Dear HKfags and Sigfags, Come back when your gun can do 18,500

My HK45 broke the trigger return spring after a thousand rounds, so I have nothing to stand on.

>>34977941
Good luck having a gun that survives 500 rounds without exploding on first session. Plastic garbage is the best way to describe a Glock.

Someone's butthurt over those Gen 5 threads, huh?

>>34977967
Anyone with a legitimate argument? Come on guys, don't make me talk to this namefag child.

>>34977967
>taking internet memes for a fact
Go be 12yo some place ealse.

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>>34977941
What's up, Guy?

>>34977941
pretty sure the MK23 did 30k in testing so HK has you beat

>>34978051
RIP Todd Green :(

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>>34978051
>420 hours

>>34978051
Would this be considered a patron saint along side the murder kube?

>>34977991
Nobody gives a shit about your first pistol purchase of a mediocre gun.

Fuck off and circlejerk with your larping buddies.

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>>34977941

Dear Glockfag

Come back when your gun can do 90,000 rounds without nading.

Sincerely, HK fag.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668

posted in the qdot thread or whatever but got no (You)'s for obvious reasons, so trying again:

I just bought a G19 and I have a maintenance question. I like to handle my gun a lot; if I don't touch the metal parts (slide, slide release, etc), do I still need to wipe down with rem oil before putting it away? Like I'm pretty sure my sweaty hands won't rust a polymer frame, but why guess when you can ask, right?

[spoiler]pls respond[/spoiler]

>>34977941
Come back when your pistol can shoot 1000 rounds consecutively without breaking.

>>34978128
because that's relevant
might need to dump 1000 rounds into a pack of wild porch monkeys

>>34977941
>Come back when your gun can do 18,500 rounds without a malfunction. Presenting the most reliable gun, ever. Period.

I carry a Glock 19 but err...

http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668

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>>34978090
>you never got to take a class with him

Feels bad man. RIP TLG

>>34978116

You're fine. The slide finish used on Glocks is very corrosion resistant.

>>34978165
Thank you, finally someone helps out a newfag glockfag. thanks anon, really. but if i don't touch metal, it doesn't need anything at all, right? and the grips simply cannot rust, because no metal, right?

>>34978147
I wish they'd run a test like this for the VP9. HK says its made with the same quality as the P30, while some /k/ommandos say its worse quality.

>>34978111
>posting hammers in a glock thread

leave, scum

>>34978183
>Posts a better handgun
>"That doesn't count because it has a hammer!"

I bet you were that kid that had an "everything proof force field" when you played war with your friends.

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>>34977941
lol fgt
175,000 full power .357 mag rounds without any signs of deformation anywhere.

enjoy your shitty chocolate bar 5th gen!

>>34977950
Dang, even the shitty blank cartridge USP version I can own hasslefree here in Germany did this.

>>34978200
I want one so bad but fuck if they don't cost an arm and a leg

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>>34978178
>HK says its made with the same quality as the P30

I would take their word for it and this is coming from people who have a heavy bias against fully tensioned striker pistols that have came out this past few years.

The MK23, USP, HK45, P2000, P30 are all proven and high quality pistols. The only thing /k/ knows about the VP9 is that it's noticeably cheaper than the rest of HK's product line and that's because of the cost involved in making a striker fired pistol compared to a more expensive to make gun like a hammer fired pistol.

/k/ doesn't know shit. This is the place where people badmouth Glock, HK and Beretta but are quick to point out that Bersa makes a good gun.

If you're really questioning the quality of the VP9, ask some people like Darryl Bolke or Wayne Dobbs on what they think of the gun. They have more trigger time on HK pistols than anyone on this board and they approve of it.

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What makes Glocks so popular?

t. Austrian without a Glock

>>34978222
they are the iPhone of pistols

>>34977941
I'm up to 13,700 with my Sigma. Plus it doesn't choke on +p

>>34977967
Pretty much this. Glockfags btfo.

