/ftmg/ FTM General

Told you I'd do it.

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>>6129190
IN
Fuck u Farage

OUT
Fuck the TTIP. Fuck the troika. Fuck the EU's trade strong-arming of weaker nations.

Not a Brit though. You do you.

I'm thinking in. We're kicking up enough fuss to get special conditions for EU stuff anyway, Cameron's already been seeing to that. Though I'll be honest, Obama was being an ass about it so I sort of want to go out just out of spite.

>>6129545
The TTIP's already on it's way out.

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>BRITAIN
>BRIT-IN

the answer is obvious

>>6129634
It'll be back, though, is the thing.

>>6129670
And even if we left it would certainly be back. Our government would gladly introduce something like TTIP, if not worse, even if we left. At least if we're part of the EU we have a larger voice against it.

>Meet cute girl online
>Things to great
>Talking gets intense
>Talk to my roomie about her
>They ask if she knows im trans plus their considerate like that
>Forgot to tell her but I'll tell her eventually
>Her and I are too shy to meet in person
>Fuck it tell her im trans
>texts are fewer, not so many good morning texts
>fuckmylife.jpg
>decide to ask if she's okay with it
>for the most part she is but she's more shocked than anything

She just doesn't know what to do. She never dated a transman. She was my little ray of sunshine in my life. wat do?

>>6131119
break into her house and fingerbang her obviously until she loves you

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>>6131129

>>6131134
or you could stop being a pussy and suck it up and find another girl

Chaser/open-minded here

Where do I find transgays?

>>6131119

give it time, let her speak to you first, talk to other chicks... it'll either work out or it won't, but if it doesn't may as well work on finding other chicks first and maybe telling them you're trans upfront so you don't have to worry about repeating this shit...

>>6131203
>ftmgen perhaps
>me

>>6131309
h-hello

OUT.

Blow up the Dover Tunnel now.

>>6129203
Do what? Make the actual most boring gen ever? Do you have autism?

When they say "You have to live a year in your prefered gender before hormonal therapy", do they mean dressing male or to tell everyone you're trans? I've been dressing male for a long time but I don't feel the need to tell everyone my business. Do I have to do the annoying coming out meme to get my hands on T?

>>6133114

it means you have to steal and wear someone's skin

>>6133114
I didn't have to do this. In fact I didn't even start binding until after I got my letter. I'm Canadian though. Could be different for us.

>>6133114
My therapist was a pain in the ass when it came to me coming out. I was already out to the people I felt were important to me / i felt needed to know (family, close friends, and certain staff members of my college,.)

For whatever reason she used to argue in circles with me about how the way I went about being out, and would push me to tell people that didn't need to know like my lab partners and classmates.

It's like she took me not finding my trans status important to discuss to people I don't care about outside of academics / work as me being ashamed of it, it was annoying as fuck.

>>6133441
What's the point of telling people that see you as male? That'd just muddy the waters if anything. You'd only need to tell those who saw you as female before so they stop calling you 'she' and shit.

>>6133114
My doctor insisted I come out first, so I lied and said that I did.

>>6133441
to be trutrans yo have o obnoxiously bring it up all the time for no reason :^)

>>6133516
Exactly, aside from correcting pronouns if someone calls/called me "she" on first meet I don't go into further detail. There's no point in me laying out my life story to people that are just there to work with me in passing.

>>6133344
Lucky

>>6133441
Sounds excessive. This is what I'm worried about. I'm worried they expect something like >>6133535 to become agreeable. I'm honest with the people who matter. Who cares about the rest.

>>6133519
I like you

>>6133263
I like you even more

>>6133556
It was incredibly excessive, and I live in a rather conservative area - while I'm not worried about anything happening I still have to consider my safety and to an equal extent my academic / work reputation. Telling everyone I meet in my situation isn't exactly something I think is intelligent to do.

>>6133556

i like you even more too...

>>6133114
I don't know where you are, but (assuming UK) I can tell you about what I've heard from the girls at mtfg and my experiences.

Apparently all the clinics, aside from Nottingham, have relaxed the regulations around the whole real life experience thing - but as to what that means in practice I couldn't tell you.

When I did my real life experience (bearing in mind this was about 4 years ago now so if they have made changes it might not necessarily be valid) they expected that I come out to friends and family (which I lied about, and to this day I have only come out to my mother, lol), and that I dressed male, but I'd cut my hair and started doing that even before my first session because I'd read about the RLE on the internet and wanted to get it over with ASAP. But they also wanted 'proof' of my transition. What this meant was documents with my new name that demonstrated that I was fully 'out' - so I got my name changed at university and opened a new bank account with my new name (whilst keeping an old one with my old name) to show them I had 'transitioned'. I knew University would be understanding so it worked out well for me that I was transitioning whilst there, but I still haven't got round to changing my driving license and I only changed my passport last year 2bh, but anyway, the point is, they simply wanted a bit of proof. Now, whether they're still as strict, I don't know, especially from what the girls at mtfg have said, with the exception of Nottingham which is meant to have a different set of rules to the rest of the country and, again, I'm writing this under the assumption you're in the UK? But regardless of where you are, I think a lot of it is down to the leniency of your therapist. Few people here have different stories and it different experiences, and I spoke to my second therapist (you need two recommendations for HRT or surgery) and he seems like a pretty understanding guy.

>>6133556
sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do for the mones

i'm sure all of us went to our first gender psych or endo and whatever our background, made sure our story fit the traditional trans narrative sufficiently to get what you need, even if it just means overstating or understating different parts of your experiences

if you want to stretch the truth to get what you need, that's your decision my friend

>>6133611
(cont.)

I asked him about the rigid need to undergo RLE and he said that to him, it was just important to make sure people were committed to transition and leading healthy lives (which I can understand from some of the girls on the mtfg 2bh), but he wouldn't necessarily force them into following the RLE instructions (i.e. providing evidence of your transition) to the letter before prescribing hormones, so long as he was sure they'd made the effort to start transition and telling people around them, like family and friends, so yeah, I think it will also come down to your therapist and how well you come across.

>>6133535
I didn't see any point in doing it, I was already out before therapy, I was already dressing / presenting as male before then most a good amount of the time.

It was basically "I know you're hesitant because being open to complete strangers could put you or your ability to have a normal life at risk, but do it for my benefit 'cause being trans means your automatically a poster child for trans rights and not doing it means you're ashamed"

>>6133581
I agree. I think you should change therapist. You should be able to show her these things without her challenging your integrity. It's a low blow.

>>6133644
She wasn't all bad she was probably the best I could do in my area, but that and her being a bit invasive about my dating life (or lack there of of one) was too much for me.

I Dropped her the moment I got my letter, probably won't be back until my next round of needing a letter and or needing help with legal document changes.

>>6133639
Who did your therapist expect you to come out to? Surely everyone you listed in your post are the sorts of people you'd tell?

>>6133611
>>6133631
Not in the UK, but thanks for the long reply. It's a bit harder here and I'm worried about saying or doing anything wrong and fuck up. It seems a bit pointless to play pretend for a whole year when I could start on T already. I'm seeing a shrink on Monday and I hope she will be cooperative.

>>6133664
She wanted me to tell all my professors despite how I was in a huge classes where I think I only spoke to them 2-3 times, my lab partners - who already saw me as male from the first interaction (and were not outside of academics no more than acquaintances), other classmates, employees I worked with that weren't my boss, people I met in passing etc..

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My tulpa has gotten serious about transitioning lately. Forcing a new form should take about a month of passive and active forcing, though of course imposing feel will be no easy task.
My question to you /ftmg/ is what personality traits did you gain or lose in order to transition into the other gender? What did you see would not fit your new lifestyle and what needed to
improve in order to pass? My tulpa is agendered so it has never really had definite cis male or cis female character traits so it would be useful to know some core female character traits
and personality traits to force. Thanks!

>>6133682
>Hi my name's anon, fyi, I'm trans

I can't think of anything more annoying.

>>6133807
What the fuck: the post

>>6133807
Skin it and cook it with taters

>>6133818
What's taters, precious?

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>>6133827

>>6133807

that looks like the rabbit my s/o and i used to have, except he was just grey... he was cool as hell, but i've never been more allergic to a pet...

>>6133814
What's so wtf about it? I think i made my inquiry pretty clear.

Shit, clinics in Britain want name change etc. before hormones? I had planned to change my name after starting physical transition. Are the rules laxer for MtFs? I had an MtF friend who never changed her name even after surgery.

>>6134062
>Are the rules laxer for MtFs?

no, but you might have a slightly easier time with private clinics than nhs gics

>>6134070
I have an NHS appointment already, in June. I've only been out/been presenting as male since some time in March, though. Am I doomed?

>>6134088
nah you ain't doomed, plenty of people will come to them not having made certain changes

how come you want to change your name after starting hrt? it's mostly just buying the deed poll, you don't have to go around waving it in everyone's face

>>6134097
My family would lose the plot if they found out I'd changed my name before "becoming male". They've said they refuse to start calling me male before I do anything. That's why I'm leaving it off.

>>6134113
well, you don't need their permission for a deed poll, i can tell you that much

your family sounds p crazy anon how old are you and how soon can you get out of that mess?

by the way this is pretty good resource for transmen in the uk http://ukftm.tumblr.com/ they can answer loads of questions about the boring intricate details of transitioning as a britbong

feel free to carry on asking about stuff here tho you never know who might have the deets

>>6134136
Thanks for the link. I'm planning to move out within the next month. I've filled in my deed poll form and will post it off as soon as I have the money.

Is the Skype group still going?

>mom decides to remind me how feminine and girly i was as a baby

>>6134766
>family call my male haircut "feminine"

>>6134589
I think you'll be fine if your appointment isn't until June. Besides, many people haven't even changed their name yet at their first session,don't worry about it. Even if you can't move out, just change it anyway and don't tell your family. And, sorry to imply, but from what you've written it seems kinda dumb that they're not going to support you until you've 'started' - sounds to me like they're just putting off accepting what's going on.

