If anyone knows, it is you guys. Can you train an octopus to

creatures of the sea will have a hard time using guns underwater in the first place

>>34842599
Can't you fire a gun in shallow water? what if it is a really good gun, like a Glock?

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>>34842599

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>>34842588
Almost certainly; they're capable of much finer manipulation than a trigger pull. Actually manipulating for aim would be another story, but I'm not sure one couldn't.

>>34842599
Octopi can go above water for brief periods of time.

I imagine recoil management would be substantially harder with no bones.

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>>34842727
>what if it is a really good gun, like a Glock?
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octopus are based
squid are faggots
a squid would shoot you in a heartbeat just out of spite

>>34842588
Studies show Octopuses learn from watching.
If you show an Octopus how to work the action, and show working the action provides food or something that would benefit it, it would imitate you for similar results.

But it wont care to fire a gun or spear (>>34842750) just to fire it. It will need to see it as beneficial, like something to crack open a glass box with crabs in it or something.

>>34844024
tactical mollusk

>>34844024
Also there runs the risk of the Octopus not entirely understanding the function.

If you used a Glock as >>34842727 said, there's a good chance it would wrap itself around the slide, or even the end of the barrel. Stopping the action or even destroying the barrel, since it only sees pull trigger = glass break.

>>34844045
They are not as stupid as you think, they can solve rubiks cubes.

They can figure out that massive pressure waves shoot out the front of that object.

>>34844056
>massive pressure waves shoot out the front
True, I concede.
But they'd still probably cause a feeding malfunction by grabbing the slide.

>>34842588
Not sure if Octopus' are even strong enough to work an action.

>>34844069
Except they're smart enough to see "that thing moves when I do this, so it will hurt me if I touch it"

You think they're "just animals" but they're not.

CAN YOU SOLVE A RUBIK'S CUBE????? WITHOUT GOOGLING THE ALGORITHMS?

>>34844093
North Pacific giant octopus weights up to a 150 lbs, that should do.

ok someone get a kickstarter going so we can fund the research on someone else's dime

>>34844122
>CAN YOU SOLVE A RUBIK'S CUBE?????
only by taking it apart. i can get four sides and there's like 3 squares off on the other two.

>>34844167
You are officially stupider than an octopus. I don't mean to offend you, only to give you some perspective on this issue.

I, too, cannot solve a rubik's cube without algorithms. I, too, am less mechanically intelligent than an octopus.

Since we're worse at observing simple mechanical constructs in the world, and intuitively understanding how to manipulate them it's pretty fucking stupid to assume ANYTHING about what an octopus can or can't figure out.

>>34843987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lG-snJZIV8

>btfo by a Big Black Glock
LOL U mad white boi?

>>34844191
yeah, nah
cephalopods are colorblind

I can't find anything about ocotopi solving rubiks cubes other than bullshit youtube videos where they cut out the "solving" part.

>>34843987

please leave. we won't miss you

Yes Anon it is possible. In fact, I have done it many times with lots of different octopi. You see, I am forming an army of underwater allies, and because most sea-creatures don't have thumbs or anything, I had to settle on the octopus as my armies muscle.

>>34844412
>>34844412
They're not colorblind. Octopi can change colors to blend in with anything or even pretend to be something else, and cuttlefish do it to communicate.

>>34845893
They don't use their eyesight to do that, their skin has color detecting proteins.
Cuttlefish do it to communicate but they only flash 2 contrasting colors so further color recognition is not needed.

>>34846322
> color detecting protein
Not the other guy, but that is rad as fuck.
Sounds reverse-engineerable for camo.

>>34846322
That is mad cool. Do you happen to remember the source for that info? I want to read about that.

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>>34844220
noice

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>>34844024
>tfw you have to explain to the octopus why it NEEDS a gun

>>34842588
all they need is:
1-see the gun being used
2-access to the gun
3-one million years of evolution, so it can develop both intelligence and a culture that stimulate the use of guns

>>34851164
>intelligence
implying you need much of that for gun culture

>>34851457
you don't need much improvement on cephalopod intelligence, but the way they are now they cant grasp the concept of a modern gun as a tool.
I bet humans from 1 million years ago would not be quite able to use a pistol either
you fucking liberal

>>34851471
>I bet humans from 1 million years ago would not be quite able to use a pistol either
You lose that bet, if you are able to train marines on rifles you won't have any problems with training homo erectus.

>>34847712
Thats oddly specific

>>34843745
This. Maybe use them for stationary weapons / artillery?

>>34843987
Depth charges have been used in combat since 1914.

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>>34851579

underrated

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>>34842588

Octopuses... octopi... octopees... however you call them have neurons in their tentacles, each "leg" has a mind of its own, so the little cephalopod feller would likely ND

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>>34852152
>veteran glock user.jpg
>1911fag

>>34852192
Octopi is correct.

>>34852192
I was wondering about this.

The little guys have more nervous tissue outside of their brain than in their brain.

So could they train the nervous tissue in their tentacles to shoot, or is that part of their body limited to things they instinctively understand.

>>34852458
>not getting the joke
>hes missing his arms
>because a glock blew them off

>>34843987
Summers almost over dont you have to start studying for school bud?

>>34842599
Not with all those boating accidents, military surplus dumps, and government black ops shenanigans.
>implying mutated supersoldier fish and wildlife aren't building a massive billions strong army of /k/ube tier military surplus gear, vehicles, and weapons amassed through hundreds of years of human war and conflict along with whatever illuminati space age/alien captured future weapons to bolster their forces with death rays and such.

>>34843962
Jesus, I don't remember it looking that bad

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>>34852483

i would imagine it would be similar to split brain experiments (i.e. those performed on post-lobotomy patients who had their corpus collosums severed, neat shit... the left hand can stroke the right and the person has no idea who is doing it)

>>34842588
No...but I can't wait until we genetically engineer real tentacle dick rape monsters as intelligent organic sex toys.

>>34855511
i hope not. i have enough competition as is.

>>34852491
I got the joke, I'm saying it's a shit joke because the person in the pic is a 1911fag.