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New pass thread Rules: >Tell others how they do; don't

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New pass thread

Rules:
>Tell others how they do; don't just dump a pic and run.
>Constructive criticism is heavily encouraged, but not required.
>No hugboxing, but try to refrain from being a dick.
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>>5931358
Fuck it, my impression of every 16 y/O girl on Facebook (don't mind the hair, just got out of the shower when I took the pic)
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18, trans gorl, no 'mones
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Here we go
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>>5932107
Try wearing panty hose
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>>5931842
You look like a girl I work with, so pretty good face wise here! Can't tell too much more because of dat MySpace angle.

>>5931938
Fix your brows, and take a more flattering pic desu. Lips are pretty fem looking. Play with some lipgloss.
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>>5932107
You pass
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literally me
(don't forget to rate & subscribe)
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>>5932107
ladylike posture and everything. pass/10
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ok, so im not on mones yet (see the endo on the 14th)

Is there hope guiz?
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>>5932637
also, no makeup in that one and fucking shadow >.< plz be gentle desu

Im going for as raw as possible to see if more experienced grills think i have potential
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>>5931842
>>5931938
both probably pass pretty will or will once hormones become a factor, respectively
>>5932107
I doubt you raise any eyebrows, which i mean in a good way
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>be me
>be 18 y/o
>look 14
>>5931842
Looking good, cutie :)
>>5931938
Hard to tell, but I'm gonna say no. Your eyelashes look nice. Fix those brows.
>>5932107
Pass, but keep that forehead covered.
>>5932637
I think there's hope. You don't pass yet, but HRT will help loads.
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>>5932637
Nosferatu!
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>>5932720
fuk.
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>>5932720
thanks! Also, the short hair is so confusing; objectively i think you actually do pass for a qt short hair grill
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>>5931358
do i pass as an obedient sissy slut ready to service men?
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>>5932813
n0
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>>5932974
so fucking hot bb 10/10 open shenis i don't even believe u have one
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>>5932720
one more question (im >>5932637)
How close am i naturally? I.e. there was no makeup in that pic, my stupid shadow was there, etc

Im sorry, i really hate to be so histrionic, but the closer it is to the 14th the more and more neurotic i get
I just wanna know ill pass >.<
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>>5932637
You definitely have a cute face and your long hair makes you already look femme; hormones will just amplify it.
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>>5932720
Ty, same to you <3
>>5932678
I pass in public just about 100%, just posting here because why not
(9 months hrt btw)
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First time wearing makeup
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come 4 me and my tacky leopard print
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>>5933045
you should stop wearing stripes, they enlongate your build which is already slightly boxy
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>>5931842
i would say yes.. there's something a little andro about you but not sure most people would pick up on it

>>5931938
no, but get on hormones. you have potential

>>5932107
no, you need to do something else with your hair. longer and with layers around your face. and part it on the side, but not quite so far.

>>5932637
i see potential, get on mones and do something about your beard shadow

>>5932720
you look really really young and don't really have any standout gender traits. you could pass for whatever you want depending on how you present yourself.

>>5932813
n0

>>5933045
you have potential, but you need to blend your blush better and don't apply it quite so high on your cheeks. smile really big and put it on that big circular part right in the front center of your cheek. also, your eyeliner looks really sloppy and if i were you i wouldn't attempt wings until you get the hang of lining your eyes in general. i'd start with a pencil on the top lashline, blended out with a small brush and once it gets easier to apply, you can graduate to gel or liquid and try doing cat eyes

>>5933231
yes... is that a payless purse?
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>>5933231
i wear leopard print all the time
>>5933251
she needs to buy a chain for it no pass
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>>5933251
Thanks, this photo is actually pretty old really, I was pre hrt and didn't know how to do shit with my hair.
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>>5933251
yess, it is. And oh my, is that you? you are beautiful *_* no homo
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>>5933251
shit nigga, you look nice
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>>5933285
it is lol, thank you!!! i've seen a ton of girls posting about those purses in some beauty group that i'm in on fb, they're pretty cute

>>5933284
ohh okay, well i definitely think you have potential, especially since you weren't on hrt yet!
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I'm on phone so CC will come in a minute
(19, 4 months e)
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>>5931842
you pass when your hair is done iirc
>>5931938
pretty eyes, you'll pass after a few months on mones and with your eyebrows done
>>5932107
if i saw you in public i'd assume you were a stocky girl (although your legs look sorta manly, try stockings or something)
>>5932637
with makeup and mones you'll pass
>>5932720
you're right, you look like a young boy, like a disney channel show star. are you on T yet?
>>5933231
really pretty. pass
>>5933251
also pretty, pass
>>5933285
your body passes too, I'm jelly

(i'm >>5933314 sorry about the pic being so big, i forgot my phone does that LMAO)
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>>5933231
>>5933285
you're jessica right? facetune upped your female illusion. no more warped walls. im happy for you.
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>>5933285
actually you look kind of familiar... were you on soc in 2011-2012 as jess?
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>>5933328
Harsh anon! yea i admit used to abuse photoshop tho.

>>5933325
thankyouu. Your skin looks flawless, jelly.

>>5933330
oh god, yes! I was just starting out back then. Cringe, surprised you remember!

Anyway gonna exit now cuz I am sure people will get pissed at me flooding the thread with pics and gifs and shit
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rate my sweaty pale gross post cam-show face

i feel like i wont be happy with it until my lip lift this summer

>>5933251
10/10 would go to disneyland with
>>5932813
we all know ur a cis woman who comes to this board for attention
>>5932720
if youre mtf grats, u look like a pre everything ftm
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>>5933325
>if i saw you in public i'd assume you were a stocky girl (although your legs look sorta manly, try stockings or something)
Fuck, guess that's what I get for running a lot last summer :/
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>>5933352
ffs not another crossdresser
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I am pre HRT and it was my first time doing make up. Sorry for the picture quality.
This up coming week however I finally am getting on hrt.
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>>5931842
Spastic/10

>>5931938
>no 'mones
No pass

>>5932107
Could go either way depending on your voice.

>>5932720
Sorry, obviously a girl. Testosterone will fix you though.

>>5932813
fuck you/10

>>5933045
not really, but could with some work. chin is very masculine, and i think the nose is pretty bad too.

>>5933231
caked/10
but really, you pass

>>5933251
pass

>>5933314
unsure. post a picture straight-on.

