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Previous thread >>5813495
>faye cut her hair
Faye go kill yourself
Someday...
why do i even post here ><
>>5815201
>girls can't have short hair
Reminder: if your voice doesn't pass, you don't pass.
>>5815202
>tfw u will never get married because u will never be good enough
>amass a collection of cute saya images to post
>im now going to have to find a new girl to post because that stubborn anon wont stop posting her
im pretty upset
>>5815205
Because you're cute.
>>5815202
Never ;~;
>>5815202
>>5815213
I want to believe ;_;
>you will never pass
>>5815211
I only do it to mess with you and also so Red knows that it is I that person who lives close to her. But fine I'll stop. Jerk.
>>5815216
No
There's no way I could get married, let alone hold a relationship
>>5815210
>follow your dreams edition
Best be changin that attitude, you got more than half a lifetime ahead of you yet.
>>5815213
Don't you be giving me that, the word you're looking for is "someday"
>>5815216
I believe, and I'll be damned if it doesn't happen in a church
>>5815220
Oui! :3
>>5815219
Saya Anon <333
take me for a date~
>>5815202
I like how this is actually a possibility for you but for the ones like me it honestly is something thats never going to happen.
>>5815220
if /co/ can't admit how good chip and dales rescue rangers, darkwing duck, and gargoyles were, then they're faggots
>>5815219
>>5815211
okay which one of you is emma and which is saya anon
I keep getting you two confused
>>5815222
You can do it anon. You might not see it now but you'll end up married to someone nice some day.
>>5815223
>I believe, and I'll be damned if it doesn't happen in a church
Catholic church or marriage is off desu
>>5815202
tfw I have multiple close partners that adore me in an open relationship and one girlfriend that plans on marrying me
>>5815219
>>5815214
see its even confusing her now silly, and gem
>>5815228
im emma
i can put trip back on when i post but id really rather just avatar
>>5815223
y-you're right, it's just been a bad night for me overall
one day it'll happen, and it'll happen when it's meant to with the person i'm meant to be with
>>5815235
>im emma
Oh cool, now I can stalk your posts here!
>>5815208
>>5815210
>>5815218
these feels. just let me die.
pick one
>>5815223
How about "we'll see"?
>>5815231
I dunno desu
Hey mtfg, how do i explain to a psychiatrist who isn't a gender specialist that i don't care about why I'm trans, and that knowing won't make me want to be male? I see her for other stuff, and i brought this up with her to explain why i want to see a specialist so i could get onto hrt, but now she wants to work out where my gender issues come from.
>>5815244
>tfw too ugly to ever have a partner
>tfw too manly to ever pass
>tfw too manly to ever bother having a life
>>5815226
Ricky? Is that you? ;_;
>>5815240
That's more like it. I'm sorry you're having a rough night, but in the big picture there really hasn't been enough time for this stuff to happen yet. Life has a way of just happening.
>>5815232
Poly seems hard, but I'm glad you've found something that seems to be working for you.
>>5815231
>tfw Scottish, English, protestant Irish and everyone in the family is Anglican
Gothic cathedral or bust!
>>5815247
I'll accept that ^^
: 3
>>5815245
none of them, I'm not AGP
>>5815235
Emma is mean.
>Tfw ate 2000 calories all in one meal and now can't eat for the rest of the day
>>5815253
wtf is wrong with your legs
>>5815251
lain, we have more in common than you think so i am biased but i think you are cute.
>>5815243
thats why i post with saya, so people know its me, plus shes qt
>>5815260
n-no! i just dont want people to get confused
>>5815245
Torn up between the boy in the red uh, thing, forgot what it's called with the buns, the maid, and the c@boi.
>>5815247
You're too young to give up already. You have plenty of time to meet the right person.
>>5815260
Emma is bae
>>5815252
>tfw Scottish, English, protestant Irish and everyone in the family is Anglican
Are we like, clones? Add some Polish into the mix and we're pretty similar
>>5815250
Tell her to respect your decision to seek help from a specialist and if she can't that you'll find a new one.
>>5815264
T-thanks anon.
I'm pretty gross and manly though.
>>5815263
She gained weight too quickly from HRT and the skin tore open.
>>5815250
tell her being transgender is who you are, and not something that happened to you, it's like asking to explain your sexuality issues that made you gay/straight
>>5815260
She's pretty much the worst
Ever have one of those days where it feels like nothing you do is right and all your friends hate you? Yeah...
>>5815276
I'm proud of myself for introducing /lgbt/ to this picture.
>>5815251
>too ugly to ever have a partner
i'm living proof that you're wrong
>>5815252
yeah that's true, and tbqh a lot of stuff has happened lately that, overall, give me some real hope for the future, at least when i'm not being depressive and hopeless about it all
and you'll make it happen too
>>5815276
every day except I only have one friend and she literally does hate me
>>5815202
>>5815216
http://strawpoll.me/6980158
>>5815280
Is your name pronounced 'beaks', 'becksy', or something else?
>>5815280
>i'm living proof that you're wrong
You are nowhere near as ugly as me and I also look like a man.
I'm like a fat Edgar.
>>5815276
All the time. It's just important to remind yourself it's not true and that you know that for a fact. Last night I felt horrifically lonely and like nobody cared and stuff, but reality is I have at least a couple friends who do. It's probably only a matter of time until I start dating someone again, too.
>>5815282
Suit for dom dress for sub desu. If there's no blatant role like that then both dresses!
>>5815269
I wouldn't give up
it's like how I think transition will fail, but I'm still gonna try.
>>5815282
I..have to wear a tux to marry my gf, she said dress=no marriage
>>5815290
Your transition wont fail cutiepie. I genuinely think you'll pass ez, you have a great starting point.
>>5815224
Location ?
:^)
>>5815286
>You are nowhere near as ugly as me and I also look like a man.
>I'm like a fat Edgar.
3/3 on lying
>>5815285
becks
>>5815293
She was talking to me nerd.
>>5815292
Maybe so
If that's the case I can't see it
>>5815274
love you too~
>>5815295
Oh, that makes sense. I feel silly now.
uhhh
which one is near me in DFW
;_; I can't tell these Sayas apart!
>>5815276
of course, like yesterday for insyance
I keep leaving the oven on by accident so the electric bill is pretty high and my roommate is pissed about it and it makes me feel like a retard but I have a really bad memory and I cant help it. ;w;
>>5815298
You already look really girly, it won't take much work to pass. I know you can't see it, but please try to, please believe me on this. You deserve some hope because it's gonna go well for you.
>>5815301
bexy is an acceptable alternative if you're feeling it, but i'm taken so it will have no effect on me ~
>>5815269
Not quite, I do have a wee bit of Swedish in there though. ^^
>tfw your great uncle didn't give a shit that you were a tranny, cared more that you were still going to church, and then took you to one of the two services he usually goes to on Sundays
>tfw awkward unpassing early transition tranny in the cathedral pews
;~;
>>5815280
Really, even with ups and downs, it's pretty safe to say that quality of life is going to trend upwards. Getting depressed sucks, but the big picture is pretty bright.
>>5815282
Whatever they want, although I want a dress ;_;
>>5815302
Me. Emma wont let me post Saya anymore because shes mean.
>>5815253
you're doing it wrong, faggot.
I'm 19>20 this year in july and im hoping to start HRT within the next like 3-4 months (going to sexual health clinic place in like a week and thats how long it takes here apparently)
is it too late for me, should I just end it all and try to pass as a femmy boy instead of a girl
>>5815310
You didn't get any shit from the other churchgoers did you? I'm glad he didn't give a shit, that's the attitude everyone should have.
I actually kinda want to start going to Church but then I'd have to deal with
>GOD DOESNT MAKE MISTAKES
Or at least I expect that.
Not sure how much of a believer I'd be anyway but it seems nice to have some decent rules to live by and believe there's a place to go after death
>>5815315
>Thanks ^^
Of course! I'm always around skype if you need on-demand support too!
>>5815311
Emma is a nice girl don't bully her!
>>5815320
I'm your age and many other posters are older than us, you'll be fine girl.
>>5815320
Fuck off.
1 month HRT here. Will my shoulders be a problem in passing in the future? They seem big.
>want friends
>try going to gay club to meet people
>awkardly shuffle around in the corner for 15 minutes
>leave
>back on 4chan
>>5815271
i think you are cute and you pass better than i do.
>>5815328
>on hrt
>still has a fucking happy trail growing
Fuck off.
