Hey everybody. I'm at 4 months HRT and I'm definitely

happened to me too, not that uncommon

The guy in pic is
CUTE, CUTE i say

>>6028638
..thanks? lol

>>6028629
It changed my sexuality for sure. Before I was similar settings to you, probably 90% into girls and 10% into just the right kind of guys. Then arounf 4-8 months in I really was noticing it shift towards attraction to guys. Now it's 80% into guys 20% into girls or so. I found it weird too, but you get used to it. Was interesting to catch myself staring at guys like I used to stare at girls.

With time you'll get more used to it. You'll also get more used to being a tranny and stop thinking about it and talking about it as much. The way you act and dress will normalize and become less extreme. So on and so forth. Eventually you won't even really be thinking of it.

do you also begin wanting to have children?

>>6028649
alright, very interesting. also super neat!

>>6028650
haaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh

>>6028650

Are you asking because it happened to you, or because you're concerned it might? A femboy made a thread not too long ago about wanting to become a mother after starting HRT and having no one to talk about it with. I always wanted kids, personally (except during my repression phase).

>>6028672
just curious and Im not on hrt

>>6028629
It's really common.

Meanwhile i'm as swingy as ever with my attraction.

>>6028650
i find it easier to stomach the idea of babies now. Like i always wanted kids i just didn't want to have to deal with a baby. Now i'm ok with the idea of that.

No. The presence of any sex hormone intensifies libido, which intensifies cravings that were already there and destabilizes familiarity with one's own sexuality as the body readjusts to running on a different substance. It's ego-death for your collection of fetishes.

This anon has been on and off so many different hormones and drugs that fuck with the libido that it's obvious any alteration of orientation is not caused by the hormone or drug itself. (Currently taking MtF HRT for "hair restoration" *cough cough* and it hasn't done a damn thing to sexual attraction except intensify what's already there compared to no hormones/androgen blockers only. I.e, it's egfuckingxactly the same as testosterone except it makes my beard grow slower.)

>>6028672
Right now I feel like kids are little monsters, but the way I treat my animals like babies I wonder if I'll turn around on it on HRT..

I'd want a baby just to make sure it doesn't get ruined by society :B

>>6028629
Oh my God, OP, the EXACT same thing is happening to me. At first I was identifying as a transbian, but lately it feels like the last two letters of that have dropped away.

Before transitioning, I used to be mostly straight. I would fantasize about the idea of having sex with a guy, but it was more about the concept of doing it than anything else... a fetishization, like you said. The only guys I was actually attracted to were really femme dudes who were at least 9/10s. (With women, in contrast, my standards were both lower and broader: there were a lot of different types of girls I'd be attracted to and I was perfectly willing to sleep with someone who was just okay looking.)

Now I'm 4 months in to HRT and just the other day I found myself checking out guys on the subway. Not stunningly attractive guys, just ordinary 7/10s. They weren't even particularly femme, just normal looking masculine-but-not-too-masculine dudes.

What should I do about this? What can I do about this? Does this sort of thing happen often? Honestly, I don't want to be attracted to guys, is it inevitable?

Also, I'm still as attracted to women as ever, but part of me is worried that will change too. Is that something that could also happen? I have a lot of female partners and it would really suck to just stop being attracted to them.

It did to me too.
I liked dicks before but was otherwise a normal straight man. Now at 1 yr of HRT I find myself not attracted to women at all and only to men.

I guess HRT can change your sexual orientation then.

>>6029227
So what are my options? I can't stop HRT, it's made me content with myself for the first time in my life. But I don't really want to be attracted to guys, and I definitely don't want to stop being attracted to women.

>tfw AGP
>tfw hoping HRT will make me attracted to men
Anyone else know this feel?

>>6029396
Just roll with it. If you're attracted to them, you will wind up liking it, you just have to give yourself time to adjust and get over it. Eventually you'll come to love it.

