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pizza edition was last thread so I guess this is feels edition

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Old Thread: >>6109883

Let's do our best, girls!
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i want to die.
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>>6110994
Same
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Amen
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Stop making threads you fat sack of shit.
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my computers too slow pls stop posting
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>>6110954
>>6110994
>>6110998
>>6111005
samefag
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First for graphz

>>6110977
Yeah, it's not super difficult to make sushi rolls, and the ingredients for California rolls aren't that expensive, assuming you use the fake crab.
Also, daily fluctuations are frustrating, they make progress hard to see until you have a few data points. ;~;

>>6110973
That doesn't mean a lot when you're also exercising and likely sweating a large amount. It helps when you get your weight under consistent conditions, I do mine in the morning right after peeing.
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>>6110991
Asking for the recipe is usually considered a compliment to the chef. They might decline because they want you to stay a customer, but I doubt they'd be offended.
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I need to kill myself. I can't take this anymore
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i guess ill kill myself too if everyone else is doing it
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Is it weird that I've spent most of today wanting to kill myself? Like, I come here and even in the last thread more people than usual wanted to kill themselves...
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>>6111017
Hey, it's the same reason most of us are trans too right?
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>>6111011
i know who you are
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>>6110992
im too lonely and lost...
i only have my mom and she is odd with me
nobody likes me
i have nobody
i just want a person to hold me and tell me im not a human piece of garbage
but i dont have anythign like that
i try but people say rude things
attack me
or assault me irl...
i have no hope anymore
i hate the people of this world-
they hate me and i hate them
>>6110998
lets make a pact...
im in california
>>6111015
come with me..
travel to california and we can do it together
its better that way
at least we can be friends in death...
>>6111017
i can give you a location in california and we can make a pact together
>>6111022
i have too but
i really want to die.
it will feel good
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>>6111005
I'm sorry, I'm hoping this cold I have turns into pneumonia tho

>>6111014
oh, I'll ask next time then
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>>6111031
what's my social security number
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>>6111032
I'm tempted
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>>6111032
>lets make a pact...
I'm in Florida want to meet in the middle maybe on top of a mountain or something like that?
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So I did my bra size as per instructions from a bra that fits and it says I am a 36 C but that can't be right.
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>>6111032
>i have too but
>i really want to die.
Same, but it's not that normal for me. It's just like, weird that today it hit me like this, when you do too. Usually I'm able to push it aside and focus on other things but I can't even bring myself to nicepost today. Maybe I'm just scared of the future or something, idk.
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>>6111035
your trip i mean
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>>6111012
I might try to find sushi-grade salmon if I can, but avocado/cucumber is pretty good imo.

>daily fluctuations are frustrating
Try weighing yourself when you wake up, after going to the bathroom.

>>6111033
If the chef has any pride in their job, it's like asking an artist if you can buy their work. Huge compliment.
>mfw nobody's asked to buy my music :(

>>6111032
You can't feel anything if you're dead.
You're not fixing anything by dying, just running away from the problems.
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>>6111046
Well all you have to do is go buy a balconette bra in that size like the guide suggests.

The guide said I was a 32 C, I thought it was crazy but it turns out that size fits me perfectly.
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>>6111032
i may be wrong but from what you said it sounds like your mom is just worried about you but expressed that worry in an inappropriate way

and that's not true because i like you. and a lot of other people like you too.

my email is [email protected]
like i said i have to study for finals so i cant really talk until monday night. im pretty sure i live kinda close to you, although i dont know if im brave enough to meet someone from the internet in person.
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>Chime in
>Almost half the posts talking about suicide

Ahaha, what nice weather, right guys?
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>>6111053
what is it and how do you know
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>>6111068
I just dont want to hurt and be hurt anymore
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>>6111072
>how do you know

secret
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>>6111068
yeah, I love the rain
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>>6111078
ok that's fine but what's my trip
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>>6111040
i dont have the money to go there...
im sorry
>>6111038
we can give each other a hug then die...
>>6111049
my future is over
there is nothing left
nobody will even talk to me irl
all i have left is hoping this person who stole shit from me in the past is willing to let me get super fucking high
i really think i want to die
no doubts about it
>>6111063
fucking good.
im tired of trying to deal with them only resulting in failure.
if i can be selfish and run away by committing suicide then its all the better.
>>6111067
my email is [email protected]
and okay... try to enjoy your studying
thank you for being so nice to me...
thank you so much anon...
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>>6111066
>go buy a balconette bra
thank you for giving me the style name, this is so confusing lol, I used to order custom pistons and that seemed easier than buying a fucking bra. I know like when I first got hrt I bought a shit tier push up but it was an impulse buy and doesn't fit at all anymore.
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>>6111068
Suicide is fun :)
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Post >your face when Arin Hanson confirmed trans >>6101120 >>6101120 >>6101120
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>>6111081
you haven't posted it in the thread yet
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>>6111089
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>>6111068
i dont want to hurt anyone and i dont want to hurt anymore.
im sorry about posting like this im just veyr sad and i dont want to live anymore
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>>6111092
just tell me my trip ya jerk
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>>6111089
>confirmed trans
That link says the exact opposite...
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holy shit

suicide is the worst option..if you think there's even a chance of things getting better, please don't! there are people out there who love you

if you are depressed, exercise, get outside, get a pet, whatever helps take care of the dysphoria
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>>6111063
Do you have any Asian supermarkets in your area? They tend to have a lot of sushi grade stuff in their fish departments.
Also, yeah that's what I started doing, the numbers got a lot more consistent after that although they still fluctuate a bit. Thank goodness I don't poop anymore or they'd vary even more.
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>>6111077
>>6111096
HI me
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someone pick out a balconette bra for me on amazon. I am lost here.
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>tfw work has probably been about to fire somebody for a week or two
>be lazy piece of shit this month because stress and no energy (and the two weeks I had tonsilitis and had allergic reaction to lidocaine)
>everyone gets hours cut but me the most
>20 HOURS
>Y
>miss a mandatory meeting that was mentioned to me once off hand bc I forgot when I went to bed last night
>probably close to being fired
Okay now I seriously need to start applying places
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>>6111104
Suicide is my life goal for when I find out passing isn't possible.
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>>6111084
Please don't kill yourself, there's always a way to make things better. Build a better future, find new friends, force a smile and fake it 'till you make it! Even if you feel like you want to die, think about happy future you who'll never get a chance to live if you die now. Seriously, please don't kill yourself, okay?
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>>6111089

fuck off,


arin hanson is disgusting, fat, hairy ugly and he's almost 30 now. and will never pass.


just like edgar.
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>>6111107
it feels bad.....
im going to leave for a bit.
>>6111104
better than breathing another day.
I exercise.
When I go outside people either attack me emotionally or physically.
I have a pet but she hates me even though I feed her.
Nothing resolves my pain
>>6111121
i cant find friends..
people in my area hate trannies and i cant legally move out.
i dont care if I can get a happy future, i only care about wanting to die now
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>>6111114
incredible get

http://www.amazon.com/Lily-France-Womens-Smooth-2111541/dp/B000YGH3DM
http://www.amazon.com/fruitVogue-Balconette-Underwire-Lightly-SL_561_80D/dp/B0196Z79BC/
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>>6111123
M8 if you go after a celebrity you are gonna be arrested and have millions of her fans come after you.
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>>6111116
You can't get fired. I would have to track you down all over again.
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>>6111127
Stay safe
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>>6111105
The mac n cheese is great. Come over and I'll share
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>>6111131
most of his fans baked cookies for the audience then lost their obsession after making a video about it reflecting his thoughts about why he was a fan in the first place
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>>6111128
aren't those a little too frilly?
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>>6111105
I'm not sure, but I have a Wegman's and asian friends who could tell me.
>don't poop anymore
How? Tell me your secrets!

>>6111118
Why no FFS?

>>6111116
I applied for a repair tech at sears because I was bored, want money and hate office jobs, and even though I have no qualifications aside from passing Physics 2, they still want to hire me. I dun get it.

>>6111128
>-Underwire-
I thought those were supposed to hurt?
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>>6111147
>I thought those were supposed to hurt?
I think they support better with less material?
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>>6111116
Good luck finding someplace better/improving your work performance gem! You can do it, I believe in you!
>>6111127
Why can't you legally move out? And find friends online then. maybe Portland friends or friends who wouldn't mind moving to Portland with you and make a life plan for moving forward as soon as whatever's holding you back fucks off.
>>6111140
F-find one yourself then! ;_;
>>6111147
grafghfahgdjk go get a sports bra then!
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>>6111147
>just get ffs
Kill yourself my man.
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>>6111163
>my man
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>>6111156
idk, maybe. I don't have boobies yet

>>6111157
you know what, maybe I will!

>>6111163
no
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>>6111012
So when do you plan on losing weight?
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Getting SRS seven days from now. Feeling beautiful when I look in the mirror. Being in love with a wonderful woman. Good feels all around. Something really wrong is bound to happen to me to balance that...
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>tfw go andromode to Mark Kermode talk & Silent Running screening
>goes good, talk to him afterwards, his hands really are as big as they say omg
>go shopping
>keep checking reflection in different windows etc.,
brain alternating between
>"huh wow I actually pass okay compared to some uk women, maybe I'm fine"
>I'm going to kill myself when I get home, I'm fucking repulsive, look how thick my body is, look at that fucking profile, oh my god"
>"maybe I don't pass but that's not the be all and end all, and anyway I'm still slowly making progress"
>"you're a gigantic faggot and you have tits and beard stubble, you're a freak, kill yourself edgar you raging hon"
fuck's sake, how do I figure out which one is correct when none of them come from an unbiased state of mind?

oh and then
>go to GBK after done shopping
>everyone's totally friendly and okay as normal
>half the people who work there are obvious tumblrinas anyway
>order food, sit down
>family of 6, all adults, keep glancing over me
>by the time my food comes I'm really pissed off
>look up and see big bearded hard dude in a tartan shirt staring again and mumbling to his wife
>make eye contact back
>turns to a look of disgust and anger
>rush to toilets to try and figure out what's making them realise I'm a freak of nature
>look in mirror
>obvious hormone-softened tranny face with brow bossing and humongous, angular, cleft chin
>realise I'm wearing a t-shirt with nothing over the top again, obvious tits, unmistakable, not moobs, round, womens' tits and w/ my big ribcage and then the shirt over them they look even bigger than they actually are
>am remembered of the fact that literally everyone who's not already too used to me to see the changes can tell at a glance I'm a disgusting unpassing hon tranny now even if I dress guyish
>shrink as far back into my seat as possible when I get back and hunch over and try not to look at their table again

I'm so ashamed of being trans.
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>>6111163
>tfw I got ffs and still the manliest man ever
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>>6111157
>F-find one yourself then! ;_;
I mean they are cute but if I bought it I would feel like I am misappropriating femininity and then people will look at me like a creep. I already have problems still trying to accept myself acting more feminine.
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>>6111180
FFS is just a meme, it doesn't fix a man skull anyway.

I could only pass if I wore burka at all times and never spoke.
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oh and also my parents rang and they're coming to visit on Monday and they haven't seen me in a couple of months now and it's so obvious now and OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO
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>go out in girlmode
>talk to people and not one person gives me a strange look
D-do I pass? Or were they being polite?

