>Forciably sprays half a gallon of CLP directly onto

You fag

>>35174318
What a soft looking E-6. He's like a big ol' teddy bear.

>tfw going to armorer school

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFff

>>35174318
Let me tell you a secret anon. I bought an ultrasonic cleaner, and upfitter's harness w/ integral converter.

so: Clamp your harness onto your vehicle's battery post. Attach the ultrasonic cleaner to the outlet. fill with CLP. Dump internals into cleaner, walk the fuck away. Go back to armorer, and watch them star in disbelief at how impossibly clean your shit is.

Want to know what me and my dudes were doing while the cleaner was working it's shit? Eating. fucking around.

Its 75 bucks for the cleaner at a harbor freight. When it breaks you all pitch in for another.

>>35174498
I was a POG, but any time we checked out weapons, we were watched like a hawk. I don't think I would have been able to pull this off.

>>35174526
Ahh...I was an aircraft maintainer who got sucked into augmentee with security forces. I used my arcane knowledge of thinking to assist. The Armorers basically would blackmail you, they were stuck there for hours after duty anyway, so you could either pay them 20 bucks to "clean your gun for you" and they didnt clean it, just shoved it back on the rack, dirtier than ever, or you sat for like 45m to an hour and a half later trying to clean caked up carbon. Yeah. Fuck that.

So we hooked the cleaner up the patrol vehicle and ate MREs instead.

>memories of afghanistan

>>35174543
I think I'm an autist. I've been out for over almost a decade now, but I still thoroughly clean every gun I take out shooting. I know I don't have to;I find it calming. I never had an issue just sitting there cleaning and recleaning my rifle. I never deployed though. So I only got a gun a handful of times a year.

>>35174565
you should get some basic hand tools, including a hand turned lathe or treadle. Get into machining. There is an odd joy to it.

>>35174543
makes sense, you were air force

>>35174318
>may I have a sponge, Sergeant?

>>35174587
building on this. I like making my own screws from roundstock. They never have a button head, just an indent. Fuck. I have autism too.

>>35174526
>but any time we checked out weapons, we were watched like a hawk

Former infantry faggot here. Can other POGs confirm that this is true?

>>35174594
>Nah, these here M4s like to run wet. Don't get any of that CLP off, you hear? Just let it coat the brass on your rounds so they cycle smooth.

>>35174587
I thought about getting into woodworking. I work nights at a hospital though. It's hard for me to do run a table saw at 10pm without pissing off my neighbors and girlfriend.
>>35174603
I might have been exaggerating, but we only ever had live rounds on a range, and in those instances we were pretty much always trailed by one of the NCO's that operated the range from when we got live ammo until we proved completely clear.

>>35174603
13D here. Yeah that's true.

>>35174614
>not having secondary shoulder mounted CLP tank to ensure continuous trickle flow of CLP into bolt carrier via CLP mod port.

fucking scrubs, no CLP mod.

>>35174620
ah man, cant help you there too much unless you own a home. Then its easy to do a little soundproofing with some egg crate foam. Just put up drywall after it so you dont burn down your home from a stray spark or some shit.

>>35174653
I don't own a home, but I rent a house. I live literally 2 blocks outside the city limits of my state capital, so it's more of a population density thing. My yard is only like 400-600 sq ft. It doesn't have a garage, and woodworking requires solid ventilation if you don't want cancer or some shit, so doing it in the yard is my only real bet. I don't foresee moving because I like amenities too much. I'l switch to day shift the next time one opens though. I'm also looking to buy land in BFE 1-2 hours away for shooting, but that's still 20k or so I can't justify spending on fun shit.

>>35174683
I'd consider a window vent unit, and setting up a little crafting booth, then go for a nice slow turn lathe. No files. Never ever buy treated wood either. Dont ever work Cedar and you will be ok. Stick to chipping/ razor instead of file/ shaving. Here, check out this video. Its nice and quiet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLE1PjC0Btc

tl/dr: take up whittling.

>>35174714
also this motherfucker. get a mesh glove so you dont get stabbed.

https://youtu.be/EB3USnPADvQ

>>35174714
I already have most every tool I need for general woodworking other than a drill press and planer. I don't own a jointer either which would be nice, but not super necessary. Turning looked interesting, but I didn't think it was for me. I have been considering the inexpensive harbor freight lathe though to try it out.

>>35174732
https://youtu.be/dibIlrai8fU needing a machine. SHAMEFUR. see 4:30

>nah don't use too much CLP on the M2/M240 it'll get too dirty
>IT KEEPS FAILING TO CYCLE

USE GREASE FUCKERS

>>35174526
We just dosed our worn out Franken fuck m16s in simple green and left them in the showers for 10 mins. Turned the showers on to risne all that shit out and dried them off. Gave a good coat of clp and turned those dliapidated peices of shit back in. Worked every time.

