>girlfriend and I masturbate to all kinds of porn both together

Despite wanting to be equal, the biological concept of men being a hunter and provider and women being a caretaker and a gatherer still stands. In women's eyes, you lose your masculinity when you show an interest in wanting anything but the typical. To her, she can't compete with a woman with a dick the way she's secure she can compete against other women. Basically, you watching it makes you less of a man and you break the illusion of being her secure provider, she'll tire of you soon enough and break up with you.

So you're saying it's totally straight to fap to shemale (not even trap) porn?

>>5444533
I've never actually provided much to her but love and emotional support and cock.

>>5444549
No, i'm saying women are prudes even if they claim to be open minded.

I mean, she doesn't have to enjoy it but fuck man, it's my own little thing. I'm not shoving my cock into peoples faces about it.

And I still want her, she knows I love her more than anything else and yet she still acts like it's some huge deal. She claims to be open minded but this stuff is redunkulous.

>>5444719
That's because you are now less of a man in her eyes. It's not about being open minded, it's about the basics of human psyche. You are attracted to dick, which is her job and her arousal pattern. You become sidelined with a woman in her eyes.

it's just homophobia
we both know that doing that isn't something a straight person does. it is a very common thing to do though
women are awful though, gl w/ that my het brother

Well, if she dumps you, at least you know what to step up to.

What the fuck is this pseudoscience/psychology bullshit? OP's girlfriend is literally just afraid that he's closeted homosexual and might leave her.
All OP has to do is talk to her about it and explain that he loves her and that this is just a fantasy fetish.

>>5445049
wellf he might not be all that straight if he likes to watch men with silicone tits so all her concerns are real

>>5444518
Women are terrible people and the embodiement of double-standards. They are not intelligent enough to understand what is open-mindedness even when they claim everywhere they're open-minded.

>>5444819
It's transphobia, and a little homophobia (though not really).

>>5445049
Or he can take the moral high ground and leave her for being a bigot and transphobic.

>>5444518
what a bitch

>>5445089
no, it isn't transphobia. it is homophobia. she is worried b/c he is getting off to men that he is a homo. she thinks he wants to fuck ladydudes and not girls. trans issues don't really connect.

>>5445193
She thinks trans women are men, thus thinks her boyfriend is gay because he faps to what she thinks are men.
That's transphobia.

The only vaguely homophobic part is "they're closeted gays and will break their hearts."
But that's pretty often true in gay cases, and just telling the future of what's gonna happen if you've married to a gay.

>>5445205
>transphobia.

Stop making up words. Homophobia and transphobia doesn't exist.

>>5445205
>he faps to what she thinks are men.

But they are men.

>>5445306
Wow, le edgy opinion xD

>>5445205
1.If he wanted to see women have sex then he'd watch het or solo porn. But he' snot.
2.There is NO CHANCE that he was watching post op transwomen porn only.
3.All litterally ALL transexual woman porn is cock centric. All of it. Every single bit.
And any transwoman porn stars who have tiny limp nonfunctional dicks(basically the standard for all actual transexual women) are shat on by the "shemale" porn lovers.
So it is indeed all about watching men fuck people with (porn large, you know cock pumps viagra, oft surgeried up and it's only really 6 inches with some camera tricks) erect penises.

tldr
Dude is basically watching themed gay porn.

>>5445334
truth hurts bud

we are not women and never will be and this comes from a tranny

>>5445205
right, right. that is what I meant. she is associating dicks with men with being gay.
but she also is scared cos she thinks being gay is bad or that he will leave her or w/e.

>not wanting a bi bf to watch all sorts of porn with

call her a normie

>>5445205
>It's a phobia to recognize a human with a dick as a guy

Just dump the bitch and get a trans gf

>>5445424

Yes because being a guy is a gender and gender is a social construct it has nothing to do with your genitals. So really I can have sex with all the guys I want as long as they identify as women that means I'm straight.

Am I doing it right?

>>5445424
it's kind of a doublethink really

>this is a guy but this guy isn't a guy because he wears a skirt

>>5445349
All porn is cock centric.
Especially anal porn, it only has 3 things with heavy focus on it.
>The Guys cock
>A butt hole that is stuffed with cock, or gaping
>A pretty womans face

That's just as gay, and should have her just as worried.

>>5445433
>tfw you can't tell the shitposting from the delusional thinking anymore

>>5445286
Er, "phobia" might be the wrong term (more like bigotry) but they are very much real.

Makes me wonder how a straight transwoman would feel if she found her boyfriend jerking it to cis female porn. Or how a gay male would feel upon finding his partner fapping to cis female porn.