>>6029499
I'm mostly worried about losing attraction to some of my current partners. If I end up becoming bi, that's great. All the more options available, even if I'd probably still go after women more often than not. But I really don't want to be solely attracted to men. If nothing else, they don't treat transwomen as well. Plus I'm not psychologically attracted to traditionally masculine behavior, it's kind of a turn off. I want someone soft I can cuddle and giggle with.

>>6029461
Why would you want that?

>>6029396
Maybe your attraction won't change? That's a possibility too you know

>>6029564
It's already changing. I'm the one who posted >>6028850

Does becoming more attracted to guys mean I'll be less attracted to women? Or is it possible I'll just have a wider range of attraction in general?

Also, is there any way to try and control how my attraction develops? Looking at porn or something?

>>6029558
Right now I prefer to be fucked by men but prefer to marry women. This is a paradox can you see? Also pretty unsuccessful with women so I'd be glad to be rid of them.

>>6029691
I'm the opposite, I've always had much more successful with women than with men. But that was back when I was presenting male, so things might be different now... being straight makes it a lot easier to find a partner than being gay, after all. I also had much higher standards for men than women, which might have been a factor.

Still, I hear so many horror stories about male chasers who fetishize and mistreat and abuse trans women. Obviously they're not all like that, but it makes me think dating women is safer for a trans person.

>>6029715
>I've always had much more successful with women than with men
How is this even possible? It was certainly not the reason for me transitioning but I cannot lie that the difficulty of women was on the list of reasons why I hated being male.
>I hear so many horror stories about male chasers who fetishize and mistreat and abuse trans women. Obviously they're not all like that, but it makes me think dating women is safer for a trans person.
I have worried about this as well. violence is the one downside to dating men.

>>6029743
>It was certainly not the reason for me transitioning but I cannot lie that the difficulty of women was on the list of reasons why I hated being male.
I have some bad news for you anon...

>>6029743
Why are you surprised? As a man, it's obviously going to be a lot easier to attract women than men, since most people are straight. Only 5-10% of guys like other guys, compared to 90-95% of girls. Being straight makes it literally 10-20x easier to find a partner than being gay. And being trans effectively halves your dating pool (and that's a generous estimate), since not everyone is willing to date a trans person.

>>6029766
Here we go

Why do I even bother being honest? I can list 50 reasons why I want to transition but everyone will latch on to reason #47, that I sucked at being a man.

I am honest, I've always been jealous of women, wanted a vagina and breasts, wanted to be pretty, preferred penis to vagina but it was all repressed until my life went /r9k/-tier and I thought what's the point in continuing as a man if I suck at it AND I never even wanted to be one in the first place? Heck due to AGP I even love riding cock. I fucked women (hookers), my dildo was more fun. Therefore why the fuck should I continue fighting to "be a man" just to prove to some anonymous fucks that I'm not a cop out loser? Maybe I am, does it matter? I never asked to play this game, I'm deciding to play the game that I've always wanted to, i.e be a woman with a boyfriend.

>>6029797
Uh no. Men are direct and usually up for anything. Women are reserved. Anyway my experiences are clear cut, in my AGP mode I have zero problems finding men even though I'm fishing in the incredibly tiny pool that is gays who like femimine boys. As a man despite fishing in the vast pool of straight women for 24 years I've gotten zilch. Anyway I'm not bitter like the rest of /r9k/ for once I stopped suppressing my trans side I realized that being masculine and dominant wasn't my thing, doesn't make me a bad person, I should just do what I really want to do.

>>6029908
Hey, do whatever makes you happy. I'm not trying to argue with your personal experience... I'm just saying that you can't assume it's a common one. For most men and women, it's a lot easier to find people of the opposite sex that are attracted to you than people of the same sex.

>>6030097
completely does not compute
well if what you say is true then you can see what I meant when I said I sucked at being a man. I flopped in a dating pool that's 95% of the female population. 3.5 billion people. This is why people commit suicide

>>6029743

>violence is the one downside to dating men

Someone post lesbian domestic abuse statistics.

>>6030147
Why are you beating yourself up over this? Being a man isn't about getting women. It's not like a gay man is any less of a man than a straight man. And you apparently never had too much trouble finding guys, which is usually difficult for gay men, so you've got that going for you.

