Mtfg life eh edition

Daily reminder that if you were not able to pass
before HRT, you will never pass after HRT.

>>6075774
Quality meme

>>6075771
ty mado ily
>>6075774
U need to stahp.

>>6075774
this is the sad truth
but then what do we do?

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transbian thread btw
straights get out
kill all men desu
valerie solanas is my waifu

daily reminder that aenagaeanip,lk.gi

>>6075787
become one with the hon

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>>6075774
Mostly true t b h

>>6075774
That's not true though I've seen time lines that show different

I'm watching the network.
I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore.

>>6075774
finally someone is dropping the truth bomb on you hon niggers

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A week break wasn't long enough from this place.
People are already making asses of themselves for real.
also fucking hate sports bras.
they are uncomfy and make my chest look smaller >:[

>>6075774
n-no please. please no!!!

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>>6075786
<3
>>6075789
Kek

>>6075791
daily reminder you are a show off and like making people feel bad

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>>6075790
Tru trans thread now.
Transbians get out reeeeee

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Nth for life being "eh"

>>6075795
You've seen some edited and/or manipulative, deceptive bullshit.

>>6075797

I'm hon as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore.

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>>6075783
I'm trying to reflect all of it onto myself. I am the one who deserves it.

So when i feel jealously towards others. I just think.

"See why I don't have that? Because I fail. Because I am not good enough. Fuck myself"

>>6075774
i got treated like a woman and called ma'am a few times before hrt while in girlmode, does that count?

>>6075774
Hate this meme.

I'd Kayla docile again?

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>>6075798

>>6075799
Explain those shoulders. Holy fuck.

>>6075807
this
it's just le angles, poor lighting and low resolution

t. professional poor lighting, low resolution anglerer

>>6075799
fuck you, just leave forever because all you do is show off how well you pass to make others feel bad

>>6075803
nah

>>6075807
>>6075815
this

>>6075799
>tfw prefer sports bras
>>6075806
Will life always be that way though?

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My ottermode body is nearly a skinny skelington body after just 2 weeks of not training/starving myself.
I am feeling a massive amount of regret like "holy fuck, what the fuck am I doing!!!! I was an attractive male!! ".

>>6075810
she doesn't
are you retarded?

i bet you actually look like a man

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>>6075806
Fucking Canadian.
>>6075810
Thanks.
You seem to be one of the few that has this opinion. Give me tips please?
Since you probably look better.
>>6075814
Broken shoulder blades, father fucked them up when I was little, forced my body into overdoing sports, and the blades popped out and fucked up.
Also this is supposed to be a "weh i dont pass" image.
>>6075816
I don't always show this off, i dont always pass either.
>>6075821
IT MAKES ME FEEL SMALL CHESTED REEE

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>>6075807
No I think they just put a lot of effort into making changes and in the end got lucky
>>6075806
Ehh
>>6075818
Keku

>>6075799
why do you wear a sports bra? you look like a woman already

>>6075774
oh im fine then
>>6075799
you cute. drop trip or add nice the ones on skype

>>6075825
That may be why I prefer them. My boobs are rather large for my frame and stuff.
>tfw no sex despite wanting mega milks

>>6075799
Really? I love sports bras. They just keep everything snug and in place while you're running. Do love running, though.

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I will never be as cute as posters like Red and Elanna though...
Thats true

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>>6075825
hi little puppy girl!!!
>>6075799
oh my god you're a beautiful little doll

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>>6075774
There's truth to that. People always instinctively gendered me female even back when I was actually trying to pass as a guy. Of course, there are other things that helped me reliably pass as a woman all the time, but HRT helped me more on the inside than on the outside. Being off HRT sucks. Thankfully, I won't need cypro at all anymore in just a couple weeks.

>>6075835
>red being creepy again

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>>6075825
u and me irl

>>6075799
cis trolls reeeeeeee

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>>6075821
>Will life always be that way though?
Yes. Adult life is bland and uneventful with occasional good bits.

>>6075827
Ehh

>>6075825
What are you talking aboot, come sit on my chesterfield and we can have some brewskies eh?

>>6075804
>Trutrans
>Talks about crossdressing
Bad bait is bad.

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>>6075843
Ehhh

Feeling urge to repress and never ever come back here

>>6075848
do it
being trans is stupid

>>6075843
I always tell people that I'm only an adult because my drivers license says so. Then again it says I'm a man though.
How's being out of school treating you?

>>6075823
Tell that to my biceps.

THE URGE TO LIFT IS KILLING ME

>>6075848
See you in ten years hun.

>>6075845
Is it really crossdressing if I wanted to be a girl?

>>6075807
My timeline is rather honest, but that only makes it more confusing. I guess that's how the rumour about my being a detransitioned FtM started out...

seems like all of you are either insanely mean or ultra ugly and depressed

really looks like transition is a farce

>>6075859
Nobody thinks that

>>6075860
lets see you, anon

>>6075848
Don't do it. I tryed that for four years. It never goes away, it just gets worse.

