What are your thoughts on using powerful 1W+ laser pointers for

Why just not strap it to my gun

>>35026775
Why not strap several to my gun

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>>35026744

won't incapacitate a determined attacker fast enough to stop them from killing you. definitely won't kill them.

will cause permanent eye damage, which they will no doubt use to sue you for massive damage. might also damage your own vision from the diffuse reflections.

conclusion: unsuitable for self-defense purposes. use a firearm instead.

>>35026816
I was thinking that the beam would instantly dazzle the attacker and ruin his night vision for long enough to let me get away.

>>35026841
You can use a fleshlight (preferably mounted on a firearm) for that. When it's dark 300 lumens to the face will suffice

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>>35026841
that assumes a best case scenario where the laser instantly and totally blinds the guy.

if it doesn't go down that way, you've just pissed him off.

>>35026744
What if your attacker is already blind?

>>35026901
>fleshlight
Uhh

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>>35026744
>>35026744
Where do I exchange portraits of slave masters for unlimited possession of this laser?

>2017
>ductaping it to my saiga

>>35026744
It's illegal and considered maiming.
If you're not willing to kill someone then you're not in enough danger.
Why do you fuckheads keep trying to fuck with my other hobby?
Is it because the price of high powered lasers came way down and even mouth breathers like you can afford them now?

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>>35026929
When I go out to burgle lasers fill me with rage

>>35027009
Your hobby is lasers?...have you ever seen a vagina?

>>35027027
Quite a few actually, in real life no less.
Sorry, I'm not socially inept and keep my hobbies to myself unless specifically asked.

>>35026744
What do you call those kind of lasers OP? I've wanted one off and on for a couple years but never badly enough to look in to buying one. I mean obviously if you just google 'laser pointer' you're going to get a bunch of cheap shit

I just want to get stoned and look at clouds or point at shit in the night sky, or pop balloons or shit like that

>>35027065
>Go to laserpointerforums.com
>Read, a lot.
>Get a good pair of laser safety eyewear.
>Then buy a laser
>Don't point at planes or people.

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>>35027027
vaginas are gross

dicks are objectively superior

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>>35027048
For real? Real vaginas? Can I come and hang out some time?

>>35026841
flashlight is better for that since it has a wide beam. You could use a beam expander but then the lux wouldn't be as high. Flashlights already have input power in the multi watt - two 3V batteries running like 1-2 amps.

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Was in line at a DMV some dick head is shining. A laser on my head making people laugh. Turn around and the fucker scanner it across my eyes, I called him out, then called the cops on him, he tried to walk away fast out of the building but I met him in between the doors and punched him so hard in the fast I almost killed him . He ran away dripping blood. Now go play with your laser sonny.

>>35026901
>fleshlight

Make love, not war. Eh, Anon?

>>35027027
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A LASERGINA!?!

I bought a 1w because damnit, this is the future. It's fun and using a head to project patterns at festivals is trippy.
I still want something that burns flesh effectively.

>>35028208
I hope the FDA catches you, faggot.
http://www.laserpointersafety.com/sentences/sentences.html

It's not a fucking toy, and should not be treated as such.

>>35027325
0/10 almost credible until you "punched" him

>TFW that's an illegal weapon in my country

You'll blind yourself far before anyone else.

>>35028265
how are you supposed to science without lasers?

>>35028269
fudd logic invades future stuff

yer gon' blund yerself!! e'll stick tah muh basic po'nters yep

>>35028277
And you're a retard.
Anything over 5mw can and will cause irreparable damage to your eyes.
Please, stay away from lasers.
They're already restricted as fuck thanks to dumb asses like you.
>hurr it's only light, how can it hurt me

>>35028233
Patterns projected into the sky far from air lanes and away from eyes isn't fucking dangerous retard.

>>35028327
>He thinks dispersion on a 1W laser is so great that it couldn't hit aircraft.
The optical range on a 1W laser is 56 miles.
Now let's say the refraction paper/lens you're using cuts that in half.
That's still 28 miles, not only that but you've now spread the beam across a much larger plane, no pun intended.
Do you even have laser safety eyewear?
I'll bet money you don't.

>>35028312

yer jes too grenn tah handle them lazers sonny!!

>>35026744
This guy made a 200 watt laser and it looks to take a second or two just to pop a balloon. I don't think they'd really be viable for any kind of self defense scenario except for causing the guy that just murdered you to be blind for the rest of his life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzUoe-9bKa0

>>35026816
>conclusion: unsuitable for self-defense purposes. use a firearm instead.
I concur with this anon. Be humane and use a firearm.

Also you would open yourself up to legal trouble for maiming your attacker. Send your thanks to the dindu enablers.

