did while on vacation.

>>6185211
>please explain how watching entertainment is bad for your health
sedentary...
>born into
Getting noticed by an art parton helps.
From 12 up to 16 I had two art patrons who split paying for my staying in NYC. One paid for travel expenses, supplies, food and some spending loot, and the other provided living quarters, studio space, and spending loot. At 16 and after I paid for my own way. I was making enough.
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>tfw getting insane cock lust out of nowhere
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>>6185231
>>6185235
Siempre es bueno encontrar mas gente con quien platicar en mi lengua materna.

I was actually going for o sea not osea, but I contracted it to make it look cleaner.
>>6185236
I know it is kind of boring, but I didn't want to use anything that would link to real life or other online stuff, and I'm horrible at coming up with names..
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>>6185233
yeah but i keep upsetting so many people...
i hurt person after person
i just want to stop being such a piece of shit
>>6185234
i hurt nice people that are nice to me and friends but
agh im such a shit to some of them
i said to anon i wouldn't sadpost but i need to
i have to just
vent
how am i supposed to not fuck everything up?
>>6185236
well i said just now my sexuality didnt go that dark as in i dont like people of darker skin color as far as sexual attraction goes ;;-;
but i upset people normally very frequently
ahhh
>>6185241
D=
ahh thats no good!
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>>6185238
I feel sorry that I'm only now reading your posts, your life sounds pretty interesting.
I know it's a basic question, but how did you end up in 4chan when you already had a pretty active life (for better or worse)?
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>>6185241
Hi, me too, let's talk about cocks
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>tfw no cutie Grace to cuddle rn.
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>>6185244
bajo el riesgo de trumposting, de qué país sos?
Viste el video de la piba de 17 que postié más temprano para Sass?
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>>6185250
>>6185241
you two should post your butts lol
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>>6185238

have you ever had a trip before? you kind of remind me of someone.

>>6185241

f i g h t i t

>>6185244

i get that, ye.

>>6185246

i totally thought you meant dark as in morbid, and i kek'd. that is a lil racist, bby.
you could try...not...being...r...a..c..is...t.. lmao
but otherwise idk. you can't just stop being problematic in the blink of an eye.
you just have to consider what the things you say might do to affect the people around you.
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>>6185211
>she might eventually
its over already and you are defending her because you are a cuck
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>>6185238
saying entertainment hurts people is like saying being a chef hurts people because they could over eat.

also being a young artist sounds really interesting
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>>6185246
You're human, it's pretty much your job as such to fuck up. Some fuck up more than others. If you fuck everything up like you claim then the people who stick around might just see that you're worth more than you ever could.
You can be a pain in the ass all you want, doesnt change who you are or why the people who like you do so.
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>>6185241
I want kaylee's big cock
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>>6185262
she was making a joke, faye, calm your tits.
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>>6185260

hey
just cause i like to distance myself from my negative feelings every once in awhile so i can talk about things in a reasonable manner doesn't mean i'm gonna let you be shitty to my girlfriend. stop being fucking rude.
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>>6185229
I wanna stay anon because I'm shy but I just think you're cool.
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>>6185259
how is hips morbid

she's pretty cheerful most of the time
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>>6185251
>tfw could cuddle grace if i wanted but too shy to
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>>6185221
>I brought that up because the spirit of /ic/ is that correct techniques fit to every style
Oh I know, I mostly left because aside from conanma, acidenema and kjk most of the others were just projecting shit with their critique, not that the aforementioned trio spent much time critiquing. There were quite a few other great artists there but those three I remember the best and seemed to frequent over a long period of time. Didn't feel like I was learning much of anything there that I couldn't learn on my own if I really wanted to, I could see what was wrong with my works but just didn't know how to fix it so I rarely ended up posting there.

About patreon I was more wondering if they allow 3dpd sexual content to be a reward or something. Like if I get 500 bux a month I'll do a camshow for patrons that give more than 50 bux a month or whatever.

>>6185224
Red noses are nice though. It's like the easiest way to add depth to a lazily colored face but I'm well aware of the hateboner everyone has for them

>>6185228
>i just scribble in small moleskines and that is about it
I filled up a cheap sketchbook or two but it was always sorta depressing to burn through pages and not really get much out of it. Maybe if I had invested in some better tools and did it like this guy
http://mitografia tumblr com/
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>>6185270
Ok fine. But I'm available most of next week so tell your mom to hmu if she wants to hit a brewpub.
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>>6185259
well like
i mean i cant control my sexuality
that isn't racist ?
i mean i wont have sex with someone of a certain color because im not attracted towards some...
ugh
yeah like someone asked if i was dating hips and
the skin shade doesn't attract me...
ugh
>>6185265
i gues
ugh
idk if people could do it though
c r y e
sorry
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>>6185260
uhm, I just cant take the concept of being a "cuck" seriously, especially since its a meme born out or r/redpill
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>>6185219
i'm good !! just waiting for work :3

how are youuuuuuuuuuu??
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>>6185250
ugh idk whats come over me, usually I fantasize about getting fucked up the ass but right now I just want to suck a nice big cock for some reason. cis male, femboy, gt, idgaf I just want cock!
>>6185259
i c a n t i t s t o o p o w e r f u l
>>6185266
omg i wish i was you
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>>6185271
>opens my gf's mail without her consent
>posts it online
>spreads allegations that I have hiv
>doxs me
>cheerful
Okay dokie.
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>>6185278
Here you go Faye. Can I cuddle with you platonically until Edie comes around?
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>>6185254
Mexico, pero no he vivido ahi desde hace ya 15 años.
>>6185259
I might change it down the road, but I think I kind of like it. It is nice and short.
4 letter trip masterrace
>>6185274
I get a lot of satisfaction from flipping through full pages. It gives me a really tangible sense of accomplishment.
>http://mitografia tumblr com/
Those are way fancier than anything I ever do. I mostly use microns and similar pens. Mine really are just scribbles.
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>>6185271

i mean i guess the whole rape/sexual assault/I'M SUING EVERYONE/weird other shit that's happened involving her in the threads.
i thought she meant that kind of dark.