Besides, you're a woman now, so what does it matter anyway? Why do you still care about this so much?

>>6028850

> Mentally ill: The Post.

>>6030197
Those statistics mostly pertain to cis women. I've never heard of women beating up trans women for "tricking" them, like men do all the time. I've only heard one instance of a woman raping a trans woman, compared to countless stories of men doing the same. I've never seen women creepily fetishize trans women the way male chasers do.

Look, I'm not some bitchy misandrist SJW feminazi. Almost all of my friends are still men. My bestie is a man. I'm just saying that when it comes to dating and sex, the idea of doing anything with a guy is a little scary.

>>6030236
Thanks for that insight

>>6030207
>which is usually difficult for gay men, so you've got that going for you
Is it? Maybe I took it for granted, thanks for giving me self confidence.
>Why do you still care about this so much?
I don't it's just that coincidentally today my mum tried to give me fashion tips and I said no because I don't want to be uncool like I was as a man and she asks me if I did it because I was uncool so I had to justify myself all over again saying no but honestly it was the catalyst that broke my repression.
>>6030244
How do I avoid violent men?

>>6029582
You're not Op, I am lol don't soil your agenda with my question

>>6030291
>I don't it's just that coincidentally today my mum tried to give me fashion tips and I said no because I don't want to be uncool like I was as a man and she asks me if I did it because I was uncool so I had to justify myself all over again saying no but honestly it was the catalyst that broke my repression.
How old are you? You really need to stop worrying about what's "cool" or not. It's immature and makes you seem like you have low self-esteem, which itself is pretty damn uncool. Be grateful that you have a mom who's okay with you being trans and for fuck's sake, take her fashion tips, you have 10-20 years worth of girl stuff to catch up on and every bit helps.

>How do I avoid violent men?
Date women.

>>6030424
Not same poster but how do I avoid violent/emotionally manipulative women

>>6030291

You have better chances when you follow these guidelines:

>At least college educated men (and current students)
>Generally not minorities/foreigners
>Men not from anywhere but the west coast and the upper east coast
>Telling them you're trans early on (if you actually end up passing so well they can't tell on their own)
>With friends who fell for you after transition and want to fug you (unless you knew them as scumbags from when you were presenting male)
>A SJW cuck
>Men under 30
>Men that are not gang members (seems obvious, but there was a 17 year old passing trans girl who got killed by her gang member boyfriend despite him knowing she was trans)
>Drop any men that do more of these than you're comfortable with http://www.newhopeforwomen.org/abuser-tricks
>If you go to a bar watch your drink or have a friend you really trust, usually a woman, watch it
>Related, not getting blind drunk in public or with someone you don't know
>Have a friend know where you are when you go out on a date and when to expect to hear back from you (if plans change, like things went off unexpectedly well and maybe you're going to have sex, make sure to update them on it). Give them identifying info about the guy just in case.

>>6030424

>Date women
>The cut off your nose to spite your face advice rears its ugly head.

>>6030434
Don't date people? Sex and relationships involve some degree of risk. There's no way to 100% guarantee that you won't encounter someone who's physically or emotionally abusive. That said, the guidelines that >>6030439 are pretty good at minimizing the odds.

>>6030439
Would shaving off a good bit of the skin on my nose allow it to heal back but smaller if I go down to the bone as much as I can or will it just make me have an ugly scarred nose

>>6030424
But I don't wanna end up looking like Kayla who clearly takes style tips from her mom
>>6030439
Sounds good, thanks. But I always though older men were less violent?

>>6028629
>I find myself wanting to be held and protected by a large muscly cis-man and I've literally NEVER felt this way before. Does anyone else have this going on??
Fuck yes and Im not even on moans.

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>>6030479
what do you think

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>>6030493
>you will never have a muscly bf

>>6028629
You look like a cheap drag queen your face screams BOY

>>6030479
>or will it just make me have an ugly scarred nose
Yes.

>>6030520
>4 months

>>6030520
I think she looks pretty. I say pass.