>Thank you, may I have some more please?

>>35174743
Yeah, and there are European hand tool methods that make tighter joint than your video. It's 2017 and I'm not trying to spend 4 hours dovetailing a few panels of a dresser.

>>35174318
>forcibly lynch the dumb nigger after
>get promoted 3 ranks up

>>35174603
Another (Muhreen) airwinger here.
Can confirm. You are treated like little babby when with gun. In all fairness probably for the best though as most POGs are completely inept at proper weapons handling.

>>35174543

>turn in weapon to armorer
>Afghanistan

wat

>>35175051
I cycled out of Afghanistan through Bagram. That place was fucking weird. Like 50% of joes walking around with no weapons, and of the ones with weapons almost none had any magazines.

>>35174614

but ARs do work better wet.

Pat Rogers (RIP) at EAG had a long thread about it based on his experiences over the years.

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>>35174614

>>35175062
There is "wet" and there is "turn the inside of your rifle into a sloshing mess".

>>35174755
Simple green is fucking magic, we used that shit for EVERYTHING in the Coast Guard.

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>>35175083

Not him but I just spray some clp in the carrier through the exhaust ports and on the side of the bolt and a tiny bit in the inside of the receiver.

i-is that too much?

>>35175007
I'm not going to deny it. I didn't know shit about guns other than the facts and figures I was required to recite (I didn't know what they meant most of the time). Almost all of my gun knowledge was civilian learned after ETS. The only thing I retained that was useful was AR-15 weapons handling.

>>35175066

>The croc is drinking a beer

Kek

>>35175098
you forgot to include a reference to a green pad, cuz that was the answer to all cleaning questions when i was in.

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>>35175098
>Coast Guard

>>35175098
>Simple green
>How to remove the Nitride in one easy step!

>>35175150
No no noooooo!!!

Make it stop.

>>35175131
Open the bolt, tiny spray/couple drops inside the receiver, close bolt, same on side of bolt, work the bolt 5-10 times to distribute, done.

Unless you're using something special like Frog, with that you're wiping an extremely thin coat in before assembly, as in, wipe on, wipe off so it's mostly dry.

>>35174498
>CLP as an ultrasonic cleaning compound

RIP

>>35175062
Apparently you've never seen how some retarded military NCOs do it. They'll grab Joe's rifle and spray CLP through the bolt carrier until it fucking creampies with CLP dripping down the outside of the magazine.

>>35175175
If Simple Green strips your coating away, it was probably only pudding.

>>35174498
good lads. you are soldiers.

>>35175214
CLP isn't viscous enough, If you shoot with it like that, the only bad it's going to do is spray you in the eyes. It's not going to fuck up the rifle one bit.

>>35175051
>>35175061
Rules change frequently on who is the boss. Security forces and regulars had weapons and magazines issued, while augmentees at times had to go, get a weapon, return weapon at end of shift because for some reason my issued M-16 was not acceptable compared to my temporarily issued M-4. So my M-16 lived in the truck. Do not ask me why this happened, because neither I nor my co-workers could explain until towards the end. tl/dr: While all the guns were living in the same areas, the guns belonged to different groups who were very, very, clannish about it.

>>35175214
I-I'd like my raifu to creampie me with CLP desu

>>35175524
That shit is so retarded and convoluted. In my (and I think the majority) of deployments, you signed for the weapon once and you didn't sign it back in until the deployment was over. In the meantime, don't lose it. Weapons never out of arms reach unless you put them in a wall rack in a secure building, and you were never further away than the interior of the building. At least one mag on you all the time.

Simple, easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_pgv5zsyok

the amount of it sprayed into the weapons by the sergeant or whatever also makes me cringe. Just the excess of it and the runoff triggers my autism. How is more than a drop or two justified...

>>35174318
is this what passes as "humor" now days?
humanity really needs to be annihilated, nuclear war NOW

>>35174498
internals aren't even the hard part to clean.

it is the fucking star chamber.

>>35175886
I'll clean your star chamber with my tongue.

>>35174318
>being so poor you have to join the military just to shoot guns

yea naw I'd rather take hrt, be a sissy fuccboi and kill myself

>>35175990
Not everybody gets born with a silver spoon in their ass, dirtbag. Most of us actually earn what we have.

