/meg/ - Military Enlistment General

Are the British Paratroopers worth joining?

I'm going into the RAF but having last minute indecisiveness.

I want something with hardship. Not an admin desk job.

Are the Marines a Meme Branch?

is being a combat medic a bad decision

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How does the military change how you act as a person when out in the civilian world?

>>34846292
Sure why not

>>34846449
That depends on how you decide to act once you leave the military.

>>34846292
Join the Marines if actually want to do anything cool

>>34846399
Not if you have aspirations to be a combat medic.

>>34846580
Painting rocks and running more than track athletes isn't cool

>>34846292
Every branch is a meme branch.

>>34846592
>running isn't cool
fatbody detected

>>34846580
That's a dumb statement.

>>34846592
And this is also a dumb statement.

There's "cool" shit to do in every branch.

>>34846292
Join the Marines if you want to drown in cheap Jap pussy

>>34846449
Read the novel "Born On The Fourth Of July." that'll answer most of your questions.

>>34846686
I never read the book but jesus christ that movie is depressing.

>>34846686
What if I'm not going infantry?

>>34846712
it was good until it went full propaganda mode at the end
>RNC BAD!
>DNC GOOD!

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So, apparently gastroesophageal reflux disorder (GERD) disqualifies me from enlisting. Is it possible to get a waiver if literally any over-the-counter antacid fixes it if it happens? I have a prescription antacid that I take every night and I haven't had any issues with GERD in years.

I was looking at the Air Force or Navy, preferring Navy.

>>34846877
Not what I meant at all. Just saying it was sad man.

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Anyone here actually regret anything about their military service? Be it the branch you chose, job you chose, anything like that?

On topic of scoliosis, mine causes a bit of numb/tingle sensation below my right scapula, mostly when sitting for long periods of time. Any chance that could develop into something worse in military contexts? Like am I gonna suddenly be paralyzed on a hump? Srs, I haven't asked medical professionals because I didn't want a negative symptom documented anywhere, but it is documented otherwise as benign with a bit of back pain when I was younger.

Question from the very end of last thread about scoliosis
>will they test to get the specific degree at MEPS or can i just be like "yeah i hardly know i have it" if they question me about it

Does anyone by chance know how much importance is placed on letters of recommendation with review boards? I've got letters from a couple officers and congressmen and I'm really hoping these will carry a good bit of weight with my packet, as I'm going to need them to pad my shit GPA.

>>34847416
You dont know you have it. You dont know you have it. You dont know you have it.
>>34847393
You dont know you have it. You dont know you have it. You dont know you have it.
Also if it gets worse good. Now its the militaries fault and you get disability.
>>34847156
Do you mean specifically military related or the whole experience?

>>34847486
>Do you mean specifically military related or the whole experience?

Either-or. Any big fuck-ups you made that you would advise against?

>>34847495
Oh not in the military. My experience was actually very good. Couldnt have asked for much more. Couple very minor things but I actually lucked out overall. Choose the right job and get stationed somewhere nice and the rest will probably take care of itself.

>>34847590
Which branch and job?

>>34846292
join the marines if you want to be homeless as fuck when you get out.

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>>34847156
It sucks that I can't go around being the degenerate I am on the inside or I'll lose my job and any chance of having any other government job in any NATO country ever again, but I've liked my time in the RCN Reserve (yeah yeah i know) so far.

If I had any other job, I'd probably be a lot more free and loose with what I say and do and who I consort with.

As for actual real regrets, I guess I should schmooze more. I'm apparently likeable in person, but I have a hard time keeping up relationships with people I don't see regularly and naturally (like coworkers or schoolmates or people on the same game servers I like or w/e). Like, what am I gonna do, send love letters by DND internet to old yeomen I've had, and try to chat up engineers at PCTU about trying to incinerate trash on my apartment balcony?

>>34847393
Nigga you are stupid. Forget any legal stuff, they're just gonna kick you out and that's it. But do you really want a physical job like that when you're gonna be in pain all the time?

Even if you fit some autismal set of numbered requirements to not technically be unfit for service, if you're always at the back of the platoon wheezing in pain because your back is out again, they're going to tell you to go home and become a family man.

>>34847610
I'm willing to bet at least half of the homeless people in America today lie about military service in a bid to gain sympathy.

>>34847610
According to the Brookings Institute, you are 98% likely to end up in the middle class if you:
1. Finish high school
2. Get a job
3. Don't have children out of wedlock

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/

For funsies, let's just tack on two more:
4. Don't get addicted to drugs or alcohol
5. Don't make extravagant purchases with money you don't have.

>>34847657
Middle class is loser tier though. If you have to work instead of managing assets you have fucked up.

>>34847674
The point is that it takes an extremely special kind of stupid to fuck up that poorly and end up in poverty. I'd take being a wage slave with a roof over my head over living on the street any day of the week.

>>34847599
Navy, was an OS. I post here a lot. Was stationed in San Diego on 2 cruisers.

>>34847486
I mean I won't bring it up unless they say something but I believe there's medical record of it

>>34847706
As a Sailor, how do you feel about Marines and the Marine Corps in general?

>>34847706
On a scale of nigger to alcoholism, how OS were you?

>>34847722
Not that guy. But I'm ex navy and they're pretty much all nigger status.

>>34847156
I regret nothing, joining was the best choice I've ever made

Has anyone done the WOFT program? What are the chances of being able to pick your duty station? I'm in community college right now, but I'm not sure if I want to stick it out for another 3 years to get a proper commission.

>>34847722
marines arent on cruisers so i had exactly zero interaction with them. Dont have any feelings but everyone knows theyre arguably the worst branch.
>>34847739
White but being in a div with niggers has benefits so i cant complain. I easily had the best and most fun division on the ship hands down. As far as alcoholism everyone pretty munch drank all the time on the whole ship.

>>34847769
Same situation here what heli would you prefer to fly?

>>34847800
Obv needs of the army etc etc, but I'd like to go AH-6 or blackhawks. The little bird with big guns looks like it would be fun, while being a medevac pilot seems like it would be very fulfilling.

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>>34846927
Help me please

>>34847788
>Dont have any feelings but everyone knows theyre arguably the worst branch.
even canada hates marines

and we dont even have a marine branch

we'll share beers with infantry of any nation's force, though we'll make jokes at their expense and caution that if anyone's gonna start a bar fight or do other foulness it'll be an infantryman, but holy shit, marines, ive never heard anything good about them

>>34846927
>>34848043
You dont know you have it.
You dont know you have it.
You dont know you have it.

>>34848106
Am I required to show my medical records? Or do I really just lie? I don't think that would go smoothly in the long run, correct me if I'm wrong.

