"No one is coming to take your guns goy" Then wha

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Yeah, California has one of those too.stack your 80's and carry on.

>>34936274
Liberals lie. You can't spell liberal without l-i-e.

how is this constitutional? has this been tested in court?

>>34936274
Welp, this confirms my plans of not moving back to Oregon. fuck.
oh well, it was nice once, back in the day.

>>34936274
Hopefully this will shut up all the people who think the political process can protect the right to bear arms. The only protection for freedom is violence. We need to go full day of the rope and hang everyone who has voted Democrat in the last 10 years.

>>34936574
Hopefully it gets overturn.

>>34936789
Is anyone trying to overturn it?

>>34936775
>>>/pol/

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>>34936274
C U C K E D
truly unfortunate. wonder if any police are gonna get gunned down trying to take peoples funs for no reason, or if the police even enforce it all

>>34936793
>>>/cuck/

>>34936274

Cold dead hands

>>34936854
Hawaii has a federal database for firearms owners.

>>34937352

What

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>>34936274
>tfw oregonian
It's over, it's all over.

>>34936854

Police probably won't bother enforcing it until the one special example where some overweight and undertrained LARPer does manage to shwack some backwater undertrained cop, then local, state, and federal tactical teams who actually train are going to go crazy and genocide the rest of the fat 'muh guns' LARPers.

>>34937414
welcome to the current year

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>>34936775
Fuck off back to your containment board

Those filing fake orders could be imprisoned for up to a year, or pay a fine of up to $6,250, or both.

>>34938281
I have to wonder what qualifies as a "fake" order. All you'd need to do is say that your target acts strangely and says a lot of crazy shit. It would just come down to a case of he-said she-said bullshit regardless of whether you're telling the truth or not.

>guns.com
Great unbiased source there OP

>>34936274
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>>34936574
>>34936791

For this to get overturned it actually has to be enforced on someone. I doubt that will actually happen and if it does that person will likely be either a) about to kill themselves b) charged with some other crime like domestic abuse.

A person would have to get their shit taken away and either damaged or not given back then there would be a cause of action. Then there would a be a claim against the government which would go into federal court as under U.S. v. MacDonald the right to bear arms is a fundamental right. Then you have to get a district judge that would agree that the right has been abused and not let the state win on some technicality (unlikely). Then it would have to go to the 9th Circuit Court and likely it would be held constitutional there since that court is fucking insane or the 9th would decided this really isn't a constitutional issue. I doubt the Supreme Court would take it after the 9th because a) they really hate fundamental rights cases b) there's no split in the circuit courts.

Basically it will just die in the federal court system but probably won't be abused because the state does face a risk of having this declared unconstitutional and all the fuckery that would bring.

Someone could also argue that the mechanism of the hearing is federally unconstitutional for lack of due process. I doubt that would go anywhere.

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ITT : Nobody read the article

If you threaten sudoku or threaten a school shootout they'll take your guns away, AFTER it goes through a civil court, and it lasts only 1 year anyway

Chill the fuck out retards

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>>34938354
And you obviously did not read the law. Its a clear and convincing evidence is a bullshit standard.

>"free from confusion, fully intelligible, distinct" and which establishes that the truth of the asserted fact is "highly probable."

Judges are going to find it "highly probable" that something is going wrong simply because the person owns a deadly weapon. All the law enforce will have to do is make a decent argument with some evidence (like posts on a malaysian basket weaving forum) and boom no more guns.


Yea but if you read the law it will absolutely fuck with your ability to get guns in the future.

>(d) Upon receipt of a copy of the order and notice of completion of service by a member of a law enforcement agency, the county sheriff shall immediately enter the order into the Law Enforcement Data System maintained by the Department of State Police and request that the order be entered into the databases of the National Crime Information Center of the United States Department of Justice.

Since they are going to report to all those agencies it will show up on your 4438 forever which will likely deny that form.

