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lewdposting edition

▶Informed consent providers:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
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▶Transition timelines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training:http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
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▶Voice Help:
http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶IRC:https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
▶Zeemaps:https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968

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>>6165790
>lewdposting edition
I CANT STOP HELP
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>>6165789#
happened to me with some census guy but he was obviously hugboxing. or really fucking gay.
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>>6165790
I want a big cock bruising the back of my throat
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>>6165805
show butt
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>>6165801
f-fuck
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Grace is adorable and I wanna k-kiss her!
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maddie x cyba otp
>>6165804
ya the planned parenthood protestors asked me if i had ever considered getting an abortion today and Tbh im tired of everyone fucking hugboxing me
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Korra is suxh a qt and has such an awesome heart like. Gahhh life is good.
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>>6165801
>tfw not being stuffed full of cum right now
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I wish the real trips would come back. There's nothing good about the current mtfg now. I stick to other threads most of the time because of how bad it got.
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>tfw no gem gf ;~;
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>>6165816
elanna stuff my butt
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>>6165818
what ur saying is u have a sad cum bb? :(
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>best relationship
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>>6165790
good edition
I want to lewd Red

>>6165779
well that's just fucking swell
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How do I stop feeling alone
I don't think I interact with people more than once or twice a week. I feel so unattached from reality
I have nothing to offer other people so they have no reason to interact with a loser like me.
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This kind of shit >>6165823 is what I'm talking about.
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>>6165826
I mean it's not a guarantee, it can just make it more likely, just be really self aware and check in w/ppl
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>>6165807
That image is so cruel, I love it~.
>>6165808
<3
Let's hope my work schedule lines up with you coming into town and you can do that plenty.
>>6165816
>tfw
>>6165827
>I don't think I interact with people more than once or twice a week. I feel so unattached from reality
Well you should change that first
>I have nothing to offer other people so they have no reason to interact with a loser like me.
I thought the same but people seem to like me anyway!
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>>6165818
wow im feeling attacked rn
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>>6165818
Which version of old mtfg are you referring to?
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>>6165828
u can't be srs :^)
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>>6165818
ive been here since genesis
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>>6165827
Hello Ami I don't thinknur a loser and I'd love to talk to you ^^ what's up chica? Que pasa?
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>>6165818
Same. I miss kiwi.
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>>6165832
I can probably stay in chicago till the 14th, actually
w-we'll see
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>>6165818

>tfw the last real trip

rip
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>>6165837
>here since genesis
>not since snes
smdh

>>6165820
W-what am I supposed to stuff your butt with? ;~;
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>>6165818
Post the good trips, anon.
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>>6165841
I'm only part time and it seems like they mainly want to use me weekend mornings so maybe it'll work out just fine.
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>>6165843
unban me~!
ribbit ribbit!
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All of you guys are sick mentally ill faggots. Including me.
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>>6165847
Ooh
yay
then we're gonna have a lot of fun
cuddle and watch anime type shit
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Im retriippin
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try the beepbeep diet:
no breakfast just coffee and water
pizza whenever
literally an entire jar 32 ounce jar of hot peppers
cheese covered fries to speed up potassium death
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I think I need to take a break from this place. Might be back in a week or so. Bye all.
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>>6165859
doesn't seem that speedy friend
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>>6165832
I don't know where to go to meet people, I don't really have hobbies and all my friends graduated already and I've still got a year left.
>>6165839
I'm just chillin in bed watching old mst3k episodes on YouTube. Tired after spending all day cleaning my apartment lol. What's up?
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>>6165855
Sounds good to me
Especially if you can stay on the 14th
I'll need you to wind down after my doctor's appointment lol
>>6165860
Bye Kari, be safe <3
>>6165864
Why not start trying right here?
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Is it weird to be reading /mtfg/ for one trip specifically?

I don't have a crush on her, I just find her super interesting.
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i'm going to go to bed, ni ni girls
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>>6165866
Who?
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Is it OK to hate my parents for petty reasons?
They purposefully create a high-stress environment that is visibly detrimental to my physical and mental well-being and blame me for constantly being sick and upset
They also treat me like a child and use my poor health and instability as excuses to continue the aforementioned high-stress environment because that's parenting and they obviously know a lot about parenting because my brother who physically abused me and encouraged his friends to do the same and more turned out to be a rather functional psychopath with a real world job and an alcohol problem
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>>6165866
no. just be sure to flirt with her.
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>>6165866
Which trip?
>>6165870
Goodnight!
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>>6165858
>Aydian

every goddamn time
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>>6165866
Who?
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>>6165854
yes imma faggit what of it

>>6165864
what's that YouTube guy specialize in? I'm not familiar with most of them desu. And I heard that cleaning is hella draining

I'm laying in bed texting my gf and playing my vita desu. I bought a few games for it recently and I wanna beat em
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>>6165834
Nothing personal.
>>6165835
The version with likeable people and didn't induce throwing up in your mouth when you open a thread.
>>6165843
>>6165846
The ones that left. Dollface you left too for a week, why the hell would you come back to this shithole, nothing you had against it got better since then.
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>>6165872
>They purposefully create a high-stress environment that is visibly detrimental to my physical and mental well-being and blame me for constantly being sick and upset
>petty
I DONT THINK THATS PETTY
But yeha like
it sounds like you have some pretty valid reasons to be upset with them
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who /barrel-chested/ here?
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>>6165865
Probably!
Like I said mado and I are going to a rave thing from the 17-19th in vegas so we may need to leave that day
it all seems like a lot of fun and I wanna make it work
i-i could help you unwind i guess
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>>6165880
It just seems kind of mild in comparison to things that are obviously abuse and not just authoritarian parenting
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>>6165871
>>6165873
>>6165874
>>6165876

I... don't really want to say. I don't think she would like the attention.
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>>6165866
no i do this too
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>>6165879
Post list please. I forget trips if they've been gone for more than a week.
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>>6165872
naw they suck
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>>6165866

Why don't you just be her friend on instant messaging services instead
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>>6165884
>>6165885
TELL US TELL US TELL US
>>6165882
I'll be able to let you know 2 weeks in advance hopefully
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>>6165879
well sorry im not entertaining you
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>>6165881
V chested here
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>>6165889
I come here for you.
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>>6165881
right here friend I'm the buffest boy here
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>>6165891
Rip zyzz ;(

And Yee, barrel chested club here

Who /necrophile/ here?
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>>6165884
go ahead do it
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>>6165818
But, I am a real trip, anon!

>>6165854
I'm not a faggot tho.

>>6165879
Sorry we failed u anon.
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>>6165872
>They purposefully create a high-stress environment that is visibly detrimental to my physical and mental well-being and blame me for constantly being sick and upset
That sounds pretty damn abusive to me, even if they're not consciously causing that cycle it's still really shitty. I hope you can move out soon :s
>>6165884
Don't be a tease anon
>>6165891
Flat-chested here :^)
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>>6165881
ye
good news is as long as you've got a shirt on it makes your boobs look bigger
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>>6165889
That'd be perfect!
gosh now I just have to hope I don't end up a disappointment
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>>6165890
I'm neutral to you which you should take as a compliment.
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>>6165893
But why?
>>6165883
Just because it's not an extreme doesn't mean it's not still abuse
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>>6165889
>>6165896
>>6165898

It starts with a K.
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>>6165879

honestly i left because the threads had devolved into a dick measuring cesspool that refused to help anyone, be positive, or even just beneficial for anyone's growth. no one was interested in anything feminine, no one could even get a date with a man when they wanted..... i also left because i was sick of everyone being fake, the constant trip dropping, the in-fighting, the incestuous relationships, and the overall attention-seeking that did nothing but sustain the self-hatred of the trips remaining who had nothing to look forward to other than people's opinions of them on an internet forum.

i was going to say that some of that has changed, but come to think of it....
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>>6165887
But like
Other than being so stressed it makes me physically ill, I have a pretty comfortable life
I don't have any bills, I have a car, moderate amounts of privacy and agency

I would just give it all up in an instant, even if I worked a shit job for barely enough money, just to be free from them
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>>6165901
SAME
I'm gonna be so much worse once you seem me IRL lol, I'm sure someone that met up with me here can attest to that.
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>>6165881
giant ribcage and shoulders reporting in
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>>6165878
mst3k's an old tv show. It's a guy and his robot friends making fun of old crappy movies. And yeah cleaning is pretty draining. Especially when my roommates are total slobs and never clean up after themselves. I feel like I have to be their parents sometimes -.-
That sounds nice! which games did you get?
>>6165865
I mean I guess I could try to meet people here. Though I never have much to talk about. I had somebody email wanting to meet irl but she stopped replying after I sent her a pic of myself. That's totally not demoralizing or anything lol.
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>Develop a crush on a girl here
>She stops posting
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>>6165911
Cutie Grace is cute
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>>6165906
Please don't go!