>>5933352
shitty pic. you pass in the pic though.
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>>5933378
wow rude i just wanted help furthering my sissy hypnosis so i can get better at worshipping cock and being rewarded with delicious feminizing cum
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>>5933387
I'd put it in my mouth
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>>5933391
i know ya would son
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>>5933042
>>5933325
>>5933251
Thank you so much guys
Yall have made my night so much better, and (even if only temporarily) squashed that "No, dont do this, you want pass" thoughts

I love you guys. Even through all our autism
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>>5933043
I know, I didnt mean to imply you werent on it; the other person i replied to wasnt. I apologize if I offended you, it wasnt my intention.

but yah, you pass fo sho'; you're a qt.
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>>5933416
D: I'm not offended, didn't mean to sound that way
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>>5933325
Yeah. I'm working on trying to make my hair look better while it's down so I pass better, just bought some stuff that should hopefully make it look less like dudehair so fingers crossed
>>5933378
Is that a bad thing?
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>>5933346
are you on hormones?
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>>5933438
It means I'm not sure because you're making a dumb face. But, you do admittedly look like a girl making a dumb face, in the picture...
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>>5933399
this scarred me as a kid
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>>5933439
in a couple more days i will be
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>>5933446
Ah okay. Sorry for the dumb face
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>>5933429
all good, just wanted to make sure
Honestly after hearing all the "Cute face, defo pass on hormones" Im so emotional that i just want everyone to be happy and tell them i love them

Jesus i cant wait for hormones
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>>5933456
Are you getting them any time soon?
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>>5933461
got my referral letter, seeing the endo on the 14th for the blood tests :D! after that im just waiting on the results
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>>5933464
That's amazing :D you should have them by around the end of April then
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>>5933466
hell yeah!

Its crazy, i literally only saw the therapist twice. After the first meeting she said it was super obvious i was trans.

Do you know if the real life test is a prereq for mones? From everything i can see, its not, it only matters for srs? I dont mind, bc honestly im already close to passing it, so i can just embellish a bit. BUt i really cant stand the thought of wwaiting any longer >.<
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>>5933471
Wait. What test o.O I just went to my therapist for a few sessions, he wrote a letter and I went to a doctor
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>>5933477
kk
Its called the real life test
Its a prereq for srs
But i hear if a doc wants to be super anal, they can require it for mones, but literally none of them do

God i cant wait for hormones. Im so afraid that somethings gonna happen or im just gonna get convinced to change my mind I just want estrogen all up in my body.. nao plz
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>>5933480
What country do you live in? if it's okay for me to ask. Also I'm sure you'll be fine, especially if they went as far as blood tests
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>>5933481
Im in the deep south of the US, so im amazed that this has gone so smoothly. I cant wait to get out of here and go back to Europe.

Logically I know thisll work out, but im still a bundle of emotions, part of which is fear
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>>5933490
Ah, I'm sorry to hear that, I'm in Texas myself but in a somewhat okay part of it. Have fun with going to Switzerland though ^~^ I wish you luck, and just breathe, everything will be fine <3
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>>5933493
Thank you!

Not to be a creep, but near the dfw region? I need more rl trans friends x_x
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>>5933498
Fort worth actually lol, if you want to add me on Skype I'll post it
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>>5933314
yes in this pic, but hard to say in general 'cause your hair is covering your face

>>5933352
hay sexy

>>5933376
maybe after hrt and growing your hair and much better makeup
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>>5933352
You're that girl from the imgur hrt timelines
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Me when I got off work.
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>>5934481
Damn hon, hope you get HRT soon.
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>>5931842
you look okaay. Watch out for the hairlinedo
>>5932107
p okay, same thing - split your hair more carefully idk
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old pictures, 2-3 months into HRT
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25 thinking of starting to transition
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>>5933352
My gf/10
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Dumping 4 cis males and myself. Easy mode: Which one is me?
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>>5937024
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>>5937031
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>>5937039
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>>5937042
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>>5937024
weird but i'll play

its this one >>5937042
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>>5937042
this is
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>>5937039
this is
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>>5937045
this one
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>>5937045
This.
All of these boys are super qt except for >>5937042 who could be super qt if he had his glasses on or gpt rid of those rings/grew facial hair.
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>>5932813
Of course you do, baby.

>>5933314
Pass

>>5933352
Sultry/10

>>5933251
Pass

>>5933285
Pass

The rest have a lot of potential, esp. pre-HRT girl with short hair and the FTM.
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>>5933231
Haha. This is not what you actually look lik2 at all
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>>5937257
That's a very obvious wig. It makes you look like a conehead.
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>>5937372
Not a wig but tyvm :)
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>>5932107
your hair needs work and you would benefit from looking at the "dressing for your body shape" guide. The dress "waist" is too high for your shape. Good job on the posture and hair removal! Most people probably wouldn't take a second look other than to check you out.
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>>5932637
Your face shape is pretty good and the hair is a good length to get it styled. HRT isn't magic but since you're a skinny minnie it will help you fill out nicely if you put on a few pounds.
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>>5937257
You have beautiful hair but I can see issues with your facial structure even though you are hiding it
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>>5932720
You look like a boy
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>>5932974
gr8 b8
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>>5933045
You gotta emphasize your lips to distract from your chin. Look at how fat chicks make their lips and eyebrows huge so their faces look small and just do the lips. Also seconded or thirded or fourthed about the blush. Too much too high
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>>5934481
Like is this picture supposed to be unflattering?
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>>5937398
Thanks, I was lucky and never really grew facial hair ever.
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>>5937257
your hair reminds me of Garth
love the clothes tho
if you can make your hair looks more feminine and your clothes too, you will totally pass
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>>5937039
I suspect this one because the neck is strategically covered. It would be super easy if there were something indicating scale cuz transguys be short.
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>>5937420
Cool. I have thought about ffs so there's that. I just don't have the $$$ yet, and I'm also entertaining the idea of just presenting as more butch for that reason and one more.. I do look different with my hair up. Maybe I should upload 1 more.
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>>5937384
Hmm it looks really off somehow. Maybe get it styled professionally.
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>>5937454
Thanks. Do you think I could pull off short hair? I feel like the outcome could either be good or bad so I'm avoiding getting my hair cut at all °~°
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>>5937449
The ish with the hair is that the styling seems to show a receding hairline which is pretty unusual for white women.
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>>5937479
is it your real hair? good job, its pretty cute, i thought it was a wig.
I really dont know how to help you, try wearing more feminine clothes and brush and comb your hair, messy hair looks dude-ish
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>>5937492
oh, it's not really a "receeding" hairline, just a naturally high hairline. Only 18 and no hair loss. I'll probably end up getting the hairline lowering procedure.
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>>5932637
I have no idea why, but you don't look like a girl to me

>>5932720
Adorable, I think you'd pass.

>>5933352
You're really pretty.

>>5934481
You look like you pass to me

>>5934725
Pass. The huge eyes and the feminine lips make it happen.

>>5937257
Not enough face to tell.

I know my eyebrows need work, I'm going to be doing something about them within the next week, so don't bother saying anything.
Any advice whatsoever?
Pre-everything, if it wasn't obvious enough.
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>>5937584
Get your hair styled properly and don't part it ever unless you like everyone seeing your T
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>>5937606
Got it.
Anything else?
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>>5937613
It's hard to tell anything else from the photo. It's rough having a high hairline and it is suuper obvious if you part your hair. If you know any transwomen in the area ask them for a stylist they trust/recommend, or ask a female friend.
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>>5937613
oh yeah! Your lips need some help. Check this shit out:
http://www.bustle.com/articles/91644-6-tips-for-wearing-lipstick-if-you-have-small-lips-and-want-a-fuller-look
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Posted last thread but only got one response and it was kinda dismissive.
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>>5932720
You look distinctly male in my opinion, just not a big burly man or whatever.
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>>5937584
No pass, hair and brows need work.