>>6111177
>Getting SRS seven days from now.
Who are you getting it with? And congrats!
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>>6111179
You can't stay in between forever. Few people can pull that off. Time to wear bras and fix that face with makeup. Not passing as male is a sign you're headed in the right direction.
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>>6111180
every single day you whine about it
just as i said you would
glad you proved me right
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>>6111191
Depends who they were to be honest.
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>>6111169
>you know what, maybe I will!
Good! I hope you do!
>>6111184
You can't misappropriate femininity you silly, it's not something any one group owns. Anyway, I hope you find a bra that doesn't feel too frilly to you but is still the kind you want c:
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>>6111191
Chett. Only got good feedback about him from the post-op women I know IRL, so I'm not worried at all about the surgery. A bit more about airport security...
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>>6111189
My dad hasn't noticed anything in 3 years hrt, probably not my mom either but she knows im a degenerate tranny.

>tfw look literally the same as before hrt except long hair and stuff
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are they big enough to merit wearing a bra even?

https://unsee.
cc/bagupeti/
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I am too cool to transition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUSI44zHthg
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>>6111179
your obsession with one specific restaurant as a routine and complete lack of awareness over yourself and your body, down to the clothes you wear honestly is so hardcore autistic it makes me cringe.
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>>6111189

run away
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>tfw 140 at 5'6
>tfw fat belly
i hate myself.
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i couldnt hold down my breakfast....
i threw up-
>>6111136
well i puked and it was bloody but
is that safe enough?
>>6111157
i cant go there...
i need to stay away from drugs-
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>>6111206

resistance is futile

>>6111211

>tfw calorie counter
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>>6111184
Wonderbra full effect or VS bombshell. You can find them with no frills at all, barely visible if your top matches and they really do their job.
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>>6111200
They were working in a shop, it's why I can't really tell if it was just politeness or if they just couldn't tell.

>>6111202
That's great! Yeah, I'm terrified of airport security no matter what ;_;
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>>6111202
>A bit more about airport security...
thai airport doesnt give a fuck
I forgot where youre from tho, that might be a problem
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>>6111189
>tfw won't see my parents again for ~3 months
>paranoid of them noticing changes
iktf
plus I gotta get my meds refilled while I'm staying with them for a month then, guess I gotta come out to my friend that's still in town and has a car
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Here's a feel. Who here /daddyissues/? My dad died when I was 4. I think that's the reason I like being fucked and degraded
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>>6111219
probably politeness..
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>>6111220
France, I'll have a short stopover in Germany.
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>>6111225
germany didnt care, and I was travelling with male documents.
france wont be a problem either.
UAE didnt check my stuff cause transit
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>>6111223
My dad abused me all my childhood until I was 16 and my parents seperated
>tfw he didnt die yet
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>not telling your parents youre trans
wtf if you are an independent person what's the problem
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>>6111220
Were you chett or suporn?
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>>6111238
>independent person

good joke
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>>6111191

Yep, that's passing! Congrats.

>tfw people call you a girl then immediately correct themselves and apologise

See, that, that isn't passing.
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>>6111223
I hate my dad, he disgusts me. I think he has autism. I don't know how my mom married him.
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>>6111238

>being a dumb wagie
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>>6111216
It's feels different today. Like my something has been unblocked in my mind. Like the repression is no longer repression. But just the passive existence of my psyche.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snVhi74Q3vk

Spartan might just yet survive.
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>>6111204
I mean, do they poke through a t-shirt?

>>6111211
>5'11", 120 lbs
I mean, wearing arm warmers to hide the fact that your forearms are thinner than your wrists isn't ideal either.
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>>6111223
i have those...
my dad abused me a lot
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>>6111228
I'm definitely not going to dress as an anime nazi, though, I'm sure I wouldn't make it past security. Going to wear a floor length red trench coat and a red hat, just for the lulz.
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>>6111140
>you will never kiss kaylas frilly cupped breasts
worst feeling
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>>6111254
m'lady
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>>6110954
What a bad feel picture.
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>>6111247
>implying you have to be a wagie to not live with your parents
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>>6111223
I must be the only one here who has Dethroned their father as the alpha male
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>>6111244
>tfw people call you a girl then immediately correct themselves and apologise
Oh gosh, I hate when that happens!

>oh hey miss, what can I - Oh sorry man, what can I do for you?
;_;
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>>6111228
>UAE
Kek I bet that's like a system so unpassing hons get killed on the way there
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My phone is broken so in the space between going to bed and falling asleep I'm left alone with the reality of my body.
I might legitimately kill myself if this goes on.
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>>6111263
UAE is fine.
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>>6111079
I love rain, clouds, "bad" weather in general, it's so comfy.
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>>6111241
suporn graduate spring 2014

>>6111254
>I'm definitely not going to dress as an anime nazi,

awwwwwwwwww
and here I was about to suggest new styles ;_;
but yeah, you dont need to worry about the transstatus in western europe. maybe a male will search you if they clock you while checking in, but otherwise its really unlikely that anything will happen

>>6111263
but I survived.
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>>6111269
Sandniggers are sandniggers
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>local butchers is called Bowers
>award winning sausages

hmmm
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>>6111274
idgi.
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>>6111273
Turkey was fine.
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>>6111187
This

>>6111198
I'm just fishing really.
I like to give the bantz :)
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anyway, I'm going to go back to not posting... trying to limit my time here
but the plan is to try to lose 1kg a week so that get under 100kg(220lbs) by new years and then to lose another 32kg at a rate of 1kg a week in 2017 to get down to 68kg(150lbs) and that would mean I'd be at my goal weight

>>6111257
I'm sorry, have a replacement
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>>6111277
Bowers is a SRS surgeon and isn't very good
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>tfw drunk
>tfw no bf to push me against a wall and fuck me
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>>6111195
>You can't stay in between forever.
It's inadvisable, and I don't want to, but that doesn't mean I can avoid it if I never reach passing.

>Time to wear bras and fix that face with makeup.
kek I was wearing concealer to hide the worst of the stubble, doesn't change the fact I have a truly AWFUL bone structure for transition with the one possible exception of my cheekbones
>tfw facial hair so coarse and thick laser costs £200 a session for me
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>/mommyissues/

my mom would beat the shit out of me in front of friends until I was twelve and told me that all of my injuries and illnesses were either made up or overblown (she told me that my sprained ankle was "my fault" so we didn't have to go to the doctor, and forced me to limp around on it for 6 months while it failed to heal). Now she complains about how terrible of a kid I was and how much she hated "raising" me.

>>6111270
It puts my dysphoria at ease :)
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>>6111280
don't believe you
you have a good life and still find ways to complain
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We're all clear here that I only complain for fishing purposes most of the time, right?
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>>6111209
>so hardcore autistic
wow, fuck, I wonder why that could be

senpai I'm literally a diagnosed spastic, autist and generally neurologically-impaired person
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>>6111287
Mind if I kill her?
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>>6111288
I would rate my life 5/10
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>>6111223
My dad is such a total psycho and non-parent-figure and made me so sexually repressed that as a result I constantly long for a boyfriend who can be my substitute father too
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>>6111293
I can't commit to being trans or repressing because I am bipolar
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>>6111298
I would kill for a 5/10.
At some points I even thought I had a 5/10, but I had been too jaded, some people are actually OK with existing.
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>>6111298
compared to?
you are a normie and should be happy
living the dream
you have no legitimate complaints
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>>6111285
Your cheekbones aren't feminine
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i lost weight.
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>>6111287
>/mommyissues/
My mom has been a drunk for most of my life. She's spent so many years drinking her life away. My dad divorced her, she's lost multiple jobs, lost her home, got kicked out of my grandparents house after that, wont leave her abusive boyfriend, was supposed to meet up with me like 3 times now but something always happens so we can't. She's coming into town to do something with my sister but she's even a few hours late for that.
My daddy issues are just him not being very close or empathetic to me but that's no big deal.
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who here ships kayla and maddie?
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>>6111308
some people say different, I did throw 'possible' in there
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>>6111303
You should really just beat up your dad. Worked for me.
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i wonder who im shipped with....
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>>6111315
Some people are retarded.
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>>6111318
literally who? Sorry, it's been years since my mind stopped retaining new names in these generals. And honestly I've probably forgotten most of the oldies too
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>>6111318
M-me maybe? *hopeful glance*
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>>6111293
doesn't mean you can't learn to have some self awareness instead of expecting everyone to understand and not stare, because obviously it bothers you. why not do something about it? develop a routine where you actually see what you're wearing before you go outside, or try out other restaurants and have a 'today can be gbk day' idk senpai, you end up distressing yourself constantly but you don't do anything
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>>6111287

Your mother sounds like a bitch. She doesn't deserve the least amount of your time.
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>>6111308
agreed, they look like mine.
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>>6111310
post a current non angled pic with hair in full view so it proves to the spergs that post your super old picture that you arent bald anymore
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>>6111324
!islaaasvoa
!urprincess
!PupGirl./Q
Isla...
not many know me
>>6111325
idk who you are anon ._.
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>>6111330
ok here i am :)
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>>6111329
its debatable, some say high check bones are attractive, its probably the bone structure that matters
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>>6111334
hey isla
i know you said no greasey foods
but im really tempted to order a pizza
heeeeeeelp
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>>6111318
Ill put you on my ship and we can cuddle and travel around the world. lots of headpats.
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great, now I have the word "hypochondriac" echoing in my head... feel like I'm making everything up, and I've just convinced myself I want to be a girl; that this is normal.

I hate this. I hate everything.

>>6111297
nope, she's an awful person

>>6111270
there's nothing more wonderful than the crack of thunder in the night, piercing the soft patter of a rainstorm :D
>>6111311
That's really rough. :(
My dad just doesn't have the conviction to say that she's wrong about anything she does, so as a kid, I just thought he agreed I was worthless. They've been angry at each other, living a distant, volatile marriage for the past 10 years, in the same way that they're refusing to disown me.
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>>6111336
I thought you were a boogyman who wasn't allowed here
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>>6111334
>idk who you are anon ._.
>tfw Isla forgot me
Good thing this is feels edition...
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Alright, I want to get serious about practicing my voice now but I'm too retarded to just go by how it sounds through my head.

I'm awful at keeping mic headsets from breaking and the only standing microphone I'm familiar with is the Blue Yeti which was used in an old podcast group I was in. The mic and speaker on my phone is shit so that's out too.

Should I just drop the $100 on the Blue Yeti because I'm familiar with it? I'm considering dropping down to another product of theirs and going with their "Snowball" microphone instead.

This wouldn't necessarily just be for voice practicing though. I am trying to be more active and social and the podcast group might relaunch some day in some other fashion. Or also for gayming.

Basically: anyone swear by some other stand alone mics?

