>Women in the infantry is a good id- How old were you when

Is she being pulled by a hydration system and not a drag handle? Yeah women don't belong.

>being trained
>do shit wrong
>get corrected
>learn from experience
>grow as individual
Nothing wrong here m80

>>35185756
>Is *he being pulled
That's a guy, guy.

>>35185586
When have norwegians seen some action?

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> a British Army medic who received a medal of bravery this past week for her actions in Helmand, Afghanistan where she treated a gravely wounded soldier who had just lost both of his legs from a Taliban explosive device.

> After initially getting a shot of morphine from Tomkins, the soldier begged for more. When Tomkins refused the soldier more morphine in fear it would kill him, he looked up at her and said, “Well do something useful and show me your boobs.”

>>35185901
Well, did she?

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>>35185912
> Kindly ignoring the soldier’s request, Tomkins continued treatment and was credited with saving his life. Tomkins explained, “I was just doing my job.”
Nope. Women were a mistake.

>>35185985
That's simply awful

>>35185897
most recent and relevant is in afghanistan

>>35185985
Why do they do that shit to their eyebrows

>>35185586
Women belong at home in the kitchen
Period
end of story
the anomalous amazon bigfoot type woman should be kept in camps deep in the forest for chopping of firewood and such things.
and not allowed to have children.
all women should only be delicate, feminine and busy doing laundry making sandwiches for her family

>>35185994
At least she didn't file a SHARP report

>>35185985
I can imagine that soldier's disappointment.

>>35186096
Kek

>>35185586
SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST SEXIST

>>35185586
Women WERE a mistake, id rather have an extra rib

no
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2394531-marine-corps-force-integration-plan-summary.html

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>>35186643

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>>35187568

>>35186035
same reason that sluts have short hair, they feel the need to keep fucking with it and after a certain point all you can do to keep changing it is trim it shorter

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>>35187583

>>35185586
>How old were you when you realized women have nothing to do in front line roles, and barely even things like medic or logistics?
when I was old enough to comprehend the concept of the military in terms that were more complex than jets are cool.

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>>35187597

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>>35187615

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>>35187630

>>35187615
I cannot believe they edited the part where the dude just casually strolls into finish line while she's stroking out on the ground.

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>>35187642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20SrfEtLDZY

>>35187644
>leftists
>lying
Yeah, me neither

>>35187644
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STkhXT5i25c

>>35187644
I'm with you Anon, it pisses me off every time I see the WebM

>>35187679
>>35187664
>>35187644

Got the OG? It sounds pretty funny.

>>35187642
holy shit they must be drunk as fuck, imagine not being able to hoist your own body weight over something, thats like not being able to swim or wipe your ass or put socks on.

>>35187696
Watch the beginning of this >>35187675
As soon as the video starts you'll see that sly motherfucker to the right of the screen.

>>35186096
pretty sure a marine asked a female corpsman the same thing in a similar scenario and got njp'd. looking for the article.

>>35187653
Expectations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9cfR1J0qcw
Reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBjcmIe0taU

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>>35185586
they can't even stock shelves and run a cash register properly without creating drama, being lazy, complaining constantly, throwing their pussy around, dressing like a slut, and shirking their duties.

Whoever thought it was a good idea to put women in combat roles is either a Jew, or never worked with women

t. fag that had to serve with female MP's attached to their platoon in Iraq

>>35187501
>making it harder to suck your own dick

Get your priorities straight.

>>35186108
yeah you are about to die no more morphine and no boobies. that's just sad.

>>35187608
Jets are fucking rad

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>>35187738
>creating drama
I got a story for you.

>be on profile for major sprain
>unit has to go to ft polk for deployment raining
>go as supporting unit
>2 weeks are spend getting ready
>which really makes being lazy as fuck in a barracks and going to the pizza hut and shoppette every 2 hours
>watching bunch of rifles since I can't really walk around and do shit
>all of a sudden 3 NCO's walk into the barracks and start yelling high hell
>everybody has to go outside and line up for formation
>start getting smoked
>have to do overhead arm claps near my rifles, which all had to be slung over my back, while trying to balance on a crutch
>after about 20 minutes, we start getting briefed on sexual assault
>dude is pissed as fuck
>turns out a dude in my platoon (my actual platoon back at company) who's also doing supp role texted a chick
>chick who is also in my same platoon
>all he said was "I like you"
>showed the text to the NCO's that sniped him out
>apparently chick overreacted, cried, screamed bloody murder, some bullshit happened
>our barracks NCO's were literally pic related for a good 5 minutes trying to figure wtf is going on
>the main dude goes "You know what... just don't talk to women." and walks away
I'm not even kidding.

>>35187735
what were they telling the chick in the second video?

>>35187642
the guy jumping out pushes the boat away.
It's a regular narrenschiff.

>>35187738
i always thought that guys are just overly dramatic about this stuff. but no woman i ever met was able to convince me they are wrong.

i remember i used to box as a late teenager. there was this girl who was lifting weights possibly doing roids. she was huge had these intimidating muscles. if she was a man she could have crushed my bony ass easily. but she was a girl. so when i had to practice with her the following happened: i was really apprehensive getting hit at first i was sure she would take my head right off, so i carefully blocked every punch but it was like fighting a small child not only it was all weak but also slow and awkward. i tried to tell her what to do how to throw a proper punch. i tried to teach her how the power must flow from the sole through the hips into the trunk and shoulder and arms, how she should put her weight into it lean into it and snap it in the end. no luck there. it was like she was fighting with her own body not me. after a while i gave up just stood there and let her rub my face with her gloves. it was the comfiest face massage i ever got. it just felt utterly silly trying to block those gentle taps i couldn't lift my arms.

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>>35187615
>>35187630
>>35187642
We had this exact thread like a month ago.

>>35185901
>refused the soldier more morphine in fear it would kill him
>he's still talking

I hope she was at least bollocked for incompetence.

>>35185586
I have no problem with women serving in any role in the military, given that they can meet the same criteria the men do.

>>35187857
but they can't meet the same criteria

women have to be trained harder to get the same physical performance as men. Even then they peak short of the male peak.

this is a problem, as every military allows women to have a lower physical fitness standard.

>>35187820
She was moaning about feeling dizzy, instructors saying mean things to her and being splashed by people stepping in puddles, the officer offered her to go back to the truck and sit there instead of marching with the rest of the unit and she took it.

>>35187838
We have this exact thread every month

>>35187931
Some things should never be forgotten.

>>35187857
>given that they can meet the same criteria the men do
Well, see, that's kind of the problem.

>>35187876
Why don't we just kill them in training accidents?

>>35187615
>the basic march and just barly makes it

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>>35187875
>to get the same physical performance as men
That's just never going to happen, you either need to lower your standard or exclude them.

>>35187857
> implying instructors and NCOs are going to risk their career letting a woman fail at her job
Nobody wants to be that guy, nobody with ambition anyway.

>>35187984
but anon, don't you see that one green circle?
Name one good reason why we shouldn't let a psychotic 40 year old bull dyke who has been injecting inhuman levels of testosterone and hgh for 20 years into the military.

>>35187953
it's not a problem really just lower the standards you will have to soon enough with all the fags on estrogen and metrosexual weaklings nowadays.

you know a couple of years before if someone told me there will be a full on metrosexual young prick standing guard who obviously can't even lift a sleeping bag above his head as a member of the republic guard regiment in front of the fucking parliament, i would have laughed in his face. then i saw it a few day ago with my own eyes.

>>35188025
maybe it was a hooker who was used to strangling meaty cocks all day every day.

>>35188025
Do 40 year old people even apply for the military?

>>35187953
How so? It will result in very few women in combat arms, but I'm OK with that. As long as they're given the same opportunity as men.

>>35185586
What about the female-only unit in Norway, Jegertroppen?

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>>35188174
>female-only
>Norway

key phrases here

>>35188102
The marines limit enlistment age at 28
>>35188159
The majority of them can't meet the physical fitness requirements, which results in people lowering the standards to get more in and up diversity.
>>35188174
>"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.
They're literally security personnel

>>35188159
What's the upside of this deal for the military? It is just more problems and liability for nothing a man couldn't do better.

