So what's the real deal with black MtFs and passing? Some

They pass worse. The only ones that pass good are those uncommonly feminine.... just like white people. FFS is also less effective on them bc usually their flaws are in their entire bone structure and facial shape rather than a few features. Black dudes just have big heads.

I definitely think black dudes are more masculine in general but passing in general is a real crapshoot so yeah.

Start saving for FFS senpai.

Well this sucks.

>>5241017
Black men are more masculine than white men but black women are too so it is easy for them to pass. However, black men tend to much deeper voices are too tall which usually blows their cover

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>>5241017
I've been going to an all nigger American college for a year and a half now(do note there aren't any upstanding individuals of color here, hence the n word, so if you are a real African this may not fully apply) and one thing I will say from observation about the bodies of said individuals is that there is much more variation in the whole race where is concerned in comparison to the more civilized races. Many African America males have butts that would go well on a female of color. Many colored females have very large hips and thick(meaty or fat) legs but some have significantly slighter bodies and have tiny hips and thin limbs.
Chest is kind of good for mtf because they usually have larger busts and big boobs but not necessarily always big, so you could get with a larger bust and decent sized boobs too as the end result would be good.
I'd say the men aren't more masculine by nature it's that they have the potential to be. It's a lot of personal desire for the men to be masculine as well as the African American community is about thirty years behind he social curve. My college literately JUST got its first ever lgbt society this year and it was started in 1890 not 2013(look up Kentucky State University, biggest shit hole I could ever enroll in.) Which means that men haven't social progressed toward equality as much and so still are expected to be more masculine.

A lot of the problem is what type of build are you op? It will determine the type of gall you'll become, you may not get to become the exact type of woman you would want to be but you can pass easily if you find the right body type to emulate. Good luck to you OP.

>>5241017
Its kinda true for both and still boils down to genetic lottery (well, ffs and stuff not considered). Of they are super masculine theyll have trouble passing still. However just today while I was at my therapist appointment there was this black transgirl in the waiting room that I swear I thought was cis. Figured she was there for a different reason and only found out while she was talking to someone else there and pretty much mentioned that she was trans.

>>5242666
my voice is quiet and I'm 5'11". Many people say I look 17 (24 in January) but no-one has ever said I look or sound feminine
>>5243456
Why do you go there? You don't sound like you are enjoying it?
>there is much more variation in the whole race
I can agree with this, I know tall Serena Williams-tier black women as well the short slight types which is why I was reluctant to agree with "all black women are more masculine" because I think the reality is that they are just more varied in shape.
>I'd say the men aren't more masculine by nature it's that they have the potential to be. It's a lot of personal desire for the men to be masculine
This is pretty spot on, it's all posturing, We aren't any more masculine once you take away the hours in the gym, weird walks and hip-hop clothing, we even have less body hair and smoother skin on average.
> what type of build are you op?
I'll post a pic when I get back from the shops. I'm not sure if I'm borderline klienfelters or just fat. However when I was thin (70kg) I did still have trouble fitting into mens jeans when t-shirts fit fine. Now at 90 kg no jeans fit yet t-shirts still do.
>Many African America males have butts that would go well on a female of color
Yes my butt is big. I am actually worried that if I go on hormones it will get too big.

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>black men are masculine


Okay if you ignore the c uck propaganda and look at reality black men are the biggest faggots alive, im talking about black american men, not sure about other countries.

A majority of them are raised by single mothers and no father, so they adopt female mannerisms like passive aggressiveness and obsession with their hair and shoes and jewelry and other fag shit no self respecting straight white man cares about.

Also everyone knows hispanics and asians make the best traps

it swings both ways, some of them have these terrible hons some look good. That culture loves to play with weight so i see a lot of chubby, fat and everything black tgirls. fat can help with passablity although makes you gross in lots of cases. It might also be that black genes like hormones or something.

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>>5243974
>fat can help with passablity

>>5241017
OP are you white?

>>5243983
It's true. Covers up the skeleton

>>5243983

Actually true, obesity and advanced age increase androgeny. Passing=\=attractive

>>5243983
fat covers up your male skeletal structure

>>5243993
>>5243994
>>5243995
so why is every femboy stick thin?

>>5244062
Because it makes you uglier

Femboys don't have to pass for women

>>5243870
But they have big cocks, muscles and don't act like whiny beta bitches.

>>5244071
your only experience with black dick is in porn, black people have a high obesity rate, and niggers are always whining about everything

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OP here, here is me playing dress up three years ago, wasn't wearing any makeup, just that lipgloss. How bad is my man jaw? Will hormones have any effect? Am I doomed to be a giga nigga?

>>5244245
Not to bad man, looks convincing

>>5244806
Really? Thanks.

>>5244833
Yeah really, You do look really good from this angle. No huge chin or nothing. I would have assumed from the pic you were a lady.

>>5244245
You have a cute face.

Are you straight, op?
If yeah, how do you handle the "do you date white guys" questions?

>>5245265
Thanks
Yes I like white guys.

>>5243870
Black men hate their hair, they always cut it off.