/femgen/ - Russia Edition

>>5870393
Oh god. That slut looks so sexy.I would wrap her legs around my thighs and pump her hole all night.
>her

>>5870393
>tfw femgen makes its own threads now and i don't have to support it anymore

first for getting called 'cute' by a (male) stranger for the first time and feeling your heart flutter up into your throat with joy

>>5870550
Gaaaay.
No wonder they call you bitch boys. I think even trannies are respected more.

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Hey, so what mones should I take?

Someone recommended this but I dont really want tits, wont mind them though unless they are big.

Also is the dosage good for a fem guy? or are there different mones I should be taking?

>100mg spironolactone, 2mg progynova, every 12 hours , with water, after at least a light meal

>>5870393
wow that's some aesthetic shit

>>5870558
Gay as fuck senpai and I love it, I don't think I really accepted myself until that moment, it made this all so real. God I can't stop grinning now X_X

>>5870560
that's the standard, senpai, it's what most of us do here.
there's weirder experimental shit a few people are just starting out trying atm, literally in the last month, but nobody's reported back yet on their success.

>tfw you are a cute boy
Is there any better feel, senpai?

>>5870582
the dosages arent too high tough?

>tfw Max Landis husbando

Kill me.

>>5870596
>tough
>>5870596
>arent
oh wow I cant spell today

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Hello femgen :)

>>5870630
hi qt

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>>5870558
>>5870412
pls no bully

>>5870707
S A U C E

bdsm is fun

>>5870558
it's like what if you took tumblr girls and added crippling depression and a penis

>>5870769
'Sokay, you just give us some drugs and we'll liven right up.

>>5870550
>tfw never been called cute

>>5870863
>Tfw you get called cute all the time, but no one has ever asked you out.

>>5870857
who that qt?

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>>5870857
femgen boy needs tiny tits to be representative. They all use pills to stay qt.

>>5870857
accurate

>>5870630
you are ~1year on skittles, right?

>>5871269
No 6 months so far.

what did femgen eat today?
i had a banana, a peach, blueberries, part of a turkey sandwich and some of the big gay quinoa meme salad i made for my mom

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>>5871408
Mug of chocolate milk, a donut, french fries with breaded beef, fried potato balls with couple sausages and another mug of chocolate milk

>>5871451
dank

>>5871408
Oats bar + banana
Grilled chicken + banana
Grilled chicken + corn + rice + bowl of fruit

>>5871408

Breakfast:
Four eggs, quarter pound pork chop with onions and mushrooms, and a bowl of oatmeal

Lunch:
Spaghetti with chili w/ half pound of ground beef and bowl of Brussels sprouts

Dinner:
Home made buffalo calzone with chicken, blue cheese dressing, cheese, and mushrooms inside, onion flakes on the outside, egg brushed on, with celery.

Snack:
Just had a bowl of popcorn with butter.

>>5871518
damn, post belly

>>5871408
chicken and waffles, half a sausage, half a tub of ben & jerry's chocolate fudge brownie ice cream. i'm down on calories but up on diabetes

>>5871408
ramen, a greek yogurt, and an egg wrap thing with some dumplings. total like 700 cal

>>5871408
Greek yogurt, half an orange, some cheese and crackers, some pork, rice, asparagus, a piece of chocolate, a mini powdered-sugar donut, half an egg salad sandwich, and some chips and salsa.

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Will estrogen make me cuter?

>>5871982
no, it will make you faggoter

>>5871982
nope. estrogen is a really weak hormone and unless you look cute before you will never look cute

>>5872047
Damn that's harsh. I think he's cute.

>>5872049
i wasn't specifically talking about him, i was talking about estrogen effects in general

>>5872049
>tfw no bf/gf

>>5872047
I was definitely not cute before E but everyone seems to think so now.

I honestly think it's a crapshoot.

>>5872121
yeah this

Is it better to wax or shave penis, balls, and ass?

>tfw can't self med with titty skittles in my country without going full trans

I just want to be more androgynous and cute, this is lame.

>shave facial hair
>grows back super fast and have shadow

>pluck facial hair
>get ingrown hair and redness

Damn it, I need fucking laser. And yes, I do exfoliate, moisturize and all that shit.

>>5871982
ur cute enough

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>>5872158
Just cut them off.

>>5872182
If you're self medding, you can do whatever you want. No one has to know.

>>5872197
Same here :(
I'm afraid of doing anything permanent because I might want to grow a beard at some point in the future.

>>5872217
I mean that I can't purchase meds in Canada that I know of because it's illegal to do so within Canada and I'm pretty sure customs would confiscate it if I ordered from an American shipper.

>>5872182
Screw them and DYI.

The state shouldn't have any right to override your sense of self and tell you have to be a woman just because you like looking fem.
>>5872224
They can't track them and estrogen isn't against the controlled substance act so feds wouldn't care.

