Convince me not to buy this. Anyone else buy it and immediately

>>35057694

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmC3NlfUd-U

>>35057722
>>35057761
I like this. Can I put a fagpul stock on it?

>>35057991
Only if you hate your dog.

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>>35057991
Not without a tax stamp first.

>>35057694
It's a shitty gimmick. Best used to separate an idiot from his money.

>>35058002
>>35058008
So I can?

>>35057694
Bought one for $350 a few weeks ago.

At this point the whole "stretch the gun" thing isn't exactly hidden knowledge anymore but that's the trick to making them very, very shootable, particularly in comparison to a regular pistol grip.

A stock is still better and more practical but I feel pretty good about my abilities with mine.

Made a wood bird's head and have a wood corncob forend coming in the mail and that shit's gonna look cool as fuck.

>>35058022
Sure, but a brace makes more sense if you're in the us.

>>35057694
breaching shotguns I have found with 00 buck kick quite a bit. my MCS is only fun to shoot for about 10 rounds then it starts to hurt. the shockwave will be better as it doesn't have a 10in barrel I would think

Is there anything unique about this besides not having a stock? Wouldn't that make it fucking horrible to shoot?

>>35058045
Magpul stock it is. Fuck the ATF babe

>>35057694
Well if you want it, get it. On the other hand, if you think you'd enjoy putting $350 or whatever it costs worth of ammo through a gun you already own more, don't get it.

>>35058022
It's a regular mossberg 500 receiver. Any stock meant for a 500 will fit it, I just think you might want to see how your dog feels about it first.

>>35058102
RIP doggo

>>35057694
I have one, its pretty easy to shoot and works well. I added some skateboard tape the the front and backstrap of the grip on mine to give a little more grip.

>>35057694
I mean, sure, if you're planning on robbing a convenience store..

>>35058061
14 inch barrel without sbs or aow bullshit

>>35058134
Whack a light & laser on there and you've got a pretty nice negro repellent.

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>>35058110
>>35058123
it's time to start something big boys

please don't laugh at me, but is this legal in Maryland?

>>35058220
>asking /k/ before checking your own laws
This is how your dog gets killed.

>>35058220
"We're currently not shipping this firearm to CA, NY, NJ, MA, MD, TX or OH"

>>35058220

>Maryland

Just assume you can't have it.

>>35057924
Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjThckYqBQ
don't buy this horrible pos gun unless you like things that look fagtacular.

>>35058316

Texas? What in the actual fuck? All the Houston stickup kids are treading water right now. Let us white folk have our goddamn funs.

>>35058316
updated, ***We're currently not shipping this firearm to CA, NY, NJ, MA, or OH***

>>35058340
I don't think psa has updated yet but as of September 1st the shockwave is no longer of questionable legality in Texas

>>35057694
>shotgun without a shoulder stock
why is /k/ so full of children these days?

>>35058555
for that matter
>using a shotgun for anything but shooting birds
kys kiddo

>>35058561
>using a shotgun for anything other than shuffling offf this mortal coil
Fucking queers I swear

>>35058555
Trips of truth, OP is a faggot

>>35058045
These things cannot be modified.

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>buy shockwave
>buy full butt stock
>think about stuff

>>35058992
Kek

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>>35058966
Prove it.

>>35058992
I don't actually know about shotgun stuff, what's the problem with this? What's the classification of the shockwave and why is it exempt from whatever SBS laws, are you not allowed to modify them?

>>35059054
Correct. Once you put a stock or a pistol grip or whatever on it, the ATF considers it an SBS and will kill your dog

>>35059054
>why is it exempt from whatever SBS laws

because the lack of a full stock makes it "any other weapon" and not classifiable IIRC

>>35057694
Might be alright in 20 gauge, but 12 gauge buck/slugs is gonna kick really hard without a stock.

>>35059094
How I've heard it is that you can put a pistol grip on them, but it has to maintain the 26" overall length somehow and not be a stock.

If you get a buffer tube/ar pistol grip adapter that gets it to 26" overall, then you can have a pistol grip and brace from my understanding.

Jesus Christ you faggots are bi polar af. Years ago everybody here talked about owning a sbs with out da gay ass stamp for hd/ truck gun etc.

And now when moss berg releases one dat doesn't require a tax stamp all you faggots start booing how it's stupid and unnessary and would never buy one for hd.

Stay /k/lassy

>>35059094
>put a stock on a Shockwave
Short-Barreled Shotgun
>Put a traditional pistol grip on a Shockwave
AOW
The Shockwave is a literal loophole gun and I'd definitely be VERY sure of your legal footing modifying a gun that comes with a copy of an ATF letter saying it's technically not illegal.

