If guns that could shoot 60 or more rounds of ammunition a minute

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>>34824333

Be honest, guys.

shall not be infringed

>>34824333
By putting all 60 in OP.

>>34824333
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
Invented 58 years prior to the Revolutionary War
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grapeshot
Has been in military usage since at least 1419
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
Invented roughly 2 years into the Revolutionary War and actually saw usage during such

They wouldn't have changed a goddamn thing because they did exist at the time.

>>34824333
A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

go back to wherever you came from, asshole

>>34824373
Not sure what these stationary weapons that only a standing army could field has to do with ordinary guns any wacko can buy off the shelf and lay waste to innocents by the dozens.

>>34824387
Nothing stopping a civilian from buying artillery. Hell people bought entire ships, and outfitted them with cannons and guns and just sail around

>>34824387
The Girandoni air rifle was an infantry rifle, not a stationary weapon. Shall not be infringed.

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Twill come a time where faggotry abounds and men turn to flakes of snow. If this should come to pass, ban all of these sissy nannies as far west as the Pacific Ocean. There they can prance and be the masters of their own destruction away from common, respectable men. If any of these faggots protest against arms they should be slain and displayed on the western boarder of faggotland. They will serve as a warning to those who would seek to deny a man the natural, god given right of self defense.

>if an electronic digital media that could distribute gigabytes of radical information across the world in seconds, how would the founding fathers have written the first amendment?

>>34824387
Delicious tears

>>34824387
>appeal to emotion fallacy
Typical.

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>>34824439
>had existed in the time of the founding fathers

>>34824387
The Puckle Gun was used by private companies for a while

>>34824347
fpbp

>>34824375
>A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>well-regulated
>regulated

Huh, never thought about that part before.

>>34824527
Well regulated also means in good working order, and that was the common usage of the term at the time.

>>34824538
Not doing stupid shit or falling into banditry were notable issues.

>>34824333

The only difference is that we'd have an M16 on our national flag and it would be United States of Earth instead of America.

>>34824527
thats because you're a pinko.

the american militia stands at the ready, just aching for the opportunity to act.

>>34824387
You do realize militias and private citizens owned artillery and extremely large stores of gunpowder, mortar rounds, and artillery munitions.

For fucksake Thomas Jefferson complain in his jernal about his neighbor shooting artillery rounds off on the 4th of July in his old age.

>>34824591
I have heard of quite a lot of fuck ups.

No insult intended but "Ready" seems a bit of a stretch

Unprovoked name calling seems a sign of poor discipline.

>>34824600
>jernal
anon, what the fuck

>>34824387
All of them were completely unregulated until the 1930's. Anybody could own one, there was no background check or waiting period or other barrier to entry, and they were relatively affordable (the GIrardoni cost less than a Kentucky long rifle, for example, and even a wheelwright or other blue collar laborer could buy an artillery piece with 1 month's wages). They could literally be bought "off the shelf". Hell there weren't even any age restrictions, an 8 year old could buy one.

terrible, terrible bait thread. Also OP a faggot

>>34824600
Again, you're comparing weapons when used with the coordination of other men can repel armies of the time period to modern guns where anyone can wage a one-man war against a classroom full of schoolchildren

>>34824634
Using speech to text. Stop calling my phone stupid.

>>34824527
>any male of sound body age 17 or over is a member of the militia
>"the militia" is outlined, funded, and organized under Federal law, and as such it is "well-regulated"
It's literally in the Constitution.

The fact they were allowed to retain said weapons LITERALLY IS WHAT CAUSED THEIR COUNTRY TO EXIST. What do you think

>>34824333
If the internet and sources of media where information could travel in a fraction of a second existed in Revolutionary times, how would the founding fathers have written the first amendment?

>>34824649
Any object capable of doing one of those is capable of doing both of those, firearm or not.

>>34824627
if the shoe fits, wear it, fuck face.

>>34824649
again
>appeal to emotion fallacy

>>34824649
You're comparing organized militias to School shooters? I'm guessing you're unaware of gun culture. People who own guns literally consider themselves in one giant militia.

You're not going to get your way at least not in the next few Generations. You have to legislate guns illegal which is going to be extremely difficult in this generation. Then you have to acquire back the 88 million plus guns without firing a shot.

Good luck. But hey keep dreaming that Utopia.

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>>34824387
>stationary weapons
>Giradoni air rifle

>>34824387
You're fucking retarded and it's obvious to anyone with an IQ over 50 just face it. Arguing is not your strength.

>>34824387
Did you know one gallon of gas explodes with the force of eleven sticks of dynamite?