>>35188174
>During the War in Afghanistan, FSK commanders saw an operational need for female operators who would be able to communicate directly with women to gather intelligence and build community relations as male operators were forbidden from speaking to women due to religious and cultural constraints.[4][9] The FSK had been tasked with mentoring the Afghan Ministry of Interior Affairs Crisis Response Unit (CRU-222) based in Kabul and required female advisers for the CRU and also for arrests to take care of women and children.[3][10] Females had been eligible for entry into Norwegian Special Operation Forces, against the same male selection criteria, with several making it through the admission process but none had completed the selection phase being unable to compete with the physical strength of the males.
As I said here>>35188189 its literally just for women to communicate with other women.

>>35188102
I got a 41 year old PFC back in 2009. The Army eliminated all standards for initial entry to get their numbers up. Previous to that, the cut off was 36. I did attend basic with a 36 year old. The drill sgts constantly made fun of him for his age.

>>35188215
did he make it?

>>35188218
Yeah. though he was also a tiny korean. So I helped him a few times on ruck marches.

the 41 year old turned into a fine Ssg in minimal time too.

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>>35188174
Cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkZR2x_Gzoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dulb_lAh-0

>>35185586
>caring about whether soldiers die due to political considerations

nah, not even once

>>35188249
>special forces
They're not special forces, no female has ever passed norwegian special forces training

>>35188174
literally only exist to put up with the culture of current conflict zones. Since the West does't want to offend the people we are bombing and shooting.

>>35187984
>combinded

>>35188189
I oppose lowering the standards for combat arms. I want equality of opportunity.

>>35188193
The upside is political. Keeping women out of combat arms is discriminatory.

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1. allow women in the military
2. moan about toxic masculinity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwL_hGEK_QA

>>35188345
>rangers being placed on the same levels as navy fucking seals
i hate this world
>>35188340
its not discriminatory if they are literally worse at combat than men are
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units

feminism is cancer it's toxic destructive and will be the ruin of the west if left unchecked.

that said those who bitch and moan about women all the time are just the same. women will be filling combat roles eventually it looks pretty inevitable. it will cause problems and those problems will be solved. and there will be shittons of bitching and moaning in the coming years about them so i'm already tired of it.

>>35188459
>women will caused problems and those problems will be solved
not until we start giving soldiers fucking exosuits

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>>35187630
This still blows my mind. First time I saw this I thought they just grabbed a few random kids that have never ridden a dirt bike before

>>35188570
>oopsie hydraulic line broke
>now I am worse than dead weight :D
Or... We stick with men.

>>35187675
you can bitch all you want about womyn but drill sergeants are still the biggest drama queens by miles.

>>35188628
>hydraulic line broke
what are you smoking? no exo uses hydraulics shit is too heavy noisy and high maintenance and way overpowered for the job.

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>>35188694
How about female drill instructors?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uaxOVQx_Bo

Cmon guys I need those classy Russian fail reporter gifs

>>35188720
>How about female drill instructors?
you are right that could very well be even worse.

>>35188628
>We

implying the opinions of teenage edgelords will ever be considered by the politicians who control the military

>>35188801
You're right, they don't even listen to the people in the army or the statistics they bring up.

>>35188815

the military follows orders, politicians care about optics far more than the lives of soldiers

>>35185586
I'm done arguing about it. I want several all female battalions formed, well trained, wanting for nothing in regards to equipment. And I want cameras everywhere when they go into combat.

I can already hear the cucky fucks and mangynas making excuses for their failures. Hopefully they won't be effective and the film footage gets out.

>>35185586
The minute I saw one run from a spider.

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>>35188840
it will be all like this

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>>35188863
and this (you can clearly see on this picture how much danger these kurdish women are on the front lines)

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>>35188725

>>35188914
fucking awesome, altho i have seen my gf shoot aside from the infamous fucking chick lean if she can't prop the long guns she was doing rather well without any training whatsoever. more importantly she had fun shooting guns, even the big calibers.

Anon, when I was 4.

My wife shoots better than most men. Still wouldn't want her in my Fire team unless I had no other choice.

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As long as standards aren't lowered there's no problem; In fact, being a woman in a combat role will be hella prestigious because of how rare it would be.

>>35189027
thats the problem anon
the standards are lowered
and if they aren't the women are still 6x more prone to injuries

>>35189027
But standards are usually lowered for them and the few that make it through lower the units abilities and are at a much greater risk for injuries.

>>35188725
You want to see more fail? Watch this series: https://youtu.be/3T-RuxvzfNA
25 parts. Just look how easy they go on her and she still fucks up constantly. Of course the old fat guy does too but he's like 40 and super out of shape.

>>35189027
>this is what children of single moms raised on anime believe
lol

>>35188720
nothing inspires fear and respect like women with builds like a stickbug.

>>35185586
>we deserve an equal chance
>we deserve equal pay

>>gets crushed by young boys, again

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4389760/USA-women-s-team-suffer-5-2-loss-FC-Dallas-U-15-boys.html

>>35188709
>using electric
>requires a generator to not be a complete meme
No matter what, exosuits will have engines. Hydraulic offers better efficiency.

>>35188829
>the military follows orders
Part of the problem, if you ask me. Should be given a budget and a to-do list then left to get on with work.

>>35189133
remineder that dozens of thousands of boys age 13-15 consistently shatter women's world records in pretty much everything every year. (and that's just the US)

>>35189156
Really makes you think, huh?

>>35189139
it will be servo motors straight up churning gears anon, forget hydraulics or even pneumatics it has shittons of problems at this scale. you don't need a generator you need batteries with the right energy density is all. tons of technology is waiting for that so it will happen soon enough.

>>35189133
>>35189156
>>35189169
Consistently one of the reasons women get into firearms is because almost all men can overpower them. They don't want to fall victim to someone who can physically outmatch them. Every woman who CC's pretty much states this, yet I still have friends who say that women can do the same shit as men in the military and I just can't wrap my mind around the fucking stupidity of it.

>>35189190
>need batteries with the right energy density is all.
See: >>35189139

>tons of technology is waiting for that so it will happen soon enough.
Yeah... and fusion had been 50 years away for 100 years. Chemical energy storage is dozens of dozens times more energy dense, stop being an idiot.
You don't just get to blindly assert that a technology gets better, there has to be a physical basis for that claim. Computers had the square cube law working for it. Engines had energy differentials. What is there for battery technology that isn't just slightly less shit material X?
Chemical energy storage will always be king.

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>>35187834
That's a nice mental image.

>>35188025
Let's not be disingenuous. There's a good number of green circles above the male average around 20.

But that certainly implies that only the 99th percentile could keep up with combat operations.

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>>35189374
wrong

>>35187857
But they cant. Not only that they turn into sluts and cause jealousy and desceion in the ranks.

>>35189374
Meaning a freak of nature bulldyke is taking a slot any above average man could have used with better results. Either the mission matters or it doesn't, putting identity politics above practicality and common sense is a slippery slope.

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>>35189027
>as long as the standards aren't lowered meme

no, having females in combat has a negative effect even if you don't lower selection standards. Because you still have to logistically account for the additional complications that females provide.

>separate quarters
>procedure on when they're raped
>less unit cohesion because you're different from everyone else
>greater potential for sexual harassment litigation, which costs the military a great deal of money
>hatespeech nonsense against other soldiers, muh vagina

and on and on it goes. Having women in the military is about as worthwhile as having transgenders. In other words, its not.

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>>35189374
>There's a good number of green circles above the male average around 20
Not unless you're letting 12-year-olds into the military...

>>35188863
Post vid

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>>35189549

Women shouldn't be allowed in the service if I have to fucking attend SHARP meetings. Fuck that.

>>35189523
>separate quarters
Okay
>The rest of your post
Sounds more like females shouldn't be in the military because men can't keep it in their pants for 2 seconds or work with someone with a vagina

>>35189616
Wouldn't mind them in POG roles if they were actually good at their POG jobs.

>>35189625
>stuck on a base doing literally nothing for weeks on end
of course there's going to be fucking, but it should be kept off-base by keeping the women off-base. If the cost is higher to accommodate women, and their performance is lower, then its not worth having them in the army.

>>35189146

sure, politicians will hand their monopoly on violence over to the dumbfucks who willingly signed their lives over to the political class

>>35189625
its not just our soldiers, it's the enemy too. Guess what will happen the second a female solider is captured?

the military isn't your safe space equality zone.

>>35189625
>women take naked pics of themselves and spread them around
>get mad when people see them and cause the millitary to spend uncountable amounts of money on investigations, hearings, punishment and sharp meetings

The women are responsible for most of their issues

>>35188720
Complete jokes. Only their rank and position gives them any power over men.

