Hey, I'm from /pol/ and this is my first post on here.

what state

Get over your internalized homophobia and score some boipussy

>>5463206
Europe. Sorry lad
>>5463208
I have a gf

>>5463201
I am also from /pol/ and I have the same fantasy, except I'm in the submissive role.

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>>5463201
Take pride in being biologically straight. You can slay pussy by birthright. But you know feminists will bring about the habbening. So be gay... by choice. Intentional degeneracy in a targeted attack on the vaginal jew menace. No based sacrifice could be more satisfying.

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>>5463201
Feel bad? Or stop being a faggot?

>>5463201
Where in the eu

>>5463257
France

>>5463201
Man, you might as well accept your past the point of "degeneracy" if you're already masterbating to the idea. Acting on the impulse is just a logical step. You're not some pure exemplar after all, and you're already past that point.

How more degenerate is thought versus the deed?

At least you want to maintain the masculine, penetrative role and aren't fantasizing about taking it up the ass.

Let yourself slide a little. Enjoy a little boy puss every now and then. It may be a little depraved according to your personal morality, but objectively it's just another expression of your manly urge to assert yourself.

>>5463201
so you're bisexual
or at least you enjoy the power dynamics of humiliating sex

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>>5463201
You know, /pol/ should just accept /lgbt/ so we can fight the mudslimes together.

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>>5463330
Hey, qt Nazi girl Moap. Looking smart! How are you today?

>>5463330
If you all looked like /lgbt/ in the comics then there'd be no problem.

Bi /pol/ here yeah I like twinks. But I would at least go for a relationship if they are cute enough :)

>>5463447
Doing pretty good, kinda tired, just got home from the holidays yesterday, how are you Nazi anon?

>>5463462
Nawh I look like a grill.

>>5463494
You trans /pol/?

>>5463491
Another bipol here, would only go for another pol guy that looks like a man and works out his mind and body.

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>>5463503
Sort of, I want to be. Im scared theyre all gonna gas chamber me- On the same note I sure do like white power.

>>5463517
Well honestly twinks tend to be fairly physically fit, and finding one who is at least smart enough to know not to stick a fork in an electrical socket shouldnt be too hard.

>>5463551
Twinks are disgusting, no thanks.

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>>5463494
I'm excellent as always. I sort of opted of Xmas this year. Was your trip long? Any remarkable gifts?

>>5463517
Masc4masc, eh? Good luck with that gay clone zionist shit.

>>5463559
Says you :^)

Oh gosh. I'm bi and this is my fantasy.
>tfw no cute aryan bf to dominate

>>5463565
I don't know what madc4masc means, but no thank you on twinks.

>>5463548
As long as you're pro-white it's fine.
I'd protect you in the race war.

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>>5463565
I had a pretty nice christmas, it was tiring because I spend the entire time helping my mom and get brother ready to host family- but other then that it was good. I was only gone for about a week-

I got a sewing machine and Ugg boots, and a few other smaller things.

You do anything for the holidays then? I get the not celebrating Christmas, Im not religious myself.

>>5463548
Don't worry sweetie. The gas chambers weren't for killing anything other than lice.

>>5463594
Sounds like a nice christmas. I got a LoR for college, art of the deal, Crippled America, some socks, and some stripper clips.

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>>5463594
That' sounds cozy. You sew a lot do you? Useful skill. I skipped the religious and secular as much as possible. I just wasn't feeling it. Awkward with people who want to exchange presents anyway.

>>5463623
Art of the Deal. Oh man. Trump is really running Barter Town now. Mixed feelings on that.

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>>5463591
Yay! Id cook and clean for you whilst you murdered the subhumans and then keep you warm at night.

>>5463596
It's so true, I hope I get to live to the day that we admit all the holocaust shit was a lie.

>>5463623
Stripper clips? Also what school are you trying to get into?

>>5463658
Hey it may be trump but honestly it is pretty good for learning how to get your way in negotiation or at least it's confidence booster for it I guess.

>>5463669
Stripper clips for my sks.

Some UCs and a couple Cal States

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>>5463658
Not as much as I should, but Im trying to get better at it as an adult. Fixing my own clothes is the extend of my sewing ability for now. And yeah, its weird, all my family is Christian save my dad though so I just go along with it.

>>5463685
Oh, you mean like the rifle? I wanted to get a bolt action 5.56 this year but never got around to it, Ive always wanted a rifle but all I have is a shotgun, Id go buy a cheap moist nugget but I want it to hit what I shoot at and a moist nugget would bust up my shoulder. And Im too weak to really fire the shotgun too, 12 gauges wreck me every time I shoot them.
Do you have a pistol? My everyday carry is a .40 beretta.

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>>5463669
Stripper clips hold rounds (like a magazine) until ready to load. Seen on some old rifles.

>>5463675
Honest question: does it explain Trump's speaking style of stream-of-consciousness dick swinging? I'm not saying I hate the guy, but he's a human meme and it boggles me.

>>5463720
If you want a good fairly cheap rifle for general combat get a yugo sks or a chinese one.

Are you looking for a utility rifle, combat rifle, or a target shooting rifle?

Im 18 so I dont carry but I do have a m1911 for that.

>>5463729
>human meme

I will agree with you on that anon but art of the deal doesnt have the dick swinging like crippled america does if thats what youre asking.

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>>5463720
Christian family. Fixing your own clothes while heavily armed. You sound like a country girl. I'd consider a pistol caliber carbine if I were you. Maybe even pairing with the .40. You may not believe me, but the Kel-Tec is nice if you can find it.

>>5463744
Haha. It wasn't what I was asking, but OK.

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>>5463741
Maybe, I'll probably just save up the cash and have a friend take me to a gunshow and just browse what they have there.

I want something thats accurate more than anything, so that's why I wanted bolt action. I want a 5.56 because I can fire a 5.56 comfortably without hurting my shoulder. I guess Id just it for everything, hunting, target shooting, and combat if I ever find myself there.

Here in AZ you can open carry a pistol at 18, you just cant buy them or ammo for them yet. You can always get around that at gunshows, though.

>>5463786
I'm a califag so that is why I can't carry yet lol.

If you want a good rifle in .556 I would say get an AR simply because of how universal the gun is.

If you want something a bit more powerful I'd say bump it up to an AK or sks in 7.63x39 but if shooting does hurt I wouldnt go much higher in caliber than that.

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>>5463773
A little bit, and maybe on the pistol carbine. Ill have to do some research into them, but pistol ammo is a lot cheaper than rifle ammo so that'd be nice.

>>5463823
AR does seem reasonable, my buddy's older brother got a nice suped up one for Christmas and we were checking it out when I went over to his house. Thing had a scope, three laser sights, and flashlight, collapsible stock, it was pretty sick.

The issue is I want a bolt action...

>>5463853

Well for bolt action .556 I believe mossberg makes good ones but they are a bit expensive. Try looking at gun shows for them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kDWaXxtCwI

In this video is a ruger .556 bolt action.

>>5463823
Going 7.62 usually isn't worth it these days. The cost advantage is gone for a lot of folks. It's better at penetrating and shattering cover. I would take it over 5.56 for larger game hunting. But the kick is a lot more in most rigs. Moap is a dainty grill, remember.

>>5463786

>AZ

M E S A
E
S
A

For real though where in AZ I know some shops that are good

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>>5463201

Anon, stop making us look gay by crossboarding here.

PS: I am 100% straight and only clicked on the link for this board by accident, white power.

>>5463879
Im sorry for shilling 7.62 but that is the go to in my area. Mostly because of shit restrictions but thats it.

And generally the kick in an sks isnt too bad. But I can see why it could be an issue after repeated use.

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>>5463893
I grew up in Mesa, I was literally just there to visit my family for Christmas. Im in Flagstaff now.

>>5463201
Did any of this help, Op?
This one probably right?
>>5463231
That one was good.

>>5463895
You'll be back after the degenerate porn stirs your aryan soul.

>>5463853
So why bolt action only? Any wiggle room for lever?

>>5463913

There's definitely less shops in Flag than in the valley and I would actually suggest buying off of armslist or at a show if you don't wanna get ripped off

>>5463952

>You'll be back after the degenerate porn stirs your aryan soul.

I-It's not like I like you guys or anything, baka

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>>5463952
Yeah, a show seems like the best option here. The valley is far better for that kind of stuff.

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>>5463952
Well, Ive heard bolt action is the most accurate. Lever would be neat but Ive never fired one before.

>>5463988

Accuracy for anyone but robots is negligible for modern guns, bolt lever or semi you're gonna get the same level of accuracy out of them unless you're some kind of marksman god. Also semi autos are usually lighter on the recoil since there is more reciprocating mass to absorb the impact

>>5463975
What's not to like about open-minded Nazis? Basically perfect husband material is what I am. Oh yeah. You know it, bb.

