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READ THE OP

ITT: we post, discuss and rate husbandos and waifus.

Old: >>5742621

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>>5760604
>new thread maker
I don't like change.
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>>5760637
Sorry, anon, I hate cowboys
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>>5760604
is that the member with a voice like a dying cat

>>5760650
sacrilege
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>>5760650
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>>5760663
yes.
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>>5760680

she looks like this chick i was friends with as a kid... i had a huge fucking crush on her mom when i was 5-9
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>>5760671
Speaking of husbandos...
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We Maths rock now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AciDXNjNNI4

>>5760724

That was a pretty good best of the worst, they need to do more Bronson movies.
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My one true waifu...
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>Post your waifus & husbandos

Takeru is a cute!
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husbando edition best edition
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mai husbando...
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>>5760976
Yo, if you bag Smith then tell Ross I want him.
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I only have an embarrassing, pleb-tier celebrity obsession, but, then again, I'm embarrassed about everything
>tfw landlord "forgets" to give you 24 hours notice and you wake up to workmen coming into your manchild-cave and looking at and commenting on all your posters and shit
I fucking hate emojis but this one is pretty accurately mfw
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>>5760976
idk who this is but that's fucking adorable, I love camping moe

>>5761124
post them, anon, we all have embarrassing pleb-teir celebrity obsessions, it's a fact of life
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>>5761124

eh i don't have any celebrity obsessions... but how embarassing could they be?
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>>5761136

not everyone... i'm not obsessed with celebrities, some are attractive others aren't but eh...
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Do you believe in Jesus or not?
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>>5761276

nah... i was raised catholic, but i actually hate all abrahamic faiths... in addition to not believing in any of that...
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>>5761276
i'm agnostic but it does seem fairly likely that a nice bloke called jesus christ did exist about 2000 years ago
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>>5760992
Ross has gotten crazy hot over the past couple of years. It was like some switch flipped and he went from potatoface to sexy overnight.

>>5761124
Post it...

>>5761276
Believe that he existed? idk. Probably, but I don't believe he was the son of god or anything.
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>tfw you do your best at being the man of the house while being the physically smallest person in the household
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There is only one true waifu
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>>5761315

matthew 10 (particularly from verse 34 and on) doesn't exactly make him seem particularly nice...
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>>5761458
I'd say you're in sync, but knowing Kevin..
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>>5761462
well yeah, anyone claiming to be the son of god is probably going to be at least a bit mental
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>>5761512

lol fair point, but i'm just saying the nice guy jesus image is bullshit... it's like how mother teresa was an awful cunt, but most people don't realize that cuz it isn't as widely talked about as the "good" things about her...
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>>5761479
>but knowing Kevin

Don't talk shit about my waifu m8. Kevin is pure.

Also it's a shame he's straight but such is the life of a gay man. 99% of the guys you find attractive will be straight.
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>>5761697
I'm sure plenty of straight guys can be persuaded.
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>>5761718
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>>5761842
>be pre t pleb
>get tired of looking like 2010 era justin bieber
>i-i know what all those passing guides say, but if I just get a mid fade and make sure my head shape is square i'll pass
>no pass
>will be like this for months until i get back to longer lengths on the sides again

help me familia
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>>5762294
whenever i fuck up my hair, which i inevitably do whenever i get a haircut, i just wear a beanie hat like so until it grows into something resembling decency

be careful not to get one too long and floppy, that's a gateway to the lesbian appearance. get one that's incredibly generic, dull, flat to the head and makes you look as much like a burglar as possible
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Has anyone transitioned in such a way that they had a mostly neutral presentation and kept it like that until they were consistently read as male?

I've heard of plenty of MTFs do it and I like that approach, but it seems like FTMs start off already trying to pass, and I've already been there and it was exhausting. My chest is too big and my jaw is way too weak to pull that off.

>>5762372
>that's a gateway to the lesbian appearance
oh well fuck

not that anon but I've always liked my beanies like that and that's something I was never conscious of.
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>>5762384
well obviously it'll vary depending on the person, what helps one person pass might not for another

and it doesn't help that whenever i see someone wear the long floppy version it makes them look like a complete twatend, regardless of gender, but that's just my personal onion
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>>5762372
I will grab one, thanks.

>>5762384
I'm not qualified to give advice on anything, but I try not to worry about looking like a lesbian beyond just trying to look male in general. Because when it comes down to it if someone reads me as female they're going to read me as female. Nobody is going to be "oh this person looks like a girl but no lesbian i know wears those types of hats! must be a dude". I guess hypothetically somebody could classify me as butch instead of male based on whether or not I'm wearing flannel but it seems like if they need to really think on it and compare me to whatever mental stereotypes they have cataloged I've already lost desu
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>>5761276
Yeah I'm a christfag. I don't talk religion much with friends and such cause I don't want to push anything on them. But yeah.
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i love bimbos
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Michael Tintiuc.
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>>5762454
Me too anon, but I'm embarrassed about it.
Tatiana Kotova is cute.
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>>5760775
>Problem hair

i hope you have a good lawyer who's skilled in false rape accusations
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>>5761124
hope its not Bjork
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>>5762384
What do you mean by "neutral"?

Before I came out to myself as trans I dressed androgynously. Baggy band shirts, plain black jeans, short hair, no makeup, no jewelry. I spent a year or two in high school trying to be feminine but that didn't last long, and for my entire adult life I tried as hard as I could to avoid looking female (though I didn't wear men's clothes because I thought I wasn't "allowed"... I wore a lot of unisex stuff and women's clothes styled like men's).

After I came out to myself I gradually started introducing men's clothing into my wardrobe; I started binding more and more frequently; my haircuts got shorter and more masculine. I didn't pass, and even after starting T it took me awhile to pass and I stayed in the closet to most people in my day-to-day life.

When I started passing and the time came to come out, I had already switched over to a masculine presentation. I didn't have to do anything about my appearance after I came out, by that point I was already presenting as a man with an all-male wardrobe, haircuts, etc.

I know some MtFs who did it like this too.
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>>5762404
>"oh this person looks like a girl but no lesbian i know wears those types of hats! must be a dude"

i actually do this all the time
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the original husbando, the first man i wanted to fuck + wanted to be
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>>5762545
my sister is obsessed with him. Everything is "David Duchovny this" "David Duchovny that"
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This weird gangly fuck.

The height and the voice and everything in general makes me want to claw through his sternum, huddle up inside his chest cavity and wear him as a meat suit forever.
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will she ever come back
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>>5762586
really? he's old now though lol. not nearly as hot as he used to be. is she into daddy types or something
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>>5762619
PLEB
LEB
EB
B
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>>5762536
>What do you mean by "neutral"?
a kind of look equally likely to be done by both men and women and could easily go either way based on other gendered cues--what you described in the second line, basically.

I'm pre-t and look really, REALLY bad in mens clothes which makes dysphoria worse, so I just avoid them for now. I guess I've got it in my head that if I start passing without working my ass off for it I'll feel better doing it? Idk.

And yeah I've met plenty of MTFs who've just leapt right in or started neutral and added as they went, I was just curious if there was any anecdata on the "male fail" method in reverse.
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>>5762464

What is that and how do I have sex with it
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>>5762545
Same. Dakimakura that has Mulder on one side and Hank Moody on the reverse when
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>>5762618
Nice
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>>5762685
Go to Moldova.
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>>5762744
>tummy freckles
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>>5762618
AAP
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>>5762772
Stomach/arm veins.
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>>5762797
>forgot to greentext
>whatever
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>>5762668
that's what i do. plain, women-cut jeans because >hips, unisex t shirts, sort of unisex guy shoes/jackets. also dark neutral colors.
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>>5762294

get a hat... idk... last time i had a real haircut was in july and it was an accident... but at least it'll grow back soon enough

>>5762384

i dress pretty unisex, my hair is about shoulder length... people usually aren't 100% on what i am and i get addressed as a guy or girl every so often but usually just neutral... i bind... most people don't assume i'm a lesbian... is that what you mean?
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>>5762668

just scrolled down and saw what you mean... i don't wear women's clothes, but boy's clothes fit me better so yeah...

if they're more gender neutral looking chick clothes it's about the same though
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I want to start HRT. I'm out to no one but a few close friends. I have no clue what to do next. How do I start this? Do I make an appointment with my GP? Do I have to look up a trans-friendly doctor off of the internet and make an appointment with them? I'm fucking clueless.
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>>5763178

nvm I did some digging. I think I can handle this.
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>>5762384
I think I look pretty neutral right now. I'm still going by my birth name and feminine pronouns and shit because I don't feel right asking people to call me a guy before I can pass as one. I'm on T, and my therapist says I look like a 15-year-old boy; my face is still fairly feminine and round, but I have a shadow of a mustache coming in now (awkward). My hair is short, but I think I could be read either as a really butch chick or a younger, slightly feminine guy. I wear oversized men's hoodies and t-shirts and men's sweat pants and shoes because I am a bum and also THESE FUCKING HIPS. I'm in this weird in-between land and I mostly just don't interact with people or talk or anything right now. I'm planning on continuing to work out, take T, and be a near-hermit until I pass better. Thankfully I work from home and don't really have to leave my apartment much.