I was going to move to Oregon and own guns

Should I abandon all hope

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>>34938411
lol get btfo fgt

>>34938447
Maybe. Don't be a dumbass and don't publicly an hero and you will be fine but since you're on 4chan there's a decent chance you're a suicidal survivalist furry trap so they might be able to take your funs away for being a wacko.

>>34937352
if it's only one state it's not "federal"

>>34936740
>>34936775
>>34936854
>>34937467
>not reading the article
If you're not mentally or emotionally incapable of handling a firearm, you're fine.

>>34936274
Sakura makes me want to bop my bologna.

>>34939185
And who deems you being fit to own the firearm?
The liberal judge who just moved from Cali?

>>34936775
Enjoy prison you cuck

>>34939202
I thought the only users of this site were morally upstanding, responsible, and well-loved members of our respective communities, at least that's what I've been led to believe by browsing /pol/ for 10 minutes. What do you have to worry about?

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At least there's some limits.

>>34939202
But anon all judges are impartial, justice is blind... And ball gagged if you are into that sorta thing

Here's how I see this:

>oh man i wish mass shootings happened less so i could not fear retaliatory gun bans
>if someone thinks a person is mentally ill and has firearms and might hurt someone/others they should be allowed to call the police and state their case
>police will be able to weed out super-false claims quickly because the thin-blue-line is pretty good at moderating domestic disputes and people on drugs who lie for attention/spite (yes that is most of their job)
>more difficult-to-prove claims that are ultimately false will land the false-accuser in prison

gun suicide rates are high and if you don't think that won't be a constant talking point of democratic gun control measures you're a fucking fool

this law is crafted to allow a family member to call the cops on a suicidal person with guns to stop them, or much worse a crazy person they know with guns who idolizes the columbine cats and wants to off a bunch of people because of petty revenge fantasies

you would completely understand this law if you ever had someone you know tell you point blank "i'm going to shoot myself with my gun that I own that I'm holding" and then try to call the cops to help them. how do you like being put on hold? you're gonna be interrogated for a verrrrrrrrry long time and they'll ask you a bunch of dumb questions.

"do you think the person has the capability to do this?" - yes they own guns and keep them loaded

"have they ever made these kind of threats in the past?" - no they haven't that's why I'm calling you for the first time

"do you really think they'll do it?" - yes that's why i fucking called 911 for christ's sake

"like do you reaaaaaaaaaaally think they'll do it" - yes like stop asking me this question

this law applies to a lack of procedure in 911 calls and for mental health reasons

if you're not okay with this then don't come to fucking oregon. specifically western oregon. you can stay in eastern oregon and remain totally irrelevant as always

>>34939227
Spiders that are not spiderbros.

>>34936274
Oregon is such a beautiful state, they need to bomb Portland to fix it.

>>34936274
I like how legislation can just be proposed and signed without being put to a public referendum.

Wow, what a great country!

>>34939253
>"Hello police? My son has a gun and over 200 rounds of ammunitions, I think he is going to do something!"
>This is how you get your door kicked in for plinking and your mother is a wild soccer mom.

>>34939267
Can we take out Seattle too please?

>>34936274
>imminent risk

How is this supposed to work? Does the party having the order imposed on them not have any warning it's coming?

Because if you get a notice about a court date and it tells you what the court date is about it's completely worthless, the so-called imminent danger just got more immediate.

>>34939275
>person a says person c is gonna do x
>police take person c into custody
>stip him of his guns anything he can "harm" people with
>stick him in mandatory 72 hour holding period psyche ward

>>34939277
But that's not what happens because of the so-called "review" process.

I'd bet they issue a court date to the accused party.

>>34939270
states usually have representatives too.

it's state legislation btw

>>34936274

SHALL

Oregon is the new California, and Washington is next.

>>34939300

NOT

>>34939307

BE

>>34939310
NIGGER

>>34939271
How old is this theoretical son, why is he still living with his mother, and why has he kept his ownership of a firearm a secret from her?