>>34848043
>>34846927
if its bad enough that most foods make you feel bad, then you dont want to join. you wont always have access to antacids.

granted, in the navy or air, you can just buy a lot of them and ration them out for yourself, and here in canada ships' doctors/baby docs straight up just fill a cubby hole with antacids (technically "anti-flatulants" but idk theyre literally just off-brand Tums) for free taking

BUT STILL

dont take a job where youre likely to hurt yourself unduly

that said if you really do just need tums after eating or your tummy will hurt slightly but not bad enough that you cant do your job, yeah, go for it. the recruiter will probably just ask if you are prescribed anything for it, then you say no, and they just dont check that box and you continue the process and just avoid spicy foods throughout your career like you do now normally anyway.

idk about the us, but i feel like theyre less stringent than canada in general. and in canada, the only medical issue that stops you from serving is anything that requires lifesaving medicine to treat. so, you can have back problems, but if you just cant lift more than some amount, whatever, become a clerk. but if you're allergic to peanuts, get out, because we can't guarantee access to epipens. your case is in the middle, and requires some introspection on your part and some medical evaluation on theirs

can you do your job after eating bad? will antacids fix it every time? if you dont get antacids, will you be unable to work?

srsly if its just "i feel like puking after eating spicy food" then just dont eat spicy food while on a ship or base. but if you get debilitating cramps and vomit after eating a carrot, maybe you should rethink your career choice

>>34848106
t. neverserved, prolly cuz hes a fat shit who failed some test or another

>>34848177
>t. neverserved
Youre an idiot and clearly the one who hasnt.
>>34848130
>Am I required to show my medical records?
You dont have any medical records.
End of story.
We keep having to explain to you people. There is no giant medical database. They wont know shit unless you tell them.

>There is no giant medical database.
this is actually true, "medical records" are basically only held by your GP and it's your responsibility to get them forwarded to any new doctor you get

and even then unless you have some very exotic disorders, the extent of your record will basically be "got prescribed [thing] for [condition]; his last checkup had [whatever numbers for whatever mundane statistics]" and even then unless it requires further tests or prescriptions to fix something it's unlikely to be recorded at all.

but still,
>>34848200
you strike me as a hugely paranoid faggot, which tells me you either got scared out of joining, or fucked up the joining process in some way. joining just about any force on earth is trivially easy, and every force on earth is desperate for new members. (even if funding's low, having new members means a reason to beg for more funding.)

even the secret squirrels don't look particularly hard into your history. about all they do is call the local police wherever you came from, check if there's any warrants out for you, check if you're an expat or refugee or whatever the fuck from somewhere suspect, and call it a day if it all comes up clean.

even the comms school I went to, for all its EMSEC policies, had normal windows for rooms that handled Secret and higher content, and its crypto trainers are in a normal building with normal key locks like you find on any other normal door.

>>34848268
>you strike me as a hugely paranoid faggot
I dont strike you as anything cause ive only typed 2 sentences so calm down fedora lord
>which tells me you either got scared out of joining, or fucked up the joining process in some way
Not even close. Im the OS2 from above. Already joined and left with no medical problems whatsoever.

Everything else you typed has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about. Im telling him to lie because every single meg thread theres a handful of people talking about how they need to get waivers for some small thing they shouldnt have mentioned and its taking forever or how they straight up got denied entry. There is no war right now so they can afford to be picky. Its far better just to lie and stream line the process. I dont care at all about what you have to say so you might as well not even reply.

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>>34848295
>Im the OS2 from above.
Literally who? All I see is
>>34848200
>>34848106
>>34847486
which is clearly all you, and clearly all probably schizophrenic or something

>>34846256

Your daily reminder that BRS is a better system for the vast majority of servicemembers.

>>34847156

>Should've joined sooner.

>Should've held out for the job I wanted instead of switching over to it later.

>Should've worried less about IET. IET is dumb and does not matter.

>>34847156
Getting a star card. Holy shit. Dug myself out and it's a good way to build credit as a fresh faced 17 yo, but holy shit don't go hog wild with it. Also regret not throwing more towards savings each month

>>34847848
You can try with ASK, though I'm not sure o or wo grades have the same flexibility. Bug your hrc guys to try to go where you want

>>34848130
It's not a lie if it's an omission. As long as it doesn't get bad, wait till your training school after boot and get your meds

So I was told last thread to lie on MEPS over a short prescription on Anti-Depressants and was reassured I wouldn't go to jail.

But if the job I want has a clearance of some level I feel that almost assures that they'd find out aboit everything that ever happened to me.

How likely are you to get waived if you gather all the documents saying you're fine and didn't need what you were given?

Anyone else have experience with waivers connected to mental health, I'd ask a recruiter but obviously that'd be a red flag to them.

>>34848200
>>34848268

Never mind my thing, these guys seem to have answered me I think.

>>34848997

These threads are always really useful.

>>34849047
If you need TS or SCI clearance then there is a high chance they'll dig that shit up. People with decade long careers have been canned for things as little as not mentioning going to see a therapist.

>>34849117
t. neverserved

the secret squirrels only care about shit that can be used against you, and even then, it has to be something major like real debts or political issues or whatever

jacking it to cuck porn or having a bad back from a moving job is not just hard to find in records, but it's also trivial to your job or ability to be exploited. what are the russians gonna do, say "if you dont give us the codes, we'll make you lift this heavy box!"?

something like "not mentioning going to see a therapist" would get you canned because you're hiding a current and pressing issue that could affect your work from your employer.

if your back is bad, you shouldnt join in the first place and will likely be weeded out during basic for having genuine health issues, but if its not THAT bad and you can still work, it should be fine.

>>34849117
>>34849149

My predicament that happened (being sad for a year so my family and Doctor thought I needed meds) does not effect my life, I'm in college on the verge of graduation and would like to serve.

So I know it will never impede me, but I don't want it to bite me in the ass.

>>34849149
Someone correct me if im wrong, but with higher level clearances they're looking more closely at factors of trust, which is why they won't hesitate to can people for minor omissions like therapy.

Looking at job requirements for the Army. Was curious as to why they hate the Peace Corps so much.

>>34849192
>and would like to serve
it is overrated and youre better off getting a real job

>>34849216
i do not believe that anon for a second that he's ever seen any such thing first-hand, but they can can you, clearance or not, for not telling your chain of command that you're having some problem or another.

though usually, the first step will be "hey, anon, are you having problems? you CAN talk to us, you know."

but if you're doing something particularly heinous or are doing the same thing over and over, then that sort of thing can lead to administrative and eventually outright punitive action.

a good example is alcohol or drug abuse, or frequent stealing. the first time, it's like, okay, what's going on, this is a stressful job for people who come from stessful lives, we understand, let's get the nigga some help. second, third, fourth time, okay, enough is enough, this man is just a nigger, fuck him.

or if its really heinous, they might just skip straight to canning and charging you, like if they find CP on you, or you beat your wife up, or some shit like that.

Are British Army paratroopers worth doing from 18 to 21?

>>34849149

>if you dont give us the codes, we'll make you lift this heavy box

Kek, good one anon

>>34849232
Real jobs with the degree I have are also overrated.

It's a combination of me being the only fairly patriotic person I know in a liberal cess poll, and a "You only live once" thing.

Try and get a hard to get and cool sounding military job for the better part of a decade, have old degree, look good on paper if I decide to do other things.

>>34849149
What branch and job did you have?
That you know so much about how the spooks pick folk?

