Hi /k/ /out/doorsmen here what is the best steel for a knife?
also best makers
Are buck and gerber good? how about cold steel and mora?
Price range is $110 leaf bux
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>>35150559
Thx
Just get Mora. I prefer Mora to my ESEE 4 for most applications. Just picked up an Eldris a week or two ago
>>35150647
the fuck is that blade for? cutting ants?
>>35150471
S30V if you can afford it.
>>35150647
That knife looks like a fucking Hi Point.
I see your bees and raise you a giant tree weta.
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>>35150559
D2 will stay sharp longer, but isn't it pretty brittle as far as knife steels go?
>>35150647
I have bought Basic 546 for 3$ year ago. Its preety good
Microtech OTF all the way
if too expensive the DHgate Chinese knock offs for like $60 are dope
>>35150471
Buy a buck 119. You can do anything you'll ever need to do with a knife with one, and plenty of shit you should use a hatchet for. Knives are terrible for self defense, but it can do that passably, and it's the perfect size. Not too large, not too small.
>>35150471
>what is the best steel for a knife
There is no best steel for a knife in general because every steel is simply one particular combination of trade-offs between materials properties.
The best steel choice for a particular knife depends entirely on the exact scope of work you want that knife to be able to handle. Tell me what you want to be able to use the knife for, and what you don't care if the knife sucks at, and I'll tell you the best steel choices for those applications.
For outdoors stuff under $110 a carbon steel Mora likely can't be beat, but I want to hear your exact use case before making a definitive recommendation.
>>35150559
>>35150852
D2 and s30v are entirely inappropriate choices for an outdoor knife. Too brittle, unnecessary abrasive wear resistance that makes it more work to field sharpen, poor apex stability in a use case where wood processing is likely to be a task. Unless he is looking for a pure skinner that won't be used for any other outdoors knife tasks, I'd avoid both D2 and s30v.
>>35153588
Self defense while /out/ against animals or humans. As well as the odd branch or two that need shortining (I have a an axe for that)
>>35153606
>Self defense while /out/ against animals or humans.
There's no optimal steel choice for LARP'ing so I'll ignore this part.
>As well as the odd branch or two that need shortining (I have a an axe for that)
For under $110 CAD a carbon steel Mora will be the best knife you can get for this job, with the one caveat that you'll have to take care of it to prevent rust.
>>35153621
That's fine no issue there.
>best steel
No such thing. Any good carbon or stainless steel is good. Powder metallurgy might be something to look for.
>>35152446
>OTF
Literally memes.
>>35153588
I've used D2, S30V and S35VN for outdoor knives. They have handled everything from chopping, batoning to delicate carving. A simple Diamond sharpener will keep them razor sharp. I don't know what your experience is with them but my experience has been the complete opposite of yours. Those steels do great in the outdoors and resist corrosion quite well.
>>35153741
Just because knives you've used in D2 and s30v have survived being used inappropriately by you does not change their basic materials properties.
D2 and s30v are massively more brittle than steels like 1095/A2/01/52100/5160. Abrasive wear resistance is typically a complete waste on an outdoor knife unless it is going to be used for skinning since you encounter very little cardboard, carpet or rope to slice in the wild. Outdoor knives spend much more time processing wood, which is a push cutting task that doesn't take advantage of abrasive wear resistance at all. Also, the same carbide volume that increases abrasive wear resistance simultaneously decreases apex stability (ability to resist microscopic apex chipping and rolling) which is the primary determinant of edge retention in push cutting tasks like processing wood.
These basic realities of materials properties are why the overwhelming majority of chisels, outdoor knives, choppers, hatchets and axes are made out of steels like 1075/1084/1095/52100/O1/5160/A2 etc and virtually none are made out of D2 or s30v. Steels like D2 and s30v are much better suited to applications where the primary scope of work is slicing soft abrasive materials (e.g. skinning, rope, cardboard, carpet, etc.).
>>35150471
CPM 3V
its the ultimate outdoor steel, but expensive. better stick with 1095 or O1 for price/function
>>35150559
This.
5160 is my personal favorite, but 1075 is good too. I make knives. TigerToothTools on Facebook. I can work with you.