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>>6030479

I skidded my elbow from falling after running and stepping onto a thick plastic bag (which was blown by the wind into my path) back in August. My skin's still red and I doubt it will ever return to its original color. Fortunately, it's not that conspicuous a location, unlike the nose, so I'm not insecure about it. Basically, I'm saying don't cut off the skin of your nose. It's the cartilage you need to worry about, and some work on the nasal bone if you do a significant removal of cartilage (you wouldn't want a small nose on a ridge of bone not flush to the surface of the nose).

You're better off getting a surgeon to do it.

>>6030492

True, but younger men are more used to the idea of a trans woman at least. Of course, some young men can also be plagued by issues involved in defining themselves as men, so finding out they like a trans woman is extremely stressful for them.

>>6030197

>studies that factor in a wimpy little slap by a 5' 3" 120lb girl as "abuse"

Suuure.

Men may or may not abuse marginally less, by the definitions of PC studies, but post a study that shows whether women or men send more people to the hospital or the grave with their abuse.

>>6030531
Idk how trannies work but judging by these threads it's all about passing and having a straight guy

>>6030566
You can't have a straight guy without lying to him about the fact that you're a tranny. Assuming you got a one in a million axe wound pussy that actually looks okay.

>>6030654

I wouldn't want a guy so straight he wouldn't want to play with my girltinkler at all (if being straight really is the reason for it).

But I wouldn't want a guy so chaser/gay he wouldn't want me without the penis either.

>>6030670
Anyone we get with is automatically incapable of being 100% straight. Chasers do not exist - creepy people exist. If someone actually loves my dick and isn't a creep then I'm perfectly okay with that and it's preferable seeing as I am non-op until a better vag surgery comes around.

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>>6030520
Thanks a lot :)

I could say many things, but i will just say this. I could fap to that picture.

>>6030507

>You will never have a strong, muscly bf who buys some sexy lingerie for you to wear in secret a few days in advance of your anniversary
>He will never hide it carefully, planning to keep it a surprise until the night of the anniversary
>You will never find it while cleaning the house and figure out what he's planning
>You will never decide to flip the surprise on him and put it on the night of the anniversary
>He will never close the door as he comes home and then turn around to find you modeling the lingerie for him
>You will never say, "Hey," and give him a coy smile as you turn to the side and wiggle your butt
>He will never rush over and pick you up to throw you over his shoulder
>You will never giggle in surprise at how you drove him crazy with lust
>He will never squeeze your ass as he carries you into the bedroom
>He'll never push you onto the bed and fuck you like he owns you
>You will never get cuddled after the intense orgasm
>You will never feel his broad, muscular chest on your back, and his strong arms wrapped around your body, every part of you feeling the warmth of his protection and love

The problem is even if you get the bf, he probably won't remember on his own , so you have to put a reminder on his phone's calendar.

>>6030730

I would think the guys who don't touch their trans girlfriends dicks at all and want her to get rid of it as soon as possible (even putting priority on her getting SRS over FFS first) are completely straight.

>>6030834

Question, are you British? You kind of remind me of Jackie Green (the trans woman, not the musician).

>>6030895

Which, fampai?

>>6028629
>Can/Does HRT affect something like our sexuality? It seems odd to me that it would, and I can't really see how it would in any way.. but since that remains true.. what the hell is going on?! lol
Unknown.

What is speculated by a number of psychologists is you now feel more free to express those feelings, so you do. So now you notice/acknowledge them more.

I've flopped from highly female orientated to highly male orientated. Maybe even 100% male.

>>6031092
>you now feel more free to express those feelings, so you do.

That isn't really consistent with people who have overtly lost attraction though, such as you maybe even losing all attraction to women when you mainly fapped to them before.

>>6031116

Maybe it's part of the AGP, masturbating to projecting the body of the female onto yourself (perhaps you're not conscious of it).

I would say MtFs going from gay guys to lesbians pokes a bigger hole in the theory.

>>6031082
OP here, no not British. American.

I'm pre everything and sexually attracted to both anyway but mostly romantically into women. Will estrogen affect this too?