>>6185277

racial preference can be racist lol
implying that someone can't be attractive to you in general because they're darker skinned is ...not just a preference.

>>6185280

no it's not!! but, well, idk. why not go get a cock if you're lusting for it?
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>>6185274
I think patreon has rules against camwhoring, but you can always set as a goal something like
>special livestream for top donnors
and show your tits there if you want. It's not gonna make you grow in the community, probably just gonna get hate from artists that can't show their bodies for money but have more talent and trannies that feel that you are giving a bad image in the line of "we are useless if we're not sex objects"

I know red noses are a cheat code to improve your dimensions, but /co/ inmediately ties them to tumblr and they rage like the T fueled teens they are.

>moleskins
aren't they ridiculously expensive just for practice?
>better tools
the tools don't make the artist, but expanding your range of tools will improve them all in the process.
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>>6185283
You forgot the part where hips raped pookie and posted pre 18yo pics of her online. hips is a psychopath.
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>>6185277
Hips has really serious self esteem issues. You could probably have handled it better somehow.
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>>6185277
Ohhh people do it, and theres also times when if it gets a bit much they pull away a bit, doesnt mean they arent there. I know thats how I do things.
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>>6185277
your tastes aren't your sexuality, they reflect other aspects of your life. if you interacted with a wider variety of people you wouldn't have those views.
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>>6185286
aaahh but I'm too insecure to find someone to have sex with. I guess there's grindr but i dont want some old ass hairy gay guy
maybe i can ruin my 7 years of friendship with one of my best friends while drinking this weekend. He's gay and kinda cute, and he's leaving for Uganda in like 5 days for the summer so i wont have to live with the consequences aaaahh what am I saying
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>>6185279
waiting until it's too late to not sleep, then sleeping, then going to work at my shit job where i'm better than literally everyone else but nobody cares, then not seeing my gf the day after tomorrow because i got scheduled the day after tomorrow halfway through the week

and also great because i have the best gf ever and i see her in .............. 76 hours........ kill me

you're probably making more money than i am so it balances out ~

ganbatte at work kittu
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>>6185280
Worst feel. When it gets bad enough it quite literally feels like an ache ;_;
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>>6185278
that's good, you shouldn't.

>>6185283
>>6185288
I'm not 100% believing the anon because anons, you know, but that's some pretty psycho behaviour.

>>6185285
living in the states now? afraid of the trump banhammer for non whites?
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>>6185300
>Not believing something that is well documented
guess that shows how new you are.
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>>6185285

you could always be pussea

>>6185295

>gay
are you not a grill? idu
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>>6185284
can you just lay your head on my chest while I let my mind wander, it's probably my favorite way to desress
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>bullying hips
She's a nice, sensitive girl. Idk what your problems are with her, because she's never been anything but nice to me.
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>>6185296
this is my new motto
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>>6185286
Blanket statement of, "i just dont date blacks" may be racist, but in that case its just as discriminatory as "i only date older/younger/skinny/fat/rich/religious/men/women" saying there could never be an exception is discrimination, but people have their likes and dislikes.
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hey everyone!
i have great news!
i earned all a's this semester!
no longer am i on academic probation.
i have redeemed myself
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>>6185302
I'm pretty new to this general, I'm not new enough to believe anons (or trips) too much.
It's also that all that sounds so awful that I really don't want to imagine it happening.
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>>6185300
Not really. I'm a citizen and my parents are permanent residents so I think it will be fine. Still would rather him not win, but I don't really care for HIllary either. Tough spot considering it will be the first time I get to vote for president.
>>6185303
I have to get srs first
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>>6185309
Congratz! !ztargnoC that shit is difficult to pull out of.
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>>6185306

lmao

>>6185308

"i would never date the blacks because they're too dark and that's not attractive" is racist lmao

>>6185309

!! congrats bb!!!! we're all proud of u

>>6185310

trust me, it gets worse

>>6185313

nopussea
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>>6185305
destress
>>6185306
>.>
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>>6185303
I am but I'm still closet to everyone but 2 people, its not that he's gay I just have a weird attraction to him even though we've been friends for so long
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maddie could dox me so hard rn.
It feels good.
Vulnerable, but a good vulnerable.
I think this is trust.
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>>6185313
You can just not vote, that's way easier.
I have pending fines for not voting last year.

