Anons, I need your help with one thing, basically a simple question

>>5966133
do you think you're a male/female?
do you like being a male/female?

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>>5966133

>>5966139
>do you think you're a male/female?
I don't really know, this bugs me out. Biologically I'm obviously male but there's something wrong with me.

>do you like being a male/female?
Hell no, when I go outside I feel like everyone is looking at me and I'm super uncomfortable with myself.

Give me a more complex set of questions please, This is not really giving me confidence in myself and what I am.

>>5966142
>I keep getting near the end (that green box) but repeating the chart over and over.
FML I'm getting more confused now.

>>5966165
What exactly are you getting stuck on? We can always update anon's chart.

>>5966133
If you transitioned then you're trans.

>>5966142
Wtf? So im only trutrans if im comfortable with my body but want to be opposite sex regardless?

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>>5966200
Well Both red boxes at the end.

First one because I'm from an abusive family, my dad and mom used to fight a lot when I was a kid and it was quite ugly so I'm super scared of them finding out about those things, I'm already the failure of the family to begin with, I don't want them to get angrier.

And if I somehow had no doubts about that one and moved on, I hit the other red box. I lurked a lot on this board and from what all I have seen neovaginas are just terrible, all those horror stories I have read here, like super infections, it not looking or working properly, etc.
I don't want to have one of those non working vaginas that are full of issues, which is the "if you have doubts about a characteristic go back to the start".

I don't know every time I read that box and it asks me, do you have doubts? I almost scream "YES I HAVE LOTS OF DOUBTS THAT'S WHY I'M HERE" or something like that.

So... anyone still here that can help me out? I'm honestly as lost as when I arrived here, I don't know what to do.

>>5966223
No, you misinterpreted the chart.

You are EITHER comfortable in your body, but still desire to be opposite sex (yes at first box) OR you have body issues, that are not caused by something sex-unspecific (no at the two following boxes).

Just because you can reach a box on two paths doesn't mean those two paths have the same meaning.

Just because

>>5966149

I seriously doubt you're trans, OP. It sounds more like you have social anxiety and some self-esteem problems. Definitely talk with a therapist though. Both of these problems are treatable.

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>How can I know if I'm trans?
>basically a simple question

ahahahahahahahahahahhaa

Sorry but if you don't know now you'll NEVER know for sure

Trust me I've been in this whole for 10 years lol

>>5966142
>would you feel comfortable being the opposite sex for the rest of your life
>would you feel comfortable with being infertile (etc., etc.)
how the fuck are you even supposed to know if you never were the opposite sex and stuff

>>5966480
>Sorry but if you don't know now you'll NEVER know for sure
Don't do this to me anon, I'm desperate here I don't want to jump the gun without being super sure that I'm trans.

>>5966464
I'm sure I have all those things you said, Maybe I didn't explain properly on that answer but when I said hell no, it meant hell no, I don't like being a guy I feel like shit when people look at me and it's like I'm doing something completely wrong, I kinda get jealous too when I see pretty girls happy I'm so stupid.

>>5966223
Learn to read flowcharts, idiot.

>>5966242
>I lurked a lot on this board and from what all I have seen neovaginas are just terrible, all those horror stories I have read here, like super infections, it not looking or working properly, etc.
That's a meme. Most neovaginas look and work totally adequately, especially ones crafted by Thai surgeons (Dr Suporn is bae).

>>5966545
Ask any cis person how they'd feel about spending the rest of their life as the opposite sex. Contrary to popular belief, all boys /don't/ secretly want to be girls.

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Rule of thumb: cis people don't think about this kind of shit, so that should be a healthy indicator of something. I mean, I'm a cis guy, and aside from absentmindedly wondering what life would be like as a girl, ultimately I'm happy as a man. I enjoy being tall, I enjoy having big hands and hairy legs and a dick, and I love my beard. To say that I'd be upset if I woke up tomorrow as a woman would be an understatement.

