This is the only gun i have ever used, and it is because i had

>best ak variant
>shit

>>34917694
>best AK variant ever put to production
>shit
You might be a bit spoiled, Finnbro. We pay a massive premium for Valmets in the US for good reason. Our domestically-made AK's all fucking suck. The Rk.62 is fucking god-tier.

>>34917716
>>34917702
That is interesting, sorry my bad choice of words. I have very little knowledge about gun.

So is it reliable, durable, accurate or what?

>>34917694

The best gun ever. I miss my 623359.

>>34917723
are you a jap?

>>34917758

Finnish but i shit in english

>>34917723
Basically all of the above, at least by AK standards. Without getting into weird boutique builds, you can't really do much better with the platform. The Israelis copied the Rk62 for a reason, and the only reason more countries didn't follow suit was because it's rather heavy and expensive compared to a regular AKM.

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>>34917723
Yes to all three.

The Valmet in typical Finnish tradition, shamelessly steals a Russian design, then makes slight but meaningful improvements to the design.

Basically they took an already amazing rifle, then made it slightly better. The only comparable AK variant is the Israeli Galil, which is just a licensed Valmet clone.

>>34917786
Oh, well you fired a very, very nice ak. If I could find a valmet in my area which is what yours is basically, i would!

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can we has ak-like thread guize? :3

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>>34917853

>>34917694
It's the best at what it does. Heavy bullet, perfect for cutting through forest of Finland. Very reliable. Very good in cold weather. Comfortable to hold and to shoot. Easy to use sights and accurate.

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>>34917853

>>34917853
you can't claim everything with a long stroke gas piston is a fucking ak-type, dude.

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>>34917899
>The gas drive and rotating bolt of FNC strongly resembles the AK-47 system, butadapted for more advanced production technologies such as CNC machining and with some modifications. The long stroke gas piston is located above the barrel and is linked to the bolt carrier. Unlike the AK-47, the gas piston rod could be separated from the bolt carrier when gun is disassembled.
Calm your tits, nigger-boy.

>>34917899
FNC bolt/bolt carrier design is heavily inspired by the AK. The manufacturing process, and heavy use of stampings is also very AK like. The designers were attempting to make an improved western AK.

>>34917921
>ywn own a mint 553
;____________;

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>>34917853

I mean yeah it's basically an AK without the biggest detriment of most AKs, Russian manufacturing quality.

Man for your first gun that must have been like sex, I'm seriously jealous

I like mine.

>>34917716
>>34917702
>best AK variant
That's not AK74M

>>34919014
Ak74M is a joke compared to the RK62.

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>>34919028
>Best battle rifle in the world is a joke comparing to range toy
Stay mad pekka
RK62 is shit

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>>34919061
>battle rifle

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S U O M I
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AAMUJA

seems like a good thread to ask.

Which of the finnish ak types are stamped and which are milled?

>>34917723
>So is it reliable, durable, accurate or what?
All that, plus smooth as butter to operate and almost indestructible.

Another Finn-fag here btw. Only after getting to use other AK variants did I realize how much superior the RKs really are when it comes to overall quality.

>>34919915
Practically ALL of them are milled. At least used by military.

>>34919915
76 is stamped, but i nevere saw one during my service.

>>34920531
never*

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What is the best AK clone and why is it the FNC ?

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>>34920592
>What is the best AK clone and why is it the FNC ?

I'm belgian, but sorry, no, that's not true.

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>>34920616
I wish I could afford both...

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>>34920710
>I wish I could afford both...

A nice example of a used FNC Sporter would cost me close to 2000 euros...
I bought a brand new Sig 551 SB for 2100 euros a good while ago.

I've never regretted it.

>>34920531
iirc, 76 was only for the civilian market. All military models are milled.

>>34920771
This.
The tale tells that FDF did test some stamped rifles later on during Cold War, but they broke down in the hands of stupid conscripts in no time.

>>34920592
That's not a fncal.

>>34917702
>best ak variant
That'd be INSAS.

>>34917884
Type 89 is an AR-18.

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>>34917694
It's about the second best AK, pic related, the best AK.

i think it's the best civilian small arm you can get pretty much, but for the military i usually think they should have a lighter gun and caliber, because they have to carry it farther and generally don't need to hunt

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>>34923222
no best AK is AK74M
RK is not even close, not even in top 10
Top 10 would be:
AK74M
AK74N
AK103
AK107
AK105
AK74
AKM
AKSU
AKSU74
AK
now stop producing poor AK copies you fucking fingoloid

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>>34923222
They started to modernize -62 some years back so they're actually better now.

>>34923269
Why are you shitposting?

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>>34923204

is this a bad thing? :3

>>34923282
No. But it's not an AK.

>>34923275
it's not shitpost it's truth now shut the fuck up
AK74M
-better accuracy
-better reliability
-better ergonomics
-better cartridge
-better underbarrel grenade laucher
-better sights
-better for war
-better recoil

>>34923288
ACTUALLY. It's better, sweetie :)))))))))))))))

>>34923317
Why are you still shitposting?