>>6185309
I guess you weren't lying when you said you had the brains.
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>>6185286
I am not sexually aroused by people who have darker colored skin.
I literally cannot change it.
if i could i would
hips is a nice person and id love to be super gr8 friends with her
or just super close
>>6185290
I mean i didn't say it directly to her, i just said it in a post mentioning hips
i think shes great and i like her but like, i cant do that.
>>6185288
if anything it was consensual, but statutory rape at most since they wanted to be together at the time.
She has emotions adn feels values for other people.
I'm willing to defend the heck out of her now that I know her, she isn't a psychopath.
>>6185294
My sexual preference isn't my sexuality?
like, its not as much as only that its also i have had bad sexual experiences of people with darker skin so it makes me not want ot do it again due to some form of weirdness ;_;
ahhhhghhhghg
>>6185292
i fucked everything up
im making worse and worse mistakes
and im just digging my own grave
i hate myself
>>6185306
this.
exactly this to me too..
she said something rude to me at one point but it wasnt that bad, she has been always nice otherwise.
>>6185308
How can that be racist, like I guess I am racist if I don't want to have sex with a black male / female,
gah
i hate my life.
>>6185310
underage with of age person
they wanted to be with each other
they did stuff together
at one point a distasteful image could have potentially been posted.
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>>6185307
w-what did i do to deserve this? is this a trap?
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>>6185306
okay, that's good for you, but she's done mean things to me.
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>>6185310
The story's more complicated than most anons will have you believe.

If you ctrl+f 'findom' in the archives and ctrl+f 'you actually', pookie herself claims that she's sorry and cuts herself every night for falsely accusing hips.

But then again, some rape victims blame themselves for what happened. It's impossible to really know.
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>>6185320
Isla....
Hips hurt me.
I can show you all the stuff that was posted.
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>>6185305
Yes thats fine. I can imagine myself falling asleep so easily just resting my head on you. Dreaming about platonic things of course.
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>>6185314
>>6185315
thanks! but it was relatively easy for me b/c i was attending half-time, but i was still worried, particularly about the grade replacement for chinese.
i love my counselor right now
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>>6185315
Im a perfect fence percher and agreed with you while showing a way it could not be.
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>>6185269
how many men are you going to fuck while you 'get over your negative feelings' leaving faye in the lurches
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>>6185320
theres nothing worse than a rape apologist. you're a piece of shit.
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>>6185019
1. 27

2. 1 year, 7months

3. 8 months

4. n/a
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>>6185315
>"i would never date the blacks because they're too dark and that's not attractive" is racist lmao

I don't understand how that is racist.
Like if you don't find something attractive, then you don't find it attractive.
i guess i am racist
T_T
>>6185324
im sorry i just
i have nobody to spend time with
i ahve nobody to like
i need someone
i have to
shes such a nice friend
>>6185332
she hasn't hurt me, and she said she feel sbad about any way she may have hurt pookie.
She was in love with pookie, pookie wasn't in love with her. Pookie thought of it as only a sexual thing unfortunately.
But you are right about the me being a piece of shit.
I also deserve to die.
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>>6185321
just true plathonic love between girls. no chasing involved.
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Really can't sleep eveb with the drugs in me.
I can't take the muscle relaxer until the morning.
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>>6185334
oh no hips felt bad about raping someone so I guess all is forgiven. you're an idiot to boot.
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>>6185335
but i have a gf...
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>>6185317

how long have you been on hrt and stuff?

>>6185318

<3 I'M ROOTING FOR YALL

>>6185320
>>6185334

isla bb no one is born not being attracted to dark skin tones.
it's ok if you're a lil racist and you have a racial preference. i think most people are that way. it's not necessarily a bad thing to admit that.

>>6185327

o. well ok. fine. be a smarty smart then. no pride for u!

>>6185329

lmao oh. well....YEAH. i mean i want to believe the best in people, but.........some things just are what they are.

>>6185331

taking literally a night to calm my feels isn't some big break where i go on fuckapalooza. i haven't even had sex in 3 months.
despite the many, many opportunities. don't be so overdramatic.
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>>6185287
>but you can always set as a goal something like "special livestream for top donnors" and show your tits there if you want
Sounds like something that could get you easily banned sadly. Gotta somehow make it long enough to grow tits without killing myself too, life is hard.
>It's not gonna make you grow in the community
I feel like it'd be a great business strat if it was allowed and you had the assets to do it with.
>probably just gonna get hate from artists that can't show their bodies for money but have more talent
That's exactly the point. Kr0n made the art community hate his guts because all he did was rip off anime screenshots, photos and such without crediting originals but nobody but the original IP holders can do anything about it and they don't really care. In the end he just laughed all the way to the bank while 'muh fundamentals' artists were foaming in anger.
>the tools don't make the artist
Oh I know but there's only so much fun I can have with pencils and my sketchbooks cant handle watercolors. I just don't find it too satisfying to spend hours on end crosshatching a sketchbook page with pencils, much rather do something digital instead that's why I dropped the habit. My hands are pretty unstable as well so undo & stabilizer are my best friends

All and all I'm not sure if professional art career really is the thing for me. I'm not sure at all what I could do with my life that'd get me anywhere from where I am now. I'd much rather go into a school and maybe figure out what I'm doing with my life but I'm not sure if I have the mental fortitude left to spend another 4-6 years alone here. I haven't done anything after high school and I'm turning 22 next month... fml indeed.
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>>6185315
That would be kind of depressing.
>>6185319
I'll vote just because there are other things to vote for that I care about more, but I will probably just throw my vote at some third party candidate for president.


Well. Looks like it is time for me to go to sleep.

Night /mtfg/

It was nice trying to be a popular trip. I'll probably give it a shot again later.
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>>6185225
When you notice somebody is upset, remember what you recently did. From that you should hopefully be able to figure it out, but sometimes it can be convoluted and hidden.

>>6185248
Was active,
>>6185174
>Stuffed into conversion therapy at 20.
>I feel like my life ended then, and I'm only finally getting it restarted.
They used electroshock therapy on me, and it fried my brain. Lots of little holes in all the knowledge and skills I learned before. Literally shattered my life.

