Neo-fascist Republican governor signs bill to prohibit cities

>>5913868
Refugees welcome

>>5913874
>Refugees welcome

???????

>LGBT people think gay marriage is the most important thing ever
>shit like this happens
>nobody cares

Are LGBT people fucking stupider than shit? Your rights are literally being taken away but you retards want to vote these fucktard Republishits in?

>>5913868
Republicans: Against Big Government except not.

>>5913881
Omg who cares? I already got my shiny ring and my big party

>>5913881
I don't give a shit what happens in North Carolina, it's the redneck state and that's how it is
They also didn't want solar panels because they think it will suck up the sun

>>5913890
>Republicans: Against Big Government except not.

The most hypocritical part is this prohibits CITIES AND COUNTIES from enacting their own laws. It's amazing just how two faced they are. This is why we need Hillary in the white house. We can not allow this ant-LGBT (increasingly getting more anti-lgbt) Republicans anywhere near public office, they have shown time and time again to pretty much try to make the lives of every living human being total shit.

>>5913910
So do muslims

>>5913899
>I don't give a shit what happens in North Carolina, it's the redneck state and that's how it is

They pass it there, they will start passing it in other states. This is the THIRD FUCKING STATE in the last couple of years to enact the ban the LGBT cities and counties ordinances bills.

Republicans won't stop until they enact Christian Sharia law and start executing all gay people. If Cruz is in, America goes theocracy.

maybe if we let in more muslims this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen

>>5913914
But Cruz won't win because Daddy will

>>5913925
>maybe if we let in more muslims this kind of bullshit wouldn't happen

Christians are the ones passing these laws, Muslims aren't doing shit to me here. Fuck off redneck.

>>5913910
Hillary won't do jack shit like usual. At least Bernie is naive enough to at least try to help us

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>>5913910
>Hillary

>>5913959
>>5913963
Hillary or Sander, we need a Democrat in the white house.

I would like a unity ticket, Hillary as president, Sanders as VP.

>>5913967
It's pointless either way. I'm just saying Bernie is the morally better choice, but the difference is neglible, even compared to Trump. It's Cruz & co we have to keep out at all costs.

>>5913868
>http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/3/23/north-carolina-house-strikes-down-lgbt-protections-statewide
>"Less than 10 hours after it was introduced, the bill unanimously passed the Republican-controlled Senate, in a vote of 32-0, because every Democratic Senator walked out of the chamber in protest"

Really you have nobody to blame other than the retarded Dems for this

>>5913990
>It's pointless either way.

US Supreme Court going Democrat for the first time in forever is pointless now? None of these anti-LGBT laws would exist if the US Supreme Court was controlled by Democrats. Guess who picks justices for the Supreme Court? President and Senate.

>>5913991
>Really you have nobody to blame other than the retarded Dems for this

Republicans have a SUPER majority in the house and senate idiot. They walked out because they knew what the vote was going to be and how the governor was going to sign it.

>>5913990
Lol, are you kidding? Trump is the worst.The worst out of every political candidate. I would rather have Bush back than sign in Trump. That man is borderline insane with an absolute god-complex. Who knows what someone who thinks that can "shoot someone on 5th Avenue and still be voted president the next day" would do once in office.

Why does anyone support this madman?

>>5914003
Seriously, watching apathetic Americans on the verge of letting Trump or Cruz shape the SCOTUS for decades is kind of scary. Please vote.

>>5914014
>Seriously, watching apathetic Americans on the verge of letting Trump or Cruz shape the SCOTUS for decades is kind of scary. Please vote.

Jesus fucking christ. The fact those two are the current frontrunners for the GOP nomination should tell you just how fucked this country is.

And this election is more important than ever, since Scalia's death.

>>5914003
> implying democrats actually care about us.
topkek we are on our own.
As always

>>5914009
All we have on the republican side is Godcomplex Trump and radical christian Cruz.
I'd pick the one so full of himself he doesn't care about others than the one who considers us an abomination.

That is assuming it won't be a democrat this time.

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>>5914026
>we are on our own.

We have one party that is slightly on our side some of our time.

And we have another who will put us in concentration camps if they get into office.

>>5913881
>rights
A transaction with private businesses isn't a right.

>>5914036
>And we have another who will put us in concentration camps if they get into office.
Removing protection laws is hardly "put in concentration camps".

>>5914036
>And we have another who will put us in concentration camps if they get into office.
it's sad that people actually believe this

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>>5914009
I'll list why, you uninformed man
>He's unarguably anti-establishment, the GOP establishment tried fucking hard to kill him
>He is the anti-PC and anti-cuckservative canidate, and only has himself to be controlled by, he's literally free to do whatever the fuck he wants
>He's immune to slander and lies by the media, in fact, it actually makes him stronger
>He is MUCH more likely to win the General Election than Cruz
>An uncountable amount of people hate Hillary more than they hate Trump
>If Trump takes Kasich for VP, he has a super high chance of winning Ohio
>Most people want immigration reform and don't want muslim terrorists coming into the country
I could go on but those are the major reasons why people like Trump

>>5914024
We need another Republican on the SCOTUS, fuck your shitty Dem judges, I don't want another fucking AWB and then a motherfucking Civil War

>>5914036
>Seriously beliving that Trump will put AMERICANS into concentration camps
Maybe if you're an illegal alien, Paco

>>5914036
That's why I prefer Bernie over Hillary. He likes us more than she does

>>5914043
>Removing protection laws is hardly "put in concentration camps".

>Ted Cruz's Pastor Endorses Death Penalty for LGBTQ People Minutes Before Inviting the Candidate to the Stage

http://www.teenvogue.com/story/ted-cruz-lgbt-execution

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>>5914046
>it's sad that people actually believe this

it's sad that you don't actually believe this.

>>5914009
You realize Trump is arguably the most pro-LGBT candidate, right?

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>>5914042
>A transaction with private businesses isn't a right.

>private
>drives on public roads to that "private business"

>>5914049
Does anyone still thinks about someone other than trump when talking about the republican candidate? Because no one else has really any chance.

>>5913967
I will never vote for Hillary, shes GW bush in drag and you're stupid if you believe for 1 second she'll do anything but hurt lgbt rights

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>>5914053

>>5914055
>You realize Trump is arguably the most pro-LGBT candidate, right?

