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How come a shit poor country like north korea can put up schools

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How come a shit poor country like north korea can put up schools and produce smart enough people to make atomic bombs, missile engines etc etc and equally shit poor countries or wealthier countries in SA and Africa can not?
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>>35059389
>atomic bombs, missile engines
>implying implications
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Culture and history. Even junglenigger Asians like flips and gooks had some form of formal education as a communal village school or something prior to colonialism, the Korean peninsula has had public schooling for ~1500 years. Africa on the other hand has only a history of raping and pillaging.
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>>35059389
>and equally shit poor countries or wealthier countries in SA and Africa can not

Because it's incredibly expensive and they don't feel like it's necessary to their survival.
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>>35059389
They bought tech from Ukraine. It made it easier for them to reach where they are now because they learned from someone who had nukes before.
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>>35059389
Making a nuclear bomb is not as hard as it sounds. Also North Koreans probably send their elite to study in Russia or Switzerland like it happened with Kim Jong Un himself.
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Norks have more reason to want them than anyone in Africa
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>>35059437
It's not necessary for NK either. They're bordering Russia and China. Unless NK is a false flag operated as a free for all country where Russia, US, China and other countries are operating in to avoid breaking humanitarian rules. *thinks heavily*
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>>35059491
NK doesn't see China and Russia as allies, only as smaller threats than USA. Their long-term aim is reunification of the korean peninsula, and the US/ROK is the main problem.
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>>35059491
>It's not necessary for NK either.
I actually agree. A conventional war with North Korea and its aftermath is and has been for decades enough of a deterrent to toppling the current government.
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you know kim went to school abroad right?
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>>35059389
They're copying off other peoples shit and in general getting help that others didn't. Probably either have had help from "advisers" or simply could find out enough about nuke production from the literature out their to make a working one with enough trial and error. Maybe a bit of both. They've also been working at this for a while.

Most SA or african countries don't want nukes because they don't need them, they're expensive to keep/maintain, and nuclear powers would economically destroy them for doing so.

None of these are issues for the Norks.
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>>35059389
communism (juche to be precise)
they got the whole country at their complete disposal, makes it easier to run projects.
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>>35059389
The atomic bomb is 70 year old technology at this point. Everyone knows how they work and the only difficult part is getting enough enriched uranium to build one. It's not like the Norks are inventing a new piece of technology.

Besides, there were a number of nuclear weapons that were lost in the sea during the Cold War and remain unaccounted for. It's quite possible that someone salvaged one of those bombs and sold it to the Norks for them to reverse-engineer.
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>>35059389
Unlike best korea they have something to loose if they tried to do this.
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>>35059389
Because North Koreans don't have a subhuman iq.
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>>35059389
>norks
>making nukes

they buy them, probably through slave labor
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>>35059491
NK sees a nuke as completely necessary for their survival.
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>>35059389

Because other countries don't have an omniscient god dictator leading their country who shares his wisdom with it's scientists.
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Why hasn't Pyongyang gotten the Dresden treatment already?
It's not like the UN or NATO is gonna do shit about it.
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>>35059389
Nukes and rocket engines/ballistics aren't as complicated as you think. Basically every country having an university with fully staffed nuclear physics and aerospace deprtments, along with some small test reactor, with enough time and money, can spit out "acceptable" fission/fusion bombs and SRBM/MRBM designs. The thing is that nork engineers basically work for free and the state spends all its money on stupid armament shit. Also, the diplomatic fallout and economic sanctions of nuke development aren't worth it to any country that isn't an autarkic authoritarian state.
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They smuggle parts and pieces from China or Russia, same way they train their scientists
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>>35059389
>implying they have not bought or paid for plans / schematics
>implying they have not straight-up paid for information (Abdul Qadeer Khan)
>implying they have not stole information for their nuclear program
>implying they have not had outside help from a foreign country
>implying they have not had people go to foreign countries to get an education in this
>implying they have not kidnapped foreign nuclear scientist and extracted information from them

The list goes on and on...
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>>35059739
>bomb pyongyang
>they shell seoul and other south korean population centers from across the border until we destroy all they're many, many fortified artillery emplacements.
>international incident where we're the bad guys
in a nutshell
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Do the Norks still want to march on Seoul and conquer the entire peninsula by force?
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>>35059855
It needs to happen soon or we're going to be held ransom by norks with nukes.

Bomb them to oblivion before they have a chance to react. It's the best way, leaving it any longer would lead to more deaths.
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>>35059577
the whole country is also tweaked off its tits on cheap meth, which is a boon for productivity
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>>35059491
Kimg Jung Chang Chong doesn't care what is or is not necessary for his regime.