>>34978226
>>34978231
arent they cheaper than other pistols?

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>>34978176

I had a Glock 17 that I wiped down maybe twice in a full year. I handled it constantly, shot about a thousand rounds out of it, and dryfired it easily another thousand times.

I dragged it through a few abandoned mines and left it in some damp laundry for a week. Never had a problem with corrosion of any part of the gun. Even when there was corrosion on the ammo.

Don't use it as an excuse not to take care of it, but it can handle it.

>>34978220
Thanks for your response. I think I'll go pick one up tomorrow.

>>34978237
They're expensive for what you get. The blue label prices are more reasonable for what you get.

>>34978222
They set the standard for a modern pistol. There are definitely things to criticize glock for, but 99% of people talking shit are trolls, retards, or hipsters. Also, there is a minor cult following of legitimate retards who actually think glocks are perfect in any way and can do no wrong.

>>34978226
this is also what makes them unpopular with autistic 4channers

>>34978239
this is why we glock, people
>real guns for real life

>>34977941
>18,500 rounds without a malfunction
Literally never happened once in humanity.

>>34978291
good point anon, statistically speaking there must have been at least 1 squib in all that ammo

Dear Glockfags,

No one fucking cares. The only shitters that tie their handgun of choice to their ego are 1911STRONK faggots and you. I wish sage was still a visible thing and I pity you.

>>34978309
>being this upset over a containment thread

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>>34978239
>>34978285

By the way, I'm also this guy.

>>34978111

The Glock was a great gun, but in the end the ergos were just a little off for me and it couldn't stand up to the raw sex appeal of the P30L.

I'll probably pick up a G19 at some point in the future to rice out.

>>34978220
Bersa unironically does make a good gun though nigger.

>>34978222
They're almost revolver tier levels of simple to operate, are reliable as fuck, fairly inexpensive, and have a massive aftermarket.

They don't interest me too much personally, but in all honesty if I could only have one gun for the rest of my life there's a very strong possibility it would be a Glock.

>>34978222
the fact that Glock were willing to bite the cost to make damn sure every army and police department they could used their guns. just like the AK and AR, when people are damn near throwing the damn thing at you, you use it and don't go away from it unless a) you get something else thrown at you even cheaper and works about as well or b) something completely reinvents the market segment and you have to upgrade to stay relevant.

Then it becomes a matter of hey look at all these people using this gun, they all can't be wrong.

>>34977941

>most reliable gun ever

So, a Beretta 92 series?

>>34978212
It's one of those few cases where you truly get your money's worth despite spending an obscene amount.

>>34978231
so i guess btfo has lost all meaning now if a meme reply is enough to blow them the fuck out

>>34978541
It has a long time ago son.

>>34977941
More reliable than 17?

>>34978222
Good marketing during the 1980s. Managed to secure a fuckton of police contracts during the 1990s. Rappers also made it popular among through songs and music videos. Then, there was the movie US Marshalls, where Tommy Lee Jones says: Get rid of that sissy nickel-plated gun and get a Glock. Civilians drank the police/gangster Kool-Aid and Glock became the most widespread handgun around. It's not the best gun ever made, but it gets the job done, so no point in police forces to exchange it for something new but only marginally better (it's the same thing with the M4A1).

>>34977941
Boy are you absolutely fucking retarded, calling out hk on a round for round reliability and durability failure test ia some ignorant new kid on the block highschool shit. Why don't sit your ass back down amd shut the fuck up while the adults talk.

>>34978200

Jeeze man I love that thing. I'd love to import a new one. Best handgun ever.

>>34977941
Lmao. Unless it's .40 sw, or 10mm, or you count limp wristing failures, or brass to the face.

>>34978192
Lmao, that's a perfect description.

> nuh uh I'm not dead because

>>34978200
Where you at glawkfag!? The future is now muh polymer gun ass motherfucker! Can your glock stand this many rounds of .357 sig!?

