/mtfg/ - free market mtfg

>>5945606
DONT
TREAD
ON
ME

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Reminder that pork and alcohol is haram.

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nty for tfw no precum soaked penis to suck

How to cope during the 5+ years it's going to take me to save up for ffs on a minimum wage job with unsupportive parents?

First for blind date tommorow!

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Hello,
I only come on here because I have an insatiable curiosity about mtf transitioning and women who have gone through the process in general.

Just thought I'd let you know, there's an infiltrator watching

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>>5945579
>tfw watching the raw broadcasts together with /a/ almost a decade ago
GEASS SUNDAYSSS

>>5945592
geass started originale totino then ended up being gundam 0079

>>5945614
Hi

>>5945596
That is is, she's getting me back up to speed. Don't feel bad though! I know lite of other stuff because of how I grew up. I can fix cars and drive anything, I could build a house on my own, minus some of the plumbing anyhow, I know a shit ton of survival skills and a boatload of other shit. Posted from the other thread

>>5945609
Which is why I felt the need to find someone not specific to just trans issues.

I found >>5945593 and feel like besides getting a letter she's been helping me with other aspects of my life. I don't talk about myself to anyone so it was really nice to have a level-headed person help me talk about things on my mind.

It also helps that my insurance has completely covered it.

>>5945618
>insatiable curiosity about mtf transitioning
you're a tranny harry

>>5945619
>tfw i was too young for geass sundays and now exoerience the meme retroactively on /a/ constantly
You have no idea how depressing this is to me
I would love to know how everyone reacted when the silliest episodes happened. Like one million zeroes. And table.
>>5945616
I still feel bad.

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>>5945620
H-hi

>>5945617
Hey I saw a lady who looked so much like you i did a double take today. Nuts.

>>5945606
Live free or die

>>5945617
Have fun! How did you set that up?

>>5945627
>Which is why I felt the need to find someone not specific to just trans issues.

mine mainly treated normal people.
she was just shit at reading me. She literally called me well adjusted while my other psych was pushing me to institutionalization it was glorious

>>5945618
feel free to ask questions

>>5945628
Not that guy.

I only come here to prevent myself from giving in an transitioning.

But I still need to offset that feeling of wanting to be a girl. observing you people. Makes it less painful and always reinforces it's impossibility for me.

>>5945617
How did you do that ?

>tfw probably going to kill myself long before I have enough money to fix my face
even thinking about how daunting and impossible that amount of money is sends me into a panic attack. how the hell do you do it?

>>5945628
maybe I am, it all started when I saw a crossdresser at university. If not for my friends all being around I'd have made a move. One of my biggest regrets, had a fantastic arse.

As a kid I had a phase where I looked like a girl, would use girls bathrooms and do girl things. Went to hairdressers and I can even remember playing with barbies as a youngun but my ma and dad saw nothing wrong with it and I just naturally stopped.

it seems only to be a sexual interest now, not for me to do it but the idea of lovemaking with someone who does

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>>5945630
the biggest shitstorm was when schneizel self-checkmated because of how fucking stupid it was
also it was nice back then, after r2 ended there was the 00 gundam s2 hype train and all the retardation that brought along, and toradora after, then k-on killed the board to what it is now

>>5945636
Sometimes i wish that i could hang out with you but i know deep inside of myself that if i ever tried, i would be a pile of awkward and i would gross you out. So this here is the pinnacle of my relationship to you and I've learned to enjoy it as is.
How are you

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time to order new glasses. what get?
>>5945613
>tfw had both las night
am i absolutely haram?

>>5945617

guy or girl?

>>5945640
Give in to the dark side. Maybe I'll meet you in the future and I'll put a ring on it. You can be my woman and we'll both be happy.

>>5945638
>ywn hogtie ad down and tickle her feet until she pisses herself in glee

>>5945644
Oh honey you poor thing.

One of us, one of us

>>5945655
That's weird

>>5945643
It's easier if you had stayed a man. Like me.


It's easy to accept being ugly when you're a man.


You get to be cruel. You get to be angry. You get to be hateful.

It's a far better fate than feeling the same way and having no outlet.

>>5945645
Did people hype for ttgl
Also i always forget why schneizel checkmated. It makes sense in the episode but saying it out of context is so stupid. Fuck.

>>5945617
hope hes nice :3
you defo deserve a good man

>>5945657
Please just for me post your soles

>tfw you missed the debate about bacteria induced metaplasia turning a penis into a vagina because you were registering for your masters level biology classes

Fml senpai

>>5945656
well I dont feel bad for me anymore. At least now I;m exploring the whole LGBT thing, if my friends can accept this and I can find love and keep studying hard as I do things will be alright

>>5945664
its over, lily gave up

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>>5945653
I can't simply become a women.

My male side is too strong. I wouldn't look like a women even if all the estrogen in the world was pumped into me.

Even if I had this figured out when I was 5.