>>35189650
>of course there's going to be fucking, but it should be kept off-base by keeping the women off-base
Okay, again, it sounds more like women shouldn't be in the military because men can't just use their hand to get rid of their "personal needs".
Also
>implying men won't just give each other no-homo brojobs with no women around

>If the cost is higher to accommodate women, and their performance is lower, then its not worth having them in the army.
Then just weed out the ones that do a shit job in infantry, or just place them in the medic and food areas, or just give them a job where they actually have to use their brains.

>>35189662
>it's the enemy too. Guess what will happen the second a female solider is captured?
I don't know what do they do with their male soldiers?
>>35189678
Like I said before, just weed out the dumbfucks and make room for the more competent ones

>>35189724
Sandniggers don't typically rape male adults.

>>35189710
>it sounds like women shouldn't be in the military because men can't keep their hands off them
The problem isnt men raping women, its men having consensual sex with women. As in, the women are in on it too. And no, they won't give each other brojobs, that shit doesn't happen.
>weed out the dumbfucks
You mean 99% of them? The costs of having 1% of the women make it through is still too high, considering that even those that make it through are still 6x more likely to be injured than males.

>>35189710
>>implying men won't just give each other no-homo brojobs with no women around
We had that problem solved with "be a fag, pick a bullet in the head or a dishonorable discharge", but someone went and ruined it.

>Then just weed out the ones that do a shit job in infantry
We could save a lot of time, money, resources, and effort by not letting them in at all.

>just place them in the medic
We could save a lot of time, money, resources, and effort by not letting them in at all.

>food areas
Why would we hire women to do something a machine could do for tens thousands times less. Or, just make one of the soldiers do it.

>just give them a job where they actually have to use their brains.
I've got bad news for you anon. You're not familiar with the distribution curve, are you?

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>>35189761
>I've got bad news for you anon. You're not familiar with the distribution curve, are you?

idiot males vastly outnumber idiot females in the military

pic related, arrow points to where the military recruits from

>>35189724
>just weed out the dumbfucks and make room for the more competent ones

we wouldn't have a military

>>35187615
>Fatbody manlets on /k/ think they could do a 12 mile with 45 lb ruck in 3 hrs
Top kek you fuckers stink like shit, don't hold your heads so high

>>35189785
and the smart males who are qualified for the smart jobs vastly outnumber the number of females

>>35189724
The competent ones are statistically nonexistent, modern women are all going to do stuff like that because its the social norm. Hell, a lot of the girls on /k/ have even posted slutty pics of themselves in the gwg threads

Women are cancer

>>35189807
>smart jobs
>in military

oh wow

>>35189785
>hurr durr look at this graph i just made

>>35189820
>not recognizing the scientifically proven gender/IQ distribution

found it on google images actually. i added the arrow.

>>35189813
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SATELLITE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS OPERATOR-MAINTAINER (25S)
SIGNAL SUPPORT SYSTEMS SPECIALIST (25U)
SIGNALS COLLECTION ANALYST (35S)
SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE ANALYST (35N)
TEST MEASUREMENT AND DIAGNOSTIC EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE SUPPORT SPECIALIST (94H)
AIR DEFENSE BATTLE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM OPERATOR (14G)
FIELD ARTILLERY AUTOMATED TACTICAL DATA SYSTEM SPECIALIST (13D)
SPECIAL FORCES COMMUNICATIONS SERGEANT (18E)
COMBAT DOCUMENTATION / PRODUCTION SPECIALIST (25V)
INTEGRATED FAMILY OF TEST EQUIPMENT (IFTE) OPERATOR/MAINTAINER (94Y)
WATERCRAFT OPERATOR (88K)
FIELD ARTILLERY FIREFINDER RADAR OPERATOR (13R)
PATRIOT FIRE CONTROL ENHANCED OPERATOR/MAINTAINER (14E)
PATRIOT LAUNCHING STATION ENHANCED OPERATOR/MAINTAINER (14T)
CABLE SYSTEMS INSTALLER-MAINTAINER (25L)

>>35189785
>implying the peaks are the the same points
>implying the curves have even distributions
>implying the female distribution is that wide
>implying an IQ of ~100 is suitable for even clerical work
>implying you're not a faggot
WEW

>>35189735
Yes, they just kill them
>>35189739
>The problem isnt men raping women, its men having consensual sex with women. As in, the women are in on it too
Then simply hire prostitutes for the pent up men in military, don't they still do that these days?
>You mean 99% of them? The costs of having 1% of the women make it through is still too high, considering that even those that make it through are still 6x more likely to be injured than males.

Then simply give them jobs in the medical field, women are more likely to steer towards jobs that want to help people anyway.
>>35189761
>I don't want women in the military because vaginas trigger me: the post

>>35189804
15 minutes per mile with a negligible amount of weight... More annoying than hard.

>>35189804
>implying
My Achilles tendons MIGHT keep from doing that right now, but nah, 45lb on my shit, walking 4mph isn't super demanding. Being a manlet would make it a bitch, sure, but then I could jog a bit to squeeze in more distance.

>>35189888
>Yes, they just kill them
I believe the point anon was making is that they limit it to boys.

>Then simply give them jobs in the medical field, women are more likely to steer towards jobs that want to help people anyway.
And why waste the resources when that could be a man instead?

>shitpost
How much of a faggot do you have to be to value virtue signaling over the efficacy of a military? Based on your post, the bar is pretty high.

>>35189888
whereas they rape <i>then</i> kill females

>>35189888
>then simply hire prostitutes for men in the military
prostitution is illegal and the public would throw a fit if they found out their tax dollars were used to buy prostitutes
>then simply give them jobs in the medical field
So noncombat jobs?

>>35189843
>cyber operations/network warfare/etc
run this binary coded by some civilian and spam the shit out of someone. i interviewed some "cyber" people for intro programming jobs and they literally could not program or script.

>radio operator/every single operator and maintainer job/support specialist/etc
follow a flowchart written by some civilian. if you still can't fix the problem, toss the equipment and get a new one. i interviewed a submarine electronics guy and he didn't know how an op-amp worked.

>multimedia illustrator
not even going to bother

>cable system installer
cable guy is smart?

>microbiologist
>lab scientist
Are these actual PhD level R&D jobs or technician jobs? If it's the latter, women will do just fine. Pro-tip: the military doesn't actually do any of its own cutting edge research.

>research psychologist
Women have more empathy so they are better at some forms of psychiatric work.

>CARRERS
lol

>>35189865

current scientific literature disagrees with your greentext. sorry.

>>35189888
Women are also worse at evacuating casualties, working overtime and other things that are necessary in the medical units

And they will have to have to be replaced more often do to the higher number of medical issues they suffer from, pregnancies etc they are a logistical nightmare

>>35188186
this is from finland

>>35189969
do finnish trannies still have sisu?

>>35189961
anon, your picture is literally just a proxy image to show the general difference between the shapes of the curves. It's literally just a picture that says "the male distribution is wider".
Fuck off, point to something in my post that was wrong instead of just shitposting.

>>35189982

male distribution is wider and therefore there are more male dumbasses than female dumbasses, and more male geniuses than female geniuses. you made a sarcastic statement about women doing brainy jobs (presumably, because they are not qualified).

but since the military hires dumbasses and not geniuses, women are actually more likely to be capable of doing the relatively brainier jobs in the military.

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>>35187857

>given that they can meet the same criteria the men do.
>implying

Even if they were able they bring other issues. Stuff like extra logistics and need for more trained and expensive medical personnel do to the fact that they are fiziologically different and need different care, more expensive and time consuming care at that.

They also are psychologically weaker than men, meaning that they have less combat endurance even if physically able and also consume more money and time once out of combat.

Women would also ruin unit cohesion if placed in mixed units. Meaning more money and time wasted on making segregated units.

Women also get pregnant which takes them out of action. Meaning the only real way you can have them serve is to sterilize them first and as such you need to pay em more, pay for the procedure and pay encase the procedure goes wrong. Otherwise you need to deal with the fact that they become useless after anyone stick their dick in.

All this money and time wasted for something that few women want and has no tactical and strategic value. In fact it's a detriment do to aforementioned things as well as the fact that they are less able.

Only people who want this are people pushing an agenda who don't give a single shit about the armed forces of their nations or the defense of their nations.