>>5463988
Well kinda, but it doesn't matter much unless you're going to be sniping lizards at a thousand meters. It's cool, but not a huge factor. Nothing beats practice. Get something you are excited to use on the range.

>>5463215
>gf
Why have one when you can get two twice the price, only you must keep this one secret

>>5464337
Very halal anon.

>>5464337
Oh no, it's the downlow battlefield gay clone sex doesn't count guy.

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>>5463988
OK, we'll sort out the rifle choice later. Here's my name if the thread gets deleted for being too awesome again.

>>5464459
Polgbt never gets deleted the number of people that like it is yuuuuuuge

>>5464760
Ok, Trump pal. Are you an artist? Wanna make some more polgbt comics? The kids love will love you for it.

Im on Ipad lol I'd freehand it but I dont know how good I'd do. I could write you a script if you'd like. Im just watching pulp fiction right now anyway.

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Bumping with polgbt

>>5464835
Well OK. What's your story pitch?

>>5464774
We could get Trump to fund it as part of his lgbt outreach program.

>>5464863
A continuation to the innawoods one. Where /pol/ threw that brick with the letter threw the window and he is coming to get him to actually flee from the feminists. Dont know if its good but its what I can think of right now

>>5463895
/lgbt/ is next to /y/ and /hm/...

Whatever you say 100% straight friend

This thread makes me want to buy a mosin and practice with it

>>5463201
Getting drunk OP. Wish I just had someone to hold or hold me. Or mutual hold. Just tired of not feeling the embrace of a person for over a year or two.

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>>5464954
Do it bro heres some info for you

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>>5464962
Whatcha drinking senpai?

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>>5464962
It's OK, pal. No more tears. We're here now.

>>5464963
>>5464954
Cool pieces for collecting, but are there any reliable sources for cheap weapons anymore? The Mosin-Nagant goldrush has been over for a while.

>>5464906
Sounds cool. Will there be a happy ending?

>>5464974
Steel Reserve. Nothing impressive anon. I just like the way the Pineapple tastes.

>>5464988
Of course there will be a happy ending. They get innawoods.

>>5465003
Prequels. If I got serious I'd collect them all and pin up a continuity chart. I feel like we can just keep it to vignettes showcasing the artist's vision. Head canon is best anyway.

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>>5464988
fantastic comic

>tfw that relationship is so cute

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>>5463330
this

we need to end /lgbtdiscrimination/ so we can go discriminate against the shitskins who actually deserve it

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>>5465033
Heres the first part

>>5465035
how is it good lol
"men can terraform mars and women can't function independently"? it has no basis for a plot which makes it cringe-fantasy tier

>>5465062
Butthurt feminist can't handle the truth. Women may be able to multi-task. That is only because they are busy throwing social jabs at other women though. Their multi-tasking isn't actually useful. In fact, it is a hindrance to society.

>>5465062
I think he meant the whole premise was cute. Not for plot necessarily, for fluff. Like your average romantic comedy its meant not to give plot but a fluffy love story.

>>5465067
there is such a negligible difference in the male and female brain that drawing these sorts of conclusions is inevitably hilarious

do i need to pick anecdotes or statistics?

>>5465076
You can pick either, at the end of the day I am talking psychological trends. Women are generally speaking better at multi-tasking.

>The goo doesn't matter as much as how it is used.

>>5465050
Uhuh, I've seen that one. I prefer the version without the breakup brick and the fetal position ending. It just ends with the cozy moment. I believe there's another one where Lgbtan breaks up with Pol.

>>5465075
You got it.

>>5465076
Don't you ever sleep, Radfem Guy? You're figuratively shitting on love right now. Literally. New low, man.

>>5465091
oh please i'm the physical embodiment of lgbtan and i hate women but this is just retarded

>>5465096
That's the point. It's a romantic comedy. You think any man would but with Amy Schumer in real life? No. RomCom logic. Go knot yourself with a dog dildo and relax, gurl.

>>5465104
if it's romcom it's not good romcom

>>5465114
It isn't a major production you fucking mong. It was produced for the boards. Literaly board mascot love on a Cambodian Cave Painting site. It was done for fun, not for release and pointless critique. This isn't the fucking Mona Lisa.

>>5465116
Anon has a point this is cheeky cracker jack box stuff we have not Stan Lee shit.

>>5465114
Make something better. Literally whip out your artfag shit and make a better comic. Post it here. Get on that right now or the knot is never coming out.

>>5465140
i don't give a shit enough about enjoying ironically toxic relationships to script yaoi webcomics

>>5465147
see
>>5465114
>>5465096
>>5465076
>>5465062

This means you just enjoy shitposting then. Get bent faggot.

>I don't care about enjoying web comics
>This one is shit from my evaluation

If you hate them, we can just ignore your opinion. Thanks for the update anon.

>>5465155
Well done. You get low quality trolling this time of day. Back to business, boys. Progress reports tomorrow.

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>>5465155
as much as i'd love to get bent, it's an objectively bad webcomic

>>5464337
Dr Arroway, how kind of you to call.

>>5465162
>This isn't the actual b8
>Nice try mate.

>>5465166
No one argued that except you. The others said it was good because it was fun and cute. Not held to objective standards and therefore good. You just waltzed in like the pretentious poster you are and shit all over everything.

>>5465178
no there was another anon who agreed with me

i'm just pointing out how bad the comics are and how awful it makes polgbt look

>>5465189
Are you implying it ever actually looked good?

>My apologies for missing the other anon, drunk as fuck over here. You are bearing the brunt of my pointless drunken rage after a long day of work. I am defending a pointlessly cute web comic on the grounds that it makes my fee fees go YAY!. You hate it therefore you must die.

After drunken rant, I think the web comic itself makes it look great. Because it doesn't make it serious or heavy of heart. It keeps it light hearted, and whimsical.

>>5465178
I don't bait. I provide unwavering leadership and intoxicating patriarchal dick aromas. Now I suggest you ignore that lazy troll. Not even Jew I think. Probably somekindamexican.

>>5465205
polgbt is actually very real and i don't hate it

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>>5465213
I don't hate it either. I just don't go around lambasting web comics that are shit to me while others are trying to enjoy something. You could have just pointed people to a better one. Or better green text, or pretty much anything other than needlessly degrade people for enjoying something.

>>5465209
>Pic related

>>5465224
i will not suffer the iniquities of mediocrity slandering my relationship tbqh

>>5465232
>Waifu defense force: Active?

I guess I can see where you are coming from. But going off what you just said. Why didn't you just recommend something better?

>>5465238
because there is nothing better that i know of

>>5465241
So in the pool of quality. It is the best out there of polgbt? I mean as I said above, this isn't the fucking Mona Lisa. It really is niche. Although I think the caricatures of the two could enter normal society and make it big. The dynamic would be great for TV.

>>5465244
greentexts are as good as it's going to get lad

>>5465252
Pretty much, still doesn't say much about the web comic as its quality as a niche web comic on a niche website though. From the pool of candidates to produce it, it probably is truly high quality in comparison.

Hi there Joshua Schnepp.

Apparently someone added some new OC of /pol/ tan
http://shimmie.4chanhouse.org/index.php?q=/post/view/6076

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>>5463201
>>5463231
>>5463330

/tv/ here. You guys are fucking weird.

>>5465468
Half tempted to go to /tv/ just for the tr8r memes

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>>5465470
It's one of the most pretentious boards on this site, but the memes are dank.

>>5465477
I'll take your dubs as truth.

I don't know what you're on about OP. I'm "from /pol/" too but I don't feel bad about wanting to ruin a femboy/tranny. I have like 2 trannies I meet with regularly and they just worship my dick (I'm a big guy for you) nothing else.

I mean just because you think lgbt shit shouldn't be promoted by society doesn't mean you can't bust a nut you know what I'm saying

Everyone does that sometime
It has more to do with your pedophilia urges than homosexual ones

>>5463988
>>5463853
>>5463786
>>5463823

>tfw a qt twink will never threaten to shoot me with their big gun

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>/lgbt/ actually prefers to side with literal neo-nazis who would literally mass-execute them, instead of feminists who DARE criticize a few aspects of a few LGBT sub-subcultures

>>5466365
That says more about feminists than /lgbt/.

>>5466438

Did you just imply that feminists are literally worse than neo-nazis?

Because that's something only the criminally insane would say.

>>5466438

>kill all the gays! Hang all fags and burn their families!
>some aspects of social behavior in our community could probably be improved

>hmmm which do I choose?

