Is carrying any firearm other than a Glock 19 for EDC basically

>>35148834
I'm not sure but the way the rounded off the front of the gen5s but left the dust cover square really triggers my autism.

>>35148861
Right? Fucking hell.

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>>35148834
Carrying a Glock 19 and then bragging to everyone about it is attention seeking.

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>he doesn't carry a 34

>>35148834
im still carry my 92fs because it just feels right

>>35148970
>34
>Taller than a 26
>Damn near the same in every other dimension.
>can only into 6rds.

it's still 90 degrees every day in mid-september. i'd only carry something as big as a glock 19 in the balls of winter

all EDC is autism and attention seeking

>>35148834
No, carrying something like a S&W 642 is completely fine

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>>35149003
Uhh....

>>35149093
mein bad
guess my 'tism didn't kick in quick enough

>>35148834
Shit bait thread, try hardr nxt thyme

>>35148834
It really just boils down to vanity or inexperience if someone gets something other than a 19. If a person is technically competent but decides against a glock it's generally because the glock is "boring" or some lame ass excuse to project some kind of inadequacy onto their choice of carry piece. If the person cites something like "muh hammer" or "safety" it's because they're not capable of basic safe firearms handling, (i.e. a new/inexperienced shooter.) The first case person will also sometimes cite the latter reason as extra justification sometimes to make themselves feel better.

>>35148970
>not getting a 19 and then making it a Roland special so it's the same slide profile as the 34 with even more performance

>>35149339
>not getting a 34 and doing the Roland special mods too it and carrying it

>>35148834
i like having both my hands and all my fingers

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>>35149461

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>>35149461

>>35148834
Well, the upcoming M&P 2.0 compact is the same size and will be cheaper.

I've been waffling back and forth between an 19 gen 5 and an M&P 2.0 compact and right now I think I'm going to go with the M&P. Even at Brownell's preorder price it's cheaper than the glock, looks better, and comes with metal sights.

If I can wait a few months the M&P will drop $100 or so off the price anyway, whereas the glock won't.

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>>35148834
Different guns for different applications.

>>35148834

I have a transitional gen 3 G19 with the MIM extractor.

It sucks. I have owned hi points that stovepipe and crush casings less. It is not trustworthy for a carry gun.

So no, it's not.

>>35149866
That looks top-tier, shame about the retarded round it takes.

>>35149967
Nice bait.

>>35148834

How is your personal choice of firearm autism or attention seeking? Are you mentally deficient?

I will carry whatever I want to, faggot

>>35149967
You appear to be misinformed

https://underwoodammo.com/shop/45-super-230-grain-bonded-jacketed-hollow-point/

Caliber: 45 Super
Bullet Weight: 230 Grains
Bullet Style: Speer Bonded Jacketed Hollow Point

Ballistics Information:

>Muzzle Velocity: 1100 fps
>Muzzle Energy: 618 ft. lbs.

>>35150083
Wow, what a shitty replacement for 10mm.

>>35150083
>Muh energy dump
Shame about the fuddlore its owner believes.

>>35150083
>>35150011
.45 is the choice of retards, it has all the disadvantages of 9mm without any of the advantages, costs more too.

>>35150107
>Literally out preforms 10mm

>>35150109
It has superior ballistic performance

>>35150118
Go home child, .45 super is not .45 acp

>>35149052
>t. looter

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>>35150129
>out performs
anon, plz...

And you're giving up magazine capacity for your retarded fuddism.

>>35150083
>>35150129
>>35150148

LMAO Point Fuddy Five BTFO

>>35150153
22 magnum master race.

>>35150129
>>Literally out preforms 10mm
>.45 super outperforms 10mm

Fudds are literally retarded.

>>35149093

He meant 36

45acp 6 rounds

About the dimensions of a 19

>>35150176
>same size
>less than half the rounds
>no additional lethality per round

Fucking disgusting.

>>35149339
What if I just don't like glocks because they feel bad in my hand (angle), or if I had a bad experience with one jamming up constantly at a range (my cousins, we both had FTFs, no idea what was wrong with it but he claims "huh it never happens!!")

>>35150118

Americans used 45

Germans used 9mm

Case closed.

>>35150188
People how complain about grip angles are just bad at shooting and don't shoot enough to get good at shooting whatever gun they are trying to shoot.

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>>35150148
>>35150153
>180gr
Meanwhile in man land we carry 255gr hardcast.

Also, .45 super out preforms 10mm in penetration and permanent cavity.

>>35150203
Or how about I just buy one of the other seemingly-infinite numbers of quality polymer 9mms that feels fine in my hand without me training around discomfort.

>>35150203
Wrong. You obviously don't point shoot.

>>35150205
>Meanwhile in man land
Are you really so insecure in your masculinity that you must hinge it on an arbitrary bullet weight?

>.45 super out preforms 10mm in penetration and permanent cavity.
What a delightfully uncited internet claim you have there.

>>35150198
>Americans don't use 9mm
We actually, for police, chose that meme .40 too... No one wants the 45.