I'm not -too- concerned about the price, I just always, always put off any "non-essential" purchase to make sure I really want to get it. I put off buying a $8 bathroom scale for two weeks.
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>>6111341
that sounds nice but thats not a ship...
not that i was talkin about at least
>>6111338
you can order it but run a paper towel over it before eating it
>>6111344
wtf....
there are a lot of anons im not sure which one you are
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>>6111336
Share pics of hair pls I want to know it's possible to recover
>>6111342
Address and full name pls
>>6111348
Just messing with you, and doing a poor job of it. Sorry~
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>>6111351
it isn't, give up and become a used camel salesman.
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>>6111354
I'm serious, please ;_;
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Lol, people cant handle being told to shut the fuck up.
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>>6111351
im not much in the mood since im super sad rn...
are you cute?
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>>6111305
Oh :/

>>6111306
Idk
I'm not cis
Not working my dream job
Don't have srs
I'm not tiny
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>>6111342
>feel like I'm making everything up, and I've just convinced myself I want to be a girl
But why though? Why would you convince yourself of that? Especially knowing how hard and shitty this life is?
>there's nothing more wonderful than the crack of thunder in the night, piercing the soft patter of a rainstorm :D
No kidding, it's the one reason I hate living in the basement, I don't hear it as well as if I went upstairs.
>That's really rough. :(
meh, I'm detached from it and since she has no home I don't have to live with her while she's drinking and my dad would bail me out anyway if she was.
I hope your dad can get his shit together, he needs to stand up to your mom, divorce her if need be, and repair things with you.
>>6111348
>you can order it but run a paper towel over it before eating it
I might. I also have these like cheese filled pasta shell things I might bake, they're probably healthier and taste good but pizzaaaaa...
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>>6111357
mmr?
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>>6111358
rawr is the best and on her way to great things in life
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>>6111355
no
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>>6111348
>run a paper towel over it before eating it
use this tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2A1qYpp4HA
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>>6111357
which game?
please dont tell me youre playing mobas senpai.
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>>6111316
I have a condition that makes my muscles and joints so weak I've been told not even to jog for exercise. My dad is a brown belt in karate and once punched a hole through a solid wooden bathroom door because my mum forgot to complete an invoice for him.
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>>6111365
2700
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>>6111357
There should be harsher penalties for frivolous reports.
>>6111358
I'm sorry, I hope you feel better soon <3
The only thing arguably cute about me is my behavior at times, but I'm physically not cute at all >~<
I'm hoping HRT will help fix that, but really if it makes me less depressed that would be more than enough.
>>6111367
You're a mean person, don't talk to me anymore.
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>>6111373
Dont worry i dont play moba seriously, im the shitstain handicapping his team and trashtalking them every game. Been on a str8 downward streak sine 3400MMR lel
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>>6111357

It's almost as though you were an obnoxious cunt...
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>>6111376
i really don't pass, sorry.
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>>6111366
i dont understand...
>>6111370
oh its just what i do
>>6111361
you can do that!!
>>6111376
oh well you can email me if you want
[email protected]
:3
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>>6111380
I need to antagonize someone, if I didnt id be venting here again.
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>>6111326
I do look before I go out, occasionally I even post my outfits on here before I go out to see whether I get any worthwhile responses inc. criticism. The problem is my memory's so bad I forget, so I may go out wearing a hoodie but I'll take it off without remembering why I shouldn't. You've gotta understand senpai, my memory's so fucked that I'll put something down, turn around to do something else, and instantly start hunting high and low for said object because I've already forgotten I was holding it seconds before. All the time. A dozen or more times a day.

>>6111345
Blue Yeti is best.
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>>6111382
I don't mean to be rude but are you bald?
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>>6111357
>cartman will never carry you in dota
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>>6111382
>I don't pass

;)
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>>6111393
yes.
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>>6111382
There's no reason to apologize to me silly, don't worry about it, sorry for bothering you with my stupid pointless requests.
>>6111383
Thanks but I don't want to bother people by emailing them or anything I'm not a good person to talk to and I don't like forcing people to weigh wanting to be polite against wanting me to fuck off.
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apparently at least other people think im cute
thats about all i have going for me
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I don't know why my parents insist on hanging things up to dry inside, they always end up feeling rough and sticky. Just put it in the dryer, my clothes literally never shrink and they always feel so nice and soft afterwards as opposed to sticky cardboard.
>>6111383
my dad said he didnt want either so we're just gonna go out and get sandwiches :s
How's Hearthstone going?
>>6111376
Nicenon right? How are you doing today?
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>>6111374
Fine I'll beat him up. I'm 6 foot 5 and 200lbs
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>>6111402
smarts go a long way Isla..
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>>6111147
U just need the hrt for long enough. Girls don't poop, you know that right?

>>6111137
>tfw no Mac and cheese
:(

>>6111175
I am, can you read graphs?
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>>6111394
I could probably do it if sober but im always baked so dont count on it.
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>>6111357
>>6111375
Call of duty is a better game you fat sack of shit.
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>>6111402
How can you *not* think you're cute? I don't get it lol
>>6111403
How did you know it was me!? o.o
I'm not really doing that well but thanks for asking c: How about you?
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>>6111412
Säg nej till droger :(
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We could talk about boys.
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>>6111386
>posts anime girls in a tranny thread
>claims not to be a tran
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>>6111401
i feel the exact same
i want to talk to you
email me
or let me email you
[email protected]
>>6111403
its enjoyable since im finally talking to someone and ive stopped crying so thats good
thank you for talking to me and asking
>>6111409
i am not really smart...
i wish i was
im kinda dumb
>>6111420
i think my entire existence is gross and weird :(
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>>6111426
ok
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>>6111433
practice eberyday! XD
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>>6111426
>talking about boys in agp general
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Why is the only thing to do anymore feel like sleep x.x. Fuck I probably should get a new script of my antidepressants =\
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>>6111434
so.. Dicks, what's up with those, amirite?
>>6111437
I won't let the agp win.
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kill me
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>>6111439
sleep helps with depression or whatever..
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>>6111447
It actually doesn't though and makes it worse, it's a symptom of it x.x
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>>6111345
The yeti blue is amazingly versatile for entry-level stuff. You can do anything with it. Have one myself, and love it to death.

The snowball is a cardiod (iirc), so you can only (effectively) record one person at a time with it. I'm not familiar with it though, so you should ask someone else too.

>>6111351
If I really wanted it done, I'd do it myself.

>>6111357
>97%
lmao, I'm impressed

>>6111361
>making it up
I felt like I was being torn in half, because of how much I had heard, "oh, if you don't have a fever, it doesn't matter how shitty you feel, you're not sick, so you can't stay home". It made me feel like all of my pain was being invalidated. On top of that, my sisters were quickly dismissed as sick just because they didn't get out of bed. I was just told to quit being a bitch and go to school. The only way I could get them to realize that I was actually sick was when I got really fucking mad about it, and that was great for my mental health. Just great. I can't even trust my own judgement, because nobody corrected anything. I even had higher grade standards than either of my sisters. I got grounded, computer/guitar/phone (literally everything I had to cope with dysphoria and depression) taken away (to my mom's office, just for good measure) for Bs, and they're both chilling out with Ds at the exact same time like it's perfectly normal. What the fuck??? Apparently, I'm special, and I'm "going to do great things one day", so I have too much potential to be wasting my time playing games, writing music and enjoying my fucking life.
>I don't have to live with her while she's drinking
my dad's a drunk too, so now I feel like I have a really good reason to a) not drink, and b) get as far away from here as possible

>basement
I think the best night sleep I ever had was when I was house-sitting for my friend. His bed was in a loft, and it was a really rainy week.
>pizza
>mfw I live in the middle of nowhere so I can't get it delivered
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>>6111436
practice what?
>>6111446
i seriously want to be killed family.
>>6111442
im starting to only like those when they are on a certain person...
feelsbad
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>>6111442
Is there a way I can force myself to be attracted to boys to feel less agp?
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>>6111437
>agp
>still like boys
I don't see the problem
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>>6111408
Is this true. Have you fuckers been lying about repression?
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>>6111455
Yes, go to a christian anti-gay conversion facility
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>>6111451
well I guess thats why I've been sleeping in a lot
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>>6111439
My antidepressants are supposed to help me sleep. Thing is, they don't do a thing for my nightmares. Maybe if I somehow managed to free myself from survivor's guilt, I'd sleep better. Feels unlikely, though.
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>>6111459
>agp
>still like boys
not a thing.
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>>6111459
youre the least agp person I know (except myself)
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>>6111466
>tfw had horrific, gory, vomit-inducing, hours-long nightmares every single night from as early as I can remember til about mid-way through puberty
>tfw didn't even have a series of horrific life events to precipitate them like CFH, just fucked up in the head
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>>6111461
What do you mean
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>>6111472
B-but I ironically claim to be agp because it's such a ridiculous meme ;~;

>>6111471
Agps can't like boys at all?
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>>6111426
>tfw only chance of getting bf any time soon is to get some desperate guy in my apartment complex while i'm doing my internship because I don't want anyone at my dorm knowing
one day I won't be hideous
>>6111446
mtfg suicide pact when
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>>6111472
>having anime girls saved on your pc
>not agp
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>>6111461
It's true. I didn't fit in since elementary. Some people thought I was gay before I knew what gay was because I didn't fit the stereotype.
>>
>>6111433
L-let me consider it and I'll email you later maybe, I'm not very comfortable doing that kind of thing so sorry if I'm being too reluctant or something. I'm really shy sorry :c

Your existence isn't gross or weird, you're super cute and you seem like a great person! Don't bully yourself!
>>6111452
>If I really wanted it done, I'd do it myself.
Well, if you ever change your mind and don't want to get caught by the police, lemme know. Like strangers on a train, except I don't know anybody I'd want killed except myself lmao
>>6111466
>>6111481
Aww, I'm sorry you two :c
Here's hoping you have exclusively sweet dreams from now on <3
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUjSiNwixs
best mmd desu.
>>6111454
iktf. can youkill me plox?
>>6111488
we should kill each other because i'm too much of a coward to diy....
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>>6111493
not my fault, cartman made me
>>
>>6111451
>>6111361 (continued)
>"such a waste of potential"
I've heard it all my fucking life. I wish I was just stupid so people wouldn't pity me and complain about me wanting to be happy so fucking much. I wish I had been born a girl so I could at least be successful without dealing with this bullshit. I wish people had realized that something was wrong when I was a walking zombie for 3 years, instead of just looking at my grades and test scores, saying "oh, this boy is perfect". I wish I was actually worthless, because then I'd be ok with killing myself. I wish I was dead.
I wish I was treated like a fucking human.
That's all I want. That's all I ask, and I wish it wasn't too much for the cunts that raised me, because now I'm completely fucked up. I can't even trust that someone loves me when they say they do. I have to ask myself if they're just trying to get something from me by playing with my emotions.