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>>5466365
And don't you forget it.

<3 /polgbt/

>>5466588
I see nothing wrong with this.

>>5465468
We're the creative kids. With our imagination power and playful loathing, we don't need your electric jew.

>>5465477
Is that funny? I didn't see the movie and I'm not 15. So honestly not sure of dankness.

>>5466365
Sick burn, gurl. Also daily reminder Nazi Qt PolGBTeam is an inclusive group. We take EVERYONE... who isn't a political lesbian.

>>5463201
If you guys would allow trannies in the midst I'd be very happy. The only difference between me and a femboy is how far we take the practice of being feminine.

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>>5466702
We do take trannies. This is the classically liberal branch of the gun totting nuclear family conservatives. We're like Vermont.


Oh also, how you doin?

>>5466115
>tfw no qt twink to prep for the happening with.

>>5466365
Not my problem we aren't afraid of a bit of dutch oven.

>>5466365
Feminists like you only when you serve them. A woman will never know what it's like to be a gay man just like gay man will never know what it's like to be a woman. I don't side with anyone.

>>5467232
This. Feminists are like ticks they only like you when you have life force to steal

>>5466692
>Sick burn, gurl. Also daily reminder Nazi Qt PolGBTeam is an inclusive group. We take EVERYONE... who isn't a political lesbian.
Don't you guys think trannies are degenerate?

>>5467232
Yeah but feminist ideology isn't inherently opposed to LGBT. Extreme right-wing ideology is.

>>5467279
Trannies tend to have severe mental health issues which is why most are disgusted with them. A hon with tits and possible mutilation is the total opposite of exalting and elevating the male form (or even the female form, for that matter) so it's viewed as impure which is a big no-no for /pol/. They like their boys to be boys and their girls to be girls, which is why a slightly feminine twink is about as far as most will go.

>>5467283
"Extreme right-wing" can be so many things. It's extremely rare to be "extreme right-wing" to begin with. What is extreme right-wing in Europe is completely different in USA. In europe the most far right people hate EU more than homosexuals. The good thing about let's say centre right is that it's about personal responsibility, so you won't be pampered for being gay but you have the possibility to make your status what you want.

And if we view it from Democrats VS Republicans point of view, those have lost their meaning. It's because there's basically only two parties someone like Donald Trump must run as a Republican when he's far from the other people involved in the party, while Hillary Clinton is closer to a moderate Republican and Sanders is the only truly left-wing candidate.

>>5467283
Which ideology tells people how they should live?
[spoilerz] both [spoilerz]
LGBT is about the freedom to be and love according to our hearts. Not according to some ivory tower politico with a book to sell.

>>5467279
Some /pols guys really do. Most fap to the porn anyway -- guaranteed. I think you're fine as long as you're not a nutjob screaming at people about unrealistic expectations. Also it would be cool if more of you were in to frotting. It seems like a nice way to get to know people.

Whatever it is, both are just bankers' slaves except for Trump and Sanders who represent the more old-fashioned views of their parties while being revolutionary. Whatever party it is most people don't give a fuck about gays these days, they acknowledge that homosexuals are people that exist and whatever is their personal opinion of them is meaningless because it has so little to do with today's politics. If you can make money with it, it works either way and you definitely can make money with gays. The only people that still do care(in West) are Christian Democrats(for example Angela Merkel) and the former Eastern Bloc countries that were part of extreme LEFT Soviet Union. You don't want to hate right wing, you want to hate extreme authoritarians and the radical feminism goes there too.

>>5467345
>LGBT is about the freedom to be and love according to our hearts.

Parts of LGBT contains practices that ultimately hurt people.

That is the whole thing feminism is criticizing. Feminism is inherently based on human well-being. (Radical feminism specifically asks for such cultural changes that would additionally end oppression of men under patriarchy.) The way I see it, the reason it started out as *fem*inism is that while men are *ultimately* oppressed too, they nevertheless were standing above women in the hierarchy, as a class...

Anyway, the TL;DR is that feminism is concerned explicitly with human well-being whereas LGBT is concerned with individual sexual freedom, irrespective of over-arching cultural problems. So LGBT ends up embracing some cultural practices that are ultimately hurtful, such as normalization of sexual violence. Instead of deconstructing heteronormative dominance/submission based sex, you adopt it into e.g. gay male culture and assign men dom/sub roles, imitating and embracing the very heteronormativity that actually always oppressed you...

(Liberal feminism too makes some of the same mistakes, actually. Radical all the way, sis/bruh.)

>>5467467
>you adopt it into e.g. gay male culture and assign men dom/sub roles
And butch/femme in lesbian culture.

>>5467467
>gay male culture and assign men dom/sub roles
pssst, people assign themselves roles. You can find two butch guys going at it in a "manly man" club as often as you find two femmy twinks enjoying the switch. You're busy crusading against people's individual preferences and making blanket statements which is why people hate you.

>>5463201
sorry anon but you have to gas yourself, what would hitler and garrison think???

>>5467485
>individual choices are made in a social and cultural vacuum
OK buddy.

>>5467637
>m-muh social construct
Nice way tot totally ignore the fact that people make their own identities and associate with whomever they please, nobody has a gun to their head.

Well, at least until the femycysts & SJWs came onto the scene.

>>5467679
>social constructs don't exist because I say so
People do have free will, but social constructs and social norms do exist, and do influence behavior. And "nobody has a gun to their head?" Well okay it's not like the thought police follow you around 24/7 waiting to blow your brains out, but people have been killed or seriously injured for failing to conform. That's kind of the basis of violence directed at LGBT people.

>>5467467
I appreciate that this is close to your heart and from your view you can't understand why you aren't being "greeted as liberators."

But, you're literally deconstructing and telling people how they should live and like what you like. You're not tearing down walls to free people. You're razing to build your philosophical ideal.

>>5466795
>we're like vermont
north or south? because my lord is there a difference in burlington and bellows falls

>>5467711
>but social constructs and social norms do exist
Because they're willingly continued by people who like them.
>Well okay it's not like the thought police follow you around 24/7
They will if sick people like you have their way.
>but people have been killed or seriously injured for failing to conform.
Yeah, and they've been killed or seriously injured for their possessions or for no reason at all. People are responsible for defending themselves and forming communities of like-minded individuals. Your nanny-state mind-policing has no place anywhere.

>>5467751
>Because they're willingly continued by people who like them.
And if the people who like them outnumber those who don't, what are the non-conformists supposed to do? They fight against the norms, but they can't enact any real change.

>Yeah, and they've been killed or seriously injured for their possessions or for no reason at all. People are responsible for defending themselves and forming communities of like-minded individuals. Your nanny-state mind-policing has no place anywhere.
How are you supposed to defend yourself when the vast majority of people around you think you should be killed for violating social norms?

>>5467731
That's a great question. And I am not afraid to say that I... will delegate that to you, by asking what's the difference? (IDK.)

>>5467805
oh my god there are so many trump-shouting rifle-touting orbs of cellulose encased in F150s and Tacomas down here I want to PURGE anon I WANT TO PURGE

>>5467773
>what are the non-conformists supposed to do?
Form their own communities and not bother anyone else. You know, like everyone else who has to find a job and move somewhere they feel comfortable.
>How are you supposed to defend yourself when the vast majority of people around you
Guess what, if you find yourself in the middle of a community that doesn't suit you, you don't make any waves and live quietly until you have the opportunity to move somewhere that does suit you, like everyone else does. Anti-discrimination laws aren't going to save you from someone who wishes violence upon you in the first place. Anti-violence laws sure as hell don't. You keep a gun and avoid trouble, that's the only guarantee. Use your head.

>>5467848
>Form their own communities and not bother anyone else. You know, like everyone else who has to find a job and move somewhere they feel comfortable.
Not everyone has the resources to move out to somewhere safe.

>Guess what, if you find yourself in the middle of a community that doesn't suit you, you don't make any waves and live quietly until you have the opportunity to move somewhere that does suit you, like everyone else does. Anti-discrimination laws aren't going to save you from someone who wishes violence upon you in the first place. Anti-violence laws sure as hell don't. You keep a gun and avoid trouble, that's the only guarantee. Use your head.
A gun won't do you any good when there are five guys who want you dead and they all have guns. You have no meaningful deterrent against them. The idea behind anti-discrimination laws is that the GOVERNMENT does have a meaningful deterrent against them. That's the whole point of government - without it would just end up being might makes right.

>>5464954
Nah nigga those are trash save up and get a good AK or AR expect to pay 1k for a good raifu.