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well this thread sucks bye

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>>6075833
THEY SLIGHTLY CHAFE AND PRESS TOO HARD AGAINST MY NEWLY DEVELOPING CHEST
They hurt ._.
>>6075832
:c
But, oh well, its whatever.
>>6075835
Haiiiii <3
How are you?
Thanks >_<
>>6075829
Im a b-cup so I need some form of bra.
Issue is, those are the only ones I have.
>>6075831
I have an unusual desire to shitpost that cannot be sated.
I must use this website obviously.
>>6075837
Ahh, fair enough.
>>6075843
If this means you wanna have some home brew and snuggle then yes.
>>6075842
My bdd and dick say im not cis, I really wish I was though.
>>6075839
Trust me, that is definitely not creepy.
Shes a cutie and I like talking to her lots, Im just too shy to approach people.
>>6075841
Which one am I??
The short haired girl because my hair is lots shorter than yours right?
>>6075860
TRANSITION IS SHIT
but do it
being a girl in society is better, nicer, and a lot of social dysphoria goes away.
That is, if you are trans.
>>6075864
Bai maddie

>>6075760
No it's okay. It's actually kinda nice being able to talk to someone about stuff like this. So thanks for responding to me

If I could magically choose I'd want to be a girl, but when I read stuff by trans girl that are driven to almost suicide by how they hate being born a male I can't relate at all and so I concluded that I'm probably not "true" trans myself.

And yeah I strongly doubt I could pass and I would most likely get abandoned by my family and then having to deal with the social difficulty of being a barely passable(if I'd be even lucky) mtf. I don't even currently have the money or job prospects(because not even 20) to be able to afford surgeries and stuff without strong family support and I wouldn't get that since my dad normally goes on random tangents about how he hates faggots ever since I went to a pride in my city a few years ago.

>>6075863
Tfw could have been barely passing twenty year old but instead now a completely not passing 28 year old

>>6075860
I'm ultra ugly and depressed... but less ultra ugly and depressed than I was before HRT, so I'd say it's worth it

>>6075863
Transgirls have to be the least evolved creatures on the planet. We're literally told the right path to follow, we're told exactly what repression will do to us and we even have a major celebrity (Jenner) to legitimize us... and we STILL REPRESS!

>>6075843
Adult life can be dreary but you can make things happen to make it more eventful. Get out a bit, my face alone is a backstage pass and I get asked to model, but that wouldn't happen if I stayed at home in my free time.

>>6075865
get it in the right size then you silly sally.

>>6075858
It's not. That's why you usually don't hear trans people using that word about themselves.

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>>6075847
Ehhh

>>6075853
So far nothing crazy, I was going to start working on my resume and applying for work today but I'm being kind of lazy rn. Saw a friend yesterday, played some vidya for the first time in ages, all in all its been nice to kick back.

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>>6075848
Don't do it Tink. Spartan needs backup.

It would truly be a waste if you didn't start hrt. You can't afford to waste time.

I say I'll leave all the time but I never can bring myself to do it.

>tfw not cute

>>6075823
just start doing girl exercises like cardio and squats

>>6075865
It happens. Anyway hi.
>>6075875
Sounds to me like you have everything well planned out. What kind of job are you looking for?

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>>6075865
yes, and because I am 10 years older :3

>>6075864
oh look you are not getting showered with compliments so you have to announce when you are leaving
talk about insanity

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I'm starting to think that I'm actually a low sex drive femgen guy with major body dysmorphic disorder, and that I mistakenly thought I was trans.

If I grow emo hair and dye it, and get rhinoplasty for an upturned nose, then I will look extremely similar to the guy in pic related. Maybe that will satisfy me?

>>6075759
lol perfect

>>6075873
That is my issue, I could get it in a size that fits, but currently I don't have access to, well a place to get a size that fits.
I still feel too socially inadequate to go bra shopping.
>>6075879
14 year old me knows this feel, but me now kinda knows it but only on certain body areas as well as bdd.
>>6075884
nnn fair enough
<3
ilu sophie
>>6075883
hi !!
>>6075894
I don't think that would look great on you...
you are super cute and would do great as a girl if you truly feel as one.

>>6075888
The part thats really sad is that its beyond anyones control, these people come back
and it will be more of the same.

>>6075865
They shouldn't hurt like that! Go complain at the girls in the boutique you go to until they fit you with a bra that suits you.

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>>6075894
>low sex drive femgen guy
>femgen guy
there are no guys in femgen

have some headpats

>>6075897
Mods should just shut these threads down and get rid of names. No one is progressing at this rate.

>>6075848
Go. Leave this horrible place. Have a perfectly normal, healthy life.

>>6075903
this t b h

>>6075896
Hi hi. Other than talking with me on discord, what's up?

>>6075898
ahhhh but they will know im just a boy by my shoulders and stuff!!
That would be so awkward >_<
as long as I have a jacket on nobody thinks im boy ever, but if i have like a not loose shirt it becomes an issue ;;

>>6075894
please just be my girlfriend

>>6075906
just sitting here about to unpack an amazon package, also need to throw on some clothes because im super cold and it sucksss to be cold ._.

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>>6075870
>Jenner
I have to break it to you but old Brucie made things worse.

>>6075771
im scared. does spiro make your farts smell like pastrami?

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>that feel when no girlfriend

>>6075900
People find ways.
without names they use pictures
without pictures they use signatures

>>6075920
disable names and pictures and text
just shut it all down

>>6075894
A lot of femgen guys are just repressing.

the voyeuristic energy from the chasers lurking this thread will make your tiddies bigger, don't forget to post thanks chasers every so often.