Did u get pokemon omega ruby for the 3ds?
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>>6165905
Yeah, she's definitely interesting.
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>>6165906
>the incestuous relationships

Nothing wrong with that desu
I just happen to be attracted to my cousin and I can't really help that
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>>6165843
>Cool kids not noticing the peasants that have been under their feet for years

Par for the course desu
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>>6165906
>incestuous relationships
how is faye's tight butt hole?
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>>6165898
I've wanted nothing more my entire life
I am literally crying rn
>>6165904
It just feels weird to call it that
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>>6165906
On the other hand you can feel good that it's how it ends up working here and it wasn't that you guys were particularly shitty.

What feminine things you wish were debated?
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>>6165911
I doubt it! Your personality is adorable, and that's a serious plus! Just be you and I'll be happy to have met you!
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>>6165902
i guess. im pretty nameless. its probably good that way. i wish i had more trans friends but honestly some of us seem a little too high maintenance for me. like i mostly just wanna softsad and cute post.
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>>6165906
Yes it has changed it has only gotten worse. What the actual fuck Dollface.
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>tfw no gf
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>>6165927
Bluh
You should uhm
Skype me I guess like I'm a little different when I'm talking and stuff out loud
I'll try to relax about it though!
>>6165925
I'm sure it feels worse to live it.
>>6165916
I am nottttt
As soon as I step outside I just look ugly
>>6165913
depressed1penguin is my Skype, you're free to say hello any time
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>>6165930
Not interested in playful banter?
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>>6165923
no, it's her character. she's sort of a heel.
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>>6165933
I just want s normal life with some dignity
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>>6165935
eh i dont know to me making fun of each other seems like something 'the guys' to do. like cute bullying is nice but taking jabs at someone and saying just kidding afterwards isnt really my thing..im really nice in person
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>>6165906
And woe the Anons delved to greedily and too deep...

You know what they awoke... In the darkness

Fly, you fools
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>>6165932
>tfw gf who likes me as a man
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Haha guess what genre of fiction I wanna write.

Also, who wants to lewdpost with me
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Super sad now ayyy.
Convinced Chelsea to not visit so her girlfriend and her will be happier since I will be 'interfering' less.
Even if I'm sad that I won't see her again most likely, its better this way.
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>>6165909
tell them!

>>6165913
huh that actually sounds p entertaining I'll have to check him out tnx! And yeah slob roomies are the worst thats why inwent back to live with my parents. um I got :

splunky
resident evil revelations 2
Syphon filter 1 & 2
Tekken 2
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>>6165918

*looks out into distance, switches to faye trip*
honestly i'm just going to go back to being who i used to be in mtfg. no more sister nice edie.
i didn't like those games though. pokemon X is my jam.

>>6165923

what peasants?

>>6165924

i haven't explored it yet idk

>>6165926

i wish people actually enjoyed talking about makeup, and clothing, and had genuinely feminine interests.
because so many girls cycle through here lately, and so many of them are at the beginning of their transition...no one has any experience with men, few people regularly buy women's clothing or even wear it as it is. no one knows shit about makeup, and wearing it is seen almost as a negative. it's stupid af.

>>6165931

we could try to change things you know

>>6165941

L M A O
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>>6165939
>like cute bullying is nice but taking jabs at someone and saying just kidding afterwards isnt really my thing..im really nice in person
Isn't really like that. More like stabbing someone in the face and instigating a lynching mob then make a note to bring it up later for PTSD keks. It's very feminine and cute you know.
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>>6165923
right? faye pls notice me. im just a stupid kid to you but i look up to you kinda
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>>6165925
Aw. The good thing is that you will get out eventually
>>6165932
That feel is not a good feel ;;
>>6165906
Having spent a long-ass time on 4chan I just sort of filter and skim past the shit without even thinking about it. From the little time I've spent here I'd say this general is quite alright and helpful, can't say if it was better before but definitely not as bad as you make it sound.
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>>6165930
I gotchu on that famalam *head pats beep*
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>>6165950
do you ever regret getting into camming?

I'm considering starting so I can start saving up for ffs, but I'm worried about how it'll affect my life 20 years from now when I've moved on.
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>>6165945
I love you puppygirl
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>>6165946
I... can't
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>>6165959
why not! Afraid of the consequences?
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>>6165962
Yes
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>>6165957
love you too but
i wanna just go away
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>>6165939
Like when I called you a pagan and pretended i was some christian nut? Do guys do that?

>>6165950
>not wanting to raise Torchik to a Blaiziken

I guess fennekin is nice, though. Or are you more of a froakie girl?

Dollface is back!
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>>6165963
but how can they know if you never tell them? what about writing a letter ifnita too hard to physically speak and order your thoughts
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>>6165969
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>>6165933
>As soon as I step outside I just look ugly
Lies! I've seen the pics that prove it!
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>>6165967
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>>6165967
I would be afraid to leave the letter unless I had somewhere else to live
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>>6165950
Trying to change it for the better is pointless. There were a lot of people that liked those things too for a couple of months but now they're gone. There is you and maddie now, that's it, we missed our chance to change it for the better 8 months ago.
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>>6165969
Look at how crazy my hair gets
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>>6165950
>no one knows shit about makeup,
Welp, I was going to ask about this soon once I get a bit more mone.
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>>6165950
Also, corset training. What brand do you reccomend? How to start?
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>tfw you realize you're just transtrender
Freedom! See ya bitches.
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>>6165968
let me try

>>6165999
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>>6165976
All I see is the cute
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>>6165979
See you tomorrow!
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>>6165983
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>>6165953
>pats
Hi, I notice you bunches
>>6165950
But we're girls, so our interests are girls interests.

Which include vidyah to help with our anxiety, and lots of science and political things I can't really talk about without it becoming no fun
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>>6165950
Do you remember when the biggest problem in /mtfg/ was just an annoying chaser named Maki?
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>>6165950
idk edie a lot of us cant spent the money on this stuff like you can sometimes..i use mascara liner, shadow and a bought a contour thing recently. i do kinda agree though..a little vague on feminine interests though..sounds kinda trutransy.. theres very little trans talk in here though.. really we just need a few people to like..reorder how these threads work
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>>6165980

>>6165985
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>>6165970
Can anyone redeem this coupon
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>>6165976
You're too beautiful. How do you do your makeup?
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>>6165989
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we need a leader

someone who can make mtfg great again

will anyone step up to the plate?
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>>6165985
faggot was entertaining though
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>>6165994
I agree
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>>6165985
This is the year 2016 AM. After Maki. mtfg has never been the same because of that repressed psycho.
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I give up on everything
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>>6165970
hiya anon! what's shakin?

>>6165971
hm. Their potential response is that extreme huh?

well what if like you asked them to talk and then prefaced it with plz dont get mad and kick me out. Ya know?