It's a physical impossibility. I was born with far too masculine features. so I have to suppress it.

Only literal magic could change that.

I've accepted my fate.

>>5945649
>I would be a pile of awkward
Oh come now, you underestimate how socially awkward I am, we could be awkward together and it would be good awkward fun.
That said I'm doing pretty OK, but I'm tired and nervous about being able to get my game dev project done for next week, too many features and not enough time ;~;
How are you today?

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>>5945658
Rossiu threads are why I started watching TTGL. I'm too old to be on 4chan ;_;

>>5945664
I dont doubt your biological knowledge, but Iam pretty sure you dont know how srs vaginas are made.
you might still be right in the grand scheme, Idk

>>5945664
It's that ironic
>>5945680
I'm gonna see batman superman! Two hunks duking it out for total hunkitude.
You're making a game? Why didnt i know about this

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>>5945661
yeah they did but i didn't really have an interest in them, he checkmated because he wanted to concede but it was just dumb

>>5945681
ALIVE AND FUCKING ALL THE BITCHES

>>5945681
>2007
Yikes

Also rossiu did nothing wrong

>>5945676
I hate reading things like this, it makes me feel so sad.
My senseless optimism screams "just go for it, give it your all its better than nothing" but its just too big a decision and life change to even go out throwing that advice to someone.

>>5945693
row row fight the power

>>5945676
I remember that repression strategy!
Sucks to be there. Hope you find your way out.

Afternoon mtfg. Who else is ready to have a terrible day?

Is it really true that female therapists will give you a letter quicker than male therapists?

curious
http://strawpoll.me/7228832

>>5945706
I'm already having a terrible day

>>5945707
no. but theyre easier to fool into thinking youre doing great

>>5945681
Its so weird to see others experiencing the same obscene hate i did when i watched the show. I saw it in 09 when it came out on netflix, watched like, almost the entire series in one night. It was great. A heavenly experience.

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>>5945676
trip on pleb.
>>5945706
i wasn't ready, but it's happening.

>>5945711
iktf
how are you affording ffs by the way? where did you get the money from? I'm feeling kind of hopeless about it atm

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reply to this post if you want into my secret club discord chat

disclaimer: reply does not gauruntee u access to the boy's club

>>5945685
Yah I have no clue what they use, just the exact anatomy of both and the tissue types, and all your basic biology fundamentals, I found the one mention of a paper saying it transforms somehow without metaplasia from the 50s, but I wouldn't trust him explaining it by saying that everyone has to understand that the tissue is no longer vaginal or penial after the surgery.... (Literally a nonsense explanation to how he thinks his cultures proved it happened)

http://strawpoll.me/7228869

>>5945722
I want in
I think I actually have discord still installed

>>5945718
I worked for the money
It took some time though

>>5945722
>its another fat autist wants more tranny harem-episode
Go. Stay go.

>>5945722
>boy's club
can i find a bf there

>>5945734
*farts on u're mommy*

>>5945722
are men allowed in? i understand if we aren't.
>>5945726
angie plox.

>>5945731
fuck
it's going to take me so many years, idk how I'm going to cope
I live in the UK, it's basically impossible to get a full-time job if you're under 25 at the moment

>>5945689
I'm jelly, that's actually one superhero movie that I wanted to see, because it's freaking batman vs. superman.
Yeah I've made a few simple ones this term for one of my classes but this is my final project. I gave myself the task of putting together a retro style bullet hell in less than 2 weeks with other assignments to do as well ;_;

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>>5945722
what if I'm a full blown man who just wants to hang out with you goys

>>5945741
yeah gimmie a way to send ur an invite
>>5945727
i literally cannot find you on skype rn i think im losing it

>>5945711
>>5945717
Well, I'm getting on this ride. Gonna explain transphobic tropes to a bunch of well-intentioned cis people for, like, four hours.

>>5945753
[email protected]
>>5945754
sounds fun. i gonna play stardew and feel bad about being a man.

>>5945748
>retro bullet hell
I played undertale how do i into bullet hells

>>5945725
I have neither an interest in the studies nor the argument itself, I was just making an observation from the outside based on your sloppy phrasing.
your phrasing in the last thread suggested it was impossible to have epithelial tissue in a neovagina, which is simply wrong (penile inversion technique uses urethral tissue, some other techniques have used skin grafts from the mouth (that was dropped though) and what suporn uses is supposed to be scrotum tissue, I assume he combines it with something, his exact method is still kind of a secret)

so stick your irony or explain yourself in a way non biologist with no clue can understand it.

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>>5945700
It's not so bad.

I've accepted it. That it was always impossible from the start. As strange as it sounds. That kind of concrete impossibility is a comfort to me. Since there was no other way. This was the way it was meant to be.

There won't be any regrets. Because there was nothing I could do. Except yearn.

And seeing others achieve it. That's enough for me. That's as close as I can get. But it's good enough.