>>5445542
Many trans women wouldn't really want to be in a relationship with someone who fetishizes their penis, it would likely give them dysphoria. Their boyfriends simply being attracted to cis women along with them would most likely not be detrimental to the relationship.

>>5445723
>Hello
>I'm here to repeat the same thing I've heard been said a number of times
>I'd also like to inform you that I've been on hormones for 5 days, that makes me an expert on the subject.

>>5445542
If the girl in the porno isn't hyper feminine I'd suspect he's gay, for liking a woman that isn't hyper feminine.

>>5444719
>I've never actually provided much to her but love and emotional support and cock.
Doesn't mean she didn't feel about you as a provider.

>>5444786
>You become sidelined with a woman in her eyes.
You become competition!!!

>>5444719
>tfw no one to give me love and emotional support and cock

>>5445542
>Or how a gay male would feel upon finding his partner fapping to cis female porn.
If I knew before hand that he was bi I'd be, and have been, fine with it.
If it was kept secret (I have no idea why a guy would do that with an attraction to cis women) then I'd be a bit weirded out and repulsed by his insecurity over something so innocuous.
Maybe I'd be a bit insecure with the "when's he going to leave me to settle for a more socially acceptable partner"/"find a breeder," etc. But that's common for me anytime I date a bisexual guy.

>>5444518
Just make her watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4

Shemales are a fetish for straight men; they provide a sort of "sexual optical illusion". Male biology is programmed to become aroused both at the female form and aroused male genitalia. Why male genitalia? Because aroused male genitalia indicates the presence of a female, thus indicating the possibility of reproduction. "Shemale" porn basically combines both the competitive and the direct indicators for arousal.

>>5444518
Straight women are literally the worst, most closed minded, ignorant, hypocritical, and judgemental bimbos.

>>5444518
Phallic complex.

It can be triggering to some women to think that your men may like something you can't provide.

That's why most bi males are seen as gays and reject by women, and stay in the closet leaving a double life.

I was watching this show on dating and there were a man and a woman going out. The man told her he is bisexual and she immediately asked if he was a top and then she was extremely happy that he was and she high-fived him.

GODDAMMIT I AM SO FUCKING TRIGGERED I HATE GODDAMN DUMB BITCHES TOP OR BOTTOM MEME HOMOPHOBIC CUNT I WANNA STAB YOU RIGHT IN THE FACE FUCKING CUNT

>>5448508
oof. looks like we've got a hyper-emotional bottom faggot right here! uh oh!

>>5448835
You've missed the point. For the record, I don't even have anal sex. My point was that (a) that dumb bitch asked him top or bottom meme; and (b) she somehow thought 'oh it's okay if he was fucking the dude, but the other way around eewwww'.

You're as dumb as that bitch.

>>5445436
Solo female masturbation porn isn't. And I'd rather watch that then shemale porn.
I mean, it's like all cock and an off horribly off looking womanish looking person and no snatch.

As much as people want to pretend this is a normal thing for 99.9% of all men. It's not it's litterally just themed gay porn and any guy who gets off on it regularly will want to fuck a transexualwoman in real life.

Not an actual transexual woman but one of those big dicked porn transexual women who'll fuck them in the ass or want a blowjob.

She's right. Dudes' kinda gay.

>>5448904
stay butthurt bottom! haha (get it?)
face it, people have known since grecian times that getting fucked in the ass by a man is inherently gay while fucking another man is not

>>5448908
Solo female masturbation porn.
no one is watching this though it's not a popular form of porn by any means
when i tell people i watch ti they look at me funny.
plus i watch tranny porn as well you all act like there is some disconnect and someone can't like trannies and women

>>5444518
>My girlfriend thinks this
>Why are women so closed minded?
EVERYONE:
4CHAN!

>>5444518
Women are typically the gatekeepers of sex and are keen to maintain control over your access to sexual release. This is why they so aggressively oppose porn, prostitutes, strip clubs, and things like shemale porn: it lessens their power. Feminists are very keenly aware of how powerful a weapon this is, and this is why they're constantly inventing new forms of rape and frequently oppose gays and bisexuals: one they can only partially control, the other not at all.

>>5450063
More like men (penis owners) are considered the gatekeepers of sex
That's why :
>men that get the peepee in the hole are denying the power of their dick/shaming the dick = they must die
>women have no dick = they are worthless
>lesbians don't exist, Because if you don't have the dick, thou shalt crave the dick (unless you're ugly than you can fuck off, no dick will ever want to dick you)
And your description of how feminists think is totally false, what you say they do is true, but the reason why they do it is not what you're saying
they are not as smart as you think they are, they are not "keenly aware" of anything, they're just reacting to their jealousy towards male
While some male tend to treat women as inferior ("women are dumb", "they can't think like us (men)", etc...)
Some female tend to feel like they truly are dumb, these feminists are the reaction to this feeling
I understand it's hard to be male(no irony), now that women are getting a higher status but men's doesn't change, men are only "losers" in this "fight"

>>5444518

If you're into dick why would you be into an actual woman? I think she should dump you. No woman wants to compete with dick, that's why we don't date bi dudes either. You're into something she can't provide, you're eventually going to stray and go look for it, and since many MTFs are prostitutes, you have plenty of opportunity to cheat. So she's right to be concerned, and liking dicks = gay, I don't give a fuck if this board thinks otherwise.