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WHY THE FUCK CAN'T JEW-S-A IMPORT ACTUAL MFG. RUSSIAN AKS! FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

>>34923317
>better accuracy
No
>Better reliability
They're about the same
>Better ergonomics
Subjective, but I disagree
>better cartridge
Not for Finnish purposes (cutting through dense brush)
>Better underbarrel grenade launcher
Probably true
>Better sights
Objectively wrong
>better for war
What did he mean by this?
>better recoil
True, but smaller bullet

Checkmate, vatnik

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>>34923385
Yes 2013 AK74M has better accuracy than any RK
>Objectively wrong
LOLK picrelated
>Better ergonomics
weight less (3,7 RK95 3,5 stamped RK62 with shitty stock and worse geometry 3,6 AK74M with full stock)

>>34923500
just ignore his bitch ass.

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RK 62 with a folding stock is fucking ultimate goat tier.

95 is okay too

>>34923592
too sexy, but stop saying 'goat' that is satanic meme.

>>34917853
"RK General"

>>34917853
i wish the fnc had a charging handle on the left side like a fal

>>34923319
Kill yourself.

>>34917932
POOPOO-66 Type-Poodia 666

Since this seems to be the milled AK thread.

Why hasn't anyone made a milled AK that takes AKM bolt carriers and bolts? The commentary on the C39v2 repeatedly specifies getting a polish milled bolt carrier and bolt in case the stock parts break. Why is this, is it because they're based off a Polish pattern? Why not make a receiver that takes the presumably more common AKM bolt carrier and bolt? Or are my assumptions off and they are actually interchangeable and people are just shilling?

>>34917694
half the magazine springs in the inventory are weak as shit

also the sights wiggle on most of them

>>34917881
ar in 300 blackout would be better

Canadians have winter variant of ar

conscripts might bang them up

>>34918828
>Man for your first gun that must have been like sex, I'm seriously jealous
More like the first time I ever had sex. Sights wiggled and mag springs soft as my 15 year old virgin whiskey dick.

>>34917932
>Open the image
>Look at the ground next to the sling
>POO
>official photo

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best ak or at least best looking

the best ak is an ar cause DI btfo piston

>>34920616
I want a SG550 so fucking bad but I don't want to pay out the ass for a preban fucking Sig USA blew it big time with their 551/552 55whatever gay models. Sell the 550 already you fucks.

>>34924887
jus' get one off le` darknetz`

>>34917694
Finnbro, I wish I could explain to you in detail how much I want a Valmet. I'm even more jealous you fucks will never export the Rk. 95s and we will never import them. Yes, Valmet series rifles are the absolute best as far as AK designs go. I'd even say better than ARs due to their advanced nature before the AR was even conceived.

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>>34923269
>Russia-boos
Ahahahah. Get outta here dude

>>34927587
I want to penetrate Kizuna Ai's vagina with my penis and stroke it inside until I ejaculate, if you know what I mean.

>>34923269
Stop being so butthurt that communist engineering doesn't match western capitalist innovation. In a few decades you'll get there.

>>34917694
That isn't even the gun you used. All FDF RKs are milled.

>>34927571
We don't make them anymore and need all the ones we have in storage, so that's the first problem. I'd also like to point out that RKs made by Valmet are not as high quality as the ones made by Sako, so Valmet isn't the best.

>>34917694
If you don't want it, please mail it to me.

>>34924876
Wat is that and why do I need it so badly?

>>34928817
Its an AEK, and they're unobtainium too.

>>34928817
>never heard of aek
gtfo no guns

>>34928567
T. Someone who works from an ergonomically designed office chair but still has back pain for some reason.

>>34928970
Considering that almost no one can obtain AEKs, it really isn't abnormal for no one to know about it.

>>34928982
What the fuck? Well that was a reply to the entirely wrong thread. IM A PHONE POSTER EVERYBODY, LOOK HOW RETARDED I AM!

>>34928990
At least you admit it friendo

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>>34928987
you could, but it would illegal...
>also; tfw no ak12

>>34929007
Well, you could make the cosmetic changes but good luck trying to get the proper operation since it has that counter balance.

>>34929053
don't worry i am sure if the US does not collapse and the ((commies)) are buried in mass graves, maybe we can peacefully repeal NFA, and other draconian laws.

>>34923274
That looks like some career officer's mallninja customisation more than anything our gunsmiths would come up with

>>34929066
It'd be nice. I really want my Sako Rk. 95, totally not because of Upotte!! because that'd be s-silly

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>>34929070

Combining a design from the 60's with modern day is hard. But it works

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Over engineered and a rifle with too much quality parts put into it. Literally works as a DMR rifle with a good scope. Finland needs some grunt rifles for their soldiers, the RK variants are "too good"

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>>34929071
this nigga gets it

>>34929106
You ain't got any idea how long I've been building up my Sako folder. She ain't a bad girl.