>>34849258
the military pays less than anything else you could do with a degree, and has vastly worse conditions and benefits. the literal only boon is that you can then say "I served", which will make a significant portion of everyone you will ever meet ever again (and probably a nonzero portion of those people you have met) hate you irrationally and forever just because of that.

it's not a bad job for unskilled workers, or people in times of need, or people who just dont have a lot going on otherwise

but you can almost definitely do better if you are about to get a degree and are in an okay place in life

in fact, the military will probably make you a WORSE person, as you're exposed to all manner of foul and uncouth people who'll make you also foul and uncouth, and your skills will perish as you are made to do things well beneath your skill and education level

>>34849277
My degree is gonna be in Computer Information Systems with a history minor from a Liberal Arts School, when I was young and retarded I figured that's just what they called Computer Science where I went. I was horribly wrong.

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>>34848997
>>34849117
>>34849149
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>>34849338
Well fuck.

Thanks Anon

>>34849268
canadian naval communicator

you have to be able to get LvIII or they forcibly remuster you. they also basically tell you to your face that they really dont care about your personal life as long as it cant be used against you or doesnt reflect badly on the forces. even at briefings basically along the lines of "please dont solicit sex from weird dommes cuz it looks bad and can be used against you", it's more "please be careful if you solicid weird dommes because the CBC and /pol/ might make fun of us about it" and not "please don't do it at all because the terrorists are always watching and will use it against you to wring you out for card keys and weapon manuals"

also at least lv II is trivially easy to get and almost everyone gets it anyway, basically just dont be a felon and you can get it. the trick is that a clearance doesnt grant you access to everything of that level, it's still all need-to-know no matter what

in general, they only revoke your clearance if you have repeated comsec violations or are convicted of a crime. they also dont look for things like being into weird stuff or having seen a therapist or whatever, it really is stuff like being literally a criminal or having major debts that they give a shit about. having some depression is meaningless to the spies, they can't get secrets out of a depressed person any easier than out of a happy person. same for threatening to expose your weird fetishes, like, if you're not ashamed of them, whatever, it makes the CF look bad if it does get out but it's probably not worth risking selling off fresh codebooks to keep secret that you're into MLP porn. even being an alcoholic is sorta a borderline case that'd require context.

but if you're addicted to something hard, that's an expensive and needy habit that could end in you selling secrets for a fix. likewise if you've diddled a child this decade, a copy of Secret Manual #42069 could be worth staying off the sex offender registry to you.

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quick question from an outsider: why do people get deployed overseas for being with a state national guard? I thought the whole point of the national guard was to ya know guard the nation which is kinda hard to do when you're across the world

>>34849362
>>34849338
>>34849268
>>34849216
>>34849149
basically, a minor health issue that does not require lifesaving medication is DEFINITELY not going to interefere with getting a security clearance, and should not interfere with the joining process either

but you probably shouldnt join if your health is in question at all, because do you really wanna work in the military if your back is constantly going to ache?

>>34849373
also to expand more: even if you do require lifesaving medication, you can still get a clearance. oh no, you'll die if you eat peanuts, or need an inhaler sometimes or you'll seize up. that doesnt exactly make you vulnerable to leaking sensitive info.

if you want, theres tons of nice old ladies who are civilian contractors working as sensitive material custodians. you are free to join their ranks. they get nice comfy chairs and air conditioned offices next to giant cool vaults

>>34849362
Wow Canada is chill as fuck.

Thought your service was hell to get into because of downsizing.

>>34849277
You are either a kid still in high school or college or someone who went straight into the military after high school.

90% of the time, even with a marketable degree, you get treated like complete shit with low wages and shit benefits out of college.It is common to be fired and replaced with a new graduate when you are up for a promotion or raise. It happened to me and it's happened to friends.

The wages and benefits you get in the military, even as enlisted, dwarf those in civilian life unless you become a wealthy entrepreneur. More things matter than your salary figure. Wait until you have a baby and the military 100% covers it while it would drain your savings in civilian life.

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>>34849510
actually right now theres fucking tons of money. new boats, training budgets are huge, new aircraft, it's better than ever. the year i did basic i got a free ride back to town because someone from my unit was literally picking up a fursuit for recruiting

actually, the last big budget cut to the military was during CONSERVATIVE rule, and while trudeau jr hasnt really said much about military spending he seems very happy about deploying the CF to these constant fucking natural disasters that are happening because muh climate change or whatever the shit keeps making the west burst into flame and the east flood every time it rains

It seems chill, but I like to liken Canadian government as a whole to the Administratum from 40k, at the risk of being a nerd; the wheels of administration turn slowly but surely, and grind all that get in their way. But on the other hand the administration is so fucking unwieldy that nothing ever really changes for the worse simply because it's so hard to change anything at all. likewise, it's generally not worth it to fuck with people on an administrative level because it's a big rigamarole that could be solved by just telling the person to their face to stop fucking around.

But if you are doing something bad enough to warrant administrative action, holy shit, you will literally never have a job again, you will lose your military pension and your normal gubment pension, and military prison here is some real fucked up shit and we don't even have a double jeopardy clause so you'll probably just go to federal prison right after leaving military prison, and you could get charged multiple times by multiple units for the same single act too, I saw that happen to a guy for going AWOL for one day on a trades course. he got charged by both the school and his home unit, ended up having to pay like two grand or something

>>34849759
Kinda wish the US Gov was more like that to some extent.

How do TS/SS clearance jobs work? Do you have to sign a contract to get in and test for one, so if you fail you get kicked into grunt work?

>>34849277

Fun fact: in most degree fields the military actually has way better compensation than civilian jobs.

People immediately think of CompSci, law, finance, and business degrees... but forget that *most* fields requiring degrees max out in the 60k-80k range.

I was getting better compensation than that as a 23 year old E-5, and that's without counting the value of the pension, or the fact that I had way more vacation than the average professional.

>>34849372

Most states cannot afford to train their local militia, so you join the no shit military to get training and the federal government helps fund your service. That means you're obligated to carry out national mission when called upon.

Some states DO have a state-only guard that takes no money from the federal government and only has to do state stuff... but they're basically unpaid adult boyscouts because ain't nobody got money for that.

Say you don't get the score you need to qualify for your MOS of choice on the ASVAB, what do? Can you just say "no I don't want to do this anymore"?

>>34850134

They prescreen you before you join if you have a job that needs one. Most people who are good to go on the prescreen end up getting their clearances. It's very rare to get kicked to another job, even in jobs requiring a polygraph.

>>34850234

Yes. Until you ship you are under 0 legal obligation.

>>34849387
How do I do this, sounds cozy

I recently graduated college with a pretty useless degree because I honestly wanted to spend 4 years partying, and that's what I did, but I've always wanted to serve. I think I can handle SOF training, but would it be better to go to OCS or enlist and try my luck at getting into the CCT pipeline

>>34850417

USAJobs and agency websites. NSA/NGA/DIA recently partnered up and share a recruiting website now at intelligencecareers.gov

>>34850515
OCS is easy to get into but incredibly time consuming, plan on 1-2 years. It becomes competitive with a shit GPA and sordid background, and your chance of passing OCS drops dramatically if you choose Marines over Army. I know the USAF won't even board you if you aren't super competitive and can't speak to Navy because I'm not familiar. It's a wiser choice financially but that's about it.

SOF never really a good option, unless you are a glutton for punishment and the self satisfaction is worth the sacrifice. Also consider the odds for failure, despite how good you may believe you are.