>>6075865
It means beers and snuggles, preferably paired with hockey. Here's your complimentary touque :3

>>6075866
>I can't relate at all and so I concluded that I'm probably not "true" trans myself.
I guess the air should be cleared a bit on this at least, not everyone actually experiences severe dysphoria like this before they transition, and trutrans is a bit of a meme. I wasn't at the point of suicidal when I decided to transition. I hated my body, I wanted to be a girl, and I was depressed and did a lot of drugs, but I wasn't suicidal. I wanted to transition before I let myself get to that point, given repression seemed to be what drives people to the point of wanting to suicide.

I mean, at least from what I'm reading it does sound like you might actually be trans, but practical considerations are what's holding you back. That's fair, it's hard to transition at that age, and without support it's extremely difficult, especially if you're in a position where passing would be difficult. In your position, I can see going the feminine guy route working as something for the time being. If you try hormones and you like them though, what's your plan? Would you consider transition?

>>6075883
I'm looking for lab work, analytical chem if possible. I just want a 9-5 that leaves me with time to build my portfolio in my off hours.

>>6075920
>>6075920
>signatures
Utter autsim like they've never heard of name sync

>>6075928
Haha, I was trying to keep a low profile. You caught me.

>>6075920
What do you expect from a bunch of horrifically insecure trannies? Most here crave validation and are willing to do far worse than tripfag to obtain it.

>>6075911
Put clothes on you doof.
>>6075933
Oh right you told me about that. And that super fancy machine that looks like a refrigerator.

>>6075919
Iktf!
I think at least
but i would rather probably just like, i guess not be in a dedicated relationship
>>6075933
i feel tired ;;
and yay !!
>>6075936
i had a signature on /b/..

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>>6075940
You act like trannies are the only ones who namefag
>>6075944
Autism

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>>6075896
I'm not sure if I feel like a girl anymore. When I socialise with girls, I don't feel like I'm "one of them". I feel the same way about guys though, like I don't fit in with either gender.
>>6075899
"B-baka"
>>6075910
Who are you?
>>6075927
I guess, but I'm sure a lot aren't?

my farts smell like pstrami

>>6075944
pls be my gf
you don't have to be dedicated you just have to cuddle

>>6075952
I'd say it's a lot more important what you feel comfortable being, rather than who you feel comfortable being with. It's usually a harder question to answer though

>>6075952
>Who are you?
nobody really

>>6075952
I feel the same way. Because neither of us have been socialised as girls and we feel out of place with guys because we are trans.

My entire male existence has just been one long charade of forced masculinity and suppressed emotion just so I wouldn't get called a fag by other guys

I LOVE ALL OF YOU GIRLS SO MUCH AND I HOPE YOU'RE ALL HAPPY FOREVER >W<

Oh, and the chasers and birdy and whoever else doesn't fall under "girls" too <3

>>6075982
u 2 <3

>>6075952
>I guess, but I'm sure a lot aren't?
You should probably visit that general more often. You'll see just how far the rabbit hole goes regarding repression and denial.
At this point you should stop coming here and get in touch with an actual professional.

>>6075982
>and the chasers

Don't worry, we love you too.

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>tfw you wake up before the sleeping pill even wears off
3 hours of sleep after taking 50 mg trazadone and I'm very iritable and tired.

>>6075997
Then go back to sleep idiot

I just realized something.
Even though being MtF sucks
Living without testosterone is awesome!

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>>6075952
I actually know how that feels in a way.
Well I used to feel that way because I looked like a boy
but now i dont so much and i feel more suitable in a crowd of girls over guys
>>6075969
idk i like some people already
i dont do gf stuff though
im an open relationship always person
im borderline

>>6075933
>If you try hormones and you like them though, what's your plan? Would you consider transition?
I honestly don't know. My dad is really homophoic(he has been randomly going on tangents about how gays are disgusting ever since I went to a pride in my city once a few years ago) and I doubt that he would ever accept me as trans, but he's the one paying for my uni and he's also offering me a job in his business once I graduate so I really don't know if I want to throw that away for something that I'm not sure is even a "real" thing for me.

Another thing that makes me think I'm not trans because I find a lot of stuff like being a girl sexually stimulating and so I sometimes think that I just might be a fetishist and so transitioning would just be going in over my head.

I guess that most likely if I like how the hormones make me feel I'd keep taking them for a few years and see how my financial/social situation develops and adjust based on that.

>>6075952
>I guess, but I'm sure a lot aren't?
We're talking about people who read like a diagnosis sheet for dysphoria, going all the way with clinical transition, still insisting they aren't.

It's less harmful as repression than hypermasculinity, but barely so.

>>6075997

post bra

>>6076001
You really need to stop with the mood swings. It's not healthy.

>tfw ur a girl

: )

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>dad works overseas
>get a text from him
>he says he's coming home in 2 hours, going to take me out to dinner so we can talk
>apparently my mom told him about my trans stuff, no idea how he feels about it though

help

>>6076012
The one positive is that no matter how it goes, if it's a public place, he can't really do much to hurt you.

Besides breaking your heart.

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just forced myself to have my first orgasm in months
feel like I just defused a bomb desu

>>6076012
if he's taking you out to dinner he's probably going to be okay

>>6076012
>going to take me out
probably means he isnt planning on making a scene though. thats defo a step in the right direction

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>>6076012
Enjoy being bundled into a car by government operatives and enrolled in the Spartan program

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>>6076012
Could be nice don't stress yourself

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>>6076017
>tfw not your wife

>>6076012
Poor parents.