I can't even breathe. I want it to end, and while I know that I can make everything better through sheer willpower, I have to stop and ask, "maybe I'm just kidding myself. Maybe what I have is something I can live with."
I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it.
I'm in so much pain every single day and I want it to stop, and I know how to, but there's a voice in the back of my head telling me that nothing needs to change because I'm just making it up, and I FUCKING HATE IT.
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>>6111495
alright.
and sorry thank you but i hate myself and deserve to be bullied
>>6111499
i cant hurt anybody else... even if they want it
>>
i don't know what's wrong with me. i don't think i have any real friends left. the person who i loved most in the world and who i spoke with for hours every day left me without warning and told me she hated me.

i'm slowly starting to hate the one person i know in real life.

so many of the things i liked now make me hurt a little
>legend of galactic heroes, which we'd just started watching together
>a couple of memes which we memed at each other with
>portal 2, which she wanted me to get so we could socialize together
>little verbal tics i picked up from her and still unwittingly use
>the remnants of little jokes we made together, like a little java program i made as a dick joke

i don't know what to do. she's probably forgotten about me already.
>>
>>6111500
Whenever I think of Germany these days I think of the tranny eating cornflakes and piss from a toilet.
>>
i wonder if she did it because someone spoke with her, but even so i can't even begin to blame them. she must have seen pieces of what they said in what i was, and put the dots together.

i don't know. i don't know. i thought i'd gotten over it a couple of days ago, but it hurts so much and i don't know what to do.
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>>6111451

post butt
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>>6111499
We will kill each other during the cage match
>>
she would probably laugh if she heard that i'd done something bad to myself, now. her voice was so wonderful and perfect that i can't even imagine it contorted in schadenfreude, but she did it anyway. it hurts a lot more than it should and i wish i was a good enough person to have noticed that something was bothering her.
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>you will never have a friend
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>>6111530
not that bad of a feel imo desu some of us are meant to be alone
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Sorry for complaining and crying uncontrollably about being praised as a child. I'm obviously don't deserve to live, being such an ungrateful cunt.
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>>6111530
>>6111530
>>6111530
>>6111530
same
>>
>tfw one of my old coworkers points out how long my hair is now and that i've got a pink phone case
I wonder what he'll say when I start wearing makeup and girlclothes :^)
>>6111420
>How did you know it was me!? o.o
I just know these things.
>I'm not really doing that well
What's wrong dear?
>How about you?
I'm pretty okay I guess!
>>6111433
Of course Isla <3
I'm really glad to hear someone's talking to you and you're feeling better
>>6111530
Wanna watch Strike Witches together?
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>>6111545
>not having friends
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>>6111550
>having friends
are you a normie or sth
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>>6111507
> I wish I was actually worthless, because then I'd be ok with killing myself. I wish I was dead.

>but there's a voice in the back of my head telling me that nothing needs to change because I'm just making it up, and I FUCKING HATE IT.

I know that so well. For me thought it's out of feeling broken. It's like yes maybe parents were emotionally checked out and ignored you for most all of your childhood. My mom was always busy with work and dad was drinking. They weren't abusive outright though so I end up with all these feelings that it isn't as bad as it feels I should've just dealt with it, and that I'm broken for not being able to do that better.

But I mean we're here, we're doing something that we can to make it better, and that's more or less how I manage to get through is just remembering that like, at least I'm making some (if extremely slow) progress.
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>>6111499
strongest willed/most determined forces the others to do it themselves at gunpoint. presto
>>6111530
I miss having friends and people to socialize with irl. I had one semester where I hung out with people, but that was because it was study abroad and it was the only way I could go to some places
>>6111550
>actually having friends
get out reeeee
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>>6111545

midget kate marsh.jpg
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>>6111552
>>6111554
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNpjCFSkZw
>>
>>6111545
You keep posting your pictures expecting compliments hon?
>>
>>6111481
oh and
>mfw there are still people who are surprised I'm as fucked up as I am given everything I've said about my childhood and adolesence
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>>6111544
Don't think that, it's the same thing for me. I'm basically just crying cause it never felt like my mom and dad loved me and that I wish they had helped me socialize more younger instead of leaving me in a room with a television.

>>6111518
Hey Ave hows you?
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>>6111565
yeesh you are bitter
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she'd broken up with me once before and i was horribly afraid of her doing the same to me again. every other time she said we needed to have a chat in private, she had to assure me that she'd never break up with me again. i told her that i was terrified that i might say something that might make her disgusted with me enough to end it, and she always told me no, the only thing that could stop it would have been if i'd really done something evil. in the end, she didn't even have a chat with me when she did it.

someone told me that maybe she spoke to someone else and that that convinced her, but if someone else could convince her of something while i spoke with her for hours a day, she must have seen me in their words.
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>>6111547
yeahhhh i am feeling better ^_^
well kinda....
its hard to explain
i still want to die but i have a distraction
>>6111550
i have 0 irl friends.
zilch unt nada.
i got into contact with someone who can get me drugs tomorrow though so thats good
>>6111555
im not too short though.
>>6111565
nope!
i post cuz i can
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>>6111547
S-sure

>>6111554
I really miss having friends too, haven't had a real one in 7 years and i'll never pass so rip having a life ever.
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>>6111568

i said

POST BUTT
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>>6111564
I approve!
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im eating salt and vinegar pringles and watching the transgeneration series (some doc series that came out in 2004/5 time) and its the worst shit ever, the ftms are all awful, the trans girls are all awful apart from one who is a friend of the main one

i like to think 'if only i'd transitioned in my early teens before the T thing happened' but honestly it'd have been hell. ;___;
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>>6111578
>salt and vinegar
ma nigga
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>>6111568
> leaving me in a room with a television.
my mom left me in a room with a math textbook when I was 7, expecting me to learn how to do long division and multiply so I'd look like the smartest kid in the 4th fucking grade.
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>>6111507
I really, really wish I could do more to help you, I wish I knew what to say to comfort you... sorry that I'm so bad at this kind of thing. I honestly thought you were just messing with me yesterday with the trust stuff, didn't realize you were serious.
You're definitely cute though, and I seriously do think you'll become a passing girl in the future. I just hope somebody can help you feel better soon so that you're able to be happy about it when you transition instead of still being so sad :c
I love you like I love everybody here, and I've had a few interactions with you, and that's why I honestly don't want you to kill yourself, okay? So please stay alive, okay?
>>6111508
You don't need to say sorry or thank you to me, you've done nothing wrong and I've done nothing worth being thanked for. If anything, I should say sorry for being weird like I am and not just emailing you.
And I guess I can understand hating yourself, but from my point of view you really shouldn't. I don't think you deserve any bullying, not even a little bit of it - you should be treated kindly and befriend nice people who will make you feel happy. <3
>>6111511
I'm so sorry anon, that must be terrible. I hope you're able to figure out why she did that and I hope she stops hurting you or at least explains herself. It does really suck when stuff reminds you of an ex, but you can't let them take happiness away from you, you know? Happiness is a really finite resource, very precious, and not something you can let go of too easily.
I wish I could offer you better advice on what to do, but the only method I have lately is forcing myself to be happy by laughing at myself and the world, and that's probably just me being insane anyway. Still, try it anon, I'd rather you had *something* to make you happy than nothing, ya know?
>>6111544
Bad parents aren't something you should feel bad about complaining about, and you shouldn't feel bad about posting anything here, really, you're innocent.
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>mom is ordering me pizza
its like she wants me to get fat, she also bought me teal nail polish but I am too much of a coward to put it on
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>>6111578
look likes hot garbage
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>>6111578
>tfw ptsd flashbacks of trying to hold the tears back during that Louis Theroux doc with the super-early-transitioners because my parents and sister were in the room, laughing or acting grossed out every couple of minutes
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>>6110954
So how do you deal with your seething hatred for transphobes? How about we give them a taste of their own doctrine? You know that the world would be more tolerant with them gone. It doesn't help the cause because they want to see us as monsters but I believe it's worth the cost. I would like for them to get a taste of their own pain and hatred that they put forth into the world and remove their corruption from the gene pool. Given my obsessive foresight and the unpredictability of my potential crimes. It would be unlikely that I would ever be caught.
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>>6111591
I hate trannies too.
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>>6111157
ty anon

>>6111147
nice

Im gonna apply to a shitload of government jobs and stuff because I love math and im p good at it and apparently they like that?
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>>6111591
Best thing to do is not think about it. None of us will ever win so the best thing to do is try hard as fuck to pass and blend in as best we can.
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>>6111587
i do need to say sorry
you are talking to me and you dont need to
thats much more than i deserve.
i deserve bullying btw, like all of it that i get and more.
People arent mean enough to me
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>>6111572
Sometimes a distraction is all you need to help you ride out the hard emotion, and once it clears you can see how silly an idea dying is
>>6111573
Yay!
>>6111578
>salt and vinegar
I should have gotten those
the universe punished me for picking Sunchips instead
>>6111591
>Wait for them to die out
>Education
>Make sure to educate everyone around them
>Treat them with respect and kindess, how you'd wanna be treated and whatever
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>>6111588
your mom is bipolar af
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>>6111591
I'm a transphobe tranny
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>>6111603
do you have to take a million selfies? I get it, you look cis, do you need compliments from everyone on it?
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>>6111591
I don't hate transphobes.
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>>6111547
>I just know these things.
A-are you magic?
And I'm not feeling great, my toe's messed up and in a lot of pain, and I went to the store and bought stuff and ever since I got back I've just been feeling bad and wanted to kill myself for a while... I don't know, just general bad mood today, although it's been lightening for a few minutes, so that's good I guess?
>I'm pretty okay I guess!
I'm glad you're pretty okay! :3
>>6111588
D-didn't she drain your remover? I don't understand your mom >~<
But hey, at least she's getting you yummy food and she bought you something girly, that's good right?
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>when ur about to apply for work in the same place and department that your dad worked
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>>6111608
*stabs you in the miss cock*
BACK THE FUCK OFF?!! that's my waifu ur fuckin with
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>>6111590
ha, i should watch that sometime

>>6111589
The Filipina deaf trans girl has this 6'5" asian hon friend with gay man voice who says 'you go girl a lot' its so 2005 lol. the girl keeps referring to herself as a gay man, her mom calls her him all the time. The other trans girl is some sloping shoulders anime autist who touches people inappropriately and is obsessed with DDR but has rich parents who are paying for her srs. the ftms are all proto-tumblr or drag kings in their spare time. it's really cringey
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>>6111574
unsee.cc

/gupediba/

I need to get back into cycling x.x I've been being lazy.
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>>6111614
you should apply to me
Id hire you
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>>6111614
>tfw one of your dad's old coworkers is employed at the same place that you work and he recognizes your name and gets really confused when he sees me until he realized I'm a boy
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>>6111608
kayla thats what happens when you pass, know that you do, and have bdd

you post a lot of pictures and hope that the nice things that people say stick, but they don't so you keep trying

imo anyway

Id probably do the same if I didnt cry whenever people get mad at me and if I was photogenic at all
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>>6111604
yeah i guess it is
but i dont think its a silly idea at all.
>>6111608
1: Don't look cis
2: I take them because I have nothing better to do
3: Some other people like them so if i hate them its okay as long as some people are slightly happy from them
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>>6111621
holy shit
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>>6111614

Oh so you were X's kid?

meet my son "Insert name here" he's around your age!!!
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>>6111607
Then you die for your perpetuation of a bigoted culture.
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who /drinking/ here? what's on tap for tonight?
>>6111508
o-oh that's ok. pomen for asking.
>>6111520
1v1 me anywhere.
>>6111554
that's a good idea
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So am I really that bat shit insane?
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>>6111625
>tfw ywn be phies personal sl-secretary
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>>6111644
about your appearance?
yeah.
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>>6111612
>A-are you magic?
Something like that~.
>And I'm not feeling great, my toe's messed up and in a lot of pain
What happened to it? D:
>and I went to the store and bought stuff and ever since I got back I've just been feeling bad and wanted to kill myself for a while...
Why?
>I don't know, just general bad mood today,
Aww, that's no good, I hope you start feeling better
>although it's been lightening for a few minutes, so that's good I guess?
Ooooh that's exciting! I wish I could be there
>I'm glad you're pretty okay! :3
<3
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>>6111643