Sounds more like you're a faggot OP (no surprise there)

>>5966133
Go to a therapist and find out. People here will only troll you or give you some kind of stupid picture like >>5966142
And that shit won't help you at all.

>>5967152
>likes being male
This has to be a shitposter.

>>5966133
>How can I know if I'm trans?

Then you're not trans.

>>5966575
>I don't like being a guy I feel like shit when people look at me and it's like I'm doing something completely wrong, I kinda get jealous too when I see pretty girls happy

You have poor self esteem. Are you a virgin? Have you tried going out with a girl?

>>5966133
Yes you are.

I really hope OP falls for the trans meme.

>>5968671
The only shit post here are the dicks you take up your tranny ass

>>5967152
That good feel of being a normal non degenerate cis person. I'm glad most people don't fall for the wrong body meme but i'm also glad some people fall for it just to laugh and exploit them.

>>5966133
> How can I know?

Generally, I used a simple maxim in middleschool that still holds true - if this wasn't a phase or fetish, I'd have plenty of past experiences ranging into childhood, especially pre-puberty (or at the beginning of puberty, e.g. discovery of body hair, etc. etc.) to support it In my case, I had plenty.

A shame, since I 100% realized I was trans *that* early. I was terrified of friends and family chastizing me, and I didn't want to be an identifiable 'freak', so I kept quiet until university. Even fetishized the entire thing and lived out my dreams in fantasy for the longest time. Damn shame.

>>5969247
Did friends chastise you?

>>5966133
sure, you're trans. you'll ruin your live by transitioning though, so don't do that - just deal with it like everyone else with mental problems.

>>5969260
Oy vey, what are you doing! OP is trans, let her transition. I'm already salivating on all that pharma money and delicious 'therapy' cash flow. Don't get me started on the amount of money GRS will take in or i might soil my pants.

>>5969257
To be honest, after graduating uni most of my friends kinda drifted apart. Convenient, since it let me finish my transition in peace and develop a new circle of friends I'm closeted to.

From the start, I just wanted to be an ordinary girl. I pass decently enough to achieve that, but it *could* have been so much better. I could not have wasted my youth perpetually distracting myself and just been your typical highschooler, probably pretty enough to catch the eye of most of the boys.

I was flipping through old pictures and middle-school me was adorable. I can see why people kept mistaking me as a girl back then. Nothing can be done about it, but I still regret so much.

>>5969260
Most people with mental problems get them treated by a professional.

>>5969238
I fell for it and I learned my lesson. Never play around with a psychiatric problem, but deal with it in a safe realistic manner so you can overcome it.

>>5969301
But they can't make you decide and even they have biases. I went to several so far and most of the time I had to help myself and develop self-agency.

Can I ask a stupid question here?

I've seen bi and asexual people categorized as agps in a blog. Would being anything other than homo (straight tfem) make you agp? Or is it simply if you find the activity of changing gender exclusively sexual/erotic?
(Sorry for bad wording)

>>5969484
> Would being anything other than homo (straight tfem) make you agp?

Nah, and besides, testosterone is a hell of a drug, and can bend your sexuality fairly severely.

Like, I went from totally straight (liking women) to totally straight (liking men). I guess that's kinda what happens when you go from stupidly high T to high E and low T.

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OP here.
I guess I'm not trans then from what you all are saying. I'm still confused as hell but I guess it's at least one less thing to be confused about myself.

>>5967152
I'm sure there's something wrong with me, as you said normal people don't think about those things. I just wanted to be sure about what's wrong with me to a certain extent at least.

>>5968362
That's the thing, I kinda wanted to ask you guys and girls about this stuff before I went to a therapist, It just feels like I would waste both our times and feel a lot of shame since I had those doubts about myself.
I kinda wanted to be sure of some things before I even went there.

>>5969247
I used to dress up with my sisters and I actually liked being a girl with them from 6 to 9 years old. Then we stopped doing that for a while then when I was older I kinda wanted to dress and go out as a girl again during highschool (obviously hiding from my parents because they still scare the shit out of me), guess it was just some weird quirk I had.