>>6075942
Yeah should be neato. There's lots of chem jobs around right now apparently. Now I just have to brush up my resume and actually make a good reasonably generic cover letter ;~;

>>6076003
I mean, right now it makes sense that it wouldn't feel "real". I won't push it though, given it does sound like your situation in life right now isn't conducive to transitioning or exploring that side of yourself
>so I sometimes think that I just might be a fetishist
Rest assured, this is common, and I've heard stuff like this from people who are almost certainly trans. Even cis women fit the bill for agp sometimes, so I wouldn't worry about this unless you're very clearly a transvestic fetishist (and it doesn't sound like you're one). Another thing that is pretty common is not truly feeling like a girl, just different, weird, or not really fitting in with guys in some way that's hard to quite put into words.

>>6076031
you said you live on the east coast though?

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>>6076008
Sometimes I don't think about the way I look.
But this week was really hard on me. Had some suicide due to high stress and anxiety.

I can't go to therapist because that would prevent me from name change.

>>6076035
yes

>>6076024
where do you find these pictures

>>6076037
so then it would never work

>>6076036
>I can't go to therapist because that would prevent me from name change.
what does that even mean?

>>6076017
why the fuck are you telling us? do you just walk up to people you don't know and hit them with information like this?

>>6076036
suicide thoughts* lol

>send past two days crying in bed
>actually feel better today

Woo hoo

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>>6076041

>>6076041
To change name you need to change your legal gender. To change your legal gender your state has to be stable.

Not everyone lives in the states Kayla. Some people struggle.

>>6076045
Because mtfg shamed me into not masturbating because all of you said it was agp to do it so I haven't had release in 2 months and I was about to implode.

>>6076033
cis girls don't even 'feel like' girls though, why do people think trannies should

mostly we just feel like ourselves

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>>6076040
4chan tumblr pixiv. That was from pixiv, fan art of JC and JK

>>6076053
Telling us about it is agp

>decide to start using female shampoo even though I'm pre hrt and everything
>the shampoo just won't blend with my hair at all, it just sits there and my hair still feels all bad after washing and rinsing
>give up and use my male shampoo instead
>hair instantly becomes nice and soft and beautiful

Is there like an actual chemical difference between male and female hair or something that causes the need for different shampoos? I always thought the only differences between male and female shampoos was the smell.

>>6076052
>To change your legal gender your state has to be stable.
But who would be trans and stable? Its like they are asking you to do the impossible, do you live in a fucking soviet satellite?

>>6076053
fetishist plz go

>>6076061
Sounds like you just got shit shampoo.

>>6076061
oh my god what a fucking dunce
its all the same

>>6076059
well then I don't give a fuck
and it doesn't matter anyway because the whole time I imagined a mans hands around my waist bouncing me on his cock

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So anyone down for a pact?

>>6076069
It's the same stuff my sister uses and her hair is fine though.

>>6076063
I had to get letters from 3 different medical professionals that I am normal (no schizo, bipolar, etc) and stable (no suicide thoughts, non aggressive).

>>6076036
You really need to get a handle on your crazy. The mood swings, this photos you keep taking, the whining... you need to get it together.

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:^)

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>tfw have no idea what I am anymore

>>6076079
Meh I'll keep posting them anyway.

>>6076077
move then, you probably are a fucking computer wiz too so just emigrate somewhere

>>6076053
oh is that why you are always so nasty? because you need to be fucked?

>>6076074
You want to become the greatest blues player?

>>6076087
I don't know the language.

>>6076088
I dunno but after orgasming my mood improved

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well this was a pretty lame returning.
only really two people i wanna talk to left actively posting rn
so actual trans issue stuff
BDD has been getting better ish since I stopped posting here, and idk if it has a direct relation or if it just like, happened to stop being as bad as I stopped posting here. Oh well, it could be just like a random thing where it goes on and off.
Like, yesterday I woke up, went to the bathroom, saw I had a dick, and then had to sit down and try not to cry because I will never be a cis woman.
Idk, it just feels wrong.
Knowing that from my birth, in society I was a guy. I can't even look at my face and see myself fully as a girl because I know that I was born as a male. The only things that ever come up are me saying "eh kinda a cute boy" on really nice images and that is about it. On others I just think I do not look good in general but everyone tells me otherwise.
Well not everyone but a large amount of people tell me otherwise and it kinda makes me feel better but since there is no physical contact and I can't feel real emotion coming from the other person over just words, my self esteem and value is shit. I can only see myself as the dumb faggot who gets coke cans thrown at him just for existing as a tranny.
>>6076063
A decent amount of trans people are stable.
Calling them mentally ill and insane is just a meme, Kayla.
Its also like that in the states for me too, I cannot legally change my gender until I am proven mentally stable enough, which I already did after a fucking 6 hour psychiatric exam.
Not everyone is in an area as blessed as the area you are in.
>>6076074
Was gonna post about that earlier but i decided not to.
Lets do it.

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>>6076076
Different hair types maybe? Give it another try

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>>6076048

>>6076054
Exactly. I've often heard the rationale though: "trans girls feel like girls, I don't feel that way, I'm clearly a guy and have always been a guy, therefore I can't be trans". It's a shitty consequence of people using the "girl trapped in a guy's body" metaphor, given I don't think I know of many people that feel that way in a literal sense, but it's the only possible simplification that you can tell a cis person to make them understand.