>>34978403
Correction Bersa makes a good pistol for $300. There are levels anon. Come on.

>>34978237
Only guns that are $100+ more than a glock are SIGNIFICANTLY better. Its competition is all priced within $100 of glock with most being the same price.

>>34978266
If old gen smith and wessons would have added a rail and 2 more rounds glock would have probably vanished like a fart in the wind and we'd be living in an age of steel guns.

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I'm not really thrilled about Gen5. The finger grooves give my average hands and amazing purchase. I don't shoot lead and the supposed accuracy improvements of the GMB seem lost on someone that isn't shooting a pistol off a bench rest. I'd rather have a theee pin than a two pin gram as far as durability is concerned, but I have yet to see how the RSA/Barrel assembly was altered and if the new two pin system is superior to the old three pin, or if this is just a cost saving measure due to the 9mm chamberings. As for the new mags, mag well, and beveled slide, I'm ambivalent.

The only thing I like about it is the new finish, which is Gen5 exclusive for now.

Don't know if anyone else has similar sentiments, but I just don't see a point in getting a Gen5 when I could get a Gen4, which IMO was more of an improvement over the Gen3 than the Gen5 seems to be of the Gen4.

>>34978266
>Minor cult.
There are millions of people right now thinking they have the pinnacle of modern engineering and materials sciences in their pants.

>>34978147
>>34978111
>>34978084
>>34978051
Nice try but we are talking without stoppages. The P30 had plenty of malfunction, just because it made it to like 90k without blowing up doesn't mean anything.

http://www.tactical-life.com/combat-handguns/glock-17-9mm-torture-test/

Come back when you can do 300k and still going. From what I read the rifling is gone in the bore but it still shoots.

>>34978786
or you can link the article that has something to do with your claim. Because all the linked one does is talk about replacing the sight and downloading to 15 rds after replacing the mag springs

>>34978461
only sensible person itt.

>>34977941
>most reliable gun ever
That's a funny-looking hipoint mister

>>34978786
I read that entire article. Just stop.
>GLOCKFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>34978963
Have you ever held or even fired a hi point? they are fucking shit. They aren't even reliable. This is a meme. They are just put together, then thrown into giant bin out for distribution. I even know the ceo. Basically the idea beyond their products is: "We are Hi Point. We are going to make guns for niggers just because."

>>34978461
*breaks locking block*

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>>34978285
It's a pistol, not a fucking social movement

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>>34977941
Any questions

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>>34977941
When are you faggots gonna stop shilling this shit.
>Glock 22s wear out insanely fast compared to the 17 and 19
>G20, 22 are notorious for the Glocknade meme
>it's biggest selling point is reliability in (current year) wherein most if not all handguns will stand up to what the average person would do with it
>still ships with plastic sights
'hurr durr people will put night sights on them anyways' no, people splurge on night sights because the stock sights are actually cheap plastic. You'll be surprised how many people keep the stock sights when they're good, metal 3 dots
>somehow tried to Jew the government so hard, they didn't even finish testing because the Sig would be cheaper


I could go on more like the grip angle, finger grooves, bad trigger, shit grip texture but those don't bother me

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>>34979571
Yeah, when are you gonna get another meme?

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>>34977941
>the most reliable bait ever

>>34979818
nice one pic. ooo ooo post the 45 one next. I love seeing the same picture of the handful of USPs that exploded.

>>34979852
Polymer frames blow up. Accept it.

>>34979864
no shit nigger. would probably be worse with a steel frame

>>34979871
I thought steel frames ate the rapid uncontrolled disassembly saving your hand. It was one of the only pros of the old steel guns.

>>34979920
Possibly. I would imagine the slide would fly off extremely fast due to the pressure not being able to break through any 'weak' polymer or the or nothing idk

Nigger that better not be the only reason you want an 'old steel gun'

>>34977941
I want to like glocks, I do, but they look and feel like a brick in my hand. I still might pick up a gen4 17 or 19 if the price falls below 400, but for now I'm happy with what I've got (steyr m9a1).