>>5762545
Oh baby. After all these years, I'm still as in love with both Mulder and Scully as ever. X-Files was what really drove home for me the fact that I was biscum.

>>5762730
Would buy.

>>5763178
It depends on where you live. I asked my primary care doctor whether she'd be comfortable prescribing T and she said no. I started seeing a therapist who specializes in "gender issues" (most of her clients are trans), and, after a few sessions, she referred me to another local doctor who also works with a lot of trans patients and regularly prescribes HRT. I went and saw this other doctor, got bloodwork and a physical done, and then she gave me a prescription for T and showed me how to do the injections. So, I guess you could ask your GP, but my guess is that they'll probably refer you to someone else, possibly an endocrinologist.
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>>5763244
Ah, well, good luck, I hope it goes well.
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>>5762454
>"hum, the water isn't thickening."
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Kieth David, but I'm just in it for the voice. Michelle Rodriguez for waifu.
This is pretty much as far as real people go.
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>>5761276
I believe he was a man with some interesting strategies.


Amanita Muscaria (or fly agaric) mushrooms are a deliriant, which is different than magic mushrooms- it's more similar to taking a bunch of Benadryl and just as bad for your health.
Instead of seeing patterns and shit, you have full on delusions, including holding full conversations with imagined people, finishing a complex, multi-stage action (such as getting dressed) and then suddenly discovering one had not even begun yet, etc.
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>>5762384
>mostly neutral presentation and kept it like that until they were consistently read as male

Androgyny is inherently masculine, so it's sort of confusing, but I get you. It hurts to dress overtly masculine pre-T when you really don't pass for anything but a 12 year old boy.
Recently I purchased men's levi 501 camo cargo pants and wearing them in public felt very strange + a hoodie, but I hope to make them a staple of my post-passing on T hiking wardrobe.
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>charity collector rings my doorbell
>he's really cute
>let him give his whole sales pitch
>turns out I'm too young to sign up to their thing anyway
>he asks my name, shakes my hand and skips away
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>he knows you like him
>you tell him
>im not gay or bi and will never be
>never be
>never
>oh btw im being stationed in Georgia for military
>CCCCOMBO BREAKER
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>>5765091
moar
>oh god how i miss your hugs and shitty fuckboy old spice scent
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>>5764988
>camo cargo
>buys the most lesbian pants they have
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a lotta straight girls itt
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>>5765102
Dude, if you guys are friends, then you should probably let it go and keep being friends.
Ether you'll find someone else or he eventually falls gay for you (probably not but can happen)
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posting pic for posterity
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>>5765117
i wish i could do this but,
he's in georgia
>backstory time
friend told me when he lived in another state, this guy was OBSESSED with him, like to the point where he would steal hair from him and fuse it into a sweater and wear it naked.
he probably thinks all gay guys are like this
we dont talk anymore but still :/
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>go to wales for a weekend to meet friends i havent seen much
>get to mack on the irish guy i like and spend basically the whole weekend held in his arms while playing drinking games

i had a great time /ftmg/ and now im back in england and i feel lonely

also i got to watch an attractive married guy basically do a striptease under the guise of "showing off his tatoos"
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>>5765091
goddanmit now i want calpico and him giving me calpico!
oh and im posting as Gen from now on
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>>5765122
Damn, a real gay magnet this guy

Oh well, ether way, if you can, shoot him a text, tell him you sorry for making him feel awkward, that you found out about his previous experience and that you think it's fucked up, tell him that you still wanna be friends if he's cool with it

Just be real straight forward with him
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>>5765150
i did a while back and we just talked about it and shit
but he was just like "its best if we dont talk anymore"
and we never have since
>many of his exes said he was a huge fuckboy and huge "down there"
>this
>this killed me
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>>5765155
>huge "down there"
Gotta love a man with big ankles

So I guess the plan of action is pretty obvious isn't it? Give it up and move on
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>>5765171
kek big ankles
yea but fuck its hard to move on w/ this guy for some reason
like at school i cant be in the band room without him being mentioned (yes calm down im 18)
its so fustrating like hngghGHGHGHN
i dont know i just want to be cozy and snuggle with him and drink calpico
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>>5765180
Yeah, that how this feeling stuff works or so I heared
it's gonna be fine, you are young and probably cute so just chill out for a while and you'll get over it and find yourself some new crush, maybe even mutual this time around
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>>5765204
yeah,
but still
>tfw anon saying im probably cut is the nicest thing ive heard all day
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>>5765208

>tfw I remember every complement I got in my life
>all 3 of them
Take what you get anon
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>>5765229
kek
yeah
you know what anon? you made my day.
thank you
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>>5765249
I'm glad
get better, tiger
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Post pics of yourselves and I'll call you all individually beautiful
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>>5765262
:0
:|
:)
it a new day because of anon kun
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>>5763819

the only time i've ever found michelle rodriguez attractive was a pic of her in bed with no make up on... thought it was weird cuz normally i think she's unattractive... not ugly, just not at all my type, it felt kinda like the time ellen page tricked me into finding her attractive with make up and a dress on...

>>5764988

androgyny isn't inherently masculine...

>>5765155

time to get over him if he doesn't even want to speak to you...

>>5765229

you've really only ever gotten 3 compliments?

>>5765268

that just seems sad...
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>>5765428
I think Ellen Page is cute. I probably would.
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>>5765428
your kinda late m8
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>>5765268
tell me i'm pretty meme man
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>>5765442

she isn't ugly but eh... not at all my type, but my s/o and i were arguing once about whether or not she was attractive while looking at pics at her and there was one where she was dressed up for something that i was actually like "oh hey she's pretty cute here" but 99% of the time eh...

i prefer feminine chicks, which is why her and michelle rodriguez are just uninteresting to me...

>>5765444

you're late
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>>5765451
Potato/10
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Weird question for guys on T: are your nipples hard more often than they were before you started T? For the last few weeks, I feel like my nips are constantly hard for no reason and it's not pleasant. If I don't have my binder on, they're pointy as fuck. It doesn't correlate with me being cold or horny or anything else that I've noticed. This was never an issue for me before...

Pic related but not me. Thanks for letting me use your picture, Erect Nipple Dude.
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>>5765451
qtqtqt
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>>5765451
You look a lot like my best friend from elementary school through high school; I didn't really appreciate it then (I wasn't really attracted to guys back then) but looking back he really was a super cute guy, pretty but in a boyish way. It's a shame I ended up moving away in the middle of high school and lost touch with him, he was a great guy. I guess it's for the best though, he probably wouldn't want to know that his childhood friend is now trans and kind of in retrospect wishes that they had been more than friends, haha.

Err, sorry for going off on a nostalgia tangent; the point is you remind me of a really pretty boy I once knew.
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>>5765451
Too dark too low-quality possibly cute but can't tell/10
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>>5765268
pre-anything/10

I'm also looking for a name, so if anything automatically jumps out at you, I'd like ideas.
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>>5765695
Thomas? How does that sound?
You look like my ex-bf.
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>>5765695
Craig Tucker.
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>>5765695
I was considering this name but Maze Runner honestly ruined it for me.