>>6165979
>tfw just a boy on hrt
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>>6165950
>and so many of them are at the beginning of their transition...
Sorry?
>no one has any experience with men
Also sorry
>few people regularly buy women's clothing or even wear it as it is
Just got a job and my first outfit yesterday, there will be more of this to come.
>no one knows shit about makeup, and wearing it is seen almost as a negative.
See lack of job, I've also tried talking about hairstyles and stuff before, gonna learn how to do makeup Thursday and start experimenting with this stuff now that I can afford it.
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>>6165999
The first step is admitting it.
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>>6165999
I'm pretty spineless
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>>6165933
I will whrn im out of the shower!!
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>>6165955
awwwhaaw yis
>>6165966
yeah
>>6165984
ty senpai
>>6165992
like everyones not going to elect edie.
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>>6165992
I haven't got over the trauma from Yume bros 3 month reign of terror.
>>6165993
That faggot was funny sometimes. It's crazy when you think that was the biggest thing people got worked up over for a while.
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>>6165997
and booger went andro... those were some good times
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>>6166007
>>6165992
I vote grace, make Mtfg cute post again
>>6166000
Also she has nice trips
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Post unflattering photos
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How to be a man?
I'm too manly to transition.
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>>6166003
yep yep im also agp as fugg

>>6166004
so what's the plan? Suffer in silence ? O.o

>>6166007
I gotchu any time u wanna cute post just hmu
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>>6165950
>i wish people actually enjoyed talking about makeup, and clothing, and had genuinely feminine interests.
but divas like you make it all about interal narratives
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>>6166012
I second this
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>>6165954
>>6165977

it's been going for about 3 years now, so idk. this is a screenshot from literally the first mtfg thread.
it's always been a tad drama, but.........it's just different for people who have been here for awhile, and who have been transitioning for a bit.
the main reason i still come here besides general boredom and the conversation with friends is helping girls with makeup or whatever.
so if you want to talk about that i'm all for it. it's just....girls don't actively seek out things that help push their transition further anymore.

>>6165956

i don't, no.

>>6165966

fennekin is alright, but i don't really like any of the starters. i ditch them ASAP. yay for the raging cunt that is dollface's return tho lmao

>>6165974

i'll fuck everything up, and from the ashes mtfg will be reborn. revelations here we come.

>>6165978

https://www.orchardcorset.com/ this is the best site for cheaper ones. there are guides on the site as well!

>>6165985

he wasn't even really a problem. that was pretty recent actually.

>>6165986
>>6166000
>>6165984

it's not your fault if you're not able to do those things, or if they're not interests of yours.
it's just that the general atmosphere of the threads have changed dramatically, and a lot of it has nothing to do with furthering transitions.
honestly grace you're one of the few people who actively post about improving, and buying new clothes, and all that.
which also makes other people happier. except now rather than the majority being happy, we have more "I'LL NEVER BE A GIRL" posts.
that wasn't the case before. probably because there was a focus on doing more stereotypical female things, and transitioning into a woman.
societies idea of one, yeah, but it was a pursuit that allowed girls to further their transitions to the point of being comfortable/full-time.
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>>6166020
and erp erp erp
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>>6166022
Me and you, we're in a fight right now
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>>6166022

oh oops, i forgot the vintage drama screenshot about potsy and milky. interesting timesss.
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>>6165950
>i wish people actually enjoyed talking about makeup, and clothing, and had genuinely feminine interests.
>because so many girls cycle through here lately, and so many of them are at the beginning of their transition...no one has any experience with men, few people regularly buy women's clothing or even wear it as it is. no one knows shit about makeup, and wearing it is seen almost as a negative. it's stupid af.
Fucking dropped
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>>6166015
first is years ago second is now
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>>6165992

:^)
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>letting dogface shit uona perfectly good thread because he has an opinion

Tell me again why some cam whore's opinion is worth anything? If she doesn't like it here she can fuck right off instead of indirectly shitting on everyone here for not "being on her level". And she wonders why she has so many " haters".
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>>6166016
hung out with some guys and for once, didn't have/crave need to be a real fem
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>>6166012
>>6166021
DONT WORRY SENPAI I GOT YOU
>>6166005
I can't tonight, I'm a little busy with important stuff. :/
>>6165990
I dont yet lmao
My mom is showing me some stuff thursday so I can at least touch my face up a bit.
>>6165981
Eh that's not a bad pic maybe I'll oblige to this anon
>>6166015

>>6166022
>honestly grace you're one of the few people who actively post about improving, and buying new clothes, and all that.
Sorry, I felt like it was a little bit aimed at me because I have some masculine interests and all people have seen is me slowly progressing from a boy to whatever I am now over the last 4 months.
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>>6166035
trip on kayla
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>>6166022
>he wasn't even really a problem. that was pretty recent actually.
Looks like aging time perception is settling in. It was almost a year ago.
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>>6166039
oh ok!
I will later then!
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>>6166037
I hate having male friends but maybe I should stop ignoring my old friends so I can be a manly man again, one of them even watches anime now.

Not everyone can transition without looking like a complete degenerate after all.
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>>6166030
Honestly you look great in both
Much better in your second one though
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>>6166019
If I say yes would it just cement this theory that I'm being abused
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>>6166039
Shit you look amazing even without makeup.
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>>6166045
the first one im a fat boy though
this is like 6 months ago inda unflattering as well
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>>6166047
neglect is still abuse tho . . .
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>>6166027
you have to admit that she really complains in a girly way
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>>6166039
You're progressing very fast for only 4 months. That might be due to your naturally feminine features.
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>>6166043
Yeah, hmu tomorrow and we can talk, I just need to sort things out with a friend and make sure everything is okay.
>>6166048
For real? I have some acne scars to hide at the very least.
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>>6166027
That reminds me of CM Punk bringing up all the shit about the WWE in his promo...
I love this show.
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>>6166050
It's not neglect if they're doing something
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>>6166055
Okie dokie!
And I hope everything is okay with your friend~
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>>6166037
I'm afraid I act extra fem around my friends. I don't carve anyone's dick, but I really can't control it.
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>>6166055
Nobody is flawless unless they're airbrushed. I have seen hot girls that have worse skin. You're just too self conscious.
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>>6166057
but what are they doing?
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>>6166028
Tbh elanna you are a special case where you're so insanely pretty without makeup to the point where makeup wouldn't really do much
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>>6166025

why is that?

>>6166028

you don't have to be a cis het aspiring tranny but are you telling me the constant "I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN" posts now are better than how the thread used to function?
the rate of girls coming through here, and actually transitioning have dropped by a LOT, with or without the drama.
most of the girls who have left these days never went full-time. that's pathetic.

>>6166039

i have massive amounts of respect for girls who genuinely attempt to transition. that just isn't the case as much these days.
even kayla refuses to go full-time and she spent a handful of years bitching us all out before being on HRT now for 14+ months.
tf is with that? that is mtfg now. that's not a good thing.

>>6166041

that really isn't that long desu

>>6166052
>>6166056

rip milky #makemtfggreatagain
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>>6166061
anal beads
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>>6166022
Where am I supposed to post about being a boy now? Do we need to segregate the non tru trans scum like me so that we can talk about a bunch of consumerism?

Why is wearing makeup "furthering transition" only one of my ex girlfriends/friends ever wore makeup, and they were still girls
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>>6166055
God dammit, Grace. Your face looks like shit, take care of that. I read you were going to a doc but be gracious and stop filling the thread with pics that make you look like shit.
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>>6166064
show butt
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>>6166054
Eh I guess I had a nice starting point. This was me 1 year + 1 month ago as a boy. I could post my boy mode from last August but that's horrible to look at :T
I was never good looking with hair cut really short.
>>6166058
I hope so too but I'm not sure what to do.
>>6166060
Maybe I am. I want to be as naturally beautiful as possible and then get good at fashion so that I can make up for whatever my genes lack.
>>6166064
Well, I don't wanna judge or comment on anyone else's transition, all I can say is I'm taking this seriously and I really hope I can go full time by the end of the year. I could be working harder but it's been a long road so far. I went from wanting to kill myself every day to well, I feel honestly the best I ever have lately and things seem great. I dunno. Sorry about getting defensive.
>>6166068
dw i'll start turning bloom and blur up
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>>6166064
>why is that?
Without fights the thread will die

You and me, we're in a fight now. A big one. You bitch.
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anyone want a head pat?
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>>6166068
Pls no bully
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>>6166073
whats wrong? Wanna pm about it in steam or something?
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>>6166064
>that really isn't that long desu
In the grand scheme of things that's 1/3 of the board's existence ago.
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>>6166064
>you don't have to be a cis het aspiring tranny but are you telling me the constant "I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN" posts now are better than how the thread used to function?
>the rate of girls coming through here, and actually transitioning have dropped by a LOT, with or without the drama.
>most of the girls who have left these days never went full-time. that's pathetic.
I want you to be my madam in this whore house.
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>>6165950
>tfw kira was the only person here u could ever rlly kinda talk about weird fashion with

well now I made myself sad
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>>6166061
They try to make me stressed out and it makes me sick and emotionally unstable
I know it's intentional because they do it more when I try to get away from their bullshit
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>>6166022
>if you want to talk about that i'm all for it
It's going to probably take me a few days to get through the makeup info dump in the OP :s
>girls don't actively seek out things that help push their transition further anymore
There's always new blood coming in, like me. Well I'm not exactly new, the trip is new, but now I'm trying to push my transition and not just eat titty skittles thinking they're going to turn me into anime in a year.