>>6185259
;) Sometimes still do trip, but some like to attack me. ME/CFS and FM are keeping me relatively quiet lately.

>>6185262
All depends on the entertainment... I like dancing which is usually quite healthy to do.
>young artist
It was. I'd do it again... I'm finally remembering more. One of the best intact memories was the time an art friend kissed me when I crossdressed out in public the first time. It was funny the next time he was over to cat about art at my patron's place where I was living. It was a bit awkward because that was one passionate kiss, but I was 14 and his main career was in it's second decade. Never did get in bed with him, but I now knew who he was other than just an artist friend who also loved modern art history.

>tfw bed time...
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man. this thermos is amazing.
i prepared some tea in it 2 hours ago & it's still piping hot.
i'm gonna be drinking tea everywhere
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>>6185333
how is it going for you?
Do you see yourself being passable in the future? (remember that HRT can take up to 6+ years with pretty big stuff like fat redistribution)
Did you see yourself failing malemode? How did you deal with that?
How are you dealing with being fulltime and not feeling like you pass/not passing?
I'm in more or less your position a year ago.
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>>6185337
Daily reminder that pookie raped hips.
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>>6185338
i believe she included the word "platonic"
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>>6185348
trip on hips
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>>6185331
you have an overactive imagination
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RAPE
RAAAAAAAPE
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>>6185019
1. 29
2. 3 years and 5 months
3. 1 year
4. Hard to say. I say when I was 1.5 years in but I do get misgendered which is rare
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>>6185338
I said no chasing involved, I don't particularly like girls anyway. You're just my favorite trip at the moment to the point of purely platonic love.
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>>6185350
it's still cheating

tetra is the only one for me
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>>6185339
For me personally its the caliber of the person that matters, the rest is negotiable. I have preferences leaning to a certain type (really strange and specific ones imo) but if someone finds me outside that preference im open to the possibility.
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>>6185339
:(
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>>6185334
>Hips is a nice friend
I've literally only ever seen Hips attack multiple people here and then the occasional screenshot of her fetish ERP she does on discord.

I must admit that sociopath has game because she keeps luring people into the trap.
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ugh im sad as fuck now
and weteyes
gnight
>>6185337
moozy is this you?
also, yeah it may be statutory rape.
At least it wasn't ill intentioned sexual assault.
>>6185339
I think sexual arousal goes along the lines of just w hat youre given.
Kinda like sexuality.
Exactly like sexuality.
My sexuality doesn't align with the genitalia of people who have darker skin.
They aren't arousing to me.
>>6185354
EEEVILLL
>>6185344
i do notice it and i know what i did, but its different things that i cant know.
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I'm not too sure that hips raped pookie, I'm not going to claim that's true, but I hope y'all can see how hips genuinely frustrated me with her behavior, but I guess it's "rude" to share my expierence. I hoped to like hips, but that behavior kept making her more and more unlikable.
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>>6185339
I can't sleep Edie.
I hurt my back yesterday :/
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>>6185361
sweet dreams ily
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>>6185361
i'm done interacting with a rape apologist. you need to get your head checked because whoever moozy is hips already has you convinced to be paranoid of her. get help or a gun to your head.
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>>6185356
th-thanks anon

but i'll never be able to acquiesce your platonic love because reasons...
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>>6185361
good night. hope you feel better
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>>6185347
Ummm, my transisition isn't going great.
I don't really see myself being passable, no. Umm, i do get gendered right sometimes, but its usually from hair. My work and everyone call me by my girlname, but it took a long time for people to remember it, and some people kinda dont, like my boss. I don't see myself failing malemode if i want to, but i kinda told everyone already.......
Umm I'm really anxious, i feel like really undermined. When you donn't pass, people think youre trying to be tricky or something, like youre gonna steal their genitals out from under them or something. I just look down most of the time.
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>>6185362
didnt she hump you while you were sleeping
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>>6185354
>yelling rape
oh, the irony here
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>>6185374
she did without my expressed consent, but I guess I led her on.
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>>6185340
>Kr0n
you are transitioning, you started something that will take years to finish and decided to change your life. if you're gonna look to the future when it comes to your body do it too with your careeer. it's better to be a low level artists with a good standing among your peers than someone that has a fanbase that will grow to hate him as they learn of better artists.

If you're in the states college is a tough decision, you have to have clear goals if you're gonna get in that debt. In my country college is free so a lot of people try it for a while and switch around, while it's better in terms of not having debt and being able to test the waters it results in a shit ton of students in the first years clogging the place just to disappear mid year when they see that you have to work hard even in free college.

Still, if you love art and you're willing to sit down and train every day it can be a pretty good job.
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>>6185342

goodnight, nOpussea

>>6185344

didn't your trip have an S in it? i forget. i def remember you though.

>>6185358

that's kind of how i am, but i heavily lean towards men. personality is the most important tho. you can't really substitute that.

>>6185359

;3; i'm sorry i didn't want to make u frown

>>6185361

....girlll lmao

>>6185362

it's not rude to talk about what she's done to you when she literally doxed you and tried to tell everyone you have HIV.