>>5765711
Wait fuck.
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>>5765695
mike
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>>5765710
>>5765779
quoted myself by mistake

>>5765849
That's my step-dad's name lol
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>>5765695
Names that pop out
>James
>Eli
>Luke/Lucas
>Patrick
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>>5765493
Never hard, but it could be something to do with the change in sensation? They become less sensitive with testosterone idk maybe the process also makes them hard, it's a long time ago and I can't say I specifically remember hard nips.
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>>5765695
<3
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>>5765695
u look like an old lesbian

>>5765451
u look like a boy with autism
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>>5766999
No u
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>>5766999
>wasted dubs trips checked
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>>5767076
dubs confirm dyke face
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>>5765695
Frank/Frankie
Joe/ Joey
Steve
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>>5765493
Every cis dude I know seems to have perky nips virtually all the time so I guess that's normal

>>5767176
>Frank/Frankie
Every time I hear that name I think of pic related
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I'm lel every time I see a "straight" trans guy panicking about how T is making him attracted to guys
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Determined to stop being a little bitch and get my hair cut short this week. What can I ask for/do to minimise the round face? If I'm doing this boymode shit, I'm doing it properly.
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>>5767226
Still not attracted to guys, but kind of am interested in cock? Possibly the whole don't have one giving me some sort of weird sexual curiosity. Not panicking tho because fuck being a diva
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>>5767287
Make sure they don't give you the cute pixie cut. They tend to do that when 'women' com in for a haircut. It's amazing how hard it is for them to give a masculine cut to a transguy. I
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I need someone to decide for me:
do it now or do it later?
pls
thanks
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>>5767358
Shoo
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>>5767370
b-but that's not an answer
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>>5767377
Suicide puppy pls go
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>>5767385
This is literally not about suicide
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>>5767343
I don't want a feminine cut but I'm too embarassed to say I want a masculine one. Still larval stages tomboy-mode. I'm looking for reference images of unisex styles I think can go either way without raising too much suspicion.
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>>5767396
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>>5767420
please
I literally only want to know if I should talk to this girl now or later
why won't you decide for me
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>>5767412
Just ask for tomboy. It probably won't be that bad and you can always fix it if it goes wonky. Short hair grows out fast enough, and you can start experimenting.
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>>5767423
Fine. Talk to her, don't cut/shoot/jump anything, k
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>>5767412
Short hair is so in these days even for cis women so it's literally not a big issue if you say you want short hair. no need to say why.
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>>5767431
That's how you end up with the feminine cut...
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>>5767427
I literally have no intention of killing myself!
Besides, if I wanted someone to tell me I'd just go to mtfg they'll give you a speedy response one way or the other
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>>5762921
How do you get an accidental haircut, Brooklyn?
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Cisscum here

You ftms seem to have a good amount of gays and straights

Mtf gens are full of cocklusters
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>>5767412
It surprises me that there are ftms in here that don't dress and present 100% male

its not like you have the same excuse mtfs have
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>>5767434
Go talk to your girl. Shoo.
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>>5767441
I'll take your bait, sir. What do you mean?
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>>5767450
unpassing ftm = lezza
unpassing mtf = sick freak, kill with fire.
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>>5767457
You live in strange lands, m8
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>>5767450
Whats the reason you have to be dressing like a female?
Even some straight women have men's haircuts and wear exclusively men's clothes

society doesn't care, like they care about males in dresses
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>>5767461
Are you kidding?
Where the hell do you live?
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>>5767463
Not necessarily as hated as MtF sure but I personally can't present male because I'll get fired. Simple as that.

That being said I have all the sympathy in the world for MtF. It's a completely different hell.
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Idk man, testosterone is some powerful shit, social transition is a massive lifestyle change, and as desirable as it is, it's something that's good to emotionally prepare for. I'm still in that stage.

(not the haircut anon, btw, my hair's halfway down my back because viking)
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>>5767475
where do you work? are you a prostitute?
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>>5767358
now
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>>5767479
>Please feed the troll. Pretty please.
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>>5767475
You could present socially though, and at worst be seen as lez, right? Whereas an mtf would be stoned in some parts
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>>5767440
thats because they have tlg dummy
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>>5767480
DONE
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>>5767485
>troll

are you 35+
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>>5767493
Proud of you, son.
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>>5767486
>Whereas an mtf would be stoned in some parts
So would I. Depends on the region and the people.
It depends on context sure, but being trans is isn't ok most places, no matter what kind of trans. In most of Asia a MtF have it a lot easier than FtM, in Europe it is opposite.

I'm out with my closest friends but I live in /pol/ country so I need to be careful. Already had my life threatened twice this month because people don't like 'lesbians'. Figure.
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>>5767493
How did it go?

>>5767496
Are you 12?
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>>5767431
>>5767433
yeah just ask them to shave it off, I've had two cis women friends recently just have their hair buzzed off. There's no way to get a 'feminine' buzzcut
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>there are ftms in here that actually wear girls clothes
>lesgen is more male than this gen

i give up
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>>5767516
You can do that yourself, though. No need to pay a hairdresser to do it.
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>>5767424
Man, I wouldn't know how to fix it if it came out too girly looking. Though I suppose going in there saying I'm done with the girly shit, they might get what I'm going for.

>>5767441
There's a difference between dressing and presenting as one's gender.
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>>5767506
You live in Moscow?
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>>5767528
>Though I suppose going in there saying I'm done with the girly shit, they might get what I'm going for.
This will work, just make sure the hairdresser does both male and female clients, or else they're clueless.
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>>5767529
No
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>>5767506
Fuck, are you in Russia? get the fuck out of there.
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>>5767508
probably should have waited, but whatever, at least I saved myself the angst of waiting.
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>>5767522
Is it possible to cut your own hair so it's slightly longer than a buzzcut, but still pretty close to the scalp? Like <1"? I have really thick hair but don't want to look potatofaced...
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>>5767555
I do this. You need an adjustment thingy on the electric razor.
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>>5767536
Oh yeah, the place I'm thinking of going with has "barber shop" before "hairdresser" on the sign.
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>>5767544
where do you live then
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>>5767547
>>5767566
Can't say that without outing myself to other lurkers here, sorry. One of the guys who threatened me lurks 4chan.
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>>5767574
dam u crazy
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>>5767592
I wish
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>>5767592
Let me clear this. The guy knows me in real life, and lurks here, but he doesn't know I lurk here. He will recognize me If I say where I live, and that will set him off again.
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>>5767574
it's gotta be slavland
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>>5767607
>He will recognize me If I say where I live, and that will set him off again.

get help
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>>5767626
Police are idiots, so not that easy.
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>>5767637
i meant for your severe case of paranoid schizophrenia
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>>5767642
Wow. You should leave your mother's basement sometime, m8
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>>5767437

so my hair was (pic related) long at the time, and my s/o and i were smoking in our tent... and like i said it was july, and there was a heat wave so i figured we'd trim it a little just so it wasn't so hot...

cuz we were high he messed up a bit, but it was still about shoulder length (where it is now) and the next day we smoked again, he was gonna even if out... turned out to not be the best idea and i ended up with fairly short hair for most of the year...

so yeah... accidental haircut
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>>5767656
Weed and sharp objects. Nice combo.
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>>5767607
if he's /pol/ why would he regularly lurk in /ftmg/ lol
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>>5767651
10mg of Zyprexa a day, taken orally until symptoms subside

take it until you stop believing anonymously mentioning the country you live in is going to reveal your name and identity to some faggot
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>>5767660

it's worked out fine before... other people liked it anyway, i just felt like i was wearing someone else's hair...
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>>5767677
Because they fishing here.

>>5767678
How is it to live in a large country with millions of inhabitants?

Few trans guys lurk here, I know he lurks this board particularly to fish, and mentioning our country will remind him that I exist. I don't want people coming by me or any of my friends because this bastard got ideas in his head again.
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>>5767656
brooklyn is a mexi chick
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>>5767698
*go fishing
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>>5767701

i'm italian, puerto rican and cuban... you must be white
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>>5767698
Iceland and Greenland are the only euro countries with less than 1mil population
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can i interest anyone in some peppermints? peppermint anyone
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>>5767717
the whitest

ARGENTINAARGENTINAARGENTINA
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>>5767737

usually only white people think anyone who has any hispanic in them is mexican...
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this girl is my dream
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>>5767727
Very good. You have learned to google. Now google hyperbole, and after that try to reason out how large % of any Euro population is lgbt and compare that to the 323 million inhabitants of your country. Come on.
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>>5767748
don't you have some teenage boy to be getting murdered by lezzie? no need to get smart with me
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>>5767760
/Pol/troll pls go hero
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>>5767770
i bet hes lurking right now eurogrill
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>>5767476
>because viking

You Nordic? Hei på deg.
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>>5762744
>>5762797
This looks like an /mtfg/ tripfag his name is Jormy
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>>5762508
I hope you have a good therapist who is skilled in solving brainwashing.
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>>5767852
enjoy your bpd gf

see you in small claims court
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>>5767733
thanks friend ill take one
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>>5767886
>bookcase just for show
Telling.
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>>5767893
actually these are all my bookshelves and ive read every book actually
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>>5767893
Hey I've read more than half of my bookcase mother ficker
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>>5767843
It's a male model from eastern euro. I don't go to mtfg so I don't know Jomy, though
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>>5767863
I'm pretty sure half of /ftmgen/ has bpd according to totally 100% truthful /lgbt/ surveys.
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>>5767915
>I don't go to mtfg so I don't know Jomy, though
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>>5767920
bpd is the ultimate female mind
pretty ironic i guess
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>>5767941
that's a cute boy
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>>5767941
Haha holy shit wow
The guy in the earlier pics is still hotter though
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>>5767801
Not properly because born in America, some Norwegian heritage though. (Unfortunately I don't speak enough to say anything beyond "hey," "thanks," and to ask for lefse.)