It can't be a controlled substance because they use estrogen and far more dangerous xenoestrogens as stuff for OTC contraceptives.

>>5872224
QHI supposedly ships to Canada. Ask in >>5850738 if you want more options.

>>5872182
I don't think you understand what "self-med" means

>>5872247
Yeah I totally misphrased that. I meant that the only route to getting mones here was through a therapist but apparently I might be wrong.

>>5872224
>>5872182
Honestly though, I used to be a leftist as a kid but all of these Canadian and European horror stories drive home just how disastrous those systems are for patient autonomy and dignity.

Not only do you have a bunch of under educated old men deciding what you are, but they also are out to stamp out individualism and turn everyone into some caricatures they think people should be.

For all it's flaws, at least the American system doesn't do that.

How do I get more fem /femgen/? I've just turned 19 and I feel like I'm running out of time to start hrt. How do I get qt af?

>>5872304
it's really only informed consent that doesn't though. i guess it's just that they have a bit less respect for personal freedoms (not like murrica is that great on that regard, but still). i think IC is a good idea and really I don't understand why it's moral for drugs of any kind to even be illegal or restricted

>>5872224
Where in Canada?

There's more and more IC options available. Unless you live in some unpopulated shithole you will probably be able to find a doctor who will give you a prescription. You don't "have to be trans" in Canada to get HRT you just have to have dysphoria

>>5872373
>Unless you live in some unpopulated shithole

Yeah that definitely applies. The prairies are hell.

will hrt make your face more feminine?

I know it wont change bone structure and shit.

>>5870707
what is this 2006 scene shit

>>5872444
it may cause your face fat to make you look more feminine

1. Waxing genital area
2. Bleaching teeth
3. Enema often
4. Nails trimmed
5. Skin moisturized
6. Flavored Chapstick
7. Girly Shampoos
8. Curling Eyelashes

>how to fem

>>5872603
>waxing genital area
You mean your entire body? How do I get my body hair to stop growing?

>>5872635

that's simply not a healthy hope to have, sorry anon. if you're lucky you will be basically hairless anyway

>>5872603
>no eyebrows plucked and trimmed

C'mon.

Thinspire me, lovelies.

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>>5872732

what are decent cheap tank tops (?) to wear as a buffer for boyboobs?

So, what happens if I'm taking mones after a few years idgaf about being infertile I just dont want boobs

anyone have experience with this?

how big will boobs get on hrt?

>>5872994
use SERMs to kill your tits
otherwise they'll become noticeable i guarantee it

>>5873001
>SERMs
can you explain this to me?

I was planning on taking the mones in this post >>5870560 at the same dosage, should I take something else if I need to take serms? *which I dont even know what that is

>>5873009
Raloxifene is one SERM that has been discussed here before. I think sal from mtfg uses it, so you could go there and ask her about it next time she's on.

>>5873009
bodybuilder chemicals that fight steroids

basically take tamoxifen or raloxifene alongside an anti-androgen. you'll lose your testosterone, you'll get some of the benefits of estrogen. you won't get osteo or tits because of the SERM.

>>5873015
why would a mtf want to kill her boobs?

>>5873016
so I dont need to take estrogen then?

>>5873018
I think she's into bodybuilding or something. Idk, you'll have to ask her.

>>5873025
she has a family history of breast cancer iirc

>>5873024
you shouldn't, yeah

>>5873016
cool thanks for the info, any idea what the dosage should be?

>>5873031
going to try it when they arrive, not sure yet.

>someone told me today I have decent androgynous looks and if I were trans I could pull it off well because I have feminine bone structure

I've never considered any of this before and I came to this board to find a thread like this one to ask you guys what to do. I don't know shit about sexuality and identification, and this has me really confused. I could use some help.

>>5872603
>3. Enema often
That's really fucking dumb and you're going to fuck yourself up doing that.

I have a friend who has fallen to /mtfg/. I only just recently put together that he's been going there for over a year now. He's really far gone and is already preparing for HRT. I know for a fact 100% that he is going to regret this soon, especially since I know the person he is dating has been pressuring him into it for a very long time.

How do I save him?

>>5873124
try not to concern yourself so much with what other people do with their bodies, i know you may think you know what's best for your friend but they've likely put a lot of thought into this
just chill and be happy :3

>>5873127
Yeah no, he's depressed as hell and has even directly admitted he only wants to do it because it makes him feel wanted. That's not okay. He won't even go to a therapist for it and instead just wants to order the shit online.

Have you ever been flirted with? I'm kinda insecure about how I look. I have a bf who's really sexually experienced (he was my first) and he says I'm very cute, but I don't really know how accurate that is and it makes me feel a little sad that I've never actually been hit on or anything irl.

>>5873130
Is your friend transitioning or just doing HRT?

>>5873127
Thats dumb, he wants to help, how he will be feeling if this will break his friends life and he could help, but didnt do anything?
He will be blaming himself for the rest of his life.