>>35059048
Pretty sure this is actually an unrelated AOW and not a Shockwave but I'm not completely sure. It's depends on whether or not braces count with OAL and I don't know.

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>>35059149
http://www.blackacestactical.com/_p/prd3/4364148895/pro-series-dtrs

>>35059145
>/k/ is 1 person
>/k/ is not full of idiot COD fag children
>unironically using "dat"
Exhibit A: the nigger brain

Nobody with combat training or experience would ever consider using a shotgun for anything aside from bird hunting, or in the very specialized role of breaching

>>35059208
I'm an old fag who also happens to be ghetto eiterway days not what's important. Point is barely anybody ever comments good about da shockwave.

It can be used for hd defense and used in a car if something ever happens.

It has a special role other den range fun.

>>35059180
Basically it's a box-fed Super Shorty with a brace on it?

I mean, I'm correct in that it's not a Shockwave and is unrelated to the Shockwave other than using the same ATF loophole.

I'm wrong in that it's not an AOW, which I said I might be wrong about.

>>35059633
>>35059145
Makes an excellent backpacking gun (I live in cougar country and spray doesn't work on them), for instance.

>>35059844
It is the same technicality that allows them to be sold. As long as it complies to overall length and is not legally considered a stock, it technically legal. I've seen people with rem tac 14" putting braces on them on arf.

>>35058555
Compact shotguns are good demolition devices. They serve a limited but very useful purpose.

>>35059145
I imagine that it is different people complaining.

>>35059048
blacked

>>35059048

Jam-o-matic
And terrible CS.

really not much smaller then a 18.5" 12ga with a pistol grip. And the extra length keeps you from blowing off your hand or leg!

>>35058387
can someone please answer why texas and ohio are excluded from sale of the shockwave?
could maybe see ohio, but freakin' texas? come on.

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Remington has responded with an exact copy built on the 870.
It's cheaper and looks a bit better to me with the FAGPUL slide.
Is Remington QC still awful? I could drop $300 on one just for laughs.

do you like to give the finger to the ATF???

if yes, than buy it!

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They're fun.

>>35062965
I really hate the fore end strap that comes on these, is there any way to take it off?

>>35063072
yes,phillips head screwdriver.

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>>35063090

>>35058332

This just in: using the sights is more effective than firing from the hip. That's a shock

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Shoot mine at least twice a week

>>35062463
Texas had an issue with the way the state defined a shotgun vs how the federal government defined one. The loophole that the shockwave exists in isn't present in the language of Texas' definition of a shotgun. As of the first of September, the language was altered to allow this loophole to be possible in Texas.

>>35059110
Nope. If was AOW it would need a tax stamp.
It's over 26" which exempts it from AOW status.
>I've heard if you conceal it it becomes an AOW though, as the "firearm" status is only viable because the ATF considers a gun over 26" "not concealable"
So don't stuff it in a trench coat, Dylan/Eric.

>>35062769
>It's cheaper

Not where I am from, Shockwaves are 30 dollars cheaper because they sell like hot cakes and they can afford to mass order them and make smaller profits off each unit. Plus I don't trust Remington at all so I will take whatever excuse I can.

>>35065346
The tac14 looks pretty cool but yeah, even if were 50 buck cheaper i wouldn't want to roll the dice with Remingtons qc

>>35058015
It's cheaper than building on yourself and nobody has any illusions about it being for more than anything but fun. Pull the stick out of your ass

>>35058992
>buy full butt stock
Who doesn't already have a 500 laying around?

>>35065593
I have my dad's old 870

>>35057694
As a cool thing to have around and a range toy, it's fine.

For any practical defensive or sporting use, get a stock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjThckYqBQ&t=4s

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>>35057694
In relation to this, under UK law, a T-Model Chiappa 1887 clone is legal on an FAC. I'm thinking of getting a lever gun slot on my ticket. Worth it for a bit of fun? I plan on picking up a normal stock for it as well for using in club matches for practical shotgun.

>>35058555
Shotguns are useless other than for hunting, door breaching, and screwing around. This does the second 2 things best, an over under does the first thing best.

>>35062769
Yes. They're still shit. When I was in the gun store last month to buy one, I saw that they had an 870 shockwave sitting on the wall. I went over to look at it and it was extremely hard to rack. I looked at it and it had rust on the side and underneath the action bar and a little bit inside too. Put it back and waited for them to restock the mossmans.

>>35057694
If they ever make one of these in 20 gauge I'm on board.

>>35066634
Why? Just get 12. If you're a pussy, just use #1 or #4 buckshot and aguila mini slugs.