Mind if I ask, what is degree in and what is GPA? Did you do any hard drugs in college?

>>34850556
>OCS is easy to get into
Why do I keep seeing conflicting comments on this? Was it harder to get into 2 years ago or something?

Also why should it take 1-2 years? I thought the course only lasted 18 weeks (at least for Army)?

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>>34845984
Ok, here's my dilemma:

I'm a school teacher; I want to join the National Guard as a Combat Engineer. Fine. But I'd like to get an Airborne contract if I could. The problem is, my summer break is only just long enough to contain Basic/Engie training. Is there an option that would allow me to take Airborne training at a later date?

>>34850691
>Why do I keep seeing conflicting comments on this? Was it harder to get into 2 years ago or something?

Yes, it changes with the political climate. Obama butchered the military, Trump issued a mandate to build the size of the standing military. In 2013, it was impossible with the federal sequester. Simple as that really.

>Also why should it take 1-2 years? I thought the course only lasted 18 weeks (at least for Army)?

Takes time to build a packet, firstly. It can take quite some time to get three good letters of rec among the other documents you need.

Usually 2-3 months between packet submission and boards.

Usually 6-9 months between selection and ship date.

This is assuming no problems and you not needing any waivers. If you did hard drugs and cop to them, waivers. If you had any surgeries, waivers (usually). Everything adds up.

>>34850705
>Is there an option that would allow me to take Airborne training at a later date?

There is an option that they have to hold your job for 5 years under Federal law. Don't try to plan your military career around your civilian one because it will never work.

>>34850734
I started in July and already have most of my letters in - just waiting on a few more and I'll have a completed packet.

The thing is, I'd really like to postpone my first trip to MEPS for a month since I could use more time to improve my PFT (assuming 275 is what's ideal), but my recruiter seems hellbent on sending me there as soon as I tell him my packet is ready. Am I allowed to postpone it until I'm prepared? The next review board date hasn't even been set yet so I really don't understand the rush.

>>34850823
MEPS isn't relevant to the PFT. Your medical clearance lasts for one year. You can go to MEPS and submit your packet with your PFT in 6 months if you wanted. Be mindful of board dates and deadlines.

>>34850816
>There is an option that they have to hold your job for 5 years under Federal law.
Where can I read about this?

>>34850845
Also, he's rushing it because you are wasting his time if you aren't medically qualified. He's trying to get that knocked out. If the issue is your weight tell him that.

>>34850851

http://www.military.com/spouse/career-advancement/military-spouse-jobs/userra-right-to-reemployment.html

>>34850860
>>34850845
Good to know, thanks. I'm fit enough, I was only postponing MEPS to knock another minute off my run since I was led to believe I'd be doing my PFT there.

>>34850872
Thanks

>>34850556
I have a degree in English (lol) and I graduated with a 2.96. And no just pot and adderall I never got caught up in anything else

>>34851651
Well if it makes you feel better, I had a somewhat worse GPA than you with a poli sci degree and my recruiter didn't so much as blink when I told him about it.

I've been trying to bust my ass on everything else in my packet though and so far I've turned up a letter of rec that I'm hoping will damn near be a golden ticket. Other than that, a 90+ ASVAB and a PFT over 270 should be sufficient to distract from grades.

>>34851898
Thanks for the advice anon

>>34849241
If you like young men then go for it

I have 12 hours left to decide between an RAF ground trade or Paratroopers

I can't decide. I don't know what I'll enjoy doing most.

I want to do both...

>>34852215
from burgerland perspective RAF just sounds cool

>>34852268
Its boring office work, then you hit the gym, and afterwards you go back to your room and play Xbox or drive into town and go to the club depending how social you are.

I have no idea what paras is like, I assume you sleep in a ditch with your squad, Jump out of planes daily, walk through mine fields, get shot at with real ammunition during training.

But I don't know much about Paras

How much of the shitting on Marines in these threads is accurate?

>>34852323
American marines? All of it
British ROYAL marines? None of it

American Marines are a joke. Office workers are more suitable for their job then those high school drop outs.

>>34852326
Why so salty?

>>34852381
Lol

>>34852399
Nice response. Did a marine bully you?

>>34852326
>American marines? All of it
Elaborate.

>>34852420
T. Muhreen

>>34852440
So you don't have a reason why you hate marines.

T. Never served

>>34846822
then you're a bitch

I want to burn barrels of poop. Do the Marines have a job for that kinda work?

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Do your references get contacted for a secret clearance? Or is it in on a case-to-case basis?

>>34850556
Navyfag here. Probably 4 months from your OAR test to completion of packet assuming there will be waivers, then probably 3 months of waiting for the next board if you didn't make the current one. If all goes according to plan you'll be at OCS in about 9-12 months from the day you started the process.

how closely does meps look at your cock?

i want to never again volunteer myself, but my one nut is like 3x bigger than the other and i think that is a dq or something

does the doctor like to feel up young males testes?

>>34852572
What the fuck is wrong with your nuts dude

>>34852421
Royal Marines are super small and are basically SF. Their boot camp is 36 weeks or some shit, and they ran recruitment commercials of a guy literally almost drowning while training.

USMC originally modeled after Royal Marines, they got way too big and became like 90 percent POG. Despite this they all act like they SF or Spartans or some shit

>>34852787
i have varicose veins in my ballsack. the nuts themselves are the same size but to make them the same size i'd have to get surgery which would leave a scar and questions i dont want to answer to meps

>>34847156
>armyfag

should have joined sooner then dicking around in community college with dickhead friends bieng broke...now i dick around with battles on uncle sams dime...oh and shoot funz

>>34845984
What exactly does the USAF MEPS drug testing look for?

>>34853204
all MEPS drug testing is the same

>>34853222
Then what do they look for?
>inb4 just stop smoking pot for a month
I'm sober, but I'm certain someone slipped acid in my drink a couple days ago.

>>34853340

You wouldn't be "pretty sure", you'd fucking know if someone slipped acid in your drink.

>>34849338
on anti-depressants and have a TS/SCI

although happened after being in vs before joining

>>34853204
standard piss test, looking for weed, coke, meth, etc...

>>34853423
What if I do every drug?

Thinking about joining the Canadian Army as an infantry soldier. What should I expect?

>>34853679
Mandatory sex change.

anyone have navy ocs questions?

>>34853685
Canada Yes!

>>34853662
cancels out

>>34853896
What if you're a fatbody?

>>34853356
I didn't say I was "pretty sure", my fucking face melted. I just don't know if it could be some other drug, I'm just saying acid because it's common.

>>34852528
I wish...

>tfw my janitor skills are worthless
>tfw I will never become a top tier tactical janitor and serve for 20 years until my pension

>>34852323
None of it.

>>34852323

All of it. Memerines are a meme branch.

>>34854154

Oh. Well that family of drugs are out of your system in about three days.

>>34854001
If you dont pass the first IST Wednesday morning (check in Sunday) you'll get held back 3 weeks, fail it again and you get kicked out

Are there any overseas bases I can get stationed at if I'm in the Airborne?

>>34854313

Italy has a substantial airborne presence.

You're still probably going to spend most of your career at Bragg, but you can hope.

>>34854318
Is the base or area nice (if you've been there)?