>>6134779
To be honest, I don't think they're ever going to accept what's going on. They're very conservative.

>>6134838
Which is exactly why you ought to just try and get on with it while you can. My mum wasn't cool with it either; when I told her she said so long as you just dress like a boy. So I ended up just taking HRT without telling her -obviously she guessed, but I've since had surgery and I'm not entirely sure if she knows about that or not. But yeah, either way, just try and get around it without them. Do you have any friends who know?

>>6134851
>friends
I have none at the moment.
>HRT without them knowing
I'd get caught.

>>6134911
One step at a time, you won't be on HRT for another year yet -at least. And even then, you'dhave like 6 months of being able to hide the effects. You think you could move out during this time?

So my local support group (yes I know) is typically at least 3/4 ftm if not all mtf except me.

The thing is though, most of them also consider themselves non-binary. And only two of them (of say, 6) are actively pursuing T; all of the regulars are pre-hrt.

I've been going for two months now anyway but last week may have been my tipping point:

A tangent started in the discussion among them and it seems the general consensus is, for the ones who don't already have a biological child, most of them still want to give birth to one. And they are either waiting on medical transitioning until that time or plan on going to off hormones at some point later in order to do so. This conversation lasted like 10 good minutes if not longer. Talking about having kids, about waiting for them, etc.

I didn't think it bothered me as much as it did but I was so irritable on the drive home I had to apologize later to the new friend I made who needed a ride to and from the group.

It made me sick with myself that they were all so comfortable with themselves and their biology and were so happy to be able to give birth. It made me feel like shit and also made me question the legitimacy of every single one of them. There's a non-binary support group and this is specifically a trans support group yet here they are. I've encountered a lot of transwomen who showed up for only one session and never saw them again. I feel like maybe all the afab nb ze/zims are scaring them off.

So my question is: do any of you want to give birth? How many of you identify as non-binary?

>>6134991
I'm curious about this question as well.

How do you guys feel about ftms who claim to be ftm and male but refuses to take T and only does the tomboy aesthetic?

>>6134991
I messed up the first line, I meant to say " is typically at least 3/4 ftm if not all ftm except me." There are many sessions where I'm literally the only mtf there.

>>6134991
I never want children, and I - sorry to open a can of worms - am not sure I believe in non-binary.

>>6134991
The 4chan trans demographic are typically not fans of the "non-binary" bullshit. I honestly don't believe any of them are actually trans. And no I'd never have a fucking kid, let alone put off transition for it. I get depressed when my test is low, I can feel it about three days before my shot is due. No fucking way would I ever quit for any reason.

>>6134991
>do any of you want to give birth?
Literally my worst nightmare

>Identify as non-binary?
No

They sound like special snow flake syndromes to me, anon.

>>6135069
I want to add to this that I think them stepping outside of the prescribed gender roles is great, I'm all for that, but they don't need to call themselves trans to do that and are really co-opting our struggles and alienating people who actually need support.

>>6135052
I'm also not sure I believe in non-binary either.
At first I accepted it's a thing after meeting them because I felt like maybe this was their way of accepting their biology? Like "I know I'm a woman, but I want to be a man. I can't ever be 100% man with xy with biology like my favorite porn stars so I'll just do this" since I went through an acceptance where I accepted I was male but still hated my body. I never thought of being nb though. Maybe because a female acting like a man is seen as a butch and a male acting like a woman is a faggot and I'd rather not be murdered by the rednecks.

>>6134991

never... that shit's like alien, i just look at it like i'm sterile and can't have bio kids... which is fine with me

i don't care what other people do or judge them for it

pregnant transguys used to really bother me, but i mean... it is the easiest option if someone wants kids, and well... i know some people want families and that's important to them so i get that... i just can't even imagine how a transguy could do it and not wanna kill themselves personally, but everyone's different... i try not to put my own shit on people

>>6135008

idk i can get not wanting the possible medical issues and whatnot... the only thing i really don't get is not wanting top surgery... and i really don't understand not wanting either, like... i can't see how anyone could want to live without easing dysphoria at all in any way their entire life...

>>6134991
before i went on t i did give some consideration to, at some point, possibly stopping hormones so i could have a kid of my own. after a while though it became obvious that would be awful-not just the social repercussions, just an instinct that the whole process would be physically and mentally deeply unpleasant and not worth it compared to adoption

as for other ftms pursuing pregnancy, or non-binary people, shrug. it's their life to live, not mine, so i don't care

>>6135153
>>6135125
>>6135079
>>6135069
>>6135052
>>6135025
>>6135008
>>6135153
Thank you for your replies, gentlemen. I appreciate your general "not for me, but for others whatever" feelings.

>>6135052

i believe people about who they are... they know themselves better than i ever will, and i kinda see it like... as a transguy, i've seen plenty of people say they don't "believe in transpeople" and i know that's bullshit for sure, so who am i to judge? not understanding something isn't the same as it not existing at all...

>>6135008
I know a guy who passes without T, so he doesn't want to take T. It makes sense to me that if he doesn't need to take T then he mite not want to. He's also very health conscious (won't even drink alcohol) so I think that's part of it. He dose want top surgery though.

I don't really care if someone takes or doesn't take T, as long as it doesn't effect me.

The only other ftm i know of in my area is this guy (i'm very reluctant to call him by male pronouns) who doesn't take T and is basically your typical transtrender. Because he hasn't transitioned at all he attracts straight guys and has sex all the time with straight dudes at the bars. Even had a pregnancy scare once.

Meanwhile, here I am, also a gay ftm, hairy as fuck, taking T, and I can't get a single hookup off of grindr.

What kind of hair cut is best to get? I have short hair, but I'm afraid it mite look like a pixi cut.

Pre T

>>6134991
>This conversation lasted like 10 good minutes if not longer. Talking about having kids, about waiting for them, etc.

lol I have an iron stomach and a pretty strong constitution, but you could probably straight assassinate me with pregnancy talk. After 5 minutes I would have to excuse myself or fucking hurl.

My support group is about 4/5 trans guys, 4/5 also counting two afab non-binary people, one on T, the other waiting for it. Out of everyone, regarding pregnancy, only the nb person on T was like, "Maybe, depends on what my partner wants". Every other time it's come up, everyone else keeps boisterously trashing pregnancy, while I try not to lose my lunch thinking about kicking womb parasites.

But still, to each their own. I am vaguely acquainted with a trans guy who has a biological child and I have a lot of respect for him and do not doubt his identity.

>>6135316
Close on the sides, longer on top. Don't let your hairdresser fem you even if they whine.

What a good haircut looks like depend on your face, though.

>>6134991
Never wanna give birth, and I'm gonna be honest I question the gender identity of those who do wanna give birth. That right there is the literal most feminine thing you can do, moreso than wear dresses/skirts/makeup.

I never want to give birth it is my worst nightmare, but luckily even before I got on T I never would have a pregnancy scare (unless my life is some sort of soap opera in which infertility can come and go as pleases)

>>6135316

depends on what you look like... and what you want, it's hard to tell someone that without an idea of just how short they want it or what they look like...

different haircuts suit different people... and hair texture and shit can make a huge difference too

i prefer keeping my hair long cuz short i have all these cowlicks that stick straight up and it's fucking annoying

>>6135506

+ like you might be at a point where letting it grow out before you cut it would be best, or you might have enough length to fix it up a bit... usually way too short like buzzcuts and shit don't work out well for transguys

>>6135286

eh i'm pre-everything, not by choice but is what it is, and i've still had gay guys who were interested... it's not like being pre-everything means someone will only get straight guys, at all...

i don't tend to anyway...

but if he just wants to get laid i don't see why it matters given his current circumstance... he could also be one of those people who's afraid they won't get anyone if they do transition and just fucks straight guys cuz he's lonely... that shit happens

>>6135506
>>6135373
>>6135516


Thank you for the advise, it helps. I would post a picture of myself, but anonymity.

>>6135373
I thankfully have found an understanding hairdresser.

>>6135570

well i guess if you don't wanna post a pic you could figure out your face shape and take shit from there though eh... posting a pic once doesn't mean you can't just disappear back into anonymity after... not like any of us know who you are or are gonna be able to keep track

though i guess some people are pretty fucking good at that

but yeah... face shape

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i wonder how many people listen to fortune cookies + it's vaguely sad that i can't eat them...

>>6135839
It's pretty dumb but there's been times in my life where I've kept the fortune I've gotten in my wallet for weeks.

Sometimes its nice to just believe that a magical slightly bland cookie can change your future.

>>6135864

i've kept funny ones, like i had one that said some shit like "disregard all other forms of fortune only listen to cookie" which was probably my favourite... i might actually still have it somewhere

>>6136033

i didn't even catch that... thought they were a transguy

>>6135839
I eat my fortunes. It's something I've done since I was a kid, and my siblings caught on and now its still a thing between the four of us.

>>6136460

Y-You eat the fortunes? As in the paper??

this is the worst ftmgen edition

>getting haircut
>"so are you a new student at [highschool across the street]?"
I'm... I'm almost thirty.
Legitimately confused on how to feel about this. For fuck's sake, I'm even starting to get a few stray gray hairs.
I KNOW IT'S BECAUSE I'M IN PUBERTY 2.0, BUT DAMN.

>>6136700
Yeah. It's just a tiny piece of paper.

I ate a shit ton of paper when I was a kid.

>>6136725
Passing as a young teen boy is the fate of many trans guys. At least you aren't stuck in the butch zone...

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>>6136725
similar thing happened to me, 'cept i'm 19 so its not that bad

>be at the dmv
>I'm here to get an id
>is your mom in the car?
>im 19..
>oh! wow! you look so much younger
>give her my paperwork and birth certificate
>she gives me look in pic relly
>right over to window 2
>...
>megan..

