Hello /lgbt. Are non binary genders a real thing? And can someone

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gender is a social construct, so yes, nonbinaries are real.

it's a 4d spectrum you see.

Gender is a spectrum, but with the vast majority of people much closer to pure femininity or pure masculinity than they are to the center. People who don't have a strong identification with either gender are still leaning either male or female. It doesn't make sense to me to identify as agender or bigender or whatever the fuck instead of just as a feminine guy or masculine girl.

I'm willing to admit that maybe the above is me needing to check my privelege, but I'm adamant that genderfluid is just flat out bullshit. An identity is something that's persistent over time. If something as fundamental as your gender changes every day then you belong in a psych ward and should probably be treated for multiple personality disorder

>>5476692
No and no

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>>5476765
Thanks

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>>5476692
No. Gender specials didn't get enough attention being gay/lesbian/bi, so they made up a bunch of bullshit genders to become the specialist and most unique snowflake.

>>5477309
>Gender specials didn't get enough attention being gay/lesbian/bi
Even worse. They're straight girls feeling left out.

>>5476692
Dunno if it counts but there's femgen and other effeminate twinks who take estrogen and might get some mtf procedures, but they do so while insisting that they're just boys and like looking cute.>>5476692

>>5477314
I go to school with a girl who identifies as being both "straight" and "genderfluid." If you are "sometimes male" or whatever, and are attracted to men, how the fuck are you "straight?"
Why do people do this shit? Why has the world come to this?

>>5477335
>Why do people do this shit?
Attention.
"wow, she's so unique and special, just like everyone fucking else on this godforsaken rock."

>Why has the world come to this?
Well because we didn't stop it.

>>5476692
No they're not a real thing, and no you can't be genderfluid. You are still either a man or a woman, whether or not you make up special pronouns for yourself.

>>5477335
Possibly they're attracted to the opposite of whatever they are at a given time. Alternatively, a lot of nb people define their orientation based on either their assigned sex or whichever gender they're "closest" to. Though I still think it really just makes more sense to say "I like men" or "I like women" as that doesn't depend on your own gender.

I want to see persistence of behavior over decades, a biological model for development, and a case size of at least 0.5% of the overall population before I'm willing to accept any deviance from expected sexual and gender configurations. That's just proper and rational skepticism. Trans in a binary system (or at least a gradient system with two poles) passes these rather low standards. An example of population, showing symptoms through out basically all of recorded history, and sourced in an intersex configuration of the brain is provable and reasonable. This fad nonsense, so far, ain't.

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>>5476692
Nope.
You can be a man or a woman, that's it.