>>34853679
Belt fed cock on the daily

Is it bad to do a c25k day twice in one day? I.E once in morning then another about 8 hours after?

>>34847156
I regret taking a boring ass job for the bonus, 25S, but mostly also being Airborne and stuck at Bragg/Gordon forever. At least without Airborne I'd have been in Japan or Germany like everyone else in my class. I scored higher than all of them, too.

>>34854681
What is airborne so I don't do it

>>34854680
It depends how much you are used to running, and how your body feels when you do it. Running too much when you aren't used to it is really bad for your body.

>>34854759
Basically, you say to the Army recruiter, "I want to be Airborne" and then you go to Airborne school and have fun, even though you are run ragged, then get paid an extra 50 bucks a paycheck to run more than normal Army units. Also sometimes you get to jump out of airplanes with heavy packs of Shit hanging off of you, and trying not to get tangled with other jumpers in the air or die. It did cure me of my fear of heights, though.

>>34854973
Oh that is what I wanted to do, its called paratroopers here.

Now I feel conflicted

>>34854773
Whats a good indication that you shouldnt run anymore for that day? Raspy voice?

>>34855014
Well my experience is just indicative of US Army, 82nd HHBN (Headquarters Headquarters Battalion) which is going to probably be vastly different from any combat unit. Hell, my unit never even got to do our jobs when we deployed, we were just the losers whose officers agreed to whore us out for every task that came up because they wanted to Brown nose. If you go airborne, or paratroopers, then hopefully you choose a job with some actual meaning.

>>34855053
Fatigued legs, pain, soreness, etc.

>>34855105
Oh right.

So I graduated last year with a good degree and a 3.5. The problem is I havent done shit in the past year because of shit like
>xd we'll call you back
From fucking retail. Anyways, is that going to be an issue when looking into being an officer?

>>34855425
No, but prepare for a 1-2 year wait depending, read posts above about the same subject

>>34855611
I see. This is a unanswerable, but is it fucking worth it? I have done jack shit for a year and need to get the fuck out of here. I am going insanse sitting in my room for 15 hours and then sleeping (workout for an hour a day).
Can't I just say
>Here I am send me wherever the fuck you want

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Marines

I'm not saying the Marines are the best branch, but we did beat the Japanese single handedly.

>>34855767
>mfw Marines were intentionally held back from D-Day because Us Army commanding officers didn't want the headlines the next day to read "Marines save Rangers at Omaha beach"

Guys Im doing the 100 pushup challenge but it seems like my triceps wither away really fast if I dont take a break day. Im on week three day one and I couldnt make it past the 12, 7, 9. The pushups I do are chest touches ground and arms are close in and hands as far down as possible or about bottom hand to bottom pec.
Is that a bad form?

>>34855678
>>Here I am send me wherever the fuck you want

That would be enlisting.

What is the degree in?

How exactly does the MEPs process work? When do I choose my job, and if none of the jobs I want are available, can I wait until they are?

>>34853896
Can you give some examples of mental games they play on you?

>>34855678
How the fuck have you gone an entire year without a job? Go fix your damn resume son.

>>34855678
I'm currently finishing my degree in December, going to be in this same boat most likely.

Prior service with a 3.9 GPA. My ASVAB was very high back when I enlisted, and I am able to use the same score. My letters of recommendation are from prior service/college professors, and my PT score is pretty solid.

All that being said, I still feel like they are going to take their sweet ass time with it all.

>>34855867
You form is fine but you need to rest a day between each pushup day. Your muscles don't have a chance to recover and repair if you're constantly adding reps and tearing your muscles down every day.

>>34847625
I don't really get any back issues from activities, no working out, or running bothers it.
Literally just sitting, maybe because of poor posturing. Actually spent a long time testing out what triggered the sensation specifically.

>>34855929
So what's the reason for the long wait after you pass the review board? Are they just sending people to rot in HHC while they wait to get admitted into the next OCS class?

>>34855918
yes you can

>>34855916
Math
>>34855921
I technicallt worked for amazon for three aeeka until they started writing people up for taking their break. I had a lot of shit going on and that was just the straw that broke the camel's back. Also IE (socal) sucks balls for employment. I had two really good full time jobs lined up and both times the company just happened to downsize and fire 100 people. The second time just happened a couple weeks ago.
>>34855929
At least you're better off than I am. I'm sure you'll make it.

>>34855987
You don't even ship for basic for at least 6 months. Sometimes longer.

>>34856015
Your degree is literally in "Math"? I was going to suggest something else but I can't if you aren't going to be specific.

>>34847156
I absolutely hated every second of the last 4 years of my enlistment and I still don't regret it.

>>34856035
Sorry. I have a B.S. in Applied Mathematics with an emphasis in Economics. Graduated "cum laude"

I have rest days, two if needed. Whats bugging me is that I don't feel my muscle going away, so when I goto the next step I end up flopping. I always work out inbetween meals so that way I get needed nutrition. But there's nothing wrong with repeating a day I guess.

>>34856015
>>34856087
lol i call bullshit or i have no idea where you live or what shitty college you went to. its that or you are fucking awful at the resume writing/interview process. did you not intern with anyone ever in college? or is this some anti-college pro-enlist shilling?

>>34856138
Thanks anon, I'll definitely look into that.
>>34856150
You call bullshit on my life? I dunno what to tell you. This area sucks. I went to a state school (UC) and switched majors se ond year and spent summers making sure I got out in 4 years. Parents never helped me with a car, resume, or any of that. I have no father figure because my dad's basically the 50yo equivalent to a liberal numale and my mom is the definition of aloof. That's basically all it took. That and my stupid ass thinking everything people told me was fine and that they knew more than I did so their advice was better
>Anon dont get a job, focus on school!
>Wow math! You'll get such a great job!
Just to add, I don't want this to come off as bitching. I just fell for a common trap and know that a lot of people on 4chan have as well.

why does the army want people so much more than other branches? there also seems to be a lot of them posting on 4chan. are they using 4chan to recruit?

>>34855767
>>34855815
None of this is true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp2yZAxaiLk

>>34855704
M A R I N E S
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>>34857189

Army is bigger and has more slots to fill, simple as that.

>>34850705
Ya you can go at a later date if seats are available. But is your joining unit airborne? If not, those seats will be few and far between. If you aren't in Florida ri Connecticut or I think Washington, there aren't many seats. Ga might be easy since the school house is there but again, if the units not airborne, it'll be tough

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I know these threads are 90% American posting, but can anybody tell me what the Canadian army (specifically the infantry) is like?

How bad a liability is needing glasses? I can see well enough with them on, but with them off anything more than two feet away becomes a blur.

>>34852866
Doesnt sound disqualifying desu

If I'm halfway through an RAF application, would it be rude if I go down to my local Army recruitment centre and speak to them?

I just want to make sure I've made the right decision.

Will my AFCO find out? They Army Recruitment centre is miles away from my AFCO.

Why does the army suck so bad?

>>34858581
There's a common system. If you have already submitted anything they will see that you have an RAF application open, so they will mention that.

As you haven't started RAF training or attended any selection events, you won't be in breach of anything but it will look a bit odd. Your AFCO will be notified that you have had a meeting with an Army recruiter, which is standard practice.