>>6136903
Every bar bouncer in this city gives me that look. I feel you.
>>6136785
TRUTH, FUCK.

>>6135052
i have a few afab nb friends and honestly from the discussions i've had with them about dysphoria it seems like they're trans men who just hate men so much that they can't accept being one and/or are scared of becoming one socially.

it's really sad. i believe that nb "exists" and i think everyone should be able to define what their gender is and what it means for them but idk, i just feel bad for people that are obviously just confused and struggling with shitty sexism/misandry bullshit

>>6133807
>dose eyes

Damn, son, that is one thirsty rabbit.

>>6133441
At least they didn't try to solicit sex for 1k after you mentioned being desperate enough for cash to just cam. I was looking for reassurance that no one was judging me and that I was truly in control of myself and he offers me money for a blowjob.

I don't trust councilors anymore. I record all my sessions now.

>>6134991
I had a pregnancy scare a while back after I found out that my (now my ex) boyfriend was jerking himself off while shoving his fingers down my pants whenever I fell asleep over at his place.

I kept remembering how my sex ed teacher kept stressing the fact that there is no such thing as "pulling out" and how there is sperm in precum and you can even get a girl pregnant by kissing her after she blew you then going down on her.

I figured he must have jizzed on his fingers while jerking himself off then shoved them back into my hell hole.

I had all of the symptoms, my breasts grew huge, my nipples were sore all the fucking time. I had the most bizarre food cravings.

Right when I was working up the courage to tell my mom and ask her help for an abortion I started bleeding, it was the most painful and yet the most joyous experience of my life. It felt like a lead weight wrapped in barbed wire was slowly shredding it's way through my abdomen.

I have never. EVER. been so grateful that my body is hormonally fucked out the ass as when all the pregnancy symptoms went away.

To this day I don't know if I was simply so stressed out over the break up that my PCOS finally met it's match and got ass whooped into giving me a period for the first time in my life. Or if I was legitimately knocked up by a sleazy perv and my body murdered the unborn baby.

But either way I am soooo fucking happy I never gave birth. I know it's horrible to be glad that my potential flesh and blood child died while inside of me. But lets face it, I am the last person on the face of the planet who should be a parent. If it was a real baby, it's better off. I consider it my body performing a mercy killing.

And that is A OK by me.

Would anybody be interested in an /ftmgen/ TC or IRC?

>>6136785
i'd rather be seen as a teen boy than be butchzoned ;_;

>>6137184
I'm the same. Forever young.

>>6137154
wat

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>>6135751
Thanks anon, I am trying to use this (http://www.fashionbeans.com/2016/how-to-choose-right-haircut-for-face-shape/) to figure out my facial shape, but I'm having trouble. I was thinking oval, heart, or squareish? Not sure, tried tracing my face to make it clearer, but it hasn't helped me. Mite just ask my friends irl what facial shape they think I have.

.yeah, I wasn't as paranoid about that kinda stuff before. But I had an account I just posted writing on (didn't have my real name, my friends relative identified me cause I talked to my friend on there), and bad repercussions occurred.

>>6137179
I don't think there are enough people around consistently for that 2bh

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>>6136460

that's funny as hell, i've never seen anyone do that...


>>6136710

does it really make much of a difference? it's not like there's a topic anyway...

>>6136725

i still have trouble buying cigarettes, to the point where sometimes people are bitchy as fuck even after they get id...

>>6138026

i'm pretty sure you can use measurements to determine it better... like if your chin is significantly narrower than your forehead it's heart shape and so on... if it's oval though you could do pretty much anything and it'll look fine... i know a lot of square tips tend to be about feminizing someone's face which you don't want anyway... i know a lot of hairdressers

that sounds annoying as fuck, makes sense though that you don't want to post it if you can't even post writing without people being assholes...

why were there repurcussions over writing anyway though?

unrelated: gypsy taking a bath...

>>6136903
I feel this, I had to argue with the front security at the airport about my ID photo a few times, that look is universal.

>can't buy alcohol or cigarettes without being hassled
>can't rent R rated movies without getting side eyes and double checks for my ID

I'm 21
when does it end familia?

>>6138183
I was wondering how many other people on here smoke, it's shitty to be given that "oookay kid, if you say so" look from cashiers or them just not believing you when they look at your ID.
and that being an every other day occurrence. Really brings ya down man.

>>6138571

i'm used to it, but it can be annoying cuz i've gotten some oddly shitty attitudes over it that really don't make fucking sense... like this one bitch in a gas station around here has literally tried to argue with me, and then given me a hard time accepting my id... on multiple occasions too, and she's a cunt about it too... she does the bitch voice fake laugh shit... i did tell her she was a cunt before though, so eh we're even i guess

i usually just have my s/o buy them cuz it's easier than dealing with any possible bullshit

really though i should quit again, i did for a year at one point... which was the longest i've quit for (usually it's more like 3-6 months) i just hate that first 3 days so much

>>6138622
Yeah same, I never had much trouble with the physical portions of quitting, but the psychological part since it's my crutch for stress is the hurdle I struggle (and never quite) get over.

I've had that happen when it comes to alcohol a couple times, i don't even care about being bitched out or getting looks when it comes to things like that. It's the cashier taking too much time with things like that and holding up the line / wasting my and everyone elses time.

>>6138644

yeah that's what it is for me too, i get stressed and i end up chainsmoking... or like, it's convenient when i'm stuck in an uncomfortable situation to be able to just go smoke... the physical shit is annoying, but after the first 3 days i'm good other than not knowing what to do with myself

can't do that with alcohol, but i do occasionally if i'm out of weed... cuz alcohol can really fuck with the lyme, so drinking can be a shit experience, sometimes i'm good and then other times it's a fucking nightmare

on the bright side i prefer weed and pills to alcohol and always have so it's not the worst that i can't really drink

the customers don't bother me, it's just annoying to deal with... liquor store clerks are usually nicer even if they're a bit skeptical at first for some reason

>>6138658
+ i think the funniest shit has been at the dentist though... i had one who didn't want to pull my tooth without speaking to my parents first, and another who asked if my s/o was my older sibling/guardian...

>>6138658

Yup, smoking is more or less an escape out of an uncomfortable situation / a break from work and or a nervous tic for me.

I always have more fun making drinks then actually drinking them when it came to alcohol, it's alright but there's a 50/50 chance I'll end up pretty ill with it.
Honestly if I had a steady stream of pot and sedatives I'd never drink or smoke again, but I haven't had a consistent dealer since I was in highschool, which really sucks.

>>6138682

my favourite dealer here is in jail right now, but i have a couple who make deliveries and shit... and like i've gone fishing with one of the guys i buy weed from... and it was the same in brooklyn, just more options

but the thing with weed is of you're not in the best place it's not a convenient excuse to get out of an uncomfortable situation

i like making drinks, but i don't like drinking mixed drinks, so i'll do it for other people but if i'm drinking i just take shots... or like mix alcohol with more alcohol

>>6138705
I'm pretty simple with what I actually like drinking, pretty much stick to rum and coke, or just rum; though making cocktails is more or a less a hobby for me. (Thought about going and doing bartending for extra money, but those gigs are far and few between around here)

Yeah true, it's also one of those things I'd have to work around my schedule with, unlike with smoking when I can do it whenever I feel like it more or less.
Just a bummer I can't smoke a bowl after I finish a paper or after a long shift ends and just shut my brain off for awhile.

>>6138734

rum is one of those things i'll drink if my choices are that or vodka... i prefer whiskey (by itself or with amaretto), but that usually fucks with me pretty bad now... so when i drink it's shots of jager or just wine, jager has never made me feel sick and wine is an alright choice 85% of the time

can't drink soda though, it bothers the fuck out of my stomach and has for years, even pre-lyme cuz i've had stomach issues since i was a kid (lyme just made them worse) like regular soda fucks me up pretty bad, and diet soda fucking kills me... artificial sweeteners give me these weird fucking stomach cramps that hurt like a bitch and i can feel them in my back and shit too

there's some local liquor here i wanna try with some pretty interesting ingredients like ginger and whatnot that sounds like it might be an alright time

bartending seems like it'd be alright, but usually you gotta know people or start off doing shit like washing dishes and hope someone wants to train you... my s/o's bro has actually been learning it, he started off as a dishwasher in this place and he's been there for years so they've been training him recently

i don't really have anything to worry about, so i can smoke all day... though even when i did work i used to just show up high, though the one time i did that with vicodin i sorta regretted it, kept getting paranoid thinking it was probably obvious... same with dusted weed, though i was a barista so it's not really like that required much thought

OUTOUTOUTOUT

>>6134991
Sounds exactly like my experience with any trans support group ever. I went to a trans-exclusive group twice in my life.

Both times there were barely ten people even there, only one mtf and she was an autist hon, one pre-T drama queen ftm, and about five afab non-binary special snowflakes who were obviously there to moan about how difficult being "trans*******" is even though they present as female every day of their lives and don't actually experience dysphoria. I felt like I was in a circus.

My take on ftm pregnancy? It scars the image of trans people and throws us back into that "biological aberration" box because to cis people, a pregnant man is something weird. Not to mention that it's even hard for ME, an ftm, to understand why you'd go through all the pain of transitioning only to stop, flood yourself with female hormones and have an actual child grow inside your womb if you identify as a man.

I'm a really traditional guy and would love to be able to have my own children. Sadly, it's essentially impossible. I'd have to get married to a woman willing to surrogate-carry my child before my hysto and that's not looking likely. Not to mention I probably wouldn't feel like going off T just for the sake of harvesting an egg.

>>6138927
If you adopt they will be your children too. I never understood why people need the biological connection when the social one is so much more important. The downside to adoption is that it takes ages and can be expensive, while knocking a girl up would be easy as a cis man.