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>>5945741
>plox
But pleb

>>5945754
Hmm, i don't care too much about stuff like that
I'm not a living trans encyclopedia for cis people

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>>5945753
my discord tag is #0509

>>5945753
>i literally cannot find you on skype

dont tell me you forgot my name

>>5945776
i need the name too desu

just

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Im having a sad day, and I'm not even sure why.
Im listening to the Final Fantasy X soundtrack and its just rolling me right back to my early teens, curled up and listening to this one track whilst I tried to work out all the weird shit i was feeling about gender and everything. It's really weird thinking about that, being so confused about who I was and waht I wanted, from the perspective I have now of actually being vaguely happy with who I am for the first time ever.

I dont know, it's weird feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5lyc2gLri4

>>5945770
Something I'd rather avoid, but the alternative would suck a lot, for a lot of people. And one of those people would still be me.

>>5945722
let me in so I can lust over the women.

>>5945769
can you like gib face then? i don't want man: the face anymore

>>5945797
this isnt an mtfg room so theres not really many transgirls

its just people i know

>>5945761
If you're looking to give a bullet hell a try then a good starting point is probably one of the touhou games. I don't know a lot about those though, the only one I actually own is perfect cherry blossom ;~;
Most Cave shooters are pretty accessible and fun, mushimesama is on Steam now, and there's Western releases of dodonpachi resurrection (daifukkatsu in Japan) and akai katana, both are probably pretty good choices for someone curious about the genre.

At any rate I gotta go to class now but bye for now ;~;

>>5945801
mmm okay.

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>>5945735
I'll be your bf anon

>>5945761
Yo get on fightcade
download fever SOS, Aero fighters 2, Varth, Dodonpachi and some others whatever
its all good. there are loads of fun ones on there

fever sos is my personal favourite the music is great

>>5945813
sweet
are you tall?

>wearing a backless dress with a halter neckline
>shawl
>windy
>superhero shoulders
This was a bad idea

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>>5945817
6'1 desu, are you cute?

>>5945825
wow, thats tall
do you have feathers?

I think I'm going to do it. Is there any proof nitrogen exit bag won't collapse my lungs and cause me to die in agony?

>>5945825
nice

im cute in my dreams ;__;

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>>5945828
if you wanna buy me feathers I'll have some
>>5945834
pics

>>5945821
Cover them with superhero cape

>>5945837
meh, not like i live anywhere near you anyway, i'll just keep dreaming

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>>5945746

You can also cam to make up the difference.

>>5945830
if you havea pressure regulator, the peaceful pill recs it desu.

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>>5945844
where do you call home?

>>5945830
Why?

>>5945846
don't have the sexual performance for that, I can't fap to orgasm 3/4 of the time because hrt
otherwise it'd be a no-brainer to cam as a twink

>>5945851
yurop

>>5945853
I can't cope with living

>>5945849
hm those are only about a tenner on Amazon... I'm guessing that's a website you're referencing? I imagine I'll need a specific type of pressure regulator rather than, like, a scuba one or whatever so I should look that up.

>>5945863
get it from exit intl.

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>>5945830
>>5945863
If this is Coffee, you'll have an idea of who I am, I want you to log in to memeskill simulator right now and talk to me.

>>5945867
is that a website or what?

>>5945873
not that person sorry

>>5945863
Why can't you cope with living?

>>5945875
it's a pro euthanasia foundation.

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hi!!!!!

>>5945888
Those look like they'd become hell to wear after about an hour. Ball soup.
Furries are dedicated.

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>>5945888

Red let me live with you pls, its cold as fuck here.

>>5945886
cheers

>>5945885
multiple reasons I have no influence in improving

>>5945888
furries are so weird

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>>5945894
come to Texas! It's great here! I love my state!
>>5945892
yeah, when I wear my patials I have to take them off every 15 minutes

>>5945905

Take that back or i'll reattach your penis and suck you off.

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>>5945897
Suicide is never an option.

>>5945910
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT
thats so weird
I cant even

>>5945910
are you a boy?

>>5945913
Failure is ALWAYS an option

>>5945910
Do me too :D

>>5945916

I was being serious.

>>5945922
I am scared now

>>5945920
But if you don't do it right you could fail suicide and that's REALLY awkward.

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So close yet so far to look cis.

Seems like my chin/jaw/nose/ears need some work. Need to shape my brow better next time. And I finally Need to hit sephora or mac.

>>5945764
Well I mean there are pieces of a hundred lectures I'm trying to process to mention why, but

1. Tissue doesn't change its job in human adults, this keeps you alive, if your heart became skin tissue you'd die. This can happen in some rare cases, and it's a horrible uncontrollable life endangering disorder/disease
2. The small thin tube of ephilial tissue is not used to line your new vagina, no other penial tissue is ephilial tissue.