>>5467874
there's something to be said for a wooden bolt action rifle and its class
if i owned a weapon i'd look at it more than i'd shoot it haha

>>5467821
Based Vermont~

>>5467887
do you live here? lol

It's dangerous when some other group starts "liberating" other group even when they never even asked for it
You get results like prostitution ban in Thailand or the chaos in Syria
Once feminists learn to mind their own business I'll tolerate them, stay away from homosexuality

Why doesnt /pol/ team up with us? We hate alot of the same shit.

>>5467714
>if I spout enough buzzwords people will think I'm intelligent

>>5467895
This guy gets it.

>>5467899
Literally what I've been doing for days. The inclusive habbenin is habbenin, pal.

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>>5467884
Then i would go with a German Mauser variant, a Springfield 1903 or an Enfield of some sort. The quality will be much better.
Though ammo is abundant for the nugget they are getting expensive for what you get. You can never go wrong with an M1 Garand though it is the most boner inducing raifu there is.

>>5467899
/pol/ literally wants you gassed.

>>5467679
Nice job not countering anything I said.
You cannot simply wish away your cultural surroundings and claim that every thought coming to your mind is rooted solely in your purely self-owned and self-defined identity.
Everything you ever learned in life, you learned from your social surroundings.

>>5467859
>Not everyone has the resources to move out to somewhere safe.
You do if you work and have some sort of basic education, stop making excuses. Like I said there are plenty of people who are thrown out at 18 and have to swim on their own.
>A gun won't do you any good when there are five guys who want you dead and they all have guns. You have no meaningful deterrent against them.
Oh yes it will. Imagine you're one of those five guys, are you going to be more gung-ho to attack someone who is unarmed or someone who might drop you? Also, it goes back to not making waves. If you're in some place where people are murderous towards homosexuals it's probably better NOT to flaunt it until you move out. Common sense. Like I said, murder laws don't stop people from murdering. Punishing after the fact is a formality to the dead person.
>That's the whole point of government - without it would just end up being might makes right.
See, that's what you don't get. The cops getting there 30 min after you're dead doesn't mean anything, the government cannot protect you. If you try to push laws through that force people to do certain things, like forcing bakeries to serve certain people they don't want to, guess what, you're creating silent resentment instead of just GTFO and going somewhere safe that understands you. That's even more dangerous, because you're living under the false assumption that just because the gubbmint says so people are going to change. Again, murder laws don't stop murder do they?

>>5467914
springfields and garands are nice
i don't like enfields. something about the sound.
what do you mean by a mauser variant? because i'd like a kar98k or something
i don't know too much about guns

>>5467895
>"liberating" other group even when they never even asked for it
When ever did feminists do this?
Sex workers almost all want to get out of prostitution, and the prostitutes who want to get out are exactly the ones feminists are working with and for.

>>5467919
And not everyone is powerful enough to simply "choose" not to be affected by social norms. Even if they WANT to defy norms, not everyone has the freedom to do so safely.

>>5467903
If I wanted wanted that I'd use my real name and do this IRL. I don't because I want avoid triggering people like you who will think I'm some fancy collegeboy faggot and badger me to solve math problems for their amusement. This is my autistic safe space. Feel free to filter both my trips.

>>5467919
>You cannot simply wish away your cultural surroundings and claim that every thought coming to your mind is rooted solely in your purely self-owned and self-defined identity.
Sure you can. A gay person knows they're gay even if they're living somewhere that frowns upon that sort of thing. Stop making excuses for claiming your sovereign power to be who you want to be. You cannot change others, you can only change yourself.

>>5467928
>Sex workers almost all want to get out of prostitution
Thailand had huge economic boost thanks to sex work, they also managed to create good rights for the sex workers. But the western feminist attacked once again and started forcing their ideals on them. They always have this "I know better what's good for you" mindset. With gays too, god forbid if you're gay and vote for Republican they attack you immediately because you don't have the same exact values as they do.

>>5467921
>Punishing after the fact is a formality to the dead person.
It's also a very strong deterrent to others who would consider committing similar crimes.

>Again, murder laws don't stop murder do they?
They don't stop EVERY murder, but most murderers are not suicidal maniacs who just want to kill you no matter the cost to themselves. They usually murder to fulfill some kind of goal for themselves. A goal which does not include spending the rest of their life in prison. Some murders will still happen, but if the chance if getting caught and punished is high enough, people will be more likely to judge it not worth the effort.

>>5467925
Yes the K98 is one of them but you can't go wrong with the Model 1898 the Model M or S either. Though they can require a little more research in ammo iirc they shoot 7mm and I think there is one that is 8mm and if I am not going full retard it is the K98.

>>5467891
Not at all, I live in the multicultural hell that is Florida, it's just awesome to know Trump has a large support in the New England area

>>5467940
That's not what they're talking about. They're talking about cases where people will kill you for being gay. No matter how hard you CHOOSE to not get killed for being gay, doesn't give you the power to prevent people from killing you for being gay.

>>5467949
So it's okay for sex workers to suffer against their will as long as it's good for the economy? I mean, slavery was good for the American South's economy, that doesn't make it a good thing.

>>5467956
okay but if i get a gun it can't have expensive or rare ammo you know?

>>5467958
they're just vocal supporters. vermont is and always has been the most progressive state and will no doubt come out in droves for sanders

>>5467953
>It's also a very strong deterrent to others
Not really. Knowing you're going after someone who is armed is a deterrent. Murderous people just think "I can get away with it" (if they even think about it at all).

>>5467940
>A gay person knows they're gay even if they're living somewhere that frowns upon that sort of thing.
What does this have to do with any of what others have said?
A gay person living in a culture where western-style LGBT does not exist, will not start idealizing the exact dom/sub dynamics in western-style gay porn/culture. (Assuming their culture doesn't have their own version of it.)
A woman living in 15th century China will never, ever have the idea to wear stockings, high-heels, and color her hair blonde.

>>5467970
Why are you under the assumption that all sex workers suffer? Oh right, because feminists ALWAYS know better.

http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/dec/17/thai-sex-industry-private-arts-bangkok-this-is-us-museum-chantawipa-apisuk

>>5467976
>Murderous people just think "I can get away with it" (if they even think about it at all).
They're not going to think that if there's a very high chance of murderers getting caught. Why would they worry about getting shot but not worried about spending life in prison?

>>5467970
>No matter how hard you CHOOSE to not get killed for being gay, doesn't give you the power to prevent people from killing you for being gay.
I already gave two practical solutions to this. One, arm yourself. Two, don't tell people you're gay if you live in homophobe murderville. Like I said, the law is not going to protect you from a nutjob who hates you that much anyway.

>>5467973
Check out WASR10 look for a good one AK food is cheap as all hell right now.
Same for AR food which is why I say you can;t go wrong with either of those ^_^

>>5467949

Even without looking into the topic, I can be 90% sure that those in support of this "sex work" were pimps, brothel owners, business owners and governments who want more tourism, and not the countless prostituted women and children.

But if you have any data on interviews done personally with the prostituted women, and I mean really those in every cheapest brothel out there, then link me right to it.

>>5467985
Because that's what the other anon claimed. I don't mean to make any independent claim as to whether they suffer or not; but you sounded like you were saying "Oh, they don't want to keep doing sex work? Too bad, they have to keep suffering because it's good for the economy."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Prostitution_and_crime_in_Thailand

>Thailand is listed by the UNODC as both a top destination for victims of human trafficking and a major source of trafficked persons.[46]

>According to the US-based research institute “Protection Project”, estimates of the number of children involved in prostitution living in Thailand ranges from 12,000 to the hundreds of thousands (ECPAT International).

Regulation is known to be ineffective in fighting the harms that seem to be, empirically, inherent in prostitution.

>>5467991
>They're not going to think that if there's a very high chance of murderers getting caught.
Which is why we still have murders/assaults all over the place, right? Murderers are not rational people. And plenty get away with it because their victims had little defense against their weapon.
>>5467982
>will not start idealizing the exact dom/sub dynamics
Yes they will. Some people like being feminine and taking it up the ass. That's THEIR choice. Nobody says "ok, here's how to be gay, and now you're a bottom here's your certificate".

>>5468028
>Yes they will. Some people like being feminine and taking it up the ass. That's THEIR choice. Nobody says "ok, here's how to be gay, and now you're a bottom here's your certificate".
The only shared condition of male homosexuality is an interest in other male bodies.
Look at gay communities who don't embrace heteronormative dom/sub relations, or even fucking chimps and bonobos, if you want to see natural homosexuality.

>>5467992
The law is going to make an example of that nutjob so that others are less likely to try it. Part of the government's job is to keep the people safe. You're saying the government shouldn't try to do that becaus it's not 100% effective. Not to mention making an argument that's basically "Well, if people are being murdered for being gay, why don't they stop being gay?". Sure, if they were trying to force their lifestyle on other people, it would make sense to tell them to stop. They're not. They're just trying to practice freedom of expression, something which you for some reason think they shouldn't be entitled to.