>>5815328
asian = instant pass
>>5815232
>I have multiple close partners that adore me in an open relationship
>girlfriend that plans on marrying me
Holy shit you're a degenerate. I hate using the word "degenerate" but it perfectly suits you. Disgusting.
>>5815329
That's exactly what I expect when I try to go to the pride club whenever that is. I think it's this Firday...
>>5815328
You look pretty good in terms of body shape. Your shoulders arent THAT wide, your rib case seems kind of slender, you have a great waist.
>>5815331
Some of us have chest hair we have to shave.....
>>5815331
LOL. What's with you and saying fuck off to everyone who's younger than you here? Calm down.
>>5815302
Hey
>>5815330
I doubt you've seen a pic of me then.
>>5815341
delete this
>>5815328
you'll be fine from the looks of it
>>5815345
i got to see you in unsee once! i want to see you again.
>>5815337
Age is silly to worry about. People can pass at all ages and it's not like you can do anything about it anyway. Your alternative to starting despite your age is not transitioning and I don't think you want that, right?
>>5815334
are you calling that beautiful princess of a transgirl who is into bdsm and fury yiffying with her multiple partners of all sexes a degenerate?
>>5815341
This thread just started you moron.
>>5815339
I actually feel like my rib cage is really large, but thank you :^)
When will I fail boy mode already?
>>5815353
that threads different its a parallel thread
>>5815342
Fuck off.
>>5815349
Which one?
>>5815354
When you have boobs and longer hair and start dressing like a girl.
>>5815361
Oh yeah, I know that, but how many months does it usually take? Sometimes I feel like I'll never pass despite only bring on hormones for a month.
>>5815357
the front-on one where you weren't pulling a dumb face.
>feel like my nails are a little weird
>try to clip them into a more clean, pretty shape
>just keep making them worse
I should just get fake nails like my sister but honestly having long nails feels weird since I'm so used to them being short.
>>5815363
That's entirely up to the individual. Everyone's different when it comes to passing. You've got a good start so I don't think it'll take too long if you wanna risk just looking like a boyish girl.
>>5815341
hol up
so you is sayin
we wuz hons n shit?
like dude i refuse to post in your gay ass fucking memethread
>>5815363
I think it depends on the person. 1 month is nothing and I don't think anybody can give you a perfect answer
>>5815350
Grace you're so nice
I want to go to church with you
I've been thinking of going to a progressive denomination...I used to be a devout Catholic, was a choirboy
>>5815253
what kind of diaper is that
>>5815370
did you change your diet recently? The nutrients you're getting affect the thickness of your nails as they grow
how do I get my parents to use my name
like they'll try to use she but they don't even attempt to say Lauren
>>5815322
I passed at a glance, but not in when directly interacting, and my voice didn't pass. Just didn't sing hymns and didn't draw attention to myself. He introduced me to the bishop afterwards though. Instantly clocked, that was awkward, but oh well.
I know what you mean though, I've thought about actually going to church again as well, but it's hard to feel welcome. Even if I pass, it's kind of hard to be in a place that you know can't make up its mind as to if you're the spawn of Satan. The structure is nice though, as is the ceremony, sometimes I miss it a little.
>>5815370
I want to be a girly looking guy for now. I have a lot of relatives who live near me and I really don't want them to know. Only my immediate family and some close friends know that I'm transitioning, but how do I deal with transphobic relatives in the future?
my partner loves someone else
what do i do
im looking for my girlfriend have you seen her?
>>5815386
You go to bed Yume.
>>5815386
Break up, maybe murder, I don't fucking know. This isn't really the place to discuss your shitty love life, sorry familia.
>>5815378
tell them
remind them after the fact
guilt trip them if they refuse and they do care about you
>>5815387
Is it me?
>tfw it's meant to be cold now
>>5815386
this is my greatest fear
i have no solution
>>5815392
there you are! where have you been?
Hey ladies.
>>5815393
not until the start of april famicon
>>5815398
hey
>>5815375
Awwh, thank you, that means a lot to me to hear <3
I was never really big on religion growing up, I took it really seriously as a kid but my mom was in charge of my religious progression. As she started to slack off on it I started to care and believe less. Like, if my mom doesn't care about progressing me in the faith, how real can it all be? But I've had a weird change of heart recently. It might be nice to go back and get my confirmation and save my degenerate soul.
>>5815377
My diet is as crappy as always but I am gonna change it soon. Gonna eat healthier and exercise, I wanna lose a little bit of weight and be healthy!
What kinda stuff is gonna make them grow thicker? And is thicker a bad thing?
>>5815381
At least you weren't given any trouble there, I guess that's the bright side.
And yeah, I'm not sure how to convince someone who would believe god makes no mistakes that my soul was put in the wrong body. Of course maybe it was his plan that I go through this, but I'd be pushing my luck with that excuse.
>>5815382
You can try to convince your relatives to open up and change their mind but honestly you might end up losing them. It's kind of a sad reality of things I really wish wasn't so.
>>5815385
It would be nice to have something to believe in, feel like there's a god out there watching over me, maybe be able to do more good in the world. I dunno. I've been there a few times for relative's ceremonies and it was both nice and kind of scary. Sometimes it felt uplifting and then other times I listen to the choir rejoice about our coming cleansing in fire and I wonder to myself if I should really be there.
>>5815398
Hello
>>5815398
hiiii~
>>5815396
did I go somewhere?
>be closet
>tell mom i want to get laser hair removal
>you're a man and you should have facial hair
but dad has never had facial hair and he shaves every day and he hates to do it
>but its natural to have hair growing
then i have to keep shaving every day and hurting my skin?
>yes, because thats how god created men
I wish my mom wasnt insane and my dad wasnt such a homophobe, and any of both loved me.
>>5815406
>dont be closet
>>5815407
I'm pretty worn out but I'm really glad my school week is over. I don't really have any homework so I can finally relax this weekend without stressing about grades.
How are you doing?
>>5815385
I don't really know. The reason I originally lost what faith I had has been kind of fixed now, and I do still believe in some kind of higher power. Whether church is the way to feel closer to that or not, I don't know. It seemed to offer that when I was young, but I was also very involved in the church, and a very different person, so idk.
I guess it would be nice to have some sort of spirituality in my life again.
>>5815409
I have to be a closet until I finish college
>>5815411
I'm not bad I guess. I'm feeling a little guilty about eating ice cream and donuts so I think I will step up my game on the daily workout. :P What is it you're studying?
>>5815401
>It would be nice to have something to believe in
yeah
I'm actually a bit jealous of people who believe in God, that someone loves them and then when they die they will live in eternal bliss
but I wasn't really raised as anything so I am inclined to believe nothing like that, especially that when you die nothing happens. It's a depressing thought really.
>>5815414
That's a fair enough reason
>>5815415
get spring hair remover, rip hair out, have baby face, slowly kill some hair
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L3WZLLM?keywords=spring%20hair%20remover&psc=1&qid=1456990389&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1-spons
>>5815227
>gargoyles
>good
fuck you
>>5815406
Kill your mum.
Okay this is absurd, I slept 14 hours and then followed it up with waking up at 2 and barely sleeping 3 hours.
Tonight I'm trying to fix sleep schedules the same way I fucked them up that badly.
>>5815414
>I guess it would be nice to have some sort of spirituality in my life again.
Good luck. This can be a thing that takes a lifetime to figure out.
>>5815393
How is your grindr going Jormy?
>>5815431
she's the only person who cares about me, i would go crazy if i lose her
>>5815435
>cares about me
>thinks god created facial hair for men to grow
come out to her as a tranny and see if she still cares about you.
>>5815417
>ice cream and donuts
WORTH IT
But yeah same tomorrow I'm gonna start running, no excuses. I had some queso dip tonight that probably wasnt good for me, I need to go run off the shame.
>What is it you're studying?
Just taking a general education English class and then History of Western Civilizations after 1600 hundred this semester. I wanted to take it easy as I try to put my life together. There's no way I could handle more than those 2 right now with how crazy this year has been so far.
>>5815422
I've been an atheist the past few years and am normally really science-minded. There's no proof god exists or that there's any sort of after life or soul in our body. But I can suspend my disbelief, because that's not something you could really prove anyway, and there's a comfort in believing. Maybe it would be worth it to do so. Depends on if Red and I can find a progressive church that wouldn't throw us out.