>>6028672
Oh gosh I'm afraid of this. I've known for years that I don't want kids. I see them as disgusting, annoying, and nothing but a burden to make me waste my own life while everything becomes about them. Plus, I would be an awful, neglectful parent, and I don't want kids to have to go through that.

>>6031248

>sees kids as disgusting, annoying, burden
>yet says they wouldn't want kids to go through their awful parenting

2 late, bby. the baby crazy virus is already working its way thru u. <3

>>6031262

Isn't that a bad thing?
The main reason I don't want kids is because I know I'd be an unfit parent. I have bipolar depression, am poor, uninspired career-wise and can barely take care of myself. If the baby crazy virus takes over in a few years, it's probably not going to end well.

Yeah, hormones are powerful.

Most trans folks wind up bisexual, if not totally straight.

>>6028650
Yes.

I used to abhor the idea of ever having children, and now I desperately want them to the point of crying about it every few days.

>>6029582
> Does becoming more attracted to guys mean I'll be less attracted to women?

In my experience, yes. I used to masturbate to women all the time, and now I find them abbhorent sexually. Like, I can look at them and cherish their appearance or be totally jealous, but I'm not attracted to them and find the idea of having sex with them weird.

Meanwhile, all my fantasies have to do with guys, so whatever.

>>6030439
>
http://www.newhopeforwomen.org/abuser-tricks
Very good list. Also there is a PDF file linked to on that page with simple wheels for good and bad traits of lovers.

>>6030492
Kayla is taking queues from her environment. Not her mom. She needs to leave her mom far behind, who BTW would fail that list above.

>>6030549
You'd be surprised at how often I've had guys run roughshod over what my needs were. Often a slap was necessary to get them to stop and listen. What is worse? Their ignoring my needs, or my having to slap them to get listened to. BTW, I ended up eventually dumping all those shits.

>>6031082
>I would think the guys who don't touch their trans girlfriends dicks at all and want her to get rid of it as soon as possible (even putting priority on her getting SRS over FFS first) are completely straight.
NO. For some a feminine body is one set of lusts, and a masculine body is another set. Back in my pre-op days, one of my exes, 3.5 year long relationship with him. He never once touched my crotch, even though he touched everywhere else on my body. I wasn't his only mistress at the time. He had others, and one was this hunk of a guy, sadly quite brainless. They did lots of anal together.

>>6031116
That's why "unknown"... There could be multiple things happening.

>>6031330
>and now I desperately want them to the point of crying about it every few days.
My only help for that was age... As I got older it got less and less. Still I spent 20 years in that state. It's a wonder I'm still sane.

>>6028629
This happened to me, but without hormones. It happened after realizing I was trans.

>>6031304

Hmm, I don't know much about the bipolar disorders. Does the medication they give you (if you are on any) make your mood swings less frequent, or does it make them less extreme? That does sound like a bad list of problems. Have you tried to improve your life, at least for yourself? Maybe the aspiration of having children could give you the push you need to improve your life enough to have them.

But if you're that concerned you may ruin a child's life, you can rest well in the knowledge that you'll have a much harder time getting any since you don't have a womb.

>>6031341

>20 years

I didn't know we had trannies who've been on HRT that long.

>>6028629
>Can/Does HRT affect something like our sexuality? It seems odd to me that it would, and I can't really see how it would in any way.. but since that remains true.. what the hell is going on?! lol

I don't see how that's surprising at all. 90% of the time men like women and women like men. That's because hormones tell them to.

That'll probably be less for transwomen because nature vs nurture and already having did the nature thing once as a dude. But it shouldn't be a shocker either if turning your body into a womens makes you like men/like men more.

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>>6031370
HRT is for life. ;)

This lady was 70 back in 2005 when this pic was taken. At that point, if I read her history right, she had been on hormones for over 49 years. Over 59 years now as she's now 80yo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Pierre_Pruvot
http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TSsuccesses/Bambi.html

>>6031456

I meant in the sense I didn't think there would be any here on /lgbt/. Do you mind telling your story from when you realized you were trans up until your early transition?