>>35150205

A real man isn't insecure about his bullet choice

>>35150216
>guns should be comfortable and pretty not durable and functional

When did people become such women when it comes to guns. They serve a purpose. They are not decorated hand recliners you pansy fuck.

>>35150183

I have one, it's a nice gun. It's best compared to a commander/officer 1911

It came out 20 years ago, times were different, thoughts on calibers were different.

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>>35150247
What about this isn't durable and functional?

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>>35150273

>>35148834
I got a 23 just to troll other autists

>>35150242

Not in WW2, but keep getting your panties in a bunch because you need random approval for your caliber.

>>35150280
Not a single one of those is the same model I posted. Besides, your Glock is way more likely to explode than any HK.

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>>35150273
>>35150280
>>35150301

>>35150247
When did I say "pretty". And there are PLENTY of durable polymer pistols around.

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>>35150301

>>35150302
>Even when searching for HK failures
>You get a broken Glock

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>>35150176
No nigger, I meant 34.

>>35150321
None with the decades long track record of Glock.

Any problem you have shooting a Glock is with you, not with the gun.

>>35150327
You're trying to talk shit and you don't even know what pistol it is.

>>35150302
Not the HK guy but there is a cornucopia of glocknade pics on the internet too.

CZ has a poly compact.
Steyr has a poly compact
FN has poly compacts
S&W has poly compacts
Ruger has poly compacts
Beretta has poly compacts
Walther has poly compacts

There are plenty of quality options out there. I am not limited to glock 19s.

>>35150330
Google "Glock Kaboom" and count how many non-Glock guns are shown.

>>35150337
>Decades-long track record

of what, being used on police ranges, with maybe 1/100 of them actually being used in combat between periods of department-armorer maintenance?

As long as you aren't buying something like Taurus or Jimmenez a decent gun is going to survive a lifetime of pocket lint/contact with dead skin/kydex holster time.

>>35150372
>implying Glock isn't one of the if not the best selling handguns of the past 30 years.

>>35150337
Hell, even taking your own "decades long track record" to logical conclusion, we may as well be using compact Browning Hi-powers.

>>35150392

So what?

>>35150393
>less capacity
>more weight
>doesn't do anything better.

>>35150392
So? Ford are best selling trucks, they're still shit.

>Funny thing, they're both best selling for the same reason
>Cheap bulk government orders of disposable crap

>>35150392
I never said they aren't one of the best selling. But best-selling doesn't mean the absolute best for every individual, for the same reason that some people like Pepsi over Coke, or Craftsman over Stanley, or Honda over Toyota

>>35150405
>more weight
DYEL?

>Serious talk, that is the most retarded argument for a pistol in history.

>>35150407
>probably likes Chevy
>consequently is probably a Mexican.

Opinion disregarded.

>>35150405
And how often do people in CC-using situations actually use every single round? From what i've seen, it frankly wouldn't matter that much if everyone was running around with 6-shot snub-nosed .38 special revolvers. In fact, some people do just that, and manage to not die.

>>35150188
>What if I just don't like glocks because they feel bad in my hand
This is a more reasonable disagreement with glocks but it would fall under both of the cases I mentioned. Have you heard of highly experienced shooters like Miculek and Hickock complaining that the grip angle is holding them back? Glock's grip isn't conducive to being comfy to pick up and point at a gun store, it's meant for being as thin as possible and angled to allow for faster follow up shots.

Rather than trying a gun that "fits" you (an exercise in vanity) you should be looking to find the best gun you can that is appropriate for your use case and become proficient with it. Just think about it, how much do your hands deviate from mine which are anatomically likely to be only minutely different. The grip angle is fine for me, but I'm practiced on it and other guns as well. Most of the people I come across who think this way are generally novice shooters who do not practice much but a few times a year to shoot claiming how awful glocks feel when seasoned shooters are quite often using glocks without issue.

>>35150188
>or if I had a bad experience with one jamming up constantly at a range
Any gun can have FTF issues with worn magazines, bad ammo, etc. Glocks have the some of the highest mean rounds between failures out of modern service guns. The Gen5 glocks, for instance, have 11,000 mean rounds before stoppage and there are gen 5 glocks with over 30k rounds and no replacement parts. Anecdotal experience does not mean much when Glocks are one of the most tested firearms on earth.

Just google ejection problems or FTF problems on any gun and you will find anecdotes about it.

>>35150420
>implying having a lighter weight pistol isn't a plus for anyone that actually carrys pistols instead of retarded fudds that only pick their pistol off the bench to fire before setting it back down.

Also, I guarantee I lift more than you.

>>35150434
>Must use every single round to justify having higher capacity

You really think everyone's gun should be empty right at the conclusion a gunfight with the perfect amount of shots fired for the situation before said gun is empty?

That has got to be one of the most retarded fudd arguments I've ever seen.