After that I didn't do anything girly for quite a while, I was always scared of someone finding out I did those things when I was young, kinda weird but I even did a lot of sports to "forget" all that stuff.
I have had some occasional hickups though I can tell more about them if any of you need.
>>5969218
I guess it makes sense, if I'm not sure that means I'm not that I guess.

And yes I have terrible self esteem. I dated a girl once but I wasn't really into it and I don't really like being "myself".

>>5969247
That's what's I'm lost here, there's been moments of my life where certain things happened then I kinda let that feel pass while still feeling like shit but basically trying to forget those moments.

I guess those where the only questions / answers related to me on the thread, right? Sorry if I missed anything also sorry about the wall of text.

>>5969943
Just get hormones, try 'em out. Nothing bad will happen if you go on them for a couple weeks and decide you don't like it.

Heck, you could probably get away with a few months with few problems unless you fluke out in the chesticle department.

>>5969943
>I'm still confused as hell but I guess it's at least one less thing to be confused about myself.

Maybe you are not so confused as you think you are. But take your time, there are other things in your life to focus on.

>>5969943
>I have had some occasional hickups though I can tell more about them if any of you need.

Like what?

>>5969994
>Just get hormones

Why does OP need hormones?

>>5970026
Because time is the enemy of all transitioners and a lifetime of regret awaits you from indecision, and you're better off taking the plunge if you're on the fence and try them out?

I mean, you'll *know* if you don't like it.

>>5969994
I don't think it would be easy to get hormones and I also believe I shouldn't take any medication without being sure about my condition (I'm also kinda scared of taking something without medical recommendation, yes I'm a pussy).

>>5970026
>Like what?
Well, as I said, I kinda try to forget those things but from time to time I kinda want to dress like a woman and act like one instead of your average guy.

I also sometimes look at a girl and I kinda imagine what would be life if I was in her place instead of mine.

These are usually the hickups I have nowadays but I usually try to not have them all the time it just makes me more confused and feel like shit, well worse than I already do daily.

But as I said, I don't do the stuff I did back when I was at highschool anymore (like going out as a girl).

Also as I mentioned earlier. I guess the reason I stopped with all this stuff is because I don't want people to find about all this weird stuff and I don't want people to think I'm a creep.

It's probably some weird kind of fetish I guess I don't really get hard at it though, I don't even masturbate that much.tb h

>>5970063
2 issues:

>Because time is the enemy of all transitioners and a lifetime of regret

Guess what's also the enemy?: Genetics. If you are unpassable what's the point of living as the opposite gender? It's not really time you should worry about.

>you're better off taking the plunge

Jumping to conclusions is never good. It can lead to faulty decision making. When you are interested in rebuilding your life it is better to work through your issues and plan.

>>5970066
>I'm also kinda scared of taking something without medical recommendation

No, that's smart.

>instead of your average guy.

Ah, you're trying to be a stereotype? The guys you see in media for example are all actors and not representative of all of them.

Why not just be *ahem* yourself? Have your own persona and identity, embrace both what is feminine and masculine about you. You don't have to become a woman and honestly it's impossible. You will always be you, and even you yourself can't change that.

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OP you just sound like a scared trans girl.
We can't make this decision for you, but I think you should go for it.
Start therapy to overcome your anxieties and live the happy life you deserve.

Also, you don't need to go through with SRS if you don't want to. It won't make you any less of a girl.

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The world plunges further into insanity.

This >>5971269
You're most likely a transgirl that has a couple more issues than the average transgirl.

How old are you right now? Have you considered going to therapy and maybe talking to your family about it?

>inb4 the tru trans and agp army arrives here to shit over OP that's asking a legit question and needs help.

>>5967152
>>5967070
That sounds like a logical fallacy
Just because 90% of cis people either don't think about that stuff doesn't mean it's impossible to fall under the 10% that does
Not everyone is clearly on one side either