Good DA/SA pistols for concealed carry? Pic related is what I'm

>>35004696
>DA/SA
Why make life harder?

Da/Sa are nice if you have a primer that needs hit again.

>>35004696
get a p2000sk
>>35004877
>>35004980
ignore strikerfags; hide strikerfags' posts.

>>35004877
Only hard if you suck at shooting.

>>35005224
This. I Carry an LEM. Saved me twice from Nigger encounters in... [wait for it...] the same fuckin' year. You could always just buy a V3 and swap out the trigger. I am a Glockfag, but HKs are amazing.

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>>35004696
LEM is great for CC. DA/SA, LEM, and SAO cocked and locked are all better than striker fired for CC.

>>35005392
Any specific reasons for that?

>>35005458
fucking none, you retard. you're asking autistic neckbeards on the internet. kill yourself

>>35005458
For what in particular?

sig pro.

>>35005481
Rude desu
>>35005482
Why hammer is better than striker for CC

>>35005506
>Why hammer is better than striker for CC

IT ISN'T, EVERY ANSWER YOU GET WILL BE SUBJECTIVE

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>>35005511
triple dubs confirm truth

>>35005506
This only applies to striker guns without safeties. Striker guns are like carrying a series 80 1911 condition zero. Do you really want a gun with a short, light trigger pull to be carried close to your body? Heavier and longer trigger pull of a double action handgun or the longer trigger pull of a LEM handgun combined with the ability to put my thumb over the hammer during holstering provides peace of mind. I know practicing can eliminate a lot of the possibility for accidents, but I try to eliminate more of the chance by carrying a gun that makes accidents less likely.
>inb4 "lol ur dumb"

>>35004696
>USP compact
Why not a P2000 or P30?

>>35005604
>possibility for accidents
>accidents
>make accidents less likely
What you're talking about is negligence, faggot. Your safety level or DA trigger will not protect you from it. lol ur dumb

>>35005367
just got an p2000 w/ lem trigger and love it

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>>35005689
maximum 90's A E S T H E T I C

>>35005689
I'm just leaning towards it, nothing is set in stone yet.
What advantages do those have over the compact?

>>35005788
Get the full size then.

>>35005805
The P30 holds 2 more rounds, the P2000 may or may not fit your hands better (and looks better).

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>>35005809
not as A E S T H E T I C or operator

>>35005788
>88
mein nigga

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>>35005869
Wrong.

>>35005604

Dude, I just bought an HK, a Hammer one, but I bought it because it felt good. Nonetheless I've been carrying glocks and if you're not a retard, you wont shoot yourself.

>Intelligence>GoodHolster>TypeofGun

>>35004696
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>>35005974

Isn't that a Mark 23? I can't get one in Commiefornia, closest I could get to one was a USP 45 Expert model.

>>35005869
I need this shirt.

>>35006165
Nope, it's a full size USP (non tactical) in 9 or 40.

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>>35006184
what is difference between full size usp and full size tactical?

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>>35006754
It's USPecially tactical.

>>35006754
Note that just the 45 model is called the tactical, the 9 and 40 equivalents are called SDs
The tactical/sd comes with a threaded barrel, suppressor height adjustable sights, and a heavier recoil spring.

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>>35005696
inb4
>lol shoulda used kydex it can never fail!

How does the HK LEM compare with the SIG DAK?

Aren't those trigger systems just basically a striker-fired with a visible hammer?

>>35005458
Its safer, and more reliable.

>>35006934
Have you ever shot one? Its primary purpose is duty and carry use, not competition.

>>35006957
>Have you ever shot one?
no, I'm literally a nogunz poorfag

>Its primary purpose is duty and carry use, not competition.
yes, and...?

>>35006965
Oh, I see. You may want to start here. >>35005604
>>35006941

>>35006971
>6-6.5lb trigger pull is all it takes
really not seeing the difference. I mean, even Kahr calls itself "trigger-cocking DAO" or somesuch, but as far as I can tell the only difference is whether the force is going through a separate hammer or through an integrated hammer/firing pin i.e. a striker.

I'm asking this seriously as someone who's considering a G26 or a p30sk LEM

>>35006934
LEM is better

>>35006997
whats the difference between LEM and DA/SA?
specifically, p2000 v2 and v3?
>I've been trying to find a v3 thats not afucking cabelas and all i can find on armslist are v2s

>>35006839
shut up, faggot.
>>35006856
thanks.

>>35007011
v2 is heavy LEM and v3 is DA/SA
LEM means the hammer will return to the down position after every shot, it's technically DAO. In DA/SA the first shot will be in double action (heavier than LEM though) and the rest of the magazine will be in single action unless you decock it. I'd get the v1 (light LEM)

>>35007026
>it's technically DAO
what do you mean by "technically"?