>>35150435
>best gun for your use case
>glockfag telling everyone to get a p938

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I carry Springfield XD 45 mod 1 and no one knows I carry and it is a better pointer. I have handled my fair share of 19's my dude owns a gun store I still like my XD over all

>>35150436
My EDC pistol is 3lbs 2oz with the holster and I carry it everywhere without metal detectors.

Also, weight keeps your muzzle down for faster followup shots

>>35148834
We really need to create a glock general, and make glock-posting outside of it a bannable offense.

>>35150436
Not me tho I'll way out lift you bro what is you big 3

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This whole thread is some next level shitposting. I'm just gonna drop this here.

>>35150457
>7 rounds
>steel frame
>micro compact
>SIG

Sorry, the best gun for your use case is a G19. Thanks for playing.

>>35150484
I love that is it your EDC

>>35150500
I carry it with a can of Raid.

>>35150484
How are the turkshit guns? I rarely hear about them at all?

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>>35150493
I don't carry one, you're the one telling everybody to forget all personal preference and carry the textbook definition of the best tool for the job. I carry this.

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i carry a tiny pistol because i don't want to constantly be reminded i have a gun every time i sit down or bend over.

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I like my subcompact 9mm for carry, is that what the 19 is?

>>35150514
Right my land Lord just got one for his kid or grand kid. I carry the XD45

>>35150535

How does it shoot?

I carry a sig 232 that I am not taking a picture of, but it's basically the size of a walther ppk. It fits in my pocket behind my phone and perfectly fits my hand.

>>35150526
I honestly have no complaints. I think their quality is exceptional for the price.

>>35150435
I'm also not JM or Hickock, nor do I dismiss their choice in firearms or use. Hicock is clearly fond of strikers, and glocks on top of that. I have ZERO issue with Glock products in terms of basic quality and utility. But there are other valid reasons for not liking the G19. Where I live, it's hot. G19-sized guns don't feel good on me when worn IWB, even Appendix. I prefer smaller, simply put. Yes, glock has other options. But unfortunately those other, smaller options tend to have drawbacks. The smaller guns have the pinky-dangle, which I hate with a fiery passion. or if they are double-stack they feel weirdly thicker than their full-size counterpart. I have tried to like glocks. I have rented them, I have borrowed them. And yet I haven't shot one that really seemed great me or even felt comfy in the hand, in part due to the finger-grooves from hell and the grip angle (I may get to try a G5 G19, which doesn't have the awful grooves so I'm looking forward to that). Call it a hipster thing if you want, but there is no accounting for taste.

These are valid ergonomic complaints that can perfectly justify buying a different model of gun that can, out of the box, satisfy those demands without extra expense in aftermarket parts or time.

>>35150551
Why pic or didn't happen nogun

>>35150551

as good as a .32 pocket pistol can. its all metal so its pretty easy to control also irons are for fags

>>35150543
19 is a compact. Basically a slightly smaller full size.

>>35150576

I don't need to prove I have an obscure sig to anyone, you can google it if you want. I put on some custom grips that make it super slim, it's really nice. Highly recommend the 232.

>>35150435
Using this logic the only bolt action rifle anyone should own is a Model 70 because Carlos Hathcock was really good with it.

>>35150598
Look I can admit when I don't own a gun I had the p220 it was the best gun I ever owned I don't have it now but I don't need to brag like I have a 17

>>35150711
Sorry a g18 with the switch you believe me right?

>>35150477
You mean an alternative pistol general? You guys can all go there and talk all about grip angles, hammers, 45 ACP, metal frames, stopping power, energy dump, and how drop safeties don't matter.

>>35150531
The G19 is textbook definition of the best tool.

>capacity of a G19
>size of a G17
>good

>>35150566
>These are valid ergonomic complaints
Unless you are some kind of freak that falls outside of standard of deviation you likely have the exact same ergonomic concerns as everyone else who manages to use glocks just fine.

You are likely exhibiting a symptom of projection where you believe yourself to be the exception for no other reason except for your own pre-conceived sentiments that are baseless beyond how you "feel." You search for a gun that can alleviate the "unique" considerations you require based on nothing but a misguided novice's intuition. A glock isn't meant to "feel good or "point naturally." That's the kind of thing that sells a gun to a novice who compares a few guns by pointing them in a gunstore. A glock is meant to function according to the most severe demands. That means a gun conducive to accuracy, reliability, and follow up shots. The glock grip angle is a direct result of that. Secondly they got rid of the finger grooves so people with malformed hands and sausage fingers can shoot them, too.

Go here and see if your hands really are outside of a standard of deviation. Hand measurements start at page 337. If you're anything but outside of the standard of deviation, you're probably just a hipster who's full of shit trying to convince yourself and others that you really are special.

http://mreed.umtri.umich.edu/mreed/downloads/anthro/ansur/Gordon_1989.pdf

>>35150612
That's not true at all. Modern bolt actions, precision shooting, and other bolt action activities have many more considerations. Budget is a huge one, while caliber offerings, twist rates/rifling, and reloading considerations/ammo availability also play a factor.