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>>6031456
41 in this picture she looks great


Does anyone know when she started HRT? Looks like test has done some work on her during puberty but it's not too bad, doesn't seem that tall either

I'm assuming that when she started the regimen was way different than what most transgirls use nowadays

>>6031498
I just read that document again, seems like she started HRT at 20

>>6031504
It's 20 or 21.
Yeah, she likely got 8 to 14mg E a day to suppress T production. Spiro was only just starting to get used when I started in the mid '80s.

>>6031469
Short version: I transitioned back in the bad old '80s. Parents on teaching fellowships disowned me and kicked me out when I came out to them at 15. They told family back home which also disowned me. At that point I was without a home in a foreign country, USA, and barely knew English. Got on gov support as an emancipated minor, saw my transition costs go from covered, to not. Still, I didn't starve. Finished HS while working part time jobs to pay the bills. Despite getting a physics+teaching degree with honors in my female name and wanting to teach, I ended up going from sugar daddy to sugar daddy because nobody would hire me with male gendered documents. At least I looked pretty. Allowances from sugar daddies allowed me to pay off my college loans. Years after I finally got srs, while waitressing, one of my former sugar daddies arranged for a royal decree from his sovereign, and got me female identity papers. That was liberating. It gave me a new found sense of freedom. It also allowed me to get a teaching job. My youthful beauty had ran out.

>>6031854
So sugar daddy is the way to go? Were they all nice? How did you meet them, I'm 24, how much youthful beauty do I have left?

>>6031082
You would think that, but you would be wrong.

If they were completely straight, they wouldn't be able to do anything sexual with you in the first place. Even after srs.

>>6030834
>>6028629

Fucking HAWT.

>>6031854
Sugar is sweet, victory is sweeter. GJ anon.

>>6032495
>So sugar daddy is the way to go?
not really. Job security sucks.
>Were they all nice?
no, but you ditch those fast.
>How did you meet them,
high end bars, yacht clubs, country clubs, etc..
>I'm 24, how much youthful beauty do I have left?
depends on your genetics. For some, you are over the hill, for others, just starting your beauty streak. Mine went poof around 30...

>>6031854

When I read stories like yours (and Marie Pruvot's), I really doubt I would have managed to transition at a young age some decades ago. It really seems like a whole other level of difficult.

Yo OP you are beautiful

>>6033522
>>6032549

Take a drink of water, senpai.

>>6032497
>If they were completely straight, they wouldn't be able to do anything sexual with you in the first place. Even after srs.
nice b8 m8

>>6033811
It's not bait, it's a fact you idiot. I'm sorry that you're completely incapable of arguing against it and have to call it bait to feel good about yourself.

Am I the only tranny here who isn't completely delusional?

>>6034803
>It's not bait, it's a fact you idiot.
Actually, it's an opinion. Your opinions may be strongly held, and may even be commonplace, but they're still your opinions.

>hugboxing some caked up transvestite
4chan, 4chan never changes

>>6028629
You're fantasizing and you believe that a true woman is held and protected by large muscled men that ask for beer and sandwiches. It's a common thing to happen to many people especially when starting out.

>>6034812
4chan is the furthest place from a tranny hugbox that you could possibly get barring Stormfront or TERF wordpress blogs.

>>6034848
Haha how delusional are you?

>>6034855
How delusional are you? You're literally posting here right now trying to drag trans people down and absolutely no one is stopping you from doing so, or even discouraging you.

This is YOUR hugbox.

>>6034863
Have you never seen the pretty princesses of /mtfg/ like yume? Sorry if you think laughing at you is dragging trans people down. I know this is your hugbox safe space and all that.

>>6034863
4chan can be even more hug boxie than susan's playground.

>>6034811
It's not an opinion. Straight sex occurs between a man and a woman, not a man and a transgendered person.

>>6034883
>can

Exactly, just like it 'can' have a bunch of people spewing anti trans rhetoric

A hugbox is a community where everyone shares the same opinion without confrontation, this clearly doesn't apply to 4chan.