Doesn't matter, Republicans as a party are cancer for our rights. He will appoint people to appeal the bible thumping jesus freaks, aka his base.

You cannot risk the US Supreme Court.

>>5914057
You're fucking stupid, and you're the reason gays are associated with fags, you talk about shit you know nothing about.

A private business pays taxes for those roads, for public services.
Public services, as the name implies, means anyone can use them, and are by nature non-discriminatory.
Private establishments, on the other hand, run by their own money. As such, they (should) have the right to deny their services to whoever they want. It would be a retarded business model to ban gays, as you would receive backlash, but they're not obligated to give you shit.
It's not a right.

>>5914075
>A private business pays taxes for those roads, for public services.

AND GAY PEOPLE DRIVE THOSE ROADS YOU FUCKING JACKASS

>>5914047
He wants to build a wall that would probably cost three times as much as he claims, he wants to make Mexico pay for the wall with money that doesn't exist and they don't really owe us. He has a series of idiotic business concepts behind him. He barely owes any of the businesses he claims to own. He is a pathological liar. He is terribly insecure and extremely immature when it comes to criticism. He fosters no intelligent discourse and instead takes to publicly insulting his opponents. He promotes war crimes. He promotes violence amongst his followers (while saying he is a man of peace). He wants to censor media.

How do people not see these very transparent personal assets. How do people not even for one second stop to think that this guy is just not cut out to lead a country.

>>5914071
As opposed to Clinton? You're delusional.

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>>5914047
This level of delusion is kind of amazing.

>He is MUCH more likely to win the General Election than Cruz

Cruz does better in every head to head match up with HRC than Trump

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_Clinton_vs._Republicans.html

>An uncountable amount of people hate Hillary more than they hate Trump

Trump has the lowest favourability of literally any candidate in the race on either side. Lower than HRC.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

>>5914053
liberal-who-cried-hitler meet boy-who-cried-wolf

>>5914075
And I guess we should go back to Jim Crow and call black people n*ggers and say women should have no rights and basically be catels!!!!11!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!

Yes I'm fucking mad, because you are 100 retarded lolbtaraian uncle tom house faggot who is arguing that we should adopt Christian sharia (aka right wing libertarianism)

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>>5914079
>As opposed to Clinton? You're delusional.

Clinton, as US Senator, was the seventh most progressive member of the senate. She voted against FISA 2008, CAFTA, bush tax cuts, and other horrible shit as senator.

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>>5914086
>it's a liberal gets upset when his pet minority doesn't agree with him episode

>>5914086
I used to be a libertarian it's kind of sad seeing them around. They tend to change once they turn 19 or 20

>>5914086
You're literally just shooting buzzwords.

>And I guess we should go back to Jim Crow
Jim Crow were enforced segregation laws, literally the opposite of what I'm saying.

>call black people n*ggers and say women should have no rights
You have the right to say whatever you want, women and blacks still have all the rights they have regardless of how a person feels about it.

>Christian sharia (aka right wing libertarianism)
I'm done, you're clearly a retarded highschooler if you can't tell the difference between social conservatives and libertarians.

Have fun shitposting.

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>>5914071
>I literally have no idea about the policies of Donald Trump
Jesus fuck dude you're stupid aren't you

The biblethumper candidate is Ted Cruz, he's a fuckin religious nut, but Trump is not at all a traditional conservative. He's mainly for reforming immigration entirely, and he doesn't have to appease anyone, he's working entirely for his own motives and for the good of the people

>>5914078
>with money that doesn't exist and they don't really owe us.
False, we give Mexico several million in aid funds every year, he's using the wall as a payback or otherwise they won't get that money anymore.
>He is a pathological liar.
Source?
>He fosters no intelligent discourse and instead takes to publicly insulting his opponents.
Source?
>He promotes war crimes.
Source?

Also, 90% of what you said could be put on Hillary

>>5914083
>Biased 'polls' don't exist
All of those are made by major news outlets that are strongly anti-trump you cunt

>>5914086
>Attacking right wing libertarianism as Christian Sharia
Literally kill yourself you cunt

>>5914095
You cannot be LGBT, women, black, Hispanic, Asian, and vote Republican. If you do you are a self hating uncle tom house faggot. Your a traitor to your own kind and you deserve to be beaten up and killed. Caitlyn Jenner is a prime example of someone who needs to have their face smashed in.

>>5914086
it cuts both way, if someone walks into a store you own wearing a crucifix then you can tell them to shove it and get out

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>>5914106
>you deserve to be beaten up and killed
you can try but you'll get trayvon'd that's the great thing about the 2nd amendment it protects my rights to suck cock better than any demoshit law.

>>5914108
>if someone walks into a store you own wearing a crucifix then you can tell them to shove it and get out

I don't want to discriminate against anyone retard. And that's not how it works in real life. In real life the minority gets discriminated against. Black people are one example of this. If we got ride of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, shit would get 1,000 times worse of people of color and women.

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I feel like this thread neatly encapsulates nearly everything wrong with this board and 4chan in general

>>5914120
>you can try but you'll get trayvon'd that's the great thing about the 2nd amendment it protects my rights to suck cock better than any demoshit law.

I really hope you live in redneck state where one of these white trash crackers shoots your queer ass. I would publicly out you to every anti-gay person I could find.

>>5913868
So? It won't mean anything. If the states could override the feds then this whole "muh states rights" thing wouldn't exist. They can pass any laws they want but it won't be able to be enforced. This is nothing more than a publicity stunt designed to rile up the idiots

>>5913910
>This is why we need Hillary in the white house

I Agree

If the republicans are going to infringe the rights of local governments and LGBT people then we need Hillary "we cannot let a minority of people hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people" Clinton to level the playing field and take away everybody's rights

>>5914132
>I feel like this thread neatly encapsulates nearly everything wrong with this board and 4chan in general

A lot of self hating uncle toms.

>if we just give Christians the power to discriminate and lynch us maybe they will accept us.

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>>5914134
all the rednecks in my area don't give a shit about who you fuck. they're nice and accepting folks more so than you.

>>5914105
On mobile, otherwise I could just send you videos and excerpts of things he quite literally said on television.

And not knowing the source doesn't make it non-existent.