>>5815432
>Good luck. This can be a thing that takes a lifetime to figure out.
One's spirituality is likely always going to be evolving as they live their life and I think that's totally fine. It's not something that needs to be entirely figured out, just something you can be at peace with.
>>5815396
you've abandoned me ;~;
>>5815227
All this stuff is old and predates the years of Disney being boring shows about terrible people.
>>5815428
please leave
>>5815439
hey babe
>>5815441
nobody likes you or your ugly cartoon show
>>5815437
complicated situation
she knows i want to be a girl, and we both know there is nothing i can do. She stills cares about me but she knows I will get killed if I transition, and I will kill myself if I dont.
>tfw no one will ever chase you
>>5815440
oh believe me the next cartoon the made was goof troop, and I didn't watch anything again until Star vs the forces of evil, thats like decades
>>5815428
i'm sorry you don't have taste, it sounds pretty crippling, but you can watch this cool youtube about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEE53i0wNNA
>>5815441
ily gem
can you cuck yume and let me be your gf
so does no one use the discord ever
>>5815438
Ahhhh I hate running. I guess I could run a bit though. If I have to. Dammit lol. English is ok. Kind of dry really. 1600s Western Civ sounds pretty interesting though. :)
>>5815448
>tfw no one will ever chase you
It's a good feel, chasers wouldn't respect me or the Lord.
>>5815401
The whole "god doesn't make mistakes" thing always confused me. If god never made mistakes, people wouldn't be born with severe handicaps, or other medical issues. I mean, the idea that God made me this way was kind of the original thing that pushed me away from religion.
On a related note, in retrospect the "faggy alter boy praying to god to make them a girl" thing should have been more of a red flag than it was to me ;~;
>>5815432
Thanks leri
Idk if I'll ever have it figured out, but being willing to explore it seems important right now.
>>5815456
But anon, the implication is that god intentionally made handicapped people miserable, because he's all-knowing, all-powerful, and an all-total-asshole.
>>5815445
hi sweetie <3
>>5815453
I've always been kinda good at running and I think it would be nice to have my sleep schedule corrected in the future so I can get up nice and early and go outside and run as the sun rises. Woah run on sentence.
>English is ok. Kind of dry really.
Definitely, it's really boring but sometimes I get interested and it's like
>wow that was so deep i feel so smart and intellectual now
>1600s Western Civ sounds pretty interesting though. :)
Yeah it's my favorite, it's just story time with a test or a paper once in a while.
>>5815456
There also wouldn't have been need for the 10 commandments and such because Humans would just never do bad things and there'd never be wars or catastrophes that kill innocent people.
>On a related note, in retrospect the "faggy alter boy praying to god to make them a girl" thing should have been more of a red flag than it was to me ;~;
>Hey Grace did you know gays go to hell
>suddenly afraid of liking guys or being gay in the slightest way for years
>>5815464
Yeah like with anything you cant take religion and expect it to fix everything or cure you of something. It's just a tool really to help you improve yourself.
>>5815438
I'm an atheist too, but I dunno if I could ever believe in God.
Though sometimes I think that deep down, I believe in some form of God or what not. I doubt I could ever actually be religious in some way, having never being raised that way.
>>5815456
I think the "God doesn't make mistakes" thing applies to handicapped people and the like as they are supposed to be born that way to make other people feel/be better.
That's what I heard it was at least, weird desu
>>5815469
>Though sometimes I think that deep down, I believe in some form of God or what not.
I've flip flopped between believing that and nothing at all. I wasn't sure if god existed the way religions preached it, but I thought maybe there really was a higher power that watches out for us and loves us.
my penis is soaked in precum and i dont know what to do. can anybody help?
sweet dreams
love y'all
>>5815478
Goodnight Red, I'm glad you had a fun night!
>>5815469
I don't believe in a god, but I seriously have to wonder if there's such a thing as metempsychosis.
Because I swear, I must've done something really nasty in a past life to wind up being reincarnated as a tranny.
I go to uni with an mtf. She isn't in my class and we've never met. How do I hit that?
NEVER forget that we have heathens among us. There is NO excuse for this sort of degeneracy in OUR general.
Hello everyone!
>>5815484
tell her you like her cock
>>5815484
How do you know they're MtF?
a) They don't pass
b) You found out from an external source
If a), why the fuck would you want to hit that? If b), why the fuck are you suddenly interested in her, just having discovered she's a trans?
Answer: You're chaser scum.
>>5815449
>didnt like goof troop bonkers or mighty ducks
into the trash.
>>5815483
It would be kinda neat if I were an evil dictator in my past life desu
>>5815484
Hitting people isn't okay anon!!
>>5815487
Hello friend!
>>5815460
>>5815469
And the implication of that as well is that god made me a male with the mind of a female on purpose. It was really hard to rationalise that while praising a supposedly loving and caring God that sent his son to wash away the sin of the world and etc. etc. A god that loving couldn't be that cruel, it made no sense.
>>5815466
;~;
That's the worst. Stuff like that engrained some pretty deep feelings of shame for anything that amounted to non-heteronormative cis-male thoughts.
>>5815493
How are you today?
>>5815490
>chaser scum
not all chasers are bad, please do not paint us with a broad brush
t. a good chaser
>>5815472
Yeah, in actuality I do hope there is some sort of afterlife
Like reincarnation, so I can relive life as a girl, or a heaven, though if it is like what it says in the bible, I'm going to hell.
>>5815483
yeah
maybe I was some African Warlord who genocides a couple of tribal villages
>>5815494
yeah that makes sense
I have a few Christian friends who try to rationalise it that God doesn't intervene with life at all, say with your birth, God has no part in that but he observes you and judges you.
late night music thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbgCtPsYIYQ
>>5815496
to be fair I would say most girls here have had awful experiences with chasers
>tfw stacked weed and 2cb last night
>woke up this morning remembering I have a blood test today
fug
>>5815490
Thanks for the tutorial
>>5815498
Eh, if the Bible's accurate, Hell's probably a really cool place. Far better than Heaven.
Maybe I've been playing too much Megaten.
>>5815494
I wouldn't let myself do or like girly stuff because that would be gay and I cannot be gay. I just can't be. It's gross and I'll go to hell. But then sometimes I'd be like, Y-yeah well boys can do that too and then do something effeminate.
>>5815495
I'm feeling pretty good tonight, I'm having a lot of fun talking to people right now. And how is yourself?
>>5815498
>Like reincarnation, so I can relive life as a girl,
That would be awesome
>a heaven, though if it is like what it says in the bible, I'm going to hell.
Oh yeah, I'm probably going there. I wonder what ring I'll end up in lol.
>>5815499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuFb2iRhM7M
Matt Shultz is such a cutiepie.
>>5815491
these happening back to back made me grow up faster then I should have
>>5815500
oh i know, but just want to remind them that there is that small minority of chasers who don't fetishize and don't care about genitals.
>>5815509
If that's the case, why are you a chaser in the first place? Why not just date women, and if you're (un)lucky enough to end up with a trans one, you'll be in a good position to accept them? Why single out trans women?
I mean, if you just admitted you were attracted to girls with a dick, I probably wouldn't care as much. As long as you treated them like a human being, and respected their limits.
>>5815466
Maybe you can put the two together and write a fantasy book at some point. :P Alright though, you and I will run in the morning. We just have to believe in each other!
>>5815514
i do date cis women. i'm attracted to cis women and trans women, but trans women moreso. and i do treat them like human beings and respect their limits. there still has to be chemistry and stuff, im not going to date a girl simply because she's trans. it's just a + in my book.
>>5815506
Yup, that sounds very familiar. So many opportunities to get to know myself better, ruined by that feeling of guilt. Then there was that bizarre guilt for wanting to be a girl, it wasn't explicitly a sin, but it seemed like it would be based on how "being gay is a sin".
Either way, I should be heading to bed, goodnight mtfg
>>5815524
That doesn't really sound like a chaser mindset. But I'm so confused. What makes someone who's trans a '+' in your book? Because I'm trans, and the idea of dating someone else who's trans is a massive '-'
>>5815527
nite nite
>>5815527
Bye bye
>>5815528
i dont know why im more attracted to trans women i just always have been pretty much since i started experiencing attraction
>>5815515
>Maybe you can put the two together and write a fantasy book at some point. :P
I actually really want to omg
Well not really write it I wanna learn how to do something visual and make my own comic or show or movie. But yeah creating my own fantasy story would be AWESOME!