>>5873136
Not entirely sure. I know he's at least doing HRT, but I'm pretty sure he'd end up going all the way.

>>5873150
I know you already mentioned it, but you should continue to try to convince your friend to see a therapist. Please don't play therapist with your friend though. Leave that to a professional.

>>5871408
3 slices of pizza

>>5871982
almost certainly

Post your asses

>>5872326
start hrt

>>5872635
HRT will give you the body hair of a girl at 6-12 months
i.e. blonder, thinner, softer, less visible, more like peach fuzz
it's pretty cute

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>>5873130
>>5873124

/femgen/'s face when

>>5871408
>three mealsquares
>one container of pico de gallo salsa
>instant pad thai

>>5873295
>one container of pico de gallo salsa
what

>instant pad thai
you can get instant pad thai?

damn

>>5871408
1200 kcal soylent

>>5873314
it was this, i just microwaved it
http://eatingatjoes.com/2014/09/11/trader-joes-true-thai-vegetable-pad-thai/

the salsa is like a good premade tomato salad. i bought 10 containers and will probably eat one a day

>>5871408
oatmeal, chips, and spaghetti

>>5871408
Two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.

>>5873389
You must be one ugly busta.

>>5871408
bulemia

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>>5873124
We use HRT here too though. Just like calling ourselves boys, acting like ones and being andro boys socially.

So really we've fallen too, just in a different way. We might not be the right people to ask.

>>5873424
Since when? Last time I was here, anyone who used HRT was bullied out of here instantly by everyone.

>>5873427
Not really, last straw poll showed over a third take hrt and another third want it. It's probably more if we count spiro and stuff alone. Guess we just value practicality over ideals now.

Seriously though, your body turns to shit without some sort of chemical protection. It's an inevitable part about how normal men age, just look at croker turning into a fat piece of hairy shit. Rigging the dice to keep your body the way it's always been and stay fem doesn't make you trans.

>>5873427
Fortunately most of those people left. It's more of a "you can do what you want with your body" crowd now.

>>5873427
/mtfgen/ invaded /femgen/ and now 6 days a week these threads are just about hrt.

if someone posts pics, they're either from /mtfgen/ or asking if they should be in /mtfgen/.

>>5873427
Unfortunately, the degenerate trannys of the board come post in here often because no one loves them.

>>5873427
>2016
>not wanting cute little chestbumps
senpai I got complimented on them the other day by someone who resolutely still sees me as a guy and it felt fucking amazing, would recommend

>>5873498
this is what clinical insanity looks like

>go look at /mtfg/
DEAR GOD THEY ARE ALL FUCKING HIDEOUS AND YET THEY ARE STILL TELLING EACH OTHER THEY ARE PRETTY

>>5873490
Uh, so you're now preaching that everyone has to become a tranny?

You know, some people would rather just stay fem. That doesn't make anyone trans.
Stop trying to convert people.

>>5873534
That's what the passing threads are for. Mtfg is more of a support group than anything.

>>5873534
The funny thing is this is true for the inside of them too, not just the outside

>>5873567
Yeah I noticed that too. All of them seem like narcissistic sluts.

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Jesus how many calories do u guys eat? I usually don't eat breakfast and just have a small lunch, but for dinner I always stuff myselfs. How do you go a whole day eating just three peaches and a cup of salsa? That seems unhealthy?

>>5873582
Adderall.

>>5873582
exercise more you fat slob

>>5873587

I gotta get me a scrip.. That stuff is amazing.

>>5873538
Nowhere in my post is that alluded to, anon. I know it's easy to defend yourself against arguments that you made up in order to validate your convictions, but I'd appreciate it if you'd stop and think a little before you post.

>>5873582
welcome to poor mental health general. eating disorders are the mildest of personal issues you'll find ITT

>>5873599
It's pretty easy to get a prescription. Just say you can't focus. If your doctor is being a tight ass about it, just go to another one.

PROTIPS: Make sure they don't give you extended release, it's fucking awful. Also be as stingy with it as possible. If you use it too much, you will quickly start needing higher and higher doses to get anywhere near the same effect. You'll end up fucking yourself up, becoming incredibly dependent on it, and probably addicted. Take cooldown periods regularly.

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>>5873615

How exactly is femgen poor mental health? Realizing I want to milk my cuteness and be fem made me happier than i have been in years.. And I was already pretty content!

Wassup cute boys, thought I'd dump this poll here, got some interesting results so far.

http://strawpoll.me/7088439
http://strawpoll.me/7088439
http://strawpoll.me/7088439

(cis here means as in being comfortable with your birth sex, e.g. mtf -> cis would be mtf to cis male)

>>5873668
Yup. We learn to accept and love ourselves but life can be hard enough without cranking up the difficulty setting.

>>5873668
>MtF -> Cis (NO)
>11 votes
lel, I knew trannys were pretending

>>5873738
At least two of those votes were dumbfucks who voted it thinking it meant becoming a cis girl, then read my post again and replied "oh whoops". All that spiro really does affect intelligence like that study says, it would seem.