>wow someone called a non passing tranny cute, stop the hugboxing!!

fucking retards

>>6034886
That's wrong

Straight sex also occurs between a man and a woman with a feminine penis.

>>6034874
>>6034883
I'm sorry if the truth oppresses you, but this isn't a hugbox. If it were a hugbox, you couldn't say whatever the hell you wanted to about anybody... as you're doing now. Maybe you should stop playing the victim all the time and get triggered elsewhere.

>MUH FREE SPEECH

>>6034886
>trannies don't agree with my opinions
>stop oppressing me ;-;

>>6034886
The meanings of words are just opinions, if you define straight as just being equivalent to heterosexual then sure two XY people having sex is not straight but I think it's more useful to use the word to refer to the relationship dynamic of the couple. Before the 19th century when the terms heterosexual and homosexual were coined the notion of straight or normal sex also included men topping boys.


This definition game is stupid though, whenever we have these threads people say that straight guys aren't attracted to trannies, whenever someone points out to a guy that calls himself straight and likes trannies he just gets accused of actually being bi. The initial assumption that a straight guy wouldn't want a tranny is unfalsifiable because any guy that does is assumed to not be straight.


Also why wouldn't you want guys to think that fucking trannies is straight? You know guys are insecure about being called gay, we need to keep reassuring them that having sex with cute trannies is perfectly normal and their masculinity is not in question. Don't you want hot straight guys to fuck you? Why the hell are you transitioning? Are you some kind of hon-tier transbian?

>>6034848

Until thirsty chasers come along.

>>6034996
They post a deluge of equally if not disproportionately abusive shit to their select few white-knight posts to make themselves seem more attractive in comparison to the anonymous people they pretend to be.

4chan is probably the easiest place to neg vulnerable targets for emotional or sexual abuse.

>>6033506
Back than finding out about medical transition as an option was hard. I had help from my shrink. I'm not surprised many didn't find out. I knew at 15, but didn't get hormones until 18.

>>6034937
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>>6034983

>I disagree because muh feelings

Opinions discarded.

Being honest with myself leaves me invulnerable to feeling like shit about being a tranny. All of the things that bothered me, I have coped with them because of my honesty to myself.

You should do the same so that you can live on without the shit feels having any chance. Your delusions could be pushed aside like nothing. Just look how mad you got at me pointing out that you're never going to fuck a truly straight man in your life.

If a man feels insecure that he's not 100% straight, then he should cope with the fact that he's a little bit homo. It's not on me to delude him, and he shouldn't be deluding himself, for his own good.

Taking shortcuts leads to lower-quality outcomes. You're emotionally vulnerable and weak, because you take the easy way and delude yourself.

On top of it all I sure as shit don't think anybody should be forced to fuck us because "muh feelers" and "lol trannies are totally normal girls, because of muh feelers, so if you don't fuck me it's a hate crime"

>>6035552
You didn't actually address any of the points in my post >>6034983, nor did you answer my questions


I'm not deluded what so ever and I didn't get 'mad' over you pointing anything out. You're really trying to preach to the wrong person
>You're emotionally vulnerable and weak
Yeah you don't know me at all you're just trying to stroke your own ego thinking you're the smartest tranny around


>On top of it all I sure as shit don't think anybody should be forced to fuck us because "muh feelers" and "lol trannies are totally normal girls, because of muh feelers, so if you don't fuck me it's a hate crime"
Yeah now I'm just convinced you're baiting since no one said that in any of the posts, please fuck off

>>6035683
I did address your points though, and dismissed your questions on the grounds of:
>muh feelings

That's what it all boiled down to.
>Also why wouldn't you want guys to think that fucking trannies is straight?
This is the part where you basically state "I only say that they are straight because I wish it really was that way"

You are both deluded and mad. Deluded because you're denying reality. Mad because of the manner of your posting.

I know you're emotionally vulnerable and weak because you have to lie to yourself so you can feel happy.

>Yeah now I'm just convinced you're baiting since no one said that in any of the posts, please fuck off
Nobody said it, but if you follow your line of thinking (i.e. pretending that guys who sleep with us are completely straight), that is directly where it leads.