I (after calling around a bit in the thread) did get a lot of help for voice practice few days ago so it's not like people here are hostile towards newbies. The social aspect probably just becomes more important the further in transition you get and the less help you need.

>>6166027
Yeah this is exactly the kind of post that I completely filter, at least if the poster is not like my best friend or something. Even then I'd probably not get involved in the general and talked somewhere else instead.

Also Grace is the saving grace of this thread tbqhfamimo. A huge inspiration and a huge cutie.
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>>6166077
Pls slf respct
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>>6166022
well idk how you want people to suddenly further than transition when its a marathon instead of a sprint. like this stuff takes time. i buy new clothes at least once every 3 weeks. i went to kohls last weekend and bought two shirts i liked. i just dont post about it because i agree that no one here really cares. but i still dont know what all these female things are that youre mentioning. so we're not going out getting pursuing to get rammed every night after clubbing. is that what all transwomen have to do? what hobbies do you want to talk about?
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>>6166044
I never had many friends, but camaraderie you have with guys is amazing vs. being this lonely tranny thing that lives in fear of getting clocked/outed
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Update on the mysterious satcheds that were mailed to me that I thought was anthrax. Turns out it was the DMT I ordered. Got the second part of the package today. So I'm gonna trip major balls here soon.
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>>6166082
idk it seems like doing nothing isn't gonna help so at least try something even if you have to get help from someone else

>>6166087
glad ur not dead don't OD!
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>>6166083
Grace is the biggest cutie
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WHO HATH AWAKENED ME FROM MY SLUMBER
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>>6166085
I'd ram you desu
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>>6166086
It was horrible but i'm still manly enough so they wouldn't notice anything.

Hate those plebs though so I dunno.
>tfw friends have shit taste and you want to drop them every time they open their mouth
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>>6166094
I think I know you
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>>6166064
I get that, but why do you have to throw everybody who doesn't have so called "feminine interests" under the bus? I drive home the point of how important full time is for a reason, I didn't learn to pass by reading about it online, I learned how to pass by going outside and fucking up and making mistakes, like everyone should.

Christ edie, you're not the only person here who's fulltime. I understand your frustration at the state of affairs and how few people are progressing, but you don't have to pretend that it's because people here don't have feminine interests or that they're not talking about fashion and makeup all the time. It's an issue because there's too strong of an emphasis on passing before going fulltime which is something that just doesn't happen.

>>6166062
Thank you, but I do honestly still benefit from it and do wear it sometimes. I just don't see the need to talk about it all the time because it's just sort of a part of what I do to get ready, it's not a hobby.
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>>6166100
sup bae show me your butt to help me remember
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>>6166106
I was with Kaylee
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>>6166092
I just want to escape
I almost don't care about having a plan to survive, I'm not terribly sold on the whole "being alive" thing
I just want them out of my life
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>tfw eyelash in my eye
I CANT STOP BLINKING HELP
>>6166078
I need to think about it for a while, I'm not really sure what I'm gonna do or say right now.
>>6166083
>>6166093
Awww, thank you two <3
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>>6166073
Grace gimme a smooch
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>>6166109
is there a relative/friend you stay with?
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>>6166076
I'll take ten.

Getting thin means when I wake up for midnight pills, there's no midnight snack to supplement, and I'm so hungry ;~;. Headpats are a good calorie-neutral treat, though.

>>6166064
It would be nice if thread culture was more about that stuff. I should probably contribute more, if that's what I want to see, huh?
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>>6166076
Meeee pleaseeee
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>>6166116
perfect sissy
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>>6166116
why is this making me giggle
>>6166111
Okay Red <3
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>>6166114
Nowhere adequately escaped from my family
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>>6166116
reminds me of maddie for some reason
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>>6166110
okie dokie
im here if you wanna talk <3
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>>6165950
Oh... I'm going to miss sister nice Edie a lot.
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>>6166116
f e m i n i n e p e n i s
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>>6166066

that's like asking how is wearing female specific clothing helping girls go full time.
we are women, but makeup, styling, hormones, female specific clothing, voice training, and all that help us go full-time.
girls like myself who had deep voices years before starting HRT were still able to live full time with just makeup.
maddie, who is qt and who i love btw, hasn't even been on HRT for as long as kayla and she's passing and looking qt and living full-time because of those things.
THAT USED TO BE THE STANDARD, and if you don't match up to it that's fine, but when only a few girls these days do? wtf
it used to be the opposite

>>6166069
>>6166075

n-no

>>6166073

which is inspiring IMO, and i have a great deal of respect for you. which is lowkey why i went off on valq the other day for being shitty lmao!!

>>6166079

i'm old af sorry

>>6166080

ok

>>6166081

iktf. there were so many different kinds of girls.
this place wasn't just a distraction, it was also a community where you could connect with other girls about those kinds of interests. now, not so much.

>>6166083

well if you ever need any help with anything that i cann help with, like dosages or makeup or voice training or whatever, let me know.
that's what this thread is supposed to be for.

>>6166085

i want people to care about the fact that you bought new clothes, and the fact that you're running the marathon that is transition.
i don't want people who haven't even started walking to be bitching nonstop about the marathon ahead.

>>6166105

i'm not trying to throw anyone under the bus by saying these things. it's just...
people don't even suggest clothing, or makeup, or anything anymore when people have issues with it. people just berate and troll and call you a man, or tell you that you have bad taste.
it would be a lot different if more people had those kinds of interests, or there were conversations about them, but there isn't. so people just feel like shit and stop trying.
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>>6166115
u got it b0ss! how many lbs are you down so far?

>>6166119
you get cuddles and head pats <3

>>6166124
well idk then this seems like a problem that wont go away until u confront it. Here have a head pat
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>>6166133
show me your fat booty you dirty slut
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>>6165950
>i wish people actually enjoyed talking about makeup, and clothing, and had genuinely feminine interests.
Lol, I'm into all of those things desu, and ya I don't wear makeup too much, but I'm getting into it. Talk to me about fashion, shoes, or men any day any time lol. Hmu on Skype some more, =)
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Sorry if i was being annoying.....

Someone warmed me up

Now require kooooringggu douuunnnnnn period

Based Kami sama based
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>>6166100
We have met, yes.

That other post wasnt me
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>>6166133
alright neato. tomorrow morning maybe ill post me trying the contour thing i got and ill show some shirts im trying too.
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>>6166133
its a little bit ironic that you and maddie, the paragons of transconsumerism being the gold standard that I don't meet are both dating the most non fem transbians in the thread

>8^)
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>>6166133
*tips token*

please show butt
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>>6166133
>berate and troll and call you a man
It's cause of this stupid boymode till fail hrt shit. Girls think they need to pass in all male clothes with 0 make up to pass. And other issues you're a failure. Ita pretty stupid, I went ft pre hrt too and it's really just a matter of knowing how to dress, act, voice, and make up.

Its weied how putting zero effort into passing has become admirable with 'boymode till fail' mentality
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>not having after sex snickers ice cream

R u even spoilt?
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>>6166110

how do you feel about ldrs
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>>6166136
Eleven since this time last month. Which puts me 5 above my target weight for June. Surprised at how effective dieting and light exercise is.

Also a good thing, since it turns out I'm a lot shorter than my parents said I was many moons ago. 165 is still chubby, but 176 was legitimately overweight.
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I wish I was a girl.