>>35176059
Don't fool yourself. Even though this guy's an obvious troll, there are people out there that honestly thing you are a retard for pulling yourself up from your bootstraps to make something of yourself. "Like, why couldn't you just have had a dad that made his fortune like Milkey and Boesky you fucking retard?"

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>>35176090
>pulling yourself up from your bootstraps
It must be noted that the origin of this term was as ridicule for those who derided people stuck at lower levels of society for not just getting better.

Think about the actual motion of this, lifting yourself up into the air by pulling on the straps on your boots.

>>35175841
Holy shit. I didn't think it would be that bad.

>>35174543
Maintainers always find the efficient way to do things because we are lazy and (with a few terrifying exceptions) smart.

>>35175886
We had one guy in OSUT that was ridiculously good at cleaning star chambers, also every other part of an m4, his fat ass got kicked out because he couldn't pass an APFT to save his life.

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>>35174498

someone at my unit did this...

>tfw tried to hand in a chromed out gun

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>>35174318

>bestarmorer.jpeg

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>>35175841

I intentionally do this just before issuing weapons, just to trigger people like you, good lick getting CLP stains out of your pants

>>35178010
That's a trap isn't it?
>inb4 'I should know the answer to this by now'

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>>35178358

>>35174498
You use clp in a ultrasonic?

like literally 100% CLP? how does it work

We used LSA in boot.

>>35175066
LOL! it's funny because alligators and kangaroos are in Australia and that man is Australian because of the Australia flag on the wall.

>>35178414
>wastes his life on 4chan
You have little room to critique

>>35174628
kek'd

>>35175175
Stop acting retarded

>>35178010
She regularly gets railed in the armory, I guarantee it.

>>35178994
>Thinks using anything but firearm-specific solvents is a good idea
>calls others retarded

>>35175131
Don't do this
It creates mustard gas

>>35174318
am I really surprised at this point 01 here will tell Seargen to never do that again I put a light screen of it on the bolt carrier very light

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>>35178010
>You know it's true

>>35179075
Never said it was a good idea. Learn to read retard.

>>35175524
That's fucking weird. I was at Kandahar a few years back and everyone had to have their weapon with them at all times unless they were actually on the flightline working.

>>35175886
I'm an autistic dipshit.

Because of this, I HATED it when the NCOs would say, "star chamber". They are the fucking LOCKING LUGS for the bolt's locking lugs to engage with.

Fucking "star chamber".

The Army makes you fucking retarded at even the things that it claims that it makes you good at.

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>>35174543
same here but then i went full security forces T_T

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>>35179794
You don't have to be an autist to be bothered by "star chamber". Standards in the Army are pretty low.

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>>35179794

armorer fag here , get a cleaning rod, attach to power drill,use a chamber brush and go to town using heavy loads of CLP, works wonders, also
>pic related for the keks

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>>35175921
kek

>>35178010
yup

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best lube

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>>35174748

i had a 1 gallon bucket of clp paracorded to my M2, dump and go action worked just fine for me

>>35179075
I use 10w 30 and you can't stop me

>>35180037
Honestly motor oil is actually overkill lube for weapons, it's meant for highass heat and constant pressure. While the weapon does produce both, it's usually only in short bursts. Still cheaper though.

>>35178010
>"private anon, come back, I want to put some CLP on your *weapon*. It cleans and lubricates, you know..."

>>35180083
It also makes for a horrific mess.

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>as long as it comes with a full *function check*

>>35180102

In the field some guys dilute motor oil with CLP

>>35180083
Price is the main motivator. I first tried it out once when I ran out of clp and had nothing else on hand.

>>35180102
It's not that bad if you don't over do it. I think motor oil is a bit heavier than most gun oil as well, so it doesn't evaporate as quickly. You can put less on and it stays effective longer.

>>35178010
>still trying to meme her

Keep it up anon. Live your dreams.

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>>35175098

Simple Green damages aluminium

>>35174318
Yeah- This fucker also advises you to use the tip of your rifle's firing pin as a scraping tool to clean the rifle.

...it's not like using the one tiniest surface in the entire rifle; essential to making the fucking thing work, to abrasively scrape shit would be a BAD idea, right?

>>35174318
The armorer demands that the rifles be returned bone dry. Nobody understands why the rifles are rusty as fuck when you draw them.

>>35180346

Does a patch exist of this yet?

>>35179075
>"""""firearm-specific solvents"""""
It's fucking steel and aluminum, tools and knives are coated with the same nitride shit, gunmetal does't have magical properties.

>>35182354
>Implying your hammer takes the same thermal and kinetic stresses your firearm does
>Implying fucking up the treatment and letting it rust is a good idea

>>35175098
buckets and sponges shipmate

>IS THAT A FUCKING DRY KIMWIPE DO YOU WANT ISIS TO WIN?

