Would everyone who called this rifle vaporware please come t

>>34912763
>>34912763
>.308
into the trash it goes

>>34912763
>small quantities
>backorders
>still hitting shelves
>limited selection of some dealers

W E W

E

W

>>34912763
>doesn't pass tab check
Hard pass.

>>34912763
>buy new gun
>get T&E gun with thousands of rounds through it

What a joke.

>>34912763
Until I can avoid being on a wait list, no.

>tfb

>>34912975
>tab check
What is this

>>34912930

Typical mormon mafia shit

I'll give it 6 months of out of stocks, back orders and lack of inventory on dealers shelves before anything is proven. When I see more than a single price gouged MDR in stock in person I'll congratulate them.

>>34913631
Whether a firearm or piece of gear is used by SOF or not.

wow it only took a fucking century, I sure am eating crow

>>34912893
.308 is a man´s caliber you faggot.

>>34912763
That's not the same gun as they originally intended to release. The dust cover isn't latched onto the gun anymore meaning it could fall off and get lost (it comes off very easily) and you have to remove the handguard now to adjust the gas. Way higher than their original price point too.

>>34915081
Agreed, but I'm skeptical of the wisdom of a 16" barrel.

>>34915081
>macho bullshit
Not an argument

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>>34914608

>>34915170
Not him, but may I ask why?
I would understand if it's simply because it's a bullpup. At that length why not have 18" or 20" like a RFB.

As for ballistics, 16" has worked for the scar 17s forever, and through some waffle magic, 13" seems to work for the issued ones

>>34915141
What was the original price and what are they now selling it at?

>>34916138
>As of January 4, 2017 the new pricing is:
>d. MDR 7.62 is $2,525
>e. MDR 5.56 is $2,275

https://deserttech.com/blog/mdr-update-january-1-2017/

It was a jump of like $400 IIRC

>>34916138
>>34916176
I found an article dated Dec 2015 that lists the price as 1,999 for the 5.56 and 2,249 for the .308

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/desert-tech-releases-prices-on-mdr-bullpup/

>>34916176
so it is 10% higher, now that it is being made almost 2yrs later than that article. I can see that 5% increase yr over yr from parts vendors being more expensive and addtl r&d and them wanting to make a lil more per rifle.

Even though I already have a 17s I'd be inclined to get an MDR if it came in 22" 6.5cm as well as 556 and 308. I'm planning on getting a 6.5cm bbl to upgrade from 308 for PRS shooting and if I could choose between either my aiat or a gas gun depending on the comp conditions for the day it'd be nice to have the option. assuming the mdr will be accurate enough for that role.

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>>34916176
>$2,525 or probably more because taxes and various nickel and dimeing
>When there there are many FALs and PTRs to be had.
>RFBs for over $1,000 cheaper for bullpup people.
>Even SCARs can be found for less if you look hard enough.
Life must be real suffering for anyone who wants an MDR. I'll stick with my poverty blaster.

>>34915217
Ok here's an argument
308 is better in every single way over 5.56 other than weight and recoil. Which manly men are best equipped to deal with, which is why manlets will fanboy over 5.56 to the point of exhaustion, to justify their physical inferiority. I would tell you to suck my dick, but I know my massive masculine penis is far too large to fit considering your tiny, feminine jawline.

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>>34916954
Stop blaming your economic status.
The only thing holding you back from glorious spacegattery is yourself anon.

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>>34918451
Less retarded example

>>34916176
So for $300-500 more, I can just get a SCAR17?
Or did scar 308 prices go up again?

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>>34912763
Still vapeware. Try again next year.

>>34918436
>>34915217
Rekt

>>34915170
me too but i bought one anyway and I'm getting a 19 inch as soon as the release one cause easily interchangeable barrels and modularity

In b4 even the HMG StG and the Hudson 9 beat them to the punch

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>>34912763
>ywn get a benis suppressor without a tax stamp

>>34918436
Manlets tend to build actually mooscle mass easier, and quicker; if you're a weak manlet, you're fucking living trash.

Its the fucking 6'5" lanky as fuck guys who can't do get shit done, they can't build muscles for shit, and their bones break at the slightest breeze; a stumpy 6'5" is bretty beasty, but they gotta keep up their muscles up sometimes, while the manlets just need to move, and eat a lot.

Why does the stock have ridge lines from additive manufacture?
It looks like some some used a noncommercial 3d printer and couldn't be assed to vapor bath.

Anyways, would getting the Keltec on a labor day sale/labor day period be a good plan?
I want a .308 and a bullpup.

>>34912763

>Paying 2k+ for a generic memepup

>eating crow
This is the cringiest expression in the English language.

>>34912763
>I've got some crow for you to eat.
AFAIK people used to do that in Prussia.

What sort of system does the MDR use? Is it a DI, Gas-Piston? Roller Delayed blowback? Does it have a Roller bolt, or flapper locking?