I had a cocktail at a Mexican restaurant
Coffee liquer, vodka, and Irish Cream
It was a little strong.
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>>6111648
>tfw ywn redirect some of your workload to your loyal secretary, the efficient elf gem
;~;
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>>6111643
its fine.
>>6111644
yeah.
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>>6111643
Then let's go

>>6111650
But why
I mean I just know how to take decent pics. I look like poo on cam
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>>6111591
I try not to hate people for hating me, because it's just a circle of hatred then and it'll never end that way. Eventually transphobes will die out, whether I fight them or not, so I try not to let it get to me.
>>6111603
>i do need to say sorry
You really don't, you didn't do ANYTHING wrong! >~<
>you are talking to me and you dont need to
I LIKE to, and if I didn't I wouldn't do it! I'm really not that good of a person that I'd go out of my way to talk to somebody I didn't like, so don't worry about "deserving" it and stuffs, okay?
>People arent mean enough to me
I really, really hope you don't believe that, nobody should be mean to you, nobody deserves to be bullied or for people to be mean to them - NOBODY! I hope nobody's mean to you ever again and you meet tons of pleasant, kind people so you never get bullied again either!
>>6111608
>says Kayla as she also passes great
oh you~
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>>6111644
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>tfw I laugh like a hyena

._.
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I don't wanna liiiive
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>>6111625
How are the hours and benefits? Getting to hang around you sounds like a good one.

>>6111626
>realized I'm a boy
Aren't you a girl though?

>>6111637
Oh dear, that just made me even more anxious. All his old coworkers know I'm a tranny though, given I went to his retirement function and they kept asking where his son was. :/
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Anybody want to play a video game online.? I'm exceptionally bored
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>>6111664
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>>6111672
What game?
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>>6111673
Ol'RobinFace is on tv?
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>>6111662
idk i feel like i deserve it.
w/e
im shit.
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>>6111671
>Aren't you a girl though?
Kinda. Not legally tho and I'm employed as a boy so my nametag has boy name.

>>6111675
I don't know. Anything really, I don't really have many games. I just want to kill time until my bf finishes playing diablo and we can play dota
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>>6111671
I-I dont know yet, I need to start a company first.
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>>6111682
You win the narcissism award.
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>>6111679
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>>6111673
me visiting the doctor to ask for my hormones script desu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylkk9XcglW4
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>>6111686
If you started a company id literally probably move to work under you
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>>6111686
Make a company to make robotic bodies for tranny brain transplants

I dont know how polical science would apply to that though
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>>6111651
>Something like that~
O.O
>What happened to it? D:
I can't really tell desu, it's been painted for awhile and then it started hurting yesterday, but my toes do that sometimes so I ignored it. When I woke up it hurt a lot worse so I unpainted it and drowned it in rubbing alcohol. Can't tell if it's got an infection around the nail or if my nail's ingrown in some invisible way or something but I'm mildly scared :/

Moodiness has just been why I wanted to kill myself, but (You) therapy's been helping a lot and I'm feeling less sad lately because I'm able to be nice to people, which I guess is a good thing to be made happy by. ^.^
That's a pretty neat picture btw, I've got a similar view from my dorm window and it's great~
>>6111668
>tfw I laugh like a madMAN
;_;
>>6111670
iktf, but please keep fighting for the sake of the future you that won't mind living!
>>6111682
You're not shit, don't say that about yourself! I like you and I feel like you don't deserve to be treated badly! Not that my opinion trumps your own, but I'm not just gonna sit here and pretend you're right to bully yourself when I feel that's wrong >:/
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>>6111690

did they say yes?
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>>6111668
>tfw have to force a Jimmy Carr laugh otherwise I have a nasally, retarded, adult man laugh
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>>6111688
oh okay.
thanks i guess.
i dont want it though, give it to someone else.
>>6111696
yeah, i feel like i really deserve it.
im not a good person im disgusting.
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>>6111696
>the future you that won't mind living!
I'm not sure virtual reality will be created in my lifetime..
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>>6111693

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGzMfg381Y

>ROBOT BITCH
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>>6111653
nice, i'm trying to figure out what my friend's dad's homebrew stuff is rn. it's nice tho. that cocktail sonds tasty af.
>>6111661
ok you know where to find me, and i dunno you look fine in pics.
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>>6111704
Why do you post the same pics of yourself all the time?
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>>6111702
idk i woke up on the surgery's disabled bathroom floor crying 30 minutes later
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>>6111703

>tfw i just silently laugh

if it makes you feel any better, i know a girl who fucking laughs like a donkey. worse than a man laugh
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>>6111682
ok now I hate you
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>>6111686
>tfw sophie doesn't have a company yet
What do you want to sell or make?

>>6111683
Oh OK, that makes a bit more sense.
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>>6111693
Dream job desu. I want to get my phd in neuroscience for that reason

>>6111708
>ywn get your circuit board brains blown out by a corrupt cop
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> tfw not a Stacy
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https://i.4cdn.org/fa/1461887148825.webm
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>>6111719
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>>6111726
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>>6111712
because i dont have a ton
>>6111717
sorry.
you probably should
im garbage.
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>>6111730
I mean that can't be much worse than being a tranny today and getting your human body beat up and murdered. At least if you're a robot you might have a backup somewhere
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>>6111726
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>>6111720
>tfw ywn even be trutrans
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>>6111730
This scene hurt to watch, felt too close to home.
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>>6111704
>im not a good person im disgusting.
Well *I* think you're a good person and I don't think you're disgusting at all! Why do you hate yourself so much, you're a good person and you really don't deserve this much self-hate desu.
>>6111707
Happiness is pretty much guaranteed to people who don't give up and keep fighting for it. The exceptions are people who die before they become happy, because there's a possibility that death leads to eternal rest instead of eternal bliss. It's still worth it to fight for happiness instead of languishing in misery, you know?
>>6111710
>you look fine in pics.
And you look cute in webms ;3
>>6111717
Please don't bully her Kayla, you have no reason to be jealous of passing girls because you ALSO pass >~<
>>6111740
I watch this episode, like, every week.
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>>6111743
You are not a robot
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>>6111743
>tfw elanna never adds you on skype the next day
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>>6111748
The robot is a metaphor
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>>6111747
ok....
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>>6111718
I want to make money :^)

technically I really wanna get into banking or investment or something along those lines, but I guess without a business degree thats not happening. I also think Id need drugs to be good at things like this. I can do fucktons of stuff on painkillers, but Ive a hard time motivating myself when sober

>>6111692
awwww
<3 <3 <3
Id probably just put you in charge of the american branch tho, so you wouldnt need to come to the old world.

>>6111693
I wish I could ;-;
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I broke up with my cis straight girlfriend

Pic not related, I cried a bunch
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>>6111747
i really don't.....
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>>6111755
>>6111747
i just feel im retarded and pure trash
nothing good about me honestly.
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>>6111754
for fucking what? that AI can go too far and enslave everyone in a dream like matrix where its all meaningless and reality isn't a hugbox?
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>>6111761
robot is to human like tranny is to girl
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>>6111758
How did Edie take it?
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>>6111758

does this mean your going back to the military?
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>>6111747
I'm not bullying her, just being honest about her attention whoring. She passes and calling herself ugly is only a back handed insult to people like me and others who will never pass. You have to be a fucking dick to take a million pics of yourself looking perfectly womanly and then calling yourself ugly in front of people who look worse. Isla is a fucking jerk.
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>>6111758

wait what
>>
Somebody tell me to go come out to my dad, because I feel like I just might do it
>>
>>6111764
She was supportive and kind and she thought me and me ex did it nicely
>>6111765
No this means there won't be anything between me and Edie any more, which I'm glad for
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>>6111730
>"No please, I'm real."
It's fucking deep, mang.
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>>6111766
Jeallously is bad
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>>6111758

How long had you been dating?
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>>6111696
>O.O
Muwahaha~
I'm sorry to hear about your toe, you should see a doctor if it's still hurting like this on Monday.
>Moodiness has just been why I wanted to kill myself
Hey now, stop being all suicidal. The thread would be worse off if you really did do it and I'd never get to make friends with you.
>(You) therapy's been helping a lot and I'm feeling less sad lately because I'm able to be nice to people, which I guess is a good thing to be made happy by. ^.^
Mhm, it is, I'm glad you're finally feeling better~.
>That's a pretty neat picture btw, I've got a similar view from my dorm window and it's great~
You should take a pic and show me, that must be really nice!
I'm gonna take a quick nap, that /fa/ webm triggered me too hard and I just need to lay down for a little bit. I'll talk to you late nicenon, add me on skype or something already <3
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>>6111770
FUCK N'... DOIT, FAGET

There's never a right moment. You just have to pull the trigger and hope you "aimed" well enough.

Assuming he's chill enough to just listen to his child's concerns you have as much time as you need to get him to understand.
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>>6111758
here's your (you)

why don't you tell this to facebook and not a place with virgins like me? I could care less about any of your relationship nonsense since I never even had a kiss before or held a hand and will never know what having a relationship with another human being is like, try being me for a second and realize you never had it bad
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>>6111766
Everyone says I'm ugly and don't pass though either, I just tend to believe them
>>6111770
I wouldn't desu, but show up to his funeral in a nice dress
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>>6111726
kek
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>>6111755
*hugs u*
I like you, so please don't bully yourself okay? Or at least don't hurt yourself or anything, though it's fine to feel sad and stuffs I can't tell anybody not to do that...
>>6111758
F-faye... Are you okay?
>>6111759
You really do, actually~
>>6111760
You're cute, you're fun to talk to even though you're bullying yourself, and you're probably not as socially retarded as I am, so you can't be *pure* trash ;3 I like ya ^-^
>>6111766
Kayla, even if she's attention whoring, it can't be an insult to you because you P A S S fine when you wear makeup and stuff. Eat your pizza and relax, she stopped posting pictures okay?
>>6111770
Come out to your dad, but have someplace to go if you have to, alright? Being honest is good, but being smart is also good.
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>>6111783
>tfw no boobs
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>>6111762
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTLMjHrb_w4

Moral of the story. Cis master race.
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>>6111775
And so is posting pictures of you passing and then calling yourself ugly as a way to shit on people even worse off than you.
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>>6111771
>No this means there won't be anything between me and Edie any more, which I'm glad for
You're going for that?
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>>6111789
don't let it get to you, just be humble and happy...
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>>6111785
I'm ok now, but I cried for like an hour after she said "I just want to be there to support you until you leave (for Portland)"
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>>6111762
>>6111788
THERES NOTHING DEEP ABOUT THIS ITS JUST A PHILIP K DICK STODY T
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>>6111785
>because you P A S S fine when you wear makeup and stuff
bullshit, I am the ugliest one here right next to edgar

>>6111783
>Everyone says I'm ugly and don't pass though either
FUCK YOU, you are full time and pait your finger nails, you can't paint you fucking fingernails unless you pass so you fucking know you pass jerk, just admit it you mother fucking LIAR!
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>>6111789
You know that's an "all women do this" thing, right?
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>>6111792
I'm dating Edie, so yes having a gf I hadn't broken up with yet was an albatross around my neck
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>>6111758
fuckin' finally, now get those surgeries famalamarino
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>>6111798
>Portland)"

How many trannies is gem going to stack there?
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>>6111803
You what mate
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>>6111807
Faye, does Edie like your deep manly voice?
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>>6111761
Metaphor for being trans, >>6111762 gets it

>>6111756
Idk, banking seems like one of those things that people can do by working their way up from teller positions regardless of education, and you're going to have a master's even if it's in a different field. It does sound like high stress work though.