And fetishes are weird and usually dehumanizing. So it's not like you're a real catch here, anyway. She sounds fucked up, too, hopefully she'll get past her porn addiction.

>>5448929
>muh ancient greeks
Can't believe people still bring that nonsense up, as if it somehow has any relation to modern times.

>>5448908
>Not an actual transexual woman but one of those big dicked porn transexual women who'll fuck them in the ass or want a blowjob.
When I was younger I used to love watching big dick trannies fuck men, I also used to love big dick porn, still do. I go from watching big dick porn(every porn now adays is big dick porn) and homosexual porn and I can see myself sucking dicks and getting fucked in the ass. But I can't see myself fucking a women(I can, but I can't get off on it). When I see a beautiful women, with a nice body in the gym I like to look, I appreciate the beauty of the female body, does that mean I'm still straight?

I'm so confused... especially when I jerk off to big dick straight porn... sometimes I feel like /pol/ was right and I'm just a degenerate scum.

>>5450198
You sound like a horrible person, people like you are the reason I have to hid my lust for dick. If you think about it I bet most men straight like looking at big dicks, why else would porn glorify the dick so much? Most people are so rotten that they can't even admit to themselves that they might find the opposite sex arousing in some way.

I don't want people to find out that I want to try to experiment with other guys because of people like you, people who would label me a homosexual for having had sucked a dick. What if I suck a dick and don't like it and find out I liked the pussy all along? Then I would have shoot myself in the foot and I would never get to be with the opposite sex again.

Everybody is a little bit bi, if anything it's the pussy lovers that are the real fags, with their narrow minded mindset and look down on anyone who finds dick to be arousing.

>>5451063
1.Porn glorifies dick because...men have dicks and it's glorifying our sexuality. Not dressing the dick up as a sexual object to lust after.

2.Big dick porn as the standard is a recent thing. It's mainly cause the porn industry is like almost completely ran by either gays or bisexuals. Like 100%. And most of the male talent(mostly white and latin) are litteral steroid pumping gay stereotypes with beyond average dicks(till they get some work done)and basically all save for a handful of women being full on bi with that handful of women being super dykes.
ironically enough the dykes realize that there is no money in lez porn so they always end up doing straight scenes. Ironically enough they end up doing and being some of the best straight porn actresses around.
And the snowflake goldstar dyke pornstarlettes like lily cade can't produce a lez scene that would entertain a het male porn viewer to save their life.
ANYWAY
It's not a narrow mindset. You're just bisexual and women tend to not like that mainly because other men don't like it and they can't compete with a male or transexual woman.

They'll never be able to provide that thing that you want. And you will inevitably go after that. That's not even mentioning the HIV and Aids risk.

It's why lesbians hate and fear bisexual women and why men don't ever even consider settling down with bisexual women.

>>5451139
Are you gay or straight?

>>5445286
Homophobia exists, though it is often misunderstood.

Homophobia is commonly interpreted as "being afraid of gay people", while the truth is "being afraid of being labeled as or becoming gay".

Men don't kill gays because they're afraid of gays, men kill gays because they're insecure and afraid of becoming or being seen as gay unless he does something as not-gay as he could imagine, and he thinks hating/killing gays fits that bill.

So it's no surprise that the biggest homophobes are usually huge closet cases as well.

>>5451160
cis
male
vagosexual
like if it's a human with a natural cunt I'll consider putting my dick in it.
That includes no-op ftms and very butch lesbians.

>>5450948
No. Sexuality is in a spectrum and you're just in a fucked up spot. Have fun being unhappy for as long as you live. iktf.

>>5450948
big dick fetish.

>>5451249
So I'm not gay? I only have a big dick fetish? So I can just say I'm straight to everybody while I get rammed in the ass on the side? That sounds neato.

>>5451236
You're a filthy pussy lover scum, you'll never now the thrill of lusting after a cock.

>>5451236
>That includes no-op ftms and very butch lesbians.
You sound fucked up in the ass son. I'd rather be a biscum than a dyke snatcher.

>>5451236
Why do you hate gays and bisexuals(especially the bisexuals) so much?