>>35190014
>Following the latest John Kerry brouhaha, a reader asked what the average IQ of U.S. military personnel is. From table 2.8 of the is Department of Defense document, I estimate that the average for new enlisted men in 1998 was about 105.
>average IQ among enlisted men is 105
Doesn't seem like they're hiring dumbasses to me

>>35189916
>I believe the point anon was making is that they limit it to boys.
Of course I know that, I was trying to be sarcastic, but failed miserably.
>And why waste the resources when that could be a man instead?
Women usually have more of a drive to help other people than men do, that's why so many choose to go in the medical field.
>How much of a faggot do you have to be to value virtue signaling over the efficacy of a military? Based on your post, the bar is pretty high.

While most of my posts were indeed shitposting, my main purpose in this thread was trying to find some shrivel of logic as to why men on this site bitch about women doing nothing and how they have "life on easy mode" (which is a myth by the way), and yet still continue to bitch when a woman wants to do something with her life outside of popping out kids. I've asked this type of question on every board, (/pol/, /r9k/, /adv/, etc.) And so far the only answer I've gotten was 'muh feminism was a mistake', I was hoping /k/ would provide some answer, but yet again, the most I've gotten was 'muh homemaker'

>>35190040
>to me
Because you are one of the dumber ones. To the dumb, everyone seems smart.

>>35189965
>Women are also worse at evacuating casualties, working overtime and other things that are necessary in the medical units
Do you have a source or are you just going by what you saw a few dumbasses do while in military?

>>35190067
not an argument

>>35190067
I'm not saying they're fucking geniuses, but they certainly aren't stupid.

>>35190040

you could have actually posted the document

https://web.archive.org/web/20040822024930/http://www.dod.mil/prhome/poprep98/html/2-afqt.html

what is the link of table 2.8 to IQ? sounds like total fucking bullshit because the implication here is category III is somehow normalized against IQ 100.

amusingly this document talks about how recalibration of the AFQT led to an increase in blacks and hispanics in the higher categories. you can draw your own conclusion.

>>35190062
>women having life on easy mode
>a myth

Wut? They get government assistance over men in most areas, get hired and promoted based on their gender alone, have longer lives, less workplace deaths, have hundreds of women willing to support them, protest for them and donate money at the drop of a social media post.

How is it not easier for women in the modern western society?

>>35190062

>I was hoping /k/ would provide some answer, but yet again, the most I've gotten was 'muh homemaker'

There you go, baldy formatted and abusing autocorrect, here is why Women don't belong in the military. >>35190035

And I have more to add.
In the case of total war and especially if it devolves into pure attrition you need constant manpower. If you have 50/50 men and women distribution at the start of the war and let's say 1 million people for that generation and 20/80 in the middle of it or after with 700,000 you can still make up for all the lost people in that generation, if you end the war with 50/50 but only 500,000 you have severely reduced the manpower of that nation for the next generation. You need women back home to pump babys not catch a bullet in the head.


> yet still continue to bitch when a woman wants to do something with her life outside of popping out kids.
Women don't go in the military because they want to do something more than have kids, they do it because they "want to send a message" and become a career woman. The type of woman who does either of those things will never have kids.

>>35190095
The casualties thing is in the marine study and quick google search will show you that women work less overtime than men

>>35190095

Women have less upper body strenght. As such they can't lift as much weight.

>>35190156
thats racist

>>35190175

I know I am a filthy anti-semite

>>35190136

>In the case of total war and especially if it devolves into pure attrition you need constant manpower. If you have 50/50 men and women distribution at the start of the war and let's say 1 million people for that generation and 20/80 in the middle of it or after with 700,000 you can still make up for all the lost people in that generation, if you end the war with 50/50 but only 500,000 you have severely reduced the manpower of that nation for the next generation. You need women back home to pump babys not catch a bullet in the head.

God I fucked up that logic. No what I meant is that if you have both women and men serving roughly equally in a military in an attrition war if you lose equal numbers of men and women it's worse than if you lose more men than women because men are expendable and do to nature of biology one man can make up for multiple lost men, women can't do the same.

Burbon and sleep deprivation don't mix kids.

>>35189047
>>35189063
>as long as standards aren't lowered
There was a reason I included this part. I know standards are lowered. They shouldn't be. There might be a chance if they weren't lowered.
>>35189087
Not an argument, and also false. If some bulldyke can meet the requirements of being a Ranger or whatever, let them.
>>35189523
They should know what they're getting into and be given the same treatment for their sexual harassment claims as a man. If you think a woman who proves herself as capable as the rest of the soldiers will cause unit cohesion problems you're a dummyhead.

>>35190129
>Wut? They get government assistance over men in most areas
Okay
>get hired and promoted based on their gender alone
??? In what ass backwards country do you live in where people only get hired by gender and not merit?
>inb4 affirmative action
Don't even go there, affirmative action ensures that you don't reject an applicant BECAUSE of their race/gender, not that you HAVE to hire them because of their race/gender.
>have longer lives
First of all, that's something nature intended, it's not some magical power that females used in order to fight the patriarchy.
>less workplace deaths
Aren't most workplace deaths from trade jobs? Something that's more male-dominated?
>have hundreds of women willing to support them, protest for them and donate money at the drop of a social media post
Third wave feminists bitches protesting against the patriarchy don't count, because it meant they were crazy from the start. Also most of the instagram bitches that get money donated to them are from thirsty incels and "nice guys" hoping to get a shot at some pussy.

Also do you think ugly women get the same social privileges as that 10/10 blonde-haired blue-eyed Aryan goddess?

>>35190211
You haven't addressed the higher costs associated with keeping women in the army, the fact that politicians will inevitably lower the standards in order to make the armed forces more "diverse", the problems associated with unit integrity or the injury rate that women have which is 6x higher than the men's rate.
Or that all-male units function better ANYWAYS.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units

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>>35190213
>affirmative action ensures that you don't reject an applicant BECAUSE of their race/gender

That law existed long before affirmative action was a thing. Affirmative action is a real thing

>>35190211

Answer this faggot >>35190035

>>35190206
>>35190136
Okay then, I can see the problems in letting them go on the battlefield. But what about medical fields or any other field that would require them to use their brain? If you keep throwing men out and letting them get wounded, someone has to patch them up to make sure they can fight back in the war, why not let them go in those fields? You said yourself men, by nature, are more expendable, whereas women aren't. Hell, during World War I they were practically begging women in military, even if it was only for medical jobs.

>>35190213
So how do women not have it easier than men?

Also gender quotas are a thing. The Australian military just put a hold on hiring men to bring up the amount of women, Trudeau hired half his cabinet specifically because they are women and a pot of people in western nations think its a good idea

>that's something nature intended

Not really, in under developed countries men typically survive the harsh conditions better and have longer life expectancies. In the west women pay the same amount for medical coverage as a men but cost more and use medical services at a hire rate, which is a part of why the have longer life expectancies

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>>35185586
Do you guys think the taliban has the right strategy? Have the men fight and have the women take carer of the home/children and have teenage/young adult men protect the village.

>>35190290

>But what about medical fields or any other field
We have had nursing cores for nearly 3 centuries now. Nobody has argued about that.

Whatabaoutism doesn't change my point especially since in some cases medical elements are separate from the army.

Nobody means nurses and medics when they talk about women in the army.
As for stuff using their brain but nowhere near the battlefield. I don't think anyone would argue about stuff like women working on weapons design if capable or anything else of similar nature. And it's also not a point people bring up when talking about women in the military.

>>35190040
>average IQ of 105
>not dumbasses
Bad news anon

>>35190335
>average IQ is slightly above average
>dumbass

>>35190311
For give the spelling and grammar I've been drinking

>>35190311
>So how do women not have it easier than men?
Ask ugly women or women over the age of 40

>Also gender quotas are a thing. The Australian military just put a hold on hiring men to bring up the amount of women, Trudeau hired half his cabinet specifically because they are women and a pot of people in western nations think its a good idea
That sounds like a problem the cucked west may have, you know, what with hiring people only because identity politics, but meanwhile everywhere else hires people because merit.

>Not really, in under developed countries men typically survive the harsh conditions better and have longer life expectancies. In the west women pay the same amount for medical coverage as a men but cost more and use medical services at a hire rate, which is a part of why the have longer life expectancies

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-is-life-expectancy-lo/

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.weforum.org/agenda/2017/03/why-do-women-live-longer-than-men

Looks like we're both right, it's partly biological and partly sociological

>>35190335
see >>35190105
105 claim is bullshit. smart people going to college and grad school don't bother taking the AQFT. the AQFT sample pool is already skewed towards the dumbshit side of the curve.