>>5468028
>Which is why we still have murders/assaults all over the place, right? Murderers are not rational people. And plenty get away with it because their victims had little defense against their weapon.
If murderers were not punished, we'd see a lot more murders.

>>5468036
>The only shared condition of male homosexuality is an interest in other male bodies.
There you go with your blanket statement bullshit again. Guess what, some people are switches, some people are exclusive tops/bottoms, and some people prefer to frot. Either way, THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT. Get over yourself and your "heteronormative" groupthink bullshit.

>>5467982
>A gay person living in a culture where western-style LGBT does not exist, will not start idealizing the exact dom/sub dynamics in western-style gay porn/culture.
It has nothing to do with LGBT culture, it's a traditional marriage setting in general. Lot of people want to live in the relationship where the other person is masculine and dominating and other one is effeminate and submissive.

They have same thing in Japan too:
https://lesbianjapan.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/boi-tachi-and-femme-neko/

>>5468039
>The law is going to make an example of that nutjob so that others are less likely to try it.
A gun will make them less likely to try it. If they've resolved to kill someone, "life in prison" isn't going to deter them. They've already crossed that line.
>>5468048
>If murderers were not punished, we'd see a lot more murders.
Not likely. You have a chance of getting away from clumsy police, you don't have much of a chance if your victim is armed. Again, this is also assuming muderers are all rational and care about anything other than, y'know, murdering which is their fucking priority.

>>5468051
>THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT
They do what they've seen others do which they like most.
The representation of said other people in media heavily affects how the people sympathizing with them shape their own identity.

It's amazing that I have to explain to someone that the culture in which a person has grown up and lives does, indeed, deeply affect them.

>>5468054
Yes, most cultures are heteronormative. Doesn't change my point.

>>5468077
>A gun will make them less likely to try it. If they've resolved to kill someone, "life in prison" isn't going to deter them. They've already crossed that line.
That implies that wanting to kill someone is their ONLY desire, that they'd give literally anything to make that person dead. If they're willing to risk life in prison for it, they'd also be willing to risk getting shot for it. And there's a better chance of sneaking up on your victim and shooting them before they can react, then there is of escaping from prison.

The worst mistake gays did after the gay liberation was letting lesbians and feminism stick with them.

>>5468105
gr8 b8 m8

>>5468079
>They do what they've seen others do which they like most.
They do what they like most. Period, full stop. Young adults have been discovering sex on their own for all of known history, even in times/places where it was kept very private and out of public life/media.
>It's amazing that I have to explain to someone that the culture in which a person has grown up and lives does, indeed, deeply affect them
It doesn't override their sense of self unless they let it. "I don't like this" is a common reaction if something doesn't fit, and you naturally find ways to get what you want. That's life. You aren't going to enforce your views on everyone, ever, so you should probably drop that delusion before it comes back to bite you in the ass.

>>5468122
>It doesn't override their sense of self unless they let it. "I don't like this" is a common reaction if something doesn't fit, and you naturally find ways to get what you want. That's life. You aren't going to enforce your views on everyone, ever, so you should probably drop that delusion before it comes back to bite you in the ass.
However, there are still other people who want to use power to enforce the norms on us, even if we ourselves don't follow those norms.

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Really glad my PolGBTeam qts are sharpening themselves in debate against wild lvl 1 feminist authoritarians.

Keep up the great work!

>>5468099
>hat implies that wanting to kill someone is their ONLY desire, that they'd give literally anything to make that person dead.
That's usually the mindset someone is in if they're angry enough to take a life. If they're just a cold-blooded psychopath doing it for fun then they'll do it anyway and take pride in outsmarting the cops. Either way, a person is not in a healthy state of mind when they're thinking that way and laws don't do shit unless a cop is standing right there.

>>5468122
>They do what they like most. Period, full stop.
This is wrong.
People are influenced by what they see around them. A ton.

There needs to be one who chases and one who's being chased. Complete equality is utopia.

>>5468138
>However, there are still other people who want to use power to enforce the norms on us
Just like you want to enforce your norms on others?

>>5467909
>>5468147
Remember to report the crossboaridng shitposters, everyone.

>>5468171
>crossboaridng
dfgfdfg
You know what I mean.

>>5463330
THIS.

It's hard to be /polgbt/ with all the right wingers being homophobe and therefore the majority of fags being leftists ;-;

Right wing should accept faggots and then everything would be finde.
They don't have to worry since the fags don't interfere with their gene-pool too.

>>5468153
>People are influenced by what they see around them
People make their own decisions. It's called discernment. If someone wants to try something out, they will. If they don't like it, you can tie them to a chair and force them to watch something over and over and they'll hate it even more. You seem to think people are just jelly who have zero self-drive or personality and just do whatever people tell them to. Projecting?

>>5468190
>People make their own decisions.
With the influence of things they see around them.

Do you know why companies are pouring tons and TONS of money into advertisement?

>>5468148
They may not be in a completely healthy state of mind, but that doesn't mean they're completely disconnected from the cost/benefit analysis which guides all human actions. And if they are in some sort of mindless bloodthirsty rage, the fear of getting shot won't do much to stop them either. The only way it will stop them is if you wound them bad enough to immediately incapacitate them. In that case, it's obviously not functioning as a deterrent.

>>5468160
I just want the freedom to practice self-expression. I don't want to force anyone to be gay or trans, I merely want them stopped from harming people who are gay or trans. They're the ones that are enforcing their norms on LGBT people by harming them for practicing self-expression.

>>5468178
I really don't.

>>5468195
So people would follow the Zionists

>>5468195
I know, right? What's the point of propaganda and advertisements when they don't affect people's behavior in any way? Don't they know what a waste of money it is?

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>>5468195
We have people like George Soros who constantly fund left-wing agenda and also bring chaos to this world

>>5468185
We're doing our best senpai. Some people are hard to let go, but they newer generations of right wing is more accepting, we know its about ideals, and defeating the left, and that will only happen if we have the popular opinion.

>>5468226
And that's relevant to the discussion how?

>>5468195
>With the influence of things they see around them
It still comes down to personal choice. All the advertising in the world cannot force a person to do something. You would have to ban all human interaction if you wanted to avoid "cultural influence".
>>5468197
>but that doesn't mean they're completely disconnected from the cost/benefit analysis which guides all human actions
and the cost-benefit of getting shot by your intended victim is quite a bit higher than officer Barnaby showing up 30 min later looking for semen and fingerprints.
>The only way it will stop them is if you wound them bad enough to immediately incapacitate them. In that case, it's obviously not functioning as a deterrent.
Well, yeah it is. You stopped them cold using the only option left.
>I just want the freedom to practice self-expression.
Then you need to extend that freedom to others even if they disagree with you.
>I merely want them stopped from harming people who are gay or trans
We already have laws against violence or assault regardless of the motive. We've been over this.

>>5468226
Left-wing agenda that does nothing to challenge our imperialist, white supremacist capitalist, patriarchal culture, one should note.

"Left/right" politics are inadequate to identify and challenge the real problems with the world.

(Though left is certainly closer to the right path.)

>>5468243
>It still comes down to personal choice.
It comes down to very heavily influenced and constrained personal choice.

People being unaware of these constraints and not having the slightest idea what living without these constraints might feel like, is downright tragic.

>>5468254
>(Though left is certainly closer to the right path.)
It's never the right path. It always heads towards the Marxist mindset.

>>5468269
Are you using "Marxist mindset" as some sort of insult?

I haven't read any Marxist teachings, but as far as I know they are a very useful tool for how to view society, culture, and over-arching systems of power.

>>5468254
>tfw there are actually people who would nod their heads to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyDC1GmOOcQ

>>5468243
>and the cost-benefit of getting shot by your intended victim is quite a bit higher than officer Barnaby showing up 30 min later looking for semen and fingerprints.
Sure, but you're assuming there's a high chance they won't get caught.

>Well, yeah it is. You stopped them cold using the only option left.
Yes, however you managed to disprove your whole idea of "gun as a deterrent". If you have to blow someone's brains out to stop them from killing you it's not a deterrent. And, if they manage to sneak up behind you and pull the trigger, it won't make a difference whether they're armed or not.

>Then you need to extend that freedom to others even if they disagree with you.
Sure, as long as their "disagreement" doesn't entail taking away our rights. I'm all for freedom of expression (but it's rightly limited in certain areas - no "shouting fire in a crowded theater" and individual institutions (like this website) can set limits on freedom of expression as part of the implicit contract of use).