>>34936274
> file a petition with the court which could lead to an order prohibiting firearms possession if it is believed they pose an imminent risk to themselves or others.

So not allowing wackjobs to own guns? you fuckbois always say "guns arent the problem its crazy people" well here is your law to report crazy people, it goes to court and if they are crazy no guns for them, if you're running this through the fearmonger filter you're either retarded or afraid your mental illness is going to get your guns taken away, which should be the case.

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@34936775
@34936861
Well congratulations, (You) got
(you)rselves caught. What’s the next
step of (you)r master plan?

>>34936274
>Those filing fake orders could be imprisoned for up to a year, or pay a fine of up to $6,250, or both.
>or stored with a third party such as a gun dealer.
>The subject of the order has 30 days to request a hearing to keep their firearms, which must be held within 21 days.

Eh, it's not great, but it's only a year prohibition, you have to prove they're a threat to self or others, you can contest it, and you have the option of paying to store with a third party until the order expires.

>>34936574
the law would infringe on and break so many other laws in order just to be enforced its a clusterfuck waiting to happen.

>>34936775
start with the 9th circuit court of appeals as they are the root of the problem

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>>34939185
>mentally or emotionally incapable
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
WHAT DO YOU STATIST KEKS NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT PHRASE? IT SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. NOT FOR NIGGERS, NOT FOR THE MENTALLY ILL, NOT FOR SLANTS, SPICS, OR SLIMES.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>34941761
That phrase only applies to humans. Niggers, spics and mental cases are not people.

>>34942073
As our Cheeto in Chief is so fond of saying;
Wrong.
The Constitution of the United States of America, and all of the rights it grants, apply to all Citizens of the United States regardless of supposed humanity. So even if they weren't human, it wouldn't matter.

>>34936292
what the fuck?

>>34939446
25, he doesn't, she's a nosy bitch

>>34939229
Define fake order. Mistaking some self depreciating meme as a suicide note? Posting a politically charged picture to facebook? Yelling at your Ex for not taking your name of the title of the car she took from you in the separation? There is lot of gray area here. Where there is gray area it is easily abused.

>>34941761
The key word is infringed and how it was used back in the days.

>>34942163
>duuuhburrugurg DEY DIDNT MEAN THAAAAAAAT, RIGHTS FOR ME NOT FOR THEE!
Don't you have some government dick to suck, Libshit?

>>34942087
It actually applies to all people under the US' jurisdiction unless the particular clause specifically says "citizens."

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>>34936793
I've seen Republicans, Commies/socialists/ancom, Fascists, and Libertarians/ancaps in this board (all sides have excuses for being pro-gun) but why the fuck is there a butthurt Democrat in MY /k/?????

>>34942170
>They didn't mean that.

They literally didn't mean that because the word had a different meaning back then.

>>34942192
>commies
>fascists
>progun

>>34936574
>implying the 9th Circuit gives a shit about upholding the constitution

>>34942195
Wrong. It's pretty fucking clearcut what "Shall Not Be Infringed" means, unless you actually have some alternate definition that isn't cherrypicked to support your commie agenda.

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>>34942198
>>34942198

Gommies: "lol we nedd guns to sieze meanies and overthrow shiett"

Fascists: *general conservative ideology* + "muh Hitler didn't actually ban guns" + "we need guns to kill degenerates"

Anyways, both sides are for having guns for themselves but not for their enemies, so they are enemies of the 2A

>>34942248
>>34942198
>>34942239
>>34942163
>(((Pro-Gun))) cuckservatives
Day of the Rope soon traitors.

>>34942265

y-you too :(

>>34942087
So should we start giving a citizenship to cats and dogs as well?

>>34942911
I mean why not?

>>34939844
Not the case at all. I agree this is a logical "common sense" gun law that when applied correctly will have great societal benefit.

However the current environment we live in renders this into an area that we know will be abused, or expanded upon to great denial of constitutional rights.

Honestly I'm interested to see how it would turn out in this small scale rather then becoming a national policy.