Furthermore I don't get the comment about Hillary. I'm not American. I just comment on what I see. And Trump is insanely popular on 4chan and on this board. And I just don't see why. Every single speech he has given and appearance he made in public was littered with lies, insecurity and unconstitutional acts.

Furthermore, the wall is his most retarded idea yet. How anyone thinks it would actually be worth all the effort is beyond me. It would probably cost more than 20 billion dollars, double that for maintenance in the span of several years and would be built on the land of American citizens who's owned territory would be forcefully taken by the government. And for what? So that people just take ladders with them to get over the wall? Ladders and ropes?

His persistence about this stupifying undertaking and the fact that nobody has actually criticized him for it speaks volumes about American politics. Instead, other reps copied his idea and promised a wall too. Fucking priceless.

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>>5914103
>I'm done, you're clearly a retarded highschooler if you can't tell the difference between social conservatives and libertarians.

1. American "libertarianism" is far right wing. It's not about equality or anarchism like true libertarian socialism found in Europe. The American branch is all about total corporate tyranny.

As for you fallacy of "difference between social conservatives and libertarians" I'll have you know a good many libertarians have advocated the death penalty for lgbt people. There was a libertarian Republican not to long ago running in OK, who said homosexuals should be stoned to death. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and the tea party are libertarian and they are social fascists and anti-gay as fuck.

ISIS is libertarian in the sense they got rid of the state and when you get rid of the state guess what replaces it? RELIGION and religious LAWS. Not state laws, religious laws. So basically advocating for libertarianism you are advocating for a society where homos are executed on a daily basis, since there are no police to protect lgbt people.

>>5914150
Probably a combination of the youngest part of the userbase which still hasn't overcome all its residual internalised homophobia, and 4chan attracting edgy pseuds with stupid opinions. This is a bad website. I'm just here for the memes and the anonymous bants.

And I would love a Marxist/communist country were religious people were executed on a daily basis. Bring back the Soviet Union fucking when?

>>5914161
>I'm not American.
>insecurity and unconstitutional acts.
Lmao kill yourself, you're irrelevant. And wrong too. Carter closed the country to muslims during the hostage crisis.

>>5913910
The Republican Party is doomed regardless. In ten years it will cease to exist.

>>5914167
Take your shitty political opinions here >>>/pol/

In fact I'd like a mod to just drop this thread into /pol/ cause it's blatantly a political thread

>>5914188
>In ten years it will cease to exist.

We can only pray.

>>5914009
>why does anyone support this madman?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jpWrsEpWgrc

>>5914180
Wrong about what exactly? And when I say unconstitutional acts, I mean him needing and willing to steal citizen's property just to build the wall, albeit unsolicited.

Literally American citizens would need to give up their land to build the wall through their front yards.

That's unconstitutional lest I checked.

Also:
>not American
>can't have opinion on America

Typically American, any criticism from the outside is shut down and ignored.

>>5913868
Lmao

This shit is a non issue. It's almost comical about how butthurt people get over special snowflake issues that hold zero value in the real world.

>>5913914
>Christians are so evil
>let's vote for Hillary who will bring millions of peaceful Muslims. Remembers Islam is religion of peace unlike those Christian terrorists

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>>5914202
I don't go over to british politics and say "Man you shouldn't elect this fuck" because that's literally as pointless as pissing in the wind

>>5914208
>what is uganda
>what is russia

>>5914053
Do you know what really makes me hate leftists. That leftists minimize holocaust by throwing hitler yemach shemo around for no reason. Fuck you for spitting on my families graves leftist piece of shit. My grandparents lost their ENTIRE family in Europe. Donald trumps daughter is jewish his grandchildren are jewish he's pro Israel.

While Hillary had long history if being close friends with arafats and pro Palestinian. She calls her staffers "dirt Jews" her leaked emails shows her openly antis emetic exchanges with staffers. The only reason she preted to be pro Israel is pandering. She needed jewish vote to win senate NY. But that woman helped craft obamas anti Israel policies as secretary state. She is evil.

>>5914210
Yeah, literally nothing except your own country matters. Because we live in the dark ages. Fuck man, American elections affect the whole world. Of course everyone should care about who gets access to nukes and a huge amount of military resources.

Are you retarded? Do you think I should literally not care about what goes on in any country other than my own?

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>>5914234
>obamas anti Israel policies

>>5914222
not America

Christians in America aren't in the streets beheading people and if you look at Europe to see how Muslims behave in western countries then I don't want them in this one.

>>5914222
What is Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Isis, Nigeria, Yemen, Brunei, Mauritania, morocco, I could keep going on if you would like. I can name many more muslim countries were homosexuals are legally executed and jailed. There's plenty more

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>>5914243
>Christians in America aren't in the streets beheading people

Nether are Muslim Americans beheading people in the streets of America.

But it's Christian Americans denying me fundamental rights with state sanctioned discrimination, something that is akin to Nazism.

This is why I'm going to cast my vote, along with the overwhelming majority of LGBTQ people, for Hillary Clinton this November.

>>5914238
>giving Iran nuclear weapons
>Israeli disapproval ratings of obama at 75%
Now I know you are troll.

>>5914245
>What is Iran, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Isis, Nigeria, Yemen, Brunei, Mauritania, morocco, I could keep going on if you would like. I can name many more muslim countries were homosexuals are legally executed and jailed. There's plenty more

Again what does this have to do with Republican Christians in America denying me my fundamental rights you stupid retard?

>Muslim nations do bad shit to gay people
>therefore American Christians should do bad shit to gay people as well

Why do social conservatives like you do this? Sorry some of us aren't COCKSUCKING CHRISTFAGS LIKE YOU!

>>5914188
oh but it's not, if Trump isn't elected the guy who comes after hillary in will be much worse and it will continue until one gets elected

best to get it over with now with the first iteration of the American authoritarian.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

>>5914247
>something that is akin to Nazism
As a jewish person who's grandparents escaped nazism fuck you. You minimize the death of millions of people you are pure evil.

>>5914255
You listed Russia and Uganda you retard.

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>>5914251
>giving Iran nuclear weapons

Troll post confirmed. Iran deal is the most pro-Israeli deal ever. It PREVENTS Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon you stupid fucking neo-con piece of shit.