>>6185366

angie?
how'd you hurt your back?
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>>6185377
you want some rape anon?
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>>6185374
point is, that it was an awkward and uncomfortable expierence.
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>>6185380
edie stop trying to dox syndie while she's anon
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>>6185378
Jesus Christ at least have some principals to stand on.
>>
>>6185344
hope to see you some time in the future irl oldfag, I demand more anecdotes.
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>>6185386

WELL NOW YOU HAD TO GO AND SAY HER TRIP
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>>6185390
SHIT OOPS
>>
Tips to any chasers reading this right now:

You can rape a majority of people here and they won't do anything about it. Have fun!
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>>6185388
I have weird fucked up views on sex ever since I hooked up with random men as a gay boy and when I escorted
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>>6185360
sociopaths have game generally
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>>6185390
>>6185391
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>>6185393
You don't say.
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>>6185392
>>6185396

...
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>>6185380
Well I was getting ready for work and I did a hard sneeze and pulled a muscle.

Had to go to the doctors yesterday and I freaked out because I underestimated the tempature in the x-Ray room and almost vomited. I had to get fluids asap before doing the X-rays but there seems to be no broken bones.

So the doctor gave me some shots, pills and to take off work for three days
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>>6185392
i dont want sex i want love
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>>6185366
didn't the doc give you a ton of groovy drugs?

>>6185371
that's cool, I'll try not to creep you again or I'll look like hips or something.
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>>6185392
>implying rapey chasers are only cis males
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>>6185392
nope. if you rape me, i will DEFINITELY FUCK YOU OVER FOR THAT
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>>6185360
hip's family has some amount of money.

she tells girls this
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>>6185373
have you considered changing jobs and going back to male life or you feel that you're happier accepting who you are?
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>>6185392
Reading all of this and this does appear to be the case. Red went from trying to explain what happened to taking all the blame within minutes.
I feel like I'm one of the few who didn't lose IQ points when starting HRT but then again I am lurking mtfg at 3 am.
>>
>>6185381
sorry, I'm not jocelyn/charlotte
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>>6185401
Yeah but I can't take the muscle relaxers or anti-inflammatory stuff until the morning. Only thing I was allowed to take was the 800mg of ibuprofen
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>>6185407
who the heck is charlotte?
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>>6185392
p lewd desu
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>>6185370
you are such a violent person.
Why are you so mean?
I'm not a rape apologist.
There is no solid evidence and therefore its only hearsay.
Oh, and I have also been raped once, sexually assaulted more than 5 times throughout my life.
So yeah, I have some fucking problems.
and you know what
i could kill myself right fucking now
i have a box of medical scalpels i can cut my throat open with.
maybe i will you sad pathetic cunt.
get all the info and knowledge you can before being judgemental trash. Like i have gotten as much as i could have from both pookie and hips.
all you do is listen to hearsay you dumb faggot.
goddamn if i disappear who knows, sorry.
>>6185382
>>6185374
she was asleep when the humping happened and wasn't aware that it even happened.
like both parties were supposedly asleep.
>>6185380
like
im not attracted to hairy men.
Im not attracted to black men.
Im not attracted to fully obese women.
Im not attracted to black women.
Im not attracted to asian men
Im attracted to asian woman.
Im not attracted to tan men.
I am attracted to tan women.
I am attracted to fem white men.
I am not attracted to white men.
I am not attracted to anyone taller than 6'4"
these are ALL the SEXUALITY TENDENCIES I WAS BORN WITH SCREE
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>>6185399
>Well I was getting ready for work and I did a hard sneeze and pulled a muscle.

this is literally my life in one sentence and i'm so sorry lmao
jesus christ. so you have the weekend off basically?

>>6185406

>I feel like I'm one of the few who didn't lose IQ points when starting HRT but then again I am lurking mtfg at 3 am.

i wonder if estrogen does make you stupid

>>6185410

like the spider with the web in that movie with the talking animals
>>
what things can i do (besides hormones) to soften up my muscley, boney manbod? im almost positive the definition my muscles have will get me clocked even in thigh high socks
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>>6185366
i pray you feel better
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>>6185378
yah no, I've been trained in this, saying 'she led me on" is what rapests do

listen I'll come out and say it, she didn't have my express consent either and I did not appreciate the leeway she took with me. The person whose body is getting touch determines if consent is given, not the person who is touching them.
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>>6185402
that's even scarier
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>>6185404
Well that explains everything. No really it does.
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>>6185414
oh gosh i remember that movie
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>>6185412
dis nigga........


pls relaxu isla
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>>6185406
hormones are what make teenagers so idiotic, "maturing" is just stabilizing your hormones.
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>>6185406
Hips DIDN'T rape me.
The bed humping was blurred consent, but I did lead on earlier. I played footsy with her and I think I may have kissed her.
I felt uncomfortable when hips did it...but I didn't say anything
Fuck off for saying it was rape. I'm a rape victim already.
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>>6185419
yea... it does actually
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>>6185414
>like the spider with the web in that movie with the talking animals
you're great edie

>>6185415
be a muscular woman
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>>6185412
just be careful, ok?
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>>6185404
can confirm
However, she fled Singapore in order to not go into compulsory military service.
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>>6185414
Until Sunday.
I took today off, have Friday off as a normal day and off Saturday (work day).
Hopefully my back will be back in shape.