Like you said, people feel like "ourselves", and when your self has been defined by years of presenting as, being treated as, and assuming that you're a male, you're probably not going to feel in any way like a girl. It's probably not going to feel natural to say that you're a girl, whereas for a cis girl who has lived their whole life that way, it's going to feel natural, and they'll do it without a second thought.

After transition is another story though. I've been seen as, presented as, and treated as female for more than a quarter of my life now, it feels natural to say that's what I am now, although at first it definitely didn't.

>>6076094
how bout you fuck off ?

>>6076091
You seem to know english well enough. Just move to an english speaking nation.

>>6076061
Many shampoos and conditioners marketed at women contain silicones. It's great to make your hair look better if it's naturally dry. However, it just doesn't mix with typical oily male hair. Your hair and skin will get drier on HRT, it's one of the most obvious effects. While it does look better, you have to take extra care of them once that happens.
Also, get used to using shampoo only a couple times a week, more really damages your hair if you want it long. You still can wash them in between, obviously, but with just water and conditioner, though.

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reply if this is u

>>6076084
It's scary how me and you have the same feels at different times.

Heads up. You may get an angry phase soon enough.

>>6076086
Post away. I am not taking about you spazing here, I am talking about your life in general. I doubt that everyone around you is oblivious to how you behave.

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>>6076107
Idk

>>6076094
i think you are a cute girl

Can I get arrested for self medding?

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>>6076107
FIXED IT

>>6076017
That's good Kayla! Whatever makes you happy and relieves stress is good, and if it's been months then I'm sure that's a lot of stress to be relieved lol.

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Just looking at this image, all I can see is a boy attempting to look like a girl but not being able to do it since deep down he knows he isn't a cis girl and never will be.
Some people might see a weird looking girl, or even an androgyne but I just can't see myself as anything but a disgusting boy.
God fucking dammit.
>>6076104
What ?
What did I do to you?
I'm saying that an area that allows you to change something so significant in a legal standard that doesn't require you to have extensive psychiatric evaluation is a pretty great blessing.
>>6076118
thanks i guess
>>6076121
no.

>>6076121
in Malaysia, yea

>even the cute girls hate themselves
i think i'll just kill myself

>>6076128
>What did I do to you?
you won't stop posting selfies of how good you pass and its triggering

>>6076124
I think it would depend on the person.

>>6076128
Tbh in that photo i see a cute girl with kissable lips

>>6076048
>two days
Holy shit Korra, I'm sorry I didn't realize it was this bad for you ;-;. I guess you didn't manage to find the hormones?

>>6076128
You look like a beautiful girl

>>6076102
I like to use 'normality' meters to explain. Like for most people those meters match enough, but for trans there are enough mismatches for it to be seriously noticeable.

This is also totally separate from our interests/etc that are usually pigeonholed into gender roles by society.

>>6076141
don't feed her more compliments

>>6076112
I behave pretty quiet in real life. I was hurt to many times so I don't bother any more.

>>6076144
you look like a beautiful girl too kayla

if you ever want to have sex just let me know

>>6076151
I look like a monster. You think I would complain if I passed? kek, no I wouldn't.

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>>6076136
fuck off and die kayla you salty cunt
nobody likes you
you dont like anyone
you literally make this place shittier for everyone

>>6076102
I never managed to properly present as a guy, too many things I didn't want to give up, like long hair and properly cut clothes, and quite a few I couldn't, like my lilting speech patterns. I could even less feel like one. And looking back, what made socializing difficult while I tried was the cognitive dissonance I caused in most people since they had a hard time labeling me and most people need labels. Things went way smoother again once I went full time, Now I talk about my early years using feminine words without even thinking about it. (French is unfortunately a very strongly gendered language, having to deal only with pronouns and first names in English is a blessing, really...)

>>6076033
>I won't push it though, given it does sound like your situation in life right now isn't conducive to transitioning or exploring that side of yourself
Kinda, I'll be going to uni abroad after summer so I basically won't interact with anyone I know IRL for a few years so I can explore plenty up to the point of long term decisions.

I also plan to socialize with people around the BDSM scene so maybe that will help me determine which of my desires are just fetishes and which are like "identity" related.

>Another thing that is pretty common is not truly feeling like a girl, just different, weird, or not really fitting in with guys in some way that's hard to quite put into words.
hmm idk I do feel some disconnect from time to time so maybe it's worth considering, but I'm not sure if assuming I'm trans because of it is just not like some sort of a conformational bias where I look back and my life and associate things that might have nothing to do with to me being trans because it's the topic that's currently on my mind


Either way thanks again for talking with me about it. This probably makes me sound pretty gay but I've been shitposting in these threads the last few days because right now these kinds of topics are on my mind quite a lot and basically it felt good having someone listen to me/give feedback about stuff I said.

>>6076048
Awwww, sweetie. Way to let it all out.

>>6076036
I've never heard of it. Here it's the opposite - gender change requires therapist and doctor approval.


And after talking with my friend yesterday about the whole "being frequently gendered trans while presenting male" thing that was going on last week, I think I'm better about the whole thing? Yes, it sucks that I can't blend regardless what I'm wearing, but she made the comment, "hey, at least you're obviously not a cis guy anymore". Sleeping, raging, and exercising has let that set in. And, yeah. It's clearly better not to be mistaken for a cis guy...

Did anyone else go through something like that?