The viking look's got way more to do with religious stuff because Heathen desu.
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>>5767902
>tfw one's own personal book collection could stock a town library.
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>>5767920
Link survey?
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>>5767801
Fucking Amerifags and their generations old ethnicity claims.
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>>5765493
>severely inverted nipples
>literally no nipple sensation, nothing, nada
When I get top surgery I'm going to have the surgeon turn them out so I'm actually expecting more nipple sensation post op.

>>5767698
Must suck living in a third world country, get out while you can son. The only /poltards where I'm at are poor white people living off food stamps and medicaid voting republican cause they're scared the gov'mnts gonna take away their guns they can't even afford bullets for.
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>>5765454
no, your late
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>>5767519
Chill, not everyone is even out yet

>>5767678
>Zyprexa
Yeah no
BIG PHARMA $HILL PLS GO
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Mado is waifu4laifu
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>>5767656
That's actually a pretty funny story. I understand now. And you're on T, right?
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>>5768453
Are you sure it works like that?
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>Want to put an ad in craigslist
>Want to find a twinkish ftm with no surgery and a tight cunt to get face down ass up and wait in a motel room.
>Want to spend all night deep dicking that hot creamy gash raw while the little faggot almost begs for mercy and creams all over my massive uncut dick
>Will never do it because I'm afraid I might end up becoming addicted to it and have to fuck a new transboy every week and potential for aids is through the roof
>Will continue to jack off with both fists to amature transboy masturbation videos and imagine the toy their riding is my 9x6 t
>I'll eventually stop wanting to rape reverse traps and go back to my normal het cis male chad/jamal ways.
>Soon I hope.
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>>5768865
Are you on T yet, Mado?
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>>5765695
Eric? Aleksander? Bowden? Gunner? You pass but as a guy gay
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>>5767287
Go get a short haircut, if they make your sideburns super pointed, go buy razors and shave 'em flat. That's what I did, and still do when I let my hair grow out. Usually that's what feminizes a face.
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>ftm
>Doesn't mind crossdressing if it's noted as crossdressing
>Enjoy being kind of fem (painting nails, long hair, being a pretty boy, etc)
>Still super dysphoric about all sex characteristics

What the fuck do, ftmg?
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>>5768677

no you

>>5769022

nah, bad situation + a lot of health issues that need to be sorted out before i can do anything... my life is pretty depressing with not much hope of getting better lol
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>>5769872

fix dysphoria continue to paint your nails and crossdress? what else? that's just the kinda guy you are, but you still need to treat the other shit... dysphoria left untreated longterm is a bitch, and it doesn't get better... it gets worse, and being lucky is hitting zen mode depression past a certain point...
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>>5769872
sorry to say, thats just not how it works, bucko
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>>5769906
Ty anon, I appreciate it.
It just feels so tumblr-y and like a shitty transtrender meme. I almost wish I could force the macho stereotype, but it's too natural to just be a fag. I dont want to have a negative impact on other trans guys, y'know?
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>>5769993
You are fine. Obviously everyone's different and I don't think that that kind of thing negates who you actually are.
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>>5765695

Would like to poorly hit on/10

You kinda look like you've got a less common name, something starting with a c or a k.
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>>5769993

>are there feminine guys who paint their nails and crossdress
>yes
>is it vastly common in guys who are outside the standard guy paradigm, aka gay/alt dudes
>yes

Pls don't listen to the 'kek transtrender' brigade, they are foreveralone retards who post on /pol/. Conservative retards who are gay shitposting on /lgbt/ doesn't mean 'macho' is the only type of guy that exists.
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>answer the door in a pink dressing gown (shut up, it's cosy and a dark pink) and messy, chin length bed hair
>still pass

this is a good feel

god bless T
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>>5760876
specters better
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i'm giving up, brothers and sisters.
But I bet i'll be right back on it by the end of the week.
I hope not.
But I've committed it to writing now, so I hope I can stick to it
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>>5769993

eh you being who you are doesn't affect me in any way... you're not a reflection of me, so i'm not concerned... and honestly while i don't wear women's clothes or make up etc i'm not exactly really masculine anyway and i prefer keeping my hair long and shit ... so it'd be pretty hypocritical of me to judge you over that, dysphoria makes you trans, your interests and hobbies don't... you being a transguy who likes dresses and painting his nails is fine, it's just you... but the thing is, you're a transguy who likes dresses and paints his nails so you're gonna have to learn how to be yourself without giving a shit what other people think cuz caring with that going on is gonna make you miserable...
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>mfw body suddenly hitting second puberty outta nowhere
>mfw hips getting wider, ass and tits bigger
>mfw still have to wait 2 years to even get considered for T because laws

Make it stop
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>>5770330

what's going on?
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>>5770390
buy hormones online familia
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>>5770399
Can you even do that with T? If so, where?
>>5770396
Nothing important I'm just trying to cut off contact with a...difficult individual in my life
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>>5770411

just making sure you weren't thinking about killing yourself or anything... vaguely worded posts that involve giving up in a place full of trans people tend to sound like that you know? lol
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>>5770432
oh shit sorry
I didn't even think of that
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>>5770450

it's cool... better that you're alright anyway

what'd you do write them a letter or something?
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>>5770411
dunno, I've never looked into it as I live in a first world country with free healthcare
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>>5770506
No, I'm at a complicated place at the moment, about to hear about surgery next week, so I don't want to get into anything too heavy - if you know what I mean. For now, I'm just going to stop bothering them, but the thing is they will get back in touch at some point and the cycle will repeat itself - that's why I said about the end of the week. It's a weird state of affairs.
>>5770649
Me too. I remember trying to order steroids when I first started to bypass wasting a year on RLE without HRT. It was very complicated, they only wanted Western Union money transfers. I only think that buying hormones online is only viable for the Mtfs, unless you go on something like silk road maybe? But then you need BitCoin so.
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>>5770676

oh i get that... i actually have a friend like that, idk why we talk desu (we aren't currently now, but it's only a matter of time that's what it always is) cuz we really don't get along... like just really bad fights and then she's all like really christian and anti-drug so we're just really not even each other's kinda person... she just really wants to fuck me i think, like she's told me she's in love with me, but the truth is she can't stand me so i just think she's repressed and wants to fuck... idk...

we get along great when it's been a while and we just kinda talk about meaningless bullshit... but if we talk often it goes to hell pretty quick

but the cycle just seems to be a longterm thing, been going on for 14 years at this point... idk what to tell you other than to appreciate the time without them while it lasts and try to withdraw a bit when the bad shit starts to come out...
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>>5770703
Yeah, I think we have something similar going on here. Recently, she admitted to liking me, and I would have no problem in trying things out with her but I think she can't bring herself to do it because I'm trans.

It's not been 14 years yet, which is actually quite impressive that you've stuck through it, but I am looking to end these cycles eventually. If I can't get her to be more normal with me and to learn to actually confide in me, then I'm just go to tell her straight once I've had my surgery and just leave her for good if that's what it comes too. I just feel so angry because I could quite happily walk away now, but she will be back and she won't even make an effort when she does. It'll just be one-sided conversation and she'll expect me to try and get things going again - which I have been doing but she's been so allusive. So, yeah, I just guess I got to enjoy these few days and try not to get too angry. That'll come later when she's back.