>>6138844
I could never drink wine, same with most beers, I drink one and I end up sick from it, my stomach just does not like either for some reason.

That does sound pretty good, always like buying the the weirdest flavored liquors and seeing what I can do with em, though they usually are the more expensive variety so it's rare I get to.

Yeah that tends to be the case, I'd end up wiping down tables at a club for a few years before anyone gave me a shot, but if it was available I'd probably take it anyhow - even though I probably wouldn't be living here long enough for me to actually get that position.

That's what I kind of get paranoid about, not so much when it comes to work since there was someone who worked with me who had a pretty bad heroin problem and would show up to work high all the time, so I knew if he was flying under the raydar I'd be fine. It's more me working around my class schedule so I can show up sober for lectures, but since class is ending soon I'm not quite sure what to do with that free time.

>>6131203
are you male/female?

>>6134991
I massively do not want to give birth but i still get pangs of parental longing now and then, like some kind of biological dropkick to the gut.
So I got cats.
Fuck you, biology, accept my clawed and fuzzy baby substitutes that won't ruin my life or body.

I mean on the one hand I won't deny that human pregnancies are kind of amazing feats of bioengineering, like how cool is it to be able to build a tiny human? That shit's neat.
It's also fucking terrifying and one of the most complicated and parasitic pregnancies in the animal kingdom and dangerous as fuck. Massive respect to anyone willing to do that, because it certainly is not gonna be me. Don't even get me started on the pants-on-head idiotic laws that can make pregnancy a fucking minefield.

On the NB thing I feel weird denying someone an identity that makes them happy, because on a certain level it feels hypocritical of me. But it also makes me a little uncomfortable too, precisely because it so often is an excuse to be 'trans' without going through a lot of the hassle.

Sometimes I think for AFAB people it's just dudes who start to miss some of the fun parts of being a girl. I know one guy who wears a lot of makeup.

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Are lesbians into the gender bender/body swap/possession fetish?
Contact me on Telegram @mollymawk if you are. I'd love to connect with women who are into the same thing.

>>6140351
stop posting this on ftm general dumbass

>>6138894
>tfw no swg bf
w-why even live ;-;

>>6129190

FtMs, how many of you hid your periods from your mothers for years? Are there any other common experiences between you?

>>6139106
Gay desu

>>6140351
>lesbians
>women
>posting in ftmgen
report and hide fellas

>>6140377
I did - only managed to for a couple months, though.

>>6140377
Hid it for about a year when I was 12-13.
Forgot to wash the nip flag off my sheets one day and that was it.

>>6140377
I probably would have if not for the brown phase scaring the life out of me.

>>6134991
>>6138927
>five afab non-binary special snowflakes who were obviously there to moan about how difficult being "trans*******" is even though they present as female every day of their lives and don't actually experience dysphoria.
Is there really any other kind of non-binary?

I go to a support group and I like most of the people, it's just ridiculous and cringy because all of the younger kids there now identify of course as nonbinary and now they announce every meeting what different set of pronouns each of them go by because they all "feel" a different genderwise every day... It takes all of my effort not to walk out of the room every fucking meeting.

DESU I hate going so much but a few of my friends go, and they're great. Also one of them now identifies as non-binary, afab with they pronouns and a new stylish name, sans dysphoria suprise suprise, and it sucks because I have to hear her complain about all the terrible discrimination she experiences from other people trying to "come out" as nonbinary. It just really pisses me off when she's complaining about people not using her pronouns and it's like, why even bother, whatever she dresses in she always has her boobs hanging out in revealing shirts, big fucking suprise when people forget and they use female pronouns. Also I know this is bad but I secretly hate her because whenever I'm out with her she looks super lesbian and it sets people's gaydar off and then they always ma'am me. Basically I get butchzoned or whatever even though I pass as male whenever I'm solo or with more "normal" looking girls, I hate it so fucking much.

>>6141361
maybe not hang out with them if you got so much aggro

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>>6131203
Craigslist senpai or OkCupid.

Trans dudes er'erywhere on the Cupid - you just have to wade through the Tumblr 'demiboys' with the teal-dyed undercuts.

Also, be prepared to get fucked in the ass sometimes. I like dating cis chasers but only if they also let me fuck them too.

>>6131203
>Trans male chaser
You're like a unicorn

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>>6133811
There is this trans dude that frequents the bus stop that I wait at while going to work and he tells almost everyone he speaks to that he's trans. It's rather weird. Like he strikes up conversations with complete strangers and then finds a way to announce it in conversation.

I've always been friendly towards him but now he's starting to bee-line to me everytime he sees me at the bus stop.

The other day he struck up a long conversation with me about trans politics. Now, I'm a stealth and passing trans dude and it was really fucking awkward because I didn't want to out myself by going "Dude, I fucking know, shut up about it" but he was going on and fucking ON about it.

I just want to listen to my headphones and wait for the bus in peace.

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>>6141924
T-man chasers are everywhere but they strangely are usually furry.

I am not sure WHY that is but it is.

>>6141961
It's an evangelist! The gay agenda has come so far.

>>6141973
Yeah sorta

Either way I feel liek I am trapped by this awkward dude. I might go maximum autist and walk another few blocks to the next bus stop to avoid him.

half of the time he doesn't even get on the bus so I am not sure what he is even doing there

>>6140553
>>6140617

So you would have kept going on hiding it indefinitely if you could have?

>>6140887

You didn't get sex ed or anything before then?

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>>6141361

Every support group I have gone to has had this exact issue - few trans dudes or trans ladies - it's mostly just ''genderfluid'' AFAB people who live with their mother's and have a messenger bag bedazzled with every Undertale or Homestuck pin known to man.

They are hypersensitive and get really pissy when anyone mentions bottom surgery. I hate them with every fibre of my being.

When they grow out of their phase, I'll still be trans and still wishing that I had an actual IRL support group.

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>>6129190
It'd be neat if you degenerates would stop appropriating my gender thanks. Bunch of walking stereotypes who think they're somehow more manlier than REAL men

>>6141966
At least I am a furry too, but such a small minority of furries aren't annoying or weird as hell I'm not sure I'd be willing to risk it

Also I feel like chasers would really be into furry porn and I hate furry porn

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>>6142044
hunty please

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>>6142044

>excited for top surgery
>testosterone is reawakening horrific shoulder acne that I experienced in my teenage years
>I'll finally get to be shirtless in public but I am disgusted by my skin condition so once again I'll have no body confidence at all

I have literally seven huge welts on my shoulder and I'm a tiny guy. They look like hives but nope acne. I'm drinking lots of water daily and showering and my binder doesn't cover that area so what gives. I'm so mad!

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>>6142044
>muh REAL men

ill give ur mum a good succ

>>6141961
I would never hang with an ftm or mtf that brought it up in conversation more than twice a year, and especially in public.
Most people tend to forget you're trans unless you bring it up.

>>6142274
I feel you. I scrub my back and shoulders and wear a clean binder, but no use. In getting too surgery next year.

I wore a surgeon mask a couple days ago because of a huge pimple on my chin. I mean like a bad scabby one. I'm getting more of a beard every day so I keep getting ingrown hair pimples.

>>6142390
Yeah, this is a huge concern for me. I don't even want to tell the dude I'm also trans because he seems kind of like he would just blab about it non-stop and out me.

I have two other trans male friends and when we all hang, none of us really talk about it in public because we have tact and respect for each other.

If someone wants to be out and proud, cool I guess but I haven't met a single person like that who isn't also a complete autist that outs their stealth friends in really public situations (bars, conventions, etc).

>>6141997
>You didn't get sex ed or anything before then?
I'm pretty sure I did, but not the specifics of puberty. Though I never got The Talk as a kid, I just worked it out from TV so maybe I was working off shitty information.

>>6142274
>>6142390
I don't know if your surgeons will be as picky as mine, but when I went for top surgery he told me I ought to try and sort out my acne before we went ahead. I'd gotten shoulder acne, which went down my arms and back, but with none on my chest, but he'd still told me to sort it out. Basically, if acne crops up in or around the scar it can make it even worse, so his concern was for the post-op aesthetics. Now, I don't know if your surgeon will be as cautious as mine, but to avoid wasting a lot of time like I had to (nearly a whole year), I think it'd be worth it if you try and find out as soon as you can if your acne's going to be an issue. I doubt your surgeon will be as cautious as mine, but yeah, I guess it's worth finding out about.

Just haphazardly trimmed my own hair with bad mirror coordination, don't know how people manage this but fuck going to get it cut already. Anyone here cut their own hair or is it a delicate science to be left to the pros?

>>6143690
Ive cut my own hair since I was 12, as of now I think I can do about as good of a job as what I'd pay someone for. It's cheaper and saves me the trouble of not having someone up in my personal space like that.

In what ways do you think man x man love is more pure than woman x woman love?

>>6143690
Cutting your own hair is a bad meme, it will always look terrrible. Inb4 someone responds to this saying "I've cut my own hair for 15 years and it always looks okay." It will NEVER look as good as someone else cutting it, EVER. Literally go to any cheap barber and get a haircut that's 100x better than doing it yourself for about 15 dollars.

Looking like shit is not worth it, trust me.

Yeah haircuts aren't expensive unless you're a girl.

>>6141361
Ftmg lads - please answer me honestly - have any of you been at a trans support or social group which you were satisfied with?

The one I visited was organized by my university, so I'm not too surprised by the fact that all I found there were afab non-binary attention whores doing what they like to do best.

Meanwhile, what should be happening imo is group meetings for transmen and transwomen ONLY if it were to be a "support group". There should be some kind of screening process. The minimum requirement should be experiencing dysphoria, cause whoever doesn't shouldn't be crowding up trans spaces in the first place.