>>34824387
>weapons that only a standing army could field
private citizens owned warships at the time

>>34824680
Well huh. First time I found myself on the pro gun control side of thing.

Knowing an asshole like you may be armed makes me wish you were not.

>>34824750
god forbid one point out the top 5 makeshift bombings in america have more victims than the top 100 shootings combined

>>34824781
typical leftist. cowers in the face of adversity. this is why im better than you.

>>34824651
>speech to text
that was my initial thought, but I thought that software was up to date enough to not inject non-real words. I find that interesting though i dont use it,, are you using joogle voice?

>>34824781
>heheh i'll pretend to be for gun rights

>>34824781
>Knowing an asshole like you may be armed makes me wish you were not.
nobody cares about your feelings but your therapist.

>>34824333
HEY OP YOU FUCKING FAGGOT HOW ABOUT WE INVEST IN BETTER EDUCATION THAT DOESNT MAKE BLACK PEOPLE CRIMINALS YOU FUCKING RACIST SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED REEEEEEEEEEE

OP needs to go back to >/pol/ for being such a giant faggot.

>>34824358
Read the federalist paper (the foot notes to the constitution written by the guys who wrote the constitution)

>>34824822
>>34824845
>>34824808
Wow, you are very butthurt.

Also incapable of capitalization.

>>34824781
Sorry little baby boy but this world will rip you apart if you think some mean words on the internet is triggering

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>>34824649
don't care,

i am so opposed to gun control i will do everything in my power to proliferate them and undermine any attempt to control them, regardless of who gets them or whatever they use them for.

>>34824358
We are being honest. You just don't like the answers.

>>34824883
Someone is triggering so hard they broke it off.

It is not me.

>>34824876
im not butthurt when i tell you to go pound sand in your ass. im telling you to do so because you're out of line, not because i'm upset. i dont care either way. to express things in print or speech is a right guaranteed by the constitution. right above the one that says i can carry a gun, is the one that says i can tell you to sodomize yourself with a piece of glowing-hot re-bar.

i do it with a smile on my face :) this counts as fun for me, chucklefuck.

>>34824333
There would be two amendments, one that already exists and the other to make it a death penalty to restrict any man from arms

>>34824333
Same way. Technology makes no difference because it was the idea that mattered.

Also Firing squads or having a hundred men lined up to fire at different times literally did the same thing. 60 Men x 3 Lines = 60 Rounds Fired for each line with only seconds paused inbetween for the line behind to fire.

>>34824387
Girandoni air rifle held up to 20 rounds and was "rapid fire".

Lewis and Clarke used one to impress the Indian tribes they encountered.

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>>34824910
Good for you buddy.
Whatever keeps you going.

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time to proliferate deadly things you can make in your kitchen/garage

>>34824945
yeah IM the troll...ok...whatever helps you sleep at night, kid.

you came into my house. i didnt come in to yours.

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>>34824975

>>34824996
>>34824945
you're both invalid losers, get over yourselves and talk about guns or leave.

>>34825026
>>34824996
>>34824945
you three are faggots

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red=fun just take proper precaution to prevent injury to yourself!

SHALL

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>>34825068
the poison gas one should work in theory

>>34824527
>only the monarchy/federal government/state government can create standards
>implying it says anywhere you need to lick boots to keep your state free and it's not saying that any unorganised resistance to tyranny is doomed to fail
"No."

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Apologies for running late gentlemen...

Chapter 4

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>>34825152
Are you honestly trying to slide a thread about the second amendment? We're here to prove Count Dicksuckula, aka OP, wrong, not read manga of the month #4674

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>>34825152

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>>34825152
post something that can be used to kill people or fuck off

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>>34825174

Banning specific guns isn't actually infringing your second amendment rights. Banning all arms would be.

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>>34824817
I don't know I probably should. It's whatever the default setting is for a Galaxy Note 4. I really should update this phone but I just love it so much.

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>>34825193
yes it does

feel free to keep bumping thread so that everyone can learn how to make explosives, guns, and poison gas

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>>34825193
>Banning everything except 1/2 inch pen blades isn't infringing on your second amendment rights, only if we banned your cuck weapon that's completely ineffective for fighting would it be breaking the constitution

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>>34824333
If modern small arms (handguns, rifles) were around then, it would have been just as relevant to allow citizens to bare arms. A militia and/or right to bear arms includes the capability to effectively fight back. Imagine if Brits were invading and the farmers had no rifles because the ones the Brits were using were 'too powerful'

>>34825241
>>34825231

Sorry guys. It's not. You can have your right to bear arms and not be able to have every gun.

>>34825254
Show me in the constitution where it says "but you can't have THESE arms"

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>>34825249

>>34824649
KYS, fgt.