>>5468279
kill yourself my man, its the most murderous ideology in history and did it in a single century

>>5468279
Marxism is complete authoritarian utopia that promotes itself as the ideology of peace and tolerance but only after violent revolution against every capitalist society is done. Only teens, tumblr and manchildren support it unironically because they're unable of taking responsibility of their own actions.

>>5468269
>>5468279
However they're using it, it's misleading. It makes it sound like anything left of center will inevitably lead to something like the Soviet Union.

>>5468267
>People being unaware of these constraints and not having the slightest idea what living without these constraints might feel like
It's called the internet. Or even TV. In a worst-case scenario where a gay person is born into a setting that doesn't accept them, they can learn about alternatives and guide themselves towards their chosen future just like everyone else. Many people have to keep quiet and present a civil bland face to the world, whether it's in a professional setting or otherwise until they can go hit up the bar/hawaii etc. and let loose. That's life. You need to navigate it and take care of yourself at the end of the day.

>>5468297
Most of the deaths caused by the Soviet Union were not really part of an agenda that was actually based on Marxist. Few really cared about Marxism after Lenin, Stalin wasn't Marxist at all.

>>5468299
Marxism doesn't consider the authoritarian society a utopia. It considers the essentially anarchist society that is supposed to follow it to be a utopia. Unfortunately, Marx had a poor understanding of human nature and didn't realize the difficulty inherent in finding an authoritarian leader who would be willing to give up power later on.

>>5468281
>MLG
My fucking 10 year-old brother watches that shit, get it out of my face please.

Denying the imperialist, white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy is, uh, pretty uneducated, to put it in friendly words.

>>5468297
>m-muh Marxist COMMIES!!
Don't you have some freedumbs to chase?

>>5468299
>>5468304
We seem to be talking about entirely different things.
I'm talking about a certain methodology in how to analyze societies and cultures.

Anyway, I haven't actually read anything about Marxism, this is just what I got from others speaking/writing about it.

>>5468304
Left center = WEED LMAO
Leftism in Marxist sense = Militant social justice warriors

>>5468310
>it's perfectly okay for people to deprive others of the right of freedom of expression

>>5468330
What you're referring to as "left center" is what actual leftists call "reddit brogressives".

>>5468296
>Sure, but you're assuming there's a high chance they won't get caught.
In many situations this is the case, and an unstable murderer would certainly think so.
>If you have to blow someone's brains out to stop them from killing you
That's if they know you're armed and have decided to come after you anyway. Hence, last resort. Unless you'd rather trust in officer Barnaby. The state won't take care of your funeral arrangements, btw.
>Sure, as long as their "disagreement" doesn't entail taking away our rights
And what rights would those be? You have the same rights as everyone else. Forcing a business to cater to you is violating their rights to refuse service based on any criteria they wish, just as you are allowed to refuse service based on any criteria you wish.

>>5468334
You can express yourself all you like, but they have the right to throw you out of the house if that's how they feel about it. Tough, I know. That's why it's wiser to keep quiet if you want to keep the gravy train going until you can get out, if you're in that situation.

>>5468310
Anon, every idea that comes to your mind, every action you take in life, every identity you take on yourself, are all a result of your individual mind *processing the input it received throughout its life*.

You interpret the input your culture has provided you, but it is all you have to interpret.

Radical cultural change is about straining yourself to overcome the limitations inherent in this lack of alternative inputs.

Radical feminism is about overhauling from the ground up what it means to be a human on this planet. What it means to live your life as a homo sapiens. In particular, without male supremacy, without heteronormativity, without dominance/submission role-playing. Because these things, empirically, have led and continue to lead to abundant amounts of human suffering.

>>5468353
>Forcing a business to cater to you is violating their rights to refuse service based on any criteria they wish, just as you are allowed to refuse service based on any criteria you wish.
That right doesn't actually exist in many places. It generally only applies to businesses functioning on a contract model. If you walk into a store and buy something, they have to sell it to you if you're willing to give them the money. There's a very limited set of situations where they ARE allowed to refuse service, such as if you're not wearing clothes or are engaging in disruptive behavior.

>>5468369
>are all a result of your individual mind *processing the input it received throughout its life*
No, sorry, we're not impressionable molds of jelly. Everything YOU do is based on your own impulses, interests and drives. You learn about the world and how to navigate it, but how you navigate it is entirely up to you. You don't seem to understand that which is probably why you're a groupthink politburo statist.

>>5468367
>but they have the right to throw you out of the house if that's how they feel about it.
What if you're a minor and they're your parents? Isn't that child abuse? And what if you've already paid your rent and the landlord kicks you out for being gay? Wouldn't that be equivalent to theft?

>That's why it's wiser to keep quiet if you want to keep the gravy train going until you can get out, if you're in that situation.
And here you go again, saying "don't practice your right to freedom of expression if you know what's good for you."

>>5468396
Sure, you can make a choice, but that doesn't mean society is actually going to allow you to make that choice without imposing consequences.

>>5468386
>If you walk into a store and buy something, they have to sell it to you if you're willing to give them the money.
Not really. I mean it's stupid not to do so but they can still choose so. Like my local store doesn't sell energy drinks to children under the age of 16 even though it's not a law, they just don't want to.

>>5468386
>If you walk into a store and buy something, they have to sell it to you if you're willing to give them the money
No, they don't. That's a modern thing that violates the basic freedom of a person to do whatever they want. If someone is selling a house or a painting and they have several offers, they can choose who they want to sell it to, or even change their mind and not sell it as long as no contract was made. If something is mislabeled, you cannot demand that it be sold at that price because "there was a contract in your mind". You cannot go to a service and demand that they make a particular custom item just because they offer customization.

>>5468396

You're claiming that there's some sort of immutable kernel of every person that is capable of coming up with original ideas purely on its own.

Where does this come from? Is it in your DNA? Do you think your DNA or else contains enough information to be able to come up with abstract thoughts?

Yeah, getting really scientific/philosophical here, but I think it's fairly obvious that every person is molded at least 99.999% by their surroundings. The individual mind is a self-modifying interpreter that purely processes input, not containing any human knowledge of its own.

Maybe I could have put that in less computer-science-y terms...

>>5468424
So then are stores allowed to charge black people 50% extra? Logically, if they can choose to deny service to black people (equivalent to setting an infinite price) they should also be free to charge them extra on the basis of their race.

>>5468430
I'm talking about retail type businesses where there is no formal contract and the good or service being sold is non-unique.

>>5468402
>Isn't that child abuse? And what if you've already paid your rent and the landlord kicks you out for being gay? Wouldn't that be equivalent to theft?
Homosexuality doesn't come into it. If they break the law, for whatever reason, then you have recourse in the legal system. If they don't, then you don't.
>>5468411
That's life. I'd prefer to drive higher than the speed limit but I can't. I can move to Germany though.

>>5468459
>You're claiming that there's some sort of immutable kernel of every person that is capable of coming up with original ideas purely on its own.
>Where does this come from? Is it in your DNA? Do you think your DNA or else contains enough information to be able to come up with abstract thoughts?
Yes.
>>5468460
>I'm talking about retail type businesses where there is no formal contract and the good or service being sold is non-unique.
They have the right to refuse service. Whether that right is being respected nowadays is another matter.

>>5468462
>Homosexuality doesn't come into it. If they break the law, for whatever reason, then you have recourse in the legal system. If they don't, then you don't.
Then you're contradicting yourself. Earlier you said "they have a right to throw you out of the house". Which you're now admitting they don't, except in very rare situations.

>That's life. I'd prefer to drive higher than the speed limit but I can't. I can move to Germany though.
Sure, but the "right" to drive 200 km/h isn't remotely comparable to the right to freedom of expression.

>>5468472
>They have the right to refuse service. Whether that right is being respected nowadays is another matter.
Rights don't exist in any meaningful sense unless they're enforced. Claiming a right exists when no one is willing to enforce or protect it is the legal equivalent of writing fanfiction.

>>5468460
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/02/22/muslim_barbers_and_woman_whose_hair_they_wouldnt_cut_resolve_dispute_with_a_good_talk.html

You can have cases like this. Forcing a Muslim cutting the hair of a woman goes against the first amendment but then again it is gender discrimination. Which one you choose? Don't forget gay bars that have nights when they let only women in.

>>5468498
>Forcing a Muslim cutting the hair of a woman goes against the first amendment but then again it is gender discrimination.
What part of the first amendment is being violated here? Freedom of religion doesn't really apply because no one is FORCING the Muslim to take that job, so part of the "employment contract" is that they do anything (non-illegal, obviously) that the job requires or else quit. They're free to quit, nothing's stopping them from quitting. And it wouldn't count as gender discrimination if the place was labeled as male-only, or if there were other employees who were willing and able to cut a woman's hair.