>>5873745
>At least two of those votes were dumbfucks who voted it thinking it meant becoming a cis girl
But that is what it means, isn't it? If trannies were really trans, they would wish they were born as whatever fucking sex they want.

>>5873791
there are only two genders

>>5873668
>correct
>going from bi master race to straight
Choose one.

>>5873809
There's only two sexes. Gender doesn't exist.

>>5873860
just because it's a social construct doesnt mean it doesnt exist, anon

>>5873615
So long as we agree that hrt/looking fem doesn't nessecarily make you trans.

Who /top half of the face can be kinda cute but bottom half is nightmare fuel/ here

>>5874114
Opposite problem here. The bottom of my face is fine, but I have a fivehead. Together we can join forces and make one pretty boy and one freak of nature.

>>5874128
oh my forehead is huge too, but there's hair to cover so it's not a big deal unless it's windy or something
i have a really ugly chin and an unshaveable beard so that's pretty bad, if there's bad light is looks like a 50 years old's jaw

>>5873074
oh nobody ever replied to you.

if you're gay it's really neat. if you wanna be a girl, it's really neat. otherwise, not so much.

>>5874160
>TFW gay and want to look like a girl but don't want to be a girl

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>tfw haven't checked this thread in months
Am I still ugly senpai?
Also aside from the facial hair from being lazy the past few days, do I really have a strong jawline or was that just a hon being angry at me?

>>5874173
too real, anon

>>5874174
good lips and eyes, you're cute, don't worry about it.

>>5874174
you look like a barista
grow your hair long and take that thing off your head

>>5874181
Thanks!

>>5874185
Don't worry, I am growing my hair long, and the hat is just because it's cold at work.

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>tfw gonna grow my hair long and straighten it oh lawd

>>5874214
Be sure to take care of it or you'll end up a greasy basement dweller

>>5874214
Try hair oil. it will help a lot.

>>5873791
it means to birth sex
if you wouldn't take the pill you really aren't that dysphoric tbqh

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>>5871408
30mg of kiddy coke

>>5870974
so so so beautiful

I-I think I got wolf-whistled today while I was riding my bike

>>5875320
ugh why do I never get flirted with or anything

>>5875346
no boyboobs?
admittedly i am probably making it up, but i do have long hair so maybe the speed distorted everything

>>5875365
no boyboobs

i look more 'young boy'-ish than i look feminine

>>5875365

This one time when I was like 17, I was walking around one night and this truck of guys yelled like "woo!" or something.

>>5874007
hrt makes you trans.

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Femboys I need advice. There's this super cute guy in my class and I'm pretty sure we're both into each other. But I do take a non negligible amount of hrt to look feminine. I have chest bumps and very wide hips, the hips he must be okay with because I do show those but the chest bumps would be a surprise.

How do I explain to him that I take hrt? Do I just hope he's bisexual? Claim it's gyno? I don't really look like a regular male anymore so a strictly gay man would find me a turn off. And my stupid penis only gets semi hard so I couldn't top. There's so many variables, I'm confused ;_;

>>5875643
tell him you take hrt. own up to it or let it go.

if youre that ashamed of it, maybe you shouldnt be doing it in the first place.

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femgen's opinion on visceratio from chaturbate?

>>5875655
It's not so much as I'm ashamed of it so much as I don't know if he'd be into it. I guess there is maybe a little shame, the average boy doesn't exactly pump themselves full of estrogen to look more appealing to stronger men. Hard not to feel a bit of shame at that.

>>5875695
the skype group was talking about him yesterday a lot.

he's got good looks, he's clearly mentally unstable, and he;'s making a lot of money.

>>5875643
just call it an intersex disorder and be done with it

>>5875695

I am jealous of man-girl's tiny knees.
My huge knees like ape man monster - not sexy to me but useful in hiding among forestry like big white oak.

>>5875727
is being insecure about knees a new meme?

>>5875727
same
my knees are those of an alpha male tbhon

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>>5875795
Not that anon but my knees are gross af
I think the rest is okay?

>>5875823
your knees look like knees, my goodness you people are insane

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>>5875795

No!
Behold its loathsome visage!
The foul knee of subhuman ape-lord!

>>5875823

At least you aren't stuck with these, you are like girly princess.

>>5875832

True but dude's got some calves

>>5875643

Yeah explain it. Also explain to me exactly how HRT makes your hips wider, plz thx

>>5875823
hot

>>5875883
dude my hip bones shot out a few months in, I'm fit to bear children now

What would a femgen meetup be like?

Has one ever happened?

>>5875909

How, and how much? How do the bones change? Do they physically move apart, increase in size or what? An inch more, or what?

Sorry for the questions just thinking about it.