>Alright though, you and I will run in the morning. We just have to believe in each other!
I should go to bed soon if I wanna do it in the morning. I need my sleep schedule to be fixed otherwise it's gonna be afternoon/evening! No matter what I'm still doing it, I'm not gonna give myself another day to push it off.
>>5815518
>Reincarnation would be great, dunno if I'm good enough person though
>tfw reincarnation is real but you ended up a rat
;_;
>In hell I'd end up in either Limbo at best (which wouldn't be too bad) or Anger (fucking T rage I swear)
What about lust? Maybe that would be kinda hot
>>5815527
I thought about wanting to be a girl back then but I was just such a confused kid I didn't really think so for dumb stuff. It would seep into my life more and more until I finally got dsyphoria and stuff later but thankfully it came after my homophobia phase. That made it slightly less difficult to deal with.
>Either way, I should be heading to bed, goodnight mtfg
Goodnight Elanna, sleep tight!
>>5815537
Nah
I'm not really lustful, hell I'm still a virgin
>>5815450
ty anon <3
and the cuck life is overrated desu
>>5815537
Awesome. Make sure you make me a character. Make me run. :P I'll run a bit extra for you tomorrow. Sweet dreams!
>>5815554
I reckon we all have a personal hell instead
for example, mine would be to turn into the most manly thing ever
>>5815553
shezow is the only one that really comes to mind unless you count that weird superhero with the transformation ring that I cant remember the name of
I think it's time for sleep, goodnight /mtfg/, I hope you all have a wonderful night or day.
>>5815558
I wonder what I should make you! And i will! Thank you!
>>5815559
Gosh I don't even wanna think about mine, it makes me sad just trying to ponder it.
>>5815559
That's this entire thread's personal hell.
A room where just by being inside it, your testosterone levels surge to high male ranges.
You cannot leave the room.
>>5815566
MAKE ME A MTF DEFENDING WHITE KNIGHT!!! >:D Goodnight. :3
>>5815566
It's not like that shit is real though *nervous laughter*
>>5815554
>>5815566
I went earlier this winter, but all the snow melted a couple weeks ago. It's back now, though.
Good night!
>>5815567
Nonononono
chasers want a gf?
>>5815565
SERA! she literally earns her fucking Valkyrie hood ._.
>>5815580
>>5815565
>Implying shezow is trans
>>5815579
yeah desu
>>5815587
please just let me have this one headcannon
>>5815597
he's a crossdresser at best
Okay, so I have an online friend who is trans and who I assume is taking hormones now. She also asked a mutual friend to use female pronouns now (I asked her about it when I noticed) and I started doing it as well.
ANYWAY, while I haven't been using male pronouns rather than just her name ever since I found out she has gender dysphoria, I'm pretty confused how to refer to her in casual conversation. I'm used to calling people bro and dude and senpai when talking with them but I feel that would be offensive now. I feel silly and way too formal if I can't call people something like that in a conversation though.
I can't think of alternatives but I figure people here might know, any ideas?
chicken and waffles for the third time this week, and starting my second pint of ice cream for the week... my BMI is 19 and i'm starting to wonder if i have cancer, my boobs stay the same size, i don't seem to put weight on. fuck i'm dying or something.
>>5815597
>“SheZow is not transgendered. He’s a boy, his gender never changes, he’s just trapped in a silly costume.”
>>5815599
just ask her if it bothers her? dude is pretty neutral
>>5815602
chances are you eat less than you think you do, try looking at portion size and actual calories you're eating, just cause you're eating junk doesnt mean you're eating a lot of it
>>5815609
Sounds like way too awkward of a conversation to have, asking about the pronouns was already bad. I pained over it for two seeks before asking.
>>5815464
>>goof troop
>ew
I'm unbelievably disappointed in you
>>5815607
yeah but what if hes secretely trans and just repressing it
what if wearing the costume so much makes him realize hes agp and wants to transition into a cute trap??
think about it
>>5815617
So Gem
You decided to avatar with Madoka now?
>>5815617
It's clearly non-canon... but I do like it as headcanon
>tfw trying to go to bed and you know Adri still hates you forever
>>5815621
>tfw faye and adri is the true pairing of this general
Sup bitches
I'm wading through the last 3 hours of night shift
Here's a pic of me being an ugly hon before I passed out last night
I got ma'amd for the first time in my life at a gas station earlier
How was your evening?
Any snack foods?
>>5815619
sometimes, but not always
do you think its more or less autistic than just posting steven universe?
>>5815624
>True pairing of this general
>Not one of tripXanon relationships
>>5815628
anonXanon is the purest form of love in my opinion
>>5815632
That's true, but with the number of trips in here an anonXanon relationship doesn't fit as well as the general's true pairing
>>5815626
Congrats on the passing!
My evening was uneventful. I ate graham crackers.
>>5815628
Sometimes, I wonder how many people on 4chan may have a crush on me and it's a bit scary...
>>5815627
Hell if I know, I don't even know the connotations behind Steven Universe. Just do what you want, girl
>>5815639
0 is scary
>>5815639
i doubt anyone
>>5815641
I like you anon
you're cool
>>5815627
Steven universe is a bad show designed to make lgbt tumblrites have something to latch on to
>>5815635
I was awkward, murmered thank you, and crabwalked out the back door... But hey
... Passing!... Kinda.. Not really ugh
>My snack..
>>5815645
you know me actually
but thanks ^^
>>5815648
Actually, if I could believe them, it would sound very nice... I'm not quite comfortable with people being in love with me.
>>5815653
I have a crush on your confidence
>>5815646
now thats the type of reaction I was expecting
never change /co/
>>5815652
I like you friend
you're the coolest
>>5815653
I'm madly in love with you.
>>5815655
Thanks :3
btw, why do people find Steven Universe autistic? I've never seen the show or heard anything about it except from you
what's up ?
>>5815663
Ofuq
>>5815602
>eating chicken and waffles forever
That sounds like heaven AND hell
>>5815663
Probably your T levels larry
>pretend to be a transgirl online
>no one questions your masculine way of speaking
>sub boys love you
Why didn't i think of this before.
>>5815663
that's my fetish.
>>5815668
yea tons of people in this thread do it
>>5815667
how would they even go up lmao ?
>>5815669
kek
>>5815670
Guilty-ish. I would rather be a woman, but I'm not about to throw away my life for it. The internet lets me escape real life, if only a little bit.
>>5815677
you'll get there in a year or two and then be mad at yourself when you didnt transition earlier
>>5815660
its a dumb belief thats perpetuated on /co/ by people who have never actually watched the show, mostly based off the different colors of the gems and the diversity in the show as a whole
but considering that all the gems are named and based off of actual gemstones and the show is set on a small touristy beach town so it makes sense anyways
theres only one character you could probably say is tumblr, but I cant really go into it without spoiling something huge- it makes sense though given probably the most interesting aspect of the lore
>>5815680
It's been this way since early high school, about 10 years ago. While I do have regrets, I think I made the right decision not to transition. Of the four trans people in my age group that I was aware of in my hometown, only one of them survived. His parents divorced because of it, and his dad doesn't talk to him anymore.
>>5815683
how is the show not influenced by tumblr though?
>tfw leg is sprained
>>5815683
Don't defend that shitty show. It's an autistic collage of lesbians (who are aliens so it makes it okay) taking care of some borderline obese kid made by artificial insemination.
>>5815672
stop im getting aroused
>>5815689
What happened to your leg?
>>5815702
Autism most likely.
>>5815689
because rebecca sugar run the show by everything that the tumblr fanbase says?? Idk
>>5815691
WOW what an original thought! That is a very well thought out and interesting counterpoint!
>>5815683
You really like Gems right? I guess I can see why you are attached to it
Estrogen boy coming through beep beep
Im not one of you guys im just a medicated homo, but i thought you'd know better. I heard that if you dont fap on hrt then your benis atrophies. I kept it going for months but right now its like seriously difficult, feels kinda numb and it's already an inch smaller and hard to keep 'up'
What are the tranny voodoo secrets to being able to fap
>>5815710
>inb4 perineum rubbies
oh wait, this isn't femgen.