>>35150758
Also some other hand measurements on page 198, too.

>>35150758
>a gun shouldn't point naturally
Ok then. WHY would you choose a tool you use to be LESS intuitive to you?

You still didn't address the very serious issue of SIZE. I am sure I am not the only person in the world to think that a G19 is still too big to conceal regularly in a hot climate, let alone in a situation where bending/leaning is common, and appendix just isn't conductive to that.

I have never said I am "special". They don't feel comfy to me. Period. I have made several attempts to use them, and will again with the Gen 5 G19, which seems to address some of the issues I have with regards to the finger grooves (my fingers are thin actually, I just don't like the feeling of things between my fingers). I am much happier with an M&P grip, or a PPQ grip, or a M&P Shield grip, the P2000sk (but not the P30 or VP9), or even the massive Beretta 92fs. Hell, I really liked the G43 grip.

>>35150273
It only fits 15 rounds when a G17 holds 2 more. It by definition is less functional than its closest comparative glock peer.

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>>35150881
It's much closer in size to the g19 than the 17, stop acting like it isn't.

>>35150758
>You guys can go and talk in alternative car forum, we only discuss the 3k civic here

No, you guys and your zealotry that has sullied the reputation of an otherwise fine quality cheap handgun can fuck off to a general where your autism deserves to be contained.

>>35150881
not him but
>ergos and personal preference/affinity don't matter for a defensive gun
>who needs a gun that points right for you or that you really like to practice with when you can have 2 more rounds you'll never need
>i mean just look at all those encounters where 15rnds wasn't enough but 17rnds got the job done

lol

>>35150976
But Civic is the only car you need for every day driving, and it has the best performance in rough conditions, hence why they are used by high-speed, low-drag police and military forces across the planet.

Toyota only won because they offered their car cheaper.

>>35150944
it's closer to the g17 than the g19 in height and is wider than either... not sure why you think it's closer to the g19.

>>35150878
>Ok then. WHY would you choose a tool you use to be LESS intuitive to you?
You're a novice. The way you naturally point and hold something is decidedly worse than an experienced person would. You may be able to point brand y at a gunstore's wall better but that doesn't translate to being more effective with it except at a beginner level. Glock's grip angle is conducive to allowing better high demand shooting for trained users. You don't intend to be a beginner forever, right?

>You still didn't address the very serious issue of SIZE. I am sure I am not the only person in the world to think that a G19 is still too big to conceal regularly in a hot climate
I'm carrying in Nevada. It's pretty hot here. I also used to carry in Florida too if you want to try and discount dry heat.

>I have never said I am "special". They don't feel comfy to me.
>special to me
>to me

>my fingers are thin actually, I just don't like the feeling of things between my fingers
You're not supposed to like it. You're supposed to shoot well with it.

>>35150944
Same height as a G17, less capacity, less utility. HK has always had relative gimped handgun magazine capacity in 9mm in all of their models.

>>35150976
Vehicles have more dimensions of utility than handguns do, though.

>>35151021
>no really my feelings will make be a better shooter
>no really novice handicaps are not a training scar at all
>well most defensive shootings shots are never fired so we don't even need anything past single shot pistols!

>>35149866
The only people who use .45 are the same people who can fit four fingers in their asshole and not even notice.

>>35151041
I see another /o/utist in the midst

>>35151053
>Vehicles have more dimensions of utility than handguns do, though.

Perhaps, but you've only gone and discounted other people's complaints with it as basically "git gud", so the reductionism is equally as prevalent.

>>35151053
>no really my feelings will make be a better shooter
not what i said, and even pro shooters have preferences. ignoring what you prefer is not a recipe for success and only a rabid glockfag would argue otherwise.

>no really novice handicaps are not a training scar at all
I mean clearly if you put the same time into a gun you already prefer due to ergonomics/shootability you wont be happier than if you put that same time into a gun you don't right, right?

Literally a moronic opinion.

>well most defensive shootings shots are never fired so we don't even need anything past single shot pistols!

grats on having three moronic strawmans in a row. if you don't realize that each extra round offers diminishing returns as capacity increases then you may be actually retarded.

Anybody who carries a 5 shot j frame counts on never having to fire a round for SD, anyone who's serious CCWs a AR pistol with a 100 round beta mag

>>35149002
Wish I could conceal one of those.

PPQ classic is better than a g19 in literally every way.

>inb4 muh sights
Trijicon HDs are the only ones you need
>inb4 muh .06 inches thickness, much .2 inches height
Literally makes no difference when carrying
>inb4 much 33 round clipazines
Not practical

Better trigger, advanced ergonomix, better mag release (if you disagree go m2), reliable and durable as fuck, nitride finish, what more could you want?