>Don't forget gay bars that have nights when they let only women in.
And again, this doesn't seem to violate either - as long as it's a pre-planned special event to which only women are admitted rather than just something they randomly decide to do one day.

>>5468532
Barbers are usually private businesses. So there are no "employment contracts". There is no rules for a barber who runs their own barbershop. If that was a worker under a contract then the employer would have had the right to fire him if he didn't approve that.

>>5468476
>Then you're contradicting yourself. Earlier you said "they have a right to throw you out of the house".
I believe in most states it's 18.
>Sure, but the "right" to drive 200 km/h isn't remotely comparable to the right to freedom of expression
It was an example. In terms of what we're speaking about, if the laws/cultural norms in your particular area do not appeal to you, then the onus is on you to go somewhere where you do fit, not on the entire community to change around you. You don't walk into a lesbian bar as a guy and start hitting on people and expect things to go swimmingly.
>>5468484
>Claiming a right exists when no one is willing to enforce or protect it
You are correct. However, there are plenty of people willing to enforce and protect their rights as we are seeing unfolding right before our eyes. If you try and claim you have a right to enforce your views on others--particularly "tolerance"--you'll find the blowback is severe and not at all what you were aiming for.

>>5468498
>Don't forget gay bars that have nights when they let only women in.
Only lgbt women I hope?

Same with that bakery that refused to bake a cake for gay wedding, they OWNED that place so they had every right to follow their own ideals. It's up to you whether you want to be a customer for place like that. Private Christian schools can ban homosexual students or employees too because they're not state owned. The schools funded by taxpayers' dollars can't practice discrimination like that.

>>5468561
>It was an example. In terms of what we're speaking about, if the laws/cultural norms in your particular area do not appeal to you, then the onus is on you to go somewhere where you do fit, not on the entire community to change around you. You don't walk into a lesbian bar as a guy and start hitting on people and expect things to go swimmingly.
Obviously, but if people in your neighborhood start harassing or attacking you due to your sexuality or religion, they're the ones in the wrong, not you.

>You are correct. However, there are plenty of people willing to enforce and protect their rights as we are seeing unfolding right before our eyes. If you try and claim you have a right to enforce your views on others--particularly "tolerance"--you'll find the blowback is severe and not at all what you were aiming for.
"Tolerance" as far as I'm concerned simply means that they will not harm people based on their gender, race, religion, sexuality and so on. If people can't do that, they belong in prison. I don't think that's a "SJWish" attitude to have.

>>5468618
>Obviously, but if people in your neighborhood start harassing or attacking you
Which is illegal anyway, regardless of the motive.
>"Tolerance" as far as I'm concerned simply means that they will not harm people based on their
Congratulations, you live in one of several countries that has outlawed harming people and allows you to defend yourself from said harm, provided the gun-grabbing SJWs don't get their way. Now take care not to abuse that right for your own personal crusades.

>>5468676
>Which is illegal anyway, regardless of the motive.
Right, I'm just saying that being gay in a homophobic area doesn't somehow make it NOT illegal.

>>5468707
Did anyone?

>>5468716
That seemed to be the implication earlier. There was a lot of victim blaming going on along the lines of "If you're gay and you live in a homophobic neighborhood you better hide that you're gay or you'll get what you deserve."

>>5468472
>>Do you think your DNA or else contains enough information to be able to come up with abstract thoughts?
>Yes.
Seems implausible. Human DNA surely doesn't contain knowledge in the sense of what adult people think and do.

Seems implausible that DNA contains information to prefer a dress over trousers.

>>5463231
That's beautiful anon, you can be my ass fucking leader and I'll be your little slut soldier, ready to fight the good fight.

>>5468938
>Literally all I wanted for Xmas.
>Fucking finally.
OK, pal. You are now my favorite. And my butt buddy slut soldier. Is your nubile body ready for the habbening?

>>5468750
>"If you're gay and you live in a homophobic neighborhood you better hide that you're gay or you'll get what you deserve."
Just a realistic assessment of the situation. Whether someone "deserves" it or not isn't the point, though of course your SJW crusader bullshit mind assumed it was. Oh, and it's still illegal, regardless of your crusading, was before you, and will be after you.
>>5468856
>Human DNA surely doesn't contain knowledge
Then go do your research. Hint: many animals are born without any sort of parents or social structure and know exactly what to do anyway.

>>5469330
>Just a realistic assessment of the situation. Whether someone "deserves" it or not isn't the point, though of course your SJW crusader bullshit mind assumed it was. Oh, and it's still illegal, regardless of your crusading, was before you, and will be after you.
The question wasn't whether it was illegal, it was whether the person in question thought it SHOULD be illegal or not.

Is it really going to take faggots and closets to actually rally the right? So fucking tired of the used up lines and games. Especially when the olds fucks say stupid shit, then the younger fucks defend them out of respect, then the even younger fucks who don't know what is going on get shit on.

>>5469534
>it was whether the person in question thought it SHOULD be illegal or not
That's up to the person and they'll decide that on their own regardless of the law. Hence why if you're gay and you're living in a place where people are murderously oriented towards gays you should get out of there, just like you'd leave an area inhabited by drug addicts and assorted criminals. Criminals are criminals regardless of "shoulds".

>>5469551
>This is why the second amendment is so important.

I honestly don't get why more gay people don't have guns considering how many of them are murdered all around the world.

>>5469567
I guess they're generally sweet and gentle people and guns can be scary, not to mention heavily regulated in many parts of the world so it's an unfortunate situation. That's why staying in the closet and moving at the first opportunity is usually a good idea, rather than waiting for trouble to find you. Guns are a last resort. I'm not sure why people would want to stay somewhere they were despised anyway.

>>5469600
Because like all people, if you keep fleeing land, eventually there will be none left. All great people paid for their rights in blood. There is no exception for any group.

>>5469624
Yes, stand and fight for the great gay empire and martyr yourself for the great gay spaghetti monster in the sky.

Be realistic and make your life what you want it to be, life is not a strategic war game. Even if it was, it wouldn't make sense to live in the enemy camp.

>>5463201
>tfw recently acquired a boyfriend who is going to do this to me
living the dream

>>5469664
You helped build the enemy camp by spreading shit like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcUSDcMyKGw

Understand that it is accurate to say, your land will be in your hands as long as you fight for it. If you don't want it, someone else will take it from you. Yes this is a metaphor. /polgbt/ being a minority needs to make a presence in the Republican/Conservative community. That way they always have a place, regardless of who wins.

>>5469551
By "the person in question" I did not mean the person committing the illegal act, I was referring to the person I was talking to in this thread.

>>5469666
greentext right now

>>5469717
>meet guy from 4chan
>we talk for a few months on skype
>it turns out we're really compatible
>we really like each other
>he doesn't have a lot of rl kinky experience
>he knows I'm very submissive and into being someones cock sleeve and bitch who can only cum from getting fucked
>when we meet up aside from massive amounts of cuddling we're going to do lewd stuff
>I'm going to kind of train him to be a dom and know what to do, how to be comfy, and so on so he can train me
That's pretty much it.

>>5469690
>You helped build the enemy camp by spreading shit like that.
Gay people need to find love, security and comfort, and that means living somewhere they're secure, with people who are ok with them. Not fighting some bizarro /polgbt/ autism war. Find a bf, be secure, that's it. You aren't really helping the march of the white race if you aren't having children anyway. Most of /pol/ despises the mainstream "Republican community" because they're retarded, just as they despise SJWs and democrats. Or at least that's how it used to be, dunno if the board has reverted to Bush-era stupidity thanks to Trumpmania.

>>5469765
That's really nice. So you're actually going to meet in the near future? Maybe I should connecting more with people here. That's pretty much what I want, except I've already Dommed grills. Guys must be easier. And hotter. Good stuff, anon.

>>5469810
I still can't believe it happened but I'm so happy it did. We're both going to be the first same sex people we've ever been with too.

Too many feels, comfy cuddly ones, intimate romantic ones. And of course ones that come from knowing that my cock and butt are his property!

>>5469801
Everybody hates the elites in the party. I am talking about the wider conservative community. Since you can't read into metaphors I will explain. Really slow, since fucking a snails pace wasn't obvious enough.