I wish I wasnt trans.
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>>6166133
alot of anons shit on everyone and everything and no one really steps uonti defend the ppl their attacking. Any constructive critism that is positive is met with the accusation of hugboxing. Anyone that doesn't pass or isn't pretty is called a man and told to get out immediately. If you don't look like a girl pre hrt you are told to kill yourself as quit transitioning.

like how do you even do something about that besides trying to be positive and help out where you can. I know I try but I get dumpstered for it. Hell i get crap irl and here for even daring to attempt transition bc of my looks. Its hard to stay positive when that's the majority attitude or the loudest voices.
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>>6166122
Why iisss it making you giggle?
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>>6166094
my god
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>>6166159
:o show penis
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>>6166160
Its nice to know they get to you.
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>>6166064
That's how mtfg is now you can't avoid it you have to join it. Everyone is a hugbox or has some snide secret drama with someone else. A couple of months ago I decided I got fed up of telling people to fix their lives only to be insulted by a mob of hons. So I worked my ass off to change, and started propping baby hons up with pedestals to join in on the fun. I worked my ass off to be as fake as I could, my best work is making Grace the mtfg homecoming queen. Shit is hilarious.
>>6166073
You're already naturally beautiful the way you are. Don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise, they're just jealous of your feminine qualities.
>>6166105
You're a qt Elanna please let me suck your toes.
>>6166116
Cis girls not allowed.
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>>6166170
this honestly
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>>6166170
how is that nice to know?
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fucking zionists
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>>6166133
To be fair, nobody really asks that kind of stuff either. If someone asks "hey how do I do this style of makeup" or "hey what kind of clothing item would help with a body feature like this" they generally get an answer, but there's not a lot of room for that when someone is posting a guymode photo and asking if they pass.

I guess I say this as someone who doesn't dress traditionally feminine, and doesn't wear a lot of makeup but has few issues with passing, but it's not those things that are holding people back right now. What's holding people back right now is a cultural problem. There's a fear of the embarassment of the awkward phase, there's people that are getting solely clocked because they lack confidence, and people are ignoring advice related to passing through wardrobe and makeup means simply may not resonate with them.

I dunno, I get bothered when being traditionally feminine is equated with passing, because it's way more complicated than that.
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>>6166149
dont worry faye you are much more interesting to talk to. for mindless crap i can just read a magazine or watch mtv, i dont need to live it on 4chan
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>>6166160
>daring to attempt transition bc of my looks. Its hard to stay positive when that's the majority attitude or the loudest voices.
=( don't let anyone say anything to you they're all just haters and unhappy people. I think you're really awesome, just keep moving forward with your transition, there are people in your life that unconditionally care about you focus on what they say, not some random anons that are salty.
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>>6166180
the fact that you just started talking to her today and are already saying things like this is creepy as fuck
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>>6166171
>cis girls not allowed.
Is this an insult or a compliment?
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>>6166098
I knew guys through work, and most were older and very professional and no drama. everyone was super chill

>tfw missed out on their big parties
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>>6166179
Edie is amazingly smart on a lot of stuff, we can talk for hours about literally anything, I think she has a point she's Building too.
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>>6166161
I DONT KNOW
ITS JUST LIKE
ITS SO SILLY
THE OUTFIT
THE PICTURE
THE PENIS
>>6166156
Depends on how ld, how often we'd see each other, how i feel about the person, and the prospects of us living together and stuff.
>>6166133
I appreciate that, I really did. I hope I really do have a good impact on other people here, that's why I do stuff like post that pic which compares my acne. It's embarrassing but might help someone so I'll be happy to do it for their sake. Idk like I wanna be a good person, I don't wanna be a blackhole of negativity and bring people down with me.
>>6166126
Thank you <3
>>6166171
>I worked my ass off to be as fake as I could, my best work is making Grace the mtfg homecoming queen. Shit is hilarious.
>haha yeah bro i tell her she's pretty that'll make her feel pathetic, funny right?
I mean you made me laugh with some of the posts you made
Doesn't mean you didn't make me feel good sometimes. I even saved a lot of posts recently for my "Positive thinking" folder I have
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>>6166171
>pic
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>>6166181
Lol, I've known her for over 6 months. But only as friends cause I didn't think anyone would ever really love me, she can attest to this.
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>>6166180
ik ik i try to focus on the positive and help out other ppl feeling down. dw im not feeling down at all =o its actually the opposite I'm m quite happy bc ur such a positive influence ^^

>>6166181
we've known each other for months now lol
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>>6166160
Have this little finger grab of lewd support.

You're one of my favourites for a good reason. Try not to let jealous, bitter things hurt you - you've already left them sucking fumes.
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>>6166178
Post pic of you dressed traditionally NEET.
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>>6166193
well if being with a man makes you happy then by all means be happy
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>>6166171
>That story
>You're a qt Elanna please let me suck your toes.
You know, fuck you
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>trying to comprehend this drama in my cum drowned brain

Uhhhhh

Hi red!

COOLING DOWN PERIOD
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>>6166188
Pff. Haha. Yeah, I could see it. I guess a penis isn't the most feminine. Trans general is both sexual and gender though, eh? benis aside, if I started hrt, think I could pass?
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>>6166188
I still think you're cute!
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>>6166188
grace i want to gibe you lots of kisses and hug you hard
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>>6166198
can i please suck your toes instead elanna ill do i good job i promise
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>>6166176
I want you to birth my child
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hey boys

whats up
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>>6166115

it really would be honestly. i used to be so proud of all of the girls who posted here, not that it means much.
like stories of kim, and maddie, and rawr, and angie (even if those last two are a little BDD) were wonderful to read about.
all of the old posters who aren't here anymore in those super old tier lists.. it inspired like....everyone. i miss that.

>>6166142

I WILL!!!!

>>6166147

I'M GENUINELY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT DESU

>>6166149

i mean you're diff since you got on mones and have giant tits and look like a cis woman.
that's not really most people's experiences whether your interests are feminine or not lol

>>6166154

>It's cause of this stupid boymode till fail hrt shit.
yeah, see, that isn't how it used to be. people went full time before boymode failed.
which admittedly wasn't always conducive to cis seeming trans women, but it got people out of the closet.
nowadays girls avoid leaving the male label behind for as long as possible... if they even do leave it. it sucks.

>>6166160

i'll be louder then. you're right, it's not fair, and it is shitty. most of the time people attack me for hours before anyone says anything as it is, but i'm used to it. ya'll shouldn't have to get used to it.
everyone needs to defend one another. that's what made this place good at one point. we encouraged each other to get through the bs.

>>6166171

STOP

>>6166178

yeah, but again, in all fairness, that's because of how different the atmosphere is now than it used to be.
we're not really a nurturing general anymore. it's a shark tank of useless comments, diatribes, and suicidal ideation.
which i've contributed to as well, and is shitty.
those cultural problems were even worse before this past year though...so then it becomes what did change?
and the answer is the general, and how we treat everything.

>>6166188

everyone used to think the same way you do, and it made this place a lot more...idk. inspiring. i commend u.
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>>6166202
hi there~!
<3
I love you
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>>6166133
>well if you ever need any help with anything that i cann help with, like dosages or makeup or voice training or whatever, let me know.
Ah thank you so much. I was such a fool to waste a year not putting any effort into this and it honestly felt worse to be a failed tranny than a cis guy. Now I'm trying my hardest to commit to this fully. I think my dosage is finally fine, though I'm sorta on the fence if I should be taking 4 or 6mg estradiol valerate per day. My breast growth is lagging behind so the extra might help, then again my clotting risk isn't monitored so I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.

Makeup is such a mess though and I don't even know where to begin. My idea is to make this huge-ass shopping list on amazon or something since I'm starting from scratch where I'd pile all the basic tools and whatever they're offering product-wise. Atm I'm still trying to comprehend the whole array of products available and what they're used for so unless you have some really general tips I'm probably not going to know what you're talking about.

As for clothing I'm going to have to skip for now due to lack of mones, I'm okay enough with my summer 'style' if you can call it that, maybe I'll have more money towards the end of the year. With voice it's probably going to take a month or two to figure out whether I'm stalling again or making progress.