I've also just accidentally - and it was an accident I've no idea how I did it - deleted her on fb. Which should be helpful to me because it means I can't obsess over if she's been deliberately ignoring me or not, so yeah.
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>sick with a cold
>doctors appointment for unrelated shit today
>go in expecting quick appointment
>turns out I need to get some blood work done
>go into room
>it's fucking packed
>standing here waiting and can feel binder feeling tighter and tighter
Just kill me, m8's.
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>>5770780
>Handicap toilet
>strip and scream muffled into clothes
>Return to sick people room
>Repeat when needed
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>>5770780
phlebotomists love my veins
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>>5770757

oh in my situation it's more that i'm the one who's like "fuck this" and disappears usually, but she'll get back in touch with me and i'll give her a chance cuz at first she's easy to talk to... but as soon as she gets more attached she starts acting like we're dating and like i'm supposed to have these long drawn out talks about feelings with her... and i'm just not like that, she expects me to tell her more about shit than i tell my s/o, and him and i have been dating for 11 years... so it's just like "what the fuck i don't even do this in my actual relationship"

she's really intense, and i can't deal with that shit cuz she gets offended and more clingy when i back off... and like she's the kinda person who gets pissy and then will blame me for her behaviour... and i don't care in the sense that i can just say "i'm not responsible for the shit you choose to say or how you act" and be done with it + not take it personally...

she knows i'm trans and doesn't give a shit, and has been in love with me for years (i couldn't even talk to her at all when my s/o and i were dating our ex, she went fucking psycho and when it got to the point where i couldn't even mention my ex's name without her flipping her shit) and that's honestly part of why i talk to her... cuz i feel like she if she does like me that much i shouldn't just disappear entirely

i really think most of it is just that she's unhappy with her husband and knows i don't care about that and would fuck her anyway if she ever decided she was for sure gonna cheat, but the straight up psycho shit is a bit much...

i honestly think even after your surgery you should consider not going for that desu... that shit's too exhausting to take too seriously, and you don't want that...

keep shit at friendship if you end up continuing that cycle... cuz seriously that'll just fuck up your life i imagine... if maintaining a friendship with someone is hard a relationship is just gonna be worse...
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>>5770780

i hate bloodwork, i always end up with really bad bruising and shit...
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>>5770959

-she*
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>>5769891
Damn. I hope that shit gets better for you, you stoner <3
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Get me off this damnation

>mfw can't tell if i have actual gender dysphoria or if it's just internalized misogyny/gender stereotypes and/or non-gender dysphoria
>mfw therapists don't give two shits, "gotta focus on treating depression and anxiety for now, leave those issues for later"
>mfw crippling autismo
>mfw doc wants to give me titty skittles and make me even batshit insaner
>"just stop thinking about it"
>"calm down"
>go on chinese cartoon anonymose interwebs board to cry and whine about it
>mfw
>m

How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real

Haha
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>>5771639
are you lost this is ftmgen
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>>5771639
>gotta focus on treating depression and anxiety for now, leave those issues for later
That's the fucking opposite of what I'm doing, man. I hid my gender issues from my doctor and therapist, only letting on about depression and anxiety and got fucking nowhere. Now I've spilt the beans, I'm getting referrals and actually making something that looks like progress.
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>>5771639
Yo, one they think you're crazy all free choice with your opinions goes out the window. It's screwed.

You could see a gender-specific therapist
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>>5765102

Maybe he thought you were annoying asf, has anyone taught you how to pose in photos like a human being?
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how's it going lads, finally got my first binder today but it looks like I'm too big for it to do much good, it's still pretty noticeable.

So basically I'm gonna have to go on HRT with noticeable breasts and become a hairy lesbian.

>MFW
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>>5772699
don't worry mate there's still time to master the art of baggy clothing

also, if you pass you can still have a bit of a chest and people usually won't notice, passing is funny like that
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>>5772717
maybe I'm just paranoid but I feel like you can really see it, even when I'm wearing baggy hoodies and stuff
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>>5772750
probably everyone gets that feeling, i know i do and i've asked others and they say it looks fine

bear in mind the way you look down at your body with a dysphoria-influenced mind will be different to how a stranger looks at you-they probably don't care enough to be radar-eyeing your chest anyway
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>>5772699
lose sum fuckin weight
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>>5772750
If it's your first binder, that may be the case. I remember being really worried about it when I made the switch from ace bandages (ftm meme, it's seriously bad for you, don't do it etc) because it wasn't as flat as it had been. More than likely, the binder has got you flat enough. If you're super worried about it and willing to put in some work, start working out, lots of upper body stuff, pass it off as having glorious top tier pecs.
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>>5771817
I know

>>5771962
>>5772064
I got a psychologist gender/sexology/whatever tf specialist since last year, usual therapy n group therapy since... 2013-14 I think

just so fucking frustrating, following me everywhere, twisting and cutting chunks of my brain and setting it on fire, "just stop thinking" isn't enough to cut it

one persistent feeling tho is that I want the fuckin milk bags chopped off, that much I know... that and a low voice, the sharp features, the darkslate-blue (sorry, kinda synesthesiac) masculinity ... and I do feel more, "at home" like that, n male adjectives (gendered lang) come to me naturally without even thinking, it's become a bit of a problem to the people I haven't come out to... and if I wind up not being legitimately trans it's gonna be a really fuckin bad hard habit to break

years telling myself i'm not a tranny, i'm not one of those, everybody do what they want but that just ain't me... yeah I want my tits chopped off and a very slightly male body, yeah I wear "male clothing", etc etc b-but I'm still a grill!!! ...fuck no, pal... no matter how much I pretend, I just can't identify as one

I mean shit my genitals are kinda... weird down there yanno... TMI, clit kinda looks like a flaccid tiny dick, even... and my body is masculine I guess, wide shoulders, defined arms, masculine face shape, hairier than a gorilla to the point I have to even shave my face...
if anything I've always looked MtF, a hon

And that's another thing, maybe because I couldn't look like "other girls", my mind just went "ay just be a guy then"...
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>>5772917
have you considered the possibility you're intersex anon? maybe just PCOS or an unusual hormonal make-up

either way you might want to explore these thoughts with a therapist who is accustomed to gender-questioning patients
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>>5771580

<3

>>5771639

why don't you try explaining that the gender issues are a big part of the depression and anxiety, and that you really feel like if you addressed that the anxiety and depression would lessen with that... then explain why...

i imagine that'd help better than just saying nothing or freaking out about it...

>>5772917

so you know what you need to feel comfortable... at least it sounds like it...

and i get not wanting to be trans... it's not something i wanted either, and i tried to live with it for a while and just tell myself that wasn't it... but eh... it kinda
gets impossible to avoid when it is, so you'll figure it out sooner or later...

'til then not thinking whenever possible really is for the best... there really is other shit to do other than obsessively think about everything that sucks, and if there isn't find something... you'll figure out shit and learn how to accept shit eventually... and you'll know what you want... and everything is gonna be whatever it is, but all thinking is gonna do is get you upset, and you should clear your head before you think anyway... emotions make shit harder to actually think about, so you gotta learn to put them aside when you do

i'm curious though... if you were just a cis girl who was unfortunately masculine... but still a chick and not a trans guy, why wouldn't you just put the effort into being more feminine than thinking about shit like getting surgery and going on hormones? make up and chick clothes seem easier... shit i've seen some horrible chicks learn to make themselves appear a couple numbers higher after a couple of years... i mean, if that shit mattered to you enough to "make you trans" wouldn't the more logical route be to work with what you have in a way that most people find socially acceptable?
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>>5765695
You look like a Ryan to me.
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I was whining in one of these threads a few days ago about feeling fat and flabby and pear-shaped, and an anon rightfully called me out saying I was "fat as fuck" at 5'4" and ~100 pounds. I know my perception of my own body is fucked up, but it only just hit me today how fucked up it really is. I was looking in the mirror, and I realized that my shoulders are actually a fair amount wider than my hips. I'm far closer to an "inverted triangle" shape than a pear. My thighs touch because my legs are positioned close together and my pelvis is relatively tiny. So, what the fuck gives?

I'm not a fan of my brain causing my eyes to play tricks on me. I look at my thighs and hips and ass and go "fuck, what a mess, this shit is huge and feminine-looking and I'll never pass as male, I need liposuction/to lose 20 pounds/to eat a bullet." I look at my shoulders and go "fuck, what a mess, they're so tiny and non-square and I'll never pass as male, I need to lift more/jump off a bridge." My shoulders are objectively wider than my hips, yet my brain won't accept that this is the case.

Who knows, maybe it's even the same when it comes to my face. I think of myself as being irredeemably ugly, but I have no idea what I look like through the eyes of someone who isn't me. I don't want to give myself false hope, though.
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>>5773588
>I'm not a fan of my brain causing my eyes to play tricks on me. I look at my thighs and hips and ass and go "fuck, what a mess, this shit is huge and feminine-looking and I'll never pass as male
I mean, these are things that aren't uncommon at all with trans people in general. I frequently have people telling me how thin I look and all I can see are my thighs and hips and tits and how much they bother the fuck out of me. Makes me feel like I'm a whale.

I always assumed it was because you have all this shit on your body that isn't supposed to be there so it of course just looks and feels completely out of place and causes you to feel self conscious and fucked up.