The proposition that there's a magical controlled transformation due to surgery of lead into gold basically breaks what we know about genetics

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>>5945909
Yeah Texas is nice.
I'm allergic AF to this time of year here tho so I'm not loving it so much right now.

>>5945931

Do people bully you down there for being trans?

>>5945924
it's worth a shot, even if I did nothing much would change

>>5945926
how is this okay

>>5945926
But the other girl is covered in makeup. Either way, you definitely look cis, and very pretty.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysusZfArPoI

>>5945941
I would love to have those makeup skills.

>>5945939
It's really not. She shouldn't compare herself to someone else. It's like textbook bad for you psychologically. Everyone here thinks she's pretty.

But it's hard to get that through to her.

>>5945946
Where does the line exist between bdd and dysphoria?

How normal is it to think you're not Trans after a short while on hrt?

>>5945949
>tfw your friend is really cute but she thinks she's a hon

i shitpost here because i have nowhere else to go and i cant let go of the past

>>5945953
ye

>>5945936
No one I interact with here knows yet I'm still doing boymode publicly. Ask me again later this year.

I don't think a lot of people I know even know much about trans.

>>5945956
I mean I'm not Trans?

>>5945953
Not trans how? As in you stop wanting to be a girl, or the dysphoria subsides significantly?

>>5945955
Same.

>>5945961
sorry, read your post wrong.

very common to feel like you aren't trans in the starting few months of hrt. When you start seeing big physical changes you will feel it again.

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>tfw trans

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>>5945971
IKTF

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>>5945946
Anon wait. This is called improvement. And I need to improve myself all the time.

Pic related. How improvement looks like. I was already 1 year hrt in the left one and people kept telling me I pass. I didn't believed them.

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>>5945830
>>5945863
>>5945897
>>5945938
It's hard to read things like this, because I know it is how people that I cared about were thinking when they killed themselves. Thinking in their depression that their situations were hopeless and that killing themselves was the only way to make things right. In those cases, at least, they were completely wrong about that, there were so many better possibilities still there for them, and hurt a lot of people that I know they didn't want to in the process. I don't know what your situation is, or how similar it is to theirs, and I don't mean to guilt you into this or that; I'm more writing this for me than you, to work through some memories.

>>5945964
As in I'm panicking that I'm not Trans. And hrt is a huge mistake. I just got chewed out by my doc for self medding. So far all the changes have made me really happy. But I have this overwhelming sense of dread

>>5945943
>tfw you will never be a nearly ageless cyborg living in a post-scarcity society.

>>5945977
im glad im not actually trans

you can never fix the jaw

>>5945986
the jaws better for holding dick, scientifically proven.

>>5945986
I'm pre jaw/chin surgery so who knows.
I want it to have this shape
>>5945926

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>>5945986
>you can never fix the jaw

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>>5945990
your jaw is fine desu

>>5945968
Fuck

>>5945986
> Tfw feminine jaw.
> Tfw only masculine facial hallmarks are my brow and moderate acne scarring.
> Tfw getting dermabrasion after type-3.

Feels good man.

>>5945953
I think it's pretty normal for that to come and go, both before and after starting HRT. If it persists or you start outright disliking what HRT is doing to you or something like that, then yeah you should probably do a bit of thinking, but if it's just the occasional "well I don't feel like I'm sure if I really hated being a guy as much as I thought, I don't know if I'm really a girl or just a feminine boy, I don't know if I'll be able to pull this off" type angst I don't think that's necessarily an indication that you aren't trans or shouldn't be transitioning.

>>5945931
spurs are trash desu

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>>5945985
The gender war is coming.

And men shall know no limits in their cruelty. They shall become inhuman to the point of nightmarish terror.

The patriarch will rise. And all enemies of Men will be crushed.

From women to the men who abandoned their gender and soughtbl to forfeit their manhood.


The Machines are coming.

They don't feel fear. They don't feel pity. They don't feel remorse. And they absolutely will not stop. Until you are dead.

>>5945981
That's very normal, I remember the feelings of doubt and dread. You're making a huge huge change in your life and it's easy to have doubts until the dust settles. Try not to worry too much about it ;~;

>>5945998
how does anyone afford FFS
I don't get it

hang on

http://strawpoll.me/7229768

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how to fix profiles that are horrid?

>>5946008
lmfao +1 for me actually responding

>>5946018
Grow out hair long enough to hide the jawline?

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Here's a comparison of pre to 6 months post

>>5946015
I can afford FFS on my own, but if I needed it my parents would probably offer to help. I had the money from that with only coop placements during uni.

>>5946015
FFS isn't *that* expensive if you're only getting one or two items. It's like $10k for type-3, which, while not a pittance, is easily achievable in a year, two in the worst case if you're willing to live pretty tight.

>>5946027
Wow beautiful progression

>>5946034
I need to go to Bart for jaw work, live in the UK

>>5946035
T-thanks

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>>5946034
I payed 8k for mine including one week stay and plane ticket.