>>35026744
I think they're a nice, compact means of damaging an expensive fursuit or stupid hat or some idiot's sign from outside arm's reach, provided you can get one powerful enough. Not as good at dealing with someone determined to attack you.

Unfortunately they're banned in the US.

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>>35028355
>proving my point this hard
Good luck with the seeing eye dog, or at the very least the permanent spot in your vision.
>wanna know how I know that?
http://laserpointerforums.com/f53/irreversible-vision-damage-don-t-turn-blind-eye-laser-hazards-71299.html
https://riskmanagement.unt.edu/riskman/index.php?section=onlinetraining&group=lasersafety&module=3
Specifically
>Exposure to a visible laser beam can be detected by a bright color flash of the emitted wavelength and an after-image of its complementary color (e.g., a green 532 nm laser light would produce a green flash followed by a red after-image). When the retina is affected, there may be difficulty in detecting blue or green colors secondary to cone damage, and pigmentation of the retina may be detected.

Now stop being a "I didn't know it was loaded" faggot and actually learn about the shit you're fucking with.

>>35028403

ya jess dun gettit do ya sonny!? dem lazors sh'd be banned! you kids jess kayn't unndah staynd!!

>>35028399
>Unfortunately they're banned in the US
Wrong. Heavily regulated by the FDA, but far from banned.
It's retards like Wicked Lasers that got high powered pointers on their radar in the first place.
Meanwhile low key guys have been building and selling them for years.

>>35028350
A- it comes with the laser
2- literally zero air traffic, middle of nowhere

>>35028411
Again gomer, good luck when you're blind.
>B-but it was just a few seconds of exposure.
At least all the weed you're smoking will help with the inevitable cataracts.
Do you shoot without hearing protection too?

>>35028419
A - Have you ever checked your laser's actual power on a laser power meter; ie laserbee?
2 - Fair enough, but it's still risky with a refraction lens without being able to truly know where the beam/s are going to hit.
You're better off with a single beam in open space. Fuck around with the lenses in a forested area, where the canopy will catch it.

>>35028426
Why bother? It does what I expected for a 1w.
There is plenty campfire smoke, the beams are all visible at night but yeah, under a 30ft pine canopy it catches the spread well.

>>35028462
It's nice to know what the actual output is, is all.
Just be smart please. I know it's cool, but you're really playing with fire without using proper eyewear and such.
In 20 years you might wish you'd done things differently, and I'd hate for someone to fuck up one of their senses over "cool" factor.

>>35028420
ya prob'ly smokin that thur reefer too!

back in mah day cars didn't need no stinkin seat belts!

>>35028513
Again it ships with extra batteries, eye protection, internal key lock and locking hard case.

>>35028521
>back in your day
Son, what are you 20?
Keep up with the ad hominems though, they really make you seem smart.

>>35028561
Oh well then I'll just shut up.
>Do you actually use the eye protection though?
Who made it, if you don't mind me asking?
>please don't say Wicked

>>35028568
Yes I do.
No, some chink company. My only worry is battery life but the local battery service shop says they can service or replace the factory and spare set.

>>35028562
y'aint so smart! i know them lazers!

>>35028629
What battery are you using?
Ultrafire?
Is it an 18650?
What kind of run time are you getting?

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>>35028641
Not an argument

>>35028659
i went tah college gawd damn eet! them lazers sha' be bann't!

>>35028415
Why would the food and drug administration care about laser pointers?

>>35028651
Frankly I can't say. I'm 90% it's Ultrafire.
Duty cycle is like 2 min up, 4.5 min down. It lasts for as long as I've used it anyway. Although I probably use it 4-5 nights a year.

http://imgur.com/a/lK5zT

This help?

>>35026744
Can i use one against mosquitos?

>>35028668
They're the agency that regulates lasers, as it's a radiation emitting device.

https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emittingproducts/radiationemittingproductsandprocedures/homebusinessandentertainment/laserproductsandinstruments/ucm116373.htm

>>35028750
I gotta guess it'd royally fuck a mosquito.

>>35028750
It would be very difficult. You'd have to construct a device to track the mosquito (which will require it to spin at about 600 rpm on two perpendicular axes) then calibrate hit it and only it. You need more power, too, about a megawatt (very short pulses). However, it can and has been done.

>>35028265
England or France?

>do it for the queen, bin that beam

Just imagine the day you can strap one to a rifle and use it to cut holes in doors and shit to shoot through kek.

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>>35028666

>>35028832
Yeah, just imagine carrying an internal combustion engine on your back.

>>35028866
It may take 100 years but I will laugh my ass off from the spirit plane.

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>>35028809
>France can't have gu-

>>35028932

>Its only banned if you didnt go through a list of bullshit longer than both of your arms and sell your soul to a shooting club/range and the government.