>>34924645
this is not the appropriate place to be asking such a question

>>34924645
i am pretty sure they would too damn expensive

>>34924645
Uhhhh, this is a Valmet thread. Thats a question to be asking in /akg/ man.

>>34929090
>Finland needs some grunt rifles for their soldiers
That's why we have hundreds of thousands of Chinese Type-56 and East German MPi-KMS for wartime issue.

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>>34929106
>5.56x39mm

>>34929789
>hundreds of thousands of Chinese Type-56 and East German MPi-KMS for wartime issue.
China shits are most likely no longer in serviceable condition & the East-German rifles seem to be earmarked for armoured vehicle crews as they are the guys using them in training.

Apparently in Finland someone is selling the civilian model of the rk95 for 2k and also includes a suppressor and six magazines and the pouches you see there. Also a thing for mounting optics.

https://www.nettiaseet.fi/myydaan/luvanvaraiset-aseet-kivaarit-7-62x39/sako-92s-iitti-kymenlaakso/992

Neat.

>>34933922
2100€, last updated in 2015, failry certain it has already been sold & the seller just hasn't removed the sales ad, that's ridiculously low price for all that

>>34934222
it's really is not.
I will hate myself forever for not biting the bullet on a 480€ Arsenal SAR-1 deal that came with two different stocks & pistol grips, some optic sight, bipod, tons of mags of different sizes, cleaning kit, carry bag, etc, just couple years ago.

Yeah, the prices CAN be quite "low" in Winland at best. I ended up grabbing a 350€ Norinco AKM with a screw-on 7x scope later on, after having lots of Sako M92 and Valmet M62 rifles offered to me for 1500-2000 € . Which was a bit too much for a poorfag University student at the time.

>>34934290
I have never seen any Rk variant go for under 2k so 2100€ for a 92S in a good condition & with all that extra stuff *is* ridiculously low

also comparing Rks to Norincos? Might as well say a Garand for $500 isn't low because you can find a Mosin for $200...

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>>34934329
Like said, I could've gotten one for 1500 eurobux in 2015, but that would've left me homeless at the time.

In case you didn't know, Norincos are quite sought after in the States, and are considered fine guns. A bit rough, I give you that, but they work. I ended up choosing mine over an RK for couple other reasons too: chromelined barrel, and the bit wider barrel diameter. Both which make shooting Soviet steel surplus ammo a non-issue, but could potentially "weld shut" an RK.

>>34934416
sought after in the States? Probably has more to do with import bans than anything else, every reservist I have talked with about Norincos has said the same: inconsistent quality, multiple cases of two groupings, only good for plinking with friends using shitty Russian ammo etc....

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>>34934474
the build quality also does BTFO some of the modern western-shit AKs. Can't comment on other people's rifles, but mine has had zero issues, and especially with a red-dot sight it's easy to pop those shotgun clay targets from even 50+ meters.

>only good for plinking with friends using shitty Russian ammo etc....
that's the best thing about it really.
A cheap blinker in respectable caliber, with all the manliness people relate to the "AK-47". And assuming ya get a fine piece (like I apparently did), it makes a-OK battle rifle too.

>>34934416
if your Norinco is good, good, it's just that I have been told by several people that buying even a new Norinco is always a toss-up between an ok rifle & "maanantaikappale", personally I wouldn't take the chance...

>>34934516
I guess if you have the money to spare a few hundred for a plinking AK, I for one would be buying a rifle for SRA

>>34934605
it has worked just fine for that too.
But practically anyone "serious" about SRA gets a custom AR15 these days.

>>34934635
>But practically anyone "serious" about SRA gets a custom AR15 these days.
so I have heard, but just because everyone else is blowing thousands on ARs doesn't mean I have to do the same, IMO an Arsenal with a telescopic stock and a red-dot on a dust cover equipped with picatinny rail should do just fine

>>34934719
That's what I thought, until I started seeing SRA scores, with the best ranking 7.62x39 shooter ranking 30-something'th by average.

Personally, as long as my blinker can hit a steel plate the size of a man's torso from 100-150 meters, with the irons only, I'm happy.

>>34934798
>That's what I thought, until I started seeing SRA scores, with the best ranking 7.62x39 shooter ranking 30-something'th by average.
sounds perfect, if I had a hevaily customised sub-MOA AR-15 I'd be under pressure to practice to become able to achieve sub-MOA -groupings & that would take most if not all of the fun out of the whole thing for me, I could always get a sub-MOA rifle later & until then compete with a "good enough" rifle & based on what I have heard a Norinco is too much of a gamble for me

>>34917694
Fuck that gun looks hot. Goddamn I never really thought about it before. It's exactly what I picture when someone says to imagine a gun.

>>34934798
>That's what I thought, until I started seeing SRA scores, with the best ranking 7.62x39 shooter ranking 30-something'th by average.
Most likely the people who are in the top are there because they practice the most, not because they are using ARs. But if you're that serious about it, you might as well buy an AR.

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>>34924887
agree