>>5946010
Kindly kill yourself for crimes against literature, thank you

>>5946041
You look so much better after ffs. you don't need anymore.

> Tfw 35" hips.

Just shoot me, please.

>>5946041
What cyba says >>5946046

>>5946041
isn't chin + jaw more expensive though?

>>5946046
I do
>>5945926

>>5946021
they wont make it to the conference finals mark my words

>>5946051
Forehead itself is 4900 chin/jaw combo is 3500

>>5946046
I think a lot of people look better after ffs even if it's just slightly

>>5946034
I just need my jaw and chin fixed. Not feminised, strictly speaking, so I'll go to a plastic surgeon who specializes in that kind of work rather than a FFS one.

>>5946057
was that euros or dollars?

>>5946063
I'm expecting the minor FFS I'll get along with SRS in a few weeks will make a noticeable difference. And that's just a trachea shave and lip lift.

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>tfw 5 months hrt today
>tfw got my estrogen dosage upped from 4 to 6mg
>tfw test levels are super low
>tfw endo said my breast development is amazing so far
>tfw it's an amazing day out and I can finally go for a bikeride

>>5946013
Shit. Thanks. Does it get better tho?

>>5946041
>>5946057
wait what the fuck
all the proposals I've seen with Bart are 15000 to 20000 euros?

>>5946048
>tfw 45" hips
Being black has it's benefits

I am losing weight. Currently 100 kg aiming for 70. Do I wait nearly a year until that happens or do I start HRT now? I heard that HRT works better is you start thin because it's all about distributing new fat.

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good morning

>>5946053
but you look cis. you may not look like this perfect vision of feminine beauty, but you do look good and you do look cis.

>>5946079
ayyy awesome! nice to hear about something positive

>>5945953
ive been having the same fears lately, i think its normal. i hope so. otherwise my entire life leading up to hrt makes no sense at all

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>>5946105
CHICKEN IS A FLYING BURD

http://strawpoll.me/7229768/r

well shit, looks like you're pretty much fucked when it comes to FFS unless you have supportive parents

>>5946105
I've heard the basic reason to lose weight before HRT instead of after is because males have an easier time losing weight than females for biological reasons and starting HRT you lose that advantage.

You can still lose weight on HRT. I think if you continue to lose weight on HRT you'll eventually get a more feminine build. I think the "you better be rail thin" thing is partially fear based.

>>5946113
fucking parents man.

>>5946086
Yeah. You just start living your life. After a couple years full time the only time I ever doubt is when I have to do the annoying parts of transition. Surgery, legal changes, that sort of thing makes me doubt and ponder how weird it all is for a couple days.

>>5946108
Well we all have different ideas of what cis looks to us. Take a look at my pic >>5946027

I hardly looks cis, but nikky does

>>5946105
If you wait that's another year of T...

>>5946113
Supportive doesn't necessarily mean they paid for ffs.

>>5946113
>tfw the lone not ready with supportive parents

>>5946105
HRT, like everything in life, is best at a healthy weight. However the most important thing you have control over tends to be starting as young as possible. Start now.

>>5946118
Oh yeah this too I'm fat because I find it hard as fuck to stay thin, females having a lower metabolism is one of my main HRT fears. It's literally taken me three years to drop 10 kg, if it's any harder as a woman I'm fucked. I guess wanting my goal of transitioning is really strong motivation though so I'd start know if I was sure that weight loss wouldn't fuck up the results.

>>5946122
After two years of being full time, I know for certain I look, sound and feel cis to pretty much everyone IRL. A bit different here since we're all trans and we know it.

>>5946093
Full ffs delux was 18k for me. But I did only forehead.

>>5946108
It's really hard when your friends look like this and you see you don't. I'm afraid to go outside my room at work. Because I look so not complete.

>>5946135
HRT doesn't make it harder. Lost 20 kg in a few weeks. Granted, I starved myself to die, not to diet.

>>5946135
Just eat less.

Ffs is fucking expensive and I haven't even had it yet. It cost me $100 to book a 15 minute Skype call with Spiegel and I will probably pay another $250 for virtual ffs before then so I can have some idea of what I actually need to do

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I just got a $200 visa gift card from my family for my birthday, and I wanted to spend it on some qt clothes. I've been kinda scared to buy clothes before in case they found out, so I'm not really sure where to start. What are some good places to buy from?

>>5946120
Fuck so there's still this shitty self doubt long into transition? Shit I spend enough time trying to figure out whether the doubt is because I'm not Trans or because Ill never pass.

If this feeling keeps coming back this shit isn't worth it. I can't handle a lifetime of it

>>5946149
>what I actually need to do
Virtual FFS is snake oil

My doc upped my spiro from a measly 50mg to 100mg a pill.

Has anybody else who had their spiro upped, noticed any differences?

Will it make the random boners i get once a while go away?

>>5946153
I never had doubts about being trans, so I can't say. But I had some about my looks. Those are definitely gone for good.