>Israeli disapproval ratings of obama at 75%

That only means Israelis are racist towards the first black president. He's administration has vetoed every anti-Israel bill ever in the UN and keeps giving them billions of dollars. If I had it my way, you Israelis won't get a single dime for the USA till you stop with the apartheid stuff with the Palestinians.

>>5914259
>As a jewish person who's grandparents escaped nazism fuck you. You minimize the death of millions of people you are pure evil.

You act like Jews were the only people killed during the Holocaust.

>>5914261
>You listed Russia and Uganda you retard.

I was pointing out that in Christian nations, Christians are actively working to kill/discriminate aganist lgbt people.

How about we concentrate on working building up LGBT rights in America (the most backwards of any developed nation on LGBT rights) and than we can start pointing the figure at other nations.

>>5914042
I suppose you also think it's a "right" for private businesses to charge people 75% extra for being black?

>>5914055
He's the most pro-gay Republican.

>>5914075
For a private establishment to legally exist, it must follow certain laws. If the law says it cannot arbitrarily discriminate against customers without consequences, then there is no real right to do so.

>>5914103
>Jim Crow were enforced segregation laws, literally the opposite of what I'm saying.
And here the lolbertarian demonstrates his delusional belief that segregation is "oppression" when done by the government but """freedom""" when done by private individuals.

>>5914108
I don't think businesses should be allowed to discriminate, even against KKK members or Christian fundamentalists. Because at some point, you'll have to either concede that there are SOME businesses that shouldn't be allowed to discriminate (e.g. hospitals) and arbitrarily draw that line somewhere, OR you'll end up with people dying because the nearest doctor is a racist/homophobe etc.

>>5914247

>LGBTQ
>Q

into the fucking trash it goes

>>5914083
Those polls will change in general election, as it stands Hilary will get destroyed in general election because of the anti establisment case, the fact is that Hilary is starting to be really hated to Bernie fans and that vote which is needed. The dont need to switch to trump but not vote for Hilary and that will tank her vote.

>>5914167
> true libertarian socialism

Holy fuck, stop posting, you literally have no idea what you're saying.

>>5913911
>it doesn't matter if republicans outlaw being gay or are hypocritic manipulators about small/big government and ruin the economy to focus on christian morality issues because they'll totally magically somehow protect you from obama bin laden and his muslim hoards that are literally standing outside your house RIGHT NOW HURRY HURRY VOTE FOR TRUMP DON"T ASK ANY QUESTIONS!!!!!!11!

>>5913948
No you dumb librul jewish errand-boy, they mentioned muslims and immigration, that means they win and none of your points or "facts" are valid!

You're probably an ISIS sleeper agent trying to defend muslims, like that terrorist at the trump rally that hero punched out before he could chop off a little girls's head!

>>5914006
U mad demoshill?

>>5914284
>suppose you also think it's a "right" for private businesses to charge people 75% extra for being black?
And you DON'T you traitor communist muslim piece of shit?
Why do you hate the free market?

>>5914245
>>theres plenty more
I dont think you understand how country borders work, russia is bigger than all of those places.

>>5914259
see
>>5914266
Lots of jews died but you are patently retarded if you dont understand how many jews have tried to make it all about them. for example, blacks, homosexuals, trannys, pretty much anyone pol would call a degenerate wound up in concentration camps.

>>5914284
> it's a "right" for private businesses to charge people 75% extra for being black?
It's a right for them to do whatever they want within the law, it's their enterprise. If they want to do something so blatantly stupid that they receive backlash from their customers, let them.

>I don't think businesses should be allowed to discriminate
Why?
Medical care is in a different field and all providers are required by law to help you in the case of an emergency. It has absolutely no barring to whether or not bubba jim's cake shope is forced to bake you a vanilla penis pie.

You seem to be paranoid that all business will suddenly become hostile towards gays, which simply isn't true.

>>5914691
>It's a right for them to do whatever they want within the law, it's their enterprise. If they want to do something so blatantly stupid that they receive backlash from their customers, let them.
yeah no, if they want to do something in an environment they share with other people they can get their anus raised in the air so we can smack their ass, because thats how the law should work, and instead, corporations just buy whatever bill they want to put into place, like SOPA, which passed fucking easily when the people making it finally sucked off google. what you thought google was against sopa?

>>5914658
Because the free market can already contribute to the oppression of those born without money. Giving them the right to refuse service arbitrarily would just allow more bases of oppression.

>>5914691
>It's a right for them to do whatever they want within the law, it's their enterprise. If they want to do something so blatantly stupid that they receive backlash from their customers, let them.
I'm pretty sure that charging people extra for being black is NOT within the law.

>Medical care is in a different field and all providers are required by law to help you in the case of an emergency. It has absolutely no barring to whether or not bubba jim's cake shope is forced to bake you a vanilla penis pie.
Medical care isn't the only field that's arguably a necessity though. Like, would it also be legal for electrical power companies to refuse to serve households based on race or sexuality or something?

>>5914751
You seem irrationally paranoid that the US is filled with people who hate gays at every corner, if that were true, gay marriage wouldn't be legal.
Plus, again, what large business would risk the backlash of cutting off blacks, gays, or whoever? It's just bad business.

The only ones who you would see actually use their right to refuse service would be small time shit, like bubba jim's cake shop as I mentioned.

By pure circumstance, even if a bigger company were to deny service, say Comcast, there would be alternatives.
(Comcast would actually be broken up in a libertarian setting, as they effectively hold a monopoly in a large portion of the US, especially the Mid-West).

>>5914691
>The free market will fix it !

Do libertarians have any arguments that doesn't involve blind obedience to the Invisible Hand or heavy praxeology ?

>>5914781
people dont hate gays around every corner dumbass, they hate people who are viewed as different and strange. gay people just happen to fall under that.

I hate fags because they're liberal, not because of their sexual orientation

>>5913948
that's what i said retard. good reading comprehension

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Everyone in this thread is a disgusting liberal. You all make me physically ill.

>>5914821
>Do libertarians have any arguments that doesn't involve blind obedience to the Invisible Hand or heavy praxeology ?

Sure. Don't be an asshole and use violence against your fellow man.

>>5914999
Pretty sure discriminating against customers on the basis of race or orientation would count as being an asshole.

>>5915045

Sure. A lot of things make you an asshole. I can agree with that. Libertarians don't need to be indifferent to social injustice. That's a caricature.