The amount of pure bullshit that you have to go through effectively makes them unobtainable for the average joe.

>>35028932
Basically all I got from this post was French can have BP pistols and muskets and everything else you have to test for and apply for.

>>35027009
What wavelength is best for astrology also what carries furthest through the sky?

Which wavelength is most dangerous to the human eye?

So I understand these things are crazy dangerous to eyes and forbidden in war for obvious reasons...
but could they be used in SHTF? Or by rogue "states" like ISIS who give zero fucks about stuff like that?

>>35029236
This is one of the scenarios that is really not fun, If all the military aren't "looking into it" then I would be surprised .

What if a state or non state actor wanted to neutralize the air force of a given country ?

Would it be possible to utilized operatives to carry out a operation to blind some or potentially all pilots with a coordinated attack ?

If the pilots can't see they can't fly and then there is no air force.

What if a radical organization started a campaign to blind law enforcement or other critical personnel or even indiscriminately on the populace ?

If some individual were to do such a thing , the resulting publicity could inspire others to "copy cat" their actions , and then you have a truck attack type situation

I suppose the relative availability and sophistication involved would be a limiting factor but still ...

>>35028651
No name, 3.7v 4000 amh (?), using 1 or both possible.

>>35029177
>What wavelength is best for astrology also what carries furthest through the sky?

Typically, we use the bog standard green emitters for this purpose, they're highly visible among the black out sky of the new mexico desert, allowing basically everyone at the demo to find what we're pointing at.

>Which wavelength is most dangerous to the human eye?

Commercially available? Blu-Ray diodes are among the most dangerous due to output, and beam frequency. They're strong enough to etch metal, ignite flammables, etc. Without welding, or filter goggles, even the beam scatter (i.e. using it to 'light up a room, or just being in the room it's emitted into) in a standard room is enough to cause permanent vision loss

>>35026744
At 40W+ you have a good chance of igniting the attacker's hair and clothing, which is likely to stop him attacking, but I wouldn't bet anything on a weaker laser.

>>35026901
Great idea, distract them with the fleshlight, then shoot them in the balls when they climax!

>>35028411
But Alabama man, what if I only use the evil witchcraft of the laser to blind brown skinned people while they drive and also for burning the image of our lord and savior Jesus Christ into the back of peoples shirts so they and others can be reminded of his presence? Then is it okay?

>>35029880
Welding masks are NOT safe. Only glasses made to filter out the specific frequency of the laser is acceptable. We're talking light intensity a couple orders of magnitude worse than arc flash here.

>>35029177
>Which wavelength is most dangerous to the human eye?
Near infrared. With visible wavelengths you at least have a small chance to blink.

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>>35026744
Any laser that is powerful enough to hurt someone will blind you as well. I have a laser from China that is... well... less-than-legal here. It's powerful enough to slightly burn your skin, pop balloons, and see from 2 dozen miles away.

That laser is so bright that the operator of said laser will blink away spots on their eyes. Even if you shine it at a dull object, like a tree or something. One that is powerful enough to be used as a weapon is impractical for this reason.

>>35032581
Just wear the goggles.

>>35028375
Awesome video

>>35032697
>goggles at night

>>35027018
>clearly smiling in the top picture

>>35033123

He operates on an entirely different level

>>35033248
Oh fuck ANON ON SUICIDE WATCH...I don't fucking care. Can you live life without analyzing everything and/or finding small faults every where? ....if not...shit dude you might need to be ON SUICIDE WATCH.

ROE didn't mention anything about turning them into pirates.

>>35033123
So I can so I can

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>>35026744
Nigger, that will be the equivalent of a real good flashbang or much worse. I was dicking around with my 2w blue laser and i accidentally pointed it at a white lawn chair, one of those shitty glossy ones, about 2m away and the reflection temporarily blinded myself and a friend. ALWAYS wear eye protection when fucking around with that level of laser. If i were to shine my laser into someone's eye within 10m they would go blind, if not they would have serious eye damage.

>>35035319
dude you damaged your vision irreversibly

your brain has probably corrected for the damage done but never fuck around with laser any more powerful than what you can get in a checkout line

WEAR THE CORRECT GOGGLES OR GLASSES FOR THE WAVELENGTH

>>35033292
autist

>>35027078
>Don't point at planes or people

This is no joke. I know someone that got into some serious shit for pointing one at jet airliners. Not even kidding.

>>35028394
>be humane
Shooting bits of lead and copper into people isn't really what I consider humane either

>>35037114
Plenty of people have survived getting shot without too much consequences, getting permanently blinded is pretty harsh.

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>>35033248
fixed

>>35028961
>you have to test and apply for driving vehicles
Shit i guess you can't own cars then huh

Protip: regulation =/= prohibition