>>6166210
From the thumbnail I thought it was going to be some girl taking a dogtinker. I'm not sure whether I'm happy or sad that it wasn't.
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>>6166216
lol what the fuck kinda text wall is this
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>>6166209
B-b-b-but anon, i'm just a boy
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>>6166171
This is way too funny I'm still laughing hard.
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>>6166205
Thank you <3 I've been told that a lot lately, by people who aren't anonymous and actually came forward to me and stuff. I feel amazing and actually accept that I'm cute now for the most part. It's been wonderful and I appreciate everyone helping me finally get some level of confidence.
>>6166206
I want you to give me lots of kisses and hug you really hard Red
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we need more chasers in this thread desu, it's a gt fest in here

that's probably why the culture is so bad now
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>>6166174
probably because he was really trying to hurt you.
although I personally feel that being open about being hurt is pretty cool, the idea that we need constant hate is easy to turn it background noise but it really takes down any kind of positivity you had.
It's funny that a lot of boards used to be way more civilized and that kind of attituded was answered with "go back to /b/". /x/ was the only place I remember permanently trying to be about something while 60% of the posters were shitposting.
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>>6166171
this thread is full of insane people
i love it
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>>6166197
:/ I'd rather be with Chris chan then some ≠\ spiteful jealous person like you. But ya I am happy k-korra is really cute and has an awesome heart. I think I'm lucky to have her.
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>>6166220
dumb drakeposter
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>>6166224
>/mtfg/ men
I prefer my guys from not here, they're less faggy and sane that way
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>>6166221
I'm going to throw you on the bed (pomf =3)
smack my pre-cum soaked dick across your face then fuck you right proper up yor fanny and impregnate you, we can get married after that if you like
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>>6166231
>I prefer my guys from not here
brb gotta hero
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>>6166229
whatever you say you creepy fucker you
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>>6166231
hey come on birdy isn't representative of all guys here
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>>6166230
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>ywn get your boss to hire elanna as a game dev at a AAA company you work for
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>>6166234
Sorry anon but if you're here at /mtfg/ you are either not a guy or probably have some issues
>>6166236
No comment
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>>6166236
>birdy
>guy
literally giggled
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>>6166206
me too
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>>6166238
>ywn use elanna's perfect naked butt as a pillow as you play her box office hit portable console game she singlehandedly developed
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>>6166207
:/

>>6166216
>so then it becomes what did change?
Shit like >>6166171 happened. It's like the people that are actually genuinely helpful either left or stopped being helpful, and all that's left are the insane ones that would rather people crash and burn than actually improve.

>>6166196
No, I havn't gotten out of my pajamas in like 2 days.
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>>6166243
I'd love to give you a hug. Maybe I could finally get you to relax a little bit.
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>>6166232
i hope you don't mind me moaning really loudly...can i still be in an open relationship. I need lots of cum!!!'
>>6166231
I'm a boy
guess I'll go
>>6166223
grace you are a strong soul
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>>6166240
>Sorry anon
just a sec
i have to walk down to the train station to take a picture of a train from the middle of the level crossing
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>>6166216
I can't help but read you as a 35 year old woman.
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>>6166242
wats this about bird anon? i only browse once in a while, i thought everyone here loved him
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>>6166249
>No, I havn't gotten out of my pajamas in like 2 days.
This is me right now.
I have uni in an hour, but eeeeeeeeeeeeh
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>>6166251
>I'm a boy
>>6166240
>not a guy
Sorry Red
>grace you are a strong soul
You gotta be if you're gonna transition and go to /mtfg/ every day at the same time lol
Only reason I can be like this at all is because of all the friends I have like you making sure I never fall.
>>6166253
Fuck off.
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>>6166249
>No, I havn't gotten out of my pajamas in like 2 days
This image is a pretty cute one to go back to sleep to.
Goodnight girls. See you bright and early for my morning trudge to work.
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>>6166258
he's alright but he's a dingus and a girl
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>>6166258
everyone does love her
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>>6166223
>tfw all the positive attention you've given to her is going to make her a go-getter that will eventually forget about you
>tfw i would have needed to be manipulative and destroy her confidence instead had i wanted her to latch onto me
>tfw i would never be able to do that to her
f-fly along little bird, you're going to great places with your life, i'll be here cheering you on ;;
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Hey everybody!

Imma robot
I just kinda roam about
But there's the pink button on my back
And when you press it i fall and squirm and noise

USEFUL FUCKING ROBOT
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>>6166251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw8Br7a1GpQ
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>>6166171
Grace got where she is herself, just because you tossed a few fake compliments her way, doesn't mean that the rest weren't true
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Like Dollface said
Girls here used to get grilled and heckled if they looked like Kayla or Kiwi and countless others today.
Everybody tried to pass and worked hard on self improvement.
They didn't post pics with a thick ass unibrow in guy clothes expecting to get compliments and told they pass.
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>>6166264
>>6166265
lol wat? birdy's a (cis?) girl?
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>decide to leave mtfg forever
>know that i won't be missed at all
The worst part of being Anon.
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>was planning on practicing voice under the blanket of darkness while everyone is asleep
>1:30 AM and I've been reading scary stories for the past hour or so, now I'm creeped out and don't want to leave my room

I'm a dummy
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>>6166279
awww i just want to hold you in my arms and cuddle you
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>>6166277
no
birdy is a """"""""guy"""""""""
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>>6166278
Let's leave togheter anon, this hugbox is so toxic.
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>>6166266
>forgetting about the friends who have helped me get this far
Yeah no. I'll always appreciate what everyone has done for me. Don't feel like I'm just gonna move on from you because my life got better. I won't. Send me a message on whereever you know me, please.
>>6166268
>push button
>>6166271
>doesn't mean that the rest weren't true
See like, I'm friends with many anons here, or became friends after this weekend
By trying to troll me like that on anon they only helped my confidence which was really fucking silly if they wanted to do otherwise.
I feel amazing, I have even more people who make me feel that way now, I might even be meeting up with one or two.
They can be jealous and try to bring me down or whatever the heck they do, but that shit ain't gonna work.
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>>6166231
>>6166240
>tfw a guy
Oh well.
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>>6166279
You should smoke some of this hash. It's pretty damn good. It'l help ya chill out.
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>>6166278
we are but the audience of the mtfg general's glory.
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>>6166278
i will miss you so much
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>>6166261
...maybe i'm a girl
>>6166269
please pound my bp
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>>6166271
You're right Grace got nowhere herself.
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>>6166282
Ah, I see.
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>>6166285
You're not a guy, mom.
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>>6166278
>leave mtfg forever

see you in a month anon
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>>6166293
being a 4chan hero really isn't that important in your regular life
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>>6166284
Not only do you look amazing, you are amazing hon. Trust in the hug box, have faith in the hug box, the hug box will never tell you bad news. It's your friends after all.
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D E A D

same time EVERY night
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>>6166293
>>6166299
>start transition
>NEET
>repulsive
>not many friends
>suicidal
>going nowhere fast
>4 months later
>happy
>have a job
>many friends
>i at least look decent
>life is getting better
>>6166303
Ty bae I'm glad you're in my box
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>>6166295
No. Am man.
I'm going to start lifting again so everyone will stop saying Im so skinny and staring at me all the time.
But I dont want to lift. But I have to.
Man.
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>>6166268
25i is a helluva drug kids
Dont be like this druggie
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>>6166299
There's no progress at all. If that isn't somewhat more important than being hug boxed then you're beyond help.
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>>6166259
Go to class, it's good for you. I'm a filthy hypocrite though so my opinion shouldn't matter.