>>5815709
yeah
I've always been fascinated by rocks and minerals growing up, so a society of sentient space rocks is really cool to me, thats what initially drew me to the show
>>5815707
WHERE IS THE REST OF SEASON 2
>>5815711
The closest thing i got to a suggestion that worked was humping a pillow but it made me feel dumb lol
I feel like half these suggestions are memes to make femgen look like they want to be grils
>>5815716
Everyone has a thing they like when they grow up
>>5815717
cartoon network is hiding it away like the jews they are for whp knows how long :(
Morning all. Im sorry for flipping out last night. I feel really guilty about it. Hope you're all doing well
>>5815720
/femgen takes fem&m's on their own accord.
When you dance with the Devil you dance until the music stops.
>>5815707
Hey you are the one liking a propaganda piece written by a Jew.
Friends from Spain managed to smuggle some drugs here, looks like I'm gonna have a crazy weekend :D
>>5815710
I dunno, mine definitely shrank but my girlfriend's hasn't... and in both our cases it's pretty easy to keep up with each other, not sure what her masturbation situation is but mine's pretty okay. I mean, it takes longer but it still happens
>>5815736
>I dunno, mine definitely shrank but my girlfriend's hasn't
>>5815727
Idk what you're saying? Should i just accept that you cant really stop the atrophy thing? My libido isnt really much anymore anyway i could probably live without fapping...
>>5815736
For me it just isnt sensitive anymore and i have to be super super into it for it to even feel good and even then if i get distracted it'll pass. Actually reaching orgasm is a serious task for me rn
>know these buritoes are objectively shit but they taste gr8 to me because I made it myself
cooking is fun desu
>>5815710
>repressed tranny
I've got some bad news senpai
>>5815738
I feel like with mine the sensitivity isn't less, just... different. Like, if I'm not doing anything it's not very sensitive, but if I'm notably turned on it's more sensitive than it used to be. It is harder for me to orgasm though, I think
>>5815744
Yeah yeah nice meme i havent heard that one 1000 times by trannies
Being trans is incredibly rare in the real world. Your circumstances are exceptional and you cant project it onto boys who dont have outright gender dysphoria
>>5815754
>boys
>>5815754
I mean I feel like a cis guy would be more distressed about his dick literally shrinking but you don't seem too torn up about it. How big are ur boobs?
>>5815710
Usually just fapping should keep it working, maybe it's telling you to become an estrogen boy with a bonus hole
>>5815754
So stop taking the fucking estrogen tranny-in-training.
>>5815767
Tbqh I think any person who idenitifies as male and starts growing boobs and doesn't freak the fuck out is kidding themselves but you do you senpai. Good luck, estrogen is pretty dope
>yfw gf thinks she isn't good enough for you.
>>5815772
"so stop".
>>5815772
I look and sound like a boy, i'm not trying to fool anybody, i just like looking fem as far as boys go. Is that really so bad? It makes me feel good about myself and my appearance and it's not up to you fags to judge me for that
>>5815769
Idk senpai its just not a big deal, at first i hated it but actually i dont mind them, they're cute
>tfw you start to pass
oh my god oh my god oh my god
What does everyone here do when its 5 am and you can't sleep? I kinda wish I just had someone to talk with or something to casually play or something.
>>5815783
I'm too dead inside to cry right now.
>>5815784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70jpRFdBcvE
>>5815783
Not everything i do has to reaffirm that i'm a boy
I expected a group for people that struggled with feelings of knowing their own gender when nobody else did wouldn't try to force the fact that i'm actually not a boy on me when i clearly know I am
>>5815789
So you're a boy who takes hrt and is posting in mtfg. So original.
>>5815789
save yourself from mtfg my friend
>>5815791
I was asking for advice that MTFs might know better, but then you all fucking mobbed me trying to convince me i'm one of you.
>>5815796
Feel free to leave. Everyone knows you wont though.
To hell with it, I'm going to buy myself a big pizza and eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Anyone who tries to stop me is getting cut, you hear??
>>5815796
Perineum stimulation is your best bet, at the same time as jerking off
Humping pillows and stuff isn't a meme senpai
The atrophy varies a lot from person to person
>>5815798
Certainly no reason to stay. Bye.
>>5815799
yum! what toppings are you getting?
>>5815796
Ignore the judgemental assholes. They're trying to make you as miserable as they are.
>>5815802
Bye Felicia.
>>5815796
Don't listen to them be a qt femboi for ever. If that's what you want. Good on you for figuring shit out and doing what makes you happy <3
Im terms of getting hard. I usually can't unless it's with someone else. And frequent use is the only thing that'll stop it.
>>5815799
yup pizza is quite cheap if you consider how many meals you can make out of it
>>5815798
Were you always this awful of a person, or did growing up in a broken household mold you into the person you are today?
>>5815798
diif anon, I'm just a femmy guy
after a year here, I can present full fem, but I'm not mtf
>>5815820
Same here. People are genuinely surprised when I start talking. I'm working on training my voice a little higher just to avoid the reaction every time.
Nothing makes me rage like reading a MtF general thread. So many of you are such terrible people.
Learn to treat other human beings with some respect, and maybe they will respect you back.
>>5815828
Fuck off you piece of shit. You don't need to go lecturing us.
>>5815828
You, I like you <3
>>5815824
I'm not the person you were talking to.
>>5815830
Femgen exists snowflake.
>>5815837
is this angie?
femgen is not about passing as fem
>>5815834
The fact that you included yourself in "So many of you" tells me what kind of person you are.
>>5815839
And mtfg is not about being a fem boy. Dont act surprised.
>>5815826
Made this thread to try and stem the hostility a bit. Please attempt to keep the bitching about what's mtf and what's femboy to femgen and mtfg please, two whole generals is enough space for this argument.
>>5815828
thats truscum for u
>a bunch of faggy boys acting like this is their place
Almost as worse as when this place turns into chasergen.
where the bitches at?
>>5815848
Post soles.
>>5815835
I like that you like me and that makes me like you too.
>>5815848
Who cares? All they have going for them is youth. And I'll still be a beautiful woman long after they've been through gay death.
>>5815854
You're funny CFH. I admire someone with a sense of humor and confidence.
>>5815852
Then it's settled we'll be married on the morrow. But only if you're a beautiful boy.
>>5815862
But Mirin, I thought you were mine and mine alone! How could you leave me for some other anon?
>>5815864
M? You can marry us too xx
>>5815864
I had a pretty uneventful day but thats ok getting ready for bed now, how are you doing?
>>5815874
Nah, I just typed something and this is what came out. It doesn't mean anything. My brother does metalwork, though. He could forge us swords for our wedding, because what kind of wedding doesn't have swords?
>>5815880
Ahhh you're making me want pizza so bad!
Does that lexi trap still post here?
>>5815882
Lame ones. I'll be azor ahai and you can be my nissa nissa
http://imgur.com/a/SKR7F
This is trappy who posts over on /fit/ a lot. I want to fuck her.
>>5815893
Hahaha the anime faces are excellent. But please go away, this isn't what mtfg is about.
>>5815893
looks middle eastern
>>5815882
It's sweet and filling and warm, why would you not want pizza?
>>5815904
Sorry I was busy... it might be sprained or something so I need to rest it
time for some classic tunes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yMYaInfz-k
>>5815893
How do I look like this
anyone with experinence with Cypro (Androcur) Depot (aka injections)?
or solid info - if its better than pills for mtf, quick google didnt help
>>5815919
Well for starters you don't fall for trolling on the 2nd most insecure board on the whole of 4chan.
It's just dumbass trolling roid monkeys.
>>5815919
Let's get that skinny together babe. You gotta keep me accountable because I'm disgusting
>>5815920
woah i didn't realise cypro was available as a depot injection.
my immediate thought is it avoid that initial first pass of your entire dose through the liver when taken orally.
cypro's effect on liver function is one of its biggest dangers and drawbacks, so to be taken as an injection immediately makes it a much better prospect IMO.
>>5815926
Good luck.
>>5815930
Amazing. Thank you <3
>>5815928
yep, better for the liver
the problem I read of is if you do standard infrequent/high-quantity injections your levels fluctuate too much
>>5815926
Same. Idk she has hips and a waist too so its probably a body type that's out of reach for me
>>5815932
You know I got your back Mc.
>>5815938
OH my goddddd look at those tiny shoulders. And long legs. And wide hips. How can she be skinny up top and thique down low. I need more of this in my life.