>>35190399

>Ask ugly women or women over the age of 40
I didn't know that if a woman is ugly she suddenly will get less support from organizations that help women which there are more of than organizations which help men and are better funded.

And I didn't know that all the societal taboos that help women don't work on ugly women so it's suddenly ok for me to have fist cuffs with a woman if shes ugly.

>>35190399
Aren't we talking about western nations though? They are the only ones pushing for women in the military

>Ask ugly women or women over the age of 40

You mean the women that still benefit from all the affirmative action, government assistance, women only grants and scholarships, gender quotas, and strong social networks of other ugly and pretty girls that will be justice warriors for their benefit if they believe the ugly girl is suffering from sexism or any other slight?

Have you ever seen an ugly girl in a bar that didn't get a free drink?

>>35190466
>believing every woman is an sjw who would even want people brigading on her behalf

I think I know why you're single, anon

>>35185586

Around when I got my first job, and realized my fat ass could literally pick up and throw the average woman, while the average woman can't even lift something that weighs 100lbs.

>>35190426
Yeah, to be honest, when I was talking about social privileges women have, I was moreso asking to compare an ugly womans privileges to a beautiful woman's priviliges.

Also
>I didn't know that if a woman is ugly she suddenly will get less support from organizations that help women which there are more of than organizations which help men and are better funded.

Those woman's help organisation are usually either funded by feminists or other women, the same way a men's help organisation is funded by other men (or mgtows which are the male equlavent to feminists). Also there's nothing stopping a man from building a men's help organisation, the problem is that men feel like they have to suffer in silence rather than express their feelings like normal human beings.

>And I didn't know that all the societal taboos that help women don't work on ugly women so it's suddenly ok for me to have fist cuffs with a woman if shes ugly.
Tbh, even if you were a man having a streetfight with another man you'd still be looked at like you were a nigger.

>>35190492
Married three years now actually, are you trying to avoid the question?

It doesn't really matter if they want it to happen, it happens and in a time of need anyone will use whatever advantage they can get.

>>35190517
Ugly women may have slightly less social privileges than pretty women but they still have much more than men.

>>35189888
It's a grill...

>>35190517

>I was moreso asking to compare an ugly womans privileges to a beautiful woman's priviliges.

Your ugly woman and pretty woman still have more privileges than your average joe.

>Those woman's help organisation are usually either funded by feminists or other women, the same way a men's help organisation is funded by other men (or mgtows which are the male equlavent to feminists). Also there's nothing stopping a man from building a men's help organisation, the problem is that men feel like they have to suffer in silence rather than express their feelings like normal human beings.
Nothing you said is even remotely relevant or dismissed my point. Do you deny the existence of those organizations or their disproportions?

>Tbh, even if you were a man having a streetfight with another man you'd still be looked at like you were a nigger.
Tbh only retards use desu. And do you suffer from something that reduces your faculties. I was clearly making a hyperbole to underline that weather a woman is ugly or not does not change the current societal taboos and what is seen as appropriate interaction between men and women.

And you are not a man you get into a brawl.

>>35190590

>And you are not a man you get into a brawl.
And you are not a man until you get into a brawl.

Fuck I need more bourbon.

>>35190466
>Aren't we talking about western nations though? They are the only ones pushing for women in the military
Didn't Syria have a military unit for women?
>affirmative action
Again, affirmative action ensures that you don't reject an applicant BECAUSE of their race/gender, not that you HAVE to hire them because of their race/gender.
>government assistance
I'll give you that, but only because most of the government assistance laws date back to the 1950s. (Look at divorce laws)
>women only grants and scholarships,
>Men only grants and scholarships don't exist
>gender quotas
Only in cucked nations that have to rely on identity politics
>and strong social networks of other ugly and pretty girls that will be justice warriors for their benefit if they believe the ugly girl is suffering from sexism or any other slight?
>All womyn r es-jay-double-yoos
Also I love how your implying that men don't have strong social networks of other men they could use to benefit themselves.
>Have you ever seen an ugly girl in a bar that didn't get a free drink?
Have you ever seen one that did?

>>35190244
I addressed the lower standards, read better. I also addressed unit integrity. If you think a man who sees a woman doing the exact same shit as him to the same exacting standards won't think of her as part of the unit then you need to get out more.

Don't those female units with higher injury rates have lowered standards? If not then fair enough, they're more accident prone. But if they have lower standards, then the greater injury rate is because of the lowered standards. Less capable soldiers have more injuries, regardless of gender.

Higher costs in regards to what? Keeping things separate and treating the women differently from the men? Other than pregnancies because of your soldiers fucking, there are none. Fix that by making pregnancy an automatic dishonorable discharge; If she's raped (she better report it and have a rape kit done for proof) execute her rapist via firing squad and either support the pregnancy and resulting child, offer her an abortion, or an honorable discharge.

>>35190264
>>35190035
Medical care expenses are the only leg this has to stand on, except they can have civvie doctors tend to anything women-specific and combat medical care is effectively no different.

Psychological weakness is taken care of during training via brainwashing. Why do you think they do it? Not many humans, man or woman, are capable of the mental fortitude needed for combat. They are given coping mechanisms during training, relying on unit cohesion (which won't be much of a problem as female infantry would be very rare and so manly the difference would be negligible) and other things. Those who are capable are shit like Navy SEALS and Green Berets, not chucklefuck infantry.

A lot of what you are talking about being wasted is either unnecessary in the first place or so minimal as to be pointless. The agenda being pushed is freedom of oppurtunity, something all humans should be given.

>>35187834
It's alright. No one else could teach Ronda rousey how to box either

>>35190605
>not a man until you get into a brawl
I've won every fistfight I've been in and this is bullshit.

>>35190534
Only 3 years? That explains how it's lasted. Good luck bro but with your attitude she'll leave in about 2 more. Or start cheating on you, either way.

>>35190633
>don't those female units with higher injury rates have lower standards?
The female physical fitness standards are only 10% lower than men, and yet their rates of accident are still 6x higher.
>costs in regard to what
Building seperate sanitary and dormitory facilities, the cost of birth control and feminine hygiene products, having to stock medication to deal with menstrual cramps, and the fucking incessant SHARP training that everyone is subjected to for literally no reason.
The argument "lol just don't lower standards!" doesn't work because they lower standards anyways to get the numbers up.

>>35190633

>except they can have civvie doctors tend to anything women-specific and combat medical care is effectively no different.
Yes we will have combat gynecologists deployed on the battlefield which will need training and payment to function on the battlefield. Not to mention you will also need to pack in the extra medical supplies meaning less space for vital equipment per supply transport. Because who wouldn't trade a box of ammo for a box of tampax.

> Psychological weakness is taken care of during training via brainwashing

Yes male soliders still get PTSD and combat fatigue.

>They are given coping mechanisms during training, relying on unit cohesion
Which are not enough as any fucking combat data will show you. A solider has a set period where he is mentally able on the battlefield before he needs rest time and eventually discharge and after discharge he needs care to make sure he functions in society. Women will last longer in sustained combat, require more rest and have a shorter combat life than a male solider and cost more money after discharge as they will have a higher chance of stuff like PTSD and a higher chance of being more severe.

>which won't be much of a problem as female infantry would be very rare and so manly the difference would be negligible
Have you never been in social situations where you had lots of guys and one or two girls?
Have you not noticed guys hitting on the girls, trying to get their attention by doing this for them, fighting over them, eventually banging and bringing all the stress that a relationship brings to a group. You can't change how evolution has made man react around women, especially at the age of your average trooper. Only an autist would claim women don't affect unit cohesion.

>A lot of what you are talking about being wasted is either unnecessary in the first place or so minimal as to be pointless.
Money and time is unnecessary now?

>freedom of oppurtunity
Which is meaningless and useless in the context.

>>35190656

>I've won every fistfight
>How do you do fellow males

>>35190492
>>35190699 Is not me but I checked his dubs. In a time of need some people have standards and some don't. Regardless of how much help I need I won't take any from those absolute retards on the far left no matter how much they screech about internalize misogyny. I make my own damn decisions and accept the consequences that come out of them.

>>35190631
>only in cucked nations

Do you mean western nations? Aren't they who we are talking about?

>also I love how you are implying men don't have strong social networks

I love how you are implying that they are even halfway close to being the same thing as what women have, remember the mattress girl case? Can you imagine random men going to the lengths random women go to help women in situations like that?