>>6076053
i honestly cant tell if youre retarded or a collective of people sharing a trip to troll with

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>>6076089
That'd be rad af, but do I need more blues in my life? That's the point of the pact I thought....
>>6076094
Where and when?????? I don't want to be a man anymore and my ffs plan isn't gonna work out so I'm down. We just gotta kill each other because killing yourself is scary as fuarrrrrrk desu.....

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>>6076165
>or a collective of people sharing a trip to troll with

my money is on this.

Sorry, had to vent bdd.
>>6076141
thanks but im not really feeling it now.
i consider that a good pic of me, but even as that I can't see myself as a girl and it stings me...
>>6076136
oh, sorry.
You don't look horrible though, and i think i only pass because people might just be feeling bad for me and know im a tranny.
Also, if simply just an image has that much of an effect on you, do you have any idea of what some of the things you post might do?
If you are going to dish shit out and attempt to upset people, be prepared to fucking take what others hand back.
Not to mention that a lot of people only say rude shit about you because you consistently shit talk about how you think they are better than you and you are just shite?
I'm starting to think you really are an actual plague of a person.
"YOU GOTTA STOP BEING A SADCUNT"
-zyzz
Please fuck off already.
>>6076138
thanks i guess?
urk
i dont get it but oh well.
>>6076166
oh shit
urk
idk if i can do that, its spooky
>>6076171
>>6076165
yeah this actually makes sense.

pls DO NOT bully kayla

>>6076154
>I look like a monster
This is like saying the earth is flat, you need to stop with these radical fringe beliefs that are obviously untrue.

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is my mousepad trutrans?

>>6076179
yea

>>6076179
ur mousepad's a furry lol

>>6076178
https://youtu.be/nZ4Vg_3jRQE

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>>6076179

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>>6076177

>>6076179
nah it's just furry

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>>6076171
Too complicated.

>>6076177
"Bullying" Kayla is a time-honored tradition here. In fact, if you like Kayla, you just haven't lurked enough newfag.

>PEOPLE HAVE LITERALLY BEEN ABUSED, PUT IN THE HOSPITAL BY THEIR OWN BLOOD RELATED FAMILY
>THERE ARE GIRLS HERE THAT HAVE BEEN RAPED, SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, ATTACKED, AND MORE
>YOU HAVE THE FUCKING NERVE TO SAY THAT TRUE PAIN IS HAVING A BIT OF FUCKING FACIAL HAIR COMPARED TO ALL OF THIS
LITERALLY WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU.
WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRONG WITH YOU.
YOU ONLY CONTRIBUTE NEGATIVITY, YOU CONSISTENTLY BE A JACKASS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE EVEN NICE TO YOU, HELL I EVEN TRIED TO BE NICE TO YOU BUT ALL YOU CAN DO IS BE ANGERED AT THE FACT THAT YOU THINK IM POSTING SIMPLY TO SHOW OFF THAT I'M 'ATTRACTIVE'
WEW
YEAH OKAY
DEFINITELY NOT LIKE I HAVE BDD AND CRY 3-4 TIMES A WEEK AT THE FACT THAT I HAVE MALE GENITALIA

MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST PUT THAT FUCKING GUN IN YOUR MOUTH ALREADY AND PULL THE TRIGGER BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAKE THE WHOLE WORLD A HELLUVA LOT HAPPIER.

>>6076165
Well you shitting on me is a first from you and shows how much of a shallow brat you are. Did mommy stop paying for your fancy guitar lessons?

I'm scared that if I buy spiro online I could get arrested because I don't have a prescription

>>6076033
You could do it. Resumes are pretty easy to do and there are cover letter templates online.

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>>6076179
Are you a furry fujoshit with no shame or sense of propriety?

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Holy moly that felt good to type.
Oh well, she is just a troll anyways.
>>6076177
if you like kayla, go kill yourself with her.
>>6076196
Fucking kill yourself.

>>6076194
Wow are you OK?

>>6076198
What country do you live in?

>>6076194
I have been sexually abused too you jerk, unlike you I don't wear it on my sleeve as some badge of honor so get out of my face with this holier than thou shit. Also I have genital dysphoria too but people mock me about it all because I don't pass well enough to merit a vagina.

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>>6076166
Well if you aren't willing to suffer for your art you can always ask for looks, wealth, the usual.

>>6076198
Kek don't be

>>6076160
Oooh, well if you have the chance to explore that side of yourself with little risk of serious consequences or running into people you know, then more power to you, it might actually be the best time to try exploring.
>conformational bias
Always a risk. It was something I was careful to consider when looking back on my life. Always ask yourself twice, and then ask yourself twice again if something makes sense in the context of being trans. Using that kind of approach I was able to throw out a few things that probably were just circumstantial or unrelated, but a few things did stick that did honestly make a lot more sense in the context of being trans and unaware of it.

And anytime anon, glad I could help in some way. If you do have the chance to see a therapist at some point it may also help you to get your thoughts on it in order, does the uni you're attending offer psychological services?

>>6076142
That's a good analogy, always requires so much explaining though ;~;

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looks like I came back to the perfect time
what's up ya cooks
obligatory :
>>6076188
ily <3
>>6076194
upvoted and confirmed for goddess of wisdom
>>6076179
lmao wat
>>6076177
never
>>6076207
pic related

>>6076196
ive never taken a guitar lesson in my life you dunce

vid.me/86wl

>>6076163
>Did anyone else go through something like that?
This is pretty much how I feel whenever someone asks me for my pronouns
On the one hand it means I don't look like as much of a guy, and on the other it's still not passing (and that in-between space is pretty awkward)

>>6076213
who is that

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>>6076193
great taste in pictures <3

>>6076213
sorry for yesterday. I usually can contain my crazy pretty well, but a few days off hormones disable the filters in my brain >,<

>>6076149
Ever thought about not being so quiet? Bottling everything up could be just as bad.