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>>34825254
well i guess i just have to keep supporting the NRA so that you don't get your way :^)

>>34825193
Infringe
act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on

Open a book you stupid fuck.

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>>34825291

>>34824333
>>34824358
they would have written it the exact same way, because they would have just finished putting these weapons to good use in fighting a war for liberty

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>>34825287
THE GRAND DADDY OF BOOM GUIDES

ANARCHIST COOKBOOK FAGGOTS NEED NOT APPLY
http://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/improvised-munitions-handbook.pdf

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>>34825335
Chapter 5

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luty machine gun pdf
http://thehomegunsmith.com/pdf/9mmPistol.pdf

>>34824333
"If they move they are Loyalists, if they stand still they are well disciplined Loyalists"

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>>34825374

>>34824333
nope because the main premise behind the amendment was to protect civilians from those who could oppress them by leaving them the means to arm themselves with weapons that are just as capable as the oppressor's. In other words the only way we should still only have muskets is if our oppressors only had muskets.

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>>34825384
well i was trying to prove a point but since you're intent on cluttering the thread, no one gets to see this

>>34824527
"well regulated" actually cant be split. That termed was used to mean "in good working order" in the 1700s

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>>34825384

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>>34824672
I use this counter argument all the time anon, really rustles their jimmies

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>>34825416

>>34825414
Post the .pdf of that if you have it. Upload it on uguu.se or some other quick filehost.

>>34824333
Please look up actual rate of fire and actual realistic reload times.
If you think someone can mag dump a semi-automatic with a 60round mag you're more retarded than normal.

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>>34825068
what happens with the "don't do it" ones?

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>>34824876
>He doesn't demonstrate flawless grammar when arguing with a mouth breathing autist on a Burmese sock trading forum

>this makes me the intellectual superior

OP take a deep breath this level of stress can't be healthy

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>>34825254
According to you and what army?

>inb4 "common sense" strawman reply or irrational waving of the bloody tee-shirt

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>>34825488

>>34824358
Calls for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms from State Ratification Conventions

New Hampshire: Twelfth[:] Congress shall never disarm any Citizen unless such as are or have been in Actual Rebellion.

Virginia: . . . Seventeenth, That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated Militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State. That standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the Community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the Civil power.

New York: . . . That the People have a right to keep and bear Arms; that a well regulated Militia, including the body of the People capable of bearing Arms, is the proper, natural and safe defence of a free State; That the Militia should not be subject to Martial Law except in time of War, Rebellion or Insurrection. That Standing Armies in time of Peace are dangerous to Liberty, and ought not to be kept up, except in Cases of necessity; and that at all times, the Military should be under strict Subordination to the civil Power.

North Carolina: Almost identical to Virginia demand, but with "the body of the people, trained to arms" instead of "the body of the people trained to arms."

Rhode Island: Almost identical to Virginia demand, but with "the body of the people capable of bearing arms" instead of "the body of the people trained to arms," and with a "militia shall not be subject to martial law" proviso as in New York.

http://www2.law.ucla.edu/volokh/2amteach/SOURCES.HTM#TOC2

I love you americans.
I would kill to have something like the second amendment in germany.
The only excuse we have is hunting and sport shooting.
Please invade us, so we can have our rights back.

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>>34825447
something dangerous and probably not particularly useful since the products of other potentially hazardous combos are named

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>>34824649
>where anyone can wage a one-man war against a room full of school children

Like those gooks in China that sneak into elementary schools with knives and start stabbing kids? Because last two I remember were 15 kids and two or three teachers injured, and 23 kids and two or three teachers injured. Can't remember how many died. Furthermore, anyone can make a bomb with a quick trip to a hardware store.

Anyone have that meme with the liberal asking how many more children need to die until we admit we have a gun problem with a /k/ommando descending from the heavens with a piece of paper reading "All of them"? I had to reinstall my OS and lost all my shit.

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>>34825521

>>34825511
You were invaded 70 years ago, and that's why you don't have something like the second amendment in germany. Wilhelm was a master of realpolitik, why don't you try to put yourself in his shoes and ask if you would let an allied country not depend on you for defense.

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>>34825534

>>34825549
Nah with invading I mean having a boogeyman to get the people bear arms again

>>34825561
That boogeyman is your own government, and it a much worse and very real monster that lives in your closet, cell phone service, and any wireless device you may own that connects to the internet or sends out radio waves.

>>34825577
I know, but with starting off to saying that they both suck each other off?

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>>34824333

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remember that leftism is a religion that attracts the violent and mentally ill

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>>34824333