>>34936274
Well this fucking sucks for the first cop to get shot in the face trying to illegal seize a citizens firearm in his own home.

>>34942926
Well I suppose. I want to give my cat some means to defend herself against yotes.

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>>34939185
>mentally or emotionally incapable of handling a firearm
only crazy people want firearms sweetie

>>34943308
>They write a living document intended to evolve with the times
>We must always follow the racist ways of the past!

>>34942248
The right of the people to keep and bear arms doesn't apply to commies, because commies aren't people.

>>34943078
Actually, would it be wrong to call her "my" cat if she's a citizen? Slavery being bad and all that.

So if I take a medication that has the possibility of a side effect being suicidal thoughts can my doctor rat me out for no reason?

>>34943484
Mental illness is a myth to expand democrat control and their big pharma donors' profits.

popular tactic in any soft statist regime is to throw dissidents into mental asylums

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>>34936274
n nothing to see here

>>34939185
get ready for increasingly an vague definition of "mentally ill"
and have fun with them court proceedings

>>34939185
Not the point

>>34939301
pls no

>>34936775
Hello officer, good hunting today?

>>34936311
>or stored somewhere else
Tragic tragic boating accident

>>34943596
Did you do your E-Meter reading today?

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>>34936775
Wow made my brain tingly
Good job anoon

>>34944102
They will seize your boating incident.

>>34944102
>or any bank funds you may be holding with a perceived constructive intent to purchase additional firearms & ammunition in the future

>>34944326
>Please report yourself to the nearest medical professional for a mandatory lobotomy to ensure the thought process of firearms are eliminated.

>>34944326
Wait what, they can seize your money?

>>34944408
im only projecting but,
tip of iceberg in sight
what's beneath the surface is the real danger

>>34944408
It's for your own protection, citizen.

>>34944160
provide the mathematical basis for mental illness

prove your hypothesis with irrefutable logic

not easily manipulable statistics, poorly interpreted data, and conjecture.

show me the mathematical formula that explains schizophrenia

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its happening

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>>34936775
this is my recurring wet dream

>>34938776
they're entering all gun owners into the FBI's Rap Back database

>>34936274
>Those filing fake orders could be imprisoned for up to a year, or pay a fine of up to $6,250, or both.

Any doubt anyone who tried this will have the gun owner making this claim?

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>>34944553
what was his name again?

>>34936317
so does New York

Are you suicidal or planning a school shooting? If not you have nothing to worry about.

>>34944857
>It was obviously a simple mistake after all normal people know only mentally ill people want to own firearms
>your neighbor was worried about your mental health you should be grateful you have such caring neighbors
>oh you want your firearms back, tough luck we destroyed them because it seemed like at the time you wouldn't be certified sane who could fault us for making such a common sense judgement

>>34944539
Show me the mathematical formula that explains turbulence motherfucker. Not everything in the hard sciences can be defined through pure maths.

>>34945789
>a problem is not solved therefore it is unsolvable

>>34936274
go to sleep Sakura

>>34944539
>Dysfunctions in a self-assembling chunk of meat evolved over billions of years based on what gets its body to reproduce
>Hurr were duh maths

We aren't computers you fucking idiot.

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>>34936274
This is kikes coming to make my guns

>>34936775
Right on brother

>>34946174
>Hydra Cap
Eat a swimming pool of dicks.

>>34943484
Well s/he can try but that probably won't be enough. It seems that its either family or law enforcement that can petition the court for the order. Says nothing about mental health professionals.

>Doc reports you being dangerous to the police
>Police petition the court
>Maybe the order goes out

>>34941761
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>>34942087
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>>34942239
Y'all are fucking retarded.

SHALL

BE

NOT

IMPINGED

>>34936854
>for no reason
Pigs deserve slaughter and so do their lib enablers.

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>>34947967

>falling for the spin

Most states allow for the confiscation of guns from people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

>>34948135
back to leftypol faggot