>>5875951
physically move apart
i'm too thin to have fat grow there but i can tell it would

>>5875883
A .80 waist/hip ratio is wide for a guy right? They certainly look wide to me.

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>>5875643
Trick them into thinking ur a qt reverse trap

>>5875643
Please tell me exactly what you are taking and how much

>>5876145
200mg spiro and 4mg estradial

>>5875655
i feel like the shame isn't inherent to taking it, it's only about the reaction others might have

>>5876177
That's tranny dose deep in transition you know

>>5876215
No it isn't. It's a conservative dose, they're all taking double that in estrogen in the mtf threads or something.

>>5876215
Nah that's my current dose

>>5876215
I take that over 24 hours, isn't that safe?

>>5876223
It depends on your genetics. That's what my endo prescribed, and I still looked like a young guy. Others might hit boymode fail at that point.

if you want to be a fem guy you shouldnt even take estrogen just take spiro and tamoxifen or something

>>5876289
>spiro and tamoxifen
Maybe, tamoxifen hasn't been tested well as far as the fem stuff goes.

Has anybody here used it? Does it work well?

>>5876291
yes but to combat gyno and breast cancer, not to make you qt

>>5876329
Only care about the qt part. If it's useless on that then I'll just stick to estrogen.

>>5875989
this is only possible if you are still very young (pre 18) and your bones growth plates havent sealed
they seal for girls much earlier too

>>5876335
sure, SERMs (tamox or raloxifene) are only for those who dont want any boobs

>>5876358
No boobs is fine but have the people who used it gotten the other nice benefits of estrogen it is it really just a glorified bone strength thing?

>>5876346
There's got to be some lee way there though, or perhaps my puberty was just extremely weak? I should have kept more detailed logs but it is a certainty that my hips have widened and I started hrt at 19.

>>5876366
basically it blocks estro receptors in breasts and uterus
if you are taking estro and dont care about breasts you dont need it, estrogen will take care of your bones

>>5876388
So if youre taking only an AA but no E tamoxifen stops or slows problems from lack of sex mone?

>>5876388
More like I want to know if I could switch out my estrogen for it and keep the baby fat, small waist and nice skin and hair?

>>5876378
well if you are sure its not just fem fat distribution, typically 19 would be too late to change bones structure but people are different

>>5876399
yes, it helps, SERMs used by post menopause women or men who are taking AAs against cancer

I dont know how much it affect feminization, its never used for that, why would you switch to it unless you want to avoid boobs? in that case you should probably cycle SERM/estrogen

>>5876378
i never really had a full puberty

>>5876413
>More like I want to know if I could switch out my estrogen for it and keep the baby fat, small waist and nice skin and hair?
yes you could for the most part

>>5876470
>cycle SERM/estrogen
would that really work?

>>5876564
some people are supposedly trying it
be the guinea pig

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>>5876576
>be the guinea pig
I'd rather not I've put off on ordering mones because I just want something that make me look fem without tits.

>>5876584
you dont grow boobs any quickly and taking 20mg tamox for a ~month will remove budding nipples that you'd get in maybe ~5 months

>>5876555
>>5876470
Have b cup boyboobs will they be absorbed back into my body and shrink in an okay way or will they just sag and get gross? Cause the later would just disgust guys and I'd rather just stick with the gyno and at least have them stay perky if they're going to be part of my body.

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>>5876584

do you want to borrow my genetics

>>5876696
sure, but you can keep your shit taste

>>5876696
you have the torso if a powerlifter

>>5876703

do you have megamilk genetics
can we trade

>>5876705

I do lift, i guess

>>5876584
Post pics

>>5876705
that's what a femboy is supposed to look like. not a fan of the style but fantastic aesthetics otherwise.

/femgen/'s new ideal is only a girl with a penis because they're stuck in "I want to be a girl but I don't want to be a girl" purgatory.

>>5876692
>b cup
Unless its mostly fat I'd wager they wont go away without a fight.
Skin tightens up when you lose tissue under.

>>5876725

Whys everyone always gotta bag on my lazy grunging

>>5876764
because it's not '98 anymore, anon and, honestly, it looks like (and I hate saying this when it comes to fashion) you're trying too hard.

it's really cute but it doesn't feel... authentic.

>>5876775

Yeah, well you're dumb.

Go fuck a mongoose, you quimbo.

>>5876775

It's just a black tank top, red flannel, jeans and tights. I just like how it looks and i feel like it suits my personality.
I dunno, man, that doesn't real feel like something i can touch.

>>5876790

Will you pay for it?

>>5876785
it's the glasses, piercings, socks and bracelet that do it. and the flannel around the waist.

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Anyone else know that sickening feeling of, I assume, being far more excessive and "Dionysian" than you expected yourself to be, due to how amazing, truly amazing and lifechanging it feels to be truly submissive, for the first time?

Like, how long am I going to go on like this, being so addicted to cock pulsing in my ass? How long will it be until I can't talk without a lisp and I can't walk without rocking my hips? And then what afterward?