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>>5915065
the fuck is social justice?

>>5914284
>And here the lolbertarian demonstrates his delusional belief that segregation is "oppression" when done by the government but """freedom""" when done by private individuals.

So you believe that gay private clubs should be forced to serve female customers then? That they should be heavily fined/arrested if they have a men's only night?

>>5914999
>Don't be an asshole and use violence against your fellow man.

Who would enforce this without the state (aka use of violence)? Stateless society will literally turn into Somalia.

Libertarians BTFO

>>5913868
Cities should have the right to decide on this issue for themselves. Considering how neo conservatives are all for populist rights I find this move hypocritical.

>>5915511
>Cities should have the right to decide on this issue for themselves. Considering how neo conservatives are all for populist rights I find this move hypocritical.

Yup, they are the biggest fucking hypocrites on the planet. Around the country, states are enacting laws prohibiting cities and counties from enacting LGBT rights laws, bans on franking, minimum wage increases, etc.

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>>5914048
>le trump will put people in camps meme
>supporting a candidate whose favorite president literally put a hundred thousand people in concentration camps

>>5914167
>The Islamic State isn't a state
They're actually a wonderful example of a state because they really lay bare the brutal reality of how states work without any of the social contract, consent of the governed bullshit to cover it up.

>>5914042
Leftists don't understand what rights are, dude. They've completely watered down the word to meaninglessness (I guess it still has rhetorical power, but it's denotatively worthless).

>>5914053
Because I'm not a paranoid schizo?

>>5914057
>government monopolizes the roads
>you have to use our roads, therefore it's OK if we oppress you

>Roy Cooper statement on unprecedented legislation introduced in the special session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phCtJcJgx88

>>5915861
>government monopolizes the roads

Tell me, do you want to pay private people to drive on certain roads or be forced to not drive on them?

>GUBMINT BAD
>BIG CORPORATIONS ARE GOOD

>>5915861
>government monopolizes the roads

NEWSFUCKINGFLASH: Government in it of itself is a monopoly.

http://strawpoll.me/7174230
http://strawpoll.me/7174230
http://strawpoll.me/7174230
http://strawpoll.me/7174230

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I live in North Carolina, and I practice law here.
I figured out how to btfo out of this bill and challenge it constitutionally

>Need new employees in my workplace
>In charge of hiring since solo/small firm practice area
>Just put out job listing saying that I am specifically seeking LGBT individuals, and straight people need not apply

What they don't realize is the Bill says, on its face, that sexual orientation is not under the protected categories. I can refuse to hire or to serve you if you are a straight person.

I highly recommend that every LGBT person I know with the ability to put out job listings or hire individuals do something similar.

Watch Pat McCrory and the rest of the NC legislature realize how badly they fucked up.

>>5914094
>not mentioning benghazi
>not mentioning the blatant lie that was told to the people to cover up benghazi
>not admitting that she's clearly a part of a political machine designed to keep oil companies and wall street from continuing to fuck up the enviornment and economy
>not mentioning the private email servers

She's a fucking snake, Anon.

>>5916054
wait, really? wow. i live in NC too.
>which area u live at tho

>>5916145
Smack dab in the middle of Ground Zero in Charlotte.
I sat in the ordinance meetings and even read the documents afterwards.

>>5916154
woah, well, what were the reactions of people at the meetings? any interesting anecdotes? im capping this btw

>>5915239
Yes. They can choose to provide services that cater to men, they can choose to hold special events aimed at men, but I don't think they should be allowed to actually refuse to serve female customers.

>>5915834
The notion of "rights" existing outside of de facto enforcement thereof is nonsensical. You can say you have a right to something, but unless that right is actually protected it's all make-believe.

>>5916124
Okay, what is this "blatant lie"?

>>5916158
Not a whole lot.
The ones that bothered me were the people against the ordinance who quoted the Bible and used arguments of morality.

Like I will accept you get people who are scared and will resort to "but what about the safety of the children?"

But the Bible shenanigans was pretty asinine.

Otherwise, it was about 140 testimonies, from both sides, on why we should or shouldn't have gender neutral bathrooms. There were some radical opinions on both sides.

All in all, the fact that the ordinance wouldn't have gone into effect until April 1st meant businesses had plenty of time, month and a half from the hearing, to work on their policies and shit.

The fact that Pat McCrory, after catching wind of the meeting, vowed retaliation when the legislature got back into session shows how god awful he is.

As soon as his term is up, I'm getting together all my kink and LGBT friends, gonna try and get them registered to vote, and we are voting him out of office.

>>5916124
>she's clearly a part of a political machine designed to keep oil companies and wall street from continuing to fuck up the enviornment and economy
How is that a bad thing?

>>5913868
Nfl and Disney already said they are pulling out. The floodgates are opening and the state will soon find itself impoverished.

>>5916180
The supposed youtube video that sparked all of this hate in the east and resulted in the lynching of our representatives did not exist.

Local tensions near the embassy were reaching a climax, and when they failed to send some sort of reinforcements after repeated requests from the embassy, our ambassador was tortured publicly as a result of their inaction. In response, Hillary and Co fabricated a narrative putting youtube users to blame, but then the supreme court became involved and we finally knew about the administrations lies.

More about it:http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426013/hillary-clinton-benghazi-lies

If this source doesn't suffice I've got more.

>>5916198
whoopsies typo
"she's clearly part of a political machine designed to keep oil companies and wall street from owning up to destroying the envoirnment and economy" is what I meant

>>5916195
Yeah, McCrory is a goof.

>>5913881
Fuck the Carolina's! I won't ever be going there.

>>5913881
To be frank ass hat a civil partnership is practically the same thing. Stop being such a whiny cunt and think a bit, okay?

>>5913948
Yeah, you're right.
We should let in more Muslims so they can kill us instead of christians telling us that we can't get married in only THEIR states. Idiot.

>>5914690
>nazis killed blacks
>citation needed
Nazis employed Africans and even had African division just like nazis employed Muslims and worked with Muslims in Balkans and Palestine.