>>6076213
Jesus how old is the big old bully Kayla?

>>6076213
yep, mock me because my looks are bad, shows how much of a jerk you and everyone else is. You all treat me like shit because I don't pass.

>>6076219
The one on the left is the hottest cis woman to ever exist and no trans woman could ever compete with her perfect cis andro looks.

>>6076226
shut the fuck up you dumb cunt

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>>6076221
Why thank you.

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>>6076221
everybody has bad days no problem <3
>>6076226
nah we treat you bad because :
you start shit and you lie
>pic relate
>>6076225
idk I like to call her gramps tho

>>6076201
i wear my umaru chan cape outside

>>6076226
People treat you like shit because you're a mean cunt who goes out an extra step to be cruel.

i like kayla and lily
pls stop fighting

>>6076216
dang
nice as heck

>>6076196
do you keep a list of everyone who has "wronged" you or something by posting a picture of themselves?
fucking psychopath
check yourself into an institution

>>6076229
No, I can be as loud as I want because at the end of all of this is you brats mocking me because I don't have the looks that you do. Its all about being pretty here and because I ain't all of you think its open season to shit on me for things out of my control. Why don't you go to a burn ward and go mock them? Oh wait, i bet all of you do that too.

>>6076228
upvote for the first part
downvote for the last part
you ain't know nothing about dem andro looks
>>6076234
just bringing the heat while waiting for the nockerl dough to set
>>6076219
a goddess

>>6076231
>I like to call her gramps tho

lol

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>>6076175
Oh, yeah I mean ishoud get into some accident with a car soon enough anyway. I'm surprised I've only been tapped once so far desu. Hopefully the car will hit me in all the right places.
>>6076179
How is diy electro?????
>>6076208
Ehh it'd be wasted either way desu.

>>6076232
So you're just trash

>>6076234
>i like kayla and lily
What made you choose the two most cringe inducing trips here?

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ily elanna can you hug me?

>>6076207
I never wanted ANYBODY TO KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT IN THE FIRST PLACE UNTIL PEOPLE POSTED PRIVATE INFO HERE.
You literally put yourself into the shittiest light and you constantly invalidate the problems and issues of others.
All you do is just bitch, moan, and be a cunt.
off yourself.
>>6076213
I just hate pieces of human trash.
but thanks lilly <3
>That fucking IMAGE LMAO
>>6076226
Read the other posts at you.
You will have your simple answer.
Stupid twat.
You're a fucking manchild. Err womanchild? is womanchild a term people use?
Go to a fucking mental hospital or swallow the fucking cyanide.
>>6076234
Kayle should kill herself, simple as that.
>>6076239
:(
also dont do diy electro

>>6076210
>That's a good analogy, always requires so much explaining though ;~;
kinda, but anyone who's deep enough into discussion to be talking about feelings is probably up for it. Besides, not *that* hard to explain unless you go full consciousness-model.

>>6076236
I dont even know what you look like and I think you're a cunt

>>6076240
is your receding hairline or frankenstein-shaped head making you upset dude? maybe once you get on hrt you will relax a little.

>>6076239
>>6076245
it doesn't work, but that's probably bc i got a used unit with a slightly bent tip

i got a refund tho

>>6076245
You should kill yourself. All people like you do is post pics to fish for attention and when I call you out on the truth you flip your shit because all you want is people worshiping your flawless face, fuck you!

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>>6076226
>You all treat me like shit because I don't pass.
No, people treat you like shit because you're a self absorbed, histrionic asshole that yoyos back and forth between being "nice", and then blaming others for your own failings, attacking people for success that they've earned, and generally seeing it as a personal affront when other people achieve any measure of happiness. You also could have been happy years ago if you weren't such a shallow, self absorbed brat that wants everything handed to them. You could have had friends if you didn't constantly turn on people that were sympathetic to you and see their happiness as an insult to you.

Every single one of your problems is your own fucking fault. Welcome back to the filter list.

everyone stop fighting

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>>6076175
Zyzz was my repressive role model.

I loved that man so much. And now I've failed him.

>>6076254
Filter me because I speak the truth.

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Just popping in for the first time today. Looks like everyones having a lovely Sunday! Isnt being born male but having your heart, mind and soul scream at you every day telling you that you're a girl just such a great life? Yay us!

>>6076259
Filter you because you're retarded
What are we talking about

>>6076261
Shut up weeb.

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>>6076230
wow I didnt have that one, thanks!

>>6076231
yeah but I am usually really good at hiding.
Ilu <3

>>6076264
I am not retarded, I am the worlds punching bag and everyone makes my life hard and gives all of you everything for nothing. And the worst part is I am touted as the bad guy even though all of you are the bad guys.

>>6076266
Fight me dweeb.

>>6076256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0AWgOnk67A

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>>6076256
Kek only if that worked
>>6076261
Ye-yeah

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>>6076271

>>6076236
It's not your looks that annoy people, Kay, it's the fact that you've been doing nothing but whining in 7 years, even when you're basically memeing.

If you'd put in as much effort into transition as you did whining in that time (in a forum which I'll remind you had the best DIY guide online at the time), you'd probably be ft and postop by now.