>>5946156
Why? That would be really disappointing

Anybody else ever notice that you can kinda pull in your chest a bit and it makes your ribcage seem smaller? If I do this a lot will my body eventually adapt it to be my natural pose?

>>5946153
Not really? The self doubt in the last four years has only popped up during name change, gender marker change, and surgery. That's like three times. Haven't doubted in about a year and a half.

>>5946151
what country senpai?

>>5946168
Good old US of A

>>5946162
Because virtual ffs is only a projection

>>5946162
You're paying them to pitch a sale to you. You'll pay $250, it'll look amazing, and you'll feel like shit. And book ffs with them ASAP.

>>5946086
Absolutely, that was very early on. Those feelings started to fade with time, and by the time that I'd been full-time for a year, accumulated a bunch of memories living as a girl, and found a loving partner those feelings were entirely in the past. I may have shitty feelings of dysphoria from time to time, and I may have body image issues, but I have no doubt that I'm trans anymore.

So yeah, definitely gets better, although the time that takes can vary.

>>5946151
What kind of stuff so you think you need? If you're early-ish in transition try to just pick up cheap basics and not nice stuff because you'll change and stuff might not fit you anymore. I made that mistake :\

What's up. I don't usually post here, but here's the story:

I am pretty attractive, I'm smart, girls throw themselves at me, and I'm in a top class university. Life is nearly perfect, except for the fact that I secretly envy girls and fantasise about being one of them.

Does this mean I'm trans? And even if it does, should I just ignore it, I mean, my life is pretty great otherwise.

>>5946173
It's virtual ffs.co.UK, they claim they aren't affiliated with any surgeon. They have published research on sexually dimorphic facial features and a shitload of information on the website about ffs generally.

I have no doubt that seeing the photoshop will make me feel like garbage tho

>>5946178
If you can ignore it, yes. being trans is a constant struggle

if not then rip old you I guess

>>5946180
It does sound real but Its bad news bears sweetie. Steer clear.

>>5946178
Generally a good rule of thumb is that if you are thinking about it, you probably are trans.

>>5946185
:(

>>5946148
>what is appetite
I can ignore it until bedtime then I have to eat or else I can't sleep. And the whole time I ignored it I felt like utter shit.

>>5946175
>>5946167
How do I not Trans then. I don't think I can survive this long term

>>5946125
my queen......when will you post soles

>>5946027
from cave man to pig woman

>>5946176
Yeah I'm pretty early on so I don't have really anything, I was mainly looking for like a couple skirts and some knee socks/stockings, maybe something else. Mostly to wear in private because I'm a long ways from going out in public :/

>>5946113
or you could just work for a living and save the money yourself. put that ass up on backpage if you want it so bad.

>>5946193
You should probably see a psychiatrist. It's perfectly fine to spend time questioning whether you're not you're trans, and a professional could help you think about and ask the right questions of yourself.

>>5946195
Except the nose wasn't touched.
Your lack of orginality hurts my heart, man ;~;

>>5946190
Try to recognize when you are actually hungry and when you have appetite for something delicious.

Eat only when you are actually hungry. And it should be plain food nothing super delicious. Because hey, you ate hungry you don't care at this point.

Or you know do this calories in/out meme.

>>5946190
>eating before bed
There's your problem senpai, your metabolism slows when you sleep, so it's really bad to eat sooner than 3 hours before bed. Also, cut soda and other drinks, and drink a shitload of water. I did that before even measuring my food or exercising, and I lost 30 pounds in about 6 months almost on accident.

>>5946180
They're also associated with the "Chettawut victims" smear campaign, so I think their independence claims are bogus...

>>5946207
Whaaa? I haven't even heard of this, can you say more?

>>5946200
I did and he threw a diagnosis at me. My old therapist was pushing me to transition too.

I know this is right but it's too painful

>>5946196
I would just do like target or something, it's cheap basic stuff but if you're not wearing it out then it should do the trick and get you good value for the money.

http://www.hlntv.com/shows/dr-drew/articles/2016/03/29/trans-woman-conservative-spar-over-north-carolina-bathroom-law

Look how big that creature is

>>5946206
yeah drop soda forever. It let me loose like 10kg alone just by cutting it.

Drink only water or tea/coffee without sugar.

Hi mtfg, I hope you're doing alright today. One of my friends has committed suicide today and while it hurts a lot it's also a reminder of how valuable everyone is. If any of you are considering suicide please go geat help. You don't have to do it, there's always a better way. Each and every one of you is special in your own way, the world would be worse off without you. You make someone happy. You are important to people. You may not know it, they may not show it, but it's true. Stay strong friends, and talk to a friend of your own if you need help. Don't try and carry the weight of your sorrows yourself.
I love you all, even the people I usually hate here, I would still rather you be happy and posting than gone for good.