>>5914684
You've already lost the argument and now you're moving the goalpost. You are trying to demonize "evil Christians" by listing two Christian countries that have anti gay laws. The WORST an anti gay Christian will do is refuse to approve your marriage or sell you goods. Anti gay Muslims kill you or throw you in jail, there are over 20 muslim countries where homosexuality is punishable by fines, jail, lashes or death, all of which combine. Have a total population and border larger than Russia and represent a half of the world muslim population. And you want to vote for someone who wants to bring millions of Muslims into USA and demonize Christians? Just wait until you get shariah zones

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>>5915504

>>5916435
No tax rights, can't inherit property or leave it to kids without state taking near all of it. No custody.

It's essentially a lot of proscriptions

>>5914878
>people don't hate gays they just hate gays!
>ad homonym
This is just sad. Please stop trolling

>>5916435
>>5916555
Also, in terms of domestic violence and restraining orders, unless same sex couples have been living together as roommates for some time, they didn't have the same protections straight couples and straight married people did in DV cases.

>>5916559
name calling isn't an adhom, dumbass

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Who the h*ck lives in North Carolina anyway? Just cede the whole south to the nigger rednecks already.

>>5913910
Nice $hillary ad, pham.

>>5916539
>worst an anti gay Christian will do is refuse to approve your marriage or sell you goods

>What is gay bashing?
>What is fire and brimstone preaching
>What is that one rally where the heads of it advocate for killing all the gays

Face it, and this is coming from a gay Christian, Abrahamic covenants in general are pretty fucking shit. But to handwave away Christians as "oh they'll just tell you you can't do it" while saying "But the Muslims will kill you or throw you in jail" is wrong. Especially since shit happened in our country like GRID, laws that actually made homosexuality a jailable offense, and we still have people who get killed for being LGBT

Hey just a crazy thought: maybe the bill is a good thing because it will weed out hons from women's bathrooms and there is no way some Paul Blart Bathroom Cop will guard every women's bathroom in the state and check women-looking people for a penis but they will certainly stop obvious men in dresses whether they had SRS or not. It's a win win situation for everyone!
You just have to read between the lines, people.

>>5916550
If Somalia's so great, why don't you move there?

>>5914105
>The numbers don't support Trump because literally every number is biased
I suppose you think every major news organization committed fraud when compiling their data? If not, would you care to point out the problem with their methodology?

>He's a pathological liar
Well let's just have a sampling
>66 counties in Florida has never happened before
>Never in favor of Lybia intervention
>Unemployment is probably 28-42%
>Obama wants to take in 250,000 refugees
>81% of murdered whites are killed by blacks

Targeting non-combatant family members of combatants is a war crime.

I'm surprised you'd bother asking for a source for the claim that Trump publicly insults his opponents, but see:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html
And before you start complaining about the source, note that it's got the quotes as well as links to the primary sources.

>Border wall payment comes from forgone aid
We give Mexico some eight hundred million, or 800,000,000, dollars annually.
That's not estimated to pay for maintenance or staffing of the wall.

But honestly the personal insecurity, fondness of censorship, and support of violence that you didn't bother contradicting is more than enough not to support the guy.

>>5916630
lol, 50% of LGBT people in the U.S. have been physically assaulted by straight Christians once or more for being LGBT. 40% have been fired from a job at least once by straight Christians for it. 20% have been kicked out of their homes by their parents, almost 10% have been disowned, 30% have been denied housing even though they had the money to pay for the housing, 40% have been homeless for at least a month.

I think it's funny in a sick kind of way that you Christians are so dumb that you think your memes can fool LGBT people. Direct your lies at straight people, whom you might actually fool with your bullshit.

I was kicked in the head in my sleep by a straight Christian and suffered permanant brain damage, I was blind for 2 days, and couldn't walk or speak for 3. But I'm gonna believe these lies about how Christians are deserve life any day now.

>neo-fascist
"Fascist" means nothing anymore.

>>5920677
It means the same thing it's always meant.

Christian.

>>5914690
The Romany were killed in far higher rates them the Jewish peoples.

Fantastic. >>>/pol/shit on page 1
>>5913868
>Neo-fascist
[Citation needed]
>Republican governor signs bill to prohibit cities from passing [X]
Well this can make sense from practical and legal reasons. If a municipality or county passes a law against discriminating against X, say against bringing pets into establishments, it may create a legal issue with firms established in other jurisdictions, or incorporated by the State, thereby causing lengthy and expensive legal battles.

I have yet to read the article, but I suspect it's something with an administrative purpose like what I just mentioned.

>LGBT civil rights laws
Having yet to read the article, I can't comment on this yet, but something tells me this has to do with privileges more than rights, or enacting some inane legislation like barring local pension funds from disinvesting in LGBT-supporting firms


http://www.advocate.com/politics/2016/3/23/north-carolina-house-strikes-down-lgbt-protections-statewide

>>5920573
yeah and 25% of women have been raped at college right?

>>5920700
De Gaulle was Christian.
Roosevelt was Christian.
Attlee was Christian (if Churchill is too controversial for you).
The French, Polish, Finnish and Danish resistance were largely Christian.

Hitler was a Christian, albeit near heretical.

Mussolini was a vitriolic atheist, anti-theist and anti-clericalist all his life
>which was amazing considering that he ruled over the nation which surrounded Rome and was heavily Catholic for over 1600 years, and he never even feigned religiosity or acceptance of it

Japan was a strange combination of Shinto and Emperor worship during WWII.

The Mufti al-Husseini, although based in the Levant and later Iraq, was obviously Muslim and garnered support for Hitler from the Pan-Arab movement.

Franco admittedly was a dipped in gold Vaticuck(and turned out to be one of the least violent leaders).

Yet hurr fucking durr, we see this shit lifted straight from RevLeft and DailyKos
>Fascism=Christianity
>Christianity=Fascism

Go to our /pol/, 8 /pol/, r/darkenlighenment, or F101's Channel and see what actual fascists have to say about Christianity.
Go see what William Luther Pierce and George Lincoln Rockwell had to say about Christianity.
I'm a fucking atheist but statements like this make us lose credibility.

>>5921034


>lawmakers voted overwhelmingly .. in response to Charlotte, N.C. passing a transgender-inclusive nondiscrimination ordinance.
>The state’s Republican-led House of Representatives passed House Bill 2 by a vote of 83-24
>the bill unanimously passed the Republican-controlled Senate, in a vote of 32-0, because every Democratic Senator walked out of the chamber in protest
>OP Fail 1
Mischaracteriziation of the governor as some autocrat, when this was democratically decided by and large.
Side note: it's interesting when the LGBT community supports the Democratic side of the Democratic-Republic coin when it suits them
>muh will of the people!
and the Republic side of the coin when it suits them
>muh inalienable rights! Muh precedent! The 999 will never trump the rights of the 1!