In a perfect world I imagine a group that's aimed at transguys specifically, where you meet up every week or two, go indoor climbing or to the gym for an hour and then have a beer and talk a little. Meet some dudes who are going through the same shit as you, and that's it. I think it would be a great opportunity for pre-T dudes and guys early into their transitions to learn how to socialize with other men.

>>6143815
>cheap barber
>15 dollars
Where I live a cheap to ok barber is 30-40 dollars. Bowlcut it is.

Or would be, but I'm milking my friendship with a hairdresser for all it's worth. (I do pay him.)

>>6143775
I want to unsubscribe from all replies to this post.

>>6143946
I've never been to anything like that, outside of here I'm not really into talking about being trans, it's just irritating to me. If I were to meet someone else who was I'd rather it occur naturally on something other than us both having that in common.

But if there was something like what you're saying out there, I might be willing to give it a shot. I wouldn't turn down something promising alcohol and rock climbing.

>>6143946
>A screening process
Nigga that's fucking dumb, all you have to do is turn the "trans support group" into a binary-only, i.e. only ftm's and mtf's only, you can include questioning peeps too, and that eliminates 95% of the problem without getting too crazy.

NB is the bane of all real trans people

>>6143986
In the socialist shithole I unfortunately live in, having a trans group that is binary-only would result in a non-binary shitstorm that would probably end with the group being shut down.

University cities in the UK are so fucked. And cucked.

>>6144012
top kek.

>>6143946
It was cool when I first went, just because I didn't realize that so many trans people fucking -EXISTED- here and made their lives work, but I haven't gone back much, just because of a tendency to drama. (And yeah, it is partly the NB people stirring shit.)
It's kinda weird though, it has drag queens and cross dressers too and I dunno how I feel about that shit.
Fuck yeah for a beer meet up though, that would be awesome.

>>6144012
>living in England

sucks to be you

>>6144311
are you American, per chance?
eitherway, uk =/= england

>>6144340
Yes I am and doesn't matter because almost all of Europe is shit. I'm enjoying watching you all burn.

>>6144355
you jelly about all the free nebido and surgery we get?

>>6144374
m8 I'm bipolar so I get free health care. You all are burning so it doesn't matter how much free shit you get because you all will fall within the next few decades. Also you arr rook same to us.

>>6144380
kantig.

>>6144390
mate I don't read your Euro-ching chong language. Say it in Murrican.

>>6143740
>>6143815
Ooh, mixed reviews.

>>6143831
I don't pass so it costs me like £25. And the last cut I got was kind of shoddy anyway.

>>6144397
Look, maybe we got off on the wrong foot. Let's start again, shall we?
Are you a sub or a dom?

>>6144451
Well I'd take my opinion with a grain of salt, my grandad cut hair for a living, and taught me the basics of what to do. for most people it's just gonna be easier to get someone else to do it for you, especially if it's a particular style of haircut vastly different than the one you currently have.

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>>6144507
I'm nothing to a Europoor mate especially of the British variety.

>>6144536
When did I say I was British? Or even European for that matter. I just like the facts to be in order, is all.

>>6144557
You said you're from the UK which means you're European which means you're the starter of two world wars and probably the third. Also massive homophobes just look at the NUS. Because of you fucks I'll never date a white guy ever again.

>>6144575
post tits then

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> Seeing but not dating childhood best friend for the past two months
> Tells me last week she wants to spend her life with me
> I'm obviously putting more into the relationship than she is
> Last night she breaks up with me because she sees me as a woman and she was lying to herself before about being able to overlook that
> No hope of salvaging relationship
> "I-I'm okay with this, n-not like I was really in love with you or anything"

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>>6144355
>>6144380
>I'm enjoying watching you all burn.

>>6144663
>Tells me last week she wants to spend her life with me
>Last night she breaks up with me because she sees me as a woman and she was lying to herself before about being able to overlook that
Women are crazy. Sorry, m8.
Process that shit in the gym and move on with your life. Hopefully the next one is more stable.

>>6144663
>me as a woman and she was lying to herself before about being able to overlook that
you mean she is a lesbian, or she can't get past the fact you're ftm but she still sees you as a woman rather than a man?

>>6144674
Thanks, brother. Last night I couldn't sleep so I went for a jog in the dark. This is just another reason to push me to better myself. We're gonna make it.

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>>6144311
>>6144355
Whatever you say, fatass

>>6144681
The second one. She says she's into girls too, but not as much as guys, and doesn't want a life without a penis. Not her words verbatim, but that's what she meant.

>>6144700
How far along are you?
I mean with time she might come round to accept you more 'as a man' - if she genuinely loves you. I had a similar sort of issue...I fell in love with a girl many years ago, but it was never reciprocated beyond friendship because she wasn't gay. Now that I'm transitioned, and hot, she actually admitted to me the other day that she really liked me as I am now. If you're willing to play the long game, could work.

That being said, the sensible thing for me to say is that people like her and probably like your friend are probably best left to be let go rather than putting effort into a relationship that has a very dubious foundation, but hey, why let go when you can have an emotional rollercoaster ride. So, either way, good luck!

>>6144726
Pre-everything, so I can understand why she'd say that since she'd see my body on an almost daily basis when I'd go spend nights at her house. Still, I work out and eat clean, I look pretty masculine - at worst, I look like a 16-year-old boy with weird pecs.

What bothers me is that she was acting all along like she was alright with this, with me not looking like a grown-ass man, and would even tell me all the time how attractive I am. The way things were going this past week, it really feels like she was just stringing me along, and somehow I just knew that it was going to be over soon.

I'm not giving her a second chance. What I'm looking forward to right now is becoming a super hot guy and making her see what she missed out on.

>>6144672
>>6144698
>Defending a group of people who allowed their children to be raped by foreign men because they didn't want to look WAAAAYCIST

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

white people desu baka senpai

>>6144749
That's the spirit!

idk, these things can be complicated. I think the thing you ought to take away from this break up is the fact that she finally did come clean - it could have dragged on and gotten a lot more toxic, and just be happy that it ended when it did. Don't dwell on it, and make her jealous, anon.

>>6144726
>Now that I'm transitioned, and hot, she actually admitted to me the other day that she really liked me as I am now.
Wow what a suprise. This is the one of the reasons I workout and gives me extra strength when I'm exercising, so that I can imagine shitting on all the gay whores who told me they would never think about dating me because I'm not a real man and proceed to have sex with just about every other thing that moves that has a dick.

>>6144663
I would never talk to her again, don't ruin your life or your self respect because you think she's worth it- because she's not. She will try and come back to you crying like >>6144726 after you get hot and probably ripped from t,
DO NOT FALL FOR IT. It is never worth it, if she leaves you for a "real man" then she doesn't deserve a second chance.

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>>6144754
>"Defending a group of people"
>"""group of people"""
wewlad I never knew the UK was in fact a collection of people who were progressive libtards from a notoriously shitty council in a notoriously shitty town...

>tfw this is actually what Americunts actually believe

>>6140377
It took me a couple months to work up the courage to say anything. The only reason I did at all was the prospect of buying tampons or whatever myself was infinitely more humiliating.

>>6144804
>Wow what a suprise.
You're telling me. I mean it was something I'd always dreamed about and then when it happened I was struck so dumb I just didn't have a reply.

But yeah, if you work hard and stick to the HRT you can easy make it and they'll regret it. We're all going to make it.

>>6144771
My thoughts exactly. Thanks, brother.

>>6144804
>I would never talk to her again, don't ruin your life or your self respect because you think she's worth it- because she's not.
I think making her jealous sounds like too tasty a deal to pass up. I'll probably end up dropping her out of my life if she comes crawling back, but for now, I'm going to ignore her and keep lifting

>>6143775
It's not, but both are more pure than disgusting hetero love

>>6143831
Haircuts aren't expensive if you go to a shit hairstylist

>>6144987
At least we can agree on something...

>>6143946
I kinda feel like it would help to separate the terms "nonbinary" and "Trans"

I dated an agender person with physical dysphoria, and they binded, and wanted to go on hormones and get surgery. I definitely think there's nonbinary people who have dysphoria, but they get a bad wrap from all the non dysphoric nonbinary people who are too selfish to not shove themselves into the transgender community

If being nonbinary and trans was a thing, all those annoying non dysphoric nonbinary people could have their cake and eat it too, and actual trans people wouldn't have to deal with their bullshit anymore

>>6143775
fxf is purest love
mxm is pure too though
mxf nah

>>6145482
>fxf is purest love
I fail to see how two unreasonable irresponsible cunts together makes pure love

>mxm purest love

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>>6145482
>>6145500
Let people love each other in peace, guys. Who cares.

>>6145041
I agree with this one. I feel as though non-dysphoric nonbinaries don't really belong in the community.

>>6143815
i cut my own hair and it looks great :^)

hairdressers are crazy women who went to vocational school because they couldn't make it at college, they aren't professionals

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>>6143946
>have any of you been at a trans support or social group which you were satisfied with?

Yes.

There was a screening process with two psychologists, at least one of whom were present for each meeting in order to keep things flowing. I don't know what the requirements were to get in, but I was asked in detail about my transition and plans. Everyone in the group of 14 people was actively pursuing hormones or already on them, even the couple non-binary people.
I think that's where the most gainful division would be: people dealing with physical dysphoria and people who don't. I don't really mind non-transitioning gender ideologists (for lack of words) just doing their own thing. From what I've read, I think many have it backwards believing more labels equals more freedom. But whatever. What's pertinent is, their problems are not the same as those of dysphoric trans people and thus they're bound to divert and disrupt trans support groups.

Meetings were weekly for three months. It was mostly positive and agreeable. I learnt some shit too. Made some friends. Gained some confidence. Would recommend a group with screening.