>>6166262
Goodnight akaka
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>>6166309
Don't be silly you're gonna be a cute girl.
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>>6166188
>>6166223
>>6166261
>>6166284
>>6166308
Is this the era of Confident Grace?
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>>6166279
That's cute as fug. I'm still just saying a's and m's trying to hit those notes and to make my voice more confident.
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>>6166313
>Go to class, it's good for you.
I will, it's just yeah
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>tfw your gf is with a cis girl who's dtf and wet RIGHT NOW.
Hahahah fuck I HATE not having a vagina.
i'm just a dumb slutty faggy boy toy to her, not a cis girl....
k i l l m e
>>6166308
grace <3
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>>6166315
Yeah.
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>>6166315
Will she be crowned the first trip without any real self esteem issue?
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>>6166314
Someone who is 6'2" can never be cute. I'm doomed in so many ways.
Go on without me Grace. I'll hold them off.
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>>6166319
Are you having an identity crisis or something?
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>>6166308
Over the last month I learned from the way you take compliments that a hon can be quite endearing. Like a homeless neighborhood cat that you feed and pet sometimes.
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>>6166321
They'll come back when people start getting spiteful of her success and start talking her down.
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>>6166325
I'm 6'2 and don't necessarily fit in with girls. I'm just a feminine male.
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>tfw you are one of the perma-boymode rejects because you cannot get over the fear
I don't want to be like this but I can't seem to change.
I'm honestly considering suicide over a chance to face maybe ridicule at worst, I'm so fucking retarded.
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>>6166321
She will be crowned home coming queen.
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>>6166315
Yeah, im gonna try and make it so, with or without any anonymous compliments lol
>>6166321
There has to be more.
>>6166320
You helped. <3
>>6166324
Look at Red, shes super pretty and tall like you.
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>>6166287

Smoking absolutely WRECKS my vocal cords.

>>6166317

I'm not really sure how I'm gonna practice. I tried doing this program I found, but I keep doing the exercises and then falling off. I think I'm just gonna try reading out loud while trying the muscle trick in the OP.
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>>6166335
thanks grace....
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>>6166311
iron pill is so based

mirin hoodvest too
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>>6166335
>super pretty
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End me
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>>6166329
I much prefer talking people up and giving them false confidence. I get my keks and they feel good about themselves. It's a win win situation.
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>>6166219

i wrote this for adri, but it might help you as well! http://pastebin.com/FduVyThG

>>6166249

well then what do we do about that?

>>6166257

i'm 70

>>6166275

also tru
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>tfw Grace's golden age has begun
It's a good feel.
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>>6166335
Please t-teach me to n-not hate myself, senpai
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>>6166341
Any time Red. I saw a shirt that was like the one you always wore when I was shopping, i wanted to get it and be like you but red doesnt go well with my skin.
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>>6166319
Wow red who could have foreseen this outcome
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>>6166345
You're too gorgeous to die.
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>>6166349
pls I'll love u enough for both of us <3
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>not getting filed with cum to this song
youtu.be/Esw42RpchPI
>are you even life

>>6166319
Yep.....I'm sorry, but yep
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>>6166348
Delusions usually are :^)
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>>6166345
What's wrong Isla?
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>>6166343
Would cuddle tenderly.
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>>6166308
I'm basically still in the same starting point was you were even though I started transition a year ago. Only person I can blame for it is myself for not putting in the effort, seeing how hard you work for it and where it's getting you is giving me so much motivation. <3

>>6166340
>muscle trick in the OP
I honestly don't understand what's the big deal about it. I can move my voicebox around but the voice is still masculine and deepish as fug.

>>6166347
It's certainly laid out better than the huge list of stuff in the OP. It'll probs help me out, thanks!
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>>6166319
iktf

>tfw your gf keeps saying how much she misses pussy
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>>6166343
I think it's pcute tbhdesu
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>>6166347
I don't know. I can offer advice when it's asked for but I can't very well do anything about people that get their jollies from setting people up for failure. Just plain not tolerating it is probably too much to ask of a general that seems intent on tearing itself apart.
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>>6166353
as if looks has anything to do with the value of a human
at least i don't think it does.
just end me.
>>6166359
I do not wish to exist.
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>>6166343
that picture is 2 years old.
>>6166350
that shirt is getting old...i might retire it soon
we could be twins tho
>>6166351
i know....
good thing i want her to cuck me.

i'm going to run so i can get a nice ass so i can please kaylee like a good subby girlboy.
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>>6166231
Would you let me fuck you with my silly outfit and penis? Post a pic, Grace.
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>>6166171
Fucking kek
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>>6166370
I want you to exist o.o
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>>6166363
yume is crazy dude
why haven't you realized that its only natural to be attracted to a psychopath because they're very attractive and will do everything they can to keep you attracted to them and are very good at that, but in the end will cause your life to spiral out of control because no matter how much they try to convince you that they've changed your life positively they've in fact made it much worse, and just move on?
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>>6166354
D'awww you're so perfect. Tell me your favorite movie? =)
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>>6166378
don't really care.
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>>6166362

That's weird, 'cause I'm pretty sure I've noticed it changes the sound when I hold it there.

>>6166281

I like cuddling.
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>>6166370
please stay strong isla. We need to stick together
>>6166363
yeah...kaylee loves being with cis girls...she makes fun of me for not having a cunny. being a sub is hard

okay squats time
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>>6166372
Well you chose the right person for that i guess
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>>6166382
haha oh my god dude all my fave movies are like anti feminine but if I HAD to pick just one, it would be pulp fiction. Gosh I love every single thing about that movie ESPECIALLY the dialog.

>say what again i dare you, I double dare you!
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>>6166387
......
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>>6166386
>That's weird, 'cause I'm pretty sure I've noticed it changes the sound when I hold it there.
A bit yes but I'm not sure if it's distracting me more than its helping because I haven't made any progress beyond that slight change that comes with it in all my time practicing. I hope it works for you, I'm going to go slower and use that 'trick' just to hide adams apple :P
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>>6166347
>i'm 70
feel free to take it as a compliment, i guess
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>movie idea
>something like human centipede

But crazy scientists catches 2 cis women and one stealth post op trans women. He give them testosterone for one year.

We see them developing dysphoria because of it.

General public will sympathize with us!

But it should be FtM direction only not MtF. Forced feminization is too pervy.
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>>6166354
>>6166382
>>6166390
JUST SKYP YOU DOLTS
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>>6166363
h-hi gem *sniffles* :)
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>>6166387
w/e
i choose not to
ill just sit and hope it changes
Maybe be super social and force things.
I just want drugs again and it sucks.
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>>6166398
>seeing popular girl turning into greasy fat looser with pedostache.
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>>6166390
>anti feminine
Please no, oh gosh. I really liked the first hunger games movie, the rest sucked.
>>6166399
We have whatsapp but it drains her battery so this is good too =)
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>>6166403
i hope you feel better isla ur a good girl
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>>6166390

Good taste in movies, Korra.

>>6166392

Can you get it to pull back and up to the same position as when you swallow? I can't seem to move it that drastically.
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>>6166407
eh only people on the internet say that
nobody irl ever says that
ever...
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I'm so fucking blessed
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>>6166412
Oh boy, TWO meals!
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>>6166343
Ohhhh my goodness girl
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>>6166411
i could yell it out my window if you want

listen really closely and maybe you'll hear me
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>>6166381
Lots of trips in couples fit the description of a psychopath or sociopath.


* People that move quickly to a new relationship are the biggest warning sign.

* The problem is always with their ex. They're not upset about it they just move on.

* They will always get their gf/bf to vouch for them and even lie for them.

* They're not capable of real love they only mimic it to achieve their self serving desires.

* They will make you want to do things that you would never want to do normally.

* Lying is a way of life, they're professionals at it, they might even believe their own lies.

* Attachments are always shallow and focus on superficial activities.

* They might not realize that they are psycho.
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>>6166415
One is mine!
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>>6166424
Is the other yours too? :^)
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>>6166408
>Can you get it to pull back and up to the same position as when you swallow? I can't seem to move it that drastically.
Yep though pulling it back makes it a bit harder to breathe so sometimes I involuntarily let go of the back-pull. Sometimes I just can't find the right muscles and I get it up there by swallowing and letting go a bit so I can breathe.
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>>6166363
I said this as a joke to Edie last night while on uppers, and desu it was inappropriate.