He gets what he wants and his people will do their best to get it for him.
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because africa has no hermit nations that can do whatever they want.
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>>35059923
the best thing that can happen is that Best Korea gets a viable nuke arsenal , and quickly.

No more nuclear tests, no more missile tests. Once they have a nuclear capability, they will feel safe and calm the fuck down.
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>>35059389
Literally genetics. Look up average IQ you retard.

African AVERAGE IQ is 80 points, which is literally retard tier. Add in malnutrition (~15 points) and you have an entire country of children in adult bodies. Some DOGS are smarter then their bottom third of IQ's.
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>>35059389
because all south american countries signed an international agreement to never develop, have or use nuclear weapons.
t. argie
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>>35059491
Socialist Korea has been under incessant threats and provocations from the USA since day one of its existence. Nuclear arms are the most reliable deterrent to safeguard Socialist Korea's right to exist.
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>>35059973
For real?
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>>35060443
yeah. Best Leader set up Meth labs a while ago to earn some foreign currency. Estimates put up to half of the population hooked on the stuff now.

Great for forgetting your worries, great for dealing with long hours, great for killing the hunger pangs in your belly
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>>35060007
That won't be allowed. They're too much of a loose cannon to be trusted with the concept of MAD.
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>>35060492
I think that's exactly how things will play out, but I might be wrong. What does your alternative scenario for resolving the problem look like?
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>>35060547
There is no easy way. The longer it's left the worse the consequences though.

Letting them get a full arsenal would be the worst possible thing because they would be untouchable and could waltz into south Korea without anyone stopping it.
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>>35060492
They wont shoot nukes unless provoked
Kims smart enough to know what that means
This is clearly a defensive move
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>>35059389
Iran sent them scientists.
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>>35060837
If they have enough nukes they could though, quite easily. If they have 100 nukes they could fire a few at a target and still have enough left over for no country to want to take them on. They could effectively dictate terms of whatever the fuck they like and nobody could stop them.

This can't, and won't, be allowed to happen.
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>>35060575
Kim might think South Korea would be nice to have, but the one thing he really cares about is survival. With most of his army being fit only for museum duty he'd need nukes to take the south, and betting everything on the nuclear war staying one sided isn't how you make a dynasty.

He saw what happened to Saddam. He'll get his nukes so he won't get nailed the next time some US president needs to wag the dog. That keeps him safe, which is what he wants. Attacking the south, with or without nukes, would make him a lot less safe.
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>>35059389
South Africa actually DID develop nuclear weapons of their own, but got rid of them, and Brazil had a weapons program that got very close
Libya was on the way to their own but the Americans put an end to it
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>>35059389
probably cultural differences

most south african blacks are still living in huts and belive in magic

asians were living in concreet houses when people in the west were living in mud huts

asians were really advanced
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>>35059389
probably something about asians go to pilopino country

the people are living in mud huts yet they can build you a glock or a 1911 in shitty conditions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1TXEE_QK4

or the indians they built a fucking satalite to lunch into space but they transported it in cow and cart
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>>35060007
>No more nuclear tests, no more missile tests. Once they have a nuclear capability, they will feel safe and calm the fuck down.

Implying the shitlord wouldn't use them if he ever felt he was going to lose power to his military or became ill from natural causes
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>>35059389
Because Russia gave them the rocket tech.
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>>35061867
is this for real? how do they get barrels? I know with the Luty which was legitimately made from household parts he had to use a smoothbore pipe of the right diameter for the barrel. I wish this stupid documentary covered that at all but it's so American that the narrator is too busy growling menacingly with drums in the background.
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>>35061987
>>35061867
>>35061867
your gonna lve this aswell some

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRte65F_KRk

them making guns in homes
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>>35059389
North Korea = poor people, respectively rich government

Most of Africa = poor people, poor AND corrupt government
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>>35059435
>"Okay crass, wercome to How to Buird Nucrear Weapons 101"
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>>35059389
>equally shit poor countries or wealthier countries in SA and Africa can not?
If you're wealthy enough to want an education there, you just go to Europe or the US.
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>>35059389
nice pin stripe dictator suite kim, where get one?
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Because niggers can't into organization. There are really smart black people but they can never get the lower ranks in file and the really smart ones can never stick together because once they become sucessful the spend all their free time fucking white chicks and be snobby.
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>>35060007

They see what happens when they have nukes, they will just become more bellicose with them. When you have nukes the Norks can pull off all kinds of shit and basically play chicken with us.