>>6076269
I called out the bullshit on posting selfies to compliment fish. Sorry to upset the beauty contest when I say its wrong to constantly fish for attention in a place that has more ugly people then it realizes and posting pretty faces knowingly causes heartache.

>>6076254
holy guac, cute little elanna with the massive beat down, don't mistake her kindness for weakness, deep down she's an amazon warrior princess, wow

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>>6076272
Only if you promise to not cry.

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>>6076271
Kek Jesus Christ

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>>6076252
>You should kill yourself.
someone needs more AAs
>All people like you do is post pics to fish for attention
pic and link related
https://fgts.jp/b/thread/653560363/#653564446

>>6076268
ilu2 :3
how's your day mein führer ?
I had eiernockerl today in your honor ^^

Would you rather spend five hours alone in a room with kayla or hips?

>>6076277
I am putting in nothing but effort, i don't have the money that all of you do so how can I get surgery with no $$$?

>>6076279
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/traits.html
Seek help.

>>6076271
kayla, i am in los angeles. i will come fuck you right now if you promise to stop shitting up the thread

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>>6076292

>>6076271
Yea you're retarded

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>>6076254
I like this derpanna more.

>>6076289
Kayla, because she would enjoy the physical pleasure and hips probably smells

>>6076295
No, you will show up and then mock me like the last person I trusted to fuck me.

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>>6076303

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>>6076276
Brah.

>>6076303
ill mock you while i fuck you but i do that to every girl

>>6076292
How much did you get for your bike?
What was it like going fulltime in 2011? Do you think it was easier when you did it vs now with increased awareness?
After navigating the california system for srs coverage do you have any tips for the girls who are just starting now?

Please share some wisdom from all the effort you put in.

>>6076299
And you work at fucking walmart.

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>>6076252
Yes, twist the world to your desire, follow your disgusting path into degeneracy and madness, losing your sanity and any sentience you have.
It isn't the truth and you know it, you are just a sad cunt trying to piss other people off.
>>6076259
Filtering you because you blame others for your shortcomings that you could fix if you weren't such a valueless slob that can't do anything with their life because you are a piece of shit.
Thats what the actually decent girl is doing.
You could have been a good person, but seriously you failed your own parents with your existence.
You inspire so much negative shit that you have failed yourself and you don't realize it.
Now shut the fuck up you retarded manchild.
Only people who want you here are people who have fetishes for immature trolls.
Literally.
>>6076257
I fucking love zyzz.
So much.
>>6076271
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HOLY SHIT
oh this is gonna make for a great image.

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>mfw Kayla will never pass

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>look at me I am so poor ;_;

>>6076308
Increased awareness is a meme.

>>6076303
Holy shit who
>>6076289
Terrible, no good question

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>>6076309

>>6076305
you fucking passer, you just posted that gorgeous photo of yourself to brag about how easy your life is, FUCK YOU

>>6076303
i won't mock you kayla

>tfw mtfg used to be comfy

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Every stop and think that maybe there is more to life than being a tranny?

Like fresh pizza?

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>>6076301
>tfw you'll never be bullied by cute Japanese girls in skirts

>>6076314
still bored?

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>>6076305
>transpassing
I knew it.

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Why is everything so angry right now, my recommendation is to go get a at amazing gf and snuggle her as much as possible

REEEEEEEEE EVERYONES LIFE IS SO MUCH BETTER
MOMMY WHERE ARE MY TENDIES AND KETCHUP IVE BEEN HARASSING TRANNIES FOR 7 YEARS KID YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT TRANSITION

>>6076279
I'm not fishing for compliments when I post pictures. I know what I'm worth, compliments won't change that one way or another. However, with so many girls here panicking at the idea of transitioning "too late", I'd like to think I'm helping some realize that you can transition well past your early twenties and still be beautiful iand that it's not as impossible as some trolls keep parroting.

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>>6076236
Not rly.. If that was the case then the rest of us no passing ever posters would get shit 24/7.
>>6076245
Don't be sad,that's just part of my job tbqh. Reckless bikers with NYC traffic mean you'll get hit eventually.
>>6076251
Ahhh damn.
>>6076331
>ywn have a gf

>>6076332

>>6076331
>taking advice from a coward and a liar

>>6076331
Wow thanks for the recommendation I'll just do that

>>6076334
this

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http://imgur.com/a/70Cdr
anyone else wanna contribooot ?

>>6076329
nah this is fun

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>>6076326
hey muff what's up

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>>6076323
Life ehh
>>6076326
Making me want pizza

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>>6076281
You'll be the one crying... punk.

>>6076271
This reads like Linkin Park lyrics.

>>6076217
Passing would be nice. It's good to know that that's not a feel unique to me, at least. Leaving the house and casually being a woman with little effort still feels like a pipe dream, but there's years left to go, and surgeries yet to try.

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>>6076343
yay

>>6076343
A long time ago I showed you a picture of me. I said I would always look like shit and you told me that you thought I would definitely pass for sure. You were right. Thank you for believing in me.

>>6076323
/tlg/ was even comfier, but it's lacking something to be lively recently. Or someone. Really can't blame her knowing why, though.

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>>6076334
The whole point of posting selfies is for compliments.

>>6076335
>tfw i want to be your gf but I'm afraid of talking to you

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>>6076348
Fuck off yume

>>6076356
all you
congrats :)