>>5937045
This is my guess, those rings around the cheekbones on >>5937042 make me uncertain though. All pass.

>>5935443
Good makeup, transition should go well for you.

>>5934481
No pass, its the bags.

>>5933376
No pass, gonna need fss.

>>5933346
Pass

>>5933251
Pass. Cis as fuck.

>>5933045
No pass, need chin and jaw redicution, also get bangs.

>>5932974
No pass, not even a little.

>>5932813
Passy
Sissy sluts unite.

>>5932637
Plenty, your hair looks pretty.

>>5932107
Pass
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>>5931842
pass. tiny face
>>5931938
ok
>>5932107
could pass as a qt boy or a qt girl in the face. decent girlbody
>>5932637
ben stiller
>>5932720
that annoying guy from soc
>>5932813
YES
>>5932974
quirky
>>5933045
nah
>>5933231
pass
>>5933251
PASS. hot even by cis standards even w/ no tits
>>5933285
unf
>>5933314
pass ok but why you make that exact face every time
>>5933352
PASS. idk why you have a problem with your lips, they're fine
>>5933376
dem manthighs
>>5934481
you look like a below avg 40 y/o mom with no tits
>>5934640
idk
>>5934725
pass
>>5935443
mtf? you pass already
>>5937042
>ftm
>>5937257
pass. nice goblin king hair
>>5937584
kinda scary t.b.h
>>5937767
needs work
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20, boymode, started e 5 months ago. Endo had me on spiro for way too long, could've started properly when I was 18 but no dice. Now I'm in a pretty lgbt friendly city so I guess it doesn't matter if I'm a turbohon that much so long as I stay out of the shady parts of town.

Will r8 soon, posting from my mobile.
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>>5937767
Cute, see a hairdresser for a better cut tho.
>>5937584
Need a better pic, you look kinda off here.
>>5937257
Cis fucker alert
>>5937045
You look like my friend's abusive boyfriend.
>>5935443
!JUST GO FOR IT!
>>5934725
qout
>>5934481
Look like ya just got off work. Cool bra bruh.
>>5933314
BOY SHE BOUTTA DO ITyou look great
>>5934725
Cute as fuck meng. Don't play esse.
>>5934640
Asian/10
>>5933045
FFS may be necessary. Cute outfit/hair tho.
>>5932637
Please take care, you'll be alright.
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>>5938842
take care? am confuse
>>5938796
pretty sure youll pass ezpz once you do your eyes
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I know I don't pass
but what do I need to do to do so? (apart from my weight which I'm working on)
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>>5938884
its hard to pin, but your forehead seems a bit masculine to me, which is why american jesus made bangs, so easy fix

try a modest amount of eye shadw too

Honestly in public id probably not peg you as mtf unless i was searching for it though
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>>5938870
You look fragile
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>>5938905
meh, dont care about that as long as ill pass on hormones
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>>5938905
>>5938917
Not to sound bratty

Forgive me, am alcohol
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>>5937055
>>5937087
>>5937104
>>5937126
>>5937212
>>5937460

Phew. 4/6 isn't bad.
>>5937039

is me. That baby face though. I get gendered 100% male in public by strangers, which makes up for the years of hell preceding. On rare occasions I'll get a comment like "that guy looks like a girl".

Have been on T for 13 months and am post-top. Once my facial hair fully grows in it should eradicate any remaining doubt from other people's minds. Only just now has the hair grown in all the spots that comprise a well-shaped beard, but it is just stubble for now.

Those at work knew me much earlier in the transition process and still occasionally gender me as female and force themselves to correct. I am very thankful for these niceties, but it is a reminder that first impressions stick, seeing as no stranger would "she" me.

On a related note, can I burn everyone that knew me pre transition? For science.
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>>5939147
Main way I picked you out is because of the piercings. They're a relic of something else and it doesn't fit the rest of the face imo.
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>>5939147
of course its you. every ftm gets a septum piercing.
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>>5938796

Please marry me
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>>5937024
This is the Boston bomber
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>>5939147
Do somethin about your teeth, m8. You look cute tho. Gay or str8?
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>>5933030
Have you had any treatment on your facial hair? I think once you get that done you'll be fine (with HRT).
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>>5937257
>>5935443
>>5934725
>>5934640
>>5933352
>>5933314
Hard passes, pretty much flawless
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>>5939999
O I kno anon. Planning braces shortly.
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>>5941024
Also gay.
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>>5941029
Good to know :)
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>>5940769
none yet. Im all natural until next tuesday (moved appt up)
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>>5938796
you look like a 1920s flapper girl. something about the eyelashes.
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>>5941029
>qt
>gay
>ftm
Hey bb :3c
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>>5937872
Thank you, my fiance is teaching me
>>5938087
>>5938842
>>5940788
and thank you so much X3

>>5938796
you are sooo cute
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http://oi67.tinypic.com/256x07p.jpg

Too shy to put the pic up right in the thread. Do I look more like a girl or guy?
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>>5941381
You look like a hungover guy
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>>5941381
Really, really tired lesbian. Like, been to war kinda lesbian. You ever seen war? You look like you've seen war.
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>>5935959

This is me

Pic is also me
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>>5932813
Shit, if you didn't have a dick I'd fuck you.

Шлюxa.
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>>5941381
near perfectly androgynous, although i know that doesn't help much. but wow you are attractive. like just my type, no matter what gender you are, and i'm not even bi
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>>5941422
>>5941883
I'm FtM, pre-everything but definitely looking into it. I looked tired as balls in that pic but it was one of the better ones I was able to take that I didn't lose when my phone broke. Would it help if I lost some more weight?

>>5942849
I've never been called attractive before, haha. Definitely smiled when I read that, thank you :)
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No HRT and I'm older than I look.
I think it's time for me to either transition or an hero, legbutts desu
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>>5943369

Worth noting I took hormones during late puberty, detransitioned, lived as a man for a while, and now I'm coming back around. So- maybe I have a slight advantage compared to others who wait until they're as old as me. I've known I'm trans, weigh 135 lbs, eat a lot of tofu and vegetables.
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>>5943369
You look like a teenage boy in a wig. Good start.
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>>5938884
Better shape eyebrows would help.
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>>5943435

Thanks, bretty good compliment considering I'm a 28 year old man in a wig
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>>5943461
Damn. Well congrats
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>>5942723
You look like a cisgirl I know. Any pics with more make-up on? The bags under your eyes are goddamn Balkan-level.
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>>5943469

Thanks. Coming out to my shrink in a few days :)
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>>5943475
Yeah I've had them my whole life and my mother has them too so I've pretty much accepted it. They're about 90% gone when I apply makeup, but I tend to either not use it or use little. This pic is from March 2015, when I had makeup applied professionally. I was being "ironic"
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>>5943532
You look a bit different. You're a hottie, honestly, and don't worry about the eyes, some people just look like that (just so happens to be mostly people from the Balkans) and it has nothing to do with passing,
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>>5943532