What is it you would like to know? Not a recruiter, but I'll do my best.

>>34859172
I had my meeting. I don't think it was logged, I just sat down, asked some questions and we spoke for an hour and that was that.

I've decided I will continue with the air force do I'm happy I got it out my system.

>>34859236
If you gave a name it will have been.

>>34859367
uh oh

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DLPT today gents. Been at DLI since last april and were finally done

>>34859885
>Been at DLI since last april
Do you mean april as in like 4 months ago or april 2016?

Has anyone in this thread ever left a steady lucrative career to join the military?

I've considered it...

>>34859954
2016

>>34860107
Holy shit, i cant imagine being stuck at a training command for that long. How was it? Whats next?

>>34860124
Well I learned Korean and that was a nightmare. I had fun though as I got to study abroad for 6 weeks in seoul. Graduating next Thursday and I feel like 1000 pounds is being lifted off my shoulders.
I go to goodfellow next

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Mfw you realize the coast guard has higher physical standards than air force and navy

Where did it all go wrong?

>>34860148
>I go to goodfellow next
Whats that?
What happens there?
Branch?

>>34860264
I'm air force. It's just my next tech school. Because I'm airborne linguist I have to get language training then some top secret training at goodfellow I've been told and then SERE then to my first duty station. 2 years from basic to being operational in total

>>34860308
damn good shit. What incentives did you get for that job? Faster advancement or a bonus?

>>34860372
When I signed the bonus for this job was 14k. I mean no promotions or anything but I'm in line for BTZ so there's that. Lots of extra pay though because language pay, flight pay, danger pay etc

>>34860404
>BTZ
???

>>34860439
Below the zone. Getting e4 6 months early for good airmanship. I think like 15% of airmen get it

>>34860450
Oh word good shit.
What kind of orders do you expect to get?
I mean what need is there for an airborne guy who speaks korean???
Not calling you out im just trying to think what that would be good for.

>>34860482
>Hey fellow American soldier! What can you tell me about military operations in Korea? Do you have plans to parachute anywhere specific?

>>34860482
Yeah I can't talk about that stuff.
Already have TS/SCI and don't wanna lose that . >>34860514

>>34860514
>>34860526
Are you fucking retarded? First off anything you think you know is most likely public knowledge and second off as if anyone would find out that you posted on 4chan is ludacris. Time to grow up kids.

>>34860540
I'm sorry that your family has to starve now. Better luck next time.

>>34860565
Buddy ive seen this dozens of times. Little timmy gets his clearance and all of a sudden he thinks hes in the CIA. Calm your autism all I was asking was for some hypotheticals not anything specific and with that being said as a student you/he wouldnt even know any specifics yet. And again even if he did the idea that theres someone watching this meg thread and theyre going to come get him is flat out lunacy.

>>34860540
>>34860625
>sperging out this hard because he won't tell you "public knowledge"

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>>34860625

>>34860644
I am sperging fine. You actually are jason borne too, good luck assasinating kim.

>>34855920
besides the reduced sleep? max you're "guaranteed" is 7 hours, less if you have to stand watch or study, though classes aren't hard.
Just do what you're told honestly, don't stand out, don't volunteer for jobs that will just get you punished
I don't remember them playing mental games. Certain graded evolutions might be mental challenges such as the room and locker inspection which they go through everything of yours, there's a lot of hype built towards that.

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>>34857970
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/210918/rivalry-normandy-w-thomas-smith-jr

>At the last minute, word was passed down through the Army chain of command that no Marines would be allowed to go ashore, not even riding shotgun on landing craft ferrying Army troops or supplies. Rumors quickly spread that the Army leadership feared a repeat of the media gaffes in 1918. They did not want to see headlines that read, Marines save Rangers at Normandy. Consequently, the Marines were ordered to “stand down.”

>>34853896
I was told you get to do ship selection at the end of OCS based on your order of merit (graded PT, classes, evals)

how important is this actually

>>34861324
But you ignored everything else that article said dude. Not to mention whats even your point? marines are better at amphibious assaults? Well no shit thats there whole reason for existing its be more surprising if they werent better.

>>34861398
>Not to mention whats even your point? marines are better at amphibious assaults?

Yes, that was literally it.

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>>34845984

>>34861430
>marines are good at the thing theyre supposed to be good at
Why is that surprising to anyone?

Paging any ANG avionic guys, how is doing your job in the US vs overseas

>>34861334
You choose in the 5th week or so
All the SWO candidates get together with a list of available ships and decide. Youll only have one graded evolution, 1 PT test and one test grade in one class at that point so all that crap doesnt come in, at least it shouldn't. Our class didn't do that, not a SWO though

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If you ain't airborne, you ain't shit!

>>34845984
Any germans here that served in the Bundeswehr? Considering enlisting as an officer because I literally have no fucking idea what to do. I heard our military is in a bad shape but please tell me that it's just meming and not real pls

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I was told by a friend that, even though I was joining the Marine Corps, to sign up to take the ASVAB with the Navy (my job isn't available until October.) I know that one's score carries over across all branches, but am I bound to a specific branch once I go to MEPS to take the ASVAB?

Is he just blowing smoke up my ass?

>>34862285
To further clarify, he had mentioned that the Navy's ASVAB test had more components or was otherwise more refined than the Marine Corps'.

Again, if this is just nonsense then let me know.

>>34861931
And if you're a pilot you drop shit off :^)

>>34862289
It's nonsense. Just take it with whoever you're enlisting with. Also,rethink the marines.

If I want to ship in a month, or preferably sooner, what MOS/Rate/AFSC would get me sent to basic the quickest?

I'm getting contrasting answers. When I go to meps will I be doing any exercises or things like that or is it just basically a physical with some light physical activity

>>34862384
It's a familial thing.

>>34855767
>Marines had 6 Divisions, many of which were not even full divisions, in the Pacific
>Army had 22 complete infantry divisions in the pacific

>>34862442
Talk to a recruiter. They can show you what jobs are currently available.

>>34862449
Drug test, blood draw, sight/hearing test, body inspection, underwear olympics. The latter involves various movements like the duckwalk that show your joints work and you can raise your arms over your head and shit.

>>34862442
Navy undes, however this is a horrible idea and you will hate yourself

>>34862489
>It's a familial thing.
That's a stupid reason to do anything. Your family doesn't live with your decisions, YOU do.

>>34850515
if you can pass the PAST, CCT pipeline shouldn't be an issue. Just be ready to put out for about 2 solid years before making it to team.

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>>34862606
Well, they have a job that I really like, I'll be making more money than I am currently working in a grocery store, college is paid for, and I get to be the first Marine in my family.

>>34862562
Thank you my friend

>>34862631
>they have a job that I really like
What job?
>I get to be the first Marine in my family
So what?

>>34862631
If the Marines do it, another branch does it better. You will make more money than a grocery store with any job in the military. And all branches pay for college.
>I get to be the first Marine in my family.
So its not a familial thing.
There is literally no reason to pick marines over any other branch unless you have a GED

>>34862644
I'd like to work on Aircraft. I find it incredibly hard to believe that Aviation Mechanics are wildly different between each branch, especially to the civilian eye.