>>35151193
>Weight
>Trigger
>Bore axis

Checkmate athiest

>>35151021
This after certain extent 2 rounds doesn't mean much. If we're talking 5 vs 7 then maybe but the chances of you needing the extra 2 are small

>inb4 muh NEED autism
A mass shooter doesn't need the extra 2 either, no reason for mag caps

>>35151244
>Heavy guns help reduce felt recoil
>Preference
>No

>>35151244
>trigger
The trigger is much better than a glock trigger. The fact that you would use it as a negative on this pistol tells me you've never shot one.
>bore axis
Hahahahahahaha

>>35151053
Glock's grip angle is conducive to allowing better high demand shooting for trained users. You don't intend to be a beginner forever, right?

Is this new pasta? /k/ has had a drought recently

>>35151101
I've discounted his complaint since he believes it isn't ergonomically conducive to him when I gave him one of the best existing resources to verify that claim. Glock works well with all people that fall under a standard of deviation for hand ergonomics.

Secondly his arguments are only present among inexperienced amateurs so it would follow that he is in that category and does need to git gud.

>>35151116
>ignoring what you prefer is not a recipe for success
Prove it. Every proficient glock shooter there is with the same ergonomic considerations as those within a standard of anatomical hand model dimensions have all managed to become proficient with it. There is no reason to believe that someone else isn't just as capable or that any preference is a hindrance to becoming just as good as someone who prefers glocks (or rather a person who doesn't try to intentionally deviate from a glock).

I never preferred glock ergonomics, and it does point incorrectly for me naturally. I however have come to appreciate that the grip angle is more angled for better follow up shots. It's about performance and not about comfort. A McClaren is not a comfortable car to be in, but it is made that way as part of it being a performance car. The finger grooves, however, I don't even notice, and I suppose are quite nice for me to be fair.

>no really it's about how happy you are when you shoot your gun, that's the most important thing, especially for a carry piece! Never mind any kind of optimal performance concerns.

>Anybody who carries a 5 shot j frame counts on never having to fire a round for SD, anyone who's serious CCWs a AR pistol with a 100 round beta mag
Either you can admit that HK 9mm magazines are less functional than a comparative glock peer (and thus the P30 is a less functional gun) or you can try to convince yourself that highly efficient magazine design isn't a functional part of a gun.

>>35151193
>weight
>trigger reset
>can't even mount an RMR properly

>>35151244
>2 ounces makes a difference
>trigger is far superior
>HES FUCKING COMPLAINING ABOUT A MINISICULE DIFFERENCE IF BORE AXIS ON A STANDARD SIZED 9mm
Does the ppq recoil too hard for you hon? Can't get those sweet triple taps at the range because of the Mt Everest tier boar access?

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>>35151274
>can't refute him
>time to call it a meme
>that'll show him

>>35151297
Dude did you hear they dropped a glock from a FUCKING plane and it could still shoot?

>>35151305
Did you hear that your mother dropped you on your head during birth and that you could still manage to form a coherent thought?

>>35151292
Seriously this guy is speaking the truth

When are you guys going to get rid of your nickel plated sissy pistols and just get a Glock?
I mean the fucking S-E-A-L-S use them, you think your better than a goddamn Navy Seal? Pssshh think again kid

>>35151318
Yeah my skull cracked
Instead of putting in a metal plate, I asked them to fill up the crack with some of that based Glock Austrian polymer. It's actually stronger than bone bro

>>35151262
>>35151268
>>35151295
>Walthercucks getting this triggered by the truth.

>>35151320
The only SEALs I've met IRL prefer SIGs, one loves the Mark 23 to death.

>>35151353
>the Mark 23
>14 pound handguns

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>>35151334
>>35151320
>I really have no way to discount his argument other than a cheap strawman ad hominem
The absolute state No-glockers

>>35151021
Dudebro what are you smoking? Aren't you aware that Glock now has the Multiple Backstrao System? It's got 3, countem 3 sizes to fit every sized hand. Oh and you like beaver tails? Well Gaston was feeling generous and included backstraps with beavertails. You read that right
>backstraps
>with
>beavertails
Try saying that 10 times fast! So basically Glock is pretty goddamn ergononic.

>>35151353
Oh yeah did they have camo and everything?

>t.never met a seal

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ITT No-glocker inferiority complex.

>>35151337
Basically this

If you like Carl (the Cuck) Walther you ....
>like men with big black dicks fucking your wife
>standing in the corner of the room watching while jerking off
>encouraging your wife as she is being pounded
>lapping up the cum after the based black man is finished and your wife has had the orgasm of a lifetime

KEK

>>35151427
This is why they get so triggered by big black glocks.
Reminds them of how much their wife loves big black cock.

>>35151398
One kinda does, he runs a survival store that sells a lot of gear. The rest dress like normal people. Most of them don't like striker fired guns for carry.