I recently became aware of how much wider my shoulders are than my hips too, especially when I stop slouching and fix my posture/shoulders.
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>>5773588
I was the anon that called you out, and I'm glad to see you posting this. This was my experience too as I got further and further along in transition. I think that for a lot of trans people the line between dysphoria and dysmorphia is very blurry, and that it gets blurrier the longer we've been on HRT (i.e. as our bodies change but our feelings about them stay the same). It takes active, conscious work to break out of dysmorphic thought patterns. It's hard to do and I'm proud of you for taking the first steps anon.
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>>5772699
>Produce101
At least you're not 101 teen Korean girls competing for a spot in a fake group
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>>5773621
Yeah, I don't see thin at all, either. I see non-masculine fat distribution = feminine = bad, even though I'm not "fat" as in overweight.

>>5773697
Thank you, anon--I appreciate the wake-up call. I'm really trying to work on not constantly trashing myself and on accepting my appearance. I imagine it'll take a long time to unlearn all of the "body hatred" thoughts, though.
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>>5770780
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Hey fellas what's my best option for getting some binders? Not sure where to begin the search tbqh.
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>>5773944
Ebay.
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>>5773944
underworks
ignore the ebay anon
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>>5773987
Awesome, thanks!
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>>5773987
>>5774015
Underworks or GC2b are both good.
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Three weeks on the "full dose" of T and holy shit, changes. Muh voice. Wow. Now, I'm just hoping that was my last period ever. That would be great.

Apparently my health insurance company doesn't like getting hassled, so they've decided to actually follow the law in my state and cover my HRT like they're required to. Top surgery is the next battle.

>tfw you tell your father about the Good News re: health insurance company having a change of heart and deciding to follow the law after weeks of me calling people and stressing about this shit and his response is "Ok."
Yeah, I love you too, pops.
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Is it normal to sometimes hope you can just learn to live as a female and live with the dysphoria and just bypass all the shit it would take to fix everything? I'm not out yet and still pre-everything. And while I really do want to start T and get SRS, Idk if I can qualify for any of it for medical reasons. Much less be able to afford any of it. Also knowing that coming out will guarantee the destruction of my family and leave me living in a god forsaken corn field somewhere trying not to freeze to death.
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>>5774073
Congrats! Hopefully top surgery won't be so hard now that you're on T. You have medical proof of being trans so here's hoping your insurance doesn't put up as much of a fight this time.
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>>5774096
Yeah it'd be easier to live as a female and just ignore dysphoria as long as you can but is it worth it if you never feel like you're actually living your life? Is it worth it if you end up killing yourself cause the dysphoria's just too much? Transitioning is easier than you think, way easier than living with that shit bottled up forever.
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please tell me that leaking in the stp nipple style in the 5 first tries is normal
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>>5771639
can't you get another therapist? sounds like they're doing shitty job
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>>5774173
idk I've never used one tbqh I thought they were just a meme for super butch lesbians
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>>5774150
>is it worth it if you never feel like you're actually living your life?
I've already failed in every other aspect of my life, anon. I doubt transitioning to male will change much. I might have some self-esteem issues cleared up but it wont change any years I've lost not doing anything everyone else my age has already done and then some. I don't even have any friends anymore because they're all grown and married and have kids.

But it's nice to hear that transitioning is easier than it seems. If all this fighting with my family and busting my ass trying to get out of this hick state of Indiana pays off, then it'll be the first thing I want to start working towards.
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>>5774342
hey, I'm not the one you're quoting, but everyone has their time to do their own things, life isn't over, if you want to do something, not talking about transitioning here, you can always try

it doesn't matter whatever the fuck others do with their life, only your life should matter to you
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>>5774355
Thanks anon. I guess it just gets discouraging sometimes. Since when I was at the age when I first started questioning my gender, all trannies were was just a gag guest on Jerry Springer. And going female to male was unheard of. There kinda wasn't much to go on until these past few years when we started getting more exposure.
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I've seen quite a few other ftms mention having PCOS here so I have a question - What do you/your doctors do about it if you're already on T and don't have your uterus scooped out yet?

I'm almost 100% sure I have PCOS. I've always had abnormal peroids(flow wise, sometimes twice a month, might skip, also unbelievably agonizing). Puberty was a fucking weird mashup between male and female puberty.
When I got my blood tested to see if I was ok to go on T, I saw that the paper listed my natural testosterone much higher than it should have been but she never mentioned it. I just shrugged it all off for years because whatever, I was happy with no periods anymore. Now on my last follow up, its listed that I have a 'disorder of the endocrine system'. I asked her about it and she said she couldn't elaborate because thats how far their tests went. She said she would have told me if anything was wrong but I'm going to make an appointment with my primary doctor, who at some point suggested I also have sleep apnea(which i'm also sure i have and its partially ruining my fucking life).
I'm not overweight by any means but if I do have PCOS so I'm not sure what the 'treatment' is for ftms. Would the cysts even still be there after 5 years on T?
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>>5774442
It happens,but everyone has their own path, and starting to do something earlier or later, is just that path.

and desu, I tought that being ftm looked bad, on eyes of society, but seems like is not THAT big deal, dealing with other people. at least on my country, and by no means It's a first world country
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Is growing a beard a realistic dream?
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>>5774490
depends on your genetics.
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>>5774517
Any way to know if you have the right genetics for one?
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>>5774543
your male relatives

If you're not on T though, your female relatives lol

I have heard of some women who can grow beards, but that's rare

anyway, there are some tricks, and creams for bread growth, but are somewhat expensive if you're on cheap budget, and I can't say if those work or not. you can ask where to buy one on your barber.
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>>5774543
Look at the other close male members of your family brothers, dad and uncles.

You'll follow like them more or less once you get going for a few years.
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this is the most inane bullshit but i need to say it somewhere

im insanely jealous of danny (sexbang/avidan)

hes everything i would want to be: a singer, flexible but still male voice, crazy hair, sexually free, tall, skinny, the list goes on

i like him as a person, too, so i watch game grumps without a problem but i sometimes just have to take a break because i think too hard about how he (and probably a few other people out there) are living my dream and ill never live that to the full extent of being cis and shit

apologies for probably the strangest subject to rant over ;_;
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ftmg, I made this pole about bottom surgery. pls fill out and discuss:

http://strawpoll.me/6905555
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>>5774471
They usually don't check for cysts as to diagnose you with PCOS unless you're one of the 15% of people with PCOS who develop cysts and they swell or cause you pain. Otherwise, they are essentially benign, but may slightly increase your risk for cancer??? I've heard this somewhere for sure. PCOS is basically a blanket statement to describe the effects of having T in an E driven system. According to wikipedia, 5-10% of the female-bodied population has PCOS, so it's very common.
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>>5774471

>>5760589
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>got short haircut
>wearing contacts
>mfw
I look a lot more boyish than I thought I would! I hardly look like myself! Holy shit...
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>>5775828
IM PROUD OF YOU FAGGOT, KEEP IT UP
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>>5773715
b-but they're going to be the next nation's girl group, do you want to destroy their dreams, anon?
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>>5774490
beards are a meme
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>>5774471
you may or may not have PCOS, but its worth mentioning a lot of ftms have noticeably higher levels of testosterone (pre-t) than lesbians and straight women, with or without pcos
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>>5775981
I'll do my best, fag-senpai! Shit's getting real and it's getting exciting.
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>>5775998
Just give me 11 Somis and call it a day.
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Just wondering, does someone with the initials JB, who worked in a coffee shop, still lurk in here?
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Does being gay make any of you feel less like men and more like confused women?
>date ftm guy
>acts like a flaming faggot
>wants to be penetrated vaginally
HMM
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>>5776923
Nah. I'm bi tho and don't act like a stupid flaming fuck. Wouldn't care if someone did either because I'm not insecure.
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>>5776923
no, because i'm over that kind of messed-up self-hatred. also i'm really masc, a top, and don't use my vagina at all, so there's not that much cognitive dissonance to deal with anyway
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>>5776923
>be ftm
>be gay
>be femme
>likes dick in the front hole

t b h i dont get much dysphoria over using that as long as im not thinking about it, and with all my awful gut problems and haemorrhoids etc, if i can deal with using the front bit, i'll do it. i just kind of detach from the reality of it and idk, think of it as just the sheer concept of "getting fucked" instead of "dick is going in this hole".

im still a guy mentally, just with an easy-access port.

>also enemas fucking suck
>taking dicks up the butt takes forever unless i want to bleed
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>friend sent me a birthday gift
>put my chosen name on the package instead of my birth name
>live with parents who I'm not out to yet
>one is always home
>package will probably come when I'm not home
PANIC
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>>5777037
I'm ftm & gay and have a similar attitude about this. Most of my bodily dysphoria is about my chest, anyhow. Bottom wise, I'll range from tfw no dick ;_; to "man, it'd be pretty okay if I had a dick. I guess I'm sort of okay with not having one at the moment, though."