>>5946210
So take your pills, work on your voice, but make sure you have something else occupying and driving you forward on life. It does get better.
For me I expect every few years the concerns might pop up again, but I'm not as trutrans as elanna. And thinking about it that infrequently isn't bad.

>>5946193
You power through. You've already come pretty far down the path of acceptance, why go back? There were times that I considered doing that early on, because I hoped that it would fix what a mess it did to my life, and I hoped it would fix the self-doubt.

If you're truly not trans (which, if you're on hormones and actually liking what they're doing, is unlikely), then by all means, you can avoid transition. If you are trans though, then I'm afraid this is your life. This is our life. It does get better, but everyone who's trans has to go through the mental struggle of ripping away from their old life and old ways of defining themselves.

>>5946209
There's a bunch of copypasta blogs and a Facebook page throwing obviously phoney shit at Chett. The Facebook page also lists the "best" surgeons and Virtual FFS is obviously in the loop. The idea is seductive, but I really can't trust them.

>>5946217
>Southern women are big!!!

We know dipshit.

>>5946227
Talking about the frame, dunkoff

>>5946203
I try to eat when I wake up, at 1 and at 6. This works fine give or take an hour but bedtime I gotta eat something. My new plan is to halve breakfast and lunch to make a new fourth meal at 10pm but that makes the daytime tougher. Luckily I'm a fan of fruit so I have no problem snacking on that but even so I can and have easily gone overboard (gotten fat on apples can you believe). This is why I say fuck anyone who says weight loss is easy. Sure I can and have lost weight following calories in/calories out but you have to constantly watch every little thing you eat. A couple years down the line when you lose concentration due to work or study or whatever it all piles back on faster than you notice. If I have to watch even how many apples I eat this is bullshit man how do people stay thin without thinking about it?

>>5946220
I wanted to kill myself mostly for being undesirable and unloved. But my family love me so much that I couldn't do it to them.

But sometimes I'm afraid their love wont be enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KUjSiNwixs
>tfw you find the best mmd vid out there

>>5946241
Iktf

i wanna die because im not a cis†gender girl desu‡.

_______________________________________
†(not trans)

‡(to be honest)

>>5946246
>>5946235


/pol/

You girls are some of the most miserable pieces of shit that ever existed.

>>5946249
there arent any girls here anon

>>5946249
accurate
would still be interested in your reasoning tho

>>5946217
She definitely looks female though. Just really fucking tall.

I wonder how tall she actually is. It seems most people on TV are way shorter than you would think. Watch her only be like 6'.

>>5946250
You're right.
Ya'll act like gay men

>>5946248
why /pol/

>>5946249
Do fictional characters exist because I know a few that are more miserable than I am

>>5946257


>>/pol/


You have to go back.

>>5946249
yes
>>5946244
do u like slowcore

>>5946256
what if im a gay boy

>>5946260
why
I mean, pol is more fun, but this is more cozy

>>5946253
All everyone does is just whine about how their lives suck. Grow the hell up and deal with it.
It's sad when you have positive come here and shit on by you hons

>>5946202
it was a pig nose to start with but it didnt stand out as much before because you had your caveman brow and jaw distracting from it. the fact that im not the first person to comment on it should probably tell u something.

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i wish i could afford ffs.

even though i have a crimson chin, all i really want done is my brow/nose. i think thats the most important part of the face when it comes to how others perceive you. its what people look at first and most often, since it surrounds the eyes.

>>5946263
i think so, like codine, or like giles corey?

>>5946267
we re all hons here bby
if people on a cambodian flute carving board make you sad you arent really that positive in the first place

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>>5946249
Only on bad days

>>5946269
Ok
People are either going to like and or hate my nose. it's a mix opinion thing.
You're just trying to make me feel bad about it.

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>>5946249
I aint no girl desu

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>>5946264
>what if im a gay boy

>>5946286
not YET

>>5946278
yeah like codeine red house painters low etc

>>5946274
idk, i don't really have a strong browbone but a big square chin and i don't pass
So probably it's not that important
Also the outside silouette is pretty important

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>skims thread

a-am i the only happy girl who posts here?

>>5946294
Yes

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>>5946289
I'm a man desu

>>5946294
REEEE PASSERS GET OUT

>>5946294
>happy
>trans
pick one

>>5946298
:3
how old are you?
where do you live?

>>5946294
no

>>5946279
I'm always positive.
It's the people here that try to bring others down

>>5946294
Nope.

>>5946241
You are so pretty though. You have no idea how many men would literally flock to you like some kind of guiding beacon.

>>5946294
Nope.

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>>5946294
I'm neutral right now but anon is trying their best to bring me down

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>>5946302
22, Mississippi, hbu

>>5946313
so young ;~;

germany, 26

>>5946294
Happy posting is nice but too much is irritating. Sometimes I like to discuss more serious topics.

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>>5946315
>young
>only 4 years older

u wot

>>5946294
At the moment I'm not unhappy. It's refreshing desu.