If the little shit was content for just atomic bombs to threaten Sorks and Japs the status quo would remain. Now he's threatening us directly and that isn't going to go over nicely. In that situation it's better to strike now than later. In a year or two they will be able to hit DC, in a few more years they will have enough ICBMs to do more than just a desultory strike. In a few more years they will have enough nukes to threaten a kind of quasi MAD situation where they throw tens or dozens of nukes at the US and our allies.

The can has been kicked down the road enough and it's going to get worse.
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>>35059389
They didn't make them in-house, they got it all from the Chinese
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All Bill Clinton's fault.

Letting Best Korea keep that shitty little 5 MW reactor.
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>>35059389
..you do realize there are factually correct and accurate tutorials available openly on the internet for the construction of thermonuclear weapons, right?

You do realize that at least the leadership of North Korea and some percentage of the military-slash-civilian population of Pyongyang has access to the internet, right?

You do realize that the Soviets literally spent 60+ years giving or selling for cheap weapons to them, including rocket artillery and aerial rockets, right?

You do realize that pretty much anybody with a US-high-school level understanding of physics can design a functional rocket, right?
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>The RD-250 rocket engine was manufactured in Soviet Ukraine for the Soviet, and later Russian military
>Production ended in 1995
>The last batches were delivered to Russia but "put in storage"
>The Ukrainian factory now manufactures busses and tractors
>North Korea has unsuccessfully tried to steal rocket information from Ukraine many times
>All of a sudden North Korea has all-original, Soviet-made RD-250 rocket engines

North Korea having those engines makes Ukraine look bad to those who don't know the whole story, destabilizes East Asia and poses new problems to US national security and interests in the region. Gee, I wonder who is behind this...
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>>35062375
Ukrainians sell even their own mothers.
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>>35062389

So do Russians. Even more in the crazy 1990s.
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Jeff Zucker actually runs NK along with George Soros and Prince Charles!
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>>35062425
How does Prince Charles fit into this?
Captcha:Harry
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>>35062375
stop trying to influence 4chan because you guys lost the pol board. just stop.
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>>35062578
He's like Dennis Rodman
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>>35062375
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>>35059389

Niggers lack the Neanderthaal genetics which allows for disciplined learning and craftsmanship.
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South Africa, Libya, Iraq,Syria
these are all shit tier countries that have had sucesfull nuclear programs before
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and Pakistan and India
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>>35062717
Hm yeah, those spicy Mongolian Neanderthal genes.
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>>35059389
The South African nuclear program was 12 direct employed people and 1 building, although it did take 30 years. Successful, deployed, and moved to fission boosted weapon development before it was shut down. NW isn't complicated for a low combination of reasonable intelligent people and enough resources.
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>>35059923
>It needs to happen soon or we're going to be held ransom by norks with nukes.

Not at all. All we have to do is wait. North Korea was a shit country before they had nuclear missiles and nothing has changed since then. They might have a decent warhead or two but they have no capacity to back up the use of that missile. Any situation where the north strikes first causes them to lose because they wont be able to survive what happens next. Because of this the US / best Korea can do whatever they want, including ignoring Kimmy, as long as they don't directly attack with military force, or else what >>35059855 said will happen.

This whole situation can be resolved by intensifying the pressure on north korea's economy and ignoring their military threats. Kim jung un will be left with three options:
1. Give in, save face, stop his nuclear program and try to open economic relations internationally, or
2. Attack some us / ally position with nukes and get obliterated, or
3. Do the unconventional thing and try some international indecent / terrorist style attack.

He wont do option two for obvious reasons, so he might go for option three. This only prolongs his problem as it would most likely solidify international economic pressure on his already weak economy, which would only push him back towards option number one.

In short as long as the us keeps a strong military readiness level and continues to push for more economic pressure on north Korea, we don't have do do anything about kims new favorite warhead.
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>>35064533
*to
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>>35061000
As soon as they launch a nuke with a trajectory for an actual target, they'll be glassed and not a single country will defend the NK's. That's going past the point of negotiations.
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>>35061867
They show guns in those vids that are clearly stolen from local manufacturers; they're not producing the quality that the vid makes it look like, more like Saturday night specials with electrical tape grips.
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>>35059435
spbp
>>35062072
kek!
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>>35060411
>half potato posting
shiggy desu.
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>>35064533
or option 4
>continue to be left alone and enjoy country as they want it, which is all they want

how are people so fucking retarded when it comes to best korea? THEY WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE.
All they want is to have everybody fucking ignore them, and continue what they want to do, which is living. Alone. Without shit korea/JEW.S.A. fucking with them constantly.
They have been a country since the '50s, they aren't going anywhere. they have literally no reason to attack anybody as long as people dont try to fuck with them