>just found this

>P2000 V1: Innovative safety trigger with concealed cocking piece in the hammer, with a constant trigger pull (Combat Defense Action/LEM trigger of 20 Newtons) from the first shot to the last, without decocking.
concealed cocking piece in the hammer. what.
>P2000 V2: Like P2000 V1, however LEM/CDA trigger pull 7.3 pounds (32.5 Newtons).

>P2000 V3: Conventional DA/SA trigger and hammer, with decocking.

>P2000 V4: Like P2000 V1, however CDA/LEM trigger pull 6.18 pounds (27.5 Newtons).

>P2000 V5: Double Action only (DAO), trigger pull approximately 7.87 pounds (35 Newtons).

so all versions except v3 are just different weights of DAO?

>>35007067
It's closer to a long single action. It has a long light take with either a light or heavy break depending on if it's v1 or v2. DAO is heavy throughout.

>>35007082
huh. I kind get it, but I think I'll have to try and find a whole series to fingerfuck at once to actually figure it out

>>35005696
no, he was talking about accidents. An accident is an event. negligence is not an event. You can replace "accidental" with "negligent" but you cannot replace "accident" with "negligence".

Accidents are caused by negligence, yes. But you didn't have a negligence when you pissed your pants. You don't get to redefine the words that other people use just because you got zapped by the ND/AD fairy.

>>35007196
Let the strikerfag have his fun.

>>35007014
You'd have to make me. USPecially since there's no rules regarding PUNishments against puns.

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>>35006931
>failing to maintain your equipment to prevent a negligent discharge is not negligent

hey faggot, using a holster that doesn't work is negligence

>>35007196
Nigger, let's take a look at the original statements made:

>Striker guns are like carrying a series 80 1911 condition zero
Is he talking in the area of 3lbs triggers? Pic related, some stock triggers we measured in the shop recently.

> I try to eliminate more of the chance by carrying a gun that makes accidents less likely.
We haven't established that carrying a gun with a manual safety or DA pull makes "ACCIDENTS" less likely. In fact he hasn't established what an accident is.

If your manual safety or long DA trigger pull is *ACTIVELY MAKING YOU SAFER* that is, it is or PREVENTING YOUR GUN FROM GOING OFF, then you are failing to adhere to the basic fundamental rules of firearm safety.

Yes, his context was vague, and I am talking about negligence - not "ACCIDENTS."

>>35008578
What is your carry setup?

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>>35008609
Off work I carry smaller guns

>>35008633
Why don't you carry a striker fired gun?

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>>35008633

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>>35008646
>implying I don't
I have a variety of handguns

>>35004696
P2000 or P2000sk make for a much better carry gun than the USP Compact, even if the USPc two-tone is sexy af.

>>35005805
P2000 has a picatinny rail instead of a custom rail (though you can get most accessories for the USP rail, anyway) and you can swap backstraps. The P30 is similar to the P2000, but with different grip design and is slightly larger. Overall, for a carry piece I would go with the P2000.

>>35006856
The SD just has a threaded barrel. The Tacticals have an O-ring on the barrel. Yes, there is now a 9x19mm Tactical.

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All other answers are wrong.

>>35007067
>what do you mean by "technically"?
Technically it performs two actions with the trigger, but the hammer is precocked unlike say, a revolver trigger.

>>35008693
Can you stop shilling this so I can actually buy one next year?

>>35008693
>Walther
Never again. No regrets moving from the PPQ to a P2000

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>>35005805
USP9c might be the finest 9mm pistol I have ever shot. Don't you want to pretend like you're in Counter-Strike 1.6 IRL?

>>35008674
Senpai no pls. Pic related.

>>35008693
Was it carved out of boot rubber?

>that overhang
Thanks Walther for forcing my hand further down on the grip, I wanted to grasp the pistol as low as possible.

>>35008713
Unless you want to 90's or Jack Bauer LARP, P2000 > USPc every time.

>>35004696
thicc and heavy, less capacity than other guns that are the same size

it's a great gun, but outdated design

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>>35008693

That would be cool, except they no longer have the ski hump trigger guard (killed the aesthetic). I'd totally get one otherwise.

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>>35008737

The P2000 was the first HK I ever shot, I liked it. Then I shot a USP45, and just had to buy two.

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>>35008905
I really want the HK45 and the HK45ct now

>>35008938

I never felt the tradeoff for the HK45 was worth it.

Couple hundred dollars and two less rounds,

For

A picatinny rail. That's really it. I already have a light the I don't need an adapter for on my USP45, plus 20% more capacity. Plus I got the tactical version for the same price a basic HK45 goes for, giving me a threaded barrel and match trigger on top of it. I really never saw the point of the HK45.