>>5946318
I pretend to be female tho,
being 26 is young for men, but I am literally christmas cake ;___;

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>>5946294
I'm not happy, but I have to admit my life is really good at the moment.

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>>5946322
age aint much of a concern of mine to an extent desu

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>>5946249
>girls

>>5946326
are you looking for a qt gf here?

>>5946142
Wait... that means jaw/chin shave by your reckoning would only cost 6600 euros? That's, like, £5000, less than a rhinoplasty here at a generic cosmetic surgery clinic. How is that possible?

Does jaw/chin shave price vary from person to person? Surely it depends on how much has to be removed?

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>>5946330
I mean I like to hang out here with you goys, and I do prefer mtf

How do I be happy? I'm miserable and suicidal but I just want to be happy.

>>5946198
jeez I'll put my trip on now
can you imagine me making anything on backpage? even as a guy?

>>5946332
That's the surgery alone, I think. You have to tack anesthesia on top. And hospitalization for anything a bit heavy. That's why they say it's better to bundle several procedures.

>>5946332
I posted you the list a few days ago
Chin and jaw is 3300 for me plus around 3000 euros for anesthesia, hospital and guesthouse
But it's only the small version, you probably need the bigger version

>>5946307
Where I can find men like this though? Nobody wants a tranny here.

My blind date is a transvestite btw. People keep saying that my standards are too high so I am up to anyone at this point. I just want someone who would tell me I'm pretty IRL. ;_;

>>5946346
Not in Poland. Move to the first world. Where qt mtfs are are sought after and only murdered often

>>5946220
>the world would be worse off without you.
HA

It's true I don't want to hurt those who do care about me, idk why they do but it's enough fear atm to stop me from necking myself right this minute.

Ugh I hate shaving my legs! I just cut myself really deeply because I was in a rush

>>5946352
yea

>>5946341
Stay is like 980€ for a week for two.

>>5946346
Why not try dating sites? Like grindr or tinder idk

>>5946249
>not being a feelsposter
i bet you don't even listen to skramz
>>5946294
nah i think there are others.
>>5946290
oh, yeah i can dig it desu.

>>5946352
>cutting yourself while shaving legs
P C I e
C
I
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>>5946346
>blind date is a transvestite
Er... are you being rude and calling a trans person a transvestite or are they literally a crossdresser?

I think a transvestite would have a different idea of what you are than a trans person would.

>>5946354
Hotel like or fully medical?

>>5946352
I waxed one leg last week and even though i always exfoliate/put oil on it, i still have lots of ingrown hair

>>5946356
Nobody is using those in Poland. I tried our local queer.pl but trans people are unwanted there.

>>5946342
>But it's only the small version, you probably need the bigger version
ouch

>>5946341
hmm yeah looks like I'm still fucked, fair enough, fucking false hope

>>5946365
Do you have lots of money? What is your job?

Maybe you could go to a western country?

>>5946360
I'm not rude. He call himself a transvestite and his description says and I quote. 'Man with feminine side who love high heels and sexy pantyhose'

>>5946370
You can get jaw and chin surgery as an outpatient in some clinics, though.

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>>5946330
w-wait are you tryna mack on me or s-something?

>>5946373
That's a cis fetishist transvestite alright...

>>5946373
gross

>>5946373
Interesting...
All I can think of is the stereotypical transvestite. I'm sure you've seen pictures. Hopefully he's nice.

>>5946373
Are you into that?

>>5946360
I get hit on by transvestites all the time online
But i think they see me as something else as i want to
Also that's absolutely nothing i want in a guy

Also transvestites here are super strange, they always complain about trans people and how we think we are something better and "more woman than them"

>>5946373
Yep, those are the guys who hit me on a lot
Often they're really old too

>>5946377
no I have a boyfriend. been living together for over 2 years. I am just interested in people that hang out here in general

I just saw batman superman.
What a train wreck. Fun to watch, but just so full of dumb shit. Suicide Squad hype train begins.

>>5946374
the NHS classes it as cosmetic

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>>5946385
oh okay I was about to say, usually don't get asked that question without something behind it desu

>>5946387
I have a hard time with cape shit. My sister is a big fan and keeps getting me to watch that kind of movie, but I could do without.

>>5946387
Worth seeing for the hunks or not? ;~;

>>5946393
It had a lot of moments that reminded me of zack Snyder's better superhero movie, watchmen. Which I'm gonna go home and watch now.

>>5946387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwXfv25xJUw

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>>5946297
>>5946300
>>5946301
>>5946310
>>5946324

:(

>>5946303
>>5946305
>>5946309
>>5946319
>>5946358

:)
so what i got out of this is that the majority of women who are living full time or getting gendered female are happy lol

>>5946317

i definitely get that.

>>5946396
I just torrented The Man from UNCLE
Cavill is handsome but he's too swole for suits ;_;