i want summer to end
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>>35059635
>It's quite possible that someone salvaged one of those bombs and sold it to the Norks for them to reverse-engineer.
akchually... That couldn't have happened.
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>>35059856
yes.
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>>35061851
>concreet
race realists, everybody.
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>>35064650
I want half bowl of rice posters to go and stay go.
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>>35060492
I'm not sure there's anything that can be done. They already seem to have the ability to nuke Seoul and Tokyo. A US attack on NK then endangers both those places.
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>>35064650
>they want to be left alone
>fuck with south Korea
>fuck with Japan
>execute Chinese representives
>lol just let them do whatever
>remember Iraq? It's pretty much exactly the same thing lol
It's astounding people are legally allowed to be retarded on the internet, you'd think the founders would have accounted for this
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>>35064777
fukkin this.
also czeched.
>>35064733
"half potato posting" is funnier than 0.5 bowls of rice, even though rice is more culturally relevant. half a potato just rolls off the tongue, and implies poverty masterfully.

I do wish Best Korean shills would an hero though.
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>>35059389
North Korea didn't learn anything, they've probably stolen or bargained for the designs they're using.
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>>35064650
>wants to be left alone
>digs tunnels under border
>kidnaps a Sork director to make bullshit movies
>tries to assassinate Sork president
>begins shelling a random fishing island village
>assassinates the leaders brother in broad daylight in another country
>shoots missiles over Japan and into Japanese economic zones
>kidnaps and holds a ton of Japanese fishers, barely recognizes they exist for like 20 years
>tortures american student into Potato

North Korea is NOT a state that can just sit at home.
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>>35059734
wtf? i hate the republic now
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http://m.yna.co.kr/mob2/en/contents_en.jsp?cid=AEN20170904010800315&domain=3&ctype=A&site=0400000000

>(URGENT) S. Korea detects indications of N. Korea's ballistic missile launch preparations.

They're really not letting up these days.
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>>35059389
Because the Norks know how to throw what little money and resources they do have at a goal. The various African nationz do not. This is largely due to many African countries being subject to ethnic sectarian tensions and decades of braindrain from the colonial days, which they're only starting to recover from.

When Europe cucked up and checked out, they left the place in a real fucked up state.
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>>35059740
This

>uses autarky correctly

My niggah
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Because everything you've heard about north korea is obviously western propaganda
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>>35065322
>>35059740
Is there a word that defines democracy based on qualification? As in, only people who are actually educated and trained for their roles are able to run.
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>>35059389
they hired chinks and pakis to do it for them. those other countries in your hypothetical are members of world treaties and dont want to become outcasts and suffer punitive sanctions and also rely on other countries for defense anyway
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>>35064776
Leaving it longer opens up the potential for a whole lot more casualties, especially if they have nukes they can throw short range.
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>>35062194
The US isn't going to invade someone with nukes. Kim's just secured the existence of his Juche kingdom for his family until it collapses internally.
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>>35062425
Nah, Prince Charles doesn't like commie bloc architecture. He's into neo-Georgian.
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>>35061851
>asians were living in concreet houses when people in the west were living in mud huts

No they fucking weren't. They didn't have concrete such as we use it and it certainly wasn't common like it was with the Romans and Greeks. The chinks were using literal rice mortar when the Greeks were building the Parthenon.
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>>35062811
Yeah, most Asians have significant neanderthal admixture. The exceptions are the Denisovans. Their modern descendants are Australian Aborigines and Papua New Guineans. Completely coincidentally, they also have the lowest IQ's on the continent.
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>>35059513
>Doesn't see China and Russia as allies
Explain to me why every world cup final on the NK news is NK vs. China with Russia coming in third.
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>>35059923
You can't hold people ransom with nukes, dipshit. It's impossible to enforce, because using the nukes ensures that you're also destroyed, which makes the blackmail utterly useless and impossible to actually enforce, unless you're a suicidal twit. Not only that, for ransom to /work/, you're giving your enemy some sort of timetable within which you're going to attack them, which makes preparing against such an assault vastly, vastly easier. Coupled with the US' ABM umbrella being sufficient enough to intercepted Best Korea's limited ballistic missiles, it'd just be all around retarded of them.
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>>35066644
The chinese had written formulas for gunpowder when Europe was in the fucking dark ages.

China confirmed most /k country.
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>>35059389
The gays
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>>35065559
Technocratic meritocracy would be close, definition-wise
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>>35059389
>he doesn't know about the South African nuclear arsenal
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>>35060382
actually anon african american IQ is 80. The bell curve of actual africans is around 70 depending on which country.
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