>>5815937
I think you'll be surprised when you lose weight and gain some back after. Plus you don't look like you have a particularly masculine structure so I bet you'll be stunning
>>5815938
Tfw you're super skinny but gave the bone structure of a nfl player
>>5815936
what dose and how frequently would you be taking it?
i'm still trying to get my head around how it's prepared.
so it says 300mg weekly, but it's sold in a 100mg/ml solution.
are the ampoules 3ml, containing the entire week's dose, or are they 1ml, requiring you break 3 ampoules open to prepare a week's dose?
if they were the latter, and if you were fine with more frequent injections, then you could stop the fluctuations.
i guess a lot of people would complain about having to inject every other day though. the only real benefit it would then give you is that it's taking the load off your liver, which is still a big deal, but it means you'd have to inject once every 2 or 3 days, say, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday, every week.
>>5815937
i luv u maddie
>>5815944
Oh come on Mc. It's the angle of the shot. As a tranny you can't be fooled by angles.
>>5815945
Post photo so I can tell you're full of it.
>>5815893
that's impressive
>>5815944
She has a very masculine structure
Her under bust is like 40"
>>5815948
I'm 130lbs with 18" shoulders
>>5815937
everytime u post i hug my pillows and pretend theyre you
>>5815951
This desu, I look like gaston
>>5815953
>>5815947
>pic
>>5815952
So you look like a wider skeleton. You would need to pack on a lot of muscles to play in NFL.
>>5815956
>wider skeleton
Majority of women at my height and weight aren't wide like.
>>5815951
Pic related
>>5815956
>those NFL players
>a lot of muscles
AHA
look at arvebrink's legs in comparison
>>5815754
>between 2 and 5 in 1000
>less rare than boys on the skittles
>>5815837
>The ones who aren't trying to be some super special label are the snowflakes
A million keks.
>>5815961
They are supposed to run, tackle and so on, not model for Instagram. For them function trumps form. Unlike that girl. Who used to be cute before she started roiding.
>>5815959
You work with what you are given anon.
>>5815960
You just need to get skinny. Let's do it. X
>>5815968
she still looks cuter than that reverse humunculus you posted. wtf is up with Goucher's waist?
that straight up-and-down man waist looks so weird with such thin arms and legs.
>>5815966
Do you have a game plan? Or is it just starving until binging?
What's the biggest width a neo vag can go up to? I'm dilating with a 40mm dilator but I wonder if I could go much wider.
>>5815975
Not her but the most useful thing to lose weight for me was a diet of stims and water.
>>5815968
>work with a masculine structure
>stick out like a sore thumb
Comedy gold
>>5815973
She's a professional athlete on top of her game.
Function over form.
>>5815977
Crack that bitch open with a Bad Dragon.
>>5815975
That was my plan. But I'm pretty much gonna live on soup. I love soup. And it means I can eat three times a day on 800 calories
>>5815981
sure, i'll concede, function over form, and she's more functional than sophie, but why'd you say
>Unlike that girl. Who used to be cute before she started roiding.
and go on to post... look, i'm sure there are some pro runners who don't look as weird as that. she legit looks like she's gone on a cut after a case of palumboism.
which may well be the case because if you think just because they're function over form that they're not on some sort of gear, you're having a giggle.
but yeah look here, compare this sprinter's built legs and narrow waist to your freak.
built legs are, y'know, kinda functional.
>>5815978
Ah the /fa diet.
>>5815980
So what's your alternative? Hide in your bedroom for the rest of your life?
>>5815987
Serious question - do you know anything about nutrition?
>>5815946
I've no personal experience with it
yep an ampule is 3 ml - 300 mg biweekly
breaking it to frequent smaller injection sound like lots of hassle
>>5816001
for all of its fluctuations, it'll probably be more effective anyway since that dose isn't getting lost in your liver and is actually making its way around your body. given how effective an AA cypro is already, i honestly don't see why you would have a problem with it.
good luck if you do!
>>5815997
>take SSRIs
>combat depression and kill appetite at the same time
>>5815202
That... please let it happen.
>>5816007
I got fat as fuck after starting. But I also comfort eat. So ssris made it even better to get to be a big fat disgusting pig mess.
>>5816010
I need more of these wedding anime girls
they're so cute
>>5816014
>But I also comfort eat.
iktf .-.
>>5816007
>take amphetamines
>combat the normal perception of time and kill appetite at the same time
>>5815992
You are missing the point. I posted Kara as an example of ruthless functionality over form - in her respective sport. Same as the girl you posted. She would be faster at relay and maybe up to 5K while Kara would dominate at longer distances (up to the marathon). Both of them would perform miserably in another sport.
As far as appearances go, looking like a starvation victim is about as unappealing as having thunder thighs or being a roid monkey. They are athletes who let their bodies be molded by their chosen activity.
>>5816017
What about real ones?
>>5816008
Before I leave here's a book you might find helpful. It's an easy read and very informative.
https://mega.nz/#!gI9GUbQA!BvbM5xUexYp-kvpEU9TAy69oguciyEwyPixUanxdU8g
>>5816025
The other one captures emotion though
>>5816028
Thanks so much I'll check it out later
>>5816030
>cant
duh I meant to say CAN, as different drugs of the same type work differently and depends on a person too
>>5816029
but I love to cook too x3
>>5816024
okay but why the put-down on female body-builders for putting form over some arbitrary function then, when it's as much their personal choice?
and i first contested you saying that NFL players needed muscle while posting players with less muscle mass than bodybuilders, so going and posting marathon runners was kinda missing the point too.
my bad about posting sprinters instead of marathon runners.
having looked marathon runners up, yeah, they do look like that, but again, personal taste. you forgive marathon runners' looks because "muh function" while taking a dig at bodybuilders for their looks, when marathon runners look even weirder (imo).
you're comparing apples to oranges.
>>5816030
Well for ssris if you already have a habitual method for serotonin, like comfort eating was for me, It went into overdrive when there was much less reabsorption.
But thats also an issue with moderation
>>5816035
Cook off then. And someone else can eat while we stare intently
>>5816042
sounds like a plan :3
I can't promise that I won't indulge on it too though.
>>5816025
>Fiancé when?
Grrr. I am not looking at this stuff until I at least have a solid prospect. It's just torture atm.
>>5815981
>Crack that bitch open with a Bad Dragon.
Sounds like not a bad idea, but I thought bad dragon dildos were mainly for bums?
>>5816062
>tfw had a fiance
>>5816067
>>5816062
>>5816067
You need this hug.
>>5816067
>>5816075
Still engaged. She supports transition. Role in relationship hasn't changed since starting. When I try to she says she doesn't want to be treated like the man. Maybe I can't handle this. Maybe I need to be with a man to be happy. I'm already almost totally attracted to men now. I've fucked up both our lives now.
I really do need a hug
>get out of shower
>decide to look my body over in the mirror
>realize that I now have a round shapely butt instead of a guy but
Hrt is truly amazing
>>5816079
But, you're two women. Why should either of you be 'the man'? What does that role entail?
I'm really sorry to hear that your relationship and sexuality are at odds.
>>5816087
We've been together for a long time. Back before I went over compensating macho. So there's some habits we've both got into.
It hurts so fucking much. I love her. She's wonderful. Perfect. Beautiful. But I don't know if I can do this.
>>5816079
My ex is exclusively sexually attracted to men, despite trying to have multiple other girlfriends while we were dating
>>5816090
There's no real help I can give you all the way through the Internet, but I do believe that if you're emotionally honest - if you let yourself be vulnerable - you'll be able to get her to understand what you need. It sounds like she isn't clearly aware how much the patterns you've both fallen into are hurting you. If either of you don't know how critically important change is, it probably won't happen.
I really hope the two of you can work through this.
>>5816104
>is it ok if I hang out with this girl I'm romantically attracted to?
>no, we established this would not be an open relationship
>do you mind if I . . .
>yes I mind
>I'm sorry, I can't be with you any more, I'm not sexually attracted to women
Or something like that
>>5816114
Thank you. Really. I'm just scared because a lot of her worries from when i started transitioning are happening.
Plus I'm less sexually attracted to her. We don't really have sex anymore. And if we do I can't orgasm. I don't like penetrating at all. And she needs it to be satisfied sexually. There's no resentment or bad blood between us. We both see the growing incompatibilities and are trying to hang on and hope that we can. It's all my fault I should have just stayed as a guy. I'm fucking up her life so bad. Right now I figure my only options are to stop, or to end it.
>>5816128
I still don't understand even with context that's nuts
i jerked off to tranny porn for the first time and I don't even feel gay
>>5816142
have you tried strap-ons maybe?