>>6035683
Funny thing is that post did answer all of your questions, you're just too dumb to read properly. Do you need the questions posted out one-by-one and answered like you would explain to a child?

The only questions that did go unanswered were the ones that were purely insults.

>>6035720
All you did in your post is say my opinion is discarded because of feels and then just tried to give me unapplicable life advice.


>This is the part where you basically state "I only say that they are straight because I wish it really was that way"
I was mostly joking with that last paragraph but I don't think it's unreasonable to want to change social perception surrounding what is considered straight, it's just part of society changing.

>Nobody said it, but if you follow your line of thinking (i.e. pretending that guys who sleep with us are completely straight), that is directly where it leads.
Again, if you define "completely straight" as "completely heterosexual" then by definition two bio males having sex is not straight, but there's a reason those are 2 different words. Saying that a guy who is gynpehilic (that is attracted to femininity/females) and would be down to fuck a tranny is "straight" is not unreasonable, and there's plenty of self proclaimed straight guys who agree.


>>6035725
She just said "Opinions discarded" and then tried to psychoanalyze me. It just feels silly because she's convinced I'm a "deluded tranny" when I'm really not, I never even claimed I'm trans

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Hi, OP again.

I hadn't really come this board before, I thought it was supposed to be like.. More open or whatever. I've heard less hatred and ignorance on /b/ lol

I guess this is just how things are.

Which is fine, I don't care. A lot of people are butt hurt though, on both sides. Everybody has different opinions, it's legit. It's the world.

This thread became incredibly detailed! But anyways. Thanks for the responses, I stopped following for awhile because I felt like I received a fair amount of answers from other trans girls that understand what I'm going through.

To everybody else? Thanks too.

>>6035935
I am terrified of being a transgender or transexual. I was at age 5 wearing nail polish and pantyhose and writing poetry. 13 cutting myself, etc. All the cliches.

I'm 23, but developmentally I'm 18 including physically and now, ONLY NOW is reality starting to set in that despite my best efforts to escape reality, I'm stuck with this. My sex drive kicked on and like a freight train it hasn't stopped screaming at me. "WROING WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG ALL OF THIS IS WRONG ALL WRONG"

however, I'm not even 10% attracted to men. I only recently started wishing I was bisexual in fact I've tried so hard to imagine it that I've finally sorta got a situation where i could see it happening, but it involves a ton of spiritual hoop jumping like wiring a stereo-system in a threesome to get there....and when I wake up from my day-dreams I still hate all boy body parts by default. They scare me. I don't want any of it. it's gross...I wish I had a vagina and boobs though :(

So what do I do? Is HRT something I should consider? I'm not considering it, just meta considering because I notice striking similarities (This is day 1 of research and speaking openly anywhere online) between this thread and my own diary and text messages to close friends (might as well be the same thing).

Shout outs to the NSA wiretaps and the corporate scheme that knew I was trans before I did based on search results and music preferences and such and started marketing me tons of girl stuff like shampoo and such online YEARS ago.

Joke is on them, I'm immune to CORPORATE(TM) malware. I am deeply however infected by SOCIETY(TM) malware and REGIME(W) malware.

My new female operating system is still being compiled in my cyborg brain. I haven't yet considered the possibility of upgrading his fluids :P

You look sweet and adorable by the way and that is the first time I have ever said that to a "guy". I love you whoever you are anon. I don't like boy parts but you are cute.

>>6028850
I wanted to be lesbian, since I knew I got along with other girls best, but I've stopped denying things as lately I just don't care. I grew out of my feminist generalizations and TERFishness and into the humanist reality that people must always be who they are. Don't bother worrying about where you will go, Be YOU and be happy.

>>6030197
^YEAH THAT^

Let's get away from the BS assumption that women aren't violent.

>>6029797

>being trans effectively halves your dating pool (and that's a generous estimate), since not everyone is willing to date a trans person.

More like divides it by three or four, from what I've seen, at least as far as men are concerned.