I've seen women hook up with guys literally half their body weight. How many ugly female virgins do you think there are compared to ugly male virgins?

>>35190590
>Nothing you said is even remotely relevant or dismissed my point. Do you deny the existence of those organizations or their disproportions?
Of course I acknowledge them dipshit, it would be difficult not to. My point was that the reason why the number is so disproportionate is because a good majority of those women-only help centers were built and funded by modern day third wave feminists who still believe in rape culture. That's why it's so easy for a chick, Good or ugly, to go to a nearest help center. Whereas so few men actually take the time to build a men's help center because their too busy killing themselves.

>Tbh only retards use desu.
Do you know where you are faggot?

>And do you suffer from something that reduces your faculties. I was clearly making a hyperbole to underline that weather a woman is ugly or not does not change the current societal taboos and what is seen as appropriate interaction between men and women.

Well, I suppose you're right. I guess the only reason women have life on easy mode is because societal expectations of men made by men and expectations of women being made by women and men.

>And you are not a man until you get into a streetfight with some faggot

Fucking nigger

>>35190800
Men's social actions are dictated by their desire to find a mate, the expectations put on men are women's expectations of what a suitable man is.

>>35190800

> I guess the only reason women have life on easy mode is because societal expectations
And those societal expectations are built on biology.

>Fucking nigger

T.Roasty Mc Toasty TM

>>35190703
Even a 10% reduction in physical capability can have dire consequences. Not everything will be a 1:1 relationship. Already addressed that separate sanitary and dormitory facilities are unnecessary with proper procedures for dealing with men unable to keep it in their pants or just jack off instead.

Here's a riddle for you; If SHARP is unnecessary, why do people worry about women getting raped? Pick one. Have the right procedures in place and you can differentiate fake rape from real rape, find out that real rape doesn't happen, and deal with the false accusers accordingly.

>The argument "lol just don't lower standards!" doesn't work because they lower standards anyways to get the numbers up.
Yes, and they shouldn't, because that's retarded.

>>35190720
>combat gynecologists
Fucking lol, no. Tampax is one thing, gynecologists are another. That said, I agree that women do have a higher upkeep cost; But the fact that they should be rare as fuck means those won't be that common.

>PTSD
We already take shit care of the male soldiers who get PTSD. Maybe if more female soldiers do, SJWs can brigade for better PTSD care, which is something everyone should want.

>only an autist
Safely disregarded your opinion immediately. I'm a straight man, I hang around women just fine without trying to bone every single one. Literally not an issue.

>Money and time is unnecessary
No, they're the part that would be "so minimal as to be pointless." Like I said, female combat soldiers are going to be rare as long as standards aren't lowered. The cost increase won't be that large.

>freedom of opportunity is useless
It's literally the entire point of letting women in at all. They have the opportunity to do whatever they want. If they fail training, they don't get in. Super simple.

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>>35190733
What did he mean by this?

>>35189523
>greater potential for sexual harassment litigation, which costs the military a great deal of money
>hatespeech nonsense against other soldiers, muh vagina
Realistically, I don't see this being a problem with the type of women who could actually make the male standard. They tend to be far more responsible, level-headed, and aware of their own deficiencies than most other women.

>>35189625
Anon, you don't seem to understand how fucked sexual assault litigation is in America. Our Secretary of Education is being crucified by the media, academics, and the twitters because she took the side of "you can't just expel men because someone claims they were assaulted". We're in the middle of a crusade in this country, to the point that their are people claiming we need to punish 10 innocent men so 1 potential rapist is intimidated.

>>35188102
We had a couple guys on my recruit course who where in their 40s, they were both civi machinists joining as armorers. At tech school we had this army dude on my floor who joined in his mid 40s and would get up every morning at 5 to go to the gym and would go again at night so that he could keep pace with the guys in their 20s.

>>35188720
The only female recruit instructor i ever saw people actually respect was the one who treated us like normal people and didn't act like she was compensating for lack of a penis.

>>35190782
>Do you mean western nations? Aren't they who we are talking about?

I was mostly referring to any nation that doesn't have to resort to identity politics. So no.

>I love how you are implying that they are even halfway close to being the same thing as what women have,
I think they're just about even, I'm sure it isn't that difficult to imagine men with connections to other men in higher power.

>remember the mattress girl case?
I don't even know what that is but I get the feeling that you think some cherry picked news cast is the general rule.

>I've seen women hook up with guys literally half their body weight.
>How many ugly female virgins do you think there are compared to ugly male virgins?

Hey, you don't know, this is the internet do you think women like "the blowfly girl" are 9/10's with fair skin and DD cups?

>inb4 who is the blowfly girl?

http://blowflygirl.blogspot.ca/2009/08/here-is-my-maggot-story.html?m=1&zx=8697f16882f1863f

>>35190845

>But the fact that they should be rare as fuck means those won't be that common.
You still need to put the fucking infrastructure in to support them you tato. Do I need to explain fucking logistics to you now?

>We already take shit care of the male soldiers who get PTSD. Maybe if more female soldiers do, SJWs can brigade for better PTSD care, which is something everyone should want.
That was not my point you retard. My point was not just PTSD but mental combat fatigue and how women are also more likely to get it.

>Literally not an issue.

You have not answered or countered anything you are just defending yourself like I struck a nerve.

Many a men + some women - space + time = Reduced unit cohesion.

The point is not weather you try and fucking bang em is that laws of biology dictate that somebody fucking will. You give enough time and eventually someone will shag something they are not supposed to.

>The cost increase won't be that large.

You still need to build the infrastructure to allow women in. Which takes time and money.

>It's literally the entire point of letting women in at all.
That point is useless and meaningless to a nations armed force. Since women don't help a military defeat an enemy, which is the goal of an armed force.

>>35190845
>I agree that women do have a higher upkeep cost; But the fact that they should be rare as fuck means those won't be that common.

But all the women who wash out do to injuries will get medical care supplied by the government and the issues they have could last for years to come. And if they would be that rare is it worth the added logistical strain for a rare and very injury prone soldier that will be less capable than the average soldier?

>>35189523
>Having women in the military is about as worthwhile as having transgenders. In other words, its not.
Nobody should care about the gender of the person saving their f*cking life on the battlefield.

>>35188025
>Name one good reason why we shouldn't let a psychotic 40 year old bull dyke who has been injecting inhuman levels of testosterone and hgh for 20 years into the military.
Because we don't allow in men with duck feet, and those men are much less of a risk to combat effectiveness.

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>>35187630
This one smells like Males Rights Aktuvist edginess. I'm sure there have been plenty of fuck ups from male dirt bike riders who compete at the same level. I can go make clips and say they suck at being soliders because L-O-L they crashed. Competing at a level that is not the top tier competition. Like I'm sure the male dominated circuits are. Women suck at most competitive sports, but a bunch of clips showing them crashing in a sport where you can find hundreds of males also crashing doesn't make sense.

In a lot of sports women have an easier time getting sponsored to compete in all-female competitions because those sponsors want more women to get into the sport. More to the point to buy their gear when they do get into the sport.

>>35190910

The logistics officer who has to pack all the special meds in with the rest of the supplies will have to care.
So will the medic taking care of the unit so as to get the training required to care for them.
So will the psychiatrist who will have to manage all the extra mental illness brought on.

>>35190910
It's not about saving their life on the battlefield it's that fact you are turning away men who could do a better job just so that you can feel better about yourself.

>>35190920

> I'm sure there have been plenty of fuck ups from male dirt bike riders who compete at the same level.
Women never compete with men on the same level in any sport.
That's why there are women's divisions and men's divisions in all sports.

>>35190826
>And those societal expectations are built on biology.

I don't think biology ever stopped man from hitting a woman. Just look at Muslim majority countries.

>T.Roasty Mc Toasty TM
T. Tyronus Watermelonus Deshoniquous the 3rd
I bet you think going to jail makes you cool

>>35190920

I might be the guy who made that comment in the picture.

>>35190946

>I don't think biology ever stopped man from hitting a woman
Yes it has because if you kill the woman then you don't get to fuck her and propagate your genes.

>I bet you think going to jail makes you cool
I have never had any trouble with the law.
But my point still stands, if you have never been in a fight you are not a man. Because when you are in a fight you are standing up for yourself, it's not the actual wining or losing of the fight or even really anything about the mechanics. It's that for once in your fucking life you take the liability of getting hurt and the responsibility of beating someone up to stand up for yourself. Something no woman is able to understand.