>>35180027
so If in an action movie the hero grabbed a lose 50 cal round and started boinking it off the bad guys faceplate it could blow his face off?

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>>35178010
>>35178369
>>35179196

>>35182427
No, it would turn the hero's hand into an 80% complete hamburger.

>>35178358
No, it's just the kind of girl who would join the Air Force.

>>35178010
>having a last name that means 'Key' in dutch

>had no issues with any weapons in service except the brand new 1014s with military buck would stop working and gum up and have ejecting issues fter 40 or rounds.

are they supposed to be run wet? low powered mil buck? Also the 1014s had the shittiest issues slings.

>>35174498
>was navyfag
>GMs always gave us forms to follow along in cleaning weapons
>literally saw a kid get NJP'd for not knowing what step of the form he was on while cleaning rifle

Bringing any outside materials or tools to assist in cleaning would have been a serious "fuck no."
If it wasn't written on the form, you couldn't do it. If it *was* written on the form, you better fucking do it regardless of how arbitrary it may be in the cleaning process.

>>35180027
rofl your pic related happened during my deployment

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>>35183412

those are known as MRCs and are to be followed, saw a guy once trust a kid with a brass brush and told him to get the "black stuff" (carbon) off like any normal gun using human being should know to do...

>tfw kid started vigorously scratching the finish off the gun

now we give everybody only plastic brushes and CLP to clean guns

>>35174465
>tfw already an armorer

What branch?

>>35183412
ships weapons right? not rifles?

>>35183653

there are instructions for everything in the navy, including making sandwiches

>>35179794
>calling it anything other than a dime-piece

>>35180027
>armorer here
>clp in m2
this kills the ma deuce.
clp will cause the gun to run too hot and warp the reciever.
the only lube you should be using is lsa.
shit like this is why shitty memes like "the m2 is shit" exist.
nobody wants to listen to how to perform proper weapons maintenance.
god i hate you all.

>>35180191
did your parents have any children that lived?

>>35182354
brake cleaner will clean the ever loving fuck out of a weapon.
most beautifully clean thing youve ever seen.
it also strips away any bluing you have on the weapon.
not all metal cleaners are the same for all applications.

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>>35183729

what branch? the only thing i have used LSA on was the MK19, and this random publication i found to justify my point says that LSA should only be used if you use RBC, or there is no CLP available

>>35174318
is forciably a word?

>>35184313
Hey, we're fighters, not good speller people.

>>35184313
its a pasta

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>>35178010
>>35178369

>>35174434
Looks like an E-4

>>35174318
>gets yelled at by Platoon Sgt and Armorer that my rifle is too lubed
>literally spotless, only oiled

>>35174603
It's true. Ultimate POG here, national guard. Whole platoon (12 people) have to clean their rifles together at one place. It's not like it's a rule but they ask where you're going if you leave.

>>35175083

Discounting the way they counted the burst trigger resets as faults... the first dust test they did with M4s and M16s was so bad that they didn't release the results at all.

They added additional lube beyond the manufacturer's specs to get it to the more favorable results of the 2nd and 3rd test, which they did release. So far higher malfunctions than the 882 faults (+trigger miscounts) of the 3rd test.

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>>35178001
Oh god, I'd pay to see that ass chewing

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>>35183674
>mfw put bottom bread right side up and top bread upside down

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SPRAY BALISTOL ON EVERYTHING INCLUDING STOCK GRIP AND OPTIC. WIPE OFF WITH SOCK. CLEAN RAIFU.

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>>35175841
I laughed audibly.
What the fuck

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>>35184977

>NJPd for making PBJ like pic related

>>35182532
You can say "whore," we're on 4chan.

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>>35186670
i think you meant to say she is a pleasant lady

>>35183729
Fuck you just take my m4 and tell your private to clean his finger before he checks my chamber.

>>35178369
That rifle is 2qt tho.

>>35179826
>get a cleaning rod, attach to power drill

Why the fuck haven't I thought of this yet. This whole time I've been trying to figure a way to nigger rig a cleaning rod for doing it manually.

>>35174603
Apparently we're pretty chill for POGs we get handed the rifle and the armory guys fuck off in their ac we have to knock to get them to come to the window

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>>35187167

you see, you just find ways to get lazier at your job and call it "an increase in efficiency"

aw shit, i should patent a motor cleaning brush and market it to the govt as an "m16/m4 special cleaning brush apparatus"

>>35175180
>>35175150


oh god there are coast guard GMs in this thread

>>35182436
Image sauce?