>>6111750
Shit sorry I'm on Skype now, what's your username?
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>>6111779
>you should see a doctor if it's still hurting like this on Monday.
I really should, yeah >~> Thanks for the concern!
I'm a lot less suicidal now, although I don't know how much worse the thread would be without me, I'm sure everybody'd be fine with or without me, I don't really matter that much :/ Thanks though, it feels good to think I might be helping~!
I'd like to be friends with you to, and if I work up the nerve to email Isla I'll add you on the Skype as well - if that's still okay >.>
>You should take a pic and show me, that must be really nice!
Uhm, okay maybe from my phone and maybe when it's lighter out, it's kinda dark now lol.
>>6111782
If you don't mind ugly girls that look like ugly guys because they have no 'mones, I'll fix your virginity problem.
>>6111783
>Everyone says I'm ugly and don't pass
They're lying lol
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>>6111807
You use some interesting idioms Faye. Had never heard this albatross one or your eating crow one from the other day.
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>>6111822
berryloss
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>>6111805
>You know that's an "all women do this" thing, right?
Yeah and guess what, its just as backhanded and mean as them doing it. No reason to do it besides being a fucking jerk for sick kicks.
"oh im so ulgy, I only ride in brand new cars, never have to break a sweat, and I get to wear makeup in public, I am such a man like you people with beards don't know how hard it is to wear lip gloss and have people get doors for you because you are so girly, ugh its so hard being prettyugly"

god damn am I the only one that is mad at this shit ???????????
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>>6111803
Note to self: do not consume estrogen.
I'm already prone to self hate. I don't want more.
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>>6111827
thes the rime of the ancient mariner, it's classic poetry
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>>6111802
The scenes were literally allusions to famous war crimes and civil rights movement pictures and videos.

The end of the acronym lgbt is still dealing with civil rights and is sometimes met with violence and murder when they're outed for what they are.

>>6111814
The west coast is such a fucking meme but I imagine it's more accepting than the midwest. I wonder how badly my regular customers will react when it starts to become abundantly apparent what's happening to me. The choice people I've come out to have been overwhelmingly positive and I feel most of them are easily swayed by whatever opinions the TV wants them to hold but I'm sure there's plenty with deep, religious roots who will be ready to call me a faggot. I think I already get smirks for wearing skinny jeans, having longish hair and giving into girly mannerisms.
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>>6111818
https://clyp.it/ruq3ohqt
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>>6111814
>stack
I havent played tetris in years m8

what do you mean though?
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>>6111766
sorry but im not a jerk.
you can filter me and ignore my pictures.
Its not an insult, i just hate myself.
>>6111785
nah, i like bullying myself.
kayle likes to 'bully' me by attacking me so i just accept it
i deserve more bullying.
>>6111832
only two other people.
I don't think im girly, i don't wear makeup, i do have to break a sweat.
life sucks for me, being attractive doesn't mean everything like you think it does.
I dont even think im attractive.
oh well.
sorry kayla.
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>>6111841
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I FUCKING HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>6111832
You're still above all the no hrt closet cases
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>>6111832
>god damn am I the only one that is mad at this shit
no
I'm just not very aggressive and I know my own judgement is fallible, and I end up concluding maybe they have everything and yet genuinely still feel like shit, because trannyism is a mental illness

I don't doubt at least some of the people who do it really are humblebragging though, it's just hard/impossible to tell which is which
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>>6111849
bullshit, I have fucking facial hair and fucked up boobs and scars all over

>>6111844
>I dont even think im attractive.
Yes you do, or you would be like me and never try to go outside. Yet here you are constantly taking pictures of yourself in public clearly showing you do not hate yourself. You are a fucking jerk.
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>>6111822
metaphors are dumb

>>6111837
I don't like the humanization of robots and take it a bit seriously because it goes deeper than that into abou freewill and some stories I read such at the book blood and iron which got inresting and talked a bit abou tthe relaitonship between machinery and what is organic..
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>>6111785
i really don't you posted the proof.
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>>6111832
What does being mad about the world even do? It's not changing or fixing anything.

>>6111852
> they have everything and yet genuinely still feel like shit

They have everything proportionate. Many others have things better and there are people in worse spots as well. You can't say that someone should be happy because they have x, otherwise your happiness is invalid because of someone in a worse position.

The thing is everyone has life struggles and we're all here because we're insecure and need encouragement to move forward in the thing we found that we need to do for our lives. It's pointless to try to tear others down.
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>>6111852
>it's just hard/impossible to tell which is which
No its not. LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU. People who pass pass, if they post pics where they look like women, guess what, they pass and live as women and therefore don't have it hard as someone like me hating myself in a dark room all day.
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>>6111798
I'm glad you're doing okay now, sorry you were crying earlier :c She seems really nice to still want to be there for you until you leave, though I don't know how you feel about it so I shouldn't really say anything lol
>>6111803
>I am the ugliest one here right next to edgar
Deadnaming is mean even though Robin still does it to herself :/
Oh, and it's not bullshit, you're literally delusional if you think you're ugly at all, let alone the ugliest one here. I'm pretty sure you regularly fail boymode, now that I think about it, so bullying yourself like this is sorta insulting to those who *truly* don't pass.
Not that I'm criticizing you, I like you, but pls don't bully yourself any more than this.
>>6111814
I'm seriously considering going there as well, so you might as well throw me into the tranny stack~
>>6111844
>nah, i like bullying myself.
Well I don't think you deserve it, but if it makes you happy I guess it's okay!? I just don't want you to get hurt I guess, and if you somehow like it then I don't want to tell you that things you like are bad... Just, like, don't hurt yourself, you don't deserve to get hurt okay?
>>6111860
No, I posted the proof that you ARE cute, silly! You really are, I'm pretty sure you're just being stubborn or Kayla at this point.
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>>6111841
This girl voice shit is spooky how the fuck do you people do it.
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>>6111858
>calling a frequently used literary device dumb
W h y
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>>6111861
>It's not changing or fixing anything.
I can't change or fix myself so why should I not be full of hate for everyone better off than me? Fuck you and your hon logic. I will never pass so instead of lie to myself like YOU do I deal with it the right way by trying to make people who have great lives feel bad for it because fuck them for being happy, fucking fuck them in their rotten souls for being able to be a girl and transition like I never will be able to. Why should any of them be happy while I am miserable???
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>>6111862
kayla you seem like a blast to hang out with
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>>6111866
https://clyp.it/2htfscnl
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>>6111871
I haven't hung out with another human in over several years. I hide myself from the world because of my ugly face. That's why I get angry at people for calling themselves ugly because they aren't or else they wouldn't be bragging about all the neat places they are allowed to go.
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>>6111870
You really need to leave your room more often. It's absolutely awful for your psyche to be under mental house arrest like you are. Especially when you have a bad of a place as a tranny general as a main outlet.

>>6111871
I would hang out with her. But I think I get along with people relatively easily since I'm such a push over and passive person.
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>>6111855
I do hate myself.
Stop bullying me kayla.
I only go out in public once a week at maximum and take pictures for other people.
I do hate myself and you don't get to decide that for me.
I want to be firends with you and do your nails and talk to you.
but yeah, i do sit in my room all day.
yeah, i have no irl friends.
yeah i hate my life.
passing isn't hard but the rest of life is.
we could be friends, we are similar.
emotionally that is.
We could hang out, we could be friends.
I don't get to go anywhere neat other than therapy.
Email me [email protected]
i think we could be friends.
>>6111865
i need someone to show me affection and love irl.
its too far out of reach though
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>>6111880
>You really need to leave your room more often.
I don't pass so how can I? Don't you fucking get it? Only the pretty can live. I have to suffer in the dark because I don't look or sound like the pretty people.
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you girls make me really appreciate testosterone sometimes.

Fuck being an emotional wreck 24/7
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>>6111877
hmm that's interesting
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>>6111870
>I can't change or fix myself so why should I not be full of hate for everyone better off than me? Fuck you and your hon logic.

There very obviously are things you can do and many people here have told you them time and time again.

> I will never pass so instead of lie to myself like YOU do I deal with it the right way

Oh cool is this one of those days where you say I don't pass again? I thought I was bullying you the other day with my ability to pass while you can't?

You reap what you sow and if all you do is cause misery, it's all life will give you in return.
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>>6111868
autism lol. also it relies on manipulation of already preconceived notions jesus I can't debate at this and have no idea what I'm talking about... like, the scene from the animation. as >>6111837 mentioned, they're allusions to already established scenes from irl and are about sympathy of the lesser or those that are weak. might does make right, so when the robots rebel with their own armies and such when is it relevant? it was literally a scene with a sex bot that responds to emoitons the way it was programed to. unless we can prove AI and machines having their own voice or greater goal they hope to achieve in this life its just another animation to me. sure it has meaning but it depends who is looking at it in what way..
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>>6111870
Kayla you're miserable because you deluded yourself (or were deluded by somebody else) into thinking that you're an ugly manfaced hon who will never pass. This is further from the truth than Hailey's Comet is from Earth, stop being so silly.
>>6111875
T-that's amazing o.o
>>6111877
You don't have an ugly face, and I would totally hang out with you if I had the money to visit you. And like, if I lived nearby, and you'd let me visit and promise not to shoot me ;3
>>6111883
>i need someone to show me affection and love irl.
I wish I was a real person, I'd show you affection and love! N-not romantically, more as a friend, but still!
Hope you find the partner you're looking for soon, you really do deserve to be loved and affection'd more than you deserve to be bullied.
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>>6111887
oh I was an emotional wreck 24/7 before hormones
estrogen just makes it harder to hide
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>>6111891
You pass but only because you are privileged enough to live. Try being ugly and poor and see how impossible it is to survive in america. You never had a day with out a dime in your pocket so don't go bitching to me.
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>>6111862
>hating myself in a dark room all day

i have a gf and a job and am full time fem, but most days i hate myself and i wake up at 1pm and i'm a piece of shit, i don't pass and my job pays terribly and is unreliable and i'm poor and live with my parents until my gf moves to Denver and i can move in
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>>6111896
>You don't have an ugly face
Yes I fucking do, I am a hairy monster and I can;t even afford electrolysis.
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>>6111903
Kayla please stop being manipulative like your mother. its not attractive.
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>>6111887
I was angry and bitter before hrt and now i'm angry and bitter too, i've probably taken sugar pills all this time.

>tfw hrt didn't change me one bit
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Did someone keep track of how many days it took Kayla to act like her usual self again?
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>>6111897
So am I but it is quickly buried and repressed by the fast application of T rage. I have a easy disconnect that seperates me from my emotions.