I mean, she's attracted to women right, so that shouldn't really matter?
you should talk to her about your feelings though.
>>5816142
Yeah well they're also the one who proposed so it's even dumber
>>5816150
It's more the act of thrusting and whatnot. And being dominant. I know I need to talk to her. I'm just scared about what will happen. Because on top of it I've supported her education. So she's set for life now. And I have no usable degree. I'm pretty worthless tbhon
>>5816155
Wat............... Pic related
>>5816128
I kind of get this, but now I'm mad at your ex-fiancée. That sounds terrible.
>>5816142
You're not to blame for being trans, and not transitioning wouldn't have improved your situation; you'd just wind up resenting this woman you clearly love, even now that your sexual compatibility is way down.
If she needs a man, and you need a man, there may not be much left to say. I'm sorry that you're in that situation, Mirin.
>>5816162
Im trying desperately hard not to burst into tears here now because I'm in work. Thank you. You're really sweet. Maybe I'll see if someone wants to talk to me on irc
>>5816168
Definitely do that. We should never have to deal with these feelings alone.
I feel sick and my head hurts.
>>5816195
maybe your skull has dislodged and your brain is falling out where you got ffs
>>5816254
Okay Kayler
Are we dead
>>5816295
pretty much
>>5816295
Staahp. I wish. Post hair
>>5816310
Hi J!!
>catch reflection of self in laptop screen
I need a new face and body
>>5816325
iktf
Ban glossy laptop screens now! And smartphone screens, the little fuckers.
> order from QHI isn't here yet.
I think maybe, if they don't get me my CPA by next week, I'm going to have a panic attack. Please, please deliver on time.
>>5816313
Hey friendu, how are you?
>>5816325
Maddie if weren't so pretty I'd slap you for being silly but If I touched your face I'd melt. So stop being silly.
>>5816310
Hair
>>5816349
Oddish. Come on. Seriously. Ive got it bad for your hair. I need my fix.
>>5816359
How bad are we talking?
>>5816359
This is a little weird but, ok, if you say so
[Picture of ramen noodles here]
>>5816372
OH real bad. Trainspotting withdrawal Hallucinating dead babies on the ceiling bad
>>5816379
Im frothing at the gash
>tfw taking finasteride and spiro now
please take away my body hair
>>5816390
This is silly. Here.
>>5816410
Isnt finasteride also an aa
How does that shit work
Is it worth taking spiro just by itself if it's all I've got??
It's better than nothing
>>5816410
>tfw no body hair thanks to genetics
Feels good mane
>>5816418
It will at least stop the damage.
>>5816410
It doesn't work that way.
>>5816413
>Isnt finasteride also an aa
>How does that shit work
5α-reductase inhibitor. it inhibits the 5α-reductase enzyme responsible for converting DHT, ergo no DHT, which is by far the most powerful androgen when it comes to hair follicles and most things I believe, except muscle mass. DHT is the most evil thing that could ever be in our poor bodies.
If your other anti-androgens eg spiro, are doing an effective job of lowering your testosterone, you shouldn't need finasteride.
but if your spiro is still leaving you with more test than a natal female, that's a higher proportion being converted into DHT than you would see in a natal female.
basically if you take finasteride with spiro, you're admitting spiro is a shit-tier AA and needs some help lol.
>>5816418
remember if you use an AA long term without giving your body some sex hormones, estrogens or androgens, you're at risk of loss of bone mineral density and eventual osteoporosis. not a big deal in the long term but if you're only taking spiro on its own for several months before adding estrogen, it's no biggie.
>>5816424
i found photographs of me back before i was shaving my body hair off. i never realised just how dense my chest hair was. it's really weird to see.
>>5816437
I thought testosterone had ruined my life, but this is a whole other level.
>>5816437
i wanna stroke it... :^)
>>5816440
Spiro works fine for me. Confirmed quality aa
>>5816410
>tfw only on fin
if my levels are good, that means that it's fine right? i'm like the only one i know of that soley takes fin.
>>5816437
>tfw brother and grandfather are worse than that
i have no idea how the fucki i avoided that.
>>5816440
The only body hair I ever had was light leg hair below the knee, armpits, crotch and a very light trail on my stomach
>>5816443
Testosterone never "ruined" anything
>>5816444
Get a hairy bf.
>>5816449
Give it time pleb.
>>5816457
Are you mexican? Or significantly native american? Because same.
>>5816449
if you only take fin without getting on anything else that suppresses testosterone, you're fine for now, but make sure you never run out of it. going even 2 weeks without it will see a surge of DHT that could really damage your hairline among other things.
>>5816457
for me, terminal hair all over my lower body (ie legs, ass etc), an even mat of terminal hair on my chest, terminal hair in the snail trail region but in a band of about 2 inches, fading to vellous hair further out on my belly. terminal hair on my fore-arms, vellous hair on my upper arms and shoulders. fml i am going to need a LOT of electrolysis and laser hair removal.
>>5816458
>Get a hairy bf.
i'm definitely open to that yes.
>>5816463
I'm part Native American
>>5816470
My god :/
>>5816458
It's different for boys than girls, Anon.
>>5816476
my dad is a literal (figurative) gorilla. consolation though, my sister is blonde and has had leg hair since she was 7
>>5816483
A girl you ain't.
>>5816488
Ouch, right in the social acceptance.
>>5816488
I'm a girl
>>5816496
Nuh-uh.
>>5816507
Pic related, it's me
>>5816507
>maybe if I keep at it I can change a trans' mind
What are you doing
>>5816513
What are YOU doing
>>5816495
I just don't want to see you hurt by unrealistic expectations.
>>5816513
Fuck that's nasty.
>>5816515
Funposting. What are you doing?
>>5816513
are you sure you're a doctorate student?
>>5816496
I'm a boy
>>5816530
Why
>>5816513
Her legs look like parsnips.
pls mtfg i want to wear leggings
Is there a thong where the actual string that goes between your buttcheeks isn't made of elastic? The stretchy elastic 99% of thongs are made of doesn't hold my penis in place at all and they make it hard to tuck.
I hate wearing 3-4 pairs of thongs to tuck just to wear leggings. >_< Girls panties are made for comfort not tucking
>>5816547
Then get SRS. Girl panties are made for girls. You know, those people that have vaginas?
>>5816547
There are some things are simply not monet to be worn if you are not a girl.
Like leggings or uggs.
It simply isn't done.
>>5815282
>http://strawpoll.me/6980158
where is the what ever the fuck they want option?
>>5816571
>I look fabulous
Gay men usually are.
Sorry just couldn't resist.
>>5816571
Well if you're on the waiting list, I guess you'll just have to w a i t
im really happy that im a girl and not a guy even if I did have to transition
does anyone else relate to this
>>5816583
>implying gender is real
>>5816533
Because I don't do anything to transition, so I don't deserve to be a girl
>>5816580
I guess I'll just have to go into stores irl and find thongs and see which ones aren't stretchy. I hate shopping offline. It's so much work.
>>5816585
>Implying eyes are real
>>5816590
I buy all my girl undies at Wallmart at 3am when no one is around to see my hon face
>>5816596
>implying my love for you isn't real
>>5816583
also this isn't because i think being a girl is easier or something its because men are clearly inferior
Time to get drunk birches. See you on the other side
>>5816603
>implying I wouldn't up and leave my life just to be held in your ams one time <3
>>5816627
That's right I said it. You're all trees.
>tfw they didn't notice you were drinking in work
If girls weren't better now, why would they make the new ghostbusters all girls? No one wants to see sexist men from the 80s make key master jokes about their dicks anymore.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JINqHA7xywE
>>5816609
are you a gay femme male?
>tfw second cup of coffee while listening to ichiko aoba in my pajamas and writing in my journal
could today get any comfier?
>>5816649
Bitch you need a hot water bottle and a cat in your life.