>>5921267
>OP Fail 2
Unable to burden-shift or Devil's Advocate. Lrn2Law101, Rhetoric 101, Poli Sci 101.
.
>Charlotte's public accommodations ordinance, ... adding sexual orientation and gender identity to the city’s antidiscrimination law.
>The ordinance does not affect employment, only public accommodations — and does include guarantees that transgender people can use the facilities that correspond with their gender identity.
>The ordinance applies to shops, restaurants, taxi and limousine services, and other businesses that serve the general public.
>Businesses refusing to serve same-sex weddings or LGBT Pride events, for instance, would be in violation of the ordinance.

I see where the state is coming from. Charlotte is using "public accommodations" as the newest derivation of restrictions on "public-facing facilities". Law truly is a slippery slope. If Charlotte wanted to do this for truly public accommodations within its jurisdiction, i.e. for all City of Charlotte offices and buildings, I don't think there would have been much of an issue on the state-level, except for implementation in schools, especially high schools (which contrary to trans' feelings, is a huge liability issue).

The further application to private industry does make the rest of N.C. an economic externality. How? Charlotte is the largest city, and thus responsible for a disproportionate amount of the state's GDP and tax revenue. Increased regulations, especially those nebulous in enforcement, and associated with lengthy, expensive, and PR-tanking lawsuits would naturally drive away some business activities to other states. The rest of the State may have a legitimate interest in this legislation then.

>>5921377
As a matter of practicality, it would take a huge and expensive intervention and investigation into businesses as to their upholding of this law. As stated earlier, it's also a difficult legal issue for those firms based in other jurisdictions. Car service and limo lines, which can theoretically traverse the entire state, can only be enforced within city limits. What if the company says they will only take the client no further than the city limits? If a catering service is based in Raleigh, was contracted to rented out a venue in Charlotte (thereby operating in it temporarily), and its workers refused to serve food to a trans person, does said trans person have a legal claim? What if it was a purely private invitation-only event that had a sales component (say a Christian Book Convention)? What about publicly-facing events and conventions by private organizers? Can Charlotte force them to drop their discretion? What if the event was organized by Muslims, and barred Christian (non-head dress) women, and claimed religious exemption? Is Charlotte going to sue?

As a matter of philosophy, what right does Charlotte have to strip right to refuse service, or to force transactions to happen? How did it disentangle the management of closely held companies by religious families, from the operations of those companies, in such a way that doesn't offend the free exercise clause?

>>5921420

>“Discrimination is wrong, period,”
No. Discrimination is not "wrong" per se. Firms organizations and individuals already posses a right to discriminate against a theoretically infinite amount of people for an infinite amount of qualities. Clothing, hygiene, smell, volume, manners, past actions, community reputation, and matching industry shoplifting descriptions.

What's even more problematic is in the clash of positive rights of private entities and positive obligations placed upon them, the positive obligations seem to be winning out more and more.

>“That North Carolina is making discrimination part of the law is shameful.
Emotional appeal
> It will not only cause real harm to families
Citation needed
> but to our economy as well. We have seen how this played out when Indiana tried it — businesses left the state, or thought twice about bringing in new jobs, and millions of dollars in revenue was lost
>Indeed, after Indiana last year passed and subsequently amended a so-called Religious Freedom Restoration Act that opponents decried as a “license to discriminate,” the state took an estimated $60 million financial hit, and untold damage to its reputation as nationwide outrage from business, political, celebrity, and academic communities was foisted on the state.
I need to look more into this. The last I've looked into Indiana it was doing relatively well for itself, and the flight of business may have to do with confounding variables i.e. the economic fundamental in Indiana and the midwest at large.

>>5921749
I found the full text of the state bill,
http://ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2/Bills/House/PDF/H2v1.pdf

But until I find a full text of the city ordinance and its relevant amendment, it would not be fair to make any comment about either law. Until then, and before my boyfriend decides to give me an ethanol enema, it might be a better use of time to respond to shitposts until then.

>>5913881
>Your rights are literally being taken away but you retards want to vote these fucktard Republishits in?
Right to bear arms
Right to transact on a voluntary basis without over-extension of government
Right to keep what I earn
Right to my property not being trespassed on or stolen from
Right to say what I want about whom I want when I want

These things are not really Dem ideas.

Also, the "right" (privilege) in question is forcing private firms to allow trans people to use the bathrooms of their choosing, beliefs of the owner and comfort of the other customers be damned.

Furthermore, most of the Reps on this board support Trump, who largely supports 'LGBT issues' and has only recently pandered to tackle Obergefel (which was a horrendous decision for multiple reasons).
>>5913899
>I don't give a shit what happens in North Carolina, it's the redneck state and that's how it is
I agree with the right of NC to do what it did, but even as someone ideologically opposed I can see the issues some may have with it, namely that it might spread, or it would be years before it gets through the courts.
>They also didn't want solar panels because they think it will suck up the sun
[Citation needed]

>>5913910
>>5913910
Yes, generally Republicans believe in the rights of smaller jurisdictions to do as they wish. However there are some important caveats you are missing.
>1.
There are already, now, existing restrictions on smaller jurisdictions. States are barred by the federal government from having minimum wage lower than 7.25. No state may enter treaties. Cities are typically typically barred from starting their own court system without state approval. There may be further restrictions on which governmental entity may contract with whom.

>2.
In terms of constitutional structure, the states are the unit of governance in the US. They chartered the Federal Government over them into existence, and they chartered the cities and counties under them into existence

>3.
"enacting their own laws" at times can lead to negative legal and economic externalities to the state at large.

>It's amazing just how two faced they are
Politicians being two-faced isn't amazing.

>This is why we need Hillary in the white house
Fuck me. I just responded to epic b8.

>>5913948
>Muslims aren't doing shit to me
How would you like a ticket to any Muslim country of your choice-it can be a democratic nation as well, in case you think repression is a function of autocracy- under the stipulation that you have to act like a total fag during your time there.
>>5914222
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_by_country
Look at every nation 65% and above
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
Same for this list. I'm not saying that every country in the former list is perfect- some are abject shitholes- but to deny trends between them as they relate to the LGBT and other communities is ignorant at "best" and disingenuous at worst.