I've a lot of gut problems too, so, I can deal with using the front bit as long as I'm turned on. It feels good. But, yeah, it helps if you think of it as "getting fucked" and not "getting penetrated vaginally" even if that is what's going on.
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>>5775031
is there really someone here who has had bottom surgery? what did you get?
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Hey /ftmg/, anon from /mtfg/ here. I have a question: I'm in High School (don't worry, I'm 18, I graduate in May), and there's this FtM guy at the school who's claiming that I can't be trans because there's no reason people should want to be a girl (basically he's saying MtF dyshoria isn't a real thing), how do I tell him it is and make him accept it? It's really been bothering me lately.
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>>5777291
He sounds like an asshole. If you're graduating soon, why bother dealing with him?
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>>5777291
What a dick. It sounds to me he doesn't know what dysphoria even is. Also that he has a fundamental misunderstanding and thinks that being trans is wanting to be the opposite gender and not "my mind doesn't fit what my body is and if I can't change this I will probably die."

Honestly, I don't know what to say to convince him. You're graduating soon, you won't have to deal with him after that.
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Does anyone here have any tips on hair? Like, I feel like mine is thinning after starting T.
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>>5777169
I've had people just put my initials or even my screen name/some joke name we both picked when I lived with my parents. I'd just tell them I was expecting a package between certain days and that was that.

My mom was extremely fucking nosy too and would get really butthurt if she was there and I refused to tell her what it was.
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>>5777351
The package itself is just a game, but, I'm more concerned about the name on it. They're gonna be all "who's (my chosen name?" and I'm not gonna know what to tell them.
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>>5777374
Could just say your friend fucked up with the name or something, or that you don't like telling people online you're a "girl" to avoid harassment. Just make up some bullshit and be done with it, really.
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>>5777291
That boy is an idiot. Don't take it upon yourself to fix stupid. Soon he'll trip hard on his weak theory of mind, all on his own.
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>>5776893

last time i spoke to him was months ago on skype... don't have skype anymore, but idk if he still comes here or not...


>>5776923

i'm bi, and i'm ok with whatever during sex cuz it's about what feels good not thinking about shit... so i'm not bothered with using what i've got in that setting, if it's pleasurable may as well, instead of allowing yet another area of my life to be affected by that shit...
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>>5777524
Yeah same. Just wanted to see if he was doing OK, it's been a while since I heard anything
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>>5777532

yeah i could see why, last we spoke he wasn't doing too great... wish i had something better to tell you...
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>>5777542
Guess I'll hang around and hope he shows up and answers
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>>5777374
Since it's gaming related, you could claim it's the name of the character you use or just what you tend to name your character/avatar.
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What kind of haircuts do you guys get? I think I need to get my hair cut again (I cut it short for the first time a bit before the end of last year). I'm autistic as fuck, though, and getting haircuts is something I have traditionally avoided as it always turns into a spaghetti-spilling party. Last time, I went in to the barbershop and basically just stuttered something inane like "give me man haircut." Now, I guess I'm going to have to be a little more specific, since I already am in possession of man haircut, it's just getting kind of long and scruffy.

I'm starting to think I should just buy an electric shaver thing and do it myself, because, as awful as I'm sure it would turn out looking, it would save me the godawful anxiety of having to go in for regular trims.
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>>5777916
>just buy an electric shaver thing and do it myself
Do this. It's a lot cheaper and guy haircuts are pretty easy to do and maintain. I do buzz for easy and have started doing the undercut hipster thing because it suits my head. It takes a few minutes and is completely free.

If you mess it up, it grows back very fast. Live and learn.
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>>5777941
Hmm, maybe it's not as hard as I thought. I might give that a try, then. Could probably learn from YouTube videos or something, I guess.
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>>5777961
The wikihow's are also pretty useful. They have step for step stuff.
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>>5776751
Same idc about all these other kids. Yoojung is cute tho desu
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>>5777941
This is some fucking bs don't do this unless you wanna look like a really ugly dyke with an even uglier haircut. It's worth the money to not look like a tool for the months it takes to grow back.
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>>5777291
kek reminds me of >>5774295

Why are some people so fucking stupid. I swear to god.
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>>5777291
Start refusing to accept "his" gender
call him a dyke going too far
start a fucking tranny war
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What drugs are best for escapism, and it can't be alcohol and benzos
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>>5778289
Try video games and 420. Anything harder than alcohol and weed is pretty risky, not worth the escape. Get a new hobby that you can obsess over, etc.
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>>5778289
>>5778289
I am personally a fan of marijuana + opiates, but you should probably stick with just weed, because opiate withdrawal is hell
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>>5772917
I misread your initial post

sorry 'bout that
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I have a question /ftmg/.

I work with a ftm and I like using female pronouns because she is pretty. She gets really mad and accuses me of misgendering her, but come on she looks like a girl. You can't suddenly change your gender identity one day like it's your underwear, right?

She pulled me aside to let me know if I "misgender" her one more time she won't be friends with me anymore.

Why is she being so crazy?
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>>5779153
you bored, anon?
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>>5778258
Top kek

Hey >>5777291 do what ^ said
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>>5778289

i smoke weed a lot, but opiates are my favourite drug... i just try to space it out... or my tolerance gets too high and i end up taking them every day... but yeah, those both work weed is probably the better choice if you need something often...

that's how i see it anyway, and it's what i do personally... i've been smoking weed every day and i'd rather have codeine, and i think about it literally every day but i've only taken it once so far and i could take some easily enough... but yeah...
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>>5779153
it's wrong to call him a she. yes people can change gender identify it's a social construct, not biological. start giving him some respect please and refer to HIM as HE.
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>>5779153

post pics
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>>5779218
>believing gender is a social construct
Then what the fuck is your definition dysphoria? Because if the biological makeup of the gender of your brain and body don't match, that makes you trans. Making gender biological. If it were social, it'd be much either to just choose not to be trans and shit like conversion therapy would actually work.

Go fuck yourself. Is what I'm trying to say here.
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>>5779153
Do they make an effort to look male/tomboy/ect or are they just straight up girlmode
if they're not making any effort at all just call them a girl regardless but if they are be a decent person and respect them

>>5779211
>codeine
my african american brother
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>>5778289
Escape: Escape: Escape: 'eroin, K, DMT, DPT

Marjuwanna, HUFF HUFF HUFF DUSTER, 2 bottles o' DXM and them somem ooooorrreeee DXM
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>>5769891
no, you
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Opinions?

https://youtu.be/Qz39cvkxTzk
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>>5777169
At least if they see your name, coming out is automatic as opposed to forced. Iono, as long as you make them feel like you being trans not a big deal they probably won't freak out, if they recommend against the medical implications you can say you haven't thought about or researched anything yet. If you "change your mind" later, they might feel betrayed, but at least they won't be as surprised when you tell them in the future because they will have already assumed that might be what you want to do.


It's your life, though.
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>>5778289
Escapism isn't worth it. You're not gaining insight, you're driving yourself further from the truth.

You should take 7 g of cubes.
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>>5779933
gender identity stems from a social construct, which is deeply embedded in our psyche and the desire to look a certain way for improved masculinity. this social construct triggers a neurological response when the body characteristic isn't congruent with the umbrella term of what is male, which is biological. if it weren't for the social construct, there would be no societal standard to adhere by. the two are obviously interconnected.

relax sweetie, you still have too much estrogen in your body it seems.
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I have a bit of a weird fear. I'll be starting T soon and my partner is bisexual, but leans only slightly more toward women. I have it stuck in my head that once my voice deepens they're not going to find me attractive anymore.

No amount of fear or any relationship will stop me from transitioning, mind you, but does anyone have any experience with transitioning while you have a partner? How did it go and how did their attraction toward you hold up?
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>>5779933

It's cool that you think 'biological' and 'social' are two separate things but science disagrees.
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>>5777328
you'll want to look into 5-alpha reductase inhibitors
plenty of foods do this, off the top of my head: pumpkin seeds, sprouts, lean meat only (pork, beef, lamb and chicken), various oils (like corn oil, coconut, olive, and canola can also be massaged into the scalp) pomegranates, liver, some cooked seafoods, whole wheat breads and whole grains, brazil nuts, almonds and cashew nuts...oh and make sure you're getting enough vitamins, generally try to eat better with more vegetable fibres and less animal fat and dairy products.
you could also try going to a doctor/ getting yourself some minoxidil or other meds, but diet is the most important factor
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>>5779985

i honestly want it right now, but i'm tryinng to save it for extreme pain or a day i can appreciate it...