>>5451373
Well, if you keep doing that you cross the threshold to size queen, but yeah, if you only get off to the idea of big dick (doesn't matter what the guy look like) and/or a guy you think is hot but wouldn't have sex with because of dick size not being up to your standards, you have a big dick fetish.

>>5451408
I really don't care if they guy isn't big, appearance does matter to me. I'd like him to be /fit/ and handsome.

>>5451373
That's okay. I'm content with the one I have.
It's kinda large but I consider it perfect. Would like another 3/4 inch so I can get double digits length though.

P.S you're bi bro. Dicks don't exist in a vacum. They are part of human biology.

>>5451384
Different strokes bro.
I like twat.
I hate the fact that I pre-cum at the thought of dominating and quasi raping an obvious butch lez or nigh passing ftm.
Would never let an FtM or butch lez I fucked raw leave my home during the day because..I'm closeted.

>>5451391
I don't hate gays or bisexuals. Actually very very into queer media and the like as a kid. Hell i grew up watching stuff like Party Girl and Rocky Horror and Priscilla Queen of the Desert and every lesbian porn on skinnimax.
Fucking B-52s, David Lee Roth, Little Richard, Dee Lite..
I just don't like that you guys are all in your little world over here and are cardoning yourselves off into a self destructive fantasy land.
My best friend in the world was bi, a guy I thought was awesome as a kid was a FLAMING gay neighbor, the first girl I ever fell in love with is gay and even after she got with the love of her life we'd find each other and...

>>5451499
You really don't care for sex if he isn't big, or you don't care about the size? Because there's a whole lot of times the phrase "big dick" comes up in your posts so that seems like the selling point to you.

>>5451518
When I look at gay porn, I can just see myself going down on /fit/ guys, jerking off men, touching their muscles, licking their balls etc. I really like what they do in gay porn.

It's just that when I was "straight" I used to be into big dick porn, I would idolize guys that were hung and somehow tell myself it wasn't gay wanting to fuck a "superior man" because he was a lot more man than myself.

I'm not a big guy, so most dicks seem big compared to be(at least in the locker room).

>>5450152

>men are the gatekeepers of sex

What reality do you live in?

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>>5444518
>And I looked up on google and this is a common thing.
I've been listening to/reading Dan Savage (not a scientific source, but a lot of good anecdotal evidence). What you are describing is VERY common. It is very common for SOME women to be close minded about pornography/kink/fetishes/etc. Women will ask men to tell them their fetish, they'll really push the issue a lot, they won't take "no" for an answer; and then, when the fetish isn't "I want to make love on a bed of rose-petals", these women will freak out, and call their male partner disgusting. According to Dan, this sort of thing happens a lot.

It is also very common for (mostly) straight men to like cocks. So long as it isn't attached to a man's body, a lot of (primarily) straight men think cocks are pretty nice (according to the Savage Lovecast, forgot the episode #).

>>5452739
But what if one wants to go down on cocks? Is that normal for a straight guy who watches a lot of porn?

>>5453340
Yes it happens from porn addiction.

>>5452739
>>5453340
>>5453703
but why would a straight man want to go down on a cock? i'd understand him being okay with having his dick sucked by anyone - men, women, anything in betwee but actually going down on a guy? i don't think that's the straight guy way

>>5453780
I'd understand a straight man going down on a transgirl's cock more easily than I'd understand having it sucked by another man; that shit's gay yo.

>>5453780
Admire cocks not lust after and see them as a sexual goal in and of themselves.
That is the difference between a het guy with an odd predeliction and a homosexual.
A guy who sees cock as the object of instead of a tool to use for sexual lust is gay.

Dudes who like transwomen and wants to fuck them over real women?
Gay

Dudes who'd look at a dick and admit that it's a nice size but is grossed out by having it anywhere near his own junk or orifices? Straight.

Dude who sees futa as a kink to watch?
Straight but leaning into bi territory.

Dude who can only get off to women if they have a dick?
Gay

>>5453837
both of your gay classifications are more accurately bi imho lad

>>5453837
ooh i get it

so it's like when a guy looks at a guy with bigger muscles and say "hmm those are nice muscles, wish i had those"

>>5444518
As a straight, cis woman in a long term relationship. I'd be really freaked out if I found out my boyfriend watched gay/shemale/trap porn.
Maybe I wouldn't mind if it was a short period of interest, but if it was one if his main kinks I'd honestly just leave.
It's weird and gay. That's all there is too it.

>>5455819
this sums up womens capacity to accept other peoples kinks, if they think its "weird and gay" thats all there is to it.

But when they want to get role play raped its totally normal and a form of empowerment

>>5444786
God, that's so weird a psychology and perception of things. Being in a straight relationship must blow...thank fuck I'm a tranfag

>>5446677
Same