I think with enough time here. I Can vent enough bad energy to repress fully again and repair my manhood.
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>>6111903
>You never had a day with out a dime in your pocket so don't go bitching to me.

I mean, don't you constantly talk about how much money you've always had? How much you earned for your family and how you are able to live off it easy?

>>6111908
You even said you had been to multiple electro appointments like 2 weeks ago when you were explaining how painless it is.

>>6111916
I didn't think it would be this long desu.
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>>6111907
>i have a gf and a job and am full time fem
you don't know what hurt or pain is, its never having half of what you are blessed to have
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>>6111908

you can make your own wax. super cheap and while its not perm itll help

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Hair-Removal-Wax-at-Home
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>>6111896
urk
thank you
im gonna talk to my most loved one soon
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>>6111887
Lurking here makes me appreciate that I'm a woman with hormonal imbalances because I've never gotten to enjoy the wonders of estrogen psychopathy
Fuck at least I can be rational, I'm so glad I got a testosterone storm in the womb
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>>6111913
same

>>6111919
>I mean, don't you constantly talk about how much money you've always had?
No I am poor and no I had only 2 electrolysis sessions in my life and I NEED many more but i cant afford it.
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>>6111926
>estrogen changes anything
Nice meme.
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>>6111862
>if they post pics where they look like women
what about tricksy angles and lighting like almost all of Faye's pics (just an example, rest of thread, don't flip out)
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>>6111918
>I think with enough time here. I Can vent enough bad energy to repress fully again and repair my manhood.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>6111926
ftm? what else have you learned/concluded from your time here in mtfg?
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>>6111922
My face can't take waxing, I tried.
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>>6111885
Relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypkv0HeUvTc

At some point we have to accept what we are. We're ugly and awkward and weird and a subgroup and in general just outlying freaks.

And all the people walking around that we meet aren't as pretty as the people on TV. You should remember that if you've worked a customer-facing job before.

Worst case scenario a stranger murders us and puts us out of our misery. Second worst case scenario everyone points and laughs at the tranny freak and that's just confirming how you already feel.

So really, the worst case scenarios aren't all that bad. And we haven't even thought of the good scenarios!
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>tfw still can't make my voice sound like a girl's no matter what I do, even for a few seconds
>tfw still sound like a gay retarded Louis Theroux
I feel so ashamed of myself for everything I am
time for more weed
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>>6111865
i just don't see what you do.i see a fucking cromag manly fuck.
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>>6111933
>what about tricksy angles and lighting like almost all of Faye's pics
What about the fact faye takes pics in public with painted nails? She passes because of that, or what about the face she is dating the most sinister and vapid evil creature to have ever lived? Its only because her looks she is able to have any semblance of a normal life and I hate her for it.
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>>6111907
haha wow if you can have a job and everything and are still living with your parents then I really AM fucked after uni
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>>6111932
There's a reason most women are emotional and have crazy mood shifts, which is often related to periods and estrogen\progesterone levels
So yes, it does change things
I for one don't even get periods so I'm free of pre-menstruation shitfits, but looking at other women in my family estrogens makes your emotional state less stable
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>>6111913
I'm bipolar manic depressive.

HRT won't be able to destroy Spartan. My body is gonna eat those anti androgens and estrogen and turn them to pure testosterone fuelled fury. Just you wait.

Spartan isn't who I am, Spartan took over who I am. I am Anon... Spartan is a fuckin spirit brah.
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>>6111892
But that's the point, given the value of allegory and metaphor is that they directly allow the person experiencing the piece to associate the work with their own meaning. A person involved in the civil rights movement might directly associate that scene with their own experiences of racism, and a tranny might extract their own meaning from that scene. On a literal level it's a sexbot being beaten down because they're a robot, to me I'm projecting my own experiences as a minority onto that robot (being murdered for not being "real"), and it's painful to watch for that reason.
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>>6111926
True like when I go off estrogen for a bit, that drop makes me go crazy, it made me realize how real hormones swings are
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>>6111942
Thats not true at all for most trans people on 4chan, most of them are young and pretty and skinny and have flawless skin and who never get weird looks, I mean look at all their fucking pictures and voice samples and tell me they are male in any way?
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>>6111946
senpai caddy went fulltime like as soon as she started hormones or something, dressing like a girl in public doesn't mean you pass

(and I'm not saying Faye doesn't pass, I'd sacrifice my entire family 3 generations wide to look like that)
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>>6111950
I dunno, i've taken hrt for three years and I haven't noticed anything.

s u g a r p i l l s
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>>6111921
its easy to cherry pick but i've made maybe $50 the last week? i have had one shift. it's frustrating. my family misgender me and i'm a joke. laser isn't working, i can't get electro in my town as the salon that does it is shit and treats me like a dude. my gf is miles away from me. i dress like lily, i look like an androgynous dyke and my hair looks like guys hair. without my boo i'd have gone crazy or detransed by now, she's my rock, being a weird looking androblob in a rural hick town, like i've had no trouble but i stand out a lot and the fact i'm working or stay inside a lot kinda cuts the chances i get my head stomped in by poles or syrians.

it's all relative senpai
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>>6111958
She was fulltime before HRT iirc.

The thing is she wants to instantly pass 100% and flawlessly and never have that awkward learning month or two after going full time.
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>>6111937
Not exactly ftm, although I'm honestly manfaced and if I was a transwoman you'd say I couldn't pass to save my life, so I'd probably have a better time ignoring the fact I'm mostly a woman and go full man
But besides this, I've learned there's a lot of drama here? That's the main thing I've noticed
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>>6111943
Only Americans can get a female voice.

No UK tranny has ever done successful voice training
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>>6111958
Caddy passed before hrt and doesn't come here because she is never lonely because she passes. Even your filthy fucking ass is starting to out pass me.
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>>6111965
First she being Caddy second being Kayla.
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>>6111710
Yeah in pics but not on cam
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>>6111959
Did you notice changes in your body shape and fat distribution? Maybe it's not enough to counter your natural production of testosterone. Have you tried facing this with your doctor, maybe change dosage? I'm not familiar with how HRT works honestly, although I'd be curious
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>>6111831
Oh and added
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>>6111967
>not ftm
oh, my bad.
and yes
mtfg knows drama
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>>6111948
i work between 4 and 24 hours a week min wage because zero hours contract senpai, all hail or conservative pro-business overlords

>>6111958
Caddy went full time like 9 months before mones.
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>>6111971
>because she is never lonely
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>>6111960
But you are intersex so besides all your short comings you will always be better than me always, its in your fucking DNA, you are basically a cis woman so how could you complain.
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>>6111971
Kayla when me and my catboy fwb fucked the other night he told me I have the cleanest, most hygienic ass he's ever seen, fuck you and your assumptions, I have a rigorous whole-body personal hygiene regimen. How often do you wash out your bellybutton?
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>>6111974
you passed in tinychat
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>>6111935
It was a lot worst the time I got here the first time. But the fears of turning into some of the girls here has rekindled a admiration and respect for my stoic male self and made me realise. The pain of transition is more painful than the pain of repression. And repression in old age either doesn't fail unless your AGP.
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>>6111983
The second caddy finished electrolysis she got a BF. I talked to caddy on skype for a while and her fucking dad paid for her new car cash and all here electrolysis up front, because she was spoiled her life turned out good.
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>>6111946
I'm dating her because she's my equal in a lot of ways. She insanely smart, funny, social, and caring. Her iq and eq are through the roof and every time I talk to her it's a joy
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>>6111977
I dunno, I just look like a man desu.

My dosage is fine.
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>>6111981
god I'm terrifeid I'm fucking terrfieid I don't want to go back to my parents house it's ffocuking torture
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>>6111992
yea, sorry...more luck if anything
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>>6111996
She is spoiled, narcissistic, mean spirited, and wealthy. No wonder you two hit it off.
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>tfw you just wanna talk about life and stuff with your friends on mtfg but it's kayla shitposting hour
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>>6111965
>>that awkward learning month or two
>tfw even if my face etc. magically get fixed it's probably going to be more like two or three years for me because autism
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>>6111908
Hair is bad, but you've been without it in some pictures I've seen so just do whatever you did then, you know? Even if you have to take the time to pluck each individual hair, do it! It's better than being miserable and hating yourself :c
>>6111925
I hope they make you feel better, glad that there's somebody who'll probably be able to! c:
>>6111943
Everybody sounds like a gay retard at first, it takes time and training to get a passing voice. You'll be able to do it eventually, good luck!
>>6111945
I mean, yeah I can see manly features, but they look like they're on a girl desu. Maybe we can meet in the middle and call you androgynous? ;3
>>6111948
Get autism bux to help you out
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>>6111984
no-one is gonna dna test me before they smash my teeth out, plus most ppl in the uk don't know what intersex is, i talked to a guy who thought it meant nonbinary which honestly was cringeworthy

i can complain because my life sucks apart from one person who i love
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>>6111956
Plenty of them look awful for months.
You need to stop cherry picking.

Plus did you think that maybe the only people sharing are the 10% who have the confidence and beauty to pull it off?

A good chunk of us are still anonymous for reasons.

My skin is about the same level as Grace's is right now. Assuming she's wearing a little bit of concealer as well. Which is to say I'm not perfect either but I know things are improving and I have to remain positive.

>young and pretty
We're old, Special K. Starting at 25 isn't going to give us our teenage years back unfortunately. We just have to move forward and try to better ourselves.
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>>6111980
Why is that though? I also lurk other generals but this being the most active I often end up here, I've never seen anything like the atmosphere here
From an "outsider's " point of view, it seems like a textual soap opera, also you apparently know each other at least as internet acquaintances? Is this correct? I also lurk /ftmg/ sometimes and there isn't as much tripfagging and intricate plots as here
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>>6111992
>tfw going to have to spend 4/5ths of my life savings on laser and electro alone, putting me pretty much back to square one regarding FFS money
yeah okay I've gotta admit that one stings a lot
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>>6111999
>more luck if anything
luck doesn't have anything to do with it, its all about parents wealth. Look at you, your daddy is some board member of a huge company so you get to trot the globe on his dime without worrying where your next meal will come.
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>>6112002
I-I'll be your friend, I like talking about stuff!
>>6112003
Autism doesn't need to stop you I guess, just find a friend or something that'll help you handle all the stuff you can't handle on your own.
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>>6112012
not as much as the electrolysis will

ha ha ha :')
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>>6112007
i'm not andro tho. i'm 100% dude.
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>>6112012
>yeah okay I've gotta admit that one stings a lot
great, only got one person to admit it so far

>>6112009
>We just have to move forward and try to better ourselves.
How? My youth is gone, my best years spent alone and crying. I have nothing left.
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>>6112007
>autismbux
currently applying, but given the current Tory regime here in the UK is forcing people with terminal cancer and < 6 months to live back into work and taking bux away from people bedridden with anxiety and schizo-based agoraphobia, I doubt they'll look kindly on me. Just ask Titchbits or Carol how bad it is atm.

also I literally cannot feel the muscles you have to use to change the resonance of your voice, as in, I have brain damage, I can't feel most of my right arm either. literally numb.
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>>6112012
>tfw want to early retirement
>tfw crunched the math and it seemed almost do-able if I really buckled down and didn't spend any
>tfw realized you still wouldn't be happy without transitioning
>tfw barely keeping money in your bank account floating at your $2000 self-constrained minimum now because of transitioning expenses
It's a good thing I accepted long ago I'm never going to get to stop working.