You shouldn't say things to your gf that degrade her even jokingly
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>>6166420
not worth it
>>6166422
lol actually seems kinda true
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>tfw your friends are sad
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>>6166429
Why are your friends sad?
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>tfw heavily debating with faye over audio msgs

SHE MADE A FEW GOOD POINTS DESU.
i want to apologize to anyone who thinks i was attacking them for not having stereotypical female interests. cause that's not what i was trying to do.

however..........and i say this lovingly...........
my problem is that there was a time where even ufufu was made fun of by salty anons because she "wasn't cis enough."
that was awful, and completely over the top since she's obviously extremely passable. however....
we've gone from a woman who is obviously cis af looking being trolled, and continuing to attempt to improve her appearance because of it (however misguided) to women who have barely started mones inciting the idea that you can never live as a woman. we went from girls like haato who were just on HRT, who were happy and who had normal lives without a ton of surgeries, to women who have had FFS that still think they look like men and post nonstop about being hideous.

this place has a really distorted view on what should be idealized, and it has nothing to do with transitioning anymore, or being happy.
it's this weird pit where the majority of people who too scared to do anything, including starting mones or even thinking of transitioning.
when we used to talk about our transitions, or makeup and clothes or whatever, we aimed to improve ourselves.
it was like sharing your goals, aspirations, and your journey to it. now people are too scared to take the first step.
and that sucks, and idk what to do about it.
i just feel like when we were all more positive and we fostered an environment that focused on learning things that cis women have, whether we included them into our daily lives or not, this place was better.

so ya. there's my rant. there u go. i'm gonna try to improve the things i see as negatives in the threads as well.
p.s. i'm a drag queen man monster etc /walloftext
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>>6166430
if she wanted to talk about it here she would
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>>6166412

yo are you eating off of a carpet
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>>6166432
im a crab in a bucket and im proud of it
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>>6166266
Why not become a confident go-getter with her, then? Work to be the kind of person that she would be happy to latch onto.
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How to become a cute anime girl?
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>>6166432
ily edie
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>>6166432
what happened to haato?

I kind of disappeared for like a year and a bit and only recently started coming back here, so I'm super out of the loop lol
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>>6166438
i think she's going to find someone before I can get to that point
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>>6166432

>it's this weird pit where the majority of people who too scared to do anything, including starting mones or even thinking of transitioning.

I've only been around for about a month but I have noticed this is a constant idea.
>>
I'd love to share in that kind of conversation, but I'm kind of stuck in a corner where all I can really do is pop skittles.
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>>6166426

muscles are weird
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>>6166439
If you want to transition to 2D, you'll need to start dimension replacement therapy ASAP. If you're over 12, your chances of passing as 2D are slim.
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>>6166446
>>6166432
Also I'm still retarded and unable to reply to things properly
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>>6166432
I'll be here to help the positivity whenever I can. I enjoy helping when dysphoria isn't messing with me
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>>6166444
Who are you?
>>6166432
This is why I like and respect you edie. You've got your shit together, you've stayed you, you've been around a long time and keep it real.
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>>6166432
You do realize that I was the first honest dedicated anti feminine alpha male trans girl on MTFG and that I adopted it purely because you and ufuflu and the rest had your little cliques that only held up - beauty standard of the 1%.

These are my descendants, we are the future of qt andro free trans women, who may dress up cute occasionally if we feel like it. And we are the future.
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>>6166451
Shit
I'm over 12 years old
What do I do now?
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>>6166454
>Who are you?
its a secret
>>
>>6166452
>Tetra
Is this the Tetra that I used to know?
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>>6166432
You have nothing to apologize about and least of all because of Faye. She feels defensive because come on you all know why.
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>>6166461
Do I need to brush your hair?
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>>6166462
Where do you think you know me from?
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>>6166464
OH MY GOD YOU'RE SO CUTE
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>>6166464
Brush mine pls
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>>6166465
We used to talk on skype if you're the same Tetra
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>>6166462
now you're just some tetra that i used to know
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>>6166442
All the pre-2015 trips left
Haato left in early 2014, she's been gone awhile
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>>6166432

i'd also like to add that the obvious change that has occurred as well is that self-deprecation has started to become the only way to get attention.
mostly because, like beep said, no one cares about whether you buy some new clothes, or try on some new makeup, or whatever.
people only care when you say you want to kill yourself, or you call yourself disgusting. ex: sheen
which is really negative and just feeds into this cycle of toxicity. it's bad.

>>6166437

i'm proud of u lil crab

>>6166440
>>6166454

ily

>>6166442

she's doin fine! she's still happy and with her gf. she just doesn't post here anymore too often.

>>6166445

it fucking sucks.

>>6166446

that's totally okay, you're still making really positive steps in your life! there's always voice conversations, and other things to learn, too.
it's not always financially inclined, tho a lot of it is.....which blows

>>6166453

#istandwithkorra
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>>6166463
Because I'm a feminist, and my aesthetic isn't based around being attractive to cis men?
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>>6166464
>brush hair

*dies*
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>>6166467
Was I right?
>>6166469
>>6166475
*brush brush*
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>>6166458
I assume you're trolling, but holy shit you are retarded
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>>6166432
>it was like sharing your goals, aspirations, and your journey to it.
Maybe the pool of people who are willing/able to put themselves out there to that degree is just smaller? There are still people here who are going through that sort of stuff but very few can break into the clique that's going on in here. Most people who have the knowhow to help new people have formed cliques/friendships and a new trip is likely to drown out in their chatting unless they try really hard to get noticed ie. Grace
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>>6166458
Bullshit Faye you always dressed and acted like a tough guy hon. The only thing that changed is you took hormones but you're lazy and pathetic. Until it's time to take a pic then you manipulate the shit out of that. You're fake as fuck.
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>>6166477
thanks senpai
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>>6166481
I talk to everyone tho. just say hi and you get attention!
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>>6166479
How so? I'm honestly confused
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>>6166470
That's a difficult one. I've namefagged as Tetra once or twice, and this was my handle for the tinychat and discord... but I've never used it as a Skype name.
I hope that sorts things out?
>>6166473
It's better than nothing... but it's more like I made a positive step and I'm just maintaining it now
I'm kind of at a point where I don't know what to do with my voice...
The problems with the rest are partially financial and partially living with my parents although I guess technically that's a financial issue too
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>>6166474
Now you're just appropriating labels to retcon yourself. If anyone here is part of the patriarchy it's the hon that has benefited from years in the army. Not Ufufu who by the way is a real fucking feminist that opposes patriarchal beauty standards.
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>>6166483
Wait did you even read my post? It's basically saying I do exactly what you're accusing me of to undermine this ideal that you have to be a cis girl from a magazine that was created by the fear of being trans that a lack of community instills in people.

I'm really confused about why you'd just rehash what I just said.
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>>6166477
brush me too pls
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>>6166486
Give me attention, bby. Check my boy gear. Am I girly enough?
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>>6166474
>looks like shit
>doesn't pass
>thinks they're smashing beauty standards
Oh honey.
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>>6166499
>>6166499
>>6166499

here btw i did the thing
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>>6166490
I'm glad ufufu could pose with her full face of makeup, heels, and corsets, because displaying any female body can be feminist, but it's very far fetched to say that her constantly posing in a corset is a symbol feminism
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>>6166492
Because you're fake ass shithead. Bullshit you ever thought about beauty standards which this has nothing to do with.
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>>6166497
Wait who are you dating? A nobody? Wait who are you? I bet you've heard of us, but I haven't heard of you desu anon.
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>>6166504
You'd be surprised how much of what I do is on purpose
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>>6166435
2 blessed 4 u

It was really fugging good

Back to lewd now
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>>6166503
>>6166504
>>6166506

ladies pls no fighting
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>maddie isn't in my bed
Worst. Feel.

Also when did mtfg become a place to debate feminism. I haven't been around long but I thought this was all about getting to passing.
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>>6166422
If you fit some of this but your ex was abusive, are you still a sociopath?
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>>6166494
sure and yeah you look like a girly boy. Get hrt ASAP and you'll be a bombshell
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>>6166519
Remove feminism
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>>6166497
>>6166504
what cracks me up is faye's pseudo-intellectualism

it's like 10pts above kayla's iq
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>>6166544
thank you. I want a girlfriend.. >:|
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tfw I will never pass
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Guys I wanna be a tripfag too
what should my cool name be
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>>6166016
>how to be a man

>I'm too manly to transition
So, you're a guy?
if so, why ask how to be a man?
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