That's a really good pic and you definitely pass here. I'm not big on makeup either but a little foundation goes a long way
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>>5942723

hi ellen page
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>>5943584
I'm not a lesbian and personally I think I look more like kristen stewart because of my man jaw
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no makeup messy hair etc whatever pic. going to get my third month of hormones in a few days. i need a reality check because my bf keeps telling me im cute and i'm feeling happier than i should desu.
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>>5943660
You are doing good for only 3 months but you need some help. Your jaw is pretty masculine and your brows could be fixed up a bit, but I like your hair.
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I'm not on hrt and I know I'm not too good at make up
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>>5942723
Not bad. I really like your hair. I don't think I'd click you unless i had good reason to suspect trans
>>5943369
I don't know if its the angle but i can sorta tell. The nose have it away a little
>>5943532
You pass very well. Keep it up yo
>>5943660
Jaws a bit masculine but you're doing pretty well. You are a qt too
>>5943682
Your make up is fine but is easy to tell its wig right off the bat. But with your real hair that long you'd pass fine

No make up, hrt for about a year and a halfish
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What are my chances of ever passing,

18, 100mg diy of spiro for last 2 months.
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>>5943821
Will probably pass assuming you put effort into your appearance
>>5943812
Androgynous, definitely leaning towards female. I like your skin.
>>5943682
Your makeup isn't actually all that bad. I don't think you pass, but it's hard to tell from that pic anyway.
>>5943660
I'm reading you as male based off your jawline and widows peak. Try getting on some sort of hair restoration supplement and getting a hairstyle that frames your face better.
>>5943532
Pass
>>5943441
I could read you as an older woman if your voice was feminine.
>>5943369
No pass. Hormones will help.
>>5942723
Pass
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>>5943812
you look like a feminine boy, so I guess that's ok if you're ftm, but not super passing if mtf.
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>>5943862
I'm mtf, anything i can do to help with passing a bit more?
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>>5943884
well I think you are doing fine, just grow your hair out a bit more? It is kind of hard to see your whole face in that pic so you could look completely different in person, so don't get upset or anything.
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>>5943884
I'd say your face definitely screams feminine, it's just your clothes give off a more androgynous vibe.
I think if you wear more distinctly feminine clothes there wouldn't be any question.
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>>5943892
I'm not upset, just looking for friendly advice and such ^_^ Yeah I've been growing out the hair but for now its still pretty much emo boy status
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>>5943860

Thx, didn't expect to pass, crossing my fingers it's a good starting point
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>>5943812

Thanks yeah gotta do something about my Jew nose. considering I'm old and it's no HRT I'll take it.

You look very unisex/androgynous. You could honestly pass for either one you want.
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>>5937269
ok anon what do i look like? i lost over 10 kg so my face got less chubby
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>>5944329
idk what it is about you, but you barely look real
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can anyone comment on the effects/effectiveness of pueraria mirifica? im considering transitioning but i want to do things on my own terms. I mostly just want to know of any harmful side effects, id rather not almost die or something because i wanted to look more like how I feel
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>>5943167
Cutting your hair would do wonders. But yeah. Lose weight. The fat rounds your face a bit and makes it look feminine/androgynous. You have masculine eyes you lucky bastard.
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>>5944449

Just take hormones senpai, if you're gonna do just go full tilt.
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>>5944449
It might work as something to use with normal HRT, but I doubt xenoestrogens would ever be an effective alternative
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>>5944329

Marry me !
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>>5943532

And a fucking Princes appeared
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>>5944329
you looked better with the extra chub desu
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sorry for depression beard....

>>5944329
you look fabulous hon :3
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>>5943860
Don't make silly faces damnit! You look adorable tho...
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>>5943532
Thank you for not invading women's spaces.
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>>5946455
Oh you
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>tfw none of us will ever be 14 year old, purely feminine, delicate framed girls

Anyone want to arrange a mass suicide pact?
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>>5946781
Honestly I do feel really awful about missing the first 20 years of my life, but I am really grateful I transitioned instead of killing myself. I may be a little abnormal because I'm 5'11 and not having a super feminine voice, but it is really liberating to be able to go out for drinks with girl friends and talk about boys and just feel like there is people who care about me. It is a daily struggle, and it will never be perfect, but I highly prefer my current life to suicide
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>>5946781

I can do it.
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>>5944329
You dress and look like the scatterbrained little teenage sluts who shop at places like Forever 21, Wet Seal, and Victoria's Secret that I would emotionally brutalize then play upon their low self-esteems for cheap thrills when I was a young teenage prick. You kinda pass. With makeup.
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>>5933376
I'd be down for sexytimes if you share the root beer.
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>>5944329
Your jaw and brow are a tip-off.

Дaвaй cюкa
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1 month e, do you think i will need rhino to pass?
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>>5947040
You're somewhere between femboy and dyke. You look french.

If you had wide hips, I'd be down to slamtown.
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Random Straight Black guy here. Most of you easily pass (including people not fully transitioned), a surprising amount of you are genuinely physically attractive.

I wanna see more of >>5933314 though. Not necessarily the most attractive to me (not necessarily not either) . Just very interesting looking. Easily passable as a 19 year old Lesbian already (coming from a 19 y/o btw).
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>>5947040

ftm?
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>>5937767
You look kind of like a feminine Danny Sexbang
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>>5947347
Nigga please.
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>>5947391
I posted in a thread like this one not too long ago, not like that somehow verifies "what I claim to be though".
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>>5947347
Nigga you gay.
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>>5947493
Because I sometimes browse /lgbt/ when I'm bored, or because I find some Trans people who pass as the gender they identify as attractive?
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>>5942723
pass but weird forehead
>>5943369
not so much but i could see good progress with hrt
>>5943532
PASS and those bangs help with the forehead thing
>>5943660
well you look kinda like my sister so i can't say you don't pass but fairly andro if i'm being objective here
>>5943682
relax, you look good
>>5943812
pass, qt
>>5943821
this looks like a picture of a picture. cant really tell
>>5943860
PASS
>>5944329
youre hot but i swear to god youre an android
>>5947040
mtf or ftm?
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>>5947061
this is an old pic,pre-everything, but how are hips?

>>5947367
>>5947587
mtf
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>>5947736
forgot pic
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I've got acne scars I could never get rid off. Any pointers?
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>>5947736
>mtf


Oh wow sorry.... this is probably one of the first time i've seen a feminine face in boyish clothes that wasnt about an ftm.

But your ok, just dont try to be too hard towards yourself.
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>>5938884
nah you pass imo, you are just a bit fat.
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1 month on hormones
should i stop
am i fucked
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>>5947782
Become a supervillain
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>>5949626
You look pretty cute. Still look like a dude but I can definitely see a woman under that andro.
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>>5949626
Youre not fucked youre just ugly, in a girly way.
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>>5949664
SO if i'm 1 month on hormones does that mean I'll pass eventually?
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>>5949692
1 month isn't a lot. I think you'll probably pass.
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>>5932813
>do i pass as an obedient sissy slut ready to service men?