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>>35151387
Same fag

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>>35151456
same fag

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>>35151448
samefag

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Now look I get that a lot of you guys might not know this but Glocks are the greatest handgun ever devised. You know who likes Glocks? R Lee Ermey
You know who else likes em? Hickok45

They're used by like 75% of police departments, so you know they're high quality instruments. They're available in basically every caliber and oh yeah every color - so long as it's black. Heh. The new Glock gen 5 might be the best Glock, Glock has ever produced. It's got no finger grooves and it's got an ACCURIZED barrel. You read that right the new Glock barrel will literally make your groups shrink. Oh yeah and no finger grooves, they're practically improving on perfection. Hear about the new finish they're putting on these bad boys? They call it DLC - I hear it even stronger than tenifer. Price? MSRP is 675, but I'll let you in on al little secret. I've got some connections with the higher ups in the Glock factory in Smyrna, and basically I can sell you this Glock gen 5 for 645 bucks. I'll even throw in this sweet MOSS PAWN ZOMBIE SLAYER hat

>>35151448
Essentially in a nutshell you hit it right on the head. Capeche?

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>>35151502
Try again Schlomo

>>35151526
OH HO HO!

WHO IS THE SAMEFAG NOW?!?!?!

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>>35151540
He's probably deleting his account as we speak
>REKT

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>>35150327
Undeniable proof. It's not like it's showing you those results because you specifically searched for it or anything

>>35151567
>getting butthurt by facts and proof

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>>35151502
Samefag.

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>>35151526
Au contraire ppq fags

>>35151576
>basically pretty much this
Glocks just don't blow up, kay? Gaston has refused to release his special recipe of polymer to anyone else, which is why they you pretty much shoot 10mm loads in a glock 22 and reliability will INCREASE due to the extra pressure. Of course if you run out of your mega 40 loads just throw some 357 sig (glock) down the pipe and you've got 9mm +p+ on steroids.

>>35151584
Now what a second how come this guy got all the (you)s but those other guys got only a couple (you)s?

Are we in the presence of a, dare I say it, meme magician?
>moomicas meemicas
>bee boop
>POW

HE TURNED ME INTO A FROG
*ribbit*

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>>35148834
Glock thread?
Glock thread

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>>35151624
This is why /k/ needs ID's and flags.

>>35151674
So stupid cunts like you stop making baseless samefag posts? You've been disproven every single time, how many times must we teach you?

>>35151687
>every single time
>>35151526
>deletes his screencap

>>35151707
I cropped it and posted it again here >>35151540
Are you still mad about people not liking glock?

>>35151716
Not even mad. I'm the glockshill with the earlier reply limit posts. I lay it out on the table why glocks are, to use an analogy, the honda civic of every day commute cars. Pure utility wise a glock does it best. Every argument I've heard against them is pretty pathetic and often reeks of inexperienced shooter or hipster. It's completely valid to buy other handguns than a glock. I have others and some I've carried as well. Don't just try and pretend that such a decision is a utilitarian one just as I don't try to pretend that something like my USP is the better gun when it isn't despite how much cooler and nicer made it is.

>>35151292

Are you literally autistic? I ask that as seriously as possible. Some people have preferences for different things, it's not a fucking conspiracy. He says he doesn't like how the glock feels and you give him a fucking hand chart? That is some quality autism, some I haven't seen on /k/ in a long time. Some people like different things, and he gave a perfectly fine explanation as to why and you literally went full tism on him. Christ, you can like glocks and recommend them as good pistols, but you're taking it to this entirely new level of fanboyism.

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>>35150336
oh my fucking god its 7barker7 the biggest faggot on the board here to fucking derail another god damn thread.

WHEN will you put your trip back on so we can filter your posts??

>>35150467

sure it is buddie. Been proven the less the gun weighs, the more often you'll actually carry it more often.

>>35151777
He said it would be better for him because glocks are incompatible with his hands. Do you believe his hands are different enough from mine or other proficient glock shooters to warrant that statement to be true? The statistical likelihood of that is quite low. I gave him the chart so he could diagnose if his feeling is supported by factual evidence and something other than just his feelings. You know they use these kinds of measurements for designing grips and furniture, right?

>Some people have preferences for different things, it's not a fucking conspiracy.
If I were to have a preference for wearing oversized boots for hiking should I wear them or a more fitting boot to avoid foot injuries? My preference for what I interpret as comfortable and fitting might not actually be what has been demonstrated to be optimal for my feet. An experienced hiker will know the importance of a properly fitted boot regardless of his pre-existing notions of comfort he might apply to his casual shoes.

A glock is designed to work within a range from 50th percentile hand size. If that guy was quite abnormal in his hand measurement(s) then it would follow that his notion of ergonomic incompatibility is well founded. If he has a normal hand then the only differing factor between a glock user with a similar hand would be his shitty opinion. I provided that data to turn his opinion into either a supported argument or a bullshit claim.

>>35151834
Not him, but can you provide the source? I'm just interested to see the article.

>>35150188
>I had a bad experience with one jamming up constantly at a range (my cousins, we both had FTFs, no idea what was wrong with it but he claims "huh it never happens!!

Doesnt really mean much if it belongs to the range or somebody else and they shot the shit out of it. My first experience with a USP .45 was nothing but jam after jam because the springs were weak. If that were my only experience with them I'd rate them lower than taurus.

