/k/ommandos, I am going to be backcountry camping in a national

>>34845558
Jeez, don't carry a rifle or shotgun around with you while hiking. I promise you, you will get sick of carrying the weight.

Bring a firearm for people if you want, just bring bear mace for bear. No point pouring money into a backup gun you won't be good enough to shoot well.

>>34845601
I'm a vet. I'm used to carrying a rifle for extended periods of time. I don't trust bear mace to work on a pissed off charging bear. I would only use it if a bear was passively wandering too close for comfort. And if I were to get a backup gun I would have months to train with it before I go, so that is a non-issue.

>>34845558
Get a smith 29. It's practical and generally all around fun to shoot. If you're going for a rifle, .45-70 isn't a bad choice at all, buy old marlin.

Why are these guns against bear threads so common?
Statistically last year you were more likely to be killed by Hilary Clinton than by a bear.
In the woods dont be a dumbass, bears are not going out hunting people down.

>>34846118
Tripfags fuck off

>>34846118
look up the list of fatal bear attacks. In fatal attacks the bear quite literally charges a hiker or biker going down a trail at full speed in ambush mode and kills them as fast as possible. Ie they hunted them.

If you're okay with the added 8lbs (after ammo) of the 870, I would do that. Cheapest, most capable, and probably the lightest you're going to get. If you had the $$, I would get a 44, 454, 460, or 500 short barrel.

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>>34846118
It pulls double duty against both bears and druggies, natives. Plus its fun to blast shit around camp when you're bored.

>>34846200
Weight isn't a problem for me. I do have a .44 lever action but I trust my Remington to do the job better. Thanks for the advice
>>34846118
Because unlike you, there are people that actually go outside. I don't care about statistics. I am going to be in bear country. That alone increases the odds of an attack 50 fold. I like to be prepared for anything. I am trying to gather information from people that live in bear country. If you don't and have nothing to offer, why not go back to /arg/ and shitpost about your ar you spent 5 grand on but never shoot?

>>34845601
+1 for the bear mace.

>>34845558
I would say a .44mag

>>34846372
The fact of the matter is, OP, that bear mace is way more effective than a firearm. Nobody here has ever shot a bear in self-defense, so you're not gonna get authoritative answers. Pick the caliber that makes you feel best about the situation, but ultimately if you ever get stuck in the situation where you actually need the gun, you're probably SOL.

>>34845558
Personally, if I were to carry anything it would be spray. That may be a preference thing, but I don't trust my aim enough to hit a small brain behind a thick skull. Plus the weight of the gun. It's only a 35 mile hike, but still I'd rather not have to deal with it.

Odds are you wont see a bear at all. Make sure to make sounds when you hike or listen to music out loud, anything to warn any bears that you're there as to not catch them off guard.

Firearms are not allowed in NP. Unless you're going to one in Alaska or something.

>>34845601
>>34847027
>bear mace

Y'all niggas need Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK609rbSBLs

>>34848874
Explicitly untrue. Local firearms laws apply to national parks.

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>>34845558
When you park your truck in the national park, remove your truck gun from your truck and put it in your backpack. You'll then be prepared for any dangers on the trail.

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If you go with 45-70 gov't, choose a heavy, hardcast bullet at a minimum. You want the bullet to penetrate deep and shatter bone. Old hunter I knew said to shoot a charging bear in the shoulder to shatter the joint, and aim low to compensate for that fact that the target is coming directly at you.