>>5876741
Think it's mostly nonfat. Can I get somebody to try they srem plan first. If this thing backfires I don't want to be the one to get hurt

>>5876790
>>5876801
do it yourself fag. if you want the potential benefits, you have to take the potential risks

>>5876794
Pay u to be our qt lab mouse?

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>>5876798

>>5876803
Nah, I'd rather just dress in a way to hide the boobs and accept the benefits of moans than try an untested medicine and risk giving up the benefits and ending up with sagging rather than a flat chest. Srem could be great and give me everything I want but I don't feel like gambling.

Find someone else more desperate to be normal.

>>5876805

Yes, thanks.
And I'll test all sorts of drugs you'd like to try!

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>Boyfriend gets kinkier, starts handing out spankings more regularly
>Starts fingering me more often
>Unable to pass his desk without getting some form of sekuhara or another
>Already had ton of bondage / SM toys
>Mentions that hes looking at chastity toys for me to wear
>Totally secretly into it but never mentioned it to him before

So either hes looking at all my porn history or truly i am blessed.

>>5876831

Hot.

>>5876822
what re the benefits of mones that cannot be accomplished through diet, exercise and proper healthcare that don't turn you into a tranny?

>>5876822
>>newfag here, why are they called "moans"?

>>5876846

Supposedly it thickens scalp hair and prevents/fights hair loss.

>>5872217
lol I might get them removed, thanks anon! :D

>>5876846

Butt, thighs, face
girly smell
less body hair, feminine hair patterns
soft skin, nicer hair
losing boy smell, gaining girl smell
female orgasm

>>5876855

hormones
whore moans

>>5876696
kill yourself you disgusting freak

>>5876696
You look like the possum I hit with my car the other day

>>5876860
>Butt, thighs
exercise
>face
healthcare
>soft skin
healthcare
>nicer hair
healthcare
>female orgasm
don't need mones for that
>losing boy smell, gaining girl smell
unless you're talking about that guy who claims his cock smells like fish which I wouldn't call a perk, I don't really know what you mean. girls smell like shit after coming from the gym too. that's why both males and females use deodorant.

so, at the end of the day you have fat distribution and hair loss, which doesn't seem worth it. there are much easier ways to maintain body hair and I've yet to see anyone have noticeable changes to their hips that didn't start mones before 18.

What did you eat today, /femgen/?

>cereal
>granola bar
>chips and salsa
>soup with boiled eggs and veggies

>>5876881
don't forget wrinkles, you can only fight time for so long. testosterone is a bitch.

>>5876887
healthcare, anon. put on some fucking lotion

are you the same anon who seems to believe that women don't age?

>>5876881
>>5876846
You cheat time. The skin, hair, baby fat and svelte shape are nice but it's true that fat dist aside you could help the others by other methods. But without pills they're bound to ultimately fail and your body would always be getting more cavemanish and hairy. Meds let you keep your neoteny and androgyny and that in itself makes them worth it.

Granted I don't especially like having breasts so if something lets me keep the nice parts of the meds but get rid of the tits then I'm all for it.

>>5876903
>But without pills they're bound to ultimately fail and your body would always be getting more cavemanish and hairy

this just... isn't true, anon.

>>5876913
>this just... isn't true, anon.
plz explain

>>5876895

Men age worse earlier.

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>>5876913
It is for most guys. Pejic and the other Slavs were right to med and they owed their looks to that. Maybe tits and srs notwithstanding they have the right idea.

>>5876926
>Pejic
but thats a tranny

>>5876917
I don't really have to. All males don't turn into cavemen. Take care of yourself and you'll age gracefully.

>>5876934
Was a qt boy before they went for those surgeries. That's the relevant part.

>>5876939
no it was a closeted tranny

>>5876926
>It is for most guys
most guys aren't femboys, anon. did you stop to think before you posted that?

and you probably shouldn't use models who end up turning tranny to prove whatever point you're trying to make up.

>>5876943

Being transgender doesn't magically change how hormones affect your body and looks, though.

I know it may not be the correct board but
after years of trying to get my parents to understand im trans, i finally made it, my mom is willing to accept me and support me and help me with the basic like laser shaving, full body shaving, small face surgeries, hormones.
Many years ago this could had be the most happy day of my life and started everything as soon as possible.
But I have been repressing myself for so many years that now I hate the idea and everything trans relatered and I know I will just make a joke out of myself.

I guess I should keep with the trans story but just stay as a very feminine femboy.

>>5876985

take advantage of this situation. Do it, you will be happy.

>>5876987
im not 100% if i want to be trans, many years i thought that may be the cure to my severe depression, but now i see it as something disgusting and stupid

On the other side, I dont know if being an androgynous being is the best idea or the best for me.
Today a car with many people passed by my side and I heard them say "oh, I thought it was a girl". I was a bit happy Im still feminine and misgendered, but I would have rather not listen to that comment because they could realize Im a guy.