>>35190924
Not that anon but

>The logistics officer who has to pack all the special meds in with the rest of the supplies will have to care.
So will the medic taking care of the unit so as to get the training required to care for them.
So will the psychiatrist who will have to manage all the extra mental illness brought on.
>focusing on all these minute details because autism

I'm pretty sure all of this is a given regardless of the gender.

>>35190986

>I'm pretty sure all of this is a given regardless of the gender.
Men and women are not the same, they have different needs to function since they are different.

And all transgenders suffer from gender phosphoric so they can't serve anyway.

>>35191003

>gender phosphoric
I meant gender dysphoria. Fuck auto correct.

>>35190213
>??? In what ass backwards country do you live in where people only get hired by gender and not merit?
Canada
>Don't even go there, affirmative action ensures that you don't reject an applicant BECAUSE of their race/gender, not that you HAVE to hire them because of their race/gender.
I refer you to any of the tables posted in this thread
>First of all, that's something nature intended, it's not some magical power that females used in order to fight the patriarchy.
Natural abilities aren't easy mode?
>Aren't most workplace deaths from trade jobs? Something that's more male-dominated?
Why do you think it's male-dominated?
>Third wave feminists bitches protesting against the patriarchy don't count, because it meant they were crazy from the start. Also most of the instagram bitches that get money donated to them are from thirsty incels and "nice guys" hoping to get a shot at some pussy.
Money buys the same amount of makeup whether it comes from a virgin or a sugardaddy.

And fuck you for reducing me to your petty reddit line-by-line style of argument.

>>35190879
>I think they're just about even, I'm sure it isn't that difficult to imagine men with connections to other men in higher power

Are you joking? Women have an ingrained bias towards other women (men are also biased to help women, as seen in the bystander effect and the women are wonderful effect) if you post anything on social media as a woman you will get support from random women, even if its just someone to talk you will still be better off than a man

Men don't network with powerful men unless they themselves are powerful

>mattress girl
>cherry picking

We live in the era of "rape culture" where even an accusation of wrongdoing will end your career even of its proven that you did nothing wrong, and in the eyes of the court and public opinion its always guilty until proven innocent in rape cases

>>35190980
>Yes it has because if you kill the woman then you don't get to fuck her and propagate your genes.

No one said anything about killing, I said hitting.

>I have never had any trouble with the law.
Mm.
>But my point still stands, if you have never been in a fight you are not a man. Because when you are in a fight you are standing up for yourself, it's not the actual wining or losing of the fight or even really anything about the mechanics. It's that for once in your fucking life you take the liability of getting hurt and the responsibility of beating someone up to stand up for yourself.

The only thing I can agree with you in your post is that the only time you should get into a streetfight is in the case of self-defense. As for the rest of your post, it sounds like men like getting into fights for the purpose of sating some internal inferiority complex.
>Something no woman is able to understand.
You're right, because we're not dumb enough to go around picking random streetfights with other women for the sake of something as stupid as 'muh male pride'.

>>35190845
>seperate sanitary and dormitory facilities are unnecessary with proper procedures for dealing with men unable to keep it in their pants
You keep saying that, but the issue isn't just men, its BOTH men and women.
>and they shouldn't, because that's retarded
Guess what? They still fucking do. You saying that it's retarded doesn't change the facts.
>higher cost per soldier is balanced out by having lower numbers of women in the services
Why the hell would we pay more for the same amount of work?

>>35191003
I meant the whole packing supplies and shipping off and therapy, even if men and women are different, they still have to undergo the same shit, even with different standards

>>35191064
But they don't. Statistically speaking, women undergo more shit than men.

I can guarantee you that casualty didn't move quickly enough or even made it in one pull.

>All that surface area on a hardball
>Pulled by a female
Lmfayo. t. Medic

>>35191054
>They still fucking do
Yeah and? All of the discussion is predicated on NOT LOWERING STANDARDS. Bringing it up at all is fucking pointless.

>>35191072
Apples and Oranges

>>35191048

>No one said anything about killing, I said hitting.

Hit too hard and you will kill, that's why even muslims limit how hard you can hit a woman.


>The only thing I can agree with you in your post is that the only time you should get into a streetfight is in the case of self-defense.
I never said streefight. Stop putting words in my mouth I am not a whore like you so I don't take everything down my throat.

>of sating some internal inferiority complex.
I sense projecting.

>You're right, because we're not dumb enough to go around picking random streetfights with other women for the sake of something as stupid as 'muh male pride'.
I never said anything about picking fights, streetfights or pride let alone male pride. I even stated it's not about winning.

I said it's merely about liability and responsibility. Two words few women understand the meaning of.

>>35191080
How the hell is that apples and oranges?

>>35191064

>whole packing supplies
Men don't need tampons and you will need to pack tampons in.

>and therapy
They will need different type of therapy.

>>35191079
>bringing it up at all is fucking pointless
We're talking about how women might realistically (and there's the key word, REALISTICALLY) be integrated into combat units. Lowering standards is a real thing that people end up doing in order to get more women into combat roles, so yes, it is entirely relevant to bring it up.

>>35189804
>tfw BMI 33.6 and 25% body fat
>Can still do this because it's legitimately not difficult at all
>Have dragged heavier deer further in less time

Yeah, nah, bitches need to git gud.

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>>35190935
That depends what you define as a sport, but yeah in general they don't. Nowhere did I say they were.

>>35190955
kek

>>35189804
I can motherfucking guarantee if you put the typical Fatbody from here through 2 months of current year BCT even integrated with Females to shape up a little bit they can pass 12 miles in 3 hours.

>>35187738
paki spy maybe?

>>35191132
>That depends what you define as a sport, but yeah in general they don't. Nowhere did I say they were.

There are actual Darts Leagues just for women because if they play men at DARTS they'll get their shit smoked.

>>35191079
But women continue to force standards lower.

To be a firefighter in Australia you used to have to be able to drag a 90kg dummy 20 meters, now you can carry a 30kg weight 10 meters, can you guess why?

>>35191159
because they tripled the amount of firefighters they have, so now you only have to carry 1/3 as much weight?

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>>35191084
>Hit too hard and you will kill, that's why even muslims limit how hard you can hit a woman.
Maybe if you were built like a brick shithouse or you were the One Punch Man than yes.
>I never said streefight.
Streetfight, fistfight, brawl, what-the-fuckever, like there's a difference anyway. If it's unorganized and not set up in a ring, it's just some streetfight between two niggers.
>Stop putting words in my mouth I am not a whore like you so I don't take everything down my throat.
HOLY FUCK. BRUH I JSUT GOT ROASTED LIKE SOME FRENCH TOASTXDXDXD.
>I sense projecting.
You sense bullshit
>I never said anything about picking fights, streetfights or pride let alone male pride. I even stated it's not about winning.
>I said it's merely about liability and responsibility. Two words few women understand the meaning of.

Regardless at the end of the day it's just some dipshits getting into a fight over nonsense, when they could've easily talked it out or simply walked away.

I'm done arguing with some faggot, later nigger. Try not to get arrested for public disturbance next time you go streetfight with some retard.

>>35187644
A better view

https://youtu.be/watch?v=iHePxxS0K7o

>>35191181
did i at least make you laugh anon

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>>35191204
The Asian guy watching it really is the icing on the cake, its been a while since I watched this

>>35191189

>Maybe if you were built like a brick shithouse or you were the One Punch Man than yes.
Or you keep hitting or use too big of a stick.

>HOLY FUCK. BRUH I JSUT GOT ROASTED LIKE SOME FRENCH TOASTXDXDXD.
Calm your tits.

>when they could've easily talked it out or simply walked away.
And that's why a woman will never understand. If all you do in life is walk away, why even exist?
If you are not able to stand up for yourself in an environment where you are not under great risk of harm or stress. What will you do when shit hits the fan?
If you are a woman you just suck the dick of the first guy that offers you shelter.
If you are a man you either fight or die.
If women were in charge of America the US would still be a British Colony.

I never said you should go picking fights, do it constantly, or even be violent. It's that you can't be a man till you get in a fight once.

>>35185880
agreed

>>35190656
I've won every fistfight I've been in too. The statement is vacuously true.

>>35185901
KEK!