>>6112019
You're a cute dude though. I bet the gay guys flirt with you all the time and want to grope your chest.
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>>6111997
Can't give you much advice since I'm not a doctor, but maybe you should discuss this with whoever prescribed you the dosages. I understand estrogen is weaker compared to T so it takes longer to take effect.. still, 3 years should be enough for some change. Not saying it will make your face look like Audrey Hepburn but it should be enough to redistribute your fat and influence your mood
Or maybe you're so used to seeing your own body\face that you can't notice much change an outside observer would, either that or judge yourself very harshly
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When you have both kayla and edgar filtered these threads become pretty empty
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>>6112016
kek I'm gonna need actual anesthetic, some places do that right?
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Isla started all of this btw with her attention whoring
I'm going to smash my computer into a million little bits so I wont come back here to subject myself to this kind of self abuse seeing you happy people go from male to female while I have to be stuck as some in between freak forever. Fuck you Isla.
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>>6112014
You're just going after everyone now damn.

>>6112010
Yeah most everyone has an idea of who's around and that's why there's certain cliques and certain animosities etc. It's a weird place but feeling like I'm involved in something I guess is why I come back as well.


>>6112016
RIP

(It hurt so bad I'm glad laser is working out for me)

>>6112026
Yes my place offered Lidocane.
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>>6112014
You're right. Its not like I lack initiative and don't know what I'm doing. I should give him a call and ask how mom is.

>>6112028
Kayla please don't..
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>>6112022
not really. i'm an ugly dude. i don't see it at all. like realy nobody really would wanna be with me unless they were fucking desperate af after they see me irl.
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>>6112020
Plenty of people still do interesting shit in their 20's. Unfortunately we have to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and accept we're not getting the ball really rolling until we're in our 30's.

Only the lucky ones get to keep their life moving forward while they transition. I think a lot of trans people have life stagnation. Either because of depression or because of difficulties continuing while they transition. We're playing with a handicap. Consider yourself lucky you at least have a useless degree, I guess. I didn't even manage to get that far.
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>>6112015
:) okay! Did you do anything exciting today anon?

>>6112025
Its annoying desu
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>>6112029
Unrelated and retarded
But "Lidocane" means literally "beachdog" in my native language
I chuckled
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>>6112010
some of us spend a lot of time here, and also communicate offboard, meet in reallife, date or play games online with each other. makes sense because some, or most dont really have the fortitude or stamina to talk to normies. especially since trannies (at least those that tend to stay here) tend to suffer from (other) mental illnesses, so its easier to find someone to relate to.
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>>6112026
electrolysis in the uk is mainly done at beauty salons so no, they can't give painkillers. most laser places can't either, you'll need to buy and take your own, or see a doctor, ask and explain and hope they'll give you some, idk
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>>6112024
I look like this with long hair.
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>>6112036
If my dick still worked on command like it used to do I'd pity fuck you, pleb.
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>>6112044

how much does electrolysis hurt compared to laser?
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>>6112041
I wish I could cook.
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>>6112044
what about if it's done at an actual cosmetic clinic? there's a couple in norwich.
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>>6112042
That is silly. Does that language do like combinations of partial words = larger words, otherwise I'm just really confused how and in what way 'beachdog' became a normal word.
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>>6112050
cooking is FUN

>>6112043
I've met so many mtfs in other boards on 4chan. I know four from /vg/ alone
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>>6112019
You're on the femboy/tranny border I guess, cute either way. *headpats*
>>6112021
I still don't know what tories are, I keep picturing birds because I'm a fucking weeb. Anyway, I hope your shit government gets its shit together soon, the only things that excuse bongistan's oppressive laws are its social services.
That really sucks about your nerves though, I'm sorry ;_; I hope you're able to learn how to do your voice regardless, or if not that you're able to befriend nice people who are understanding about that kind of thing.
>>6112040
Not really! I woke up at like, 3pm, got food and felt like crying the whole way to the store and back because my toe hurts, and I fell on the stairs on the way back to my dorm! Other than that, I guess I've been having fun talking with the girls here lol.
How about you?
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>>6112045
>tfw have this bone structure (albeit with pale girly skin stretched over it)
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>>6112052
Obviously it does.
cane is probably dog, from canis.
lano is probably from a germanic origin, like lago.
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>>6112028

kayla you really are not that far from passing. honestly

there is always going to be someone who is fitter, better-looking, smarter, etc. than you. we just have to do the best that we can
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>>6112048
i'm a pussy bitch, they hurt the same but electro hurts more as sessions are longer and you need more of them
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>>6112043
>meet in reallife
>tfw never know this feel
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>>6112054
The Tories is the nickname for the Conservative Party, the party currently in government. They're one of the country's oldest political parties and basically represent neoliberals and the aristrocracy. They keep privatising our public services e.g. the NHS and cutting services for vulnerable people despite letting massive corporate tax evasion slide.
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>tfw the dysphoria is actually fading each day
I think in the morning I'm going to wake up as Spartan and it's going to stay that way.

I think whatever aspect of my mental illness was active has moved on and receded. Please let me wake up tommrow and have this all have been a bad dream.
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>>6112055
iktf except my skin is manly and gross.
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>>6112051
they can't prescribe anything or give you anything you donut, they might have a paracetamol/painkilling cream but it's best to buy cocodemol over the counter
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>>6112056
My bad just was making conversation x.x
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>>6112045
And I look like this with human features
As I said, you won't notice much in your face, look at your body to see if it did anything
If it did absolutely zero changes then there's something off
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>>6112053
I watched the movie Chef last night. It made me wish I could cook or really just wish I was good at/passionate about anything in my life.
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>>6112061
>someone emailed me and asked if I wanted to meet
>said sure and sent her my pic
>still haven't heard back from her over a month later after sending a pic of myself to her
w/e I'll get used to it I guess
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>>6112054
Aww poor toe ;_; make sure you rest it!

I went out to a play with my mom for her birthday, it was so good!! And then I came back and am kinda doing nothing but reading this ballroom dancing manga.
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>>6112007
i hope they do too
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>>6112010
I don't know. I've only been here for like ~9 months.

I think its a combination of:
>age/general immaturity
>insecurity about attractiveness/appearance
>transition being stressful
>social isolation which leads to this being the main social gateway
>loneliness
>co-morbid mental illnesses/personality disorders

And a lot of people tend to move on after awhile so there's a constant influx of new people repeating the same cycle
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>>6112066
Nah, that's fine. I'm curious what Anon's language was though. I'm a spaz and realized it wasn't lano but lido. Probably same source though.Also apparently the lago I was thinking of -is- Romantic in origin, not Germanic.

Shows what a wannabe linguistic I am.
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>>6112070
>tfw met a few trips from another board

it was by accident though, but thats just life. one big accident with accidents here and there..
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>>6112063

see a fucking therapist. this is not something that just goes away. why do you think there are so many hons
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>>6112075
>And a lot of people tend to move on after awhile
Heh jokes on you I've been here for years!

>>6112069
Mmm i dunno anon, cooking isn't too hard to learn these days. There's so many cooking/recipe websites and blogs out there to get the basics down. And it's the best hobby because you get to eat it when you're done
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>>6112061
>>6112061
I dunno Ive met...
mhhh
3 I think.
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>>6112052
Beachdog means nothing in my language, it's just that Lido=beach and cane=dog, so to me it looked like someone took a med\whatever it is named "Beachdog"
>>6112056
You're wrong on the "lano" part, which means fucking nothing
Lido is still a Latin derivative, from "litus", namely "beach", quite literally
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>>6112067
I have boobs that I can't hide without a jacket and it's summer now so I look like a manly man with boobs.

Kill me
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i havent even posted i just play fucking video games
hi mtfg
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>>6112075
I think a lot of that is just 4chan in general.
This site attracts the marginalized, self-hating loners and subcultures a lot.

Tack on the second puberty of being trans and the unhealthy atmosphere of a 24/7 general and I think that gets you close to the culture and atmosphere here.
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Did it ever just hit you that other trans girls are just so boring? Maybe thats why I'm coming here less and less recently.
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>>6112065
noted
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>>6112087
If you feel you need to go full boymode due to unpassingness, try a sports bra, they do wonders for boobs
I have no boobs whatsoever so I can't speak for personal experiences, but my aunt does, and always wears sports bra in the summer because she's embarrassed by her massive chest, they really hide most of it if they're tight enough
Either that or a binder, but binders smash your ribcage afaik
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>>6112095
We have no drama anymore, which is fine
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>>6112087
>tfw iktf
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>>6112062
They sound pretty terrible, although I imagine that they were put in power largely as a result of massive immigration, am I wrong? I hope they just do whatever good things they're supposed to do and then fuck off and stop bullying severely disabled people that legitimately need the help.
>>6112071
I'm doing my best!
Aww, that's good of you! Good girls do things with their moms ^.^ I hope you enjoy your manga, I'd ask for the name but I have a huge backlog to go through first lol.
>>6112074
<3 Feel better Isla
>>6112087
You can't do anything about it, so just own it! Use makeup and stuffs to look as feminine as you can (within reason don't be a drag queen) and other than that, just be you! Your opinion of yourself matters more than anybody else's, so if you push yourself to think that you're good, then you're good!
>>6112092
H-hi froggy!
>>6112095
I'm boring! I'm also a fake and terrible person!! I love coming here!!!
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>>6112095
More interesting than cis, never heard an interesting come out of a females mouth desu.
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>>6112079
I know but I'm fucking bipolar.

I go from "fuck yeah you're a man. No one fucks with you. LETS BREAK A NEW PERSONAL RECORD"

To "why am I not a girl. I hate my muscles, kill me , I want to be feminine and cute, I hate being a man-NONONO FUCK THIS FAGGOTRY STOP THOSE THOUGHTS NOW"
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>>6112076
My language is Italian, and as I stated in another reply post, "lido" has Latin roots from "Litus"
I studied Latin for years so if you're curious about something ask away
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>>6112100
hi anon
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>>6112101
>>6112101
*highfive*

>imagelimit
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>>6112102
You sound like the perfect candidate for a lobotomy.
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>>6112108
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>>6112100
Awwh thank you :) I do love my mom, I think I need to put some distance between her and me because I feel like I can't push myself the rest of my way through transition while she's such a huge figure in my life, but I like to spend time with her when I can
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>>6112102

SEE A THERAPIST

that's not meant as an insult or a joke or some shitty bait

they will be able to help you more than this board or anyone else. they can help you make sense of your identity

also isnt it time for a new thread
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>>6112047
i doubt it desu. like i look rly bad.
>>6112054
nah i wash i was. i'm hon status.
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>>6112100
Nope, nothing to do with immigration, it's all cuts to reduce the state debt caused by the recession. Apparently protecting the citizens is lower priority than protecting their friends in big business.
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>>6112102
thats not bipolar you fuckwad, that's repression, dysphoria and self backfiring misogyny.
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