THERE IS NO ACTUAL FUCKING WAR!
The point of the post is that people, specifically gays. Should become more active in both parties. You can't just sit around and ignore politics. They are what shape the world around you. If you do keep fleeing from them in the U.S. You will run out of states. Faggots, need to come out in the south. And show that they aren't just liberal sheep begging for handouts.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/04/30/alabama-weighs-eliminating-all-marriage-licenses-gay-or-straight/

Stuff like removing the Government from marriage can help the /glb/ community. Especially if they get involved in their communities. If you never talk to someone, they will never know you.

This is as slow as I can explain the situation. Right now, the time is ripe, for LGB to enter the conservative community. Especially since multiple ALT-Right are on the rise.

>>5469828
>first same sex people we've ever been with too.
That's unusual. You guys must be young. Good for you. Keep us posted. This place can always use happy news.

polgbtdogs.jpg

>>5469878
Rational conservative criticism against marriage isn't rooted in Homophobia, but the social requirement to resist change. As a conservative, I lament that gay marriage (and rights in general) was ever a social issue. That said, I reject the flamboyant methodology of mainstream gays to draw attention to their cause, and I resist the liberal push to erase social norms and force an inertia of social degredation.

It's unfortunate that you had to ally yourself with a group that's fundamentally incompatible with a modern functioning state, but now that you've achieved acceptance, I do hope that you'll distance yourself from the liberal umbrella and look gain traction in right wing circles. We may not be able to admit it, but we DO want you.

>>5469933
You are literally fucking retarded.
The post above says this.
>>5469933
>Small government allows fags to be fags at a community level.
>Taking marriage rights from the state helps everyone
>Fags should get more involved in politics.

The reason the sexual orientation matters in such a situation is because it matters to other people. It is up to the fag community to show they all aren't flamboyant assholes. They just want to fuck assholes at home in piece.

>>5469956
I was reinforcing the point because I'm posting on a phone and I didn't want to scroll through the entire thread to try and find the post he was arguing against.

Relax fudgepacker, I'm on your side, there's no reason to get so buttflustered

>>5469878
>Stuff like removing the Government from marriage can help the /glb/ community.
Is this something really being supported by anyone on the right? It seems that it would have been something that would have satisfied both sides, but I never heard anyone really advocating it.

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>>5469970
>tfw do something stupid... On the internet.

>>5469982
It is a conservative principle. (Doesn't say much about Belters and Elites though)
Marriage licenses are one of the biggest government overreaches ever.
Makes Government too powerful.

>>5469987
Whoa bro, call yourself, I don't want you to aggravate your prolapsed rectum.

>>5470014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUzhISwCC-I
I think we could all use something to calm down.

>>5470024
Thanks bruh

>>5470045
No problem anon.
Glad to post such an amusing video

>>5470024
>>5470067
Too soon. Too soon.

Post cute dogs or prettyboys next time. The thread is not gay enough.

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>>5470152
If the thread needs to be gayer you post something. I don't keep gay shit on my computer.

>>5469878
>Should become more active in both parties.
Gay people are active in both parties, firmly closeted cases in the case of the Repubs and rainbow-flag types with the Dems. It doesn't change much because sexual identity politics is a dead end and ultimately irrelevant to the bigger picture. My post was about literally moving if you're surrounded by people who want to harm you, and you responded with something about not giving up territory or something. That's not going to work with people who are extremely anti-gay, ok? You can't force it down their throats like SJWs want to. Doesn't work that way, which is why /pol/ frowns on pride parades and shit. You already have the right to defend yourself and carry on relationships in the privacy of your own home, it's just much wiser to do so when you're not surrounded by people who wished you didn't exist. In Europe it's a little different, the tolerance even in conservative areas is much higher (depending on the country), so there's that, but they're also a much older civilization and don't have that religious fear of intimacy that's so common in America.

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>>5470169
>I'm a special snowflake that doesn't want to die for my homeland.
>Lets just runaway some more

>>5470166
I don't get it. Why did you take the time to do all that? Lil creepy. Well anyway if you're an angry kid wanting to argue I'm going to need something to work off of.

>>5470196
I just wanted you to be the one to post cute stuff. I don't keep any on my computer, just weebshit and /pol/shit. Rather be caught as a racist then a faggot.

>>5470192
>die for my homeland
ok are we back to the autismo gay brigades now

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>>5470213
Just because you're a coward, doesn't mean something is autistic.

>>5470221
Good, then stay in the closet and fight "for your homeland" because the radical christians won't want anything to do with you if they know you're gay. Meanwhile the Vermont homo nationalists will be doing quite well in a 95% white state :^)

>>5470221
>not wanting to throw your life away in a pointless war that will accomplish nothing makes you a coward

>>5470239
Literally WW1

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>>5470203
>rather be caught racist than faggot
You must live with tolerant folk.

I have been half-assed looking for that polgbt pic with Pomeranians or whatever nuzzling. I shoulda saved it. Let's see what I have...

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>>5470239
>>5470233
Radical Christians at least let faggots lives. I bet you support muslims too.

>>5470239
Yes, it really does.

>>5470249
Polgbt is cute. I wish they'd make more

>>5470254
>Radical Christians at least let faggots lives. I bet you support muslims too.
I don't (unless "supporting" them means "not advocating genocide"), but nice projection though. And don't act like LGBT people have never suffered at the hands of radical Christians, you know that's not the case.

>Yes, it really does.
Then there is no virtue, no reason to be anything but a coward. I mean, I suppose there's someone delusional enough to call someone who slaughters millions of innocents a "hero", but that doesn't mean that being a hero in that sense is something one should aspire to be.

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>>5470271
I can't even remember what my first post was anon. I just got bored and argued moot points.

Also,

>>5470254
Strawman. Like I said, radical christians don't want anything to do with you, you might as well be carrying a disease and you aren't going to change their minds with the power of qt. If you want to stay there and do stuff, then it's the closet for you and a prayer nobody finds out.

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>>5470277
>>5470271
>>5470281

Christians suffer from radicalism as much as anybody else. However even at their most extreme in the U.S you will only ever find sporadic cases these days of assaults.

Fighting is a necessity. When acting half-heartedly in the realm of politics you will become the fall guy and the scapegoat. You do need to fight to survive.

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I like knife man, he seems sexy.

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Need this one Polgbt themed.

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Because you need a sad ending to be artistic.

>>5470305
>Fighting is a necessity. When acting half-heartedly in the realm of politics you will become the fall guy and the scapegoat. You do need to fight to survive.
The only kind of fighting that really makes sense these days is voting to keep religion (both Islamic and Christian) out of government.

>>5470339
Why not keep all religion out of government?

>>5464032
>open-minded Nazis

all of my wut

>>5470347
You'll find the wut next to your sense of humor. Or read the whole thread. Whichever search is easier for you.

>>5470331
Fuck feminists

>>5470346
That's what I meant. I just specified Islamic and Christian because those are the two most significant religious groups pushing for influence in the government these days and I wanted to make it clear that I didn't favor either of them.

>>5470376
The trio of monotheistic religions have anon. Judaisim, Christianity, and Islam. Every religion has been used to do unspeakable things and trio of monotheistic ones have done a large amount but I am sick and really fucking tired of people blaming Christains for all this shit. We honestly try our best not to discriminate, we try to keep true with the laws of our religion, we try and better the earth. Look I know its bad for gays especially because it seems like you have everyone breathing down your neck and trying to kill you but the majority of us dont care.

And by the way gays fighting back against christains is only a half measure. Youre culture combatting with christianity is why alot of christains hate you. They hate you because your leaders push for the rectuitment of more gays. They hate you because of your extremists and you hate us because of ours.

>>5470407
There are definitely some good Christians, I'm not arguing that. But that's no reason not to call out the bad ones who say gay people should be put to death or not given equal rights.

>>5470416
Yeah I get what you mean. I really hate Westboro. They give christains a bad name. A really bad name. I just want people to stop lumping us in with them. Because honestly most of us dont care and the rest are too lazy/distracted to really do anything.

>>5470416
And you too should do the same with your extremists. That way we don't have them screaming for recruitment.

>>5470416
You could call them Radicals. Or Extremists. 9/10 it is just the blanket label of "Christians"
>>5470416
Also don't give me that bullshit about "some good Christians". We built this fucking nation and now you fags have a place to exist without getting a knife in their throats. You don't know how fucking fringe just being gay is do you?

>>5470326
The second one from the left looks exactly like lgbt tan~

>>5471734
Good eye. That's the new canon.

>>5470484
>Also don't give me that bullshit about "some good Christians". We built this fucking nation and now you fags have a place to exist without getting a knife in their throats. You don't know how fucking fringe just being gay is do you?
Yeah, you see this is the attitude that I have a problem with. It's pointed out that there are bad Christians, and you suddenly freak out and start projecting violent thoughts. And besides, even if being gay is "fringe", how is that in any way a reason to kill them?