>>34919211
>KelTec
Rumor is they will be making a .308 version of their RDB. Chances are the RFB will be discontinued. The newer RFB's are supposed to be good, and you can identify them as they come with thermold (yes I know) FAL mags.

>>34918436
>Ok here's an argument
This should be good. Watching meatheads scratch their thick monkey craniums and try to think is always entertaining.

>308 is better in every single way over 5.56 other than weight and recoil.
So it's better in every way except for the things that matter most in modern warfare? Pretty shit argument so far desu. Also you forgot bulk. And flat trajectory. .308 has a longer range overall, but 5.56 has a longer point-blank range. Which means less training, which means more cheaper soldiers quicker. Light recoil contributes to this as well. In a real war, most recruits aren't gonna be gun guys. It's beneficial to have a weapon that they can be quickly trained on without developing bad habits like flinching and pulling shots.

>Which manly men are best equipped to deal with
This is the same retarded argument weebs make to justify characters using retard-hueg swords.

Guess what dick-for-brains: in the real world being stronger actually makes lighter weight gear MORE effective, because you can move even faster for even longer without getting tired, or you can carry even more ammunition. In modern war, mobility and ammunition capacity beat out the raw power of individual rounds. Most rifle fire is suppressing or covering fire anyways. Artillery, airstrikes and grenades do the majority of the actual killing.

And that was the only part that was an argument. Though I think you should talk to your shrink about that penis fixation of yours, that can't be healthy.

>>34919049
t. 12-yearold

>>34916954
You are vastly over simplifying end user desires. Every gun you listed has its own draw. The only bullpup is the KT and it's build quality reflects the price. The MDR is to the KT as the SCAR is to the G3/FAL

>>34921113
>The MDR is to the KT as the SCAR is to the G3/FAL
Which is why I'm waiting for the AR-10 of .308 bullpups: a gun that's better than the cheapo low end, but instead overpriced, overhyped and for faggots like the SCAR.

>>34921199
>instead
*Isn't

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oh boy, yet another overhyped, overpriced bullpup meme gun.

Oh boy, it's a bullpup but apparently the trigger isn't complete shit. That's definitely something I need to shell out 2500$ for.

>>34912930
Yeah, it took about 1 year from the "release date" for Lel Kek RDBs to come to market in any respectable numbers. We're getting them now pretty frequently for $900 all day though

>>34918907
That isn't the MDR... that's the SRS...

>>34920660
Should I wait for this?
I'm not understanding the difference/reason

>>34920660
>Rumor is they will be making a .308 version of their RDB
That thing is going to have a length of pull so long you'll need to dislocate your arm to shoulder it.

Another reason .308 is pathetic and retarded for anything but DMRs and MGs.

>>34922247
you sound like a fag

>>34921316
The difference is, at least ONE real, existing, and functional lelkek RDB left the warehouse on the "release date".

Same can't be said for the MDR.

>>34916176
So basically if i'm hard set on a bullpup, I should just get a kel-tec rdb?

>>34922277
But I'm not advocating for .308, the round for overcompensating faggots with tiny cocks :^)

>>34922334
Watch Based Ian's video on it. It's probably the best of the current gen bullpups all things considered.

>>34921316
Really? The only rdb I've ever seen is at a lgs but they will only sell it to a leo for some reason. No one I asked at the shop could tell me why. I think they just want to be able to keep it up on the wall.

>>34915478
A bullet is only being accelerated while it is in the barrel of the rifle, after it leaves the muzzle the hot gas behind it escapes and its velocity and KE can only decrease.

A shorter barrel prematurely ends the bullets acceleration and reduces muzzle velocity. Obviously there are diminishing returns with ever longer barrels and past a certain point bullet-to-barrel friction start to reduce the muzzle velocity. .308 has respectable amount of powder and is thus rated with 24" barrels. I have a carbine with a 20" barrel, and that costs me about 100fps which isn't too bad. But if you cut it down to 16" you're starting waste much of the cartridge's energy as muzzle flash.

>>34919173
Visible muscle because they are small. A lanky 6'1 is still 4 feet taller and 100 more pounds of raw muscle than a 5'9" bodybuilder

>>34921199
K&M m17S308

>>34912763
There won't be any new shipments until October. They're tinkering with the design a bit.

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>>34922860
>merican edumacation

>>34923390
Don't blame one retard on the rest of us you yuropoor faggot

>>34914608
>larping this hard

>>34922247
>a length of pull so long you'll need to dislocate your arm to shoulder it.
manlet detected

>>34920919
>the things that matter most in modern warfare?

Weight and recoinl matters most than a biger hole in your enemy.
So, should be adopt .22`s? is lighter and has an even softer recoil for your delicate shoulders...

>>34927082
>this fallacy again

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>>34927082
we adopted .22 like 50 years ago, dude

>>34912763
Bad timing desu. Five years of delays and now they are releasing into one of the worst gun buying markets in recent memory.

>>34912763
>>34912893
If they made this in 6.5 Creedmoor and .300 BLK only, I would have cared. 5.56mm and .308 win are last century calibers.