>>34862673
With the Marines you'll be working with beat to shit outdated aviation equipment on beat to shit outdated aircraft. You'll find better "stuff" in working with aircraft in the Navy (who hands down beat to shit aircraft to the Marines) or in the Air Force (who gets the most updated tech available) or in the Army.

>>34862673
>especially to the civilian eye
Why would that matter at all?
And itll be very different for your eye. You could easily get that job in the navy and hate your life far less.

>>34862673
Every other branch has aviation mechanics who work in better conditions on better equipment with better people

>>34862695
>>34862697
>>34862718
Thank you all for your suggestions. I won't completely disregard the Marines but I'll also look into other branches.

>when the MEPS doctor asks if you ever smoked marijuana?

>>34862897
No

>>34862785
Good. I don't mean to knock the Marines and say you shouldn't go there, but you should give consideration to other branches as well.

Marines are all about moto and physical fitness. If that's what you want then do that.

>>34862917
I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks again man!

How do you get into the Coast Guard MSRT?

I signed into the marines DEP and I'm regretting it after I discovered the cool shit Coast Guard does

>>34860177
Well, I mean theres good reason. You dont need to be a fitness buff to sit in a dark room operating a navigation center while you have to be in decent shape to be able to haul a water drenched civvie who may or may not be a fatass out of the ocean on a shaky moving vessel.

>>34863085
Now ya fucked up.
After Cape may, you get asked to make a wishlist of your duty station until you goto A school or B school for your billet.
MSRT, TACLET, MSST, and HITRON are all part of A School Maritime Law Enforcement/ME.
Its a long was wait list because everyone sees it as "OH BOY! COAST GARD N GUNS?"
On average is at least a year and a half before you get sent to school. There it is highly competitive.
Getting the highest gpa and performing the best you can will ensure you get a spot at MSRT/MSST.
Hope this helps.

>>34863827
Cant engrish
Its a long ass wait list*
The wait on average*

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So the stereotypes as I understand them are:

>Army
Too large for its own good. A bureaucratic nightmare. Personnel are overweight and only in it for the signing bonus. Just as good as Marines but don't get nearly as much recognition.

>Navy
Belligerent drunks who would fuck their own mothers if they were loaded enough. Or each other.

>Marines
PT studs with brains the size of an acorn. If you deviate from the Corps' orders then you are as good as dead to them. Also, every Marine wishes Chesty Puller was their father. OOOOOOHRAAAHHHH

>Air Force
Weenie desk jockeys who have too much free time on their hands and not enough muscle mass. Will skate by with the bare minimum in anything that does not require using brainpower. Wants a cushy military experience.

>Coast Guard
The true few and proud.

How accurate are these?

>>34863871
>>Army
>Too large for its own good.

Stopped there

>>34863897
I've heard the Army was a fucking mess of red tape due to its size.

>>34863923

That's just government jobs as a whole, including military.

>>34846094
SAS?

>>34852537
>Do your references get contacted for a secret clearance? Or is it in on a case-to-case basis?
yes thats why you have to provide them in the first place you dolt

in general though it's just basic questions like "does anon have any major debts?", "does anon do drugs?", "is anon prone to losing things?", etc.

people hype up MUH TS in this thread but it's more just slow to get than hard to get

>>34860625
>Buddy ive seen this dozens of times. Little timmy gets his clearance and all of a sudden he thinks hes in the CIA.
basically this, it's not exactly super special shit.

>>34862608
Thats not true at all. passing the past proves nothing. its the easiest part of the battlefield airman pipeline. Ive past the past and earned a beret to one of the battlefield positions. PAST doesn't prove shit.

>>34863871

Pretty wrong on everything.

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Shipping out to BMT in the morning; wierd feeling in the pit of my stomach.

See ya'll in a couple months.

>>34864773

Enjoy your sleep. This is the last full night you'll get for a long time.

>>34864773
Good luck anon

>>34863827
Speaking of waiting, what's it like for other branches, specifically the Air Force? Do people normally finish basic and then sit around for months before going to their tech school?

What rates/MOS would be recommended to look into for someone that wants to work with computers/technology in the Navy? Preferably something that provides transferable skills for civilian work.

>>34865476

CTN is the best option by a long shot.

Met with my recruiter today, scheduled MEPS and ASVAB next week, heading into reserves as an E3 with my college credits. Is it possible to switch to active duty later on and OCS too?

Is a smart guy going combat arms truly the patrician choice, or a false path?

>>34858452
google it, there are literal guidelines on how bad vision can be and they seem pretty lax.
>>34862449
you can find a full list of the underwear olympics stuff online, literally the only thing you might suck at is walking back and forth on your toes and heels?

>>34865744
Only if you're going special ops

How exactly do things work the day before boot camp? Does your recruiter hang around you all day or will he come to pick you up and take you to MEPS?

>>34865844

UZ contract so yes..?

>>34866132
Is that for recon or force recon/marsoc?

>>34866167

Recon, but when you do recon the pipeline for MARSOC becomes abbreviated due to overlap.

>>34866262
What made you choose marines over the other branches for special ops ?

How do Marines and the Navy compare to one another?

Was curious cause I know they're the closest of all branches.

>>34852495
Fuck you POG 4 LYFE

/fit/izen here, been used to years of weight training and recently had to quit my gym membership.
How comparable is bodyweight stuff overall for military purposes? I haven't done bodyweight regularly in about 8-9 years so I'm rusty as hell on it as well.

>>34867792
What are you planning on doing in the military?

>>34867814
Same MP Reserve fag been lurking around here lately.
Essentially combat/Marine standard fitness. Only have 20lb dumbbells and a pullup bar at home, so I can't do my usual powerlifting.

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Rate my lift routine.

Upper body Day
>Bench= 245lbs : (6 x %75),(5 x %85),(4 x %95)
>Curls/skull crushers= 70 - 90 lbs: (3 x 12) working on (3 x 20)
>Incline= 184 lbs: same as bench
>bent over/ upright rows= 135 lbs: same as Curls

Lower body Day
>Deadlifts= 315 lbs: (3 x 12)
>Squats = 315 lbs: (6 x %75),(5 x %85),(4 x %95)

Cardio
Warm up with 1/2 mile every day, 2 mile run in 15 mins (I'm a fatty).
>working on 10 mile runs before breakfast (just like the Navy SEALs!)

Really I want to go Green Beret. I went back to College to better myself socially and mentally. This is the physical side. I also work a labor job

>>34867846
Dont invent your own routine, do an actual PL routine dude.
Same goes for running, look up the couch to 10k and just do that.
Youre not a genius and neither am I, someone else already figured this shit out just copy what they did.

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>>34867937
I'll be honest with you I had to look up PL. Looks exactly what I'm doing. It's a routine i learned from HS football off season. There's a shit ton more calisthenics that relate to whatever day it is.

>>34855963
>>34847393
I'm in the same situation, slight scoliosis that causes some light pain(mostly discomfort) after lying down on my back or side for long periods of time. It's not a huge problem for me and I've gone backpacking before with no problems but I want to know if it act up in military conditions.

Also will scoliosis disqualify me form Canadian armed forces?

>>34867846
Nowhere near enough cardio.