Are you serious?!?! You look like a ratchet ass bust down that is about to ask for $160 and get laughed at. You looked better with wavy hair, but you are looking wore out for real 2bh.

>>5933498
>dfw region
>Deep South

Yuropoor pls, you are retarded if you think Dallas is the "Deep South". Dallas might as well be San Francisco compared to the actual Deep South.

>>5934725
I believe in you anon :^)

>>5937257
If I could see any of your face at all I would give you feedback on your facial aesthetics. So instead I will just say that your school shooter boots are ugly af, and you hold your phone like a fucking retard xD

>>5937872
Are your drugs, guns, and racism keeping you warm at night and fighting off the loneliness you ungodly ugly non passing weebshit? xD

(You) no really, have one on me :^)

>>5941254
>qt
>gay
>ftm
>Hey bb :3c

OH GOD..... [pukes internally]

>>5943532
>March 2015

Oh so this was taken before you got fat? :^)

Look p decent pham, but why were you in the Men's restroom tho? xD

>>5943812
(You).... (You) are the one I want in this thread (:

Would you like a muscular athletic top to be your manfriend bb girl? After we go to the gym and hit the shower I will feed you Carnitas and Sopes de Asada, would you like that bb? I know you like to eat girl, I can tell :^)

That blouse thing you are wearing is ugly af tho pls dont wear that when you meet me (:

>>5947347
>Most of you easily pass (including people not fully transitioned)
>Not necessarily the most attractive to me (not necessarily not either)

NIGGA PLSSSSSSSS xD
Being this desperate only gets you laughed at.

>coming from a 19 y/o btw

Well that explains it, you are still just a boy xD

..... Rest of this thread? Completely "Nahhh" tier, it still has 100 posts left to get better, not holding my breath tho 2bh.
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>>5949813
damn dude, you got jokes
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>>5949820

You want another joke?

(You) :^)

I can go all day pham, I love me some me xD.
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>>5949820
Mom's spaghetti
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>>5949813
How does me being 19 invalidate any of that? Please elaborate.
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>>5950042
Eh, that guy is just a massive edgelord, pay him no mind.
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>>5950051
I try not to just invalidate what others think that easily, but thanks for the heads up.
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>>5949813
>You look like a ratchet ass bust down that is about to ask for $160 and get laughed at.
i make double that a show but ok :)
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>>5950080
You're beautiful, make that $$$
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>>5950156
i aint shit but ty <3
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>>5944845
3 years e? are you not ftm?
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>mom, gf, and howhot.io all say I look like a girl
>but I'm actually only 4 months on e and still look like a guy and haven't even been gendered as female once in public

Is this what hugboxing is

Also I know I'm supposed to respond to other people's posts too but it's hard to use 4chan on my phone and I'm not near my laptop rn so I'll do that later
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>>5950329
Don't split your hair in the middle. Learn to groom yourself. It looks like you don't take care of your hair at all or ever style it
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>>5949813
Did you seriously block me ha. I went to sleep cause I can't stay up all night waiting for responses. W.e
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>>5950382
My hairline is slightly receded(actually been starting to grow back since starting hrt thankfully) and I'm scared of doing anything with my hair because the way it is rn covers the corners of my hairline pretty well and I'm worried about messing that up
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>>5950393
It covers the corners of your hairline but it makes you look like a dude (and looks bad, sorry). Just part your hair on the side instead and don't worry about your hairline, chicks have weird hairlines most of the time anyway
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>>5949813
>Oh so this was taken before you got fat? :^)

Ouch

>Look p decent pham, but why were you in the Men's restroom tho? xD

My last chance to say goodbye ;_;7
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>>5943660
no pass, but only because of your hairline. super cute though.

>>5944329
no pass. obvious wig.

>>5947040
you look like a transtrender ftm, so yeah you pass.
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>>5944845

how did you lose your weight?
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>>5949813

Carth why did you remove me from Skype? What did I do wrong? I'm sorry please just talk to me daddy, I have no other way to contact you ._.
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>>5951339

you wanna talk to someone who has nothing better to do than dad-jokes on 4chan?
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Alright here's my picture. I just woke up so I didn't do anything. I do use a female name when i'm out and I get gendered female about half the time.

>>5950329
Not quite pass. You do look like a girl but you're not quite there yet. Your family is hugboxing you a little bit however they think it's helping you. Just work on things like your eyebrows and figure out something to do with the hair that isn't a middle part

>>5949626
Not pass. It might be a good idea to just shed some weight while taking the anti-androgen (t blocker). if you're thin the HRT will be a lot more noticable when you put weight on again.

>>5947040
pass. nice work on the eyebrows
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>>5933251
10/10 thats my girl
>>5933231
Fuck youre that robot girl, be my friend
>>5937584
you're eyes are scary
>>5943860
cutie
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>>5949813
>OH GOD..... [pukes internally]
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>>5947782
Ouch poor you. And I thought mines were bad.
Check in with a dermatologist for dermabrasion I guess
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>>5933352
This girl right here this fucking girl right here. on point e on fleek dammnnn girllll. U hit up dat pete raphael for a beautiful mug like that. absolutee knockout good shit good shit right there in love.
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>>5946858 #
Well thank you for the compliment. Hehe actually it was a rootbeer beer that I was curious to try.
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>>5951489

Its embarrassing enough I have to post here to get his attention please don't harass me. I have had a really shitty day.
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>>5951674
thats such a bad pic of me i was high and sweety but ily <3
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>>5932107
Your legs and shoulders don't pass, never wear a dress.
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>>5951674
I like how pleased the pink teddy seems. His whole expression is "I am liking what I am seeing". Or am I just really high?
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>>5951980
Oh he is very pleased by what he is seeing
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Im 25 5.5 months hrt. Bonus points which looks better hair up or down? (I know it needs to get cut, I am doing that when I go visit my girlfriend mid April) My selfie game is weak af too.

>>5932637
Hope for sure! Not there yet though! Get on the train ASAP!
>>5932720
You do look super young but you pass
>>5932813
Dam and then some, but still read more fem than pure sissy. Those are some expensive britches' haha
>>5933045
Not there yet
>>5933231
You look like a human real doll you look feminine but I give you a object/human
>>5933251
Pass with the makeup!
>>5933314
Definite pass!
>>5933352
pass
>>5934481
sorry, keep at er'
>>5934640
andro fo sho
>>5934725
full pass
>>5935443
Do iet!
>>5937257
Are you wearing a wig? I can't tell with phone up like that
>>5937584
Not sure. Got a micheal jackson vibe going on.
>>5937767
Not a pass yet, might need ffs which is scary sorry.
>>5942723
andro/10
>>5943812
pass
>>5950329
No pass sorry. Put some effort in though! Get laser and more makeup and you would be surprised!