>>35151819
>oh my fucking god its 7barker7 the biggest faggot on the board here to fucking derail another god damn thread.

that fag uses a p30l, moron.

>>35150467
>Also, weight keeps your muzzle down for faster followup shots

That's only weight near the muzzle. This is why les baer monoliths and that fk bro pistol look the way they do. An alloy frame or even steel frame gun will have infintessimally smaller recoil because of the frame material. Bore axis and delayed recoil via dual recoil springs are much bigger factors for fast follow up shots

>>35150526
Everyone who owns them say they're ok but take that with a grain of salt because they're obviously poorfags to buy such a gun and therefore can't shoot it much.

>>35150944
>Literally as thick as a glock 20.

>>35149339
>extensively modifying and weakening your CCW with non factory standard parts and machinging in the name of high speed low drag autism

kys

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>>35150302
>half of the results aren't even HK
>no explanation of why or how these frames cracked

Nothing to see here folks, just a typical assmad hi point owner sperging out because he can't afford non potmetal based guns.

>>35151193
Trijicon hd's are a meme. Ameriglo pro I dots are what I use and they don't fit the ppq. And I never liked the ergonomics of the ppq because of the weird ridges. The trigger IS good though.

>there are people ITT that don't CC a 17L

>>35152302
>he doesn't CC one of every 45 caliber pistol ever used by NAVSOC in the configuration it was issued in
Shameful.

>>35149339
How would you conceal carry a gun with an rmr on it? Thats gotta suck.

>>35152361
Fags here go out of their way to dress around concealing whatever their fanboy pistol of choice is. Many of them wear 511 or similar pants a size too big with baggy shirts, or uncomfortably appendix carry with the gun aimed at their dick all day in the hopes that in a high stress situation they'll accidentally pull the trigger trying to draw.

>>35152361
It's the same width as the side, so I don't feel it, since it sits in my holster. I carry 3 o clock btw.

>>35152386
Projection much?

>>35152419
Name a single thing wrong with what I said.

>>35152386
>or uncomfortably appendix carry with the gun aimed at their dick all day in the hopes that in a high stress situation they'll accidentally pull the trigger trying to draw.

It's funny, I AIWB a Glock 17 everyday and I forget it's even there along with the fact that it's never pointed at my body thanks to a wedge. Nice projection, chump.

>>35152434
What about the other half of what I said?

>>35152444
Dressing around the gun is a given. Sorry you felt inadequate with whatever single stack bitchgun you feel you can only carry in your skinny jeans.

>not carrying a Glock 20 or Glock 29 or Glock 40
lots of women in this thread

>>35152422
I wear a medium T-shit, size 32 shorts, and sandals and carry a roland special at 3 o clock. I can also safely handle a firearm. I wear 5.11 style pants when at work on base since I'm a military contractor, my company buys them, and I don't CC on base/overseas.

>>35148834
Carrying a g19 is autism, and posting about it on /k/ to disparage anyone who dosent is the definition of attention seeking you retard.

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>>35148834
>be me
>carries gen. 4 glock 23
mfw i see this thread

Hk fags are the most autistic gun owners. The screeching itt is sad

>carrying anything other than a .357 magnum
Pussy

I carry a fullsize USP in 9mm because I don't want to spend money on another handgun when I can just buy more ammo or plushies.

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>muh perfection

>>35154734
>from a carry length barrel performs the same as 9mm+P

>>35152508
Can't wait for your gun to kB because you loaded underwood or Buffalo bore in a gun built a plastic grenade company. Or you're basically just shooting warm 40

>glock 29
Enjoy your warmish 40. I'll be shooting you in the face continuously while your still off target from the muzzle flip of the first shot you flinched on. Bitch.

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>>35154487
Idk man, HK threads are usually much more chill than this thread, unless Muslimbro is there to insult poly pistols while getting berated for being muslim

I wish I could perma filter Glock fanboys on here. And I carry a Glock. Just can't stand the retards who shill them constantly. When people ask me what I carry, I say I carry an Fns 9.

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Real men carry real guns, not tupperware.

>>35156402
>fire 6 shots
>can't reload in less than 15 minutes
>tyrone rushes you with his kel-tec
>dead
Retard.

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>>35156239
Go circlejerk on raddit

>>35156467
>missing 6 shots
>not having functional fingers
>living in the ghetto
Not everyone has your disabilities.

>>35156364
>When people ask me what I carry, I say I carry an Fns 9.

You're such a faggot, even moreso than any other fanboy. This is the gun equivalent to white guilt.

>>35156517
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_FBI_Miami_shootout

>145 shots exchanged
>less than a dozen hits
>i.e., less than a 10% hit rate

Also, you are not FBI, meaning you'd be lucky if even one of your six shots hit, shit eater.

>>35156523
I'd rather be labeled anything else as long as I'm not grouped with you Glock shills.