Anons, mones are about prolonging the fem life. They don't make it better, arguably worse because you'll have to put up with having tits. They make it easier to maintain and they keep you looking young. That's all there is to it.

>>5876985
take it slowly, find out what you like, do what makes you feel comfortable, seek professional counseling or at least a better support group than /femgen/

don't force anything. remember that it's all about you being healthy and happy.

>>5877019
>don't force anything. remember that it's all about you being healthy and happy.
Thanks anon. :)

Well, /femgen/ seems less cancerous than /mtfg/.
I guess I will start doing the things Im 100% sure I want

>>5877030
what steps are you taking right now?

also, post pics.

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>>5877030

Don't thank me!
Thank the bee!

>>5877032
I havent doubt a single second in my life about laser-shaving my face and a rhinoplasty

I would post pictures, but I dont like to post pictures when I share about my life, but you have probably saw me before or you will in some other thread

>>5877035
thanks bee

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>>5877043

You're beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
welcome!

>>5877047
that bee is cute
I was talking to my mom about how Im not feminine, like im pretty much an asshole to people, very mean, dark jokes, always makes fun of people and I swear a lot. Is it /femgen/ to be that way?

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just a friendly reminder lads

>>5877043
post pics

Can we exclude the
"Losers are constantly invading this thread to try and convince everyone that we're all secretly trannys. Don't fall for the tricks of those sad and miserable failures."
that someone added onto the OP in favor of something that isn't petty and retarded, like
"Lots of transsexuals come here to annoy us."
and also add something to answer the FAQ of "where can I find femboys"
such as
"Online, at EDM raves, or on Grindr in cities"
so the OP would look like this instead:
FAQ:
▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties. Lots of transsexuals come here to annoy us, though.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Where can I find femboys?
Online, at EDM raves, or on Grindr in cities for the most part.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.

▶Makeup: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860 and /r/MakeupAddiction
▶Skincare: https://reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki
▶Hair care: https://reddit.com/r/HaircareScience/wiki and /r/FancyFollicles
▶Skype: Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you.
▶Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1884476

sincerely the guy who wrote the last OP and re-read it to find out that it's been fucked with by faggots that can't spell properly

>>5877238

Man, I miss techno dance parties.

>>5877269
i'd go to them but i can get gay men to come to me in droves online anyway

>>5877286

I just wanna dance, but I gots no money now and everything here's expensive as fuck.

>>5877289
how do you dance properly to techno?

>>5877301

I don't give a fuck.
I'm improper.

>>5877327
I'm not being judgmental I just want to know how you go about dancing to techno and shit, I've never been able to and I feel like it's something I should know how to do if I'm a femboy

>>5877343

Oh.
Well, I'm not even a femboy. I'm like an acknowledging wannabe, I just dig the aesthetic. I'm a fruit brute. I pretty much just dance as obnoxiously as possible, incorporating as much of the rhythm section and melody into my movements as I can and breaking a bit on the unusual occasion that there's enough room on the floor and I'm not suffering some injury.

I imagine femboys would just wave their arms around over their head girlishly and kind of shake their hips. Also, they'd almost certainly be well tripping or rolling by that point, but if you're not too timid you could even do it without a bunch of drugs in you. Come to think of it, I'm not sure how many femboys I've seen actually dancing at these things. The closest may have been a semi-spiritualist nearly-nude dancer who incorporated bellydancing/traditional stuff and what looked like vogue techniques. And then maybe some kids doing the standard run-around-and-jump-up-and-down-early-on-before-it's-a-crowd thing.

>>5877353
fuck man

Brasil 10

>>5877353
godly lvl autism

>>5877382
old femgen cancer detected

>>5877382

Do you just follow me around, now?

>>5877389
literally never posted here tho
>>5877398
no you are just here

>>5877417

Well, pretend I'm not.

Hey guys, just noticed, though QHI doesn't list Bica in its catalogue, the text on the front page mentions it (along with a bunch of other stuff) and says even if it's not listed, they might have some in stock if you contact them.

>>5876831
I envy you so much

my last boyfriend wouldn't even touch me unless we were in bed. Like, I was freezing and still didnt put pants on, just so I could be touched. Nope

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>>5877428
you bet they can lad ;^)

>>5877498
Jesus christ those prices, looks like I'm not eating for the forseeable future...

>>5877507
just order off brandmedicines like a normal person

>>5876943
He told everyone in the media he was really just a boy and liked looking girly. Why not take him at face value?

As far as I'm concerned it's just a pretty boy unless they go and pay a doctor to cut up their nads or get silicone tits

>>5878073
>unless they go and pay a doctor to cut up their nads or get silicone tits

Are we just talking OG Andrej or did you miss the part where this happened?

>>5878108
Talking about Andrej before he did that. Everything he used to say back when a boy made so much sense.

>>5878118
For a tranny in denial.