But I'm suppose to go to a party for a trans friend tomorrow who is leaving for Hawaii in 3 days
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>>6185423
see, this is what feminism does to people
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>>6185423
You didn't say any thing? Every time Hips has come up for the last two months you go off on a tangent about what she did but now apparently she didn't. So no you fuck off and don't project your own self induced life problems onto me.
Not anyone's fault here that you're a whore.
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>>6185421
no everything is fucking breaking
i want to die
i want to die
i want to die
I WANT TO FUCKING DIE
IT ALL HURTS
my stomach hurts
god this has been
building up
I JUST LOVE CHELSEA AND WANT HER TO CALM ME DOWN AND LOVE ME AGAIN
FUCK MAN
>>6185426
fuck no
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>>6185410
the one that got away
and spilled the beans, ole rapey one
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>>6185425
b-but i dont wanna be a muscular woman ;-;
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>>6185416
Thanks
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>>6185404
>>6185427
it's reallllly eerie how closely my experience with hips, and everyone else's experience with hips aligns.
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>>6185433
-rubs tummy-
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>>6185420
>>6185425

here is a photo of me and charlotte together actually, we go way back

>>6185429

aw, well that sucks :/ are you going to be able to go?
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>>6185423
while I agree that rape is rape and should be divided from less horrible stuff, it's still sexual abuse and it's not okay to justify it just because it could had been worse.
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>>6185379
>it's better to be a low level artists with a good standing among your peers than someone that has a fanbase that will grow to hate him as they learn of better artists.
It really isn't though. Even as the outrage bursted out it didn't affect his income much at all, he's still making 15k a month granted that he's gotten a lot better at what he's doing and can actually do his own works even if they're samefaced as fuck. At this point whatever integrity I had I'd gladly trade for a comfortable income that'd let me transition and then some.
>If you're in the states college is a tough decision
I'm not but quite frankly I wish I could somehow get there for school just so I don't miss out on life quite as much. The education is free here but it's hard to get into and means I'm going to spend that 4-6 years alone which I don't know if I'll able to do.
>Still, if you love art and you're willing to sit down and train every day it can be a pretty good job.
Of course but it also takes a lot of motivation which is really hard to dig up when you're perpetually struggling with even the most basic tasks thanks to anxiety, gd, depression and lack of sleep.
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>>6185436
a lot of atlethic women don't either
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>>6185441
lmao edie you're not a pig
..well you do eat a lotta pizza and brownies from dominoes..
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>>6185440
i feel sick.
im going to puke
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>>6185441
I really hope so even if it's for an hour
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>>6185404

t b h i hate hips and think she's a deplorable hideous waste of space, and have for awhile.
i'm glad this is a topic of conversation now so that i can admit that.

>>6185445

THE PIECES ARE FINALLY COMING TOGETHER NOW HUH
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>>6185418
>literally in the company of wolves
due to the smaller chance of getting w a chaser, you're probably less likely to get raped by a cis dude
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>>6185334
>>>6185315
>>"i would never date the blacks because they're too dark and that's not attractive" is racist lmao
I guess they fall out of love when their partner gets really tanned.

>>6185339
>isla bb no one is born not being attracted to dark skin tones.
Having gone out with a couple, I have to agree with this.

>>6185361
Keep looking. It's what I did. Sadly it can be hard if one is to stressed or triggered at the time. The thinking brain, and reptile brain stop communicating properly. That means the reptile brain's automatic processing results get ignored.

>>6185380
yes. I have many more memories back, but many obvious bits are missing or distorted.

>>6185389
I'm like 40% done with the book. There are some really juicy stories in it. The one whom I kissed told me I was required to use his real name.

>>6185392
I'd bite and shake my head for all I'm worth.

>>6185414
>i wonder if estrogen does make you stupid
No studies prove it. IQ has stayed the same, but brain size has shrunk in some. IQ stayed the same.

Ok, time to run off to bed for me. I need my beauty rest. plus ME/CFS sucks!!!!
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MTFG: Proving that trans people have a mental illness since 2010ish
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>>6185446
go puke then you will feel better after
>>
i'm not going to talk about hips anymore
I honestly let her into my dorm to stay because I thought I would like hips at first. But stuff turned bad.
>>6185431
I have very confused feelings about what happened with hips
I'm a confused person.
But can y'all please try to trust me?


I want to hold kaylee so much rn
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>>6185452

mtfg has only been around since 2013 lol
now the trannies from /soc/ and 420chan that have mental illnesses like myself...
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>>6185444
im not even athletic, i just have a stupid low body fat percentage and my metabolism is congruently fast. gaining weight is seeming impossible and its upsetting me
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>>6185392
if someone tried to rape me, i'd go apeshit and try to gouge their eyes out or something

then again, i'm hips :^)
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>>6185443
I've been posting some images of Simon Hanselmann mentioning how even a complete hon can be acepted if she's good at her stuff. She slowly grew a following, got deals and she has fanart from really great artists that also apreciate her work. Being well recieved by your peers is the way to create a career, doing dumb stuff for the money is a way to turn into a pariah that needs a very specific group that will eventually leave you.

If college is free I'd recommend going for something along fine arts or social scieces. It's a great way to open up your mind if you get the right professors and the human interaction will force you to learn how to deal with people and how to be more feminin.

And yeah, I'm a writefag that hasn't written more than a full page in almost a year. Motivation is a bitch, but it's something you're meant to train instead of waiting for it to come. You know, saying advices that you don't apply yourself.
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wew the cocklust is finally over, and all it took was cancerous meme music and pure strength of character.


oh and like an hour of masturbating to the idea of giving head ;_;
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>>6185451
>I'm like 40% done with the book. There are some really juicy stories in it. The one whom I kissed told me I was required to use his real name.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
I want it now. I'm sorry but I saved your tripname so I can remember to ask you more stuff if I ever see you again.
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>>6185453
i did
it burned
was red and ahhhh
god fucking dammit
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>>6185454
yah talk about better stuff love
>>
IS TWENTY TOO LATE TO TRANSITION?