>>5816649
420 blaze it whore
>>5816642
Yes I'm gay, I have a gf
Yes I'm fem
Yes I'm a male, I was born with xy genes
>>5816669
>Yes I'm gay, I have a gf
you're a straight man
>Yes I'm fem
who is femme
>Yes I'm a male, I was born with xy genes
you are right
>>5816649
Hey she's pretty good, I might make an anti Asian road rage cd of her for my gf
>>5816671
>not knowing the difference between male and man
>>5816609
>But it's true
>>5816621
>except that's wrong
lol
>>5816604
male reproductive capacity is worth next to nothing. the ability to carry children is what makes those women who can do so, more valuable to our species than anyone who cannot, male, trans, intersex, carrying heritable conditions, congenitally deformed or otherwise unable to carry children.
anyone who cannot carry children is expendable.
men, as the largest group of expendable people, have been subject to the most selective pressure to prove their worth otherwise. those that historically bred were those that excelled in high risk and physically exerting tasks, removing workload from those who could carry children.
fertile, natal women are born with inherent worth.
everyone else has to prove their worth.
including us.
so umm... the inherent entitlement endemic among fertile natal women, particularly ther sjw radfem kind, is really grating to me and pisses me off. that they expect to be handed everything on a plate and never have to take responsibility, just because they were born with a womb.
they don't realise how lucky they got.
on the other hand, any fertile, natal woman who doesn't need to prove her worth, but still does so, becoming successful in traditionally male fields of work without complaining about glass ceilings or demanding positive discrimination, those are my role models and my inspiration.
hence why Mulan is my favourite disney "princess".
>>5816670
Yessssssss you got it lady. Let's get silly and listen to King gizzard and the lizard wizard <3
>>5816676
you're a male femme man
>>5816678
i forgot to mention how the selective pressure placed on males to prove their worth is what drove sexual dimorphism and led to males becoming deformed (think brow bossing and chisel jaws).
>>5816678
Everyone knows the non-hon MtF is the purest lifeform in existence
>>5816586
Thats silly. You're my moms age and you look arguably more cis than her
>>5816681
Is this conversion therapy? Conversion therapy doesn't work on trans people :( I can't really stop being a girl, I can only hide it
>>5816691
Post hair
>>5816680
I've only heard them once - I'll have to listen to them again soon. Bring snacks k?
>>5816692
Don't feed it
>>5816694
Here
hi y'all~
>>5816692
you're not a trans girl, you're a shitty scum chaser who ridicules the ones who don't pass
>>5816689
no, pure is displaying no sex characteristics whatsoever, which isn't naturally possible.
sex characteristics, whatever they may be, deform the purest human form one way or the other.
since primary sex characteristics are set pre-natally, everyone is inherently deformed from birth.
if you started shooting a kid up with GnRH antagonists before hitting puberty, and made them go through puberty with SARMs and SERMs instead, they could probably achieve closest to the pure human form.
i think you'd struggle to ethically justify that though.
you don't want to be pure. who here doesn't want wide, child-bearing hips, or full breasts? what men don't feel more like men with a carpet of chest hair, a full beard and shredded muscles?
http://www.isna.org/faq/not_eradicating_gender
this does a pretty neat job of explaining why the "x is a social construct" people are wrong.
>>5816712
Faye is trans
>>5816692
Do you really feel like you should keep hiding that you're a girl? I don't want to be rude, but I'm confused that you're still doing that.
>>5816710
Silly hillbilly. Speak like a real person.
>>5816636
looks pretty mediocre desu
Morning mtfg!
>>5816710
Hay gurl~
>>5816728
My hair looks the same today as it did a couple weeks ago.
I am gonna try to dye it tonight though.
>>5816728
pure = no sex characteristics because sex characteristics are inherently a means of specialising the default human form to be able to better perform one set of tasks or another.
i don't quite get how the word "purity" applies to your use, as purity does not inherently equal archetypy, much less so desirability.
>>5816726
Afternoon
>>5816730
Hi how are you today
P E N I S
>>5816748
you can use mine if you want
>>5816748
hi elanna
>>5816748
Where tho? WHERE!?
>>5816718
I'm just older and had hints go bad a couple times, I'd recommend younger girls just transition if I'm a liberal area, but I just don't have the peer group or support to do it comfortably
>>5816748
fuck off autist
>>5816712
>tfw shitty chaser suck
>>5816767
Not much! Just waiting for pic related to arrive and relaxing today! How about you~?
>>5816752
E-edmonton?
>>5816753
Hi anon how's it going?
>>5816754
Not here sadly, although I slept with a lighting technician in a dream last night after showing him my midi controller ;~;
>>5816758
ralph-pootawn-no.jpg
>>5816760
It's not my meme, I just coopted it. ;~;
How's it going grace?
>>5816776
No. ;_:
My penis is still where you left it a couple weeks a go.
>>5816775
Those are adorable desu
the truth will come out when the archive is back online faye
>>5816756
Oh. That does make a lot of sense. I really hope your peer group and support network improve in quality. At least you're an inspiration to fledgling femboys.
>>5816776
>It's not my meme, I just coopted it. ;~;
O-oh, well, I'm still waiting on a precum soaked penis ;_;
>How's it going grace?
Pretty good today! I don't have much college work to worry about so I think I'm gonna play games with Kari and look for some girlclothes to order too, maybe get an outfit that really works with the shoes
>>5816786
Arent they? Idk when I'm gonna actually wear them because right now it's all snowy and wet outside and I don't wanna ruin them if I can avoid it
>>5816796
Lose weight and get a job
What happened to Cheska and Sophie? They stopped posting again.
>>5816796
Why doesn't your roommate know how to do that already? I could probably use some more sleep, too, honestly. Mmmmmaybe we should take nap together non-platonically ;;3;;;333333
>>5816804
Waiting would probably be best. A pair that cute needs extra care and lots of flaunting in the spring/summer
Hey mtfg, lose my number.
>>5816819
cheska needs to lose weight too
>>5816826
>>5816835
lolll it's a fat retarded chink
>>5816825
RIP adri
#adrididnothingwrong
Faye is a backstabbing psychotic bully who is nice to your face but talks shit to you as anon
>>5816835
>>5816852
Trip on faye
>>5816819
why would they post here when they're busy now?
Yall are some feisty bitches
I miss Kayla
Bullyanons pls go
>at work
>theres like no work to do and theres like fifty people here trying to do all of it
>i dont know anyone
>my job rn is basically to talk to people to figure out what needs to be done
I want to quit. I don't know any of these people and I'm just expected to go talk to them all. I feel like throwing up.
>>5816822
mmm maybe but idk who u r o.o
>>5816867
forreal, all the trips here say kayla is the one who causes drama, but in reality she's the only one who keeps it real and keeps all the trips in check
>>5816862
Trip on faye
>>5816874
no kayla and the anons that pop up with her are what really destroy the thread
>>5816869
neck yourself harold
>>5816874
Shut the fuck up kayla
>>5816869
its probably cheska hating on herself as usual
>>5816775
Those are rad! I'm just omw to uni to finish a paper desu.
>>5816875
delete your trip code
#adrididnothingwrong
>>5816878
Where did you find that name?
>>5816881
I think cheska and sophie are busy right now, no?
>>5816886
ree
>>5816890
You don't know how to write and I feel sorry for whoever has to mark your paper.
>>5816896
If you have a Facebook account linked to anyone's Facebook account who is trans, it takes about two seconds to find anyone on here
>>5816896
i appreciate that even though they are busy with school and work and camming and eachother, she still has the time to shit on herself on /mtfg/
>>5816904
lol who the hell still uses facebook?
So I got my Eng. Lang. Results back :/
I got a C and a D in exams plus an A* and an A for controlled assessments. Somehow it averages out to a C overall.
I need a B to take the courses I want to take in college so now I have to resit both :/
>>5816905
I don't understand all the hate Kayla gets, if she was pretty you wouldn't say shit about her.
new thread
Sugar Daddies edition pls
>>5816904
time to purge
>>5816906
the hero we need
>>5816914
Put your trip on elliot
>>5816910
Sympathy pls :/
>>5816909
Old people, people in foreign countries, deployed soldiers because the dod limits your web activity, localy owned businesses and older friends that use messenger, every ftm I know, every married person I know.
I think i have legitimate social anxiety. I should see a therapist again.
>>5816914
Kayla is ugly on the inside. No one really gives a shit what she looks like outside. Any time she's here the conversation has to be about her, and she requires constant attention, be it negative or otherwise. She is incapable of talking to anyone about any topic more than two logical steps away from talking about herself.
>>5816914
No, she'd still get shit on for all the things she's shit on for.
And let's correct a misunderstanding. Kayla is pretty. She's still got improvements to make, but almost all of those are in terms of outlook and behaviour. She has great legs and ass, a passable face, and sufficiently large breasts to balance out her upper body. The outcry of "coneboobs" is ridiculous; they're less than two years old. They're still filling out.