>>35191266
>I need to validate my inferiority complex: the post

You truly opened my eyes, it's no wonder why men are so much more expendable then women when it comes down to it. Your only true purpose in life is to live and propogate your genes/species, how are you going to do such a thing when you're too busy putting yourself in dangerous situations like a dumbass, all for the sake of """muh male pride"""? You're an idiot. I will admit though, this post truly makes me laugh because you sound no different than the dumbasses that feel for the MUHRINES meme. But as I said, I must be going, the only reason why I stayed long enough was to see if you would take the bait. And judging by your post, you took it quite nicely.

>>35190605
Any child can have tantrum and get into a fight

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>>35191341

>>35191341

>I need to validate my inferiority complex: the post
>the only reason why I stayed long enough was to see if you would take the bait. And judging by your post, you took it quite nicely.

Yes hole the whole reason you said you will leave but didn't was because you wanted me to take the b8. No miss it had nothing to do with your inferiority complex.

> Your only true purpose in life is to live and propogate your genes/species

How are you going to propagate if you can't stand up for yourself?
What if there is a food shortage, will you just starve instead of fighting to get food?
>how are you going to do such a thing when you're too busy putting yourself in dangerous situations
I never fucking said putting yourself in dangerous situation you stupid hole. I said the exact fucking opposite. Stop putting words in my mouth and twisting what I said.
If you think a fight is fucking dangerous then get out of your house. Your normal fight, which you probably will only have to be in one or two in your whole life will stop way before blood is drawn.

But what would you know, besides being a woman which makes you incapable of understanding it. You probably never in your life ever got to know a man well enough to even begin to empathize with HIM.

>>35191345

I never fucking said anything about having a tantrum.

>>35187630
this one is a little invalid. The Enduro X is supposed to have a pretty difficult track and the mens races that happened right before wasnt lacking in errors. also the announcers stress even during the mens that the more the track was raced on the more difficult it was going to get since there was no grooming between heats and the womens raced last. also the womens pool for pro moto cross is so small theres probably so little talent none of them can even handle it well(women's had a single heat with 9 racers and mens had 3 heats with 10 races each). or the amount of excuses needed to justify this is just more evidence of there incompetance. idk.

>>35190920
>Like I'm sure the male dominated circuits are.
someone post the woman 'engineer' holding a soldering iron by the tip compilation please.

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>>35191538

> woman 'engineer' holding a soldering iron by the tip compilation
>compilation
I second.

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>>35191538
>>35191548

>>35187675
teehee she did it though! just goes to show you women are better than men teehee

>>35185901
"Only if you dance for me." would have been the right answer.

>>35187812
Im sorry Anon

>>35188914
She was a journalist tho, not a soldier

>>35189079
At least she acknowledges that its because shes a girl

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>>35191538
>>35191548

>>35192759
>expecting competence in stock photos
that was your first mistake

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>>35185586

am i the only one questioning what the fuck is in her muzzle?

>>35187771
and you just lost yer fucking legs, just show a guy some boobs ffs

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>>35190330
Women can and do serve in support units. Has anyone ever complained about those?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbM_MZBSKng

The issue is the pozzing of combat units with "yas queen slay" types for no other reason than pleasing politicians. The focus of the military should be its mission, not becoming a make a wish foundation pandering to unhinged trannies and dykes that ruin everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Du0bOPb-K38

>>35192895
wrong link, here is the female medevac staff doing an amazing job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52CYG1uYhI#t=1170

>>35192775
kinda looks like a blank fire adapter....

>>35192775
Barrel tampon.

>>35192898

Female MEDEVAC goes back to WW2, my shithole of a country that is Romania had one of the first if not the first.

Again stuff that is not supposed to ever go into combat is fine and has been for centuries.

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>>35187754
top kek, lad.

>>35188345
Are these the women who passed Ranger school the same women who were given better treatment compared to the male soldiers in order to pass it?

>>35189804
That's 20kg and about 20km, right? That's fucking nothing, and I'm not a terribly /fit/ guy.

>>35186035
Black dudes only
hoop earrings and corn rolls.

Everybody always
Little eye brows.


Anyone whos willing to make me mad.
Yoga pants

>>35193068
Yes. Iirc, Obama had announced he'd attend the graduation before the course had even ended. They made such a fuss in the media about women attending Ranger School for the first time that they couldn't afford to let them fail even after fucking up their ruck and landnav.

Here is the quick rundown by some bitter MTGOW guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqcZPfCjf8I

>>35193093
It's doable but It means you can't afford to be completely out of shape.

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>>35192953

>guy on ground appears to have real gunshot injury
>guy on ground does not have blank fire adapter or magazine
>guy in back doesn't have adapter
>chick has adapter

was this a photo op for a movie or what, i'm seriously confused.

>>35193117
Maybe they didn't trust her with a real gun.

>>35193117
This is a photo op from an exercise. Posted by Royal Guard on Facebook

>>35189804
I did that shit back then with no issues other then being bored as fuck the whole time and some blistering because they issued ill fitting boots. I could probably do it now a some 14 years later and 50lbs heavier. Hell, it might be even easier since I'm used to carrying around more weight.

> The Truth about Women in Combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Cr2Tyn6io

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>''Hey anon, join the army, it'll instill some confidence, keep you in shape and you'll rank your way to the top on merit alone.''

>Womyns become mostly incompetent officers bossing you around by virtue of quotas and /or higher initial education.

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>>35192775
>>35193117
the wounded soldier is just there to be wounded, that's why he has no magazine in and no adapter and the wound looks realistic (but they've probably just ripped up the uniform and poured some fake blood on it, and he or some instructor will say what injury it is) it's a royal guard unit btw.

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/thread

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>>35193382
That's funny.

>>35189804
>Fatbody manlets on /k/ think they could do a 12 mile with 45 lb ruck in 3 hrs
>Top kek you fuckers stink like shit, don't hold your heads so high
wtf am I reading ?
yuropoor nerdy 5ft3in manlet with a bad knee reporting in. I do this sort of marchs at least 2 times a week out of boredness.

12 miles = 7.5 km
45lbs = 20,4kg
3 hours, 7.5km, means 2.5km per hour. Is that correct ?
For fuck sake is this a fucking joke ? 20 little kilograms at 2.5km per hour for 3 hours ?
Any adult who can't do this is either handicaped, has a medical condition, is a landwhale, is too old, or just came back from a nazi extermination camp.

>>35185586
>How old were you when you realized women have nothing to do in front line roles

Canadian here. Always had a hunch, but it hit me smack in the face when I joined the army. I'll save you the stories because they are the same stories that have been told hundreds of times from different people on this website. I'm curious, are there ANY enlisted men in the combat arms that think women are a good idea?

>>35194342

>12 miles = 7.5 km

Should we tell him?

>>35185985
smoker

>>35194342
You're bad at mafs. 12 miles is just under 20km, it can be done under 3 hours but you have to be in somewhat half-decent shape. The current record is around 1h30 iirc.

>>35194365
> are there ANY enlisted men in the combat arms that think women are a good idea
Does it matter now? They're clearly not going to get a say in any of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCtIexlWgQ

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>>35194342
>12 miles = 7.5 km


Lol wut?

>>35188249
screams and laugher at the beggining
>no brazzers logo
these girls would still win against niggers and goatfuckers though.

>>35194342
12 Miles = 19.3121 Km

>>35185586
both are in a hopeless situation and will die where they are 'standing'

>>35185901
it was a man fucking dying wish, useless bitch

>>35185985
Pic was shot in London, she's a model

>>35187675
Wait that was only 12 miles? I get that 12 may be difficult if you're out of shape but she looked like she was about to actually die. Anyone know how heavy the pack was?

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>>35185586
because killing 309 germans just isn't efficient.

>>35187697
I think you underestimate how physically weak many women are...

>>35194571
>Anyone know how heavy the pack was?
The standard fighting load is 35 to 40 lbs

>>35192956
bingo

>>35185901
>lost both legs
>not allowing him a blissful opioid induced death.

>>35187812
Let me give you some advice you probably already know. Do NOT fuck army bitches. I did 4 years myself and I never had a single problem, because that was my one rule. The other benefit of this is that when she jumps to the next dick, which she will, you don't have to be part of the inter-platoon drama lol.

>>35194573
>believing russian propaganda
>thinking guerilla tactics from under 50 yards counts as being a sniper
Wew...

can everyone stop replying to bait. 75 percent of this thread is just people replying to one hissy fit gril/ cucked sjw guy who thinks women are barbies that are on all levels except physical are men.

>>35189397
you left out mens anus is way more durable also than womens.