...
Would have been perfect if that one insane dark triad motherfucker hadn't slipped through the screening. During the meetings he almost kept it in his pants, but not after. Can't hang out certain people without him tagging along, and he knows that I know that he's a pathologically disingenuous, sadistic cunt.
I know how to spot people like him, and I know how to deflect them. But I hate sitting back and watching him leech off the codependents that are abundant in vulnerable settings like that. I've tried, but even though he's so obvious, by and large you can't effectively warn people who don't already know about sociopaths: Seeing is believing. And I seent it.

Bit of a tangent, but I'm home sober on a Friday, plus I ran into that guy this week and he's still low-key mad that I won't take his bait, and I still low-key want to murder him.

>>6146345
Wait, what exactly do you think is wrong with him? What is it he wants to do?

>>6138571
it's because you're young and smoking cigarettes in the year 2016 for some reason

Would anyone be interested in FtM camboys? I know MtF porn is pretty popular but not the inverse

>>6148095
why don't you do a chaturbate show and bring back the results

>>6148108
seconding this, would tip

>>6148095

Straight guys who want to fuck you into a woman, maybe.

>>6148095
if I wanted to see ftms I'd look in the mirror. Why don't you ask chaser gen or something.

I just wanna give up

each and every day I wish I could just sleep

but then I know if I actually gave up, lost my job, lived NEET, I would inevitably become miserable and lose my mind. I would live a shell of a life

I hate this

>tfw a girl you have a crush on tells you some confuzzling things
>describe the situation to two friends, one female one male, they both say it sounded like she has feelings for me
>I know the girl is catholic and wants to have a traditional family
If it's true I don't know if I feel more sorry for myself or her.
>tfw u will never have a pure catholic waifu because the church hates you

>>6133114
Enter Boymode without ever entering back into girlmode for a year. Should be easy. I go stealth, so I went about it by introducing myself to new people as male.

>>6134991
I started thinking about kids a while back- Being depressed that I couldn't inseminate my dream girl. Then went on to settle on the thought of adoption.
Giving birth? Never in my fucking life. That's just a gross nightmare.

>>6133114
>expecting people to live as prefered gender before doing hormones
Nonsense, unless someone passes well without hormones already. It's plain stressful, you make a joke out of yourself. Nobody with a rational mind will tell people he's a guy despite looking/sounding like a dyke. I cringed hard when I tried doing that for the sake of the therapy, and then I started hormones and after 2 months I already sounded and looked like a teenage boy and it felt right already.

>>6138557
24, still often asked for ID when I buy cigarettes
it never ends

Luckily, my mom is almost 70 and looks 40, by brother is 50 and looks 20. I can always just push it to good genes and laugh it off.

>>6148675
>my brother is 50 and looks 20
I don't believe you

>>6134991
>non-binary
Meme identity.
>do any of you want to give birth?
I perceive myself as infertile, I don't even want to imagine myself giving a birth. Of course I'd like to have biological children, but me giving a birth seems very wrong. If I ever manage to get a waifu, we'll probably use in vitro, gonna ask my brother to donate sperm or something so there's at least a chance the kid will be similar to me.
>>6148675
Same tbqfh familia, my family members are also all young looking, so I just say it's genetics (almost 23 and usually asked for ID when buying alcohol or cigs)

>>6148666
Some places to do that though. It's compulsorily.
>>6148597
You should at least talk things over with her. Also, does she know you're trans?

>>6148838
Eh, I tried to ask what's up two times and apparently she's got a lot of weird feelings and is going to refrain from talking about them. It might've been about something else altogether (I assumed so at first), but I dunno why'd she act autistic with me if it didn't concern me. She talks about problems pretty casually.
She knows I'm trans, yeah. She told me about wanting to have a traditional family when she knew that already and I took it as a rejection, although she didn't even know I'm crushing on her.

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>>6138995

i'd be sad if i could never drink wine, gets me my favourite kinda drunk...

i've actually never gone to school high or drunk so i'm not sure how that'd work out... i imagine better than work, but fuck if i know, i barely went to class when i was in school honestly

when you have a lot of free time you can do pretty much anything really... all i have is free time pretty much...

sorry btw meant to get back to you yesterday, but i had to go out with my s/o (he had a job interview, since crazy guy was starting shit at the other job + knew about the other one my s/o was supposed to start next month and all the people were connected he just wanted to get away from all that... he got it though so now that's a nonissue), and then i wasn't feeling so great so trying to type a response wasn't happening couldn't concentrate and shit)

pic sorta related, i was sitting in the car and noticed my nails looked creepy pale and shit... which happens sometimes... think i might have an iron issue or something going on


>>6148904

having been raised catholic, i kinda feel obligated to tell you to stay the fuck away from someone who actually believes enough to consider themselves catholic... that's not something to immerse yourself in, and religious people often find ways to have that shit affect every facet of their lives

>>6148955
>>6148904

+ friends is one thing, but actually getting involved? that shit can really fuck people up... and mess with them especially if you're kinda forcing them to deal with something that conflicts with their faith (like being into a transguy or dating one), brings out all kinds of crazy

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>>6148955
>>6148959
Dayum, I'm a bit spooped now. She doesn't go to church and all, but yeah she believes in God and considers herself catholic. Well, whether her "weird feelings" are related to me or not, hopefully she sorts it out by herself soon.
What's funny is that she really loves gender-bender in fiction, one time I laughed that I wish she liked it so much in real life too and she smacked my head. Several times. lol

>>6134991
Listen, take my reply with a grain of salt cause I'm not going to reason too much about this, just a genuine answer from my guts
If you want a pregnancy you can't possibly claim to have a "male brain" and go on with the trans narrative, you're most likely a shitter
The mere thought of having a parasite growing inside makes my stomach turn upside down

>>6148977

i was raised with that shit as in being forced (literally, i'd get the shit beaten out of me and then pushed into it) to go to church as a kid + sunday school + catholic school for a bit... also had the displeasure of being positive i didn't believe at all by 12 (never quite did, but i couldn't really wrap my head around it or verbalize it properly 'til that age... ended up being forced into confirmation and shit) and stuck in that environment... and it can really damage the way people view the world and themselves, i've known so many people who just feel intense overwhelming guilt and shame about just being human along with all the dumb shit that's in the bible... and people who believe or have doubts about whether or not it's ok for them to not believe or have their own thoughts tend to really struggle with shit... whether or not they're in church every sunday

i'm sure i'll sound like an asshole to some people when i say this bit, but also kinda... all the good shit about her aside, why would you really wanna get involved with someone who believes in that shit? it shows a clear inability to reason, it's circular logic, and honestly with as much as we know through science and history at this point belief is just... well i'm sure you can guess

and if a chick starts from that level of unreasonable just wait 'til she's mad at you over something that makes no sense (which will inevitably happen), and you gotta deal with all that shit... or her weird god guilt

>>6134991
I was thinking about this yesterday while a conversation about having kids was going on around me. The idea of pregnancy freaks me the fuck out - something growing inside you for 9 fucking months, you have to commit to that. Imagine gritting your teeth and thinking you can do it but losing your bottle once you start showing or something, then it's too late. After a certain point, it's not up to you anymore, you have no choice and it's happening whether you like it or not. God, it's stressing me out thinking about it.

>>6148977
Anon, I think whatever happens you should probably tell her how you feel. Firstly, you've said she doesn't go to Church but considers herself Catholic, so I'm going to assume she isn't 'strictly' religious? Now, in this sense, maybe you two could just keep it easy, you know? Acknowledge your feelings for one another and just casually date - if that's somethingthat would appeal to you - because at the end of the day, life isn't a Taylor Swift song: it doesn't have to be forever or go down it flames, it can sometimes just work for a while, you know?

That being said, only you are really in a position to know how Catholic she is and how much of an issue she's going to be. While I doubt she's as much of a nutjob as Brooklyn is making out, only you can sort of judge to what extent her religion is going to make things uncomfortable.

Even if you do think, fuck it, it's going to be too complicated and I'm not willing to put the effort in, I still think you it may be advisable to try and talk to her about your feelings - if you intend to stay friends. I mean, this depends a lot on you, but you haven't yet admitted to her that you like her, right? Now, I don't know what sort of a person you are: can you deal with how you feel and continue being friends? Sometimes it can just be a great psychological release to have a conversation about your feelings and your relationship even if it ends in nothing, because at least you can vent and you know precisely where you stand, you know?

So really, what you need to ask yourself is how 'serious' is her faith; could it allow for some sort of low key relationship and is that even what you want, and how much effort do you want to put in.

>>6149009
I'm not going to deny that religion is a dangerous thing, but I think you're jumping the gun a little here. We don't even know that much about how 'fanatical' anon's girl is. It's not entirely impossible for people to be religious and accept trans people - an mtf friend of mine said she's actually received more support from the Catholic church and more hate from feminists that she would have imagined, so it's not wholly impossible to be both an ally and a Catholic. I mean, she knows anon is trans and hasn't shunned all contact with him, they're still friends, so I really don't think she's that much of a nutjob. And who's to say that a relationship with anon wouldn't actually do her good, in that it exposes to her that Catholicism definitely has it wrong on the issue of transgenderism?

>>6147545
I'm no psychologist, but he's manipulative, childish, has next to no empathy, and finds lying as easy as breathing. He literally told me as much one on one when he got too excited about all the attention I gave him. Don't know why he thought outright saying it was a good move. I think he was bragging? That whole hang sesh was seriously absurd.
So he's a bit dim and won't do anything grandiose, but he still manages to do tiny insidious things to pit people against each other and otherwise make them feel like shit without blame coming back to him. The reason he gets away with it is that unwrapping what the fuck happened is either too complex in the moment or looks like nothing without the preceding 10 events. What he does is manufacture social friction for his entertainment. Bane of a support group.

I would avoid him completely, but because reasons I can't shake him for good quite yet, so in the meantime I'm mad that he exists.