Whew made it through almost everyone!
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>>5951674
lol its so funny watching all you plebs ruin your reputation by sex caming cause you got no self respect all you want is that attention that "errgg so pretty im going cummm eerrg" keke
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>>5952049
good either way, but down is a little better since you can actually see it. have you tried a high ponytail?
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>>5952010
God you two look adorable... I love it when girls can be both sexual and cuddly

>>5952049
You don't quite pass 100% yet but you're still cute. Give it time, you'll be fine.
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>>5937024
Why the fuck did you post a pic of the Boston Marathon Bomber?
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>>5949626
Nah keep going, you have model brows.
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>>5950042
>Please elaborate.

:^)

>>5950385
>I went to sleep cause I can't stay up all night waiting for responses

>2016
>not forgoing sleep, food, work, school, and friends to patiently wait for contact from me....
>confirmed for never making it faggot

>>5951339
>Carth why did you remove me from Skype?

Uncontrollable Tren rage 2bh :^)

>>5951633
>>5951674
>>5952010
Why didnt someone tell me this Joe Flacco looking bitch was a filthy cam slut before I told her to add me on Skype? You fuckers are supposed to be watching my back.

How do these people live with themselves? Oh thats right... drugs.

Absolutely disgusting.

>>5951634
Nah pham, pic related doe.
14hrs in MS Paint 2bh :^)

>>5952926
>you have model brows

This is the stupidest comment in the thread, models are selected for their facial aesthetics and the build of their bodies. There is no such thing as "model brows", and even if there was the person you commented on certainly wouldnt have them. Its just a stupid thing to say to someone.

"dont worry bb you have model hair you will pass one day" .... get the fuck out of here with that hugbox shit.
>>
>>5934640
Pass ur qt
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>>5951570
You're on the borderline, but with your hair I'd sooner gender you female than male. So, borderline pass.
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>>5952049
You left me out and it hurt my ego
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>>5956951
No pass
>>5952049
No pass
>>5951570
No pass
>>5950329
No pass
>>5944329
Pass
>>5943860
Pass
>>5943812
No pass
>>5943682
Pass
>>5943660
No pass
>>5942723
Pass
>>5941303
No pass
>>
most of you pass but you are like the lowest tier of females, ugly af.
>>5944329
you don't pass, you look like a tranny prostitute, sorry. Stop dressing so cheaply not even cis females wear such stupid clothes and makeup.
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>>5958407
Bad wig is bad.

Everything else looks okay. I'd only really be a little tipped off by your jaw, brow and the vast quantities of makeup.
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>>5958410
gotcha
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Pre-HRT. Which surgeries would you recommend?
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>>5958495
You practically pass already. I'd hold off on surgeries until you're on HRT for a few years and see where you are then.
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>>5958495
You don't look like you'll need ffs or anything. Treachea shave obviously but that's every trans girl who didn't transition at 12 or some crap, laser/electro if you have issues with facial hair. You don't need ffs though, just get on hormones and let their magic do their work ^-^
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>>5958503
I do pass sometimes, but it's due to my hair mostly I guess. I think I need to fix my nose though.
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>>5958517
Your nose is fine desu, some girls just have slightly bigger noses, if doesn't make you not pass. Just give hormones some time, you'll be shocked how well you'll pass
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>>5958524
>>5958515
Ok ;w;
I believe in HRT because I saw my friends change and the results were stunning… But I will probably have it like in the end of this year if everything is fine… I chose not to go to a informed consent doctor, because I want to make everything clear to my slightly transphobic family.
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>>5949626
PLS DON"T STOP, if this is the first month, you're gonna be cute as hell.
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>>5943860
You look like you're trying to be bailey Jay. Which is gross. Stop.
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>>5938884
OMG SHEEN! Is that really you? I'm so glad, because I finally see you smile. And nah, you do pass. Thanks for working on yourself finally.
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Just asking if you think that I CAN pass, am not trying in this pic really. Been on Spiro 4 months and Estradiol a week.
>>5932813
You Pass
>>5933231
Pass
>>5933251
Pass
>>5933314
Pass
>>5933352
Pass
>>5935443
Pass
>>5937767
Pass but look ugly
>>5943369
Pass
>>5943682
Pass
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>>5958820
Eh, you can ^^. But I can't even recognize your gender in this pic because this photo is badly taken and your glasses reflect the light. Though I still think if not now, then after some few months you may be cute.
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>>5958820
Oh, I forgot… fix your eyebrows though.
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>>5934640
Holy shit you're a cutie. 8/10 passing. Really love those lips.
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>>5958830
Sorry, yeah the pic is bad. Blame the lighting in the room for that.
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>>5956794
You missed the part where I said almost everyone. Given your post I also have zero idea who you are, and I intentionally didn't review anyone who was not on da mones yet because that is actually pointless as far as Im concerned... That is like judging how nice a guitar is going to be by looking at the tree it came from.
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>>5957005
This picture is for ants and made of countable pixels... Aka not worth rating.
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About to hit the 1yr mark. I still need to learn how to make-up.
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>>5958495

lip lift, hair line advancement are you good 2 go
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>>5960838
No pass.
…
just kidding cunnie
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>>5961323
stubby pig-like manhands are a no-pass
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>>5931358
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>>5961311
>>5961323
You look so cis that I can even forgive you dat tumblr necklace.
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>>5960838
cute pass
>>5961323
This photo emphasizes your shoulders, don't do that. Still, you look good, and you'll definitely pass once you start HRT.
>>5961447
Beards preclude passing, I'm sorry.
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18, no hormones, picture taken by a slide-out keyboard phone pointing at a 3ds screen. i'm gonna cosplay asuka from evangelion at an anime convention and i don't know what bathroom to use lol
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>>5962170
in case you were wondering, i AM anime enough
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>>5935443
Would jerk off to you on Kik/10
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>>5961323
I'd jerk off to you
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>>5962170
You look young for 18, I'd start on hormones to capitalize on that if I were you. Also, it's always easiest to just go to family restrooms if they're available.
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>>5962175
Spitting image
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>>5962638
inconceivable
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>>5956951
This is your best pic so far 2bh, you have come a long way. Straight hair looks much, much better on you than your naturally curly hair; and you actually look like a girl now... impressive. You are at the point now where I would consider you passable.

One bit of advice though, a more neutral lip color suits you better.

Shalom :^)

>>5957005
>2016
>480x480
>still not passing
> :^)

Seriously tho, wtf kind of pleb device takes 480x480 photos? My 5yr old nephew has a tablet that takes better pics than that from the front camera.

Its OK Oddish I would still dick you down bb girl, no lube and lots of choking/hitting tho :^)

>>5960838
This is the best pic you have posted in a while, do NOT take this as encouragement to post more though :^)

also:
>318x240

kek

>>5961311
>>5961323
Well I think you are cute, but that is mainly just because I am a huge faggot and I have a soft spot for trans girls that look Italian/Hispanic. You have a lot of problems tho 2bh pham.