>>35149339
>vanity or inexperience if someone gets something other than a 19

Trying to say a glock 19 is a better carry piece than a Walther PPS. GO and fuck yourself anon

>>35156652
>t. larping xdm owner

>>35156703
>hoho well you see this slightly obscure gun, that I happen to carry, is clearly the best because I say it is!

>>35148834
I can carry a Glock 21 or 1911 pretty comfortably inside my waistband.

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Is driving any other car than a Toyota Corolla as a daily driver basically just autism or attention seeking?

>>35157205
not him but those guns are representative of two different carry philosophies and/or set of needs.

Also the pps is about as obscure as an XDs

>>35150336
Please keep your eyes on the target when you reload.

Reloading fast is cool, but ultimately useless if you don't maintain contact with your target.

>>35148834
is posting this thread on /k/ again basically just autism or attention seeking?

>>35157693
Buying a modern Walther anything is the definition of contrarian. Carrying a single stack CC piece is objectively worse than a double stack. If you somehow can't conceal a double stack but you can carry a single stack you need to either change your attire if appropriate or just accept the fact you're relegated to a worse performing handgun. I don't try to claim my M&P shield is better than my glock 19, nor that it's a better carry gun. My 19 is far better than it.

>>35150535
>he doesn't want to constantly be reminded he has a gun every time he sits down or bends over
What a fag

>>35150336
get this coon out of here

>>35157685
SUVs and minivans are statistically safer in the event of a collision though

>>35157901
>Buying a modern Walther anything is the definition of contrarian

You do realize that isn't inherently bad right? contrarian merely means you do differently than most people do.

>opposing or rejecting popular opinion; going against current practice.

Hell, technically speaking carrying a g19 would be contrarian as well. While it may be one of or even the most popular singular model of carry gun it is certainly going to be less common than other guns combined. particularly single stack sub compacts and snubbies.

Carrying a double stack duty sized gun is much more contrarian than carrying a subcompact anything.

>Carrying a single stack CC piece is objectively worse than a double stack.

No again. They're better at different things.

Also, while the benefit of additional capacity is largely illusory as it is extremely unlikely that you'll even fire a gun in SD let alone need an additional 7 rounds after you go through the first 8, being smaller and lighter is of constant benefit to the user.

Judging by your other posts im just wasting my time here though, you're clearly a legitimately autistic moron who is so far on the spectrum that they lack the basic amount of empathy and human understanding necessary to realize that when it comes to subjective matters of personal preference there are often multiple options that are simply better at achieving different things as opposed to a singular "right" answer.

In a perfect world you would be either sterilized, institutionalized, or euthanized.

>>35148834
It's ok that other guns offer options that people may like better than Glock. Glock is a great manufacturer and the 19 is a really good piece. I shoot my friends all the time. I, however, went another route and have found the same reliability, better ergs, better sights, and features that I wanted on my firearm. Your going to be just fine.

>>35156600
By that logic i need a compact p90 just to be sure i hit something even 5 times.

i'm not trying to take on two veteran bank robbers with rifles, it's for shooting and scooting if possible.
escape is ALWAYS the goal.

if no escape, then i guess you'll have to go toe-to-toe, but if it's you vs. two heavily armed me you're probably going to get flanked and ded anyway, realistically.

>>35158249
Nigga I'm not escaping anything, if you make an attempt to rob you better fucking hope you're the one escaping or you're going to end up in the ground, punk.

>>35152261
>it's literally this easy to trigger HKfags.

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>>35157715
>a literal who
>trying to tell a USPSA master what to do

>>35158062
>They're better at different things.
>proceeds to attempt a rationalization on why having an under-performing firearm isn't a huge detriment

>being smaller and lighter is of constant benefit to the user.
Being able to shoot bullets is the entire raison d etre of a gun. Being able to shoot bullets and being concealable is the entire point of a CC piece. Either your clothes/body are appropriate to carrying the best gun for the task or you have to settle in a compromise with an inferior gun. If humans were somehow practically suited to CC 7" AR-15's on a regular basis that would likely be the gold standard and handguns would be the inferior choice, however Glock 19's have demonstrably been the best suitable gun for CC.

If you just came out and said
>the Glock is the better performing gun, but I'm just interested in these differing specific criteria. I'm fine with having less capacity and the other benefits associated with something like the G19. Since my job/social situations require x attire that isn't suited well for CC I'm better off carrying a smaller/worse gun.
Nobody could criticize that. However, all you say is
>well this other single stack gun is relatively better
and I just come by to demonstrate that it does nothing better than the G19 and see everyone throwing shitfits because they can't handle their choice of carry being called inferior. I carry other inferior, single stack, handguns, not as my EDC, but there are instances when I do when it's more appropriate. I don't try to pretend that they are better, I just acknowledge they are suited for more constraining CC requirements that preclude the use of better CC guns.

>it is certainly going to be less common than other guns combined.
>he doesn't know what a plurality is

>>35158249
>I don't plan on shooting criminals
>I always plan on shooting to run away
It's funny you say that since bank robbers also plan on not shooting criminals and also plan on shooting exclusively to run away :^)