Welp. Summer is starting here and my fem desires seem to be going away but not completely. I've been obsessed with growing my hair, shaving face and body, dressing more andro, etc lately, but today it is sunny and warm and it makes me happy and content and brings out my animalistic part. I don't care much about my hair now or my clothes or whatever, though I admit that I still look for a sense of aesthetics on it all.
I want to go around the mountains around town in dudeshorts and let the earth stick to my leg hair and feel the T flowing through my body and enjoy the sun and shit and not care at all about how people perceive my gender and be scruffy and careless, and cut my hair short so it's practical.
On the other hand a thing that is also highly aesthetic would be to continue being as andro as possible and get bica and wear girl clothes and enjoy it in a more calm manner while feeling no gender whatsoever. This one option reminds me of gentle breeze and grass rather than earth and animalistic behaviour.

I dunno what to do, it's like I got slight physical dysphoria towards both sides of the spectrum so I want both but it's not possible. HALP.

>>5878291
I'd go with what is natural. And its not like you are making a life choice to transition, I guess you can get on mild dose and see how it works and how you feel. If you need to stop your natural masculinization at all - maybe you dont.

I also used to cut my hair for the summer just for comfort and less heat and then grow back in cold season, but now Im keeping it.

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How do I meet femboys?

>>5878466
be one

>>5878466
Are you a guy or a girl?

>>5878466
I think im a femboy, and I havent meet any cute person in years, only ugly masc guys talk to me.

>>5878507
Guy
>>5878472
But I don't want to
>>5878524
Where would you draw the line between ugly and cute?

>>5878538
Sit by us in class and be protective of us.

>>5878538
>Where would you draw the line between ugly and cute?
Im attracted to androgynous people, so femboys, trans, not-too-feminine girls.
My mom keep asking me why I keep being such a little faggot, I will never get a girl to like me like this, and well she's right, nobody likes androgynous people in this city.

Anyways I would never say no if you invite me to a bar and you pay, actually Im going to one next week with a guy who likes me, but I dont like him at all, but its free alcohol.

>>5878556
>Im going to one next week with a guy who likes me, but I dont like him at all, but its free alcohol.
That's kinda shitty desu

>>5878578
Haha, yes I make it sound like shit, but I have know this guy for years and he started talking to me again once he found me posting on 4chan and asked me if Im gay. And now he moved to the same city as me so I told him we could hang out to concerts and stuff in a no-homo way

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>Call himself a femboy
>Doesn't even drive a girly car

How does it feel knowing that as long as youre fem you will never get laid with women?

>>5879813
kek

Women have gotten way more into me since growing my hair, taking care of my skin, nuking my facial hair and taking estrogen.

>>5879842
Would you actually want to do anything with them when letting them see all the weirdness about your body could very well disturb them?

>>5879813
there's no problem, trust me

>>5879879
of course there is, very few women like fem boys
im not talking fem as in >>5879781 but as in >>5870857

>>5879870
They seem to like it.

>>5879813
But I want big manly men not girls

>>5879902
>being gay

>>5879894
like the other guy said, women are more interested in me since becoming fem

>>5879930
post pic

>>5879936
>>5857427

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>>5879930
>Implying that girls are into boy-girl things that have tits

>>5879968
>no face

>>5879973
>implying they aren't

>>5879842
>>5879879
really? i don't believe you. although i've always been alone so i'm probably just ugly t b h

>>5879991
Pretty sure the vast majority of them aren't some weird subtype of bi

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can I be fem too

>>5880070
they are though

>>5880105
sure
hell, you kinda look like a dyke

>>5880116
Where the hell do you live?

>>5879781
>miata
>not girly as fuck
lol

>>5880117
nice, I'm a week into hrt so far

>>5880317
many girls like qt boys, doesnt matter where you live

>>5880458
are you even 18? your face is puffy af and I bet you never shaved

>>5880317
kek, dude, a bf who also has the soft qtness and boobs of the girls she's always making out with in clubs when she's drunk is a lot of girls' dream partner

source: I have had way more lewd attention from girls since starting hrt

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>>5880568
Them saying you're cute isn't the same thing as wanting to be with you though. For some reason there's a lot of weird old men who are asking me out, idk if I'm doing something wrong.

>>5880726
many girls like qt boys for looking at in a purely aesthetic manner

many girls like qt boys for romantic cute times and cuddling

many girls like qt boys for hair-pulling and pegging into the headboard

perhaps not the majority, but many, much more than you'd think

get the picture?

>>5880805
>not being a dominant qt

wooooooooow

>>5880572
Yeah, 19 in July

>>5880805
You're probably just more extroverted and willing to let people get close/see your body.

IDK why I'm bothering over this when IRL I'm still fussing over a straight crush when there's probably no chance that he'd ever want me that way.

>>5881006
>>5881006
new thread

>>5880726
my friends mom wanted to fug me

>>5880568
many is a copout word. it's an incredible niche.