>>6149042

never said she was a nutjob, said she's probably a catholic girl... if he wants to go for it then that's on him... i've just been around plenty + also women in general

date a chick and at some point she's gonna yell at you over something fucking crazy... and the kinda chick who can believe that starts out as pretty fucking illogical is just even moreso

it's something to think about, and also since she's sorta shutting him out it's better to not focus on her

i'm not saying she's a bad person, i'm saying catholicism is a damaging religion, and i've seen a lot of that... and it's just how shit is

how many catholics you been particularly close to? or seen all the time? grew up with? it's very different when you know the way that shit is

that's not me saying she's a bad person, a waste of time, or whether or not i'd chase after that if i were him (i fucking would, and i always do cuz i'm an idiot mostly...)

i'm just giving him something to consider, at this point, before he gets too involved... and also to not just focus on one chick who you're not with when you can look for more on the side and see what happens there too

cuz that shit about catholicism is true, and that's nothing against her, but yeah...

i'm sure she has plenty of good qualities, but focusing on an unsure thing and not acknowledging some of the possible issues that are gonna be there doesn't make much sense... he's at a point where he could step back easier

and calling her a nutjob is too extreme, shit isn't that black and white... besides everyone's got problems and damage along with everything else, i'd never say to entirely discount someone like that or write them off as crazy... so yeah...

>>6149042
She knows I got a crush on her, actually. I just said that one time thinking it's obvious, as a joke, like
>damn you're such an ass, I'm not gonna have a crush on you anymore lol
>wait, you've been crushing on me?
>w-wait, you didn't realize?
It was some weeks ago and aside of laughing like "why would you even have a crush on me, what a shit taste" she said I'm not the only one in the "friend zone" and that she wants to wait some years before getting into a relationship again (she had one boyfriend who cheated on her). Combined with the earlier thing about only wanting to get in a relationship if it's with a plan of starting a traditional family one day, I took it as quite a rejection (btw the family thing is pretty painful because in fact I want to have a - more or less - traditional one too, and it's a bit sad how girls who don't mind me being trans are often not into planning a family and vice versa). But we only met each other first in February, I said the thing about the crush in March; we spend really quite a bit of time together (seeing each other few times a week, usually not in two tho) so something may have changed. Whether it did or not, it's kinda sad how the fact I'm not a biological male makes it difficult for me to find a girl who's into more traditional values and is interested in me.
To be honest it's not that I'm very attached to the idea of going out with her (like it doesn't cause me suffering, right now what keeps me thinking about it is that I hate when people do the "I got a thing to say but I'll refrain" thing, I'd like some clarity), but it is very rare for me to get romantically interested in someone due to their personality (actually happened only one time before and I'm 23), and I hit off with her quick because of sharing the same hobbies, lame humor sense and similar outlook for life, aside of her believing in God.

>>6149059

i never said "fanatical" i said like even casual... like people who don't really follow the bible at all or even necessarily know what's in it and are just perfectly decent to other people, and just believe that you should treat others how you'd like to be treated, but also just is like "yeah i believe in god"

people don't have to be fanatical... she might not see anything wrong with people being transgender and be completely accepting

that's not at all what i'm saying... i'm saying the belief and the upbringing are pure shit, and if she's involved in that enough to say she believes in something completely illogical especially if she doesn't entirely take it seriously means she's irrational

a person doesn't have to be a fanatic and devote their life to a religion or be a bad person in order for there to be a clear you might wanna not get too involved kinda deal

like i said as someone who was raised that way i felt obligated to explain a little what often comes with it...

that isn't me judging her in any other way, that's me talking about catholic girls... people always take what i say to such an extreme, just cuz i've said one thing doesn't mean i think i know all there is to her, there's more than one side to shit, and obviously i don't know the details

i'm just saying a lot of shit comes with catholicism... and to keep that in mind, it's honestly probably why she's acting that way towards him if she likes him...

however if nothing hits a level where they say anything to each other then it'll either go away or it won't

it doesn't have to be pursued right now... there's also seeing if she cracks and says something while keeping in touch

unless he's fucking in love with her, her current behaviour is reason to look elsewhere,consider the implications and continue to be her friend and see what happens

confessing feelings isn't necessary at this point and he should maybe consider some shit before saying anything

some things are better left unsaid

>>6149116

well... i bet if you chased after her you could probably at least get sex out of it if that's what you wanted...

it sounds like she likes you

>>6149167
Thanks. To be honest even if she wouldn't get into a relationship with me due to her faith, it'd be nice confidence boost if for once the girl I'm genuinely interested in, for her personality, had feelings back for me lol the other experience I had was very confusing too (she did things which normally I'd take for 100% positive sign, and even admitted it's not that she's not attracted to me, but she still rejected me). Maybe this is what my fetish is......
So far I managed to get some casual sex and that kinda stuff. Sure it gives you confidence but I don't really find it that fun. I'm not very sexual. Actually due to that I'm longing just for that "can we hold hands/hug/kiss?" kinda relationship and with how restrained she is with stuff like touching (I mean, she's still a virgin despite having a several months lasting relationship) I can imagine it'd be comfy.
Also thanks for food for thought on the catholic thing.

>>6145041
I meant nonbinary and cis

>>6149224

yeah if she's still a virgin in spite of that, it might be a faith issue... but i wouldn't date someone for longer than a month without fucking so idk...

i would stick around and see what happens though honestly... she knows what you think already so she'll decide what she wants to do about it or not

if it is a matter of her faith, then she might need time to think

i guess i see it like, while you wait for that kinda relationship to come along you may as well get laid... but if you're not very sexual i suppose it doesn't matter much to you... so no point

just see what happens with her, if it's that she likes you and it's her faith and she gets over it enough to say anything to you then see where it goes... if not there's other girls, so no big deal... you might not even feel the same once you've met someone else

>>6149313

you're welcome btw... i've just been around a lot of catholics, and i've spoken to plenty as well... and since you brought it up i assumed it must be part of who she is that might be relevant

I don't intend to offend anyone by saying this but on an emotional level my response to FTMs is "Why would you do that?". Intellectually I of course get why and it is absolutely legitimate. It sheds light on what most people probably feel about MTFs like me.

I wish I could meet a transguy to hang out with and occasioanally have sweaty hairy fun with.

>>6149428
Good on you for not rolling with and justifying your knee-jerk reaction.

>>6149428
I cringe when I see all the MTF stuff on the rest of the board, one man's nightmare is another woman's dream.

So in honor of my last final being in a few days, what's everyone doing this summer? Any big plans ?

or are all of you doing what I'm doing and working and sleeping until summer class starts?

>>6150625
My fwb is coming to town after her finals finish, so I'm planning on doing *her* a lot. Hopefully convince her to come with, on my bill, to tend to me after overseas top surgery some time next year. She's the best person in my life, to be honest.

Other than that, at every opportunity I'm gonna drag everyone I know out to the nicest parks around and just have a good time. Try to help two depressed friends shed some of that gunk. Try to drink more lemonade than beer this year. Try to be barefoot as much as possible.

>>6149428
Yeah that's exactly how I feel about MtFs, but whatever you know
Best thing would be the possibility to swap bodies between trannies

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>>6150625
I'm moving out in a couple months so sleeping until then. Once there, get me a job and work til class starts, yeah. Then continue working while doing school to keep the lights on.

I'm stoked.

>>6150625
I'm playing Ds3 until I vomit

>>6150625
Anime Expo is my big summer plan

>>6150898
Fuck, my pc is so outdated. I replaced the internal goo 6 months back and got Witcher 3 to run, but I'm out of the game now, so to speak.

I have a portable cheapshit one for notes, but my main is what once was a high end gaming laptop in 2011, if you'd believe it. I was teenage as fuck. To be a child with an adult brain and the experience of 5 more years of economical decisions.

I have a lot of thoughts on that subject of young contemporary economy, but my most salient point can be summed up thus: Noodles.

>>6150625
I think not killing myself beside sleeping is a big plan, though.
Last 40 days I played BGEE and BGIIEE and made nice 285 hours with one character. Reality hit me hard again.
>>6150984
Oh well, I also bought a high end laptop back in 2012, but I had to have a decent one for my studies. Still suitable for most games. Yup, it was stupid of me anyway.
Have you played Witcher III expansion packs? I haven't yet and I wonder if they are good enough.

>>6150826

Damn, I wish this were possible. I would give you all my facial hair in seconds.

>>6150898
PS4? Wanna co-op or slap shit at Sully's bonfire?

This is a bit odd, but do you guys have any personal rules?

For example, the reason I thought about this is, we do not text anyone after the neighborhood pizza shop is closed. During the weekend especially.

>>6151246
>we
meaning I, to be clear.

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>meet qt ftm boy on okc
>agree to go on date
>date goes pretty great
>as the night progresses things start to get hot and heavy
>he says "but anon I'm a top only, sorry"
>immediately ask if he's joking and I can see in his face that he's serious
>can't control my laughter at this point
I mean would it be too crass to ask up front if a guy is a top or a bottom

>>6150941
Same here. It's gonna be my first big con, so I'm pretty excited

>>6151270
Have fun! It'll be my third year in a row going.

>>6151263
>strictly being top only or bottom only
Fucking faggots desu you don't deserve sex

>>6151263
I guess that's what happens when you put out on the first date.

>>6151263
You sound like you're on 4chan for a good reason.

>>6151246

no one needs to know them...

>>6151300

sometimes that goes well too...

>>6151549
>no one needs to know them...

You tease. Tell me. I don't need shit, do I? I still want it. Give me one.

>>6131203
Hey. We're all horny and most of us are bisexual. I like chasers.

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>>6141908
>mfw I have dyed hair and everyone thinks I'm an SJW nonbinary tumblro.

Did somebody play the song of time because the cycle sure has repeated itself.

>>6142044
/pol/, we're 4chan trannies. We aren't as easily triggered and when we are, it's not a big pay-out. Go spam #ftm on tumblr.

>>6151671
You could be smugly referring to twenty different things, what are you talking about?