First off based on this pic you look to be 5'10"-6ft to compound the problem of being too tall for a girl, you have a VERY masculine composition. Your Delts are fuckhuege my nigga, likewise your biceps and forearms, hands, fingers are all very robust and masculine. Its hard to see because you have let your eating habits get the best of you, but you also have a V-taper. If you got into shape you would actually have a very nice body..... but it would be a male body :(

I also would find it hard to imagine that anyone with this build would have a passable female voice either. So yea people are prob gonna hugbox you and tell you how cute you are, and you prob wont have a problem finding a man friend for that boipussy.... but pass as a female? Maybe in pictures not IRL 2bh.

Also I like your hair :3
W-w-wanna go to the gym with me?

>>5962170
Ayyyy its Pepe

also:
>picture taken by a slide-out keyboard phone pointing at a 3ds screen

.... what the actual fuck is wrong with you fucking weebshits?!?!
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>>5958579
No.
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>>5965898
>Is there a way to get my arms and shoulders to go down a bit?

Yeah obv, you can get on Anti-Androgens and Estrogen but it will only atrophy your musculature to a certain extent... which is not much at all from what I have seen. The way your muscles anabolize and catabolize has a lot to do with your specific Insulin, IGF, and HGH levels and receptors, along with protein synthesis rates, etc. Basically genetic type shit that HRT wont even scratch the surface on.

The only surefire way to catabolize muscle is to starve yourself long term. Very few people have the willpower to do that IRL though, plus it will reveal your skeletal structure which will probably present a whole new set of issues with passing.

Basically what I am trying to say is get on HRT, but dont expect miracles in regards to your frame because its not really going to change that much.

.... also wanna get your bp destroyed? :^)
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I'm >>5932720, back again after going shopping. How do I do?
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>>5966054
>Wann und Wo, Bro

lol hmu on Skype @the_carthaginian and we can chat.

And dont ever speak barbarian languages besides English to me pham, you are not a Yuropoor, you have North American electrical sockets in your bathroom :P

>>5966075
D-d-dont steal my gf bro xD
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>>5966075
your pants are too long
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>>5966704
I know, they were a Christmas present.
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>>5938796
pass
>>5942723
pass
>>5943812
pass,super cute

Im not into HRT,do i have hope?
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I thought I was cute today
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>>5967257
v pass, good look. Props for being outside.

Nice, "not a basement dweller" skin tone. 8/10
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>>5967301
Thank you
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Ok I don't want to post this but the person I am staying with is making me.

Does she pass?
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>>5967433
With sunglasses? Yes. They cover up a lot of her face though.
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>>5952010
>>5951674
>>5951633
God damnit. I've been lurking this board since its inception, and when you started posting your pics I was so happy that a super QT young trans girl was out there in the sea of sad hons. I mean really, you're cute AF.

Seeing you made happy because I thought that, "hey, now that transgender has gone mainstream, people can transition younger and pass better, and they will have more opportunities afforded to them!" I actually thought that you might have been living a pretty normal existence for any other girl your age, maybe doing school, working a respectable job, social life, etc.

Then you had to go and soil it all by being a fucking cam whore. Really!? Jerking off and begging for sheckles for creeps online? What made you think you had to do this, or what makes you want to do this?

When can trans women move past the limitation of being sex workers? Why does every trans girl would is even remotely cute think being a cam whore/shemale yum girl/escort/etc. is a good idea?

Those of you in your teens and early 20s have greater access to transition resources, and are living in a generation of peers with greater knowledge and acceptance of transgender people, yet you all STILL choose to degrade yourselves as sex objects on the internet? Fucking why???

I just want you to know that you can stop this. You don't have to keep doing sex work. You can leave it behind and let it be some awkward blemish in those weird early years of transitioning. I'm telling you kid, there is no future on that path. Don't let the failures of those who came before you limit you to this kind of life. You are young and beautiful, there is no reason why you can't create success for yourself.
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>>5967478
I guess it's like, legitimizing or something? It's always nice to feel wanted, even if it's just by strangers online. Money is also nice so... yeah.
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>>5971232
>I guess it's like, legitimizing or something?
>jerking off on a transsexual portion of a camwhore site
>making money off your dick
>legitimizing
>Congratulations! You're officially a tranny with low self worth and no life goals!

Wow, so legitimizing...

>It's always nice to feel wanted

Implying this person doesn't feel wanted every time she leaves her house. Men bend over backwards for pretty girls, and they are never subtle about it. She could simply open a Tinder or OKCupid account and get flooded with attention from actually hot guys, and not just some anonymous usernames on a camwhore site.

>Money is also nice so... yeah.

Implying the money made by being a camwhore is anything close to what can be made from a normal job. And cam whoring is laughable when compared to the thought of getting an education and building an actually sustainable career.

It's so frustrating that in spite of all the progress that has been made for trans people in our society that the majority of trans girls still think being a fucking camwhore is the be all end all. Like, "Wow, I finally made it to womanhood. I went to a fetish site and jerked off for some random people and earned tokens. I finally made guise. Life is good!"

Fucking stupid. Get some real goals with your life, and actually make something of yourself. There is no reason that trans people in 2016 (inb4 durr tha current year) should have to resort to this so frequently.
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>>5971651
I didn't mean to argue anon, it was just my two cents, I'm sorry ;n;

That said though, why can't camwhoring also be a "real goal?" I understand that it's becoming a sex object and all, but many of us started in bodies that we felt uncomfortable and unattractive in, so it's nice to become attractive enough to succeed at camwhoring.
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>>5967478
>When can trans women move past the limitation of being sex workers? Why does every trans girl would is even remotely cute think being a cam whore/shemale yum girl/escort/etc. is a good idea?
because the ones who post a ton of pictures here for attention are the ones who are also going to post a ton of pictures on porn sites for attention and you never see the ones being normal people because we don't feel the need to whore all over /lgbt/?
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>>5971724
>why can't camwhoring also be a "real goal?"

Seriously? You're asking why self-objectification isn't a real goal for one's life?

And you all wonder why feminists think trannies are a bunch of perverted fetishizing men ruining the progress that they have fought for decades to achieve for women. All the efforts to raise women to be more than sexual objects for men, all of the efforts to push women to educate themselves, and to succeed in life by contributing to society is completely shit upon when the general ideology and concept of self that permeates among trans women is to be a fucking camwhore, and, "oh we are totally real women deserving of respect, lol xD."

>>5971750
I hope that is the truth.
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>>5971831
i mean i dont have any numbers or anything, but the only people you're going to see posting pics a lot on /lgbt/ are the people who are likely to camwhore
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>>5971847
That is probably true. It's still a shame though because for many young trans girls, these camwhores will be the primary role models that they will be exposed to before, and in the early stages of, transition.