>>34978200
That's some high impact sexual violence right there.

Mmm-mmm good.

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Say no more

>>34978222
>What makes Glocks popular
Allow me to elaborate since you've had about a dozen replies from idiots who didn't tell you this. Glocks are extremely easy to self maintain and upgrade, you need next to know mechanical knowledge nor special tools past a small punch. There is a HUGE amount of aftermarket parts, and most parts are relatively cost effective if something does go wrong, and needs replacing or upgrading. This is the real reason Glocks are so popular, along with fuddlore and reliability. You can dump less than $800 in a USPSA setup and still be very competitive with high dollar 1911s. Everything before this is just idiots regurgitating shit they've read on here

>>34978750
You're an idiot

Just a heads up for you autists that don't leave the computer this fanboyism shit we have on here with Xfags vs Yfags doesn't exist in the real world, actual shooting community. Most people own variety of mfgs, if they own HK chances are they also have a Glock or Sig. This stupid 13 year old fanoboy shit is from /v/ and all their virgin angst. Everything is like some petty fucking competition. The fanboy shit and all the retarded memes are Chan culture. Thanks, God Bless, and have a great day

>>34977941
k

http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668

get back to me when glocks stop routinely cracking slides north of 100k rounds.

what's wrong with hammer fired pistols?

>>34980403
>MFW the gen 4 g17, widely regarded as perhaps being the most reliable glock model gets outperformed in every category by a springfield 1911.

Glock perfection.

>>34980450
baseless, and unsubstantiated claims. the hallmark of fuddy 1911 guys.

>>34978222
Your average glock cost about 128$ to make as of the late 1990s. they certainly cost a bit more to make now but they're most likely still 150-170$ guns to make. In a nutshell glocks are so popular because of their truly impressive marketing/business strategy.

First they started by sucking the dicks of every LEO organisation who'd let them get their foot in the door, then they showed that their products could compete reliability wise with just about any steel duty gun of the time. All at a price point significantly lower than steel guns.

This results in a wave of departments switching to glocks while glock is still making a reasonable profit "only" selling these guns for ~300-350$ a pop in larger deals. Then glock capitalizes on the sudden ubiquity of their design among LEOs and other serious users to make over their image into that of the end all be all hardcore duty gun, which gets the civvy market all moist because most people are LARPers of one degree or another.

Now the price of the civvy glock continually rises(oftentimes 600-650 on the shelf, ~400 something for wholesale IIRC) allowing them to both increase profit margins and continually subsidize LEO deals to out compete more expensive designs.

Problem is people have started to catch on and try to beat glock at their own game, just look at the MHS hullabaloo. Everybody is butthurt that sig out glocked the glock while somehow managing to actually listen to what their buyer wanted instead of trying to push off their own preconceived ideas of perfection on them.

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Fugg there used to be this old torture test with a Glock and HK USP where he drops his Glock from a helicopter it airplane, but it looks like the page is down. Has been around for probably 10 years, the Glock beat the HK in all categories of reliability . I believe he even shot the slide with .22 bullets

EDIT: I found it, Enjoy
www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/glock-21-torture-test/amp/

>>34980457
>>34980457
>1911: 64,579 15 stoppages 0 malfunctions 5 parts breakages

>glock: 71,260 rounds 19 stoppages(+1 w/non-LCI extractor) 0 malfunctions 3 parts breakages

Didn't realize toooldtobehere is too old to have learned to read properly in school also. Although i was wrong about the in every category thing, misread the 3 as an 8.

So, glock had 33% more stoppages but 40% fewer parts breakages.

>>34977941
Can't we just....ya know...like all the guns?