MY JAWLINE ISN'T THAT STRONG AND MY SHOULDERS AREN'T THAT BROAD BUT I AM 5'10''

AM I DOOMED
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>>6185454
Oh I know kaylee
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>>6185450
since i'm gonna have more time,
i think i'm gonna get some athletic clothes & go for the couch to 5k thing.
i think i'll need it to feel much better about myself. not that i'm feeling bad or anything
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>>6185447

i will pray for u in the name of marge

>>6185451

ohh, alright. well it's nice to see you in the thread again! i know you don't post as often here anymore. i hope you sleep well!

>>6185460

WTF PLATYPUS THAT WAS YOU?

>>6185464

no
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>>6185463
faye I miss talking to you tbdesu
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seriously though I wish I had about 4lbs of hotwings and a shotgun with a deer slug
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>>6185455
>/soc/ and 420chan
If I can say a single good thing about /lgbt/ is that there is a clear focus in accepting your feelings, transitioning and moving on with your life. It could be better, but when you compare it with those places it seems so much mature.
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>>6185462
do you feel a little better now
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>>6185470
lol wat?
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>>6185465
i love her!!!
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>>6185357
I don't mind
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>>6185464
Not really. Some people do it even later and it works. If you start training your voice and planning how to come out from now it could work.

Also, females can be 6' and taller. It's not the most common thing but if the rest of you passes it actually makes you more attractive.
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>>6185479
>she totally minds
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>>6185478
i dont have anything against furries personally but i do think that they go to hell
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>>6185465
me too lol
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>>6185458
>I've been posting some images of Simon Hanselmann mentioning how even a complete hon can be acepted if she's good at her stuff.
I don't really give a rats ass if I'm accepted or not. It's either pass or hon and I'm not going to live my life as the latter.
>create a career
I really don't care for that that much. I'm not going for the big bucks or anything, I just want to get by, try transitioning and be able to live somewhere near my friends.
>fine arts
Don't exist here, it's either modern art fart-sniffing or studying abroad.
>social sciences
I don't think any non-art subject is really the way to go for me but who knows. My parents are somewhat well-off maybe they'd chip in for studying abroad but idk, they despise me for being trans neet that can't stand on his own in life
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>>6185483
But do they jiff in there or they live normal post-lives?
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>>6185483
at least I can be in hell with kaylee
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>>6185467
yeah.... not my proudest moment. For some reason though I'd rather face the truth than hide behind anonymity.
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>>6185479
I promise not to creep her out nor motivate any break up. Just encourage and lend a virtual ear just like I'd do with any lovable poster.
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>>6184956
Senpai, how do you all fight against going back to repressing? All the time i get thoughts of fear/doubt. Im scared ill loose the ability to work in the field i want to, to study in a good university, im scared that im wrong and not actualltrans. Right now reminding myself of how i feel once i loose those thought/of some characters i identify with helps but i dont want to go back to repression.

Help senpai
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>>6185476
I want to eat wings and then blow my brains out
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>>6185467
Bless mother Marge and papa Franku
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I truly question the terrible choices I've made in life when some people here with serious issues, which is putting it kindly, somehow manage to have somewhat functioning normal lives or relationships while I sit here being a depressed loser neet.

I must ponder some things.
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The dominos people sold my pizza to someone else and now I have to wait for another one

Who else suicidal here?
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>>6185455
I wonder how different my life would be if I never saw moot added a new board for lgbt and decided to see what it was all about...
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have 4 assignments due in 3 hours and all I want to so is spam mtfg with flannel
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>>6185478
She used to live with bacon, Dana and Neeners iirc
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>>6185500
I know that.
I....have a funny/sad story about that.
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>>6185499
She looks like she could eat rocks for breakfast.
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>>6185470
any time
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>>6185499
please study. i know what's best for you.
& i don't to see my advice squandered
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>>6185417
are you holding on to your sentiments as the social framework you had for false accusations against me is crumbling dude
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>>6185501
Really?
Post that to rf+ :3
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>>6185502
I try to focus on the flannel
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>>6185472

honestly /soc/ wasn't so bad back in the day. though the only person who posted both there, and here at one point was kuroneko.
also sage, and lydia, and amelia. none of whom really post now.
420 had the clearest focus on transition out of any of these places, but...all of those communities have sort of degraded now.
it's a little sad...

>>6185489

platypus...FOR SHAME
i thought you were a pseudo chaser, and now you're lusting after musky man cock?? WHAT HAS BECOME OF YOU??

>>6185492

why do you think you're not actually trans? that's silly. cis people don't tend to question their gender.

>>6185495

#mothermarge

>>6185498

i've no idea. would you say your life is better now than prior?
i've just been around on the trans chan forums forever, so...it was just a natural progression.

>>6185499

you have an addiction
>>
>>6185504
tfw alone
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>>6185486
I happen to be a bit pro modern art. Bah, I'm extremely in favor of modern art and vaguely tolerate some post-modern art. I used to make threads in /lit/ refering to Heidegger's interpreation of what is art but I really think this isn't the place for that.
You could look around and see their production. I'm a filmfag so I can't really tell you what to look for, I don't like the stuff the people in painting and sculpture tend to do but I do know that their training includes most classic techniques and if you want you can entirely focus on anatomy and ilustration.

I'll insist, as pointless as it is in 4chan, that connecting with your peers is the best way to go for a producer of any kind of content.