You should be running distance and getting the miles in. The big thing that people fail on is CV fitness. It's rare that a recruit fails on strength (in fact, it's pretty much unheard of) and you're clearly confident enough with weights anyway.

>Really I want to go Green Beret
Then become a competent long distance runner. Take up skiing or cycling.

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>>34868020
A question for that: How do i protect my knees and other joints related to running from degradation and stress? like you said cycling?

Also something i read about muscly SF/SOF. For special long range missions they carry smaller amounts of food and allow the body to eat its muscle (catabolysis) as a food source. That why Jesse Ventura, Arnold S., portray SEALs as huge fuckers.

I read that as long as you were to eat above 500 calories that you wouldn't go into survival mode but catabolysis would happen.

Question: how much demand is there for infantry in the Canadian forces, If I'm fit for service and do okay on the cfat am I pretty much guaranteed a job?

Also what do most people in infantry full time do? As far as I'm aware besides a few special forces guys we have no boots on the ground so will I just be sitting in a base twiddling my thumbs and doing PT if I join infantry?

>>34853679
>>34858403
Also thinking of this. Can
anyone give any serious answers?

>>34865512
This or IT if you can't get it.

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>>34868011
makes sense but how often are your lifting days? Whats your split look like?
>>34868062
Like I said follow a routine. Couch to 10k.
And that food thing is complete bullshit. Your body wont break down any muscle after 1 run dude.

>>34866132
18x is the thinking man's contract

>>34868062
Wear properly fitted shoes for running with running socks. Run on even, flat, stable ground. Do not run with weight.

I have no idea what you are talking about with the rest of it. Just focus on cardio.

Any advice from ADF blokes here?
Thinking of joining infy either now or after uni

>>34868521
Sorry i was asking if that was a real thing that last part and if it was a thing i should expect innadeployment

>>34866507

The opportunity to do FID, HUMINT, and potentially even JTAC duties. It was down to CCT and shooting for a language coded billet so that I could get FID related training, or going for MARSOC. I lean toward MARSOC.

>>34868472

The problem there is that if you get slotted into 18d you can't move to 18f so it basically becomes a 25% chance of getting locked out of doing HUMINT duties.

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>>34868011
I'll do the 10k thing. I need cardio.

its 5 days a week and i coordinate the 2 rest days with my off days. My boss sets up my off days whenever he feels like so it keeps it interesting

How much will I bulk going into the army if I already hit the weight and fitness requirements. Because I'm currently a pretty small guy and I don't want to bulk up much.

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>>34864046
by secret clearance, I meant secret ONLY, not TS or just clearances in general

learn to read retard

Anybody done FLW OSUT?

>if you have a problem don't tell them about it at meps let meps find it. Then pretend you don't know
Why do recruiters tell you to do this? This sounds like a bad idea

>>34870194
its a 100% good idea. Its easier to pretend it doesnt exist then make a big deal about it. If they have the option of a normal recruit vs one with extra baggage you figure out which one theyre gonna take.
>>34869744
>bulk going into the army
None, most people lose weight going through basic

>>34870208
Even if I'm already a skelly? I was under the impression that if you were skinny you'd put on weight, not necessarily through basic but once you enter service

>>34846399
It's being heavily over saturated right now. Promotion is going to be tough later.

>>34869723
>>34868260
Sorry this was meant for you

>>34870221
>but once you enter service
Why? they dont force feed you food dude.
>>34870226
Dude you do that many squats and DL multiple times a week like that? idk man youd be better off getting on a real program that uses linear progression and some periodization. It would also free up days for running and mobility work.
Most PL programs, including the one I do, are 3 days a week. You could lift 3 days and run the other 3. With 1 true rest day. Think about it my nig.

>>34846399
You will just be a normal medic, there is no combat

>>34870222
Not him, but why is it being over saturated?

>>34870476
Same reason Infantry is over saturated, a lot of people want to do it

>>34865739
I'm, hopefully, going to be in a similar boat soon. Bumping for you as I'd like to know as well. My understanding is that you can, but it's "different"

Alright so I'm new to these parts. What's the best way to study for the asvab. I feel like I have everything down but the shop/physics stuff. Might also need to brush up on some science. Are there any guides y'all would recommend?

>>34870748
>>34865739
Going from reserves to actie is tough and usually takes a long time and lots of paperwork. Not saying its impossible but tis better to go active from day one if you can.

>>34870909
What about becoming an officer after enlisting? I haven't signed anything yet as I'm weighing my options.

>>34870208
But if it's something I'm aware of and there's a medical record of it I should still just pretend I don't know? I mean I get recruiters want as many bodies as they can get but I just don't entirely get it

>>34870987
Well you gotta really shine to get great evals. Not sure for OCS im sure its similar but LDOs are extremely common in the navy.
>>34871008
>But if it's something I'm aware of and there's a medical record of it I should still just pretend I don't know?
Nigger obviously ti matters what we're talking about here. What is your specific problem?

>>34863871
> t. coastie

Can somebody make a
>the virgin army
>the marine chad

So if I pass force recon reqs, can I get rejected simply because there aren't enough contracts? Same for any socom branch?

>>34871602
please no, that meme completely jumped the shark

>>34871614

SOF elements are pretty much never full, but their training pipelines can be backlogged depending on how many people are qualifying to make an attempt.

If you meet the requirements to go to a selection, most SOF elements will just waitlist you until there's a seat available. The Marines are retarded with their SOF accessions though so they may do something stupid.

>>34871665
It'd make me feel better if you told me there was a lot of turnover. I'm looking for that 20y pension, maybe skip out on the whole wageslavery thing.

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How is the Marine Intelligence field?

inb4
>Marines
>Intelligent

>>34871682

If you want a nice stable career where you won't fuck your body up, get an office job. SOF chews people up and spits them out.

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>>34871699
Sounds better than the rat race imo.

>>34871692

Intel Marines are some of the only Marines I can stand working with. It takes a special kind of individual to be smart enough to hang in intel but dumb enough to stick with the corps.

Technical Marines (like those in intel) tend to be incredibly mismanaged and it shows in joint operations.

Will the australian army accept me if I claim to be transitioning?

>>34871798
Didn't they just ban males from enlisting anyways

>>34871821
i think that's what he means, "claim to be transitioning" in order to avoid the man-ban

>>34871841
>>34871798
>>34871821
>>34871821
>Didn't they just ban males from enlisting anyways
wtf???
Why? Details?

>>34849346
if the reason you consulted with them was for stress related to marital, family, or grief (which can look like depression, and can be treated with the same meds), you'll be fine. for example, If you were living with your parents, or interracting twith them and they were being controlling or abusive, and they're the reason you saw a shrink and got meds, you probably don't have to disclose, especially if you never took them or got it refilled.

>>34871944
Not the same anon, but I had a counselor visit where I was listed as Depressed, no meds.
Sourced from grief over an injury that killed my gains and gf problems. Close enough to marital, family, grief?

>>34871874
They want women in combat roles, but women arent signing up enough. So they just decided that men arent allowed to enlist until infantry has an acceptable amount of women

>>34872282
Jesus christ wtf
How is that legal? Why is there no uproar? Thats fucking insane.

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>>34872282
Kek Fucking kangaroos