Fuck, maybe I have been in this shit hole of a website for too many years. Maybe I have outgrown this 4chan. I've been growing increasingly disgusted with the culture and the opinions contained within every board here.
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>>5971831
Things like "self-objectification" and "sexualized" are just buzzwords, they don't mean anything real because they rely on a skewed perception of reality. A person having sexual value does not subtract from their value as a human being. Furthermore, a mature human being shouldn't be so pretentious as to think that every single facet of their life must revolve around their human dignity. If life worked that way, then working any ordinary job would be considered coerced slavery!
Sex, sexuality, and gender should neither be demonized, nor perceived as rigid, immutable concepts that must necessarily follow a set path. It's okay to be promiscuous, it's okay to be gay, it's okay to be transgender. Thes values are part of that which civil rights activists have fought for over the years, and each of these values applies equally unto all people. Trans people aren't excluded from the moral allowance for promiscuity and other sexual freedoms simply because it might hurt the public opinion of us. The public is going to hate us for a good while longer as it is, how is it right that we should our lives around appeasing those that hate us? Why should we follow the values of those that hate us by demonizing female sexuality? Should we be holding even greater shame about our bodies than we already suffer from, is the dysphoria not enough?
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>>5972642
>Things like "self-objectification" and "sexualized" are just buzzwords

No they are not. They are in fact real phenomenon.

You are clearly one of those woman hating and "feminazi" bashing NEETs with a profoundly skewed concept of object relations. I see no reason to further engage you, as it would be futile trying to have an intellectual discourse with someone who is so overtly lacking in a baseline level of knowledge, in fact you ignorantly mock it.

You are literally the reason why trans women are not accepted as women. Have fun living out our days alone in mom's basement while you "aspire" to be camwhore you pathetic piece of shit.
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>>5974955
Don't be mean anon, I wasn't trying to mock anything. I don't hate women, cis or otherwise, there's no reason to reach that conclusion. I happen to value sexual freedom for women, and I think that demonizing female sexuality is the real issue, not "objectifying" women.

For example, say I was a cis woman, and part of my female sexuality was craving male attention. This is entirely natural - there's nothing wrong with it. But before the feminist movement succeeded, trying to act on this desire in the Western world would be seen as shameful, unladylike, and would likely get me labelled a whore. As society progressed there came the flappers, women more sexually liberated than their mothers and grandmothers before them, free to explore their sexuality in a way that women had never been allowed to before. Society quickly became more and more liberal with regards to sex and sexuality, until today gay marriage is legal in the States, and women are sexually liberated unlike any time before. However, prudes still exist, and they'll look for any justification (religion, decency, the children, etc.) to shame women back into their burkas. Now they've even infiltrated this third wave of feminism, pushing values that essentially mirror those of oppressive medieval societies, that male sexual attention is somehow "bad," completely disregarding that straight, sexually healthy women *want* male attention. Having and expressing your sexuality is NOTHING to be ashamed of, either for men or women, and it does NOTHING to devalue you as a human being. Telling a woman to be ashamed of her sexuality is like telling her to be ashamed of *being a woman*, and if that's what "feminists" push then I'm happy to bash them.
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>>5967478
>Jerking off and begging for sheckles

Its "Shekels" anon.... Shalom :^)

>>5971651
>Men bend over backwards for pretty girls

Only beta males supplicate to women tho, and it rarely ever works; but yeah you have a point good looking females do get a lot of attention. The problem for most trans girls is that the extreme majority of high value males want nothing to do with a trans girl, so realistically they are stuck with betas or fuckbois.... and most trans girls cant even lock that down 2bh.

So I can understand that cam whoring can be validating, its still lazy, childish, and taking the "easy way out" which never works in the long term.

>>5971724
>why can't camwhoring also be a "real goal?"

Is this nigga serious?

Selling your body is universally frowned upon in ALL human cultures everywhere in the entire world, there is not a single culture where whores and prostitutes are held in any esteem. They are the lowest of the low, literal human trash.

INB4
>muh Patriarchy

>>5972642
>a mature human being shouldn't be so pretentious as to think that every single facet of their life must revolve around their human dignity

But anon it does. Without dignity and honor you are nothing but trash that deserves to be put to the sword, even Barbarians understand this concept.

>>5972642
>>5975132
You are also conflating female sexual freedom with being a paid whore. No one cares if you suck a different dick every night, just dont try to make money off of it, dont publicize it, and get your ass up and go to class/work in the morning.

Jokes on you fags tho. I just met a passable trans girl from this site that lives close to me, is young, in good shape, is very intelligent and getting a high level education, holds moderate/slightly conservative Catholic values, actually has a sustainable plan for her future.

LUL just when I was giving up hope of finding anyone decent on this site... ISIS can throw the degenerates on this board off a building for all I care 2bh.
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>>5975244
Is =/= ought, just because something is doesn't mean that it should be. Women were NEVER permitted to vote in any cultures until the women's suffrage movement, just because something always was a certain way doesn't mean that it shouldn't change. Also, societal consensus on what constitutes "human garbage" has no bearing on an individual's values, and maybe there are some people that don't presume to call others garbage based on their profession. We might call these theoretical individuals "not assholes."

>Without dignity and honor you are nothing but trash
I assume, judging based on the fact that you're posting on 4chan, that you're not self-employed. Therefore, you're probably either in the working-class or a NEET. Both of these lack dignity and honor, there is nothing dignified or honorable in lowering yourself to a beast of burden or a parasite. When will you be falling on your sword?

>You are also conflating female sexual freedom with being a paid whore.
Yes? If the sexual aspect of it is something you don't object to, then why would you object to profiting from it? If sex is fine, and physical work is fine, then how can it only be fine to be paid for one, but not the other? How is being paid for sex degrading, when being paid to work for 8+ hours a day isn't?

I'm glad you found somebody you like, I hope she likes you back and you're not deceiving her in typical chaser fashion.
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>>5975408
>working-class or a NEET. Both of these lack dignity and honor

Spoken like a true whore, kill yourself. Uneducated brick.

>If sex is fine, and physical work is fine, then how can it only be fine to be paid for one

If sex is fine, and children are fine then why is sex with children not fine?

If your stupid ass took a Logic intro level Philosophy course you might understand the concept of a cogent argument.

Its pointless even trying to engage someone with your level of thought process tho 2bh, so I wont. There really is no point in beating up on a mental weakling.

Just lay back and open your legs bb girl, do what you are good at, do you. Bee urself xD

>you're not deceiving her in typical chaser fashion

LUL xD kek im not like those other guys bb girl, im different :^)
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>>5976037
>Spoken like a true whore, kill yourself. Uneducated brick.
If you disagree, could you elaborate? How is it honorable to labor under another person, where's the dignity in that?

>why is sex with children not fine?
Because children can't consent? There is no fundamental distinction between sex and other labors that you receive remuneration for that makes prostitution "wrong" while ordinary work is fine. Consent is the difference between screwing an adult and diddling a kid.

>Just lay back and open your legs bb girl, do what you are good at, do you. Bee urself xD
Please don't bully ;~;
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>>5976037
>Its pointless even trying to engage someone with your level of thought process tho 2bh, so I wont. There really is no point in beating up on a mental weakling.

Dude, I'm happy there is at least one other person on this board who has a functioning brain that has been nourished with education. There is no point trying to engage those who are so profoundly ignorant.
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