Isn't that pic from an extremely shitty MMO themed manga? And while you're here you should feel safe to refer to yourself as female if you want.
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>>6185506
>this is what a rich sociopath who doesnt care about any life but their own actually believes.
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>>6185509
She is unstoppable
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>>6185491
That's very sweet of you, anon
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>>6185514
im not rich,

also not true
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>>6185506
Are you a freshman in college? Because this post screams just that.
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hey I googled flannel band shirt and found out there are other people who dress as terribly as I do
this doesn't seem too lesbiany does it?
>>
>>6185475
no
not to mention i woke my mom up
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>>6185519
that's sonic

she's 28 years old
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>>6185517
man, how can i not love what's happening here?
it's so sweet
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>>6185492
Edie already said what I could say about gender, I'd like you to tell us more about your worries in terms of your field. When I came out to my mom, which went horribly and is never going to be discussed again, her only connection with a mtf was another scientist who was, for what I could imagine, a raging hon. Someone in the previous thread linked an article about another scientist who at age 50 had her disphoria so bad she had the hospitalization kind of anxiety attacks.
It really depends on your general situation and context, but repression usually ends up in late transition or suicide.
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>>6185506

...lmao

>>6185515

marge the forbidden one

>>6185521

that's actually a cute look. very old school crystal castles/alice glass.
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>>6185496
seconding

>>6185497
go to bed claire, it's bad for your face to stay up even if you just discovered the magic of make up
>>
>>6185509
I don't even know who I am anymore

>>6185497
>tfw live way the fuck out of the way from anything and only 1 pizza places delivers to you
>no late night delivery
tbf its local and better than Dominos, but god damn I do love me a bread bowl at 1 am
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>>6185530
It's 6:08 PM anon...
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>>6185522
well i hope your tummy feels better soon

you should get some ginger ale
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>>6185528
I'm just legit astonished that I still somehow get gendered female wearing stuff like this
this stuff is basically boymode
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>>6185534
ahh i should..
been so long since ive had it
all i have is a very very old ginger root coated in cinnamon
and water
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>>6185513
>Isn't that pic from an extremely shitty MMO themed manga?
It's from something I found from exhentai, wasn't even porn just feels lol. I'm basically in that situation except there's nobody to even kick me but myself.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not against modern art in its entirety it's just not for me if I want to get paid. The school I coulda applied to seemed bottom of the barrel quality technique-education-wise as one of the grads had done anything but interpretive art and if you're going to do something artsy that doesn't automatically mean you can only draw 2d stick figures and fart paint on canvas yet nobody seemed to want to deviate from that style. The only good thing about that place woulda been the bachelors in fine arts but sigh, I'd need to wait for another year to re-apply again and do some traditional work as the portfolio. Clock keeps ticking and by the looks of it I'm not moving anywhere from here. Feeling pretty much done with everything.
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>>6185506
>lucia, my roommate who wasn't there, has an opinion therefore I didn't do it

So gem, yume, and edie all kissed me or touched me in various ways, and had express consent, you haven't heard me mention anything negative about them or false acusations.

Adri kind of surprised me, but stopped instantly, and I was spending the night with her, so it wasn't out of the ordinary and she was super respectful, again I have never said anything bad about it.

There are however multiple people that have said you've sexually attacked them, I was nice about it, but gloves off now, I'm not some little kid that's confused like your other victims, I went to go meet lucia, and you touched me in a way I was not comfortable with without my consent, which yes included grabbing my breasts, in this country that is labeled "sexual assault".
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>>6185534
i heard that star anise is better for that
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>>6185538
If you can handle the taste then ginger tea works better I've found
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>>6185528
>tfw I have an actual homunculus ouroboros tattoo

>play Marge the forbidden one
#instantduelwin
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>>6185521
>jaw
>fivehead
>only cheekbones out of malnutrition
>hiding the lack of hips
>huge hands
>tiny mouth
>bad make up
3/10
doesn't pass
>>
how do you guys feel about killing yourself based on the statistical probability of being born again as a girl
>>
>>6185542
ahh tea >_<
tea my tastebuds stopped liking T_T
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>>6185546
This bait
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>>6185532
>>6185537

if i didn't know any better i'd say flannel and platypus are one in the same...

>>6185543

i kind of want to get one too, but idk. do people ever think it's too nerdy?
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next thread
>>6176805
>>6176805
>>6176805
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>>6185509
>i've no idea. would you say your life is better now than prior?

I dunno really my life is probably worse now compared to before. Before going on lgbt I was in highschool thinking I might be some kind of fag or I somehow tricked myself into thinking I was a queer but at least I had some friends and stuff to do. Now I'm a college drop out with no friends and waiting for government shit so I can start hrt. So I dunno I guess my life has potential to get better but right now it isn't great.
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>>6185555
ok, this is getting old
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>>6185558
>>6185558
>>6185558
look at this thing what I gone and done again
>>
>>6185555
do not go here

>>6185561
go here
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>>6185551
I hope you know better lol
what makes you say that?
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>>6185539
when it comes to arts the title doesn't mean crap, although it helps if you apply for grants which I don't see you caring about.
have you looked for places to train outside of college? i follow a few comic book artists on facebook and they give classes to limited groups with tolerable prices. learning from a pro will help you develop functional talent and, if you're good enough, can open some doors for you.

still, try to take a full hour of your day to just sit and practice. that's the best and only way to get better. if you want we can make a promise to both train everyday and we can check up on each other and feel superior if one did it and the other not.
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>>6185549
just a joke
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>>6185500
i have a funny story about that too....
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