>enjoy my sig p229 cause that delicious all metal frame and a crisp S.A. trigger
>enjoy my block 35 cause muh sight radius and with my 9mm conversion barrel I can plink for cheap
>enjoy my shield because it's a splendid size for CC yet I don't hate shooting it due to its size

I like anything that goes boom, even if it's a turd made from pot metal.

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>>34977941

Glock owner here. I don't see why people care about what pistol(s) someone else use.. Just get something that's right for you and that you feel is reliable. After all, it's YOU that need to land shots where they need to be, not everyone else.

I'm happy with the Gen 5 changes, but I wouldn't blindly dismiss other pistols just because of brand loyalty. I'm curious about the Rex Zero 1 as well.

>>34980586
Well said anon

>>34980445
Striker babbys are afraid of training so double action or flipping safeties is too complicated and scary for them.

>>34980394
Do you not have an instagram? Everything you just said is completely wrong.

>>34980506
All of this.

>>34978222
Fun to shoot, easy as fuck to maintain, huge aftermarket support, not too expensive. Contrary to popular /k/ opinion, your manliness in not dependent on how much money you spend on your firearm. That being said, glawks are not "perfect" and the experience, like anything else is highly subjective. I have big hands so I like the out of the box grip customization gen4s offer. Some ppl hate on them bc some gen3s blew up using reload ammo, but that was addressed years ago.

>>34980606
People are tired of glock owners deciding that they are responsible for glocks marketing and shilling to the point of lgs trying to talk decided customers out of what they planned on buying.

>>34977941

Thanks but I don't want my shit exploding.

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>>34978338
That gun makes my dick hard.

>>34978239

I like Glocks but you seem like a gigantic clock slobbering faggot. You got a little dirt on your jeans and as a result have to drink piss water Mexi-beer because YER A MAN.

Fuck off.

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>>34977941
>MFW I own a Sig, HK, and Glock pistol

>>34980379
> triggered

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>most reliable pistol
>does worse than a fucking Luger and a 1911
Glock truly is the AK of pistols

>>34977941
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/160710-chat-hk-armorer-must-read.html#/topics/160710
Call me when your Austrian Tupperware can go through 290,000+ rounds with only a recoil spring change

>>34977941
My glock 19 is the worse performing gun I own. I wanna chuck it into the woods every time I shoot it.

>>34978285
I like glocks, but holy shit, that sounded incredibly gay.

>>34978205
are you talking about those rohm hk ?

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>>34977941

>>34978084
No, it did 30k +p

>>34980872

You seem real mad.

I spent a day checking out some nifty old mines and had a beer when I got back to where I parked because it was good? Does that trigger you? Or do you just not like Corona so you're upset someone likes something you don't?

Have you been outside recently anon? We're worried about you.

>>34978461
>>most reliable gun ever
>So, a Beretta 92 series?
I remember qualifying with the M9. Great training for stoppage drills.

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>>34979852
You sound mad that hk's blow up with the same frequency as glocks. The only reason there are less pictures is that few people buy hk's compared to glocks.

>>34982514
Kinda like putting a g19 in a dryer for 2-5yrs straight with a loaded magazine in it and complaining the it malfunctions desu senpai.

service M9s are notorious for having bad mags, being shot to shit, and having worn springs

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>>34977941
Introducing the reason I'll never buy block. Pick related.

>>34982842
>nigger robbing you
>wait let me unfold my gun
>ahh it pinched my finger owie

>>34982842
that isn't made by glock...

>>34982842
Because people innovate with glocks?

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>>34982867
Insignias.

>>34978786
http://pistol-training.com/archives/2668
>P30
>less than one stoppage per 27k rounds fired

Read it and weep, fag.

I'm gonna be pissed when muslimbro wakes up a shits up this thread

>>34982932
The conversion isn't made by glock..

>>34982952
That's not possible, I doubt these idiots know what they were doing.

>>34982986
Alright I'll give you that one. However. Still wouldn't buy one if this is just the test subject.