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>>6151263
>tfw T date so far ahead but horny right now.

>>6151758
it certainly ain't smug.

>>6151300
Only women don't put out on the first date, anon. Men always fucks on first dates

>>6151767
Ayy bb when you get on T and get a beard and dem sexy gains hit me up

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>>6151651


I am sorry friend, for what it's worth I also dye my hair here and there but I get away with it by having a normal man's haircut for my age range.

Honestly, i think it's a combination of certain hairstyles + coloring + your fashion sense that makes the difference.

If you dress in tight jeans, fandom t-shirts, have that mohawk/undercut hair, you probably should avoid dying your hair unnatural colors if you don't want to be conflated with Aidens.

I know a trans dude who has a really colorful mohawk and more punky and he passes fine because having a colorful mohawk is kind of par for the course with his fashion sense. He also has facial hair, I guess that helps.

>>6152078
>I know a trans dude who has a really colorful mohawk and more punky and he passes fine because having a colorful mohawk is kind of par for the course with his fashion sense. He also has facial hair, I guess that helps.
Post a pic of him, is he qt?

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Who here uses an STP?

I pack and bind but I can't bring myself to use an STP because the idea of carrying around a tube that has urine residue on it really seems unappealing to me.

>>6152139
Personally I think why bother, most places have a stall. It would only really come in handy when you need to piss in a club and the seats are covered in god knows what.

>>6152139
I'm like two years on hrt and almost pass completely but I don't pack or use a stp just because they're too much trouble and I don't have that much genital dysphoria

>>6152165
Sir, this is a trutrans only zone, please remove yourself.

>>6152164
Yeah, I don't really see the appeal of pissing in plain view of other people anyway - I prefer to use a stall and feel like I would even if I was a cis man.

>>6152165
I love packing but I get that it can be a lot of trouble, finding one that sits right is a hassle and the non-return policy makes it a bitch.

>>6152211
>I prefer to use a stall and feel like I would even if I was a cis man.

same

also, cis men are entirely capable of pissing sitting down so i've never had a huge problem with it

>>6150852
I know that feeling, I'm only not taking may-june summer class because I'm having to move too, and after that July-Aug class starts up. Sleeping is the only break I seem to get so far this year, but I'm happier this way than not tbqh

>>6150941
That sounds really fun, I've never been to a con before, is this your first one or have you been to alot of them before this one?

>>6150941
>>6151270
Neeeerrrrds

take me with you

No actually, I'm half a world away. You two faggots meet up. Make me happy.

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Speaking of packing, binding, etc - what do you bros use?

post-op need not reply for obvious reasons, unless you are talking about what you used pre-op

>>6152412
Just use a mr limpy and a binder from janet or some chinese brand named like that, I'm cheap

>>6152316
I've been going to cons for years- This Anime Expo is actually gonna be my third time at that specific convention.
My first one was SDCC 2012.

>>6152412
I use an underworks tank binder. I bought gc2b recently but my bitchtits are too big for it to actually get a flat chest

>>6151629

it's not a matter of whether or not you or anyone gives a shit... or thinks anything of it

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>>6152139
i do
but i've been making stps out of waterbottles since i was a kid

>>6152716
>making stps out of waterbottles since i was a kid

you're gonna have to explain that one to me

>>6152559
I think I remember you from past threads.

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>>6152738
remove cap and cut at the dotted line :^)

>>6152796
it's stupid how I didn't think of that.

>>6152796
im gonna go try that right now lel

>>6152139
>the idea of carrying around a tube that has urine residue on it really seems unappealing to me

but anon that's what a penis is

So what plans do you have for mothers day?
Despite my siblings and I have only spoken to our parents when someone's dies in the past 6 years there was a recent enough death for us to pull some flower arrangements.

I come here for a personal rec on where and which binder to buy, feel like mine doesn't do much

Tell me about your unrequited crush, ftmg

>>6153595

He's my closest male friend. We're both gay. Honestly, I have no idea what he thinks of me. Sometimes when he sees an attractive guy he'll tell me about it, other times when it's just us he'll try and hold my hand. He tried it last week even, but I pretended to not be interested because I didn't want things to be misinterpreted. Hugs too.

We're going to be moving in together with another friend when school starts for community college, then after that me and him will be going to the same university, but our friend will be going somewhere else. I'm not sure what will happen after community college. But we both want to be teachers. I want to teach foreign language and he wants to teach biology or history.

He's confessed to me that he wants to lose his virginity, but I talked about something else and avoided the statement.

Honestly, I like him, but I've also come to terms that things may never develop that way, or that things may not work out. But either way, I'm glad him and I are friends. He's a good guy.

>>6152168
This is a shitty meme

>>6152568
>my bitchtits are too big for it to actually get a flat chest
Fuck. I've been wearing GC2B despite this. I should suck it up and submit to chronic back pain.

>>6153483
My family has never acknowledged hallmark holidays, but both my s/o's mother and my father share the birthday of may 8th. I will most likely consume ice cream cake for 30-60 minutes.

>>6153723
>Fuck. I've been wearing GC2B despite this. I should suck it up and submit to chronic back pain.
I put on my old underworks that doesn't bind all the way and shove the gc2b on afterwards

whats /ftmg/'s opinion on chasers?

how do i tell my wife im a girl

>>6154192
do chasers exists for us?

>>6154252
burn her
>>6154270
for ftm? are you crazy? dude, theres chasers for everyone im sure. i'm also sure there are people like me out there.

>>6154252
You're not a girl. How about you tell her that.

>>6154192
Are you hot?

Mostly they tend to be annoying. If you're an otherwise attractive person with a fetish for boypussy, there's no reason not to indulge you...

>>6154286
wow thats lewd. i mean, im pretty sure i look great, people have confessed that theyd fuck me before.
http://www.gotoquiz.com/are_you_hot_or_not_11
does this quiz made on a kids site help with my confidence? totally, i got a 90%

>>6154278
yeah, you're probably right. i'm not very exposed to a lot of this stuff outside of /lgbt/ 'cause i'm stealth irl.
"people like you"?

>>6138183
Yeah, thanks for all the advise. I'm visiting my sister out of state later so maybe then I can ask a hairdresser to do something masculine. I can always say it's for theater if they ask.

It was really stupid. I didn't even write anything bad it was all PG13. I was just a scapegoat for that persons problems I think.

That's a cool bird

>>6154270
It's dudes who have some issues with themselves and want to fuck ftms into women.

>>6148597
It could work out. One of my friends is catholic and dating my ftm friend. Catholic friend wants traditional family stuff too.

>>6154894
lol, wrong thread. Ignore that.

How many of you boys are like this too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-QsF6E1XI

>>6155031
Why do those people call themselves trans boys?

>>6155038
Because they are trans and they feel dysphoria too when they are missgendered.

>>6153483

my mom likes baked goods and watching horror movies, so i'm gonna bake her something and then probably have to sit through a marathon of bad horror... horror, halloween (the holiday itself not the movie though she likes that), and food are pretty much my mom's only interests...

>>6153595

don't have one... the last person (aside from my s/o obviously) i had a thing for it was mutual, but i've since completely lost interest in them in every way... it's weird cuz normally once i care about someone i care, but i don't give a shit about them one way or another now...

>>6153709

my s/o and i had a pretty similar relationship before we started dating, and i was really oblivious to him liking me and all that... but reading someone else describe a similar sounding friendship is sorta funny in retrospect

it might not work out, but honestly, it sounds like if you were honest and tried to give it a shot you could have something special... just saying

>>6154719

no problem... honestly i'd see if you could find a barber who will cut your hair instead of a hairdresser when you go... hairdressers tend to do what they want regardless of what's agreed on so there's a good chance you'll end up with something more feminine + most are trained with a focus on women's cuts and have mostly female clients... so whether it's on purpose (to save you from your "bad choice," and that is how they'll see it) or just cuz they aren't used to it, a barber is a better choice

and thanks... i've always liked birds (my first pet as a kid was one), but i never realized they could be as cool as her before i got her... even the nice ones i've been around haven't been quite the same

>>6154789

for how long though? is your friend's goal a traditional catholic family, baptised kids, and church indoctrination?

i never really understood why someone would date someone longterm who had very different beliefs when it came to religion if the end game was the hope of having a family though...

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>>6151286
Are you going in cosplay? This might be first time I do, if i can get everything together by that time.

>>6151651
I know your pain, buddy. My brother won't stop giving me shit for it.

>>6152796
Why was you as a kid cleverer than me as an adult?

>>6153595
I am
>>6144663

It's not exactly unrequited, she just doesn't want to be with me because of my parts.

She took my virginity when we were sixteen, and she told me not too long ago that she wanted to be with me even before that, before I even told her I'm trans. We're 20 now. It came so seriously out of left field, I spent the rest of the following day (day before yesterday) in a cold, numb, empty shock. Right now, it's not even close to the biggest thing on my mind.

Kinda funny, I was texting her and she told me she wants to send me pictures of her in her new swimsuit. Having been her best friend for years, I know her inside and out, and i know for a damn fact she only sends swimsuit selfies to people she wants to be interested in her. I think she's either a) already regretting her decision, or b) is just mad that I'm not taking our breakup as badly as she wants me to.

Whatever. She told me I deserve better than her, that I deserve to be with a man like I 'originally' wanted, and I'm agreeing with her.

>>6156580
Yep! Good luck with getting your cosplays together, the last few things I was waiting on for mine just came in.

>>6155031
>That part where they're just saying No back and forth at each other

Irritating as fuck, acting like children isn't going to get anyone to take them seriously.

>"We intimidate people!"

No, you irritate and confuse the fuck out of people when you declare yourself as "feminine," are obviously female, dress in women's clothing, and yet still insist you are a boy.

Fuck off.

>>6155064
Maybe the one on the right is. The blonde one said she/xe/fae isn't female, but doesn't feel masculine at all.