>>5914238
>Nuclear deal with Iran that the state department and intelligence agencies stated will not stop what they call the eventual nuclear proliferation of Iran- which by that point will lead to proliferation of the KSA and an arms war in the middle east, full of non-rational actors that MAD may not apply to

>Deal stipulated that there were only three facilities that can be checked (when most reports assume that Iran may have multiple underground facilities around the country for various stages of unauthorized nuke production), that paperwork must be filed separately for inspection of each one of these facilities, and after that is approved, that 28 day notice is to be given

>His Syria rebel policy split the relations between the US' Sunni allies and Israel that Kissinger forged out of blood to the point where Israel opened up more to Russia- who they were somewhat neutral on except for their alliance with the Shiite Bloc who in turn funds arms and trains Hamas and Hezbollah

I'm no fan of some of Israel's foreign policy history, but Obama created one geopolitical mess after another on 3 continents, or at least accelerated the spread of the mess set in motion by Bush.

>>5914003>>5914014>>5914024
Here are some things liberal jurists have signed on to in the past or are proposing now

>First amendment
Hate speech is not free speech
>Second amendment
No personal right to carry (despite the legal and historical context to the contrary). That "infringement" term changes with the times, man.
>Fourth Amendment
Libs can be just as bad as cons on 4A rights (and Scalia was the biggest defender of 4A right in history), especially on matters of 'public safety' and 'environmentalism,and expanding the scope of plain'view' and probable cause of LEOs dealing in these matters (I used this lead detector with a 50% margin of error on your front door which detected just the bare minimum, do you have lead paint in your apartment let me in pls).
>Sixth amendment
Who can forget the liberal jurists promoting "virtual trials" where the accused doesn't have to face the accuser directly for fear of causing undue distress. Is she being coached behind the scenes? Can a courtroom extend so far beyond physical boundaries? Who cares!
>10th amendment
Hahahaha
>14th amendment
Lets extend it far beyond its original meaning through a series of politically motivated yet undemocratic reinterpretations!

>>5914006
I'm not too familiar with the proceedings in NC, but I suspect they also had the right to filibuster.
>>5914009
>Trump is the worst.
Compared to the snake, the war criminal, and the opportunist many beg to differ.

> I would rather have Bush back than sign in Trump.
Because destabilizing the middle east and ramping up overpriced deals with defense contractors was just grand.

>That man is borderline insane
He seems to be two steps ahead of the media and three steps ahead of all the other candidates.

>Why does anyone support this madman?
He's even more of a pacifist than Sanders.
He will get a foot in the door to repealing the Immigration Act of 1965.
The wall will send a message to Europe that it's okay to defend their borders.
Russia and the US can together finally deal with the golems they propped up in years prior in the form of Shiite and Sunni extremism.
It will fuck up both the RNC and DNC establishments.
He doesn't seem beholden to anybody.
>>5914036>>5914053
>who will put us in concentration camps

Remember that time we had a GOP white house, house, senate, plurality among the states and a conservative SCOTUS?

I don't seem to recall them shipping us in cattlecars.

Remember when we had a republican president from 1981-1993?
Funnily, no cattlecars come to mind.

Remember that time when homosexuality was still considered a mental illness? Sure, some people lost their jobs and were blackmailed, yet camps and cattle cars seem to be missing from that page of history.

Know what would blow people's minds? Trump/Sanders ticket. Trump can work on his wall and immigration reform and Sanders can work on making healthcare and college affordable and fucking audit the federal bank. It would make protesters detonate on the spot.

>>5921060
Wrong it's actually 2 out of 1 women are raped every day in college campuses.

does anyone have the city law
i found this
http://charmeck.org/city/charlotte/nondiscrimination/Documents/NDO%20FAQ'S-Public%20Accomodations_Final_3-14-16.pdf

but i dont think it covers the new trans items

>>5924026
>but i dont think it covers the new trans items

That's just a right wing bullshit talking point. Look Lee Atwater, who said the GOP need to stop talking about segregation, but taxes and cutting government, which was code for whites that it would hurt blacks the most. It's the same with this "bathroom" bullshit. It's a public accommodations law. It simply means you cannot deny services to anyone who is LGBT. GOP went into a shit storm because WE DON'T LIKE QUEERS! Pass a repeal in a special session. The fact so many people keep calling it a "trans" bill just goes to show the right wing lies that flow though the internet.

LGBT folks = blacks in the 1960s

>>5924378

No, not at all. LGBT folks won but will keep on whining until everyone hates them who once were their allies. Look at how they treated that poor bitch Kim Davis. If a gay or trans person had received a tenth of her monstering there would have been uproar.

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>>5924446
>LGBT folks won

Expect for the fact you can legally be fired for being gay in like half the country.

>Look at how they treated that poor bitch Kim Davis.

She was an awful bitch who broke the law and should have been removed from office.

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FYI somebody is posting screen captures of various chan posts on other message boards and it appears he is trying to garner support for some fictitious organization known as the Forced Euthanasia Lobby. This post he is referencing was made in a /co/ SheZow thread.

People move too much these days to have un-uniform laws for such matters.

Crossing through multiple jurisdictions in a single day. All that could have different laws regarding your plumbing and which bathroom is legal.

Just get make all public toilets unisex.

>>5916054
> fill up your business with catty queers and unstable trannies
> business fails
good job

>>5913874
yes let the homophobic Syrians harass and assault our gay population
good job guys

>>5922321
>That "infringement" term changes with the times, man.
Well, "infringement" was never clearly defined. Arguably, ANY law on guns is infringement, but you could just as easily argue that as long as there is SOME arm that you can legally own (even if it's something utterly useless with a muzzle velocity of one inch per second), it's not being infringed.

>>5923984
gr8 b8 m8

>>5924446
> If a gay or trans person had received a tenth of her monstering there would have been uproar.
Yes, and they would deserve it if they had attempted to obstruct federal law and deny people the right to get married.

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>mfw republicans control the congress
>mfw a libtard thinks the presidency matters
>mfw obongo cot cucked for 8 years by republicans and couldnt pass any laws
>mfw local politics matter more than national