>>5780712

no... you

>>5781093

eh drugs can make you think on things more deeply too... and sometimes escapism is necessary at points for some people... can't do something about everything right away may as well be high and happy while you can't...
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>>5781369
>you think 'biological' and 'social' are two separate things but science disagrees
Biology says they are separate. Genetics says they are.

Oh, were you talking about the "sciences" of sociology or psychology?
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>>5781802

Neuroscience, sociology, psychology, mammalian biology, anthropology, all of them pretty much agree on that point. But please, regale us with why you are right and hundreds of thousands of scientists are wrong.
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Has anyone had top surgery with Dr Timothy Alexander? I'm looking for potential surgeons and it looks like either him or Garramone is the best choice but Garramone is really expensive and his results don't seem any better for the massive price difference. Anyway getting reviews online seems really impossible, they're either 1 star "my doctor was literally hitler" or 5/5 stars "my doctor was absolutely a perfect angel," neither say anything consistant or even a little unbiased about either doctor.
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>>5781079
To be honest, I was just planning to never come out to them and run the fuck away. They've been awful to me my entire life, and this would give them a new excuse to be even more awful to me.
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>>5781802

>"sciences" of sociology or psychology?

I'll agree on the sociology point, that's a humanities subject. Psychology on the other hand uses the scientific method and brains scans have shown that, neurologically, there is evidence that transexualism exists in a very real and physical manifestation that goes beyond simple personality, psychopathology and cognition.

So the short of it here is, if he's seen a doctor and they've said "yes you are a tranny here is your complimentary dildo and subscription to faggot news" then I'd rather trust their opinion than yours.
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>>5781802
Gender is a social construct. Sex is biologically determined. There's a difference in terminology.
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How the fuck are you supposed to see if you pass or not? I'm British, people don't sir or ma'am. You're either "mate" or "oi".
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>>5782336
post pics
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>>5782336
My metric was basically, how do people react when I introduce myself with a female name? Then, how do the folks at the food truck or starbucks whatever react when I use a male name?

People got weirder and weirder about female until I couldn't bear the awkwardness around new people and came out.
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>>5782348
Eh, not sure. I know there's a very slim chance of anyone I know browsing the LGBT board of 4chan but still...

>>5782349
Yeah, that sounds sensible. My problem is that when I speak to strangers, I get nervous and when I get nervous, my voice ramps up a few octaves. That would give the game away.
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>>5782409
Since you know you have that problem, you can prepare and remind yourself to bring your voice back home.

As for pics, we're autosaging on page nine so it's a pretty good time if you're going to.
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>>5782420
Good point on both counts. Pls bully responsibly.
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>>5782409
>I get nervous and when I get nervous, my voice ramps up a few octaves.
iktfb
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>>5781248
Then by your logic, gender can be unlearned. Which is the same shit those bible beater fucks believe when they send us to those reprogramming camps. You ignore that there's brain scans that show transgender people have the brains of the sex they weren't born with. Making it biological.

But you know you really are a dumb fucking cunt though. You confuse gender roles with actual gender. Go fucking cry on your tumblr about it then kill yourself. You fucking transtrender bitch.
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>>5782434
You look no more feminine than I did when people began consistently asking me to restate my name at parties. We have a similar bone structure, actually. If your voice is andro range and you act comfortable you should pass with ease.
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>>5782434
I think you pass although your haircut is alittle long and the necklace together make me want to question whether or not you're really a boy. GJ though, I'm jealous of your bone structure.
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>>5782506
>>5782549
Shit, guys. I never thought my bone structure would work for me, fucking stoked to hear it's actually doing me good here. I'll try to keep aware of what my voice is doing and, yeah, probably shed the necklace. Haircut's new so still experimental but easily changed.
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>>5782502
which part of what i said insinuates gender can be unlearned? is it the deeply embedded part? there are transgender brains who show similarities with their experienced gender, but the difference is the determinism of one's biological sex. we're talking about gender identity if you can follow through with all the huffing and puffing.

you seem emotionally immature as you can't seem to carry on a diplomatic discussion with someone who disagrees with you, at least without telling them "kill yourself". i hope you can grow out of that by resisting the bodily pressure to lash out and thinking clearly with your head, sooner than later.
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>>5782549

>necklace = not boy

A lot of guys I know wear some kind of neck thing. I'm hesitant to say half, but.. it's a bunch.
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>>5782740
Idk it really depends on the what's at the end of the chain but to see just the shiny silver chain instead of like a leather strip or black plastic band is pretty feminine
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>>5782761

If it was a thin chain, that's generally feminine. Regular chain can be whatever. This is your daily reminder that being male does not mean you have to be a gym bro with a shark tooth and neck tattoos who starts and ends every sentence with bro, bro.
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im so glad i stopped talking to mtfs
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>>5782724
Then you just don't know what a social construct actually is. Things like the need to wear clothing is a social construct. Even though people can run around naked if they really wanted to. Just like gender ROLES which can be taken on by anyone of any gender if they chose.

But things that are biological, like gender and sexuality or, for comparison, going bald with old age, are not fucking social constructs. It's deeply embedded through, you guessed it BIOLOGY. You fucking moron!
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>>5782761
I dunno if stars are for girls but mine is pretty punk in any case.
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>all this pseudoscience happening

Yes, gender is special and not a bunch of learned memetic behaviours being run by a biocomputer inside a creature with inbuilt desires and ways of acting that inform said memetic behaviours.

No, it's none of that, it's just a simple binary switch and trans are <gender> 'brains' in <other gender> bodies!!!!1111111one. Why? Because.
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>>5782809
i will reiterate since you seem to have a real comprehension problem here. gender identity stems from and is influenced by a social construct. transgender people want to look and behave the opposite of their assigned gender because they are not happy with their assigned characteristics, both physically and socially.

do you know that correlation =/= causation? i'm beggining to think you don't.

>But things that are biological, like gender and sexuality or, for comparison, going bald with old age, are not fucking social constructs.
i find it strange how you are arguing with yourself. i never implied gender identity was biological. please refer me to the post where i did.

>You fucking moron!
i hope you know that your add-on of insults at the end of every post does nothing but create a toxic environment of your own surroundings, albeit it might provide a temporary relief of your internal problems and shortcomings, if you have a lot of them.
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>>5782813

used to wear these on a chain 'til my bird chewed the chain in half, now i just have them on 2 bracelets that were around temporarily... it's the third ring my s/o gave me (i lost the other 2 ... one in a hotel in paris idk where the other went...) and evil eye charms (i had a different set with all the shit from my crib as a kid... like saints medals and a cross and shit... but i lost that in the woods)

i really don't care about whether or not people think anything of them though... sentimental value and whatnot
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>>5778394
Alcohol is already pretty hard on me. I like alcohol and benzos a little too much. Xanax is serene, boring and perfect from the inside, and I'm really charming and attentive about three drinks in. But then, you know...

I respond so unpredictably to the weed I get here. Otherwise I'd smoke more.

>>5778407
>>5779211
In my very limited experience, I don't particularly like the opiates I've tried. They make me feel like my muscles are dripping off of my body. However I do enjoy 50 mg of tramadol. Like xanax it makes me the person I wish I were all the time.

>>5780211
Are you just naming highs

>>5781093
I've never had shrooms (I hope to this summer) but I cut my druggie teeth on LSD. Lots of LSD, and a fair few other psychedelics. I appreciate the sentiment but I know where I am in life familia.
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>>5782969
Whatever then. I can see nothing gets through that thick skull if yours. You ignore every shred of scientific and medical evidence proving you're a fucking idiot. I hope someone rapes and kills your special snowflake ass. Because it's pieces of shit like you who set back transgender rights.
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>>5783389
like in this case, personal attacks are exclusively be reserved for those who can't mount to a legitimate rebuttal.
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>>5783191

they aren't for everyone, but they're my favourite... i've taken coke before but i wouldn't recommend it, and pcp but i also wouldn't recommend it for different reasons... but like other than those and alcohol and benzos i haven't done anything else...

there's always meditation though if you need to clear your head and drugs aren't doing it for you...
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>>5783523
Because there's no getting through to you. All you've done is backpeddal. First you say gender is a social construct. Then you say it isn't and instead that gender behaviors are learned instead. Those are two different things. Which is why you deserve to get raped and murdered by some bible thumping hillbilly. It's backwards shit like that that fucks like you parrot off of Tumblr to sound smart. When all you're doing is fucking shooting the trans community in the foot.

As I said before, go kill yourself.
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>>5783735
Jeez who shit in your spaghetti. I read the argument and you are firing on all cylinders over piddling stuff.
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>>5782434
You make for a very attractive man. And that hair is on point